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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

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With me are Laura Hughes of the Daily Telegraph

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Thank you both for coming, we are paying you as much as I male

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reviewers, don't fret. Controversial but you have to laugh at don't you?

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The Telegraph reports on calls by the Transport Secretary to ditch

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first class compartments on crowded commuter trains.

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And it has a new photo of Prince George - released

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The Guardian says Interpol has circulated a list

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of Islamic State fighters it believes could be trained to carry

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It also features on its front page Lady Hale, the new president

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The weekend edition of the FT reports on a probe

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into pension transfers after concern that some people cashing

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in their final salary pensions may be getting unsuitable advice.

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The Times claims hard-left Labour supporters

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are plotting to oust Tom Watson as the party's deputy leader -

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and replace him with the Shadow Foreign Secretary Emily

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On its front page, The Daily Mail reports that

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Labour MPs are urging women to boycott Boots over

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its refusal to cut the cost of the morning-after pill.

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of an illegal immigrant who walked free from court after he burst

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into a church and threatened to kill English people.

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at the BBC have been promised better wages to stay quiet

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And the Sun has news that Pudsey the dancing dog -

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made famous on Britain's Got Talent - has died.

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Let's begin, shall we? What a week. Let's begin with the Telegraph. "

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The line for first class. This is Chris Grayling doing a wide-ranging

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interview, yet this is the headline that has come out. This is because

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the Telegraph have had a long campaign against this ridiculous

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system we have where we are packed like sardines in trains, hot and

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sweaty desperate rank to get to work and you can see in the distance this

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empty first-class carriage which really we don't have a need for.

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Chris Grayling has done this interview with our political editor

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and said he understands the pain of commuters as a commuter himself, he

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comes into work every morning on the train. He has vowed to crack down on

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this system so we will be seeing less first-class carriages. Some of

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the trains like travelling, they are suspended. It's as first-class but

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anyone can sit in here. What if you have bought a first-class ticket,

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you'd be pretty miffed? I always wonder who these people are hereby

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first-class tickets on short commuter routes. -- these people who

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buy first-class tickets. Loads of people go and sit in first

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class anyway, even if they don't have a ticket. It's a good idea. Not

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me ever, of course. But I think it is a fairly common practice, so

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getting rid of them is the right thing to do. What else has come out

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of this wide ranging interview do we know? Drones, the crackdown on

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drones in airports he said. Near airports. That's a good idea, isn't

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it? Lots of stories of chaos at airports as drones fly across the

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sky. It's a problem. Actually across London, I think it is illegal to fly

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drones over London but we have seen that happen recently. There have

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been more reports of drones recently. I can't imagine anything

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more terrifying if you're an airline pilot then suddenly seeing a drone

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coming towards you. Seems like something that should not happen. It

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shouldn't. That's all we can say. Does not feel like we have a huge

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amount of detail, have we? He has also said Theresa May will stay

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until 2020. Now we are getting somewhere! Given that obviously this

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week has seen lots of different rumours, and cabinet members

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briefing against each other over the weekend, which has been seen as

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people jostling for power. Suggesting she is not weak enough...

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Too weak, not strong enough! LAUGHTER Strong and stable. Let's

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move The Times. Plot to oust Labour number two, Corbyn supporters target

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Watson for removal. Who are these hard left elements, do we even know?

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The Times story doesn't necessarily make it clear who they are but it is

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fair to say that among some of Jeremy Corbyn's perhaps more

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hard-core fan base, Tom Watson is not popular. He was one of the

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people who first tried to get Jeremy Corbyn to stand down last summer. He

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then went public about his doubts about Corbyn's leadership throughout

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the whole of the last year. He has made it clear he does not think that

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Corbyn would lead the party to an election victory necessarily. He has

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made himself unpopular in that regard. And he was right. Yes, but I

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think Watson himself would admit that Corbyn did better than he

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expected him to. Whether there's a plot to replace, Tom Watson himself

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has said since the election result that he... You know, Jeremy Corbyn

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has earned the right as the leader and he will give him his backing.

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And that he will not block Corbyn even making any sort of party

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reforms that he wants to make that might give the left wing of the

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party more power. I don't understand, perhaps people don't

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seem to be happy with that. This article does not have lots of

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sources quoted at all, does it? Does that lead you to discover who was

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making these brats? I think it raises interesting questions -- who

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was making these threats? Interesting questions about

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Thornbury. It does not seem like there any direct plans, any motions

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tabled to be voted on at the party 's conference later this year, which

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could introduce some of these changes but probably would not pass

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anyway. The other angle to this is that there are talks of this

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McDonald clause, which would reduce the number of MPs that you need to

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nominate you if you want to run for the leadership. Again, even if I was

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to happen, which it might, the idea behind it is that if they do

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introduce these changes, if the Corbyn wing of the party wanted

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another Corbyn -esque leader, then it would be easy for them to do

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that, but still again, the candidates that are more moderate

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wing of the party would want to see. They will still get on the ballot

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and do well if that is the general mood of the party. But it hasn't

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happened yet. However, sources close to Emily Thornbury have told the BBC

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that if there is any suggestion Emily Thornbury is planning some

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challenge for the deputy leadership or would consider doing so, this is

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categorically untrue. Her view is that the leader leadership -- Labour

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leadership team needs to remain united behind that team, as it was

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during the election. That is sources close to Emily Thornbury. Things can

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change but that is it for now. Let's move on. To the Financial Times.

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Well. Things have been very interesting in the White House

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today, because Sean Spicer has stepped down from the West wing

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press podium, he is the much lampooned press secretary, Sean

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Spicer. He has now resigned because someone has been parachuted in above

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him as director of communications, and on with a rather marvellous

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name, Anthony Scaramucci, can he do the fandango asked Steve Humphries

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on twitter? So, Melissa McCarthy is going to be out of job on Saturday

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Night Live with no one to impersonate. It seems to have taken

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people out of surprise this one. If anything, that's the greatest

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tragedy of it. The Melissa McCarthy routine presumably not up for much

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longer, doing that amazing parity. Sean Spicer seemed too... I mean,

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everybody presents a boss suddenly been parachuted about them and

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perhaps they thought that job may be encompassed in a job title. He made

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it clear privately he did not want to see Anthony Scaramucci given this

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job as director of communications in the White House. Apparently as well,

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Trump's strategic advisers, to Steve Berriman, also did not want to see

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it happen. But Scaramucci was a choice proposed by Ivanka Trump and

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her husband Jared Kushner. I think it shows there are two camps are

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emerging in the White House. One of those is clearly having more

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influence than the other. I think that is the wider picture here. What

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that means for the presidency. And to those... How those allegiances

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will change, and who will be the casualties of it? Trouble in

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paradise. Trump has only been in power for six months. Because Sean

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Spicer was such an internationally known figure, I can't really

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remember the names of Obama's... Because these won't broadcast until

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recently, he became disordered caricature. For him to go is another

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blow to Trump who is going to a bit of difficulty at the moment. Had

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some legislative defeats, obviously there is this probe into his

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campaign 's links with Russia. It's not great for him to have another...

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How much do you and the Sarah Huckabee sounders? It's not an easy

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job, is it? One of the things she has two avoid which Sean Spicer most

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definitely did not avoid is when the spokesman becomes the story, that is

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bad news. And Sean Spicer became the story on multiple occasions. He got

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quite cross, didn't he? But Anthony Scaramucci, very polished, very

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smooth operator. Let's look at the mail. This is not the kind of story

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we would normally expect. It's almost as if the Guardian and the

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mail have swapped editors for the night, isn't it? Labour inputs

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boycott Rory, women urged to snub the chemist because it is refusing

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on principle to cut the price of the morning after pill. The quote from

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Boots is astonishing. I could not really believe it when he said...

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They keep the charge of ?28 to avoid incentivising inappropriate use. I

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mean... I don't know what an appropriate use of the morning after

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pill is. But they seem to think there is such a use for it. I would

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be interested to see how they might define that inappropriate use. It

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has been halved and other shops? Strange, almost like they have been

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lobbied by anti-abortion campaigners is what it suggests. Or, it's been

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used as an excuse to make more profit. The generic pill in France

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is like ?5 50? Yeah, and Tesco and Superdrug have half that price after

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this campaign, but Tesco are not budging. Lots of Labour MPs coming

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out today saying it's outrageous. Women and girls should boycott the

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shop. It's Boots that are not budging, isn't it, and Tesco and

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Superdrug who have agreed. Vote with your feet, women are advised by

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Stella Creasy MP. Onto the Guardian for a couple of stories. Europe

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given a list of potential suicide killers. This is Isis fighters who,

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as the caliphate begins to, or continues to collapse, they could be

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heading to Europe. They have not yet though. There is no suggestion that

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this list of people who have entered Europe, but this is a people who

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Interpol are officially worried about and want to distribute to

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states in Europe, to say, these people are on a watchlist. These are

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people believe our all have been trained to stage attacks in the

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West. We do not know they are heading to Britain, we do not know

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what they are heading or even if they have come on their way. But

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clearly that is something the authorities are sufficiently

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concerned about to want to warn the governments. The fact they can

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travel over here, a large number of them, they must know who they are.

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They have got quite an accurate figure. It says suspect stains have

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been collected, the date Isis recruited them, the likely address,

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the mosque they pray out, their mother 's name and photographs. This

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whole profile has been created so they will basically be flagged if

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they are seen entering any country, I presume. It's a fairly detailed

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database they have compiled on these people. One would hope that would

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make it easier for law enforcement or police or intelligence agencies

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to track their movements. People have slipped through the net before

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and that is what is quite frightening about it. Interesting,

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yesterday on the last day of Parliament the Cabinet Office

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slipped out this announcement that they were going to review Britain's

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security capabilities. There was a defence review in 2015 but they had

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just realised that the threats we are facing have increased at a rate

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we could not predict. We do not necessarily have the resources to

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deal with threats from terrorism and cyber attacks and this is a classic

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example of how all this work is being done behind the scenes in all

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this technology used to find these people, track and monitor them and

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get all this information. If you can't stop them when they get it,

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it's gone to waste in a way, hasn't it? I always wonder about the danger

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some people have put themselves in to gather this sorts of information,

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the risks to themselves. What a lot of intelligence experts will say

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about this if you were to try to take any optimistic view on a story

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like this, is that the reasons is happening is because the West is

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winning the fight in the Middle East, but Isis is being squeezed,

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they are in a corner in and Iraq. That occur in Syria and Iraq. This

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is the last resort to start launching attacks in the West. It

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shows we are succeeding in the Middle East. As long as they don't

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get here. Stay with the Guardian... A picture story. First woman to lead

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the highest court in the land. The Supreme Court, who is this? She is

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wonderful. We were saying earlier. She does not take... Takes no

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prisoners. This is Baroness Hale of Richmond. Barbara Hale, going to be

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sworn in in October. This in a week where discrimination has been in the

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news. Very close to home. It's very heartening to see. The first woman.

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It's extraordinary that we have so many, female head of state, we have

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the Queen, without necessarily have a choice in that but the female

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Prime Minister, we have the female First Minister, female head of the

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Met police and now female president of the Supreme Court. And other

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female party leaders as well. That is something that in a week where we

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have not perhaps had the most encouraging headlines. About

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winning, in work, and the challenges that women face. It is encouraging

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to see this. Is she getting the same as her predecessor? She of all

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people will be fairly well placed. Let's hope so. She probably knows

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one or two lawyers who can help her...

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Finally, back to The Times. Let me find it. Sorry, I'm very badly

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organised tonight. There we go. Mary Poppins. Corr blimey, Dick Van Dyke

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with Julie Andrews on the cover. He has now apologised for his atrocious

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cockney accent when he played Bert in the musical in 1964. His accent

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is almost as famous as the film and the songs, isn't it? As a child, I

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didn't notice. I didn't either, I grew up in Yorkshire and I didn't

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really know what cockney accent sounded like either! For me, I don't

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remember thinking it was a bad thing. Clearly you watch it as an

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adult, you think, that is cringeworthy. Apparently he was

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given some bad advice from the lead actor in Northumbria six. David

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Tomlinson who also played the father in Mary Poppins advised it van Dijk

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on what a complex and should sound like. -- the lead actor in bed knobs

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and broomsticks. He went back to Tomlinson and said, what were you

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thinking? And Tomlinson, with his silver spoon mouth, said I only told

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you what I thought cockney sounded like. I did not say I had ever met a

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cockney. Check the person you're taking advice from? A nice if true.

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And that is the papers for tonight. Don't forget you can see the front

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pages of the papers online It's all there for you -

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seven days a week at bbc dot co uk forward slash papers -

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and if you miss the programme any evening you can watch it

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later on BBC iPlayer. Thank you Laura and

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Jessica - Goodbye. Friday brought us a day of mixed

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fortunes in terms of the weather. It's been very wet and windy in the

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West is this band of rain tracked its way slowly east. You can see

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that swirl of cloud associated with an area of low pressure, further

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east it was clear

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