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We'll be taking a look at tomorrow mornings papers in a moment -


The BBC's Director General, Lord Hall says he'll go further


He was responding to a letter by high-profile female personalities


who have called on the corporation to "act now".


A 20-year-old man has died, after being apprehended by a police


He's been been named by his family as Rashan Jermaine Charles.


Prince William and Prince Harry have spoken candidly


about their relationship with their mother, Princess Diana,


in a documentary marking the twentieth anniversary


Police in the US state of Texas say the number of deaths in the human


smuggling incident has risen to nine.


20 others are thought to be in a critical condition.


On Meet The Author this week, my guest is one of the most popular


crime writers, the rather aptly named Karin Slaughter, to talk about


her latest book, The Good Author. Dump -- the good daughter.


Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be


With me are the Author and Broadcaster, Natalie Haynes


and Rob Merrick, Deputy political editor at The Independent.


Let's get straight on. Rob, perhaps you would start us off. Daily


Telegraph front page, The Telegraph says NHS bosses


have ordered a review , after warnings that plans to cut


down on A numbers as we know, A departments are in


crisis. There is a plan, they are being asked to introduce front door


streaming. It will convert them into different arms of the NHS. There has


been a case in Bristol, a man who was turned away from A under this


scheme and tragically died soon afterwards. This story says they are


being it would visibly lead to more people


being treated in A and it shows how difficult it is for the


government to tackle these problems without causing unintended


consequences. Natalie, it is one terrible tragic case, but it seems a


bit strange that the whole system has been thrown into reverse on the


basis of that. There must be a bit more to it, would have thought? You


would think so, we're told so many times that A departments are


clogged, when people turning up when they shouldn't have, brutally,


either because they have committed an incredibly minor injury to


themselves because they should have gone to the GP and either don't have


a GP or the GP wasn't open at that or whatever. Because they are drunk.


It turns out if somebody turns up to an AMD department with chest pains,


as could happen, they could be turned away without having his blood


pressure checked. If you are turning away people, I would have thought


chest pains but pretty much the go to for A I am obviously in no way


in a place to qualify that. The point is it was a GP, because they


call it the triage, I think on the way you see a nurse any way to start


with, very often, so there is also a filter, this sounds like an even


more Draconian one. Seems like this streaming system will be in place


before the review has fully taken place, so there will be six months


worth of it having happened in theory before the time the review


comes back. Slightly worrying, but is a tragic case but on the other


hand it is only one case. It is hard to believe they will end streaming


altogether. As you say, it is perhaps just one terrible example.


There must surely be some people who can so obviously be turned away from


three macro without causing disorder problem. Things presumably they want


people to stop turning up is with the winter vomiting virus, they are


incredibly contagious, so the last thing you want to do is to bring


them in the hospital is full of ill people. Drink some water, stay in


bed. Let's quickly go onto the front page of the Telegraph, still.


Cabinet split over imports of American chlorine chicken. That hast


to rank as one of the most odd headlines. I wonder whether they got


to the point where it had to arm wrestle... We think overall they


spent very little time talking about it but they should. Quite an


important printable behind all this. Absolutely, but as we know Liam Fox


is in the US and about to try and start a bit of trade talk. Here's


the trade Secretary, yes. He is hoping to persuade everyone and


presumably the rest of his Cabinet (!) That what would be a great thing


is if we have American meat products, this is not good for me, I


had not eaten meat for 30 years, but I am sure it matters to many more of


you. That would include chlorine washed chicken, which sounds


revolting to me, but to be honest the chicken sounds worse than


MacLaurin, I quite like swimming. Hormone -- sounds worse than the


chlorine. But actually it is a Brexit story, isn't it? Yes, if we


are not going to trade with Europe, we have to trade more with America,


and there is a lot more of them and they have a lot more money than us.


The inevitable but, in this case Michael Gove. Ceremony sentences


begin like that! Indeed, and Angela Ballard some, -- Andrea Leadsom, we


must keep the standards up even though not governed by the EU. They


are on other side of the great chlorine soaked debate. Debate or


schism? That is all I am saying. They are all arch supporters of


Brexit. On the issue of the chicken and whether it will be allowed in


this country, but what is new about it is the suggestion that Liam Fox


would favour its import, and arrange to accept it. He is not quoted in


the story, obviously just a short teaser, the story on the front page.


If that is true, it would be nice to see when Liam Fox is in America


tomorrow he could be interviewed on the subject when I found out. You


remember when John Gummer was feeding beefburger to his daughter


back in the 1990s, mad cow disease, whether Liam Fox would be asked if


he would be happy for his own family to eat chlorine soaked chicken. OK,


in the metro, sorry, before we do that, let's go to the eye. -- the


Iyer. Slightly alarming, there has been


breaches of computer systems of public bodies, hospitals, councils,


museums, watchdogs have been breached over the last three years,


since May 20 14. 424 successful attacks. We are not sure how many


unsuccessful, mostly using ransomware, local authorities and


other public bodies. The big NHS attack a couple of months ago. But


this sounds deadly, much more serious and widespread. It is


clearly a large and. It is one of those stories, I know cybercrime is


really important, but my eyes tend to glaze over when I read it. When


your credit card gets cloned... I know. There are a couple of


interesting details in the story that struck me, one says there were


nine health trust and several councils who confirmed they had been


breached but had not reported it. You wonder whether they are too busy


trying to protect their own repetition rather than being honest


about the problem they have, which seemed alarming. They said one NHS


Trust had been told by police that an attacker had been found to be


outside the European Union, and therefore no further action could be


taken. I did not understand that at all. There seem to be examples where


even when a problem has been identified, it even wasn't being


admitted to or wasn't being taken. They tend to be places you can't get


at, Russia and China. Perhaps you could try. OK, the metro, I started


to talk about it, let's get to that. Rob coming you can have a go here.


This is Mr Corbyn being taxed by my colleague Andrew Marr on the matter


of student debts. We never said we were going to write them off. Ever


since the election, it has been the story of Theresa May carrying out


U-turn after you turn, this is the press piling in on Jeremy Corbyn


instead. When Mr Corbyn says we didn't say we would write off


student debts, he is absolutely right and he is clearly did not say


that, but unfortunately for him, he uttered the phrase we will deal with


it, at least try to ameliorate the problem in some way, now he is


running back from that. He also said he didn't realise when he said he


would deal with it that it would be a ?100 billion bill for wiping out


existing student debt, which clearly nobody thinks they can afford to


pay. It is a big embarrassment for Jeremy Corbyn but to be honest,


Jeremy Corbyn is not the Prime Minister, there was no likelihood of


him doing that in the near future. If I was a student, or a graduate


with a debt, what would be far more concerned about is in October the


level of interest on that student debt is going to soar to 6.1%, even


when interest rates are on the floor under legislation the government put


through, and that to be honest is a much bigger issue when it comes to


the problem of student debt, rather than what Jeremy Corbyn did or did


not say during the election campaign. But isn't the point really


Natalie that Jeremy Corbyn, had they had a much better successful


campaign, said an awful things about what they would do but the actual


total bill would be absolutely enormous. It is a bit strange she


can say I didn't know about the figures. Straying into Diane


territory. One could legitimately argue that the actual total bill


whatever happens will be enormous, not least because the filthy left


wing rag which is the Financial Times suggested that about 70% of


students won't ever pay off their debt, which is an enormous


percentage of ?100 billion. Not writing off all of their debt, but


even so, a large quantity of this debt will never be paid back,


because it is only levied once people and a certain amount and many


people simply don't earn that much and may never. So all you are really


giving people is a sort of horrendous stress Millstone to live


with with no expectation really of the payment coming back. If you are


the person who loans money to people and have been told that roughly


seven upset of those people won't pay back and you haven't taken that


into account in your figures, then you are an idiot, and I am sure the


people running the student loans company are not idiots, so they are


expecting a lot of money to be defaulted on, so why do you have to


make 70 people's lives miserable before that money doesn't get paid


back one way or another? I'm not sure there is a good reason. Just


coming back to what Mr Corbyn was saying about it, the election


campaign was very much saying don't worry, students, there will be no


more student loans in the future. That seemed an absolute key part of


the whole thing. Can a senior Labour politician, or whichever politician,


say all these things and then come roaring back again? We will deal


with it is a relatively fluid term, it could mean we will cut fees for


the next generation, they will be much lower. Student debt used to be


paid, in 2002 it was pretty much all paid off within something like nine


years of graduation. We will deal with it is an extremely protean


phrase that can be read in a bunch of ways. I think he could


legitimately argue it is not necessarily his fault. It was not in


the manifesto either, it was a phrase in an interview. There is


embarrassment, but on the scale of great U-turns, not quite. Very


quickly, to the Daily Mail. You can't get away from it, BBC pay.


They have a picture of my colleague Emily Maitlis, who apparently earns


less than ?150,000 a year, calling on male TV stars to publicly back


the pay gap fight. We can't do it right now, we are on the news, so


you are obliged to be entirely impartial but of course I am not


surprised. She is absolutely right to suggest people need to be


supporting her. It is of course terrific that her male colleagues


have allowed her female colleagues 48 hours, 78 hours or so to have all


the headlines, but now I think it is time for you to step up and join in


and say, yes, it is lastly unfair that female colleagues are being


paid less than we offer doing the same sorts of jobs and it is also


unfair that women are not going to get those best paid jobs because


they are all taken up by perfectly delightful and equally competent


men. I see the South American correspondent with Davis, I fully


backed calls for senior debuts to be pay the same as male counterparts.


Quite a thing building up, but the point building up I suppose is that


the director-general says he will act fast on this, and do something


about this. How fast can it be, and what about the overall cost of the


public purse in the end, if you have to raise a lot of people's salaries?


I think he said he would act by 2020, and clearly the women who


signed the open letter believe that is probably not achievable, not very


far away, and they doubt that. Of course you don't have too raise the


salaries of the women, you could cut the salaries of the men. Maybe they


will have a word with John Humphrys etc. Wie will take some of the


extremely high-profile men who present art strands, and let some


less high profile women doing it, just suggesting it, I am available!


The last one, ladies dancing, Lords are leaping, the back of the


Telegraph front page, women cricketers, a very significant


victory. Are you a cricket fan? I am a big one. I missed the match, as I


was travelling in. That had it all, a full house at Lord's, which I'm


not sure everyone was necessarily expecting at the start of the


tournament. I was listening on radio five live, it was very exciting. I


was walking past Lord's, and it was the Wimbledon grown. Did someone


just dropped a thing. It sounded like everyone was having an absolute


wail at the time from the outside. For once, a story about women doing


extremely well and everyone is truly happy. Hole it sounds like the day


that women's cricket arrived as a major sporting event in this


country. Able never be the same again. That is it for the papers


this hour. Thank you Natalie and Rob ,


you'll both be back at half 11 for another look at the stories


making the news tomorrow. My guest today is one of the world's


most popular crime writers,


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