30/07/2017 The Papers

Hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

With me are the entertainment writer Caroline Frost,

and the parliamentary journalist Tony Grew.

Tomorrow's front pages, starting with...

This is the lead in the Times. It is the insistence by the Chancellor,

Philip Hammond, that Britain won't be turned into a tax haven after

Brexit. The FT reports that Japan's largest and has chosen Amsterdam for

its banking headquarters as a result of uncertainty over Brexit. The top

story in the Metro is the decision by President Putin to expel 755 US

diplomats from Russia in what it calls a new Cold War. The Express

claims that workers are cashing in their hard earned pension pots early

and being overtaxed. The Daily Mail says British tourists are being

charged hundreds of pounds for scratches and dents on higher cause.

This front page criticises Channel 4 for broadcasting the Diana tapes --

on higher cause. The times and more Brexit headlines. This time from

Philip Hammond, saying that we won't be a tax haven after Brexit,

Caroline. Yes, there has been lots of talk about his position in recent

days. However, it seems to be that his is now the loudest voice when it

comes to talking about where we are currently with Brexit. Sometimes it

is different to other Cabinet members as well. Yes, most

interestingly for journalists like Tony here. The key phrase is that he

will wish the UK to remain recognisably European following

Brexit. By which he is talking about not slashing taxes, not changing

regulations dramatically. He doesn't want the UK to turn into a sort of

Singapore style on wave, by which it is somehow going to be completing

with other countries for sort of deals against Europe and the like --

it is going to be competing. This has not gone down well with

everybody. Tony, it's confusing for our viewers when you have these

talks going on in Brussels and different messages are coming out of

Downing Street, often from cabinet members, that don't seem to be in

line with what is being talked about in Brussels right now. This is just

another example of the chaos of the Government. There is a fantastic

line here. Philip Hammond gave an interview to a French newspaper

saying that often he hears it said that the UK is going to participate

in unfair competition. But he said it in January to a German newspaper!

What's going on at the moment is that there are two camps. The Prime

Minister is away at the minute, C have the Chancellor and the Home

Secretary, Amber Rudd, they want a soft Brexit. Then you have Liam Fox

and Boris Johnson, they want a hard Brexit. Theresa May's authority

isn't as hard as it was. That is so sweet of you to describe the Prime

Minister is having authority, because she doesn't have any! She

can't sack anyone would do anything. But she is the Prime Minister. She

is out of the country and she has left Philip Hammond nominally in

charge. There are various useless trade deals that Liam Fox does and

Boris Johnson, they try and keep out of the country as much as possible

for this reason. The Chancellor and the Home Secretary is not in it to

announce soft Brexit deals, infuriating the right of their own

party -- sneaked in. Is it chaos or is it that we just don't know things

and different opinions are coming out at different times? Thing is

most worrying is that the noises we are getting from Brussels, we don't

know what we want, tell us what we want. We don't appear to know what

we want because the Government is speaking in two different ways about

what they want. Hammond is saying we are going to be a European country.

On the other hand, Liam Fox was running around saying, no, American

style food standards, we are perfectly happy to accept

chlorinated chicken. That's not a European approach to animal welfare.

We don't know what we want. For any non-politico looking at this, nobody

is happy. The people who voted for Brexit are saying, that doesn't look

like Brexit, it looks like remaining by any other name. The remainders

are saying, it still a Brexit. Neither side will come out of this,

I can't think of one single person who thinks, that's the result I was

after. That takes us nicely to the Daily Telegraph. Johnson and Fox are

out of the loop on EU migrants. This is the talk about what happens when

it comes to freedom of movement post-Brexit. Again, lots of

different messages coming from different cabinet ministers. They'll

even admitting it, they are playing it like a chess board, if that has

been said, I'm not part of it. Nobody is being vocally disloyal.

Certainly nobody is denouncing Theresa May in her absence but they

are distancing themselves, should the positions change in a week's

time, they say, that doesn't mean I disagree. Somebody here, Doctor Fox,

his turn to say, I'm not part of this, it's not what I am for. But

Amber Rudd and Philip Hammond snuck in with this similarly to the

regulations on the tax, the single movement, the free movement, will be

very much the same, the fact of remaining. Tony, Philip Hammond

saying something very different to Liam Fox. Yes, absolutely. Amber

Rudd last week effectively saying we are going to broadly look at what

happens with migration. This is a reality -based approach is opposed

to a fantasy -based approach. When you say things like that, you are

going to worry the majority of people who voted for Brexit. All I'm

saying is that we're going to make a decision soon. This is the maximum

point of danger. Do we have a three-year transitional arrangement

to stop us falling off the hard cliff, or do we go with the

Government who seem to think that everything is fine and we don't need

to address the issues? Businesses have been saying to the Government,

for example, agriculture, we need hundreds of thousands of seasonal

workers to pick vegetables and fruit out of the ground. If we don't have

them, we won't be able to pick fruit and vegetables. That's Brexit, there

is no freedom of movement. This is the point, Brexit isn't a concept

that is fixed in stone. We have dozens of options available to us if

we can do go shoot. That is not what people voted for, Tony -- if we

negotiate. Then we are going to come to a point where the Government's is

going to make a decision about whether it is going to go with what

people perceive to be the problem is or whether they are going to be

honest with the electorate and say, we understand your anger and your

vote but we are not going to harm the economy in a catastrophic way

because you are slightly obsessed about immigration. You might not

want what you thought you wanted! Nobody is going to end up about what

they wanted, that's the whole point. You're going to end up in a

situation where nobody is happy, nobody is going to get what they

want, but the Government is trying to balance these different

pressures. Which they always have done, but Brexit has brought it into

hard focus, the layman steps back in amazement. You mean if we have fruit

and vegetable pickers we may not have many nurses. These are abstract

concepts, suddenly we are being told effectively we are going to have to

make those choices. You can see the reality of another referendum being

called than an Brexit, can't you? People who voted for Brexit that

didn't want immigration, didn't want the of movement, are not going to

get it. It's like playing with mercury. People are tempting to say,

52% of the population who voted to leave the EU for 17 million

different reasons. We can't turn around and say it was about

immigration, trade, this and that... Are going to be a lot of very

unhappy people at the next general election. There are also people who

will come round to the reality of the fact that if we don't want to

catastrophically harm the economy, we at least need to make a

transitional deal. Let's move on. We'll see what happens. Not

everybody thinks like you. We'll move on to the Financial Times. Oh,

still an Brexit! Who set up this paper review! Of you two did!

Japan's biggest bank plant a hub in Amsterdam to cope with the

disruption of Brexit. This is an example of what we've been talking

about. This huge banks, hugely influential in the eastern part of

the world, that we obviously don't put our eyeballs on it but it

doesn't mean it doesn't affect us. They have said that even ahead of

Brexit they are looking around and moving a significant number of

workers into a European hub, in that case it is Amsterdam. They will be

the first of many who will be looking. Because it's going to be

hard to find property, spaces, personal. It's like anything, once

the cards fall down it is going to be Imada free from. These people

have jumped on the head and said, we're going to do this at our pace.

They are going to get the lay of the land. It will diminish confidence in

the remaining people. The case for staying in the City of London and

any other UK hubs will significantly weaken as a result. Shall we have a

look at the Metro at some other stories. But in the boot in. New

Cold War as Kremlin kicks diplomats out of Russia. Tony, some people

will read that headline and say, hand on a minute, I thought

President Putin and Donald Trump were being friendly and starting a

new relationship, a new era. What's happened? The president isn't a

tyrant yet, so the US Congress has overwhelmingly passed new sanctions

that make it really difficult for the president dry and, you know,

reduce the amount of sanctions that are already against Russia. It is a

big blow for Donald Trump. The vote was over whelming be passed in the

House and Senate and his spokesperson indicated he would sign

the bill. It is a blow for Donald Trump. The law that I just referred

to that the president may or may not sign doesn't just apply to Russia,

it also applies to North Korea and Iran. The president, all this

controversy about his links with Russia, it will be difficult for him

to block this law. Pre-empting his signing, but a mere Putin has

retaliated already by expelling back to the Cold War 755 US diplomats. It

leaves me to ask exactly how many diplomats the US has in Russia,

that's quite a lot! A small fraction?! Again, President Trump

couldn't be seen to be being too friendly with Russia. Absolutely. He

is caught between a rock and a hard, cold place in this case. Nothing he

could do. He's been accused pre-election of cosying up to the

Russians. Now he couldn't do anything about this. All this does

is prove there is a little bit of a chocolate teapot in the White House

when it comes to this committee is not having a very good week anyway.

He hoped this will have gone under the radar, and clearly it hasn't. I

wonder what that does for their plans to tackle cyber crime together

as well stop you love all of those problems! But he has got no

diplomats left! We saw this with him pleading that he was going to ban

transgender people from the military last week. Tweets are not commands.

His staff do not change orders through tweets. If you want to

change policy, you go through the chain of command. He said he had

spoken to US military commanders about it. They don't appear to have

any idea he did speak to them. They did make it clear that tweets are

not part of the chain of command. He wants to have a cyber relationship

with President Putin but he is disgusted with the people he meets

to discuss it with. This is one thing that will undo him in the end,

he doesn't follow the chain of command. That turn our attention to

the past, really. Passchendaele, although many people save up the

past hopefully create a better future as well. -- say that the

past. The Independent always do it differently and really capture it.

It is poppies with messages from members of the public in the UK,

actually. Actually on the poppies, near the First World War battle

ground. Caroline, you said earlier that you feel that these

commemorations of the First World War and Second World War battles

seem to become a bigger deal recently. I think they have. It is a

beautiful image, it completely captures it, lovely, understated and

lacking in people. I mean, mercifully selfie free. That's

something that I think these occasions do merit a red dignity

from onlookers. Certainly the way they are presented from the media.

We had this chat in the newsroom before we came on. As I grew up, I

thought the past was another country, unless you had somebody in

your family who bought, a grandfather who is stories you

listen to. Now it is one of social media and video messaging, we have

become very sophisticated at making these messages relevant and fresh to

us. Certainly when you do get the benefit of Hollywood films being

made, big budget retellings, and they do bring it home. Something

like the film Dunkirk telling the story of the evacuation to a whole

new audience for whom these stories will have a fresh resonance that I

don't think has come along before. It is bittersweet. It is the

Centenary as well. The commemorations are a lot bigger than

usual. Tony and I were discussing as well before we came on air that we

are meant to learn the lessons of war, and here we are 100 years on

still very much at war in various parts of the world. You know, you

just think on the idea that the First World War was the war to end

all wars. You know, the Second World War came along... Actually, having

said that, the amount of conflict in the world is at the lowest I think

it's ever been. Ironically, we live in a much more peaceful world. But

it obviously doesn't feel like that. The Daily Telegraph featuring one of

the many pictures you will see tomorrow morning, the Duke and

Duchess of Cambridge attending those Centenary commemorations. Again,

Caroline, it's these young royals that are so might do attract more

young people to take part or at least take notice of these, ratios.

Certainly. In this generation, with Prince William and Prince Harry, you

do have two members of forces, they followed in the family tradition.

Say what we will about the rules, whether they get too much tension,

certainly these brothers have come forward talking about mental health

recently. Some say they have over egged that pudding, but you can't

doubt there is inserted in turning up to these events and honouring the

dead. This week will be interesting for them. Whatever they do, they be

overshadowed by the looming 20-year legacy of their late mother.

Caroline Antoni, many thanks. We will do it again in about an hour's

time. -- Caroline and Tony. There is more at 11:30pm.

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