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Hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

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With me are the entertainment writer Caroline Frost,

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and the parliamentary journalist Tony Grew.

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Tomorrow's front pages, starting with...

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This is the lead in the Times. It is the insistence by the Chancellor,

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Philip Hammond, that Britain won't be turned into a tax haven after

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Brexit. The FT reports that Japan's largest and has chosen Amsterdam for

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its banking headquarters as a result of uncertainty over Brexit. The top

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story in the Metro is the decision by President Putin to expel 755 US

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diplomats from Russia in what it calls a new Cold War. The Express

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claims that workers are cashing in their hard earned pension pots early

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and being overtaxed. The Daily Mail says British tourists are being

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charged hundreds of pounds for scratches and dents on higher cause.

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This front page criticises Channel 4 for broadcasting the Diana tapes --

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on higher cause. The times and more Brexit headlines. This time from

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Philip Hammond, saying that we won't be a tax haven after Brexit,

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Caroline. Yes, there has been lots of talk about his position in recent

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days. However, it seems to be that his is now the loudest voice when it

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comes to talking about where we are currently with Brexit. Sometimes it

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is different to other Cabinet members as well. Yes, most

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interestingly for journalists like Tony here. The key phrase is that he

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will wish the UK to remain recognisably European following

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Brexit. By which he is talking about not slashing taxes, not changing

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regulations dramatically. He doesn't want the UK to turn into a sort of

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Singapore style on wave, by which it is somehow going to be completing

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with other countries for sort of deals against Europe and the like --

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it is going to be competing. This has not gone down well with

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everybody. Tony, it's confusing for our viewers when you have these

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talks going on in Brussels and different messages are coming out of

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Downing Street, often from cabinet members, that don't seem to be in

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line with what is being talked about in Brussels right now. This is just

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another example of the chaos of the Government. There is a fantastic

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line here. Philip Hammond gave an interview to a French newspaper

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saying that often he hears it said that the UK is going to participate

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in unfair competition. But he said it in January to a German newspaper!

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What's going on at the moment is that there are two camps. The Prime

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Minister is away at the minute, C have the Chancellor and the Home

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Secretary, Amber Rudd, they want a soft Brexit. Then you have Liam Fox

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and Boris Johnson, they want a hard Brexit. Theresa May's authority

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isn't as hard as it was. That is so sweet of you to describe the Prime

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Minister is having authority, because she doesn't have any! She

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can't sack anyone would do anything. But she is the Prime Minister. She

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is out of the country and she has left Philip Hammond nominally in

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charge. There are various useless trade deals that Liam Fox does and

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Boris Johnson, they try and keep out of the country as much as possible

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for this reason. The Chancellor and the Home Secretary is not in it to

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announce soft Brexit deals, infuriating the right of their own

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party -- sneaked in. Is it chaos or is it that we just don't know things

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and different opinions are coming out at different times? Thing is

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most worrying is that the noises we are getting from Brussels, we don't

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know what we want, tell us what we want. We don't appear to know what

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we want because the Government is speaking in two different ways about

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what they want. Hammond is saying we are going to be a European country.

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On the other hand, Liam Fox was running around saying, no, American

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style food standards, we are perfectly happy to accept

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chlorinated chicken. That's not a European approach to animal welfare.

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We don't know what we want. For any non-politico looking at this, nobody

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is happy. The people who voted for Brexit are saying, that doesn't look

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like Brexit, it looks like remaining by any other name. The remainders

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are saying, it still a Brexit. Neither side will come out of this,

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I can't think of one single person who thinks, that's the result I was

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after. That takes us nicely to the Daily Telegraph. Johnson and Fox are

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out of the loop on EU migrants. This is the talk about what happens when

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it comes to freedom of movement post-Brexit. Again, lots of

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different messages coming from different cabinet ministers. They'll

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even admitting it, they are playing it like a chess board, if that has

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been said, I'm not part of it. Nobody is being vocally disloyal.

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Certainly nobody is denouncing Theresa May in her absence but they

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are distancing themselves, should the positions change in a week's

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time, they say, that doesn't mean I disagree. Somebody here, Doctor Fox,

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his turn to say, I'm not part of this, it's not what I am for. But

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Amber Rudd and Philip Hammond snuck in with this similarly to the

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regulations on the tax, the single movement, the free movement, will be

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very much the same, the fact of remaining. Tony, Philip Hammond

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saying something very different to Liam Fox. Yes, absolutely. Amber

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Rudd last week effectively saying we are going to broadly look at what

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happens with migration. This is a reality -based approach is opposed

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to a fantasy -based approach. When you say things like that, you are

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going to worry the majority of people who voted for Brexit. All I'm

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saying is that we're going to make a decision soon. This is the maximum

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point of danger. Do we have a three-year transitional arrangement

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to stop us falling off the hard cliff, or do we go with the

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Government who seem to think that everything is fine and we don't need

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to address the issues? Businesses have been saying to the Government,

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for example, agriculture, we need hundreds of thousands of seasonal

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workers to pick vegetables and fruit out of the ground. If we don't have

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them, we won't be able to pick fruit and vegetables. That's Brexit, there

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is no freedom of movement. This is the point, Brexit isn't a concept

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that is fixed in stone. We have dozens of options available to us if

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we can do go shoot. That is not what people voted for, Tony -- if we

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negotiate. Then we are going to come to a point where the Government's is

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going to make a decision about whether it is going to go with what

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people perceive to be the problem is or whether they are going to be

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honest with the electorate and say, we understand your anger and your

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vote but we are not going to harm the economy in a catastrophic way

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because you are slightly obsessed about immigration. You might not

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want what you thought you wanted! Nobody is going to end up about what

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they wanted, that's the whole point. You're going to end up in a

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situation where nobody is happy, nobody is going to get what they

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want, but the Government is trying to balance these different

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pressures. Which they always have done, but Brexit has brought it into

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hard focus, the layman steps back in amazement. You mean if we have fruit

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and vegetable pickers we may not have many nurses. These are abstract

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concepts, suddenly we are being told effectively we are going to have to

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make those choices. You can see the reality of another referendum being

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called than an Brexit, can't you? People who voted for Brexit that

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didn't want immigration, didn't want the of movement, are not going to

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get it. It's like playing with mercury. People are tempting to say,

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52% of the population who voted to leave the EU for 17 million

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different reasons. We can't turn around and say it was about

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immigration, trade, this and that... Are going to be a lot of very

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unhappy people at the next general election. There are also people who

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will come round to the reality of the fact that if we don't want to

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catastrophically harm the economy, we at least need to make a

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transitional deal. Let's move on. We'll see what happens. Not

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everybody thinks like you. We'll move on to the Financial Times. Oh,

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still an Brexit! Who set up this paper review! Of you two did!

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Japan's biggest bank plant a hub in Amsterdam to cope with the

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disruption of Brexit. This is an example of what we've been talking

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about. This huge banks, hugely influential in the eastern part of

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the world, that we obviously don't put our eyeballs on it but it

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doesn't mean it doesn't affect us. They have said that even ahead of

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Brexit they are looking around and moving a significant number of

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workers into a European hub, in that case it is Amsterdam. They will be

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the first of many who will be looking. Because it's going to be

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hard to find property, spaces, personal. It's like anything, once

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the cards fall down it is going to be Imada free from. These people

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have jumped on the head and said, we're going to do this at our pace.

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They are going to get the lay of the land. It will diminish confidence in

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the remaining people. The case for staying in the City of London and

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any other UK hubs will significantly weaken as a result. Shall we have a

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look at the Metro at some other stories. But in the boot in. New

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Cold War as Kremlin kicks diplomats out of Russia. Tony, some people

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will read that headline and say, hand on a minute, I thought

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President Putin and Donald Trump were being friendly and starting a

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new relationship, a new era. What's happened? The president isn't a

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tyrant yet, so the US Congress has overwhelmingly passed new sanctions

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that make it really difficult for the president dry and, you know,

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reduce the amount of sanctions that are already against Russia. It is a

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big blow for Donald Trump. The vote was over whelming be passed in the

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House and Senate and his spokesperson indicated he would sign

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the bill. It is a blow for Donald Trump. The law that I just referred

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to that the president may or may not sign doesn't just apply to Russia,

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it also applies to North Korea and Iran. The president, all this

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controversy about his links with Russia, it will be difficult for him

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to block this law. Pre-empting his signing, but a mere Putin has

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retaliated already by expelling back to the Cold War 755 US diplomats. It

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leaves me to ask exactly how many diplomats the US has in Russia,

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that's quite a lot! A small fraction?! Again, President Trump

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couldn't be seen to be being too friendly with Russia. Absolutely. He

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is caught between a rock and a hard, cold place in this case. Nothing he

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could do. He's been accused pre-election of cosying up to the

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Russians. Now he couldn't do anything about this. All this does

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is prove there is a little bit of a chocolate teapot in the White House

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when it comes to this committee is not having a very good week anyway.

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He hoped this will have gone under the radar, and clearly it hasn't. I

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wonder what that does for their plans to tackle cyber crime together

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as well stop you love all of those problems! But he has got no

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diplomats left! We saw this with him pleading that he was going to ban

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transgender people from the military last week. Tweets are not commands.

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His staff do not change orders through tweets. If you want to

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change policy, you go through the chain of command. He said he had

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spoken to US military commanders about it. They don't appear to have

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any idea he did speak to them. They did make it clear that tweets are

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not part of the chain of command. He wants to have a cyber relationship

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with President Putin but he is disgusted with the people he meets

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to discuss it with. This is one thing that will undo him in the end,

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he doesn't follow the chain of command. That turn our attention to

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the past, really. Passchendaele, although many people save up the

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past hopefully create a better future as well. -- say that the

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past. The Independent always do it differently and really capture it.

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It is poppies with messages from members of the public in the UK,

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actually. Actually on the poppies, near the First World War battle

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ground. Caroline, you said earlier that you feel that these

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commemorations of the First World War and Second World War battles

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seem to become a bigger deal recently. I think they have. It is a

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beautiful image, it completely captures it, lovely, understated and

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lacking in people. I mean, mercifully selfie free. That's

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something that I think these occasions do merit a red dignity

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from onlookers. Certainly the way they are presented from the media.

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We had this chat in the newsroom before we came on. As I grew up, I

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thought the past was another country, unless you had somebody in

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your family who bought, a grandfather who is stories you

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listen to. Now it is one of social media and video messaging, we have

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become very sophisticated at making these messages relevant and fresh to

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us. Certainly when you do get the benefit of Hollywood films being

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made, big budget retellings, and they do bring it home. Something

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like the film Dunkirk telling the story of the evacuation to a whole

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new audience for whom these stories will have a fresh resonance that I

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don't think has come along before. It is bittersweet. It is the

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Centenary as well. The commemorations are a lot bigger than

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usual. Tony and I were discussing as well before we came on air that we

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are meant to learn the lessons of war, and here we are 100 years on

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still very much at war in various parts of the world. You know, you

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just think on the idea that the First World War was the war to end

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all wars. You know, the Second World War came along... Actually, having

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said that, the amount of conflict in the world is at the lowest I think

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it's ever been. Ironically, we live in a much more peaceful world. But

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it obviously doesn't feel like that. The Daily Telegraph featuring one of

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the many pictures you will see tomorrow morning, the Duke and

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Duchess of Cambridge attending those Centenary commemorations. Again,

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Caroline, it's these young royals that are so might do attract more

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young people to take part or at least take notice of these, ratios.

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Certainly. In this generation, with Prince William and Prince Harry, you

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do have two members of forces, they followed in the family tradition.

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Say what we will about the rules, whether they get too much tension,

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certainly these brothers have come forward talking about mental health

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recently. Some say they have over egged that pudding, but you can't

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doubt there is inserted in turning up to these events and honouring the

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dead. This week will be interesting for them. Whatever they do, they be

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overshadowed by the looming 20-year legacy of their late mother.

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Caroline Antoni, many thanks. We will do it again in about an hour's

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time. -- Caroline and Tony. There is more at 11:30pm.

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