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We will get all of the latest from Barcelona at 11pm but now we can see

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how all of this is being covered on tomorrow's front pages.

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Hello and welcome to our look ahead at all of the papers. We have

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Christopher Hope, assistant editor and chief political correspondent at

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The Daily Telegraph, and Jessica Elgot, political correspondent at

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The Guardian. The papers are dominated by the events in

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Barcelona, as you would expect. The metro carries a picture of some of

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the victims caught up in the attack. A warning that some of the papers

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are carrying photographs you might find disturbing. We will talk about

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this picture selection process for newspaper front pages in a moment,

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but The Mirror has scenes of carnage with an image of the white van used

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in the attack. The Guardian leads with a photograph and a photo of one

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of the suspects, believed to be from Rocco. He has told police he wasn't

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involved in the attack. -- from Morocco. The photograph suggesting

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the death toll of 13 is likely to rise. Plans by the taxi company

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Buber to recover from a spate of scandals, that in the Financial

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Times. Let's begin with the Metro. It's so

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difficult to find new words to say, isn't it, about these attacks?

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Because unfortunately we've become rather too practised in reporting

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them in the last couple of years. We have, and it is a low tack attack

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which is very hard to defend against. It is just a vehicle you

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can hire for a few pounds or euros and can be used like this as a

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weapon. It's hard to see how you can protect against this apart from

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dealing with the source, which is the people driving them. And the

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choice of target, of course, Las Ramblas, at a time of year, but

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particularly now, is such a magnet for people visiting Barcelona. Yes,

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I'm sure many people watching this will have been down that area. It's

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such a vibrant street where you can normally not move the tourists on

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either side. There are cafes, shops, street performers, and it is a core

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part of the Barcelona tourist scene, and there will have been so many

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people there, and that's what makes it so devastating. It is a partly

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pedestrianised street but they have restricted the amount of traffic

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that can get along there because people just do walk in the road.

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Yes, and it happened in the late afternoon, when people are out

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having a drink or a coffee, so it would have been rammed full of

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people. I mean, it's utterly shocking, to deliberately targeted

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for that reason. That picture on the Metro is of people comforting each

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other. Unable to imagine or believe what it is they have seen. The Daily

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Mirror has a wider view of Las Ramblas. A specific choice has been

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made by the editors here, hasn't it? The Metro might feel it is a free

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paper picked up by commuters. It doesn't need to sell itself on its

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front page, maybe. Newspapers you have to pay money for have a more

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shocking front page. There are at least two bodies that have been

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pixelated out. Three bodies on the back. It's shocking thing to see.

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The skill of editing a paper to see that across the front page tomorrow

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morning. We've already seen the number of people wounded has grown

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immensely through the last few hours. 13 dead and around 100 people

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wounded. That could change, of course. Because of the fact that the

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van weaved from side to side and just hit as many people as possible.

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And I think it's really indicative of an attack that can only really

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have lost that a couple of minutes or so, just how packed those streets

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were, as you can see from the picture. It is a very wide street

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and to be able to injure that many people in that sort of short space

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of time just shows how deliberately the action must be and how crowded

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it must be. And that for me was reminiscent of Nice, wasn't it? When

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that Lori was driven across the promenade. Because, again, so many

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people had gathered in that place where they thought they would be

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safe. -- when a lorry was driven. I have to warn you, again, a shocking

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picture here. A man being tended to by police or paramedics,

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potentially. The emergency services were on the scene very fast because

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it's such a central place. In terms of picture selection, obviously you

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are not picture editors yourselves, but do you think it has changed, the

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kind of photographs newspapers are prepared to put on their front pages

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in recent years? I think, as you said in the opener, this is

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something that we are potentially becoming desensitised to, and also

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something we have to try to be careful not to be desensitised to,

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because every attack like this is a tragedy. If you were to try to draw

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a line, and it's very, very difficult, but including pictures of

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people who are obviously alive is a different choice to including

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pictures of people who are potentially not alive when families

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might recognise them, even if they... I mean, I would recognise a

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family member if their face was pixelated. People might not be aware

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they were caught up in the attack, let alone might have died. Yes, and

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they are much more liberal now with their pictures they show their

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audiences. That guy's left leg looks very, very seriously injured to me.

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So I agree. Is his family where he is involved? I'm not sure that's a

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good one to use given those issues and the child they are looking on.

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Maybe the child knows him... I don't know. A lot of people have phones in

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their pockets now and they are looking at Twitter and they are

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seeing even worse things there, so the papers feel they have to respond

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to that. Those things are out there and people are absorbing them and

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maybe we should reflect that. And maybe we shouldn't be protected from

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the true horror of it. Yes, and back in the day, when they were black and

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white, those awful pictures of people dying at Hillsborough,

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Continental newspapers publish them and there was a massive row is the

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UK papers held back. I don't know, it's a difficult choice. And the

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headline for The Times, "Evil strikes again". And in all these

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cities. And then a woman killed in Charlottesville by a car being

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driven at the crowd deliberately. None of these people have signed up

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to any creed, they are just living their lives, but they are being

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blamed by the people behind it. They regularly claimed they were involved

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somewhere or another, IS. If you look at the language crisis uses,

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they say they are a follower and soldier, and that doesn't mean it's

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been directed by somebody. There isn't a grand scheme. It could be

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someone who is inspired by them or not. Again, of course, we had an

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outpouring of grief and condolences expressed from world leaders to

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Spain to say we stand with you, but then you start to think, how is a

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city like Barcelona meant to protect people and yet remain that kind of

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place that people want to visit? You can put barriers up, so we've seen

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Barry is where we work around Parliament, on Westminster bridge,

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to try to stop vans. I think there's a limit to what you can do apart

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from trying to go at source and tackle the people behind this

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because the weapon used here is available to any grown-up. It is a

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sorry state of affairs where every single public square or those fast

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bridges has to have barriers to protect people, and that may be

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where we find ourselves, but it is sad that that is the action police

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and Mayers might have to take. It is a difficult balancing act, isn't it?

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The thing that people come to enjoy, but we expect to be kept safe. You

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don't want to make a place looked like a war zone and that's the last

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thing we want. The Houses of Parliament are beautiful space and

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people come to see it and we want them to see it as an open space.

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It's a place of democracy people can look into and be part of, but if

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you've got to a wrecked concrete barriers around the people'ssafety,

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maybe that is what you have to do. We will pause for a second and look

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at a couple of other stories in the FT. Not Barcelona, but we will have

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more coverage of what's happening in Spain, because as we were

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mentioning, the police have said the driver of that ban has not yet been

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arrested. -- of that van. Two suspects have been arrested. One is

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a Spaniard and one is Moroccan. But for the Financial Times, though,

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A-levels day. A rise in the number of pupils gaining top grades. That

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will worry some people thinking again, exams are getting easier. And

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Michael Gove hit them harder! The only person who might have been sad

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about that is not their parents but Michael Gove, who was alarmed that

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exams seemed to be getting easier, and I think the greats have fallen

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in recent years but they seem to be on the rise again. -- I think the

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grades have fallen. I'm sure he feels he has a real stake in this!

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Is quite interesting that boys are doing better. Having won because I'm

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at the end of the two-year period and that is happening still. -- it

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is interesting because at the end of the two-year period you have this

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one exam. You want there to be a parity so you want boys and girls to

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be doing roughly the same and is generalising that girls tend to be

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more diligently studying throughout their course and the boys tend to do

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better in the pressure of exams. Of course it's a generalisation but

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these exams, the way the new exams seem to work, the old way seems to

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favour boys generally and so it would be interesting to see whether

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that gap increases or whether it does... Is the coursework system

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fair on boys? I think a mixture where both, and were talking

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generally, but a mixture might be perhaps the way. Why not have boy

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and girl exams? Pink and blue! Why don't we have that? If you can

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really... Well, you're doing both. You've got a pink and blue stripe.

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Shall we leave it there? I would do! Finally. Thank you! Can you unpick

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this story for us in about 20 seconds? Is all going a bit wrong

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for Donald Trump. He is saying here in his interview with the American

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prospect magazine that he was fighting every day with Gary Cohn,

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who is the chief advisor, and it is just evidence of a chaotic White

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House. And North Korea is really actually the sort of main foreign

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policy threat that Donald Trump is facing at the moment and he... You

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know, Steve Bannon poured scorn over what the president has achieved and

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the US policy on it. But he likes loyalty? So we are told, but Steve

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Bannon occupies a different position in the White House. A strategist?

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But he might go too far with some of his comments! There's another theory

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about Trump that he likes to see his advisors pitted against each other,

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to see them fighting for his affections! Kind of like he was

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running The Apprentice and I wonder whether this might be part of that.

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Like the offices! Not at all! Never! Don't besmirch your fellow guest!

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That's it from us. Because of the events in Barcelona we will be back

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again at 11:30pm. Don't forget you can see the front pages on the BBC

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news website. If you missed the programme any

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evening you can watch it later on the BBC iPlayer. Chris, Jessica,

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thank you very much. See you later. We will bring you the latest from

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Barcelona. Hello, as if our weather wasn't

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complicated enough, we are going to throw in some tropical air for good

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measure, and that comes in the shape of this cloud here, which was a

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hurricane

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