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We will get all of the latest from Barcelona at 11pm but now we can see


how all of this is being covered on tomorrow's front pages.


Hello and welcome to our look ahead at all of the papers. We have


Christopher Hope, assistant editor and chief political correspondent at


The Daily Telegraph, and Jessica Elgot, political correspondent at


The Guardian. The papers are dominated by the events in


Barcelona, as you would expect. The metro carries a picture of some of


the victims caught up in the attack. A warning that some of the papers


are carrying photographs you might find disturbing. We will talk about


this picture selection process for newspaper front pages in a moment,


but The Mirror has scenes of carnage with an image of the white van used


in the attack. The Guardian leads with a photograph and a photo of one


of the suspects, believed to be from Rocco. He has told police he wasn't


involved in the attack. -- from Morocco. The photograph suggesting


the death toll of 13 is likely to rise. Plans by the taxi company


Buber to recover from a spate of scandals, that in the Financial


Times. Let's begin with the Metro. It's so


difficult to find new words to say, isn't it, about these attacks?


Because unfortunately we've become rather too practised in reporting


them in the last couple of years. We have, and it is a low tack attack


which is very hard to defend against. It is just a vehicle you


can hire for a few pounds or euros and can be used like this as a


weapon. It's hard to see how you can protect against this apart from


dealing with the source, which is the people driving them. And the


choice of target, of course, Las Ramblas, at a time of year, but


particularly now, is such a magnet for people visiting Barcelona. Yes,


I'm sure many people watching this will have been down that area. It's


such a vibrant street where you can normally not move the tourists on


either side. There are cafes, shops, street performers, and it is a core


part of the Barcelona tourist scene, and there will have been so many


people there, and that's what makes it so devastating. It is a partly


pedestrianised street but they have restricted the amount of traffic


that can get along there because people just do walk in the road.


Yes, and it happened in the late afternoon, when people are out


having a drink or a coffee, so it would have been rammed full of


people. I mean, it's utterly shocking, to deliberately targeted


for that reason. That picture on the Metro is of people comforting each


other. Unable to imagine or believe what it is they have seen. The Daily


Mirror has a wider view of Las Ramblas. A specific choice has been


made by the editors here, hasn't it? The Metro might feel it is a free


paper picked up by commuters. It doesn't need to sell itself on its


front page, maybe. Newspapers you have to pay money for have a more


shocking front page. There are at least two bodies that have been


pixelated out. Three bodies on the back. It's shocking thing to see.


The skill of editing a paper to see that across the front page tomorrow


morning. We've already seen the number of people wounded has grown


immensely through the last few hours. 13 dead and around 100 people


wounded. That could change, of course. Because of the fact that the


van weaved from side to side and just hit as many people as possible.


And I think it's really indicative of an attack that can only really


have lost that a couple of minutes or so, just how packed those streets


were, as you can see from the picture. It is a very wide street


and to be able to injure that many people in that sort of short space


of time just shows how deliberately the action must be and how crowded


it must be. And that for me was reminiscent of Nice, wasn't it? When


that Lori was driven across the promenade. Because, again, so many


people had gathered in that place where they thought they would be


safe. -- when a lorry was driven. I have to warn you, again, a shocking


picture here. A man being tended to by police or paramedics,


potentially. The emergency services were on the scene very fast because


it's such a central place. In terms of picture selection, obviously you


are not picture editors yourselves, but do you think it has changed, the


kind of photographs newspapers are prepared to put on their front pages


in recent years? I think, as you said in the opener, this is


something that we are potentially becoming desensitised to, and also


something we have to try to be careful not to be desensitised to,


because every attack like this is a tragedy. If you were to try to draw


a line, and it's very, very difficult, but including pictures of


people who are obviously alive is a different choice to including


pictures of people who are potentially not alive when families


might recognise them, even if they... I mean, I would recognise a


family member if their face was pixelated. People might not be aware


they were caught up in the attack, let alone might have died. Yes, and


they are much more liberal now with their pictures they show their


audiences. That guy's left leg looks very, very seriously injured to me.


So I agree. Is his family where he is involved? I'm not sure that's a


good one to use given those issues and the child they are looking on.


Maybe the child knows him... I don't know. A lot of people have phones in


their pockets now and they are looking at Twitter and they are


seeing even worse things there, so the papers feel they have to respond


to that. Those things are out there and people are absorbing them and


maybe we should reflect that. And maybe we shouldn't be protected from


the true horror of it. Yes, and back in the day, when they were black and


white, those awful pictures of people dying at Hillsborough,


Continental newspapers publish them and there was a massive row is the


UK papers held back. I don't know, it's a difficult choice. And the


headline for The Times, "Evil strikes again". And in all these


cities. And then a woman killed in Charlottesville by a car being


driven at the crowd deliberately. None of these people have signed up


to any creed, they are just living their lives, but they are being


blamed by the people behind it. They regularly claimed they were involved


somewhere or another, IS. If you look at the language crisis uses,


they say they are a follower and soldier, and that doesn't mean it's


been directed by somebody. There isn't a grand scheme. It could be


someone who is inspired by them or not. Again, of course, we had an


outpouring of grief and condolences expressed from world leaders to


Spain to say we stand with you, but then you start to think, how is a


city like Barcelona meant to protect people and yet remain that kind of


place that people want to visit? You can put barriers up, so we've seen


Barry is where we work around Parliament, on Westminster bridge,


to try to stop vans. I think there's a limit to what you can do apart


from trying to go at source and tackle the people behind this


because the weapon used here is available to any grown-up. It is a


sorry state of affairs where every single public square or those fast


bridges has to have barriers to protect people, and that may be


where we find ourselves, but it is sad that that is the action police


and Mayers might have to take. It is a difficult balancing act, isn't it?


The thing that people come to enjoy, but we expect to be kept safe. You


don't want to make a place looked like a war zone and that's the last


thing we want. The Houses of Parliament are beautiful space and


people come to see it and we want them to see it as an open space.


It's a place of democracy people can look into and be part of, but if


you've got to a wrecked concrete barriers around the people'ssafety,


maybe that is what you have to do. We will pause for a second and look


at a couple of other stories in the FT. Not Barcelona, but we will have


more coverage of what's happening in Spain, because as we were


mentioning, the police have said the driver of that ban has not yet been


arrested. -- of that van. Two suspects have been arrested. One is


a Spaniard and one is Moroccan. But for the Financial Times, though,


A-levels day. A rise in the number of pupils gaining top grades. That


will worry some people thinking again, exams are getting easier. And


Michael Gove hit them harder! The only person who might have been sad


about that is not their parents but Michael Gove, who was alarmed that


exams seemed to be getting easier, and I think the greats have fallen


in recent years but they seem to be on the rise again. -- I think the


grades have fallen. I'm sure he feels he has a real stake in this!


Is quite interesting that boys are doing better. Having won because I'm


at the end of the two-year period and that is happening still. -- it


is interesting because at the end of the two-year period you have this


one exam. You want there to be a parity so you want boys and girls to


be doing roughly the same and is generalising that girls tend to be


more diligently studying throughout their course and the boys tend to do


better in the pressure of exams. Of course it's a generalisation but


these exams, the way the new exams seem to work, the old way seems to


favour boys generally and so it would be interesting to see whether


that gap increases or whether it does... Is the coursework system


fair on boys? I think a mixture where both, and were talking


generally, but a mixture might be perhaps the way. Why not have boy


and girl exams? Pink and blue! Why don't we have that? If you can


really... Well, you're doing both. You've got a pink and blue stripe.


Shall we leave it there? I would do! Finally. Thank you! Can you unpick


this story for us in about 20 seconds? Is all going a bit wrong


for Donald Trump. He is saying here in his interview with the American


prospect magazine that he was fighting every day with Gary Cohn,


who is the chief advisor, and it is just evidence of a chaotic White


House. And North Korea is really actually the sort of main foreign


policy threat that Donald Trump is facing at the moment and he... You


know, Steve Bannon poured scorn over what the president has achieved and


the US policy on it. But he likes loyalty? So we are told, but Steve


Bannon occupies a different position in the White House. A strategist?


But he might go too far with some of his comments! There's another theory


about Trump that he likes to see his advisors pitted against each other,


to see them fighting for his affections! Kind of like he was


running The Apprentice and I wonder whether this might be part of that.


Like the offices! Not at all! Never! Don't besmirch your fellow guest!


That's it from us. Because of the events in Barcelona we will be back


again at 11:30pm. Don't forget you can see the front pages on the BBC


news website. If you missed the programme any


evening you can watch it later on the BBC iPlayer. Chris, Jessica,


thank you very much. See you later. We will bring you the latest from


Barcelona. Hello, as if our weather wasn't


complicated enough, we are going to throw in some tropical air for good


measure, and that comes in the shape of this cloud here, which was a




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