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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

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With me are Susie Boniface, columnist with the Daily Mirror and

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the Public Affairs Consultant Alex Deane.

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The Financial Times, which leads with Donald Trump's

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tax reform plans - saying that the President is hungry

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The Mail reports on plans to prioritise vulnerable people

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who have been victims of crime - claiming that people who speak good

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The Times claims that private schools are encouraging pupils

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to learn a trade rather than go to University.

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The Mirror leads with a weight loss story -

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Loose Women presenter Lisa Riley has had loose skin removed

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The I features a story on queues at airports -

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both for British citizens and foreign tourists.

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The Express warn their readers that a heatwave is on the way

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The Telegraph say that Buckingham Palace is in lockdown tonight after

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a knife attack on police officers on the model.

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Donald Trump, front page of the Financial Times eyeing an ambitious

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tax reform agenda. This is a man, not much of what he promised has yet

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come to past. He wants to get on the front foot and tax reform is the

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issue which has been number one on the agenda for the Republicans.

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Personal tax, income tax as well. It is the big challenge for this

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President moving beyond declaration to actually deeds and changing

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things. That is why as the Financial Times identifies, he is going to

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come into difficulties that the arguments he has been having with

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his own party, with the Speaker of the house, Paul Ryan and the Senate

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majority leader Mitch O'Connell because he will need their help in

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delivering tax reform and to state the obvious given what has happened

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in this country, we have lowered corporation tax and our corporations

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pay more tax than ever. We have lowered our higher rate of income

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tax. It is that kind of basic reform that Donald Trump wants to deliver

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in the United States. He is having the wrong kind of argument about

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whether debt ceiling is and whether it has to go up yet again. No easy

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thing with the Senate and the house poised as they are for real tax

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cuts. This would be job's first real reform and he is not helping himself

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at the arguments he has against his own side. The Financial Times is

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right, he is making his own life more difficult. The reason that he

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is hungry for a legislative win is because all he has had its losses.

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Tax reform was one of the big planks he campaigned for, it is also

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something which his businesses that he has not divorced himself from

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entirely stand to gain from quite a lot. His own children will probably

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gain hundreds of millions if not billions from suggested reforms of

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the inheritance tax that they have in the US, which is one of the

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things he wants to put forward and Alex has referred to, he is having

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big arguments with Paul Ryan, the leader of the Republicans in

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Congress and also with the Senate leader Mitch O'Connell and if he

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wants to get tax reform through the house, he needs their help to do it.

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If he is going to do this and try and push, one of these big cells he

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made to the American people through, he has to do it before he upsets

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them any more than he already has. Time is of the essence. What is the

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argument against these? I take your point about raising revenues, not

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everyone agrees, but still, where does Trump get the opposition? It is

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contentious because there are some who think we ought to make the

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wealthy pay their share and becomes an ideological point, almost I do

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not care what your statistics say, I know we should have a higher rate of

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tax to make people pay more. You almost do not care whether it

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delivers more money, it is to be able to say that you are taxing the

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wealthy more. Inheritance tax is a special point in that many people,

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even those who never realistically Payette,

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resented, because they aspire to have the kind of estates where they

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would pass something onto the children. It is taxing you on

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something you have already been taxed on. It is taxing you when you

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try to hand something onto your children, it is a tax on love. It is

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a tax that redistributes through society. It attempts to. The

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American system is slightly different to ours. When someone has

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a huge amount of wealth, like Donald Trump, he has billions of dollars

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worth of tax and property, it gets taxed at such a rate that it gets

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broken up and get spread around. Donald Trump inherited a lot of

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money from his father. Probably more than he has ever made. You get taxed

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on everything in life, taxing your new death seems pretty cheap. Let us

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move to this side of the Atlantic. The Times main story. Top schools

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push bubbles away from university. The privately educated advice to

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learn trades. Not what you expect. The Times is trying to say that posh

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pupils are doing the tags and they have been doing vocational courses

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and they're going to be plumbers. Because degrees are so overrated and

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cost too much. There are several points in the story that are

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fascinating. The first is that what has happened is that this has

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happened in independent schools since tuition fees came in and

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because the eventual lifetime cost of repairing some of those fees for

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people who are going to be doing well will be more than ?100,000 over

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your lifetime and people are starting to think, do a need to get

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a degree? Am I going to be a lawyer or a teacher or something or am I

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going to be working on my father's large country estate 's work I need

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to know about animal husbandry? They're stopping to ask themselves a

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question because of the costs involved and I'm sure this is

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something that pupils at normal state schools are doing in far

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greater numbers. The other thing that is interesting is of the 452

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independent schools who have submitted how many pupils are

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getting the text and A-levels, only 700 -- 603 of them took the text.

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603 pupils in the schools is a tiny proportion, and across the country,

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376,000 state school pupils are taking BTECs. There may be a bit of

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a trend, but it is not swamping us... The numbers are relatively

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small but there is a trend in that direction and I for one welcome it.

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For some time in our country we had a perverse belief in arbitrary

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numbers and saying, 50%, as the then Labour government said, should go to

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university. There are problems at both ends of the spectrum, I went to

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a normal state school and a university, by no means the

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cleverest person at my school, some people did not have the aspiration

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to go who probably should have. We do have in our country and British

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people have it worse than many other countries, in Germany if you are an

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engineer, but the something of great pride but in this country, we treat

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those sorts of skills as slightly below the salt. We encourage people

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to pursue university degrees who frankly should never go. In a lot of

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Europe, it will go to university for longer. That is the strange thing.

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Long education. I did not go to university, didn't do me any harm.

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Before we leave the subject, you would have thought the sort of

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people who can afford to send their children to posh schools would not

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worry too much about universities. The reason that those families have

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perhaps more money to dispose of it is because they are more careful. It

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is not just about affording the fees, it is about whether going is

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the best thing to do for you and your future and for many young

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people, doing a BTEC and going the vocational route is better for you.

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Let's move on. EU warns Britain against playing the Northern Ireland

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card and Brexit talks. Please, just quickly, new viewers here and tell

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us about this. Interesting story from the Financial Times, the

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European Union is saying do not think you can claim that your

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special relationship with Ireland means you can somehow circumvent

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normal relations with the EU in the course of negotiations. The EU's

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point is that you have decided to leave, knowing full well you have

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this land border EU country, you have to play by the rules and

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understand that are going to not do this as an extraordinary situation

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with the norms are circumvented because you have a special

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relationship with Ireland. The United Kingdom's prospective is

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first of all, the most vital thing is to ensure that we do not really

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stymie activity and cross-border trade on the island of Ireland and

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that we are able to ensure that the peace process continues. I think

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those things do add up to a special circumstance and I think that not

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only is that the position of the UK, I think it will also be Ireland's

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position as well. I understand that the EU is saying to the UK, do not

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think you can use the Northern Ireland situation as a bargaining

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chip to undermine normal processes, as reality bites and we go further

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down the track, I think it will come about, whether or not they think it

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is right. Yet another complexity in this Brexit business. In shorthand,

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the EU is accusing the UK of using the Northern Ireland situation as

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emotional blackmail, to get us the kind of Brexit, the EU will agree

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with anything to suit us otherwise there will be some terrorism and

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Britain are saying to the EU, it is all very important and we do not

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want terrorism and if there is, we will blame you. It is almost

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impossible to divorce the issues. You cannot say, Brexit is entirely

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separate to what you do in Northern Ireland and the peace process and

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the border and everything and you cannot agree it separately and it is

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also slightly unreasonable to say that they are dependent one upon the

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other because if you are in negotiation, saying we would like to

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sell your machine pies and it all depends on what we agree over here

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and it is unrelated, it is madness. It is a fair point, Ireland is an EU

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state, but the Irish to more of their trade with the UK than anyone

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else and you could argue the Brexit is more of a problem for the Irish

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than the UK Government in trade terms. I think, we have regulated

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travel between the United Kingdom and Ireland under Common travel

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area, well predated the European Union, we do

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not need EU to tell us what to do on that and furthermore, there is a

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special relationship, Irish citizens vote in our elections... What you

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will have is that Northern Ireland will have to have a sort of separate

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Brexit arrangement to the rest of the United Kingdom, because it has

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that land border with the Republic of Ireland because there is no

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appetite for customs checks on the border, then it will effectively

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maintain or continue as it is now worth Scotland and Wales will not.

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They tend to brag about with there will be systems for doing it. There

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are roads, border which crisscross the border of three or four times.

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The border is madness. Some people are suggesting that the UK will have

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this back door into the EU or vice versa. If you wanted to come

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illegally into the United Kingdom and you are an EU citizen, come on a

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tourist visa and then overstayed legally rather than going via

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Ireland where it will be more difficult. Let us move on, the Daily

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Telegraph, they have moved very specially because we were here just

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this evening about events at Buckingham Palace. You were close to

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it. I was. You do not know much about it. On my way to the studio,

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all I saw was what is in this picture, lots of blue flashing

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lights, the police cordoned off the whole area and we were diverted very

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quickly away through west London. Incredible really, the speed at

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which the police responded to this incident. It is one of the busiest

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areas of London and traffic was packed. They had very efficiently

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and calmly manoeuvred traffic in this incredibly busy London area,

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mostly calm, while they themselves propelling themselves down London

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Street at a very high speed. That is what they are trained for. A lot of

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people I know come to us at this time, just to explain what we know

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which is not a lot. What we know at the moment is that a man with some

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kind of blade, eyewitnesses say a sword and police confirm it is a

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knife of some kind, we do not know whether it is a pen knife or a great

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big samurai sword, anything in between the two, has attacked some

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police officers. Too early to say if it is terror related, even if it is,

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there is a Venn diagram were madmen and terrorists cross over, there is

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a big link between the two. We know the man who has been detained

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has been detained on suspicion of grievous bodily harm and assaulting

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police, that is quite a serious kind of assault, it is not common. They

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might move the charge down from that. We also know that two male

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police officers sustained minor injuries to their arms. That would

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imply it is a defence of wind. It is not because they have been punched

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in the face. The Queen is at Sandringham at this time of year.

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Balmoral, sorry. Let us hope it was nothing too dreadful. Let us move

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on. Susie, the Daily Mail has the story and others do as well, the

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headline, police saying we may not come out if you speak English. That

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is a wonderful bit of headline simplification. Explain what this

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tells us. And you're not in any danger. What we are talking about,

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the second-in-command of the country's biggest for say callers

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will be prioritised. If you have a vehicle theft, perhaps a bicycle has

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been stolen from outside your home and the police, it happened a week

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ago while you are holiday, the police will not turn up and look at

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the empty railings, if you are perfectly able to speak to them over

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the phone and file your insurance claim, that is the end of it. If

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however you have learning difficulties, if English is not your

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first language or if you are elderly, they might come out to see

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you and Wood the person because you will need that extra face-to-face

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interaction. It is entirely reasonable prioritisation of calls.

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That sounds fine, except it says in the Daily Mail, last night MPs and

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campaign groups hit out at the police man involved saying that

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these proposals were utterly bonkers. Do you have some sympathy

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with that? I am about as police sceptic as you get in the political

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mainstream. I ran Big Brother watch for a couple of years, I think our

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police force is covered up a paedophile ring in South Yorkshire,

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they behaved disgracefully over things like Hillsboro, I am very

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police sceptic. This is not really a story in my view and people who have

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attacked it had done so on the basis that they were asked to give a quote

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that they then gave without really thinking about

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what the story men. For me, this is a story about the police saying if

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you're able to expect the situation over the phone, we will take it over

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the phone and if you're not able to do that, we will come and see you.

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If you phone up and say, I speak English, I am middle class and

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middle aged I appear to be being stabbed in the face, the police will

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still turn up. People are sceptical when you hear the word might. One MP

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blames it on political correctness which is insane. Silly season. When

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the police come and arrest the householder who sat on the burglar

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rather than arresting the burglar, that is the sort of story that the

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Daily Mail should be making their meat and drink on. Gates of hell,

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the neck story. Actually, what is this. This is about Heathrow. I fly

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a lot for business, when you come through Heathrow, by the third of

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the gates are working, that is true, the sun has spotted this and ran the

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story because at the same time, they point out, Bank Holiday cost for

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rail travel are going up because our transport system is trying to

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discourage people from travelling, even though everyone travels on the

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Bank Holiday to see their families and it will be busy on the roads. It

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is a bit of a dog bites man story. We have more people flying, so there

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are increasing queue length and Theresa May as Home Secretary was

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busy cutting numbers of border force agents. It is like the self-service

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talent supermarket, you need someone there to supervise because they get

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chewed up and they need someone to reset the whole thing. We have to

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leave it there. Don't forget you can see the front

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pages of the papers online It's all there for you - seven days

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a week at bbc.co.uk/papers - and if you miss the programme any

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evening you can watch it Good evening. Mainly quiet weekend

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