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Hello and welcome to our look ahead
to what the the papers will be
bringing us tomorrow.
With me are Martin Lipton,
Deputy Head of Sport
at The Sun, and Rosamund Urwin,
columnist for the London
Lovely to have you both here. We'll
be taking a look through the papers
in the moment. First off, a quick
resume of what's going on, starting
with the times.
The Times claims the
Prime Minister was given
details of an alleged sexual assault
made by the former defence
secretary Sir Michael Fallon
hours before he resigned.
He says the allegations are not true
and that he has never
physically assaulted anyone.
The Telegraph says Sir Michael had
declared Andrea Leadsom
was preventing Cabinet
agreement on Brexit,
and that she in turn
"stuck the knife in" in revenge.
The Mail has a similar line
of enquiry on its front page,
asking if the Leader of the Commons
had acted to save her job.
The i chooses to focus
on the Labour Party's investigations
into allegations made
against its MPs.
We suspect that page will change
later, but currently focusing on
Labour MP Clive Lewis. The Daily
Express talks about Harriet Harman
on its front page. It says the
former deputy party leader repeated
an anti-Semitic joke on television.
The Guardian says the cost of Brexit
will mean an extra £930 on household
food bills as the price of staples
is set to rise in the event
of the UK leaving the EU
without a trade deal.
The FT 's top story is the row
brewing at the London Stock Exchange
over the departure of its chief
executive, saying he is being forced
out against his wishes.
Lastly the Daily Mirror features
the accusation of sexual assault
made by a female trainer
against a top jockey.
So those are your front pages.
Martin, what was that shake for?
Every paper has a variant on the
same theme, people who in positions
of power are behaving badly.
story, different protagonist,
We start with the times,
and this is a very damaging
allegation against Sir Michael
Fallon, the allegation that he
committed an alleged sexual assault.
We know he is denying it
emphatically and vehemently, but
this revelation came from another
member of the Conservative Party in
parliament, in Anna Soubry, who has
told The Times that this is alleged
to have happened, and that this was
the reason for his false resignation
-- forced resignation the other
night. And with every passing day,
this steady drip of claim,
allegation and action in terms of
MPs from most parties it would
appear, certainly Labour and the
Conservative Party, being forced to
lose the whip or even at some point
resign from Parliament, is
continuing. And it is pretty
depressing to see Parliament reduced
We have got The Times, and
we have also got the mail and the
Telegraph, all leading on
allegations involving Conservative
names. Rosamunde, when you look at
that, they have all denied these
allegations in one form or another.
What goes through your mind when you
read this? As Martin said, it is
just allegation after allegation?
And Michael Fallon has said that he
has behaved inappropriately, so he
has done a fair -- mea culpa on some
of it. But one of the things that
strikes me is that we knew that the
informal atmosphere in Parliament,
we knew there were problems to do
with power, with the fact that
frankly if you're a junior
researcher in Parliament and
employed by an MP, how much are you
able to say no to things? We knew
all these issues, people had been
reporting on these things for years,
but we have suddenly opened the
floodgates, I feel. Harvey Weinstein
has changed things, it really has,
and people are saying all these
things were heard about in the
background, and actually this should
be on the front pages.
people do seem empowered to speak
out for the first time.
forget how hard it is to come
forward. Lots of people have been
talking about a witchhunt, and
personally I think that is
completely the wrong term, because
when you think about witchhunts,
they were hunting innocent people.
We act as though the worst thing
that can ever happen to somebody who
has done selling bad is that they
lose their job, but how many other
people's careers were harmed because
these things happen to them? Maybe
they did bring forward a complaint
that was damaging to their career.
Perhaps they didn't, but they moved
jobs and felt forced to go and do
uncomfortable, wouldn't you, in that
Of course you would,
and we are shining a spotlight on
Parliament, but I'm sure in the
coming months it will be other
What is interesting is
that the Michael Fallon stories are
there, and then you go onto the
other stories about Michael Fallon
and then also Andrea Leadsom, and
what you have this fear and loathing
around Cabinet table, and until two
or three days ago, ministerial,
Secretary of State colleagues, just
doing each other over big time in a
pretty public forum here, Andrea
Leadsom saved her job by accusing
Fallon of sexual harassment, it says
There is a question there.
This is friends of Michael Fallon
clearly briefing on his behalf,
saying she was about to be sacked
because she isn't very good, and he
was on the other side...
that she wasn't very good, they have
this issue that she was one of those
people who they think is going to be
impossible to get a compromise on
Brexit, because she is a very strong
Brexiteer, so they think it is
impossible she will sign up to a
deal. How are they going to cope
with the fact that in that cabinet
on Brexit you have people like her
and you have obviously people who
really want Remain ultimately. It's
There are all the other
factors here, and if this level of
sheer animosity, whether it is on a
personal or political level within
the Cabinet, how can you have any
concept of governmental control and
to termination of issues. It is
really quite concerning. It is fair
to say reading between the lines
that there is a Remain faction that
feels that Andrea Leadsom is so
vehemently pro-Brexit that she
wouldn't compromise at all on the
final deal, and it is conflating two
I was thinking
back to the expenses scandal, and it
was in no wayGordon Brown's fault,
but it did add to the feeling that
these were the dying days of a
regime, and again, this is not to do
with Theresa May although there may
be things that she knew or the whips
knew, but it does seem this is going
to be the nail in the coffin.
long do you think the public will be
interested in this story? Already
we're getting people having fatigue
over the stories, I don't want to
hear about this any more. It's
It depends what the
allegations are. If we're talking
about if all the allegations were
the same, if they were all putting
hands on knees, which if you are
harassed is a serious issue, but
again and again, people would get a
bit bored, but if we're talking
about significant and serious
allegations of criminal acts which
have been covered up whether it was
by the Labour Party or the
Conservative Party, any other party,
then it will continue to run. And it
should do. As the Harvey Weinstein
and now Kevin Spacey allegations, we
had Dustin Hoffman allegations, when
the allegations are of a
particularly serious nature, they
will continue to be looked at.
have talked to female MPs who
started to say, do we need an
inquiry into the historic behaviour
in Parliament in much the same way
that see with the church or other
institutions, and they are saying,
if that happens, how far back are we
going to go? I'm sure there is some
terrible behaviour that has never
come to light.
everybody saying the Sunday papers
will be interesting. We will see
what happens there.
on the Telegraph, it is this picture
here, what do you think about this?
Good PR on Mr Corbyn's part?
the bloke who didn't think it was
the right thing to do in the
election campaign to go on the One
He is now you're lovable
uncle, that amazing sort of makeover
that he's had. He looks comfortable.
He was never comfortable in these
situations before. One of the really
interesting things in the run-up to
the election was that when he was
asked about, will you still be
tending the allotment if you are
Prime Minister, and he said, of
course I were, everyone needs a
life, and I thought, that's a really
good answer, and lots of people
thought, that could have been a big
story, and actually people were
like, no, that sounds sensible, and
he has managed to find a way to do
this stuff in a way that he feels
comfortable with, which has
surprised me, because I thought he
would never look comfortable with
And yet when he is asked, he was
on his doorstep earlier, for
comments on including Kelvin Hopkins
in the Shadow Cabinet, he refused to
answer that, and yet a week earlier
he was saying, zero tolerance, zero
tolerance. So it's almost as if he
will only answer.
And they are old
friends, that is the suggestion.
therein lies the issue. It is going
back to where we started, these
relationships between old men are
not healthy. And that's it, it's the
old boys club, and it can be just as
much an old boys club in a trade
union background or Party meetings
as it is for older Tony and is. It
is suggesting that Rosie Winterton
queried the appointment when he was
made, when Mr Hopkins was made
Shadow culture Secretary.
is the point, a lot of women feel
like when they have raised these
things and said, hang on, then they
don't get listen to, and maybe
finally we are going to start
And what you think about
this argument where they say, we
didn't know. In any other workplace,
it is common sense, isn't it? And
you know you've done something
wrong, because a lot of this is
just, it was just a bit of banter.
Maybe people don't want to know.
is an easier life not knowing. And I
think that is what we are going to
find out, the lot of people had
heard rumours. But to be fair,
hearing a rumour about something is
not the same as knowing it.
of these allegations, we have all
seen versions of the list, some of
the things on that list work and is
-- were nonsense.
All the consensual
and none of our business.
A lot of
this is historical and it will be
interesting to see how far it goes.
The code of conduct will have to
come into place, but...
where we think the Linnes. What
constitutes a resigning offence? And
we sure that beset?
Let's stay with
the Cabot Telegraph, and UK
jihadists are all targets, says RAF
This is a Commodore who says,
if you pitch up in Iraq and Syria
fighting for Daesh then you are
valid to be targeted because you
know what you're signing up for. I
think many people, irrespective of
their political leanings, would
probably go along with that,
I think there is a
question of how on earth do you
derail the lies -- deradicalise
somebody who has gone out there.
There is an argument that people who
are very easily influenced at 18,
and frankly the efforts that go into
radicalising someone are enormous,
and if you start on picking that,
then actually you might have some
success, but I think I do understand
this argument, that if people have
chosen to travel to these countries,
then how do we really think we're
going to get them back.
It is an
issue which has become a significant
one clearly the government, how do
you deal? When these people do
return, what do you do? You can't
just, you have to find due cause to
lock them up, it isn't that easy.
And how can you seriously turn up in
Syria because you are naive now? We
have seen the horrors that Daesh
have committed, throwing people off
buildings, how could you not
And also, how are
you to know from 20,000 feet the
nationality of the people you are
dropping bombs on down below. You
may find subsequently that there was
a core of British jihadists, but you
are not going to know that from that
height, are you?
Let's turn to the
FT. Were you in the queues?
I have a
very broken phone, and I'm quite
happy with that. I find this utter
I am terrified
that my daughter will now be
demanding a new...
A $1000 phone,
that is madness, isn't it?
out of date overnight, don't they?
And I always feel that they make the
charges so rubbish, you have to keep
buying new ones.
I get through at
least five charges of year, because
I'm rubbish! I bend them over and
twist them, and I just...
I have had the same phone
for three years, I am rather proud
If you are Apple, this is
great news, because they haven't
seen these cues in recent years, and
suddenly the 60 minute expensive
phone has been good for the markets.
-- this extremely expensive phone.
And their main competition is in
Asia from the likes of Samsung, and
the Chinese in particular, a very
large market, are saying, we get
more for our money on the Samsung,
we don't want to pay all that for
the brand, yet a lot of Apple people
will pay just for the brand.
they sorted out the fact that doing
your work e-mails on an Apple phone
is rubbish. I miss my Blackberry.
You have a proper keyboard on those!
We should go back to proper phones.
I had that one that you could drop
in a beer glass.
But nearly $1000.
It is an incredible sum of money for
People are willing to pay
They needed some good
news, didn't they? Their share price
climbed as well to an all-time high,
12% rise in fourth-quarter revenues.
A net income of $10.7
billion. My goodness, there you go.
Can I have some, please?
Rosamund, thank you very much for
that. We await all the weekend
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Thank you to Martin Lipton
and Rosamund Urwin.