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Hello and welcome to our look ahead
to what the the papers will be
bringing us tomorrow.
With me are Charlie Wells,
Deputy Snapchat editor
at the Economist and the Huffington
reporter, Kate Forrester.
Welcome to you both. It was not long
ago to have been a reporter on the
Huffington Post was pretty out
It was quite new but not now!
What is a Snapchat editor?
and produce with a small team a
weekly edition on Snapchat's
Discover platform. The Economist has
been around for 174 years, Snapchat
for six and in the past few years
they have had a platform where
publishers can put their content, it
is an invite only ecosystem, and we
create video content, repurposed old
articles, write new pieces for the
platform and we see it as a great
way of getting our journalists have
helped to millions are particularly
young people who are consuming news
on their phones.
Does it bring them
to the more traditional forms of the
We definitely see this as
a long game. It is a nice gateway
for showing even people -- young
people who might not be familiar
with the economist who we are. It
would be great if eventually they
want to continue reading on the
website or subscribe to the
They always say that we're
to train children for jobs that
don't exist any more and I doubt
yours existed? Definitely not. Yours
Definitely not! It
has been such a fascinating
experience. It is a testament to the
Economist's willingness to try a new
I job did exist
when I was a school, let's hope it
stays around for a bit longer but
you never know! Thank you for that.
I hope you don't mind us having a
Tomorrow's front pages.
The Financial Times reports
the London Stock Exchange Group
is considering whether to publish
a dossier on the behaviour
of its chief executive
in defence of accusations
they forced him to resign.
The Times says Google has
made millions of pounds
in advertising from videos that
exploit young children on YouTube.
It also features prominently a photo
of Zimbabwe's president
Robert Mugabe emerging from house
arrest in Harare.
The i says a tax
on takeaway plastic,
like food boxes and coffee cups,
could be introduced
when the government announces
its budget next week.
The Daily Mirror reports
on a father's fight
to clear his name after he punched
an intruder in his home.
The Telegraph says
Europe is threatening
to withhold Britain's final rebate
payment of five billion euros
as part of negotiations
over the Brext Bill.
The Sun claims an exclusive
on the controversy
surrounding pornography found
on Damien Green's
computer at Westminster.
It says content is violent
and would have been illegal
if found a week later.
It also says it is unclear
who downloaded the material.
The Daily Mail has
the story of British
explorer Benedict Allen,
who was rescued from
a Papua New Guinea jungle
after going missing
on an expedition.
And the Guardian says parents
who divorce could be
denied access to their children
if they try to turn
one against the other.
Three stories connected to the
budget which of course is only a
matter of days away. Take away
plastic to be taxed, this is in
lured, things like single use cups
-- this is in the i.
It is such a
big part of life, everybody is used
to seeing it and it is quite a big
change. On paper it might seem quite
a big step but if you look at
similar measures that have been
taken in the past, the 5p tax on
plastic bags for example, when that
was brought in everybody thought
that was going to be a pain and to
be honest it has gone off without a
hitch. Everybody has that used to
it. You take your bags out shopping
and it has cut the number of plastic
bags being thrown away by a don't
know exactly how much but a lot I
believe. It is great news for
environmental campaigners who are
all delighted. But I think it'll
take a bit more than raising the
price of a cabal to be a successful
I suppose the difference is
that whilst you know you are going
shopping, you might take a bag with
you but if you are going to take
away, do you take a plate with you
the Miz it ties into this
interesting idea of nudges which are
taking off over the past few years
in behavioural economics.
Governments will try to set policies
that make people make a little
change, something manageable. The
exciting thing about this is that it
could perhaps raise people's
economic DAC -- ecological
consciousness. Thinking about the
impact of your plastic utensils you
might make other changes. I know
that these forks are causing a
problem, I should probably turn off
the lights as well and think about
the impacts of my consumption.
it is not just landfill, we are
seeing these videos of divers in the
sea and as far as you can look to
the horizon there is miles of
plastic bottles floating in the ward
and killing marine life.
really depressing and especially
with Blue Planet being on at the
moment, everybody is looking at how
beautiful the ocean is and how
fantastic all this marine life is
and it is obviously being choked by
tonnes of rubbish.
The Economist on
Snapchat actually did an edition on
We did an edition
on plastic and fascinatingly, there
has been research that there are new
forms of life for Ming in some of
these plastic colonies in the ocean.
-- forming. It seems we are entering
an age in which humans are changing
life on the planet significantly.
There was the famous experiment of
recording in industrial Britain
moths changing their wing patterns
to fit in with city walls. Murder
somebody will correct me and tell me
I have got my biology one -- no
doubt somebody will correct me. In
America you have brown paper bags
rather than plastic bags, don't you?
You can recycle bad but still the
recycling is going to take energy
resources as well so I think the
more people can cut down on this the
better. It speaks to this larger
problem of the delivery ecosystem in
places like London and New York,
places like China, everybody is
getting everything delivered.
Governments need to update policies
to manage this growing ecosystem.
You can buy something quite small
and it comes with all that
I ordered something
recently, I won't say where from, it
eventually came delivered to my home
in a sleeping bag! It is awful.
There was a story a couple of days
ago a woman who had ordered a pair
of tights or something and there was
about a mild slurp of cardboard
packaging that came with it. It's
crazy. -- a mile's worth of
The FT talks
about the budget. Hammond plunges
extra £5 billion for budget
spending. -- country is --
. This is houses those wishing debt
which has been reassigned.
kind of an accounting benefit which
the government has on its hands
right now. The hope is that this
budget will not be used for
political gain but actually to set
good growth orientated policy. We
all know the UK is entering a moment
of uncertainty. If I remember
correctly unemployment was up for
the first time in a while so one
would hope the government would use
this money to encourage growth
instead of trying to make up for
losses. But we still need extra
housing which is where the thinking
is this money might be spent.
encourage many more houses to be
built and that would steal a march
on what Labour have been criticising
the Tories for.
It would. I think
Phillip Hammond is in a bit of a
bind. He is under pressure from some
Cabinet ministers like Sajid Javid
who have said that we need tonnes
more investment in house building
and infrastructure. On the other
side he has a lot of Brexiteers who
are very much looking to hamstring
him for anything they can in this
budget and if he goes too far one
way he risks damaging this
reputation of fiscal responsibility
that he spent seven years
Can he not get around
that by saying that this money is no
longer on the books of the Treasury
or the Public accounts because it is
housing associations and they are
not part of the public sector?
guess he can. I just think he is in
a very precarious position,
especially given the disastrous
budget of last year with his U-turn
on national insurance for example.
He had to climb down in a matter of
days after the huge backlash. I
think he is under a lot of pressure
to get this right. Whether that will
come off for him remains to be seen.
Another story in the Independent.
Budget sector to deliver council
housing boost, local authorities who
have traditionally been responsible
for building council houses before
housing associations became so
prevalent, they are going to be
allowed to borrow.
I think they are
struggling so much that there
appears to be very little other
options for them on the table. For
local authorities it is not just
housing that is causing the issue it
is things like social care. They
have a budget gap of billions in the
coming years and I think something
has got to be freed up in order to
deliver these things.
That is why we
build them. We had Lord Adonis
talking about this arc between
Oxford and Cambridge and building
hundreds of thousands of homes that
would, according to his
calculations, generate huge growth
and prosperity and productivity.
That would be great. I am a renter,
I dream of owning a home, I don't
know I will ever be able to afford
it to anything the government can do
to make buying a home easier I would
be in favour of. Purely anecdotally
and I would love to get your
thoughts on this, I know that
millenials do want to own homes and
just as much as people of other
generations but I think there are
deeper issues that millenials worry
about. The dig economy for instance.
-- gig. There are other questions
they want to ask, will my job be
around in five years, will the
economy be open to trade and the
rest of the world? I would love to
see more of a focus on those things.
Housing is incredibly important that
you are trying to capture the
millenials vote, there are deeper
structural things to look at as
There is an awful lot of
uncertainty. We don't know what our
economy is going to look like in the
next year even, certainly the next
two years, post-Brexit. What does it
look like post-Brexit? Nobody is
able to give us a definitive answer
on that at the moment.
Is popular as
it may be with people who live in
that arc between Oxford and
Cambridge, if it really is going to
generate prosperity and jobs and
homes, that is home-grown, isn't it?
It doesn't depend on the rest of
Europe or the world.
Isn't it only like 7% of the land in
the UK is actually built on.
you fly over you realise how
unspoiled many paths are. That is
not to say that people want to carry
on spoiling those parts. But you
have to live somewhere. It is a
And it is a
difficult political game to play
because nobody wants to hear, we're
going to build loads of houses on
the Green Belt for example. But at
some point some bold decisions will
have to be made. There is an awful
lot of spare land that we have and I
think it could be utilised better.
It is about building the right kind
The right kind and the
infrastructure that can support
them. I am from California and I
have seen so many massive mansion
housing community is essentially
built in a desert. The hope is that
certainly to expand but to be spot
about it -- are smart about it.
the times, they say that Google is
making millions of pounds from
advertising around videos that we
fight immensely disturbing and we do
not understand why anybody would
want to make these and watch them.
These are some disgusting piece of
content. This story talks about a
seven-year-old girl bleeding from
the mouth and crying after losing a
tooth. You can't understand why
anybody would want to watch this
sort of thing. This is going to play
into the idea of a tech backlash
that we are starting to see. In the
financial crisis these large
companies almost seemed like
saviours, innovators who could
essentially do no wrong but now with
issues like content policing,
Russian meddling in social media
platforms, YouTube, Facebook,
Twitter, people are taking a more
Perhaps the things
that will concentrate the mind of
the company is that when advertisers
start withdrawing these adverts.
course and obviously our systems and
the way we deal with issues that
arise online have not quite caught
up with the speed of technology and
the growth of the Internet itself.
However, if you put up a song on
YouTube and you don't have the
copyright for it, it is taken down
within minutes if not seconds. They
are so hot on that. The idea that
these big tech giants could not
develop a system where they could
more easily tackle this extremist or
really horrible and distasteful
content, I'm not sure I buy it.
that is your business, you have got
to have that facility. Looking at
the Daily Telegraph, you did not
think you could get away without a
Brexit story? EU threat to withhold
Thatcher's rebate. This is the
rebate they have been heralding all
these years to get money back from
the fact that we contribute to the
EU. Why might it be withheld?
more wrangling over money. It is the
divorce bill. We cannot move forward
with any trade negotiations as we
know until the divorce Bill is
settled. It says here that senior
sources believe... It says
negotiations over the bill which the
EU sets at 60 billion are still not
settled if the UK would receive the
payment as part of a final
settlement when it leaves the EU in
March 2019. I don't know how much
this means to real people! We can
try to make it real. I'm looking at
it and obviously...
message I suppose that Britain is
not putting enough money on the
table and the EU is saying, if you
don't put enough money, we will keep
back the money you would have
expected to get?
that matters to an ordinary person
who is not bothered about the
machinations of all of this, maybe
the EU is doing what they have said
they always do and some people don't
like that, the fact that in some
people's views they are being mean
I guess I'm struggling to
tease out the new information here
because it is obviously more
financial wrangling. I think David
Davis has tried to claw back the
rhetoric a little bit with his
speech this week where he basically
said that the EU need to convert
might as well and you can't get
something for nothing but how much
of an effect is having, not sure
that's what it needs to compromise.
Just looking at this front page, it
looks like it's from 1980 to! I
can't imagine the last time the word
Thatcher was used in the third line
of a lead story.
It is the Daily
But it is playing into
readers emotions. Let's say you are
a Brexit supporter, which I'm not,
but if you are, you want to have a
very good negotiating tactic with
Brussels to try to get the best deal
you can also you need to stay
clear-headed, thinking about
Margaret Thatcher's rebate, which is
a small amount of money, is probably
going to distract you.
symbolic for a lot of people.
Let's finish with a nice dog story.
Get a dog and live longer. We knew
that having certain types of pets
was good for you but not quite as
What's not to like? It's a
lovely dog. I think there is
definitely something in that as an
animal lover and a pet owner.
can cut the risk of heart disease by
up to 36%.
I am not a pet owner, I
am a dog fan! I have heard that
somebody might be a cat fan.
I think you are one or
the other. If you had to come down?
We have the nasty as to cat in the
world but the sweetest dog! That is
it for tonight. Don't forget that
you can see the front pages of the
papers online on the BBC News
website which is there for you seven
days a week. If you missed the
programme any evening you can watch
it later on the iPlayer. Charlie and
Kate, thank you for coming in.
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