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That is all the sport. Now it is

time for the papers.

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Welcome to our look at what the

papers are bringing us today.

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With me are Katy Balls,

the political correspondent

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at the Spectator, and

the journalist, James Rampton.

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The Observer leads on the situation

in Zimbabwe, with a picture of one

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of the thousands of anti-Mugabe

demonstrators that lines the streets

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of Harare yesterday.

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The Mail on Sunday reports

on an apparent altercation

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between two Labour MPs

in the Commons chamber.

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The Sunday Express claims that

in Wednesday's Budget,

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the Chancellor will announce support

for Britain's tech industry,

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which could mean we'll

have driverless cars

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on our roads by 2021.

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The Sunday Telegraph also leads

on a pre-Budget announcement,

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reporting that nurses are in line

for a pay rise.

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And The Sunday Times says

that the Chancellor will use

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Wednesday's budget to announce plans

to build 300,000 homes every year

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So let's begin...

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Katie, do you want to kick off?

Yes,

it is the budget on Wednesday. We

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are all terribly excited. The Tories

are more worried about. They try to

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trail it with the weekend papers.

There appears to be good news.

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Nurses will finally get a pay rise.

The article does not say how big

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that pay rise will be. Presumably it

will be a real terms pay rise.

They

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want 3.9%?

Yes. If it is less, there

would be a big backlash. A change of

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June for Philip Hammond, who, a few

grow months ago, said public sector

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workers were overpaid. He appears to

be adopting a softer approach in a

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bid to win back voters from Labour.

He has got a tricky job?

He has. He

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has got 20 different ministers

coming to him saying, my department

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is most important. I have got three

children and they all want money and

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their claims are most important.

Not

billions? L!

No. He has an

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impossible job. He cannot meet all

their needs. Defence and housing on

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the agenda. The thing that is

concentrating his mind is the threat

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of winter strikes. The winter is

always a grim period for the NHS. We

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get stories about terrible pictures

of people on trolleys in A&E. It

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becomes a real political hot potato.

If he can mitigate against that of

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it by announcing an actual pay rise

for nurses, he will avoid a

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difficult winter for the NHS.

The

Health Secretary would have been

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asking for that. Sajid Javid was

asking for deeds, not action, when

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it comes to housing. There is a

story about housing?

Yes, Sajid

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Javid putting a lot of pressure on

the John Torode to do something

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about housing. He has come up with

something. They pledge for 300,000

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homes a year. I think the question

really is, is this radical enough? A

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lot of people even in the party,

never mind the country, probably

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want a higher number. The government

are trying to be realistic. We see

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government after government saying

they will do something about housing

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but never quite meet their targets.

To do this they will try to

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different things. Easing planning

laws. And also finding more money

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for it. But again, Sajid Javid has

wanted them to borrow to the hilt.

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Every government wants to stand up

and say, we solve the housing

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crisis. Easier said than done, isn't

it?

Absolutely. The vast majority of

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young people voted for Corbyn in the

summer. Young people are struggling

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in the housing crisis. One

interesting stat is there are 200

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zombie thousand and build

residential planning permissions in

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London alone. If you can find a

legal mechanism for activating those

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planning permissions, it would make

a huge addition to the housing

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crisis in London. He has some legal

mechanisms he wants to install as

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well as injecting money. It is

vital. The next generation is

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struggling.

It is a real problem.

Inevitably if you give to young

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people you are annoying older

voters?

Yes. It is difficult. I

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still around but I think that is one

of the things you can do. We saw

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Sajid Javid with the younger voters,

trying to appeal to them this week.

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He said, despite your thoughts in

the papers, the fact you cannot get

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on the housing ladder is not because

you eat too much avocado on toast.

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There is a perception that us

millennials data go on holiday now

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and then and we drink too much per

second. And actually, if you are

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saving for the deposit, it does seem

near impossible. I don't see how

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you're supposed to get there.

Anything they can do will help them

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with younger voters, and help them

to stay in power. The younger voters

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will become the main voters. The

Tories do well when you have

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property owners. They don't do well

when you don't.

They have to be

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decent properties as well?

They

have.

There has been quite a bit in

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the press about problems with

new-build housing. You need to build

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the houses but they have to be fit

for purpose?

UC garages in some

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parts of London going further insane

money. -- you see. You can't

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alienate the older voter. The older

voter traditionally votes heavily

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for the Tories. If there is an

element of so-called NIMBY is here,

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house honours, house honours worried

about their green belt land, he is

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in danger of alienating the very

people who are is core voters. That

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is a real difficulty.

And he is

Prime Minister potentially?

Yes. If

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they were speaking, maybe they could

sort it out!

Theresa May would not

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want to upset her constituents by

doing too much. That is the

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opposition Hammond will have to

face.

Maidenhead hasn't changed

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forever those years and it won't

because it is sort of set in stone.

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That is true. That will focus Mr

Hammond's mind.

He is looking

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towards younger voters. That in

terms of tech, there will be

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investment in technology that will

probably appeal to your people?!

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Yeah.

The avocado generation. I

don't trust them. They look

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suspicious to me. That defines me as

an old person!

We haven't got to the

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point of an avocado tax yet, so that

is OK. He is announcing in the

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express the money they are going to

put into technology to make sure

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that Britain is ahead in those

industries. The thing that is kind

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of catching everybody's attention is

the Hope to have driverless cars by

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2021. -- is the pledge. Making sure

Britain leads the way. It is quite

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hard. Electric cars, we have been

hearing for so long they were going

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to be the main car.

It takes a

little bit more to get my head

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around driverless cars.

Even

electricals, it has taken so long to

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get there. Driverless cars is like a

big step forward. If we are now

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getting to the point where electric

cars might reach our target, it is

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hard to see how driverless cars will

be ready. I believe in 2050 will be

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like, we're nearly there.

Jeremy

Clarkson has questioned them and I

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absolutely agree with him. I agree

with Jeremy Clarkson! My name is

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James Rampton and I must confess

that I agree with Jeremy Clarkson!

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He says that he has twice test

driven, or sat there on the M4 in a

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driverless car, and he claims both

times the car made a huge mistake

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which he had to rest -- rectify.

It

could have been fatal.

Did he

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programme it? If it was programmed

by Clarkson himself, it would've

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been like De Jim Carr! He is to the

head of oldie, if you can drive this

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car over a death road in Bolivia,

will buy one. Sit there with your

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hands folded and let it drive you

there with half the tyrant hanging

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over 1000 foot drop...

It sounds

like a good feature for his

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programme?

He has written quite a

good piece about it in the magazine.

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Potentially exciting along that

Cliff Road.

They trailed this in Las

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Vegas and within two hours it had

been involved in a crash. They

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blamed a human being. But you do

have to wonder.

I always say to

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people who are raving about the joys

of technology, have you seen the

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terminator? It is a very prescient

fable about the CIA and the Pentagon

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investing all the money in a

computer which eventually takes over

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the world. It destroys the human

race. I think there is a real...

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Stephen Hawking has said it is the

biggest threat to humanity,

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artificial intelligence. There is a

real danger we become so seduced by

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this that we forget about the human

element and we forget that

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ultimately it must be human beings

in charge or we are abrogating

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responsibility to human beings.

Let's look at the Observer. Is that

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right? Yes. Robert Maghaberry. --

Robert Maghaberry. Things moving on

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swiftly in Zimbabwe?

We have the

beginnings of a soft coup in the

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week. It was very calm. On the

streets when we worked out that

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McGarvey was to be overthrown, there

was no panic. Now it is stepping up

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a gear. It now seems like the crowds

are ready for him to go. They are

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beginning to celebrate. If he

doesn't chose to go, police believe,

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it could take a turn for the worst

This is an extraordinary picture on

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the front of the Observer.

This

woman on the grounds where Mugabe...

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She is now standing there in a hat,

hash tag, stepped down. This idea

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that it has united all generations

of society. There is a woman quoted

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in The Sunday Times whose husband

was a farmer who was beaten up by

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war veterans. She has been quoted as

saying, welcome to the happiest day

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of our lives. I am 67 and my kids

say I am acting like I am 17. She is

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so delighted. The war veterans are

behind this overthrow, and the

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military, and the tiny proportion of

white farmers still there. It shows

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the way in which for the first time

in his life he has united people

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with his departure.

We will move on

because we will have more on

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Zimbabwe through the morning. Page

13 of the Sunday Telegraph, my

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personal favourite story.

On News at

ten we used to end with a

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skateboarding dog. Now we have a

scooter in Monk.

Henry Wadsworth,

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83-year-olds.

The poor monks of

Ampleforth have lived in relative

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misery. They have leaky rooms. Their

windows don't shut properly. The

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pipes make a dreadful noise. They

have to queue for the bathroom. For

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the first time in more than a

century they're having a

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refurbishment. 58 months will be

treated to modern facilities. But

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being monks and very serious, they

are worried. They are saying, is an

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ensuite bathroom too much? Are we

baking our vows of simplicity? --

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Brett King. I do sympathise with

them. If you have had to queue for

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the bathroom in the morning, I live

with three daughters, so I have to

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queue for the bathroom all the time,

but they have to do it as part of

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their monkey 's existence.

Not only

do they have to consider ensuite

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bathrooms, but Molton Brown

products.

They have gone very ritzy!

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They have overstepped the mark.

They

are talking about how they are

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paying for this.

They are looking

for ways to fund raise the money for

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the refurbishment. They have done

their bit by saying some things they

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don't need. Monks have clutter, too.

Brilliant story. Almost out of time.

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Tell us about the last thing we are

going to look at. A Royal story.

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There must be armies of journalists

out there employed on Meghan Markle

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stories. You might possibly say this

is a bit tenuous. I am going to add

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to the EU mountain of Meghan Markle

stories. This is an Australian

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genealogist who has discovered that

a very distant relative of the

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girlfriend of Prince Harry was a

close confidant of Henry VIII but he

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was locked in the tower and

beheaded. That family's relationship

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with the Royal family has not always

been great but it is wonderful now.

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They will all live happily ever

after.

Maybe not something to bring

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up at the Christmas lights.

Thank you very much indeed. That is

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it for this hour.

You are coming back in an hour.

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