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That is all the sport. Now it is
time for the papers.
Welcome to our look at what the
papers are bringing us today.
With me are Katy Balls,
the political correspondent
at the Spectator, and
the journalist, James Rampton.
The Observer leads on the situation
in Zimbabwe, with a picture of one
of the thousands of anti-Mugabe
demonstrators that lines the streets
of Harare yesterday.
The Mail on Sunday reports
on an apparent altercation
between two Labour MPs
in the Commons chamber.
The Sunday Express claims that
in Wednesday's Budget,
the Chancellor will announce support
for Britain's tech industry,
which could mean we'll
have driverless cars
on our roads by 2021.
The Sunday Telegraph also leads
on a pre-Budget announcement,
reporting that nurses are in line
for a pay rise.
And The Sunday Times says
that the Chancellor will use
Wednesday's budget to announce plans
to build 300,000 homes every year
So let's begin...
Katie, do you want to kick off?
it is the budget on Wednesday. We
are all terribly excited. The Tories
are more worried about. They try to
trail it with the weekend papers.
There appears to be good news.
Nurses will finally get a pay rise.
The article does not say how big
that pay rise will be. Presumably it
will be a real terms pay rise.
Yes. If it is less, there
would be a big backlash. A change of
June for Philip Hammond, who, a few
grow months ago, said public sector
workers were overpaid. He appears to
be adopting a softer approach in a
bid to win back voters from Labour.
He has got a tricky job?
He has. He
has got 20 different ministers
coming to him saying, my department
is most important. I have got three
children and they all want money and
their claims are most important.
No. He has an
impossible job. He cannot meet all
their needs. Defence and housing on
the agenda. The thing that is
concentrating his mind is the threat
of winter strikes. The winter is
always a grim period for the NHS. We
get stories about terrible pictures
of people on trolleys in A&E. It
becomes a real political hot potato.
If he can mitigate against that of
it by announcing an actual pay rise
for nurses, he will avoid a
difficult winter for the NHS.
Health Secretary would have been
asking for that. Sajid Javid was
asking for deeds, not action, when
it comes to housing. There is a
story about housing?
Javid putting a lot of pressure on
the John Torode to do something
about housing. He has come up with
something. They pledge for 300,000
homes a year. I think the question
really is, is this radical enough? A
lot of people even in the party,
never mind the country, probably
want a higher number. The government
are trying to be realistic. We see
government after government saying
they will do something about housing
but never quite meet their targets.
To do this they will try to
different things. Easing planning
laws. And also finding more money
for it. But again, Sajid Javid has
wanted them to borrow to the hilt.
Every government wants to stand up
and say, we solve the housing
crisis. Easier said than done, isn't
Absolutely. The vast majority of
young people voted for Corbyn in the
summer. Young people are struggling
in the housing crisis. One
interesting stat is there are 200
zombie thousand and build
residential planning permissions in
London alone. If you can find a
legal mechanism for activating those
planning permissions, it would make
a huge addition to the housing
crisis in London. He has some legal
mechanisms he wants to install as
well as injecting money. It is
vital. The next generation is
It is a real problem.
Inevitably if you give to young
people you are annoying older
Yes. It is difficult. I
still around but I think that is one
of the things you can do. We saw
Sajid Javid with the younger voters,
trying to appeal to them this week.
He said, despite your thoughts in
the papers, the fact you cannot get
on the housing ladder is not because
you eat too much avocado on toast.
There is a perception that us
millennials data go on holiday now
and then and we drink too much per
second. And actually, if you are
saving for the deposit, it does seem
near impossible. I don't see how
you're supposed to get there.
Anything they can do will help them
with younger voters, and help them
to stay in power. The younger voters
will become the main voters. The
Tories do well when you have
property owners. They don't do well
when you don't.
They have to be
decent properties as well?
There has been quite a bit in
the press about problems with
new-build housing. You need to build
the houses but they have to be fit
UC garages in some
parts of London going further insane
money. -- you see. You can't
alienate the older voter. The older
voter traditionally votes heavily
for the Tories. If there is an
element of so-called NIMBY is here,
house honours, house honours worried
about their green belt land, he is
in danger of alienating the very
people who are is core voters. That
is a real difficulty.
And he is
Prime Minister potentially?
they were speaking, maybe they could
sort it out!
Theresa May would not
want to upset her constituents by
doing too much. That is the
opposition Hammond will have to
Maidenhead hasn't changed
forever those years and it won't
because it is sort of set in stone.
That is true. That will focus Mr
He is looking
towards younger voters. That in
terms of tech, there will be
investment in technology that will
probably appeal to your people?!
The avocado generation. I
don't trust them. They look
suspicious to me. That defines me as
an old person!
We haven't got to the
point of an avocado tax yet, so that
is OK. He is announcing in the
express the money they are going to
put into technology to make sure
that Britain is ahead in those
industries. The thing that is kind
of catching everybody's attention is
the Hope to have driverless cars by
2021. -- is the pledge. Making sure
Britain leads the way. It is quite
hard. Electric cars, we have been
hearing for so long they were going
to be the main car.
It takes a
little bit more to get my head
around driverless cars.
electricals, it has taken so long to
get there. Driverless cars is like a
big step forward. If we are now
getting to the point where electric
cars might reach our target, it is
hard to see how driverless cars will
be ready. I believe in 2050 will be
like, we're nearly there.
Clarkson has questioned them and I
absolutely agree with him. I agree
with Jeremy Clarkson! My name is
James Rampton and I must confess
that I agree with Jeremy Clarkson!
He says that he has twice test
driven, or sat there on the M4 in a
driverless car, and he claims both
times the car made a huge mistake
which he had to rest -- rectify.
could have been fatal.
programme it? If it was programmed
by Clarkson himself, it would've
been like De Jim Carr! He is to the
head of oldie, if you can drive this
car over a death road in Bolivia,
will buy one. Sit there with your
hands folded and let it drive you
there with half the tyrant hanging
over 1000 foot drop...
like a good feature for his
He has written quite a
good piece about it in the magazine.
Potentially exciting along that
They trailed this in Las
Vegas and within two hours it had
been involved in a crash. They
blamed a human being. But you do
have to wonder.
I always say to
people who are raving about the joys
of technology, have you seen the
terminator? It is a very prescient
fable about the CIA and the Pentagon
investing all the money in a
computer which eventually takes over
the world. It destroys the human
race. I think there is a real...
Stephen Hawking has said it is the
biggest threat to humanity,
artificial intelligence. There is a
real danger we become so seduced by
this that we forget about the human
element and we forget that
ultimately it must be human beings
in charge or we are abrogating
responsibility to human beings.
Let's look at the Observer. Is that
right? Yes. Robert Maghaberry. --
Robert Maghaberry. Things moving on
swiftly in Zimbabwe?
We have the
beginnings of a soft coup in the
week. It was very calm. On the
streets when we worked out that
McGarvey was to be overthrown, there
was no panic. Now it is stepping up
a gear. It now seems like the crowds
are ready for him to go. They are
beginning to celebrate. If he
doesn't chose to go, police believe,
it could take a turn for the worst
This is an extraordinary picture on
the front of the Observer.
woman on the grounds where Mugabe...
She is now standing there in a hat,
hash tag, stepped down. This idea
that it has united all generations
of society. There is a woman quoted
in The Sunday Times whose husband
was a farmer who was beaten up by
war veterans. She has been quoted as
saying, welcome to the happiest day
of our lives. I am 67 and my kids
say I am acting like I am 17. She is
so delighted. The war veterans are
behind this overthrow, and the
military, and the tiny proportion of
white farmers still there. It shows
the way in which for the first time
in his life he has united people
with his departure.
We will move on
because we will have more on
Zimbabwe through the morning. Page
13 of the Sunday Telegraph, my
personal favourite story.
On News at
ten we used to end with a
skateboarding dog. Now we have a
scooter in Monk.
The poor monks of
Ampleforth have lived in relative
misery. They have leaky rooms. Their
windows don't shut properly. The
pipes make a dreadful noise. They
have to queue for the bathroom. For
the first time in more than a
century they're having a
refurbishment. 58 months will be
treated to modern facilities. But
being monks and very serious, they
are worried. They are saying, is an
ensuite bathroom too much? Are we
baking our vows of simplicity? --
Brett King. I do sympathise with
them. If you have had to queue for
the bathroom in the morning, I live
with three daughters, so I have to
queue for the bathroom all the time,
but they have to do it as part of
their monkey 's existence.
do they have to consider ensuite
bathrooms, but Molton Brown
They have gone very ritzy!
They have overstepped the mark.
are talking about how they are
paying for this.
They are looking
for ways to fund raise the money for
the refurbishment. They have done
their bit by saying some things they
don't need. Monks have clutter, too.
Brilliant story. Almost out of time.
Tell us about the last thing we are
going to look at. A Royal story.
There must be armies of journalists
out there employed on Meghan Markle
stories. You might possibly say this
is a bit tenuous. I am going to add
to the EU mountain of Meghan Markle
stories. This is an Australian
genealogist who has discovered that
a very distant relative of the
girlfriend of Prince Harry was a
close confidant of Henry VIII but he
was locked in the tower and
beheaded. That family's relationship
with the Royal family has not always
been great but it is wonderful now.
They will all live happily ever
Maybe not something to bring
up at the Christmas lights.
Thank you very much indeed. That is
it for this hour.
You are coming back in an hour.
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