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Hello and welcome to our look ahead

to what the the papers will be

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bringing us tomorrow.

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With me are the political

commentator

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Jo-Anne Nadler and the campaigner

and broadcaster, David Akinsanya.

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Tomorrow's front pages.

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The Telegraph features

a picture from today's

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memorial for the victims

of the Grenfell Tower fire,

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six months after 71 people

were killed in the blaze.

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The Times front page also reflects

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the Grenfell Tower memorial service

at St Paul's, as well as reporting

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the collapse of a rape

trial after police failed

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to reveal evidence.

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The Daily Mirror reports that

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Theresa May could be headed

for a second Parliamentary

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defeat on Brexit,

following last night's vote.

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The i front cover also predicts that

Brexit defeat could be

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looming for the Prime Minister.

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Disney's deal

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for Rupert Murdoch's 21st

Century Fox assets is the lead story

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on the Financial Times.

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The deal between Disney

and 21st Century Fox

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also leads the Guardian's front

page, as well as coverage of

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the grief of the families affected

by the Grenfell Tower tragedy.

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And the Metro reports

that homelessness is up

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65% in seven years, according

to government figures.

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Don't forget you can see the front

pages of the papers online

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on the BBC News website.

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A lot of the front pages feature

pictures from that moving service at

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St Paul's Cathedral six months after

the Grenfell disaster. Also there is

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the grief people are going through,

you can see that clearly. The tears.

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Which is to be expected. The problem

is, I think, this is going to go on

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for such a long time. When we have

inquiries, events like this that

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happen in this country, I think

people who live those events often

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find it is dragged out, it's long,

it really laborious process. I just

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hope... They talk about it being

over a year before we start getting

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any of the evidence together. I

think it's not good enough and I

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think... I covered the Hillsborough

disaster, look how long it took to

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sort that out and for the truth to

come out after we found the lose of

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of people were lying.

The community

need answers quickly. Some of these

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families will be in hotels over

Christmas, some in temporary

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accommodation. This really isn't

good enough. This is what I'm

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thinking about today.

It's a race so

many different question for society.

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Absolutely, you used the word

disaster. I'm pleased to see the

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Guardian used the word catastrophe

because it was on such a scale that

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it's difficult, really, to report it

without falling into cliche. The

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pictures on the front pages today

are very... At a very human level,

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concentrating on people's grief. We

should remember in the timeline of

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suffering, something as horrendous

as this, six months is really very

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little. I take your point,

absolutely, about people wanting

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answers. But inevitably if those

answers are going to be thoroughly

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researched and the process is going

to be done properly, it may take

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some time.

Let's look at the Times

front page. They also have a picture

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reflecting the Grenfell service. One

of the interesting stories on the

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front page is an Brexit. After that

Commons defeat, Theresa May is now

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expected to back away from plans to

write the Brexit date into law to

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avoid a second defeat in the Commons

next week, which would clearly be

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very damaging for her government, to

have another Commons defeat.

Yet,

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but from somebody looking from the

outside it looks like MS. I don't

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understand why, for instance, Tory

MPs should be... We've heard about

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asking for them to be sacked. I

think it's ridiculous. How do you

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sack an MP anyway, you said that

earlier. I don't know, I just think

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it's a terrible mess.

She was saying

today she's won 35 out of 36 Brexit

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wrote in the Commons.

Basically, she

said to keep calm and carry on,

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essentially. And stressed the fact

the majority of the votes have

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passed. That's not to say emblematic

Lee what happened yesterday was

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significant, though I think it's

much more about the emblematic

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element of it than the actual

detail, which was pretty arcane. I

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think this story in The Times, in

some ways, it is more significant if

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she is to drop the suggestion there

should be an absolute day, March 29,

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2019, that we exit. I think it's

more of a concession in a way than

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what was done yesterday.

It does

show how after the election...

It is

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vulnerability.

That fragile

majority.

When you have to go

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through point by point, as we

welcome all these issues and Brexit,

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then that is the vulnerability of

the government. I think it would

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probably be shrewd if the Times is

right about this, then it's probably

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a shrewd move under the

circumstances.

David, back to your

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point about the way those rebel MPs

have been treated, the 11th Remain

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MPs, the express front page says

their readers have joined cause to

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sack Tory rebels who sided with

Labour. Sack rebel MPs and get on

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with Brexit, that is the express

front page.

I don't know how you

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sack an MP, I thought you had to be

deselected.

They have to be voted

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out by the public.

This is total

hyperbole and doesn't really help

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the express to move towards a clean

Brexit any time soon. Ramping up

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these divisions. One of their

complaint is the MPs who won, rebel

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MPs, were seen celebrating with a

glass of white wine in a Commons

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bar.

Celebrating or perhaps soothing

their wounds, who knows?

There was a

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lot of talk about how the wits have

been very hard line against rebels.

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Allegations of bullying and so one.

Yes. There always is that kind of

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talk when things go to the wire like

listed. Whatever they did, it wasn't

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successful enough.

The mirror, let's

go on to that. Still on the Theresa

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May theme. May Day is their

headline. They are combining... The

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Prime Minister on the brink, they

say. Not only Brexit, but homeless

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children up 70%. More people in A&E.

Knife crime by the young up 16%. A

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second person Brexit defeat next

week, which we've already talked

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about.

All of the papers are loaded

with their own politics. At a time

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like this they will drop. Don't

forget, as viewers and people

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watching the news, we've been

overloaded with the big issues but

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there are a lot of issues underneath

which I think are being ignored.

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Homelessness is a huge problem.

Is

that because of Brexit?

I think

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because Brexit it's taken the

headlines, a lot of drama it.

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Political people always wanting to

bring up the differences and so one.

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I think these other things have been

neglected and it's right for the

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mirror to have picked up on some of

those things, they are the things

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that affect us.

Homelessness is the

front page, since that was

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mentioned. In the Metro.

Homelessness up by 65% in seven

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years, a pretty harsh statistic.

Yes, a horrific statistic without

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doubt.

It kind of links back to

Grenfell because I think it's about

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social Housing and the fact we

haven't been providing it. I know

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lots of people in London really

suffering, people working we've got

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proper jobs, finding it really

difficult to keep up with the rent.

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Landlords almost out of control at

the moment with the amount of rent

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they can charge, and the very little

they are doing for housing. And

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benefits changes have meant a lot of

people who were on benefits have not

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had their landlords paid. It used to

be that you would pay them directly

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but now because of the changes one

isn't getting to landlords, more

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people are being made homeless.

Do

you blame the media for not

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highlighting those issues enough?

Clearly Brexit is crucial to the

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future of this country, isn't it,

and it has to be disgusting huge

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detail every day.

That's what David

is saying, there has been a big

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preoccupation on some of the

parliamentary dramas rather than the

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substance of the issues. Across some

of the newspapers perhaps.

All of

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those issues are political and can

be solved, but completely, but can

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be helped with politicians backing

and people concentrating on those

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issues. Knife crime in London is a

huge problem as well. I want to see

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that discussed.

We know the Prime

Minister herself is very much

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committed herself personally to the

issue of housing, improving housing

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and homelessness. We've yet to... A

big budget decision was made only

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two or three weeks ago in the

budget. Little was said about

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changing planning laws, which is

where a lot of these things come to

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bear.

Prime Minister on the brink,

they said, is she on the brink? She

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was cheered by European leaders in

Brussels, we gather, for getting

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through phase one of the

negotiations on to phase two.

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Considering where she was after the

election, some people say she could

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only survive a few more days. She's

still here.

She is still bad, the

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longer she is there the more likely

she is to hang on until we go

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through to another election and the

normal course of events. I'd be more

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concerned about her future if the

panellist on the brink was in one of

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the other papers other than the

mirror. You have to feel for her

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because only a week ago she had a

breakthrough on Brexit. Looking at

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how we felt she seemed to physically

look like the weight had lifted off

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her shoulders. It lasted just a few

days.

That is the life of a Prime

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Minister. Financial Times, this

extraordinary deal where Murdoch and

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Disney... Murdoch, the man who has

acquired and built his empire,

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built, built about, now seems to be

selling it off.

He's quoted as

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saying he's pivoting at a pivotal

moment, which appealed to me. It

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suggested he is acting in reaction

to changes in how we consume media

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and entertainment.

Which is

changing.

Absolutely, through

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streaming and Internet, rather than

the more traditional formats. Which

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20th Century Fox were at the

forefront.

David, it's a fascinating

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story.

It is. He still says those

people who know him know he is a

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news man with a competitive spirit.

I don't know where put that now. It

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looks like most of the new stuff is

going to go.

The last story we will

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look at is the Telegraph. An

extraordinary story. It claims the

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Russians may be posing a threat to

Britain's Internet access and trade

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because of undersea communication

cables vulnerable to the Russian

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navy. A warning from the head of the

Armed Forces in the UK. Suggesting

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that Russians are going to be

cutting our cables.

Air Chief

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Marshal Stuart Piech. I never

imagined that. I saw some thing

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about it in the news a few weeks

ago. He is buying for money, he is

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lobbying for money.

I think that's

why it's coming back up.

The fact of

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the matter is there are these cables

under the sea. We haven't got the

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right equipment to be able to...

Because of the cuts and

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everything... He's pushing that as a

way of getting more resources for

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the armed services.

He argues

exactly that, the Navy doesn't have

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the appropriate... Planes and ships

that are capable of detecting a

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particular type of submarine...

Cable cutters.

We're smiling about

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it but it could potentially be a

very, very dangerous significant

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issue. A way of undermining how we

do business, how we communicate with

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each other. It's interesting they

are being so explicit about saying

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danger comes from Russia.

Not to

sound facetious but if they were

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cutting our tables, couldn't we cut

fares?

There is a lot of information

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that flows over those cables. If we

think about what they were prepared

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to do with the Internet during the

elections, maybe it is something. It

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might be that we're giving the

Russians an idea because... Do we

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know they are planning this?

I don't

think we would be likely to know

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sitting here this evening. I think I

would be prepared to take the advice

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of the air Chief Marshall on this

one.

Thank you for sharing your

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thoughts with us. Good to see you

both. That is it from the papers,

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you can see the front pages online

on our BBC News website. Therefore

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you seven days a week. If you

happened to miss our programme, you

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can watch it later on iPlayer.

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Thank you Jo-Anne Nadler

and David Akinsanya.

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Goodbye.

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