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up in a moment here on BBC News it

is the Papers. Thanks for watching.

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Hello and welcome to our look ahead

to what the the papers will be

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bringing us tomorrow.

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With me are John Rentoul,

who's Chief Political Commentator

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at The Independent, and Lucy Fisher,

Senior Political Correspondent

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at The Times.

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Tomorrow's front pages...

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Starting with the Financial Times

which leads with the new leader in

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South Africa at seeing his election

threatens Jacob Zuma's grip on

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power. The Times has the same story

which also carries a picture of

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today's train crash in the US. The

Guardian carries a warning from the

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EU's chief Brexit negotiator saying

Britain cannot expect a special deal

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for the City of London as Theresa

May hopes to begin talks on the

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trade agreement. The ISS the NHS is

facing a record number of staff

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vacancies. The Metro highlights an

admission that women are working for

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the Government are being paid up to

nearly 17% less than their male

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colleagues. The Daily Express

reports scientific research that

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suggests an active social life will

the risk of developing diabetes. The

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daily Mirror says up to 3200 Toys

"R" Us staff are facing the sack

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over Christmas with business close

to collapse. And the sun says the

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Royal Navy's new £3.1 billion

aircraft carrier has a massive leak.

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The Navy have told them tonight it

is scheduled for repair and sea

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trials programme will not be

affected. Let's begin and start with

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the story on the front page of the

Metro about Whitehall's gender pay

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gap exposed. Lots of talk at the BBC

about the gender pay gap, what's

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that saying about Whitehall?

There

is an 11% gender pay gap across

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Whitehall concentrated more

particularly in some departments,

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transport is the worst with 17% gap

in salaries, even worse with

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bonuses, 25% higher for men. It

breaks my heart and makes me feel

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frustrated and annoyed that yet

again we are having to talk about

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the situation, but it is a good

thing the data is being reported and

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hopefully bringing back into the

light will change things.

There is a

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quote from somebody from the Fawcett

Society which campaigns for women's

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rights saying that women are

overrepresented in lower paid civil

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service jobs and underrepresented...

That is the main explanations of the

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gap. It is not so much women are

being paid less for doing the same

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sort of jobs, it is that they tend

to have the less well-paid job. I'd

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remember the Cabinet Secretary

Jeremy Heywood was proud of the fact

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that half of all Whitehall

departments had a female permanent

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secretary. I think it has fallen

back since then. Some progress has

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been made recently in breaking into

the top jobs. For women. But there

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hasn't been a woman Cabinet

Secretary yet.

No, no, indeed. Let's

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move onto the front page of the

Guardian, they've got an interview

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with the EU's Brexit negotiator and

he's dropped a bit of a grenade on

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an important day for Theresa May.

Theresa May has hosted the first

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Brexit War committee, ten Key

Cabinet ministers have spoke about

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their vision for the trade deal and

they hope the UK can get with the

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EU. Michel Barnier have come out and

said that under no circumstances is

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the UK going to get financial

services as a bolt on to a trade

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deal, services make up 80% of the

UK's economy. Just having free trade

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and goods is no good for us. I think

we need to take his point of view

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with a pinch of salt. The EU 27

member states at the beginning of

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this process are speaking about what

they want, he is going and hard

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which is to be expected. The mood

music I am hearing coming out of

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Brussels is that there is a lot of

concern among the EU 27 that the UK

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if it was cast adrift and have the

ability to use state aid, that could

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be pretty disastrous for some of the

sectors like the rest of the EU.

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There will be more compromised than

is being suggested here.

Absolutely.

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If this is a negotiation, he's

setting out his position, David

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Davis has set out the UK position

which is that they want a Canada

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deal, which is mostly goods, and we

want to add things to that. Michel

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Barnier says you can add justice on

defence and criminal cooperation,

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but you can't add financial

services. We will see about that. We

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British do like to beat ourselves up

about what a terrible negotiating

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position we have. It is a weak

position. But Theresa May achieved a

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lot in the first stage of the

negotiations and let's wait and see

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what compromise can be reached on

this.

Let's go on to the Financial

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Times which has Cyril Ramaphosa's

victory in the ANC election, the ANC

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leadership election today. Lucy

Fisher, the Financial Times

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concentrates on the threat that he

now poses to Jacob Zuma and Jacob

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Zuma's position. That's right. He

ran against Jacob Zuma's ex-wife,

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the candidate that Jacob Zuma

supporters, an interesting dynamic.

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This is the story I am fascinated

by! Fancy having your ex-wife as

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your candidate to succeed you.

But

the paper suggests that Jacob Zuma

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might then have expected a certain

immunity from legal follow-ups given

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various corruption...

It depends how

he gets on with his ex-wife.

And

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whether he has dote on her if she

tries to sink him, maybe he will try

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and think her. It is interesting the

way this news Cyril Ramaphosa

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winning the presidency today, cheers

in the conference call, but not an

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entirely clear-cut picture because

Jacob Zuma's allies were elected as

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deputy president and Secretary

General of the part are also Jacob

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Zuma allies.

The civil war is going

to go on. I should call it civil

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war, because there has been violence

is another pair in the past, but the

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ANC is bitterly divided and this was

a very divisive contest. Only one by

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2500 votes to 2200 5000. It was very

close. After a lot of recount and so

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one. This is obviously not going to

be the end of the story.

Let's go

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onto the front page of the

Independent which has got that

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startling image from the united

states of this disaster which is

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still unfolding. We know there have

been fatalities but we don't know

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how many yet.

Six is the latest

figure that I've seen, but possibly

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more. A train coming off the tracks

at 80 miles an hour is not good. If

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it's on a bridge over a motorway,

that's even worse. Those pictures

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look horrible, don't they?

Donald

Trump's reaction telling his first

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impulse was to tweet about how this

dreadful carnage was relevant to

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infrastructure policies he's trying

push through. He followed up with a

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tweet expressing his somebody's

after there was backlash about that

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saying that his thoughts and prayers

were with the victims. Unsurprising

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the US president has tried to

capitalise on this tragedy.

Another

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interesting feature about it is this

was the first passenger train to go

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along this line. It was the first

joining it was taking.

The inaugural

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run of the route between Seattle and

Portland down the West Coast.

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Terribly sad scenes. The other story

on the front page of the

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Independent, NHS jobs crisis leaves

100,000 reels vacant.

This is a

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reminder that one of the big

domestic stories of the next couple

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of years properly is going to be the

state of the NHS and whether it can

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be turned around. The NHS have been

under such a squeeze for so long.

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They are spending more in real terms

on the NHS every year, but the rate

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of increase is nothing like it was

under new Labour and the strain is

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beginning to tell. That's going to

be a political problem for the

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Government.

It is an extraordinary

figure, 100,000 reels. Let's go to

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the front page of the daily Mirror.

Toys "R" Us on the brink. A cheerful

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Christmas story!

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My first boss warned me that. This

is a new category, it is sad on the

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eve of Christmas that a toy company

like Toys "R" Us would be making

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profit, it turns out it is £500,000

in debt.

After all the money I have

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spent there!

You echo my sentiment

entirely! But presumably this is

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again online trading...

I remember

moving to the Toys "R" Us website

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many years ago after going to the

actual shops and the website wasn't

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great. There is just so much

competition. You can buy toys from

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Amazon. We are not allowed to

mention other brands, are we! Online

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shopping is a highly competitive

business and Toys "R" Us have

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obviously failed to take their

competitive advantage into the

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online world.

I am just really quite

devastated that 3200 employees are

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facing the sack just before

Christmas.

It is sad. It is very sad

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indeed. The front page of the times

has a different sort of story,

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loosely linked to children. White

children get a taste for

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punishment...

Lucy knows all about

the Times stories.

This is an

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interesting story, it is the age at

which you derive some sort of

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pleasure from seeing others

punished. Scientists also think it's

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the age at which you have a sense of

fair play coming into practice.

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They've carried out experiments with

children were children have been

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able to sacrifice a token for which

they have been given a sticker in

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order to see a bad puppet being

beaten up. It is a rather convoluted

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experiment! There is a moral in

there somewhere.

It is amazing that

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the whole nation's schools are run

on the basis children want to have

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stickers.

But they might just want

to look at puppets. Children like to

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pull legs of spiders, they can be

quite cruel. I'm surprised to see

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sadists at six years old.

Six years

old is quite late. For a sense of

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fair play and justice, I would

imagine three-year-old can scream

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that things aren't fair. There you

go.

It's three times, it must be

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true. Let's go to the front page of

the express which has perhaps my

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favourite headline of the year,

socialising can beat diabetes.

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Canet? A social life low the risk of

developing diabetes. -- lowers the

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risk. I will have to get some people

rant over Christmas.

It makes sense

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to me in a certain way, you are

going out, you are in a bit more

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active. If you enjoy fruit in a

convivial way with friends, you are

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possibly going to be posing a bit

more, being a bit more moderate for

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the sake of manners, a better

appearance rather than sort of... I

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can be a bit more greedy if I'm

sitting on my couch with my takeaway

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pizza.

There is some common sense in

that. You don't look convinced,

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John?

I'm wondering about causation

and correlation, whether if you are

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healthy you are more likely to have

an active social life anyway. I

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haven't read the small print of the

science. It is in the journal BMC

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Public health whatever that is. I

haven't had a chance to study it in

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detail.

You don't look like you're

going to.

I am very taken by the

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picture... I am very puzzled by why

the Duchess of Cambridge, what is

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the

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the Duchess of Cambridge, what is

the new look? She looks exactly the

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same as before.

You haven't been

paying attention.

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That's it for The Papers tonight.

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Don't forget you can see the front

pages of the papers online

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on the BBC News website.

pages of the papers online

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It's all there for you - seven days

a week at bbc.co.uk/papers,

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and if you miss the programme any

evening, you can watch it

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later on BBC iPlayer.

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Thank you, John Rentoul

and Lucy Fisher.

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Goodbye.

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