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That is all from us and coming up in

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a moment, the Papers.

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Hello and welcome to our look ahead

to what the the papers will be

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bringing us tomorrow.

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With me are Lucy Fisher,

Senior Political Correspondent

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at The Times and Paul Johnson,

Deputy Editor of The Guardian.

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Tomorrow's front pages.

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The Telegraph reports the government

will have banks freeze the assets

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of illegal immigrants.

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The paper says that as part of a

plan to force them out of the

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country.

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It also carries a picture

of Bethany Walker who died

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after becoming ill at home -

initially from flu symptoms which

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later developed into pneumonia.

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They on a letter expressing

intolerable conditions endangering

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lives.

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The Express is warning readers that

a second EU referendum could be

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on the cards after comments made

by Nigel Farage this morning.

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The daily Mirror also has this with

them saying he wants a second

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referendum. Their own polling shows

remain would win by 55-45.

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The Times talking about a daring

plot to hide royal gems in a biscuit

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tin in the grounds of windsor castle

during the second world war

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to ensure they didn't fall

into the hands of Nazis.

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And the Guardian has news that the

parliamentary cook has only just

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been given leave to stay in the UK

after living here for 50 years. The

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Daily Mail has news that President

Trump is planning to cancel his trip

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to the United Kingdom over fears

they want to be made welcome. Let's

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get off, we have got this story in

the Times, an interesting story

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about the threat of a merger between

the Royal Marines and the

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paratroopers and attempts to cut the

Armed Forces by up to 14,000 troops.

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This will cause a lot of uproar, the

Army is already 14,000 short of its

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82,000 target. There is a £20

billion shortfall in the budget over

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the next decade, by firemen tested

how this is coming out. He has been

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tipped as a future leadership

contender and he has been banging

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his drum and it'll be interesting to

see if he gets his way.

And he won't

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want big cuts on his watch?

Three

things about this story, one, it is

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a good story, process in action and

real-life politics. It says troops

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would leave the smallest army since

before Napoleon. We don't fight

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battles in Europe using squares and

cavalry so I don't think that

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matters, but you could have had the

headline, merger threat to Philip

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Hammond because that is really what

the story is about. Is Gavin

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Williamson playing a crafty game?

The story is of backbenchers getting

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really irritated about this and

Philip Hammond has another person

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knocking on his door but more money.

Somebody it seems won't be knocking

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on the board of Downing Street is

Donald Trump according to the Daily

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Mail. You can phone that visit which

would've been hugely controversial,

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and I would have been big protest if

they came.

I wouldn't be surprised.

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He said he was still planning to

come but Donald Trump not keeping

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his word wouldn't necessarily raise

my eyebrows. We know what he is

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like, he would be faced with huge

protests. He had already scaled down

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the ambitions this year for a huge

state visit to a more low-key trip

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to open the embassy. I am not

surprised. He could have tagged onto

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his trip to Davos for the World

Economic Forum but I think this is

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right on the money.

Presumably he

will come sooner or later?

It has

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been a long running things. Went to

the Zamir scuttled over to

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Washington to be the first leader to

hold his hand on the trip, a lot of

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Brexit ears are saying, he is the

personal embodiment of a new

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relationship, the special

relationship recreated, then use

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that it had to be scaled down

because he would be uncomfortable,

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and news now that he's not at all.

We as a newspaper said he shouldn't

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be banned but the only people sad

about this will be a lot of

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policemen missing out on an overtime

bonanza is interesting story in the

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Telegraph, a 14-year-old girl

winning a pay-out from Facebook

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about revenge pawn.

This could have

a big implications for social media

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and their responsibility over what

is put out on their platforms. It is

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a horrifying story, the girl was 14

years old and pictures of her naked

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repeatedly published on Facebook as

revenge by people known to have. The

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really interesting thing is as you

say, how this can open the

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floodgates for a raft of similar

claims. With Facebook but also

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tested commitment to security and

jihad a content, this is the battle

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line on which it is fighting and it

has so far been quite unwilling to

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help and cut down on these kinds of

fences and outrages, not willing to

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spend the money for people to go

through posts to rely on faulty

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algorithms. There seems to be a

general mood among individuals and

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governments that social media need

to take a bit more responsibility

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for what is on their platform?

That

is right and Facebook in particular

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we published last year some Facebook

files which had the Bible in the

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sense of how moderators should work,

and you could see how capricious it

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was for the small number of

moderators to make snap decisions in

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real small-time. Facebook have

appointed about 10,000 more

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moderators since but the pressures

will grow particularly from Europe.

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Interesting stories on the Express

front page and yours as well which

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we will come to but let's just show

the Daily Express because they have

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Nigel Farage on the stick everyone

by surprise when he went on TV and

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said actually he wouldn't mind,

quite like a second referendum, and

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he is the last person you would

expect to see that.

It seems to have

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taken Nigel Farage by surprise as

well because he commit first of all

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to say we should have second

referendum and immediately, unusual

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bedfellows for him, Nick Clegg,

Andrew Adonis and Vince Cable said

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he is talking sense.

The remoaners

as he would say!

Then there was a

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subtle shift. This through to Ukip

style he was immediately condemned

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by his own party saying this was a

ridiculous thing to do but it had an

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immediate impact. The bookies have

propped the odds from 10-1 to 5-1 on

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the second referendum and we talked

about the Manner for which had 55%

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and the pawn December had 53% in

favour of a second referendum, so

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perhaps that is despite the

government saying there won't be won

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and despite the Labour position,

perhaps that is more talk that comes

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from an unusual source.

It is in the

Guardian as well, we can show your

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front page, the same story. The way

they bid it is hoped to raise, I

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suppose it depends on which side of

the argument you're wrong. When he

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said it in the interview he said

maybe, just maybe there should be a

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second referendum and sounded like

he was just chucking it out.

I am a

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little bit more cynical than both of

you. I don't think Nigel Farage

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makes those kinds of mistakes in the

media, he is quite an accomplished

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performer whatever you think of his

politics. The fact he said he was on

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the verge and your travelling hours

later is from classic Nigel Farage

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playbook of headline grabbing as he

is now on the front pages. Had he

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stuck to the idea of backing it it

would have been a huge moment.

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Really, these remoaners had cause to

delight and some of the champions of

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Leave like Boris Johnson might have

been wrong-footed by it all but at

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the end of the day we are thinking

he has said one thing turned around.

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And Downing Street are saying there

won't be one anyway.

I don't think

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there will be an Theresa May has

said it would undermine the

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democratic vote.

She has been firm

on many things! We have seen a few

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reverses.

Watch that space. Speaking

of Theresa May, our government has

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serious problems with the National

Health Service. We are seeing that

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letter from A&E doctors saying

conditions are intolerable and the

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front-page pictures on the Metal and

other papers are of an 18-year-old

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general Bethany Walker who has died

despite being airlifted to hospital

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in Inverness. She had flu. What do

you make of that because this flu

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outbreak at the moment, a lot of

serious problems in the NHS this

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winter.

Really tragic to see a young

person, often the fluid tends to

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affect elderly and more surreal

people. Worrying to hear that the

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Australian flu as it has been

termed, though it is not from

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Australia and not new, is about to

take off. 55,000 operations have

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been cancelled over this winter and

the crisis in the NHS so far.

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Theresa May today in a key speech

used a question and answer session

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to call on all NHS workers to get

the compulsory flu jab. That could

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be quite problematic.

Clearly

something needs to be done. The

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Arctic blast coming into Britain

which is obviously a weather story

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but equally means the NHS, which

always faces problems that winter

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time, plus it has a flu outbreak and

not enough beds.

You said yourself

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the NHS, the government is under

pressure on the NHS from both the

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people that represent the main

thrusts you are talking about a

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radical rethink and the people

talking about taxes, but significant

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amounts of more money needs to go on

to the NHS and from the people on

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the front line. Six the A&E units

saying they are currently

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underfunded. 12-mac things are

happening. I thought it was

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interesting Jeremy Hunt has managed

to get social care umbilically tied

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to his NHS health service role. He

has also talked about we need to

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make significant progress about a

ten year plan. This is potentially

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very positive. We need to thank our

way through this. Although the

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government said no to a Royal

commission then assigns he is trying

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to do this.

Last story, a cracking

story on the front page of the

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Times, about the crown jewels been

heading in a biscuit tin from the

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Nazis. We know how to hide our

assets in this country!

It is not

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just any biscuit tin but it is a

Bath biscuit tin, and I come from

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Bar. It follows a lot of

conspiracies that people think they

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had been heading millivolts in

Canada and others any secret panel

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in Devon.

But the Nazis would never

let any biscuit tin!

Even if the

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phone the biscuit tenet would be so

quintessentially British that they

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wouldn't fancy it.

How has all this,

it now?

During the filming of the

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BBC documentary? Yes.

It is a great

story anyway. Thank you both coming

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and,.

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Don't forget you can see the front

pages of the papers online

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on the BBC News website.

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It's all there for you -

seven days a week -and if you miss

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the programme any evening you can

watch it later on BBC iPlayer.

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Thank you, Lucy Fisher

and Paul Johnson.

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Goodbye.

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