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Hello and welcome to our look ahead

to what the the papers will be

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bringing us tomorrow.

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With me are Rosamund Urwin,

who's a columnist for

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the London Evening Standard

and Michael Booker, Deputy Editor

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of the Daily Express.

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Good evening to you both. Before we

speak to them both, let's take a

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look at some of the newspaper front

pages. The Guardian leads on the

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condemnation by the United Nations

over Donald Trump's alleged racist

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comments. The president should

didn't get his hopes up about

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getting an invitation to the royal

wedding according to the Daily

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Mail's lead story.

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The Mirror covers

the allegations of racism

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by Chelsea coaching

staff in the 1990s.

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A smiling image of Angela Merkel

is on the FT, which reports

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on the German Chancellor reaching

an agreement to form

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a three party coalition.

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Tips on how to halt dementia,

are the top story in the Express.

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The Sun says there's pressure

on the BBC to sack Radio Four

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presenter John Humphrys over

comments he made off-air

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about equal pay.

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The Telegraph has an interview

with the presenter,

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in which he says he didn't know

he was being recorded.

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And also reports that people

are being turned away

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from pharmacies without flu jabs

because of low supplies.

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Meanwhile, the Daily Star

has some alternative

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advice for keeping the bug at bay.

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Must read that in more detail. Let

us begin... Kick us off pleased with

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the Guardian, a lot of coverage of

this. United Nations, Trump's

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remarks racist and shameful. We

won't have the word itself he is

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said to have used but people might

not know quite what's going on here,

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please enlighten them.

Yet again,

Donald Trump's bigmouth has landed

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him in trouble and he has been very

rude about Central American

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countries and African nations and

this has resulted in the UN, human

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rights spokesman saying it's

impossible to view his remarks as

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anything other than racist. American

diplomats are being summoned for

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approach to leaders.

I'm sure a lot

of things get said in private by all

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sorts of American presidents but

this was in a slightly bigger for?

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It was. A Democrat senator has come

forward to sake he said these

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things. Trump at first, and this is

the interesting thing, he had

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initially allowed the White House

not to deny the reports of his

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comments. It has been said by plenty

of people but actually these kind of

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remarks played very well with his

base. He has admitted he used tough

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language but later went on to say

he'd never used those words, but the

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denial was rather slow to come out.

In being undiplomatic is not

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entirely new. This is the guy you

want to build the wall because he

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accuse Mexicans of being rapists.

This is something he is kind of use

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to and used either for or behind it.

We were discussing this just before,

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there is a lot of people very angry,

the UN would be very angry with this

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and call it racist, but we are still

yet to see the people who voted for

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him in the first place. We don't

really hear what they are saying

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about Donald Trump at the moment.

Those in the liberal media and

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Western media... They think he's a

terrible guy.

Trump's usual enemies

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stop where exactly, getting upset

every single time. The same people

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again in this country who were very

happy

that he won't be coming over

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to open the embassy as well. Sadiq

Khan at the London mayor saying that

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he's not got our values and things

like that, but does it matter to the

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people in America? Are they paying

attention to the fact he isn't

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coming to open the embassy?

Is the

point being reached that even he

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might be going a bit far, do you

think?

Or is it more of the same?

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There are plenty of senior

Republican politicians worried about

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this, particularly people in swing

states, who are concerned they only

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need to lose a few voting points and

it turns off a chunk of their voters

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they don't want to lose. Obviously,

young people in America

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overwhelmingly rejected Donald

Trump, those who voted, and I think

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all this stuff to them, they must be

looking at their country, a lot of

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young people, and thinking how on

earth as our country become this? I

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think in four years, yes maybe this

stuff does build up.

You get the

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impression with him anyway, when you

see the Michael Wolff thing,...

The

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book that came out?

Yes, that he's

prepared to walk away at some point.

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And the family are as well. It seems

as though it was all of a bit of a

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shock to become president in the

first place and he has got four

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years out of it and he likes playing

the victim. If he is perceived to be

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forced out, he will play the victim

for the rest of his life.

We will

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never hear the end of it! Michael,

staying with Donald Trump, the front

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page of the Daily Mail. As you

mentioned, not coming over to open a

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new embassy, claiming he doesn't

like the building or the location

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and thinks it was a bad deal, all

sorts of reasons. But this is

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something else? The Royal wedding?

The Daily Mail had the scoop that he

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wasn't coming over for the empty

this morning, now they are saying he

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will miss the Royal wedding. This

doesn't seem as incredibly well

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sourced because there doesn't... For

Prince Harry Meghan Markle's big day

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in May, no invites have gone out yet

so we don't know 100%. They are

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saying someone from the Royal

household, some courtier, there's a

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good source in the stories! The

guest list hasn't yet been

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announced, there is no reason he

would be invited, though. There is

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this debate the former president,

because his best friends with Harry

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and shares his liberal values that

of Meghan Markle, would he be

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invited? This doesn't seem as cut

and dried as this morning's Daily

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Mail, saying he wasn't coming to

open up the embassy. But I can't

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imagine he would be invited. It is a

lot smaller wedding this time than

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Kate and William's wedding. They are

trying to contain it at Windsor, so

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I wouldn't imagine it would be a big

song and dance and Obama didn't go

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to that wedding.

You don't make too

much buzz about things that are not

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happening!

He would be interesting

if Obama does get the invite.

Yes,

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it would be seen as a snub.

Trump's

ego is fragile and would see it as a

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snub. It is in a state occasion and

the guest list is drawn up by

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Buckingham Palace but the government

has a consultancy role. We know

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Meghan Markle loathed him and wrote

and called him divisive and

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misogynistic.

The other problem is

if that would be his first visit to

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this country, then all the security

problems, would we want this huge

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protest outside of Windsor Castle

for the Royal wedding? I can't

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imagine he would be invited to this

wedding.

It says Donald Trump faces

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the embarrassment of not being

invited. I think that is one thing

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he doesn't suffer!

OK, let's go now to the Daily

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Telegraph. Would you get us on this?

This is about the dreaded flu. The

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headline probably says it's all,

chemist runs short of flu jab.

Yes,

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we've now on not only got to fear

the Australian flu but also the

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Japanese flu and today... Sorry,

today the Telegraph is saying people

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across the country were being turned

away from pharmacies who had run out

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of stock of the vaccine. So there is

a shortage in Cumbria and the

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Telegraph has contacted branches of

Routes across the Midlands. It is

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not a cause for panic straightaway.

Boots said today, it has told the

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Telegraph they would be being

resupplied and swiftly. One of the

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things that comes up later in the

story is high-street chemist said

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they avoided overstocking the jabs

because they are only reimbursed by

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the NHS for vaccines that are used,

so they only keep quite a small

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supply in stores because they don't

want to lose money.

It does point

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out there is a stockpile somewhere.

They don't exactly where that there

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is a stockpile. I don't think there

is a need to panic. As they say, it

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could be the worst flu season for

seven years. It is not at that point

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yet. Sadly 85 people have died over

the winter period, but it is not

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that caused panic at the moment. I

seem to remember seven years ago

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when it was far worse, most of the

country survived.

Don't get too

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worried about it. We are overdue a

flu epidemic!

They are from tomorrow

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going to be fully stocked again so

again, I think it is a little bit

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scary the way it is presented in the

Telegraph but I think we will be all

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right.

The extraordinary thing to me

as there is so much warning about

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the flu, you have to wave a flag and

say, particularly in vulnerable,

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elderly, but also the National

Health Service people are being

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pushed to have the flu jab. You

would think they would get that

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automatically?

Except because of the

way the flu jab works, it doesn't

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protect you against all the strains

of that. It can make people feel not

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particular well having it and there

is an argument that it is pretty

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pointless, some doctors make this

argument.

As beings can be lazy

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income be bothered to get it.

You

talking about yourself?

Gas!

But of

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course the broader context here for

this is the NHS is really, really

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struggling. In theory it has had a

relatively easy winter which has

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still been incredibly tough on

staff, they are losing staff, these

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A&E specialist sending a letter to

the Prime Minister this week, saying

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about the state of A&Es. That is a

big problem, because if you have the

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context people dying on trolleys and

additionally got a growing crisis,

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though admittedly at the moment not

that big, but has the potential to

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become something much bigger, then

it becomes...

They say it's moving

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towards an epidemic.

A scary word.

An official epidemic in France.

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Still just across the Channel. There

is a big drama front page of the

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Daily Telegraph. Michael, a familiar

face one could say, John Humphrys,

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the Today programme presenter facing

criticism. Just explain if you can

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what this is about.

He was recorded

having that all four word banter

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about Carrie Gracie, the BBC News

China editor who resigned earlier in

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the week about the gender pay rules.

As the week has gone and he has been

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speaking to Jon Sopel, the BBC's

North America editor. This wasn't

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being broadcast but this tape has

got out and got into other hands, it

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was in the Times this morning and

the sun, in which they were joking

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about it. These jokes haven't gone

down very well. Particularly John

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Humphrys rather than Jon Sopel. At

one point, Jon Sopel said stop in a

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jokey manner. John Humphrys talking

here, also on the front of the sun.

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They want him out. And a lot of

people in the BBC, predict we women

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I imagine, don't like the cut of

their jib, the way they were joking,

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particularly John Humphrys. In the

Telegraph he is saying if he could

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relive the last few days, he

wouldn't have done the same chat

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with Jon Sopel. But I think that 74,

I think John Humphrys probably

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doesn't care that much. He's making

quite a lot of money at the moment,

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on about £600,000 a year and the

moment? He probably has a decent

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pension and is better off than most

people. He is trying to laugh it off

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and is a it was a wind-up, saying it

was just a nasty person with a

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gradually did.

That is the other

wrangle. Let's just go to this front

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page here... BBC women want veteran

sacked.

What a surprise!

One

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paragraph we can see on the front?

A

source for an equal page campaign

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group said the only acceptable

outcome is for him to go. I think

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one of the frustrations of one of

these women is a lot of them have

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stopped, they are not allowed to

present on this issue, but John

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Humphrys is still allowed to.

Allowed? Everyone seems to know it

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was a conversation which he didn't

expect. He was broadcasting at the

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time.

Sure, but going forward... The

people have been banned, who have

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commented on it publicly. His

argument was this was a private

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conversation which has become a

public one and he is still allowed

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to ask people about this issue.

And

still trying to laugh it off whereas

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other people are taking far more

seriously.

Onto another story...

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Chelsea on the front page of the

mirror, Chelsea n-word outrage.

It

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emerged on the Guardian online. It

is Chelsea youth players claiming to

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have been subject to racial abuse by

the coach and scout. I think at

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Chelsea since 1979, very close to

Ken Bates, the chairman and owner

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that was. He was there quite a few

years. There is confirmed quite

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shocking stuff these players say

they were subjected to from both of

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them.

And that is their relegation.

The pair of them deny those

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allegations, and we must say the

police have said they have found no

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evidence for it.

There was a

complaint made to the pleas, the

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police investigated and there was no

grounds for prosecution. Chelsea are

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now subject to legal action from

these players who said it lived with

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them. These young lads, they are

eager to please, a lot of them from

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very poor backgrounds and this is a

good chance to give themselves and

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their family a great future, playing

football is a dream for a lot of

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young lads. If they are subjected to

this sort of thing... These people

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have great power over them. If they

are subjecting these lads... Why

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might you are generalising.

It is

interesting, when we see a spotlight

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shifting, we start in Hollywood, we

come to other organisations and

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institutions and settling on the

world of football now.

Football had

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the allegations in the women's game

last year which came before

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Parliament, where the women said,

not totally dissimilar, not as

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severe, but that there was racial

abuse and a lot of sexism going on

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and bad behaviour.

Do you think it's

a case that in areas where people

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sort of felt it had to be put up

with, again not this case

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particular, but in sport... People

playing football and so on, oh well,

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there's a lot of rough-and-tumble,

but now people are looking at that

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sort of thing differently?

Yes, and

power stretches. Hollywood is

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similar. A couple of people hold an

awful lot of power, particularly

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over relatively young people

starting out, who hope this person

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will be the person who makes their

career. This is very difficult to

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take them on, when you think my

career lies in this person's hands.

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The point was made earlier in the

week, allegations against Kojak

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Newcastle United. I think they are

being investigated as well. It goes

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back to these lads are scared of

them.

He also denies it. The

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Financial Times front page,

Rosamond, the headline says mortgage

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lenders shut the door on bit coin

investors eyeing first property,

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disentangle this for us and tell us

what it is!

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Essentially lots of young people

have seen bitcoin is an easy way to

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make money. People compare to other

Rushs in the city on the past, going

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back to Tulip Fever.

The crypto

currency, it doesn't exist in

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physical form.

It is the most famous

crypto currency but a lot of people

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have piled into it because it's been

seen as a really quick way to get a

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massive return. It has shot up very

quickly. Now, they have tried to

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cash out and some people have

struggled even to do that, but those

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who have have thought, this is

great, I will put a deposit on my

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flat. Except it turns out they are

not really allowed to use it as a

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deposit on a flat. Public sector

worker who made £40,000 investing

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bitcoin couldn't get a mortgage

because he couldn't prove where he

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got the funds. What is interesting

about this is a mortgage lender

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didn't know what a crypto currency

was, which seems staggering to me

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given that it's been pretty much the

most talked about things of the last

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year.

Maybe... You might read about

it but it is still a pretty complex

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thing.

But this will create a

problem, because it's really

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difficult to get on the property

market, this is one way to get a

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deposit, or has been. There is no

guarantee it keeps going up,

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obviously.

Michael, are you using

your bitcoin to find a new place?

I

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checked by the computer to see if I

dropped any of there! It has been

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explained to me a million times what

bitcoin is all about and it seems

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like it's a made up thing that will

end up causing a lot of problems for

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a lot of people who have invested so

much time and it stops are not if

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you cash out! Bellowed the people

have been able to cash out and then

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being ripped off when they have

tried to cash out.

The problem here

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wouldn't apply, this is the first

time buyers, because the aftershow

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way your deposit has come from. If

you owned the property, you could

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use that money to pay down the

mortgage and then you don't have a

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problem because no one is asking

when you pay down your mortgage.

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Obviously no one should lie! Thank

you both very much indeed. That is

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it for the Papers tonight.

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Don't forget you can see the front

pages of the papers online

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on the BBC News website.

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It's all there for you -

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As I said, thank you very much,

bye-bye.

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