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Hello and welcome to our look ahead

to what the the papers will be

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bringing us tomorrow.

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With me are Helen Brand,

Chief Executive of the Association

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of Chartered Certified Accountants

and Jason Beattie, Head of Politics

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at The Daily Mirror.

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Many of tomorrow's front

pages are already in.

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The Times reports that every

rape case in England

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and Wales could be reviewed

by the Crown Prosecution Service

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after the collapse of several

trials over the failure

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to disclose evidence.

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The Telegraph says the UK

is in negotiations with the EU

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to extend the Brexit transition

period to nearly three years.

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The government, though has strongly

denied the story.

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Now you've got to be in agony

to have a hip op is the headline

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in the Daily Mail which claims NHS

Trusts are turning down patients

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for routine hip replacements.

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The Express leads

with the rise in GDP.

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The UK economy rose by 0.5% in

the last three months of the year,

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defying economists predictions.

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A poll in the Guardian

shows support has grown

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for a second EU Referendum.

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The ICM survey says 47% of people

want a second vote after the terms

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of the UK's withdrawal

from the EU was clear.

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The FT reports on an apparent

diplomatic rift between the UK

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and China that could threaten trade

talks due to take place

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during the Prime Minister's visit

to the country next week.

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The Sun says that a darts governing

body has banned women appearing

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on stage in a move the paper labels

as political correctness

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going too far.

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And the Mirror has the death

of the wife of Singer Paul Young.

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Stacey Young died today

from Brain Cancer earlier

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today at the age of 52.

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And so a variety of stories vying

for top billing across a range

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of tomorrow's papers.

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We are going to begin with the

times, every rape case to be

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reviewed, trials faced delays as

disclosure scandal mounts. This is

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because something like four rape

trials recently have collapsed,

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Helen.

Yes, and it is having very

serious consequences. First and

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foremost, obviously, miscarriages of

justice need to be prevented. The

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nondisclosure, we have discussed it,

surrounding incompetency is, and

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lack of resources, but it is serious

that so many cases are falling by

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the wayside. Following on from that,

we know rape cases are

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underreported, under prosecuted and

there aren't enough convictions that

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come through from rape cases. The

effect it has on the women whose

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cases are already in process, all

women who are thinking about coming

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forward, this throws all of that

into doubt now and it is very

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concerning.

Whatever they do, it

seems there isn't the trust in the

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justice system that the judiciary

would want.

Helen is right. Will

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this deter women coming forward?

They already have a lack of face

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that claims will be taken seriously.

We should be quite careful. This is

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current rape cases, not historic

ones. It's one is going through the

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courts at the moment. And it is off

the back, as you said, of 2-3 cases

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where there has been miscarriages of

justice. One particular one was Liam

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Alan, where his defence team asked

for evidence and the police failed

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to hand it over and said it didn't

exist. It was only when it got to

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court and a barrister said we need

to see the evidence, and it turns

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out that the woman in question had

been sending lots of texts of a

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flirtatious nature. Therefore, the

case collapsed and why didn't the

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police disclose that information?

This is the problem, are the police

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under resourced? That is one

complaint. Are they incompetent? Or

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is there a greater conspiracy going

on that they are trying to push

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through convictions to meet some

sort of target?

Alison Saunders was

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talking about that, she said that is

absolutely not the case and rejected

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that entirely. Let's move on, it

wouldn't be a paper review without

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Brexit, would it?

We like Brexit. I

am excited by it.

Are you?

Yeah.

OK.

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I do politics for a living.

Let's start with the Daily

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Telegraph, it is on three front

pages. UK in talks over longer

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transition for Brexit...

The

transition...

David Davis has been

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setting out what he thinks

transition should look like from a

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UK point of view.

This is what

happens, we actually leave

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officially the European Union on

29th March next year, and then we go

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into a transition period where we

don't leave at all. We then have two

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years, we were told, or around two

years, to actually prepare for

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leaving. Even during transition, we

have ad hoc membership of the EU,

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accepting the rules, freedom of

movement, members of the single

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market, members of the customs

union, under the jurisdiction of the

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European Court of Justice, all the

things Brexiteers hate. Now we are

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told, strongly denied by Downing

Street, the transition period could

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go on for three years. That is a

possibility. I have spoken to very

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senior EU officials that say they

don't want to go on beyond two

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years. But if we get to the stage

that we haven't got our border

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systems in place, and we haven't got

the cheques ready, and we haven't

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sorted out regulatory alignment, and

worked out membership of various

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agencies that matter, planes can't

take off because they can't get

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permission, because they are not

regulated, we need to do that. That

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is why you can see the timescale

slipping, and you can see the anger

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of Brexiteers that want to leave now

because our glorious future ahead of

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us is not. That is why it's so

matters.

The government is angry or

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a categorical lie already.

They

have. Shall we deal with the

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statement from Downing Street? This

is a categorical lie, the

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time-limited period should be

determined by the length of time it

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takes to put in place new

arrangements, and we believe it

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should be around two years. The

Telegraph is ranked a front-page

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article suggesting British officials

are in discussions with Brussels.

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They are in. Business wouldn't like

it to go on any longer, would they?

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Certainty is what is being looked

for, currency is what is being

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looked for. We can only see an

extended transition period injecting

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more uncertainty into the process. I

think they're probably have been

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some discussions along these lines,

whether it's as formal as is said

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here, because of the practical

issues, it is a very practical

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process that needs to be gone

through.

Shouldn't there be

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contingency plans and pays? Nothing

has worked out how anybody expected,

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it is a good idea to think about all

eventualities, isn't it?

Government

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or for business? Certainly

businesses are thinking about all

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eventualities and lots of

contingency plans are in place, but

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as we heard from the Chief Executive

of Goldman Sachs this week, those

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contingency plans are being

activated because I can't wait any

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longer.

Matt says, somebody is

having a drink, a tipple, opening a

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bottle of wine, and the legend is,

"We are doing dry January after a 30

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day transition period." The Daily

Express, Brexit boom is here. How

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big is this boom?

Well, it was 1%

issue at the end of 2017, stretching

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it a little to describe it as a

boom. The growth figures for the

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entire year of 2017 were lower than

2016, and the lowest we have seen

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since the D12. It is hard to

extrapolate from that that we are

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seeing a boom. Where the country is

growing, it is largely on the back

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of global growth where we are seeing

that filter through into the British

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economy, rather than anything in

particular that has happened in

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relation to Brexit.

The project fear

was supposed, we were told, we were

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going to be plunged into a

recession, and it was, the economy,

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it was good to be in a bad way. Even

those that have been negative about

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the impact of Brexit, it is not

quite that bad.

Some bits of project

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fear have already come true in terms

of seeing a slowdown in growth, we

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are seeing the pound fall in value,

and we are starting to see

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businesses move offshore. The

doomsday scenarios were 42034, after

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Brexit had happened. Brexit hasn't

happened, so we should hold judgment

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here. They were long-term

predictions, rather than short-term,

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and they may well come true.

We

haven't yet left the European Union

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and we don't yet have the

settlement, so it has not happened.

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The Guardian, though, is looking

towards a second referendum, because

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there is a surge in support for it.

Who has got the stomach for this?

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LAUGHTER

Britain favours a vote on Brexit by

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a 16 point margin but only when we

know the final terms of departure.

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Then what do we do if we say we

don't like the terms? Then what

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happens? I don't suppose they have

looked into that, have they, but...

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We had a poll in a similar area last

week, which had a slight majority

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for not wanting a second referendum.

We asked a slightly different

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question. What we then found was, if

there were a second referendum, the

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majority of people would vote to

Remain. Nobody wants an election,

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because we are tired of elections,

but I think we are starting to see,

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and we always have caveats with

polls, we have had a run of polls

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recently showing a bias for another

referendum.

It is stalled very

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split.

Very marginal. What we are

seeing is the entrenched views

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amongst age and the people that

voted Leave, the older people, the

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over 65 is, they are just as

strongly in favour of voting to

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Leave. For younger people, as the

Guardian poll bears out, as our poll

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there is, they are fanatically

wanting to Remain. It is a fanatical

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divide. The Guardian shows the

Midlands, particularly East

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Midlands, very, very strongly still

for Brexit. But you go to Bristol,

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classic metropolitan area, slightly

higher educated, very, very strongly

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for Remain.

Talking trash about the

East Midlands, we won't stand for

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it! There are lovely people from Lee

Smith and! Self praise is no

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recommendation. Let's look at the

Daily Mail. Now you have to be in

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agony to have a hip operation.

The

article says it all comes down to

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cost in the end. The NHS is having

to try to delay operations because

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it doesn't have the funding to go

through with them. Therefore it is

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making sure that people really,

really are in agony before they go

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for their operation and insisting on

weight loss, insisting on stopping

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smoking, those kinds of measures. In

themselves, they good things for

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general health, but aren't medically

relevant to having a hip operation,

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so again, it is another symptom of

that general NHS challenge around

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finding the resources to meet the

medical needs of the population.

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£9,000 for the average hip

replacement.

That would make sense.

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By problem here is that we have

right wing papers complaining for

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years the lower taxes, vilifying

governments raise taxes to pay for

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health care, and turn around and go

this is terrible, they can't have it

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both ways.

Politicians find it

difficult to sell the case for

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higher taxes.

There is definitely a

shift on this one. People are

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starting to wake up now. They want

public services they desire, whether

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it is education or a better health

service, they have to pay for it

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somehow.

There is also a message in

here about the wider health care

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issue, social care, preventative

health care, which puts you in a

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position where you might not need a

hip operation, and the joining up of

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those budgets.

Social care in

particular, it has been cut by 6

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billion in the last six years. No

wonder hospitals are struggling.

The

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FT, rift Taisho 's UK China golden

hero. This is the Belton Road

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initiative.

It is essentially a

really big the ancient silk Route

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China's plans for China businesses

involving billions and billions of

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dollars of investment throughout

Asia, Africa, into Europe. We have

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done a lot of research around the

opportunities that this presents,

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and it presents a lot of

opportunities for British business

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in many countries across emerging

economies. That, essentially, is

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where the future growth will come

from and we are talking about a

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protest Brexit well, it is where

trading is going to happen.

Theresa

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May will visit China. China is

hoping for a formal endorsement.

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What I don't understand is why we

are reluctant to endorse this given

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we are meant to be a free trading

wonderful Britain post-Brexit.

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Pictographic, the Prime Minister's

former disaster after the decision

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to call the election, it just seems

weird that Britain would not want to

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support this.

We will see what

diplomatic language gets used when

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she is there.

This time last year,

President Xi was talking about free

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trade, we welcome that very much. It

is in contrast to the speech today

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from Trump in terms of global versus

protectionism. It is part of that

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free trade initiative.

Let's finish

with a bit of navel-gazing. BBC male

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presenters take cut in pay. John

Humphrys is one of six highly paid

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male presenters who have done the

decent thing, supposedly, for which

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the BBC says it is grateful.

We

should be, should we, very no-ball.

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Men self-sacrificing in this way to

help the good cause of gender pay

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equality.

I wonder how effective it

will be in resolving the wider

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issues amongst 19,000 people.

This

is an interesting story, which

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essentially is why we are talking

about it. But the bigger issue on

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equal pay and gender pay reporting

are the systemic issues that exist

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within organisations. We will see

more around these issues in the next

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couple of weeks.

You are right. My

company, I know, we have to reveal

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this. The BBC is the first one to do

it, and therefore we are talking

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about it. But it is a weird way to

handle it, saying they grateful,

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maybe expressing attitude to the

women that have been underpaid for

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many years and do a wonderful job.

Thank you for your comments. I don't

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have a view. That's it for the

papers for tonight.

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Don't forget you can see the front

pages of the papers online

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on the BBC News website.

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It's all there for you,

seven days a week

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at bbc.co.uk/papers.

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And if you miss the programme

any evening, you can watch it

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later on BBC iPlayer.

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Thank you to Jason and Helen. They

have both been paid the same for

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appearing hits a night. Now, the

weather.

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