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Hello and welcome to our look ahead

at the papers with my guests. Good

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evening to you both. We will be

looking at the front pages in a

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moment with Nigel Nelson, the editor

of the Sunday Mirror and Sunday

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people and the broadcaster Penny

Smith. Let's look at the front

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pages. The Sunday Times says Meghan

Markle plans to make a speech at her

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wedding. Meanwhile, Donald Trump has

criticised Theresa May according to

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the Mail on Sunday who thinks the

PM's approach to Brexit has not been

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tough enough. The Independent on

Sunday in Leeds with a dramatic

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picture of the bomb in Kabul which

has killed at least 95 people and

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injured many more. The Telegraph

says Cabinet source is warning of a

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Brexit betrayal. The Express has a

story on rogue parking companies.

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Lots of stories on the front pages.

The papers all have their own

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investigation is taking place. Let's

start off with the Mail.

We were

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having a discussion, Nigel and I,

about whether it is really a snub

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when what he has said is he would

have played hardball with Europe. He

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he said the EU is not all it is

cracked up to be, I would be tough.

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It is not really a snub. He says he

has been invited, Theresa May has

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invited him twice to Britain and

everybody is saying did we know

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about this? Is it true?

Fake news!

Because as we know, there have been

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suggestions that there would be

protests and various other things,

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and also in this, this is an

interview he has done with Piers

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Morgan, and in it he praises Macron

and says how he really likes them

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and they went up the Eiffel Tower.

And the wife, he likes the wife is

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specially.

He likes the wife, they

closed everything and it was

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fantastic. I supposed it is the

contrast between saying Theresa May

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should have done this, but the

Macrons, they are great! That is

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what struck me.

It was a new special

relationship.

It is not as!

What do

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you think?

It is quite special to

get an interview with Donald Trump

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so full marks to Piers Morgan for

pulling it off. But the problem is

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you get the feeling that he did not

say anything. When it comes to the

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so-called snub about Brexit, what he

says is he would have taken a stand.

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What does that mean? David Davis

might say he is taking a tough

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stand, Theresa May might say she is,

so it goes on. I think the news that

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he thinks he is coming to two visit

is the most interesting, as Penny

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said. The fact that Buckingham

Palace does not know anything about

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it and nor does Downing Street, does

make me feel that he is a bit

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confused. We do know that he is due

to make a working visit at the end

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of the year. That seems to be set in

stone.

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But the idea of a state visit within

the year.

Maybe it is one of those

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things when people say we must do

lunch and you get your diary out and

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that you look horrified.

It is

reported that when it was brought up

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Mr Trump said we will talk about it.

It has then moved on to two visits!

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Who can tell?

Let's turn to the

Telegraph. A couple of stories that

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we are looking at on the front page.

Again, it is Brexit. Brexit

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betrayal, Nigel.

You could call it

Brexit common sense, it rather

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depends on which side of the

argument you are on. What the

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Telegraph is suggesting is that

Whitehall officials, Whitehall

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mandarins as we like to call them,

they are trying to get the Prime

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Minister to agree a soft Brexit.

Much of the lines that Philip

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Hammond was talking about, that he

seemed to get hauled over the coals

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over by the PM when he was in Davos.

This is the idea of the modest

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Brexit, not too many differences and

so on. They are saying Jeremy Heggie

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Cabinet Secretary is behind this,

along with Ollie Robbins, the PM's

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chief Brexit advisor. They may well

be advising that. It may be the

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sensible thing to do. But the

Telegraph being a Brexit paper, this

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is a betrayal.

They do say that

obviously they have the big war

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cabinet meeting on Monday, say

really keying it up.

Every time I

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hear the word whenever I try, I see

people sliding under the table! The

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thing is, we are in it for the long

haul. It seems to me that these are

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the small things on the way to our

divorce. These other bits, I have

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mentioned it before, it is like a

divorce. You have the house,

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children, probably children and then

house. You have all these things to

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unpick and then you are talking

about who is having the books.

What

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aspect of Brexit concerns you?

Whenever they start talking about

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things that I think are going to

really affect me, let's face it,

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that is the only thing I really care

about, being able to get to Europe

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quickly and getting through customs

without worrying, and also about

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companies and companies that rely on

European interchange. Those are the

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things. This to me, as I said...

People have got bored with it

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because not a lot has happened. The

feeling that one gets all the way

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through with the government doesn't

really know what it wants from

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Brexit. That is what the Europeans

keep telling us. When we know what

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we are aiming for, it might get more

in just in because we will then

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begin to understand how it will

affect us individually. Until it

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happens, it can be a bit dull.

That

is putting it mildly for some!

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Something that will probably get a

lot of people's attention is council

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tax bills to rise by £80.

This is

because as we know, councils are

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strapped for cash, and the

government has lifted its cap on

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increases, and it looks like quite a

few councils are going to say right,

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lets makes it out. We need lots of

things doing and we particularly

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need to pay attention to social

care. Social care has been the one

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thing they have been banging on

about with the NHS, the reason why

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the NHS is struggling is because of

social care, and that has this

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knock-on effect.

It of all the bed

blocking.

And frankly, no one likes

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tax rises, but my view on this one

is, bring it on. Until we start

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talking about this whole social care

issue and until we integrate the

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health side and the social care side

and the billions it will cost, we

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will have constant problems. Yes,

somebody will have to pay for it

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somewhere along the way, let's start

with council tax.

But a lot of

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people are not getting pay rises,

how will they pay for this?

Because

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of inflation, they are Angela

getting paid equally as is. The cost

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of life is getting more and more. We

are in 's territory. No matter which

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way you dress it up, whether you put

those on it and put glitter on, it

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is still austerity.

The other side

is we have ambulances queueing up in

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car parks. However you cut it, more

money is necessary and it means a

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lot more money. Obviously, if the

Labour government was in the moment,

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what we would have is the highest

paid would be making the biggest

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contribution. That to me is the way

forward. However you look at it, we

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are all going to have to pay some

more.

Talking about pay, let's move

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on to our third story on the Sunday

Telegraph. What grabbed you about

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this story? The BBC are accused of

paperboy.

The argument is because

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you have the gender report coming

out next week, the BBC decided what

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a perfect time to deflect from this

and we will announce that some of

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the top paid presenters like John

Humphreys and Huw Edwards have

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agreed to take a pay cut. It does

seem that this is a bit more

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fundamental. The BBC needs to think

about what it needs to and what it

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do wants to be. You might argue John

Humphrys should not get £600,000 of

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public money and Hugh Edwards, I

hope he is not around at the moment

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to hear after! You can argue about

things like that you can argue about

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pay parity, but at the end of the

date is public money and it is how

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you spend it. I would have thought

this was a perfect time for the BBC

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to look at itself and say, do we

need to do everything? Do we need to

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have so many expensive light

entertainment programmes on? Isn't

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it part of the BBC to be producing

television that would not be

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available elsewhere?

How does this

compare to the commercial side?

I do

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think with the BBC, and particularly

with radio presenters, like you were

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talking that John Humphrys, the BBC

in the past has talked about other

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commercial pressures and part of me

thinks, you are not supposed to be

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competing in that way so therefore,

don't offer huge salaries because

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somebody will do it because they

want to do it. You don't need to

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offer these massive amounts and you

cannot get that in the commercial

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sector. You really can't. These

wages are far more than anybody

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else's offering.

OK. Let's move on

to the Independent. And, yes, 95

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people killed in Kabul. There are

stories of women and children also

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killed in this. The Taliban really

picking up the pace on attacks in

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Afghanistan.

I think for me, there

is also that added hideousness that

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it was all packed into an ambulance.

It is that horrible juxtaposition.

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Just like when you find out doctors

have joined Isis, for example. You

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think there is something quite weird

about that combination of something

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which is supposed to be helping

people who are ill and then blowing

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people to bits. You can only imagine

the hideousness of living in a place

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like this, and the same in Syria, to

be fair.

I will look it up for the

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next programme, I think the

international Red Cross have said it

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is regarded as a crime, that they

have used an ambulance, something

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which should help people, to commit

an atrocity. I will find that for

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the next hour. Nigel, could you take

us to the Express please?

Indeed.

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The Express have gone completely off

piste when it comes to politics. A

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story which will affect a lot of

people because 6 million people get

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private parking tickets in this

country. No more. The government is

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doing something about this. This is

Sajid Javid the Communities

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Secretary. The idea is a new code of

practice for the private parking

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companies. They handle private bits

of land and hospital car parks. If

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they issue tickets when they should

not and if they have an appeals

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procedure which does not work or if

anything is confusing about the way

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they operate, what they can do is

remove the right to go to the DVLA

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to get our addresses and that will

put them out of business because if

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they have not got the addresses from

the DVLA and our names, they cannot

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finance, they get no money and that

will be the end of them. That is the

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idea.

You were telling us early on

about how you stopped off somewhere.

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I was at party conference. I parked

on a hotel for court to put in in

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Manchester. I drove off, put my car

in a multi-story. The next morning I

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found a ticket on it from one of

these private companies. Somebody

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had seen me in the hotel and worked

his way all round the car park to

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put the ticket on. Tickets are not

actually tickets, they are invoices.

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I refused to pay the invoice and

told the company I would happily

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expose them in the newspaper if they

pursued it and that was the sad

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thing is not everyone can say that

threat. How would you know it was a

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cowboy? First of all the tickets

should not look like tickets. It is

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one of the things that would be

banned under this system. They will

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not be local authority. It will be

written on it that it is a private

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firm. And then what you do is you

take them on. You should be able to

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get rid of them.

I think a lot of

people would be scared.

Very

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quickly, irony want to get to this

story, the bride will be speaking at

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her wedding. What do you think about

this?

The amount of weddings I have

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been to in the past two years where

the bride have spoken.

Really?

Yes,

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it is relent. Andy McDowell did it

in the film For Weddings and a cat

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macro funeral.

We have not mentioned

which wedding it is. It is Meghan

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Markle and Prince Harry. Why do like

it?

I just think it sounds like it

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will be really good fun. There is a

line where it says she is even

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thinking of putting in some jokes.

Excellent!

We will leave it there.

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Penny and Nigel, thank you. We have

more coming up in the next hour. You

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