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Hello and welcome to our look ahead

to what the the papers will be

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bringing us tomorrow.

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With me are the former

Trade Minister, Lord Digby Jones,

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and the Broadcaster and Campaigner,

Henry Bonsu.

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Many of tomorrow's front

pages are already in.

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Tomorrow's front

pages, starting with

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The Metro which leads on the news

that the FBI was tipped off

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about the Florida shooter

Nikolas Cruz - months before

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the teenager carried

out one of America's

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deadliest school attacks.

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That story is also covered

by the Independent which carries

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pictures of most of the 17 victims

who were mainly teenagers.

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The Mirror says police investigating

football coach Barry Bennell -

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who was convicted of abusing boys

in his care asked Gary Speed

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if he was a victim.

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The Telegraph leads on report

which suggests that young

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professionals are half as likely

to be home owners as

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they were 20 years ago.

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The I focuses on a warning that

many household chemicals

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are a risk to health.

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Scientists say cleaning products,

cosmetics and perfumes are releasing

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harmful particles into air.

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The Times reports that thousands

more prisoners are to be released

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early under a government drive

to relieve pressure

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on overcrowded jails.

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And the Daily Express carries

the story that eating two yoghurts

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a week could significantly reduce

the chances of having

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a heart attack.

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That is a quick run through of the

newspaper front pages. The Florida

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shooting dominating, and a striking

picture on the front of the

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Telegraph and raising yet again, we

say this every time, the question of

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gun control. They think anything

will change?

It raises the question

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of gun control in the minds of

people who have lost loved ones, in

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the minds of those usually on the

left in the United States, the

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Democrats, but not in the minds of

those who are paid by the National

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Rifle Association and the gun lobby,

nor in the mind of President Trump

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who has treated and said, people of

America are you should not be scared

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going to school, and there are

people there to protect you, and

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everything apart from introducing

background checks which would make

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it more difficult fight and alienate

a teenager to get his hands only of

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war. If Sandy Hook wasn't able to

move the dial in 2012, and it is a

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great shame and says a lot about

modern America.

President Trump's

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remarks didn't mention gun control

at all and you talked about mental

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health, and he is a big supporter of

the NRA and the gun lobby in the

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United States, and it is a big

supporter of him.

The Telegraph,

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this headline about the grieving

parent and it says a nation mourns

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again.

From our point of view, how

many more times? If Sandy Hook

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doesn't move the dial what is going

to? If you have a president who

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doesn't talk about the fact that

this mentally deranged people walks

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into a place and kill 17 people with

a gun, doesn't talk about, he

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wouldn't have done that if he

doesn't have a time, he would still

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be mentally deranged but he couldn't

use that as a channel to commit the

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atrocity, so you have to step back,

but in the psyche of America, this

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amendment was brought into the

constitution.

7091.

To protect

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people in lonely places from

marauding gangs. -- 1791. When you

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think a young person, a teenager in

America, the chances of being being

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killed by a gun is tens of thousands

more likely than anywhere in Europe.

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We are going to be seeing this again

and again and again and that is

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disgusting.

In the Guardian, the

front page we have to say the

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alleged gunman, 19-year-old Nikolas

Cruz appearing in court accused of

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17 premeditated murders, but a lot

of questions about the FBI and

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whether they will told in advance,

whether they knew in advance and

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could have done something because he

was putting out stuff on social

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media.

How much stuff that he put

out and how clearly was marked? I

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understand that he made a comment in

response to a video that was posted

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on YouTube and the FBI came and

interviewed the person who posted

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the video but weren't able to trace

it to this young man. We found out

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quite a bit about him. He was linked

to a far right white supremacist

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group. He had said a lot of things

which alarmed the youngsters he went

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to school with before he was

expelled, you know the said person

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most likely... He was said person

most likely to shoot up the school

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thought was an open secret and still

nothing was said.

And looking at the

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treatment of this FBI in the papers,

it is not true. They knew it was

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posted but couldn't trace it to him.

Headlines are not always accurate.

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Let's move onto one of the big

stories at home, Barry Bennell, and

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this is dominating some of the front

pages, the Times, football clubs

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facing multi-million pound claims

over sex abuse will stop notorious

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now, 64 years old and just been

convicted of 43 sex offences against

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11 boys as young as eight.

A very

specific period, and that is often

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the case when somebody becomes

notorious, other people who have

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kept quiet for a long time come

forward. Police have disclosed that

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a further 86 people have come

forward with allegations and they

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will follow all these up seriously.

He is now suspected of being one of

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Britain's's most suspected

paedophiles. Lawyers say that

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compensation claims could reach more

than £250,000 per person because

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many of these people were destroyed

psychologically. They didn't fulfil

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their potential. They were abused,

that is talk of being linked to

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suicide, no ending of this. Who

knows where it could go.

And if you

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follow that, the quest for damages,

you need a deep pocket to sue, and

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if you think about it it won't be

Barry Bennell who pays for this.

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When you see the front of the

Guardian they take it one stage

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further and actually put Manchester

City's name up in lights and said

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they are seriously implicated in

this, were warned about his

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behaviour and still let him carry

on.

Let's just see the Guardian, the

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front page, Manchester City ignored

warnings and kept serial abuser and

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the youth team setup. There are

going to be more questions.

There

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are questions that you see so often

these victims, when they look for

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financial compensation, the pocket

they have to go after those usually

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doing time in prison for that very

thing. Here, they have got an

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absolute slam dunk very wealthy club

who actually put this guy back in

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charge of children, having been

warned, so I would suggest...

It is

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when there is proof.

One little well

done this to a former Crewe

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Alexandra player, Steve Walters,

where he waved his anonymity in 2016

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to come up and say this man abused

me. That is staggeringly courageous,

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especially in this game of football

where everyone is macho, I think it

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is amazing, and because of that

others then said I was. I would say

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Steve Walters has done a lot of

people some good and well done to

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him, because in the match football

that is very difficult to start

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talking about it.

And the more you

read about Barry Bennell you realise

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how devious he was and it is a

particular person who goes into a

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job where they have a petition of

trust, the parents are very keen and

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hand over trust to a football club.

They think they are being

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safeguarded, the same term used in

relation to Oxfam, and there are

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certain types of devious people who

go on to these professions because

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they know they have untrammelled

access the children.

Let's talk

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about housing because it is a story

that in different ways is on a

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couple of the front pages, and the

Telegraph runs it as its main story.

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Middle-class millennial is priced

out of housing and young

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professionals half as likely to be

homeowners as 20 years ago. Is that

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the to you?

What it doesn't do is

ask why.

What do you think is the

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reason why?

That is factual

analysis. Some of it is going to be

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because in south-east England house

prices have increased at a rate way

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beyond wages ability to borrow the

money to buy one, so good point,

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what an awful lot of other parts of

Britain that is not the case, and

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the a lot of this will be because

millennial is' choices and sense of

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priority, what they want to do has

changed. What do they do? They go

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and have expensive stagnates in Las

Vegas and weddings in the Caribbean

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and then say I can't afford a house.

I am now millennial but I bought my

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first property in 1983 on the

deposit they had to put down was

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£2600 and that was in zone to

London. I am from Manchester, let me

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land. The same person who wants to

buy a two-bedroom flat in London now

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will have today is around a bit

£80,000. They will have two be

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earning £80,000 a year.

Go up the M1

and it is not the same.

I know it is

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not the same in Birmingham

Manchester a, but the thing is if

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you have left in London all your

life or you live in the south-east

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and your job is your...

I am

agreeing with you, I am merely

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saying north of their people have

different priorities to that which

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would lead you to buying a house or

need to buy a house and one of the

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reasons as they accept renting as a

way forward if they can do other

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things. Come on!

We have got to move

on, you can be here all night as you

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usually are arguing about things.

Household products. Revealed as a

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major cause of pollution.

The word

household is misleading because yes

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it is the stuff that you put down

the toil and so on but here the

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article is talking about shampoo,

talking about deodorant. Is personal

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products. Household gives you the

connotation of stuff you clean the

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house work and this is stuff you use

on the body and it is the healing of

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it and the particular its in the ear

that get into your body and lungs

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and do damage.

This is the kind of

problem that is on the links that

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are usually sent to me and I would

think it is fake news, this is not

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the kind of guy I am. Maybe it is

meant for a big day. But this is an

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everyday product and if we are

trying to eradicate these I am not

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sure how we would replace them.

Maybe someone will come up with

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non-harmful particles but these are

embedded into our way of life just

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as processed food is.

Very quickly I

will ask you about South Africa.

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Jacob Zuma is gone and the new

president, are you optimistic? A new

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dawn?

Has to be, a new dawn for the

rainbow nation but I wish people

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would stop seeing everything went

downhill after 1994 because

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everything was worse under

apartheid.

I am privileged to have

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met all three presidents of South

Africa in office and the quality of

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governance and leadership and

inspiration declined in that time.

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He is right that compared with what

it is like under apartheid that is

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all better.

But will it improve

going ahead?

It won't get any worse.

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We are already seeing bounces and

all the economic indicators.

The

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country's standing bubble up in the

world.

He is a very skilled

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negotiator.

And he has been around a

long time. He knows how to play the

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international market.

He does and

people will be optimistic.

He wants

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to get the economy going and has to

get business and investment.

He

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knows he is only in power now

because of the failures of Jacob

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Zuma and he knows he will be judged

not just on the economy but on

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dealing with corruption.

Great to

have both with us even if you argue

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a lot. But we never talked about

Brexit.

That is a first for us!

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Henry and Digby, thank

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That's it for The Papers tonight.

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