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Hello and welcome to our look ahead

to what the the papers will be

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bringing us tomorrow.

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A bit early, even with the winter

Olympics on! That's OK, we were

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ready, poised, waiting. Look at

them.

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With me are Kevin Schofield,

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editor of Politics Home

and Katie Martin,

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the head of Fast FT.

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Many of tomorrow's front

pages are already in.

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Brexit leads the front

of the FT this weekend -

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with a picture of Theresa May

and Angela Merkel meeting

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in Berlin in the run up

to a security summit this weekend.

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The I says Mrs May warned

lives will be put at risk

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unless there is a Brexit

security deal.

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The Express

leads with Brexit too -

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the paper quotes a prominent remain

campaigner who it claims said

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Britain should stay in the EU

because older people who backed

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Brexit will "die off".

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The Telegraph have an

interview with a former

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Czech spy who claims Jeremy Corbyn

was a cold war source.

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The Labour Leader denies those

allegations in The Mail

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The Labour Leader denies those

allegations in The Mail.

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The Times headlines news

that the government has blocked

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Oxfam from applying for any more

government funding until they've

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got their house in order

after the sex scandal.

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A delighted Dom Parsons

is on the front of the Guardian

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as he picks up Bronze for Britain

in the skeleton.

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The Mirror leads with the story

of a transgender jockey hoping

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to become the first person to win

a race as both a man and a woman.

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So Brexit

and Oxfam makes several

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of the front pages,

as do

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Mr Corbyn's meetings

with a Czech official.

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Let's take a look at the FT and all

the stories coming out of the US

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throughout the evening, about

Russians who have been charged with

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interfering in US elections after

Mueller investigation. 13 Russian

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individuals and three Russian

organisations.

This story dropped

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late this afternoon, it's a pretty

explosive story. This is one of the

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results effectively of the

long-running investigation into

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potential interference. Donald Trump

has said in a number of times is

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fake news, it's nothing, nothing to

see here. Today the FBI comes along

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and indicts 13 individuals and three

groups, saying we have strong

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reasons to believe they may have

been interfering in our election,

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defrauding the US effectively. One

of the people they are looking

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closely at is someone who is

described as Putin's chef. A

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long-time associate of the Russian

president, he is the chap who runs

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the online troll factory outside St

Petersburg. There is a lot of focus

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on what extent did this kind of

online interference have any impact?

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Internet research agency, I think it

is...

The troll factory, everyone

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calls it! Obviously Trump has come

out with a tweet, because this is

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Donald Trump, saying there is

nothing to see, no collusion. This

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is the FBI, they don't muck about

and check out indictments on a

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Friday afternoon for no good reason.

This looks awkward.

At the moment it

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doesn't look like there is any

actual American involved,

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implicated, as far as we can tell

from what we've been told so far?

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Robert Mueller was making maps

pretty clear there is no Americans,

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wittingly or unwittingly, anyway, no

evidence to suggest anyone knew, any

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Americans knew, this was going on.

Interesting Donald Trump has an

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immediate response to say, I'm in

the clear, rather than this is

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pretty concerning. As President, you

would think you would be at least a

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little concerned about the fact the

US election could be at risk of

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being spun in one way or another by

a foreign country. Without

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suggesting that anything Donald

Trump knew anything about it, you

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only have to look at who was

benefiting from these activities

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allegedly, activities were targeted

at Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, opponents

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of Donald Trump, and also Hillary

Clinton. Support of Bernie Sanders

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when he was a candidate, and in

support of Donald Trump. It lends

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weight to the theory that the

Russians were upset at the prospect

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of Donald Trump becoming president.

This is the latest stage in this

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investigation. It's interesting that

it's not over any time soon, they

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are feeling their way. There has

also been a plea bargain and a

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separate charge connected to Russian

activities.

The scale of this

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investigation is just enormous.

Again, the timing of this indictment

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that has come do today is awkward

for the White House because there

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are other reports in the US press

that there are dozens, maybe

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hundreds of people working in the

White House who don't have proper

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security clearance yet, the checks

that should go through quickly have

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not gone through really quickly for

this administration. It builds up a

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picture that is pretty concerning.

Let's stay with the FT but a

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different story. Number ten games

for alignment with the EU to retain

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city access after Brexit. -- aims

for alignment. Michel Barnier not to

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be convinced yet there will be any

special plea there?

He's been at

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pains to stress there can be no

special arrangements for the UK,

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given Theresa May has made clear

Britain will be leaving the single

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market and Customs union. He said

there are enough but don't expect

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any special favours from us if

that's the case. The city has been

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lobbying hard to the government to

make the case for, they can't have

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trade barriers or substantial trade

barriers imposed that would hamper

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their activities. The Financial

Times have a good story tonight,

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which Parker, the political editor,

always a trustworthy source, he says

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basically Britain is now looking at

a system of mutual recognition

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whereby the EU and Britain would

agree on areas on which they can see

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eye to eye and recognise each

other's standards and regulations

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and how that would be policed by an

independent body. The picture there

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of Theresa May and Angela Merkel in

Munich earlier today, Angela Merkel

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has the same thing this afternoon,

what they want is more clarity from

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the government. What exactly we are

looking for with Brexit. This slowly

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surely would suggest the government

is coming up with some type of

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vision they can present to Europe.

I

don't like to correct but I think

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they were in Berlin.

They were in

Berlin? Beg your pardon, they are in

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Munich tomorrow.

It's always about

the geography with me. Curious,

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though. Wasn't that a dubious word

for the German Chancellor to use,

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that she is curious about what

Britain intends.

Well, yes. That

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sort of harks back to the

conversation that Theresa May and

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Angela Merkel had last month in

Davos where there was this whole

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report that she said, make us a

deal. Merkel is like, you are the

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ones that are leaving. It doesn't

work this way. This idea of how to

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retain a city access has been

kicking around for quite awhile, it

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has been the preferred option for a

lot of lobby groups on both sides of

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the fence for quite a long time

because it is in nobody 's interest

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that the city. Art. It's a huge tax

generator for the UK and we don't

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want to have any financial

instability, either in the UK or in

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the EU as a result of the

inevitable, what will happen when we

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leave. This is a way to try and, I'm

going to say slightly fudge it, so

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we agree on principles. But we might

differ on how to achieve those aims.

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It's a lot of fudging. It's a very

public a dead. Let's look at the i,

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another Brexit story. -- it's a very

complicated. Inevitably there will

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have to be sharing of information,

intelligence. Surely that is in

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everyone's interest.

Of course. This

is a story you can read however you

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want depending on where you stand on

the backs debate, you could see this

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as may saying, if you don't give us

a deal, lives will be at risk. It's

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almost like she is saying, this is

what is at stake, you must bend to

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our way of thinking. But underlying

the story, the security chiefs from

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the UK Germany and France came

together today, not politicians,

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security pointy heads, who said a

rare and unprecedented warning that

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said listen, politicians, you will

do what you will do, we have to keep

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working together. This is super

important for all of us. It's good

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to see they are at least trying to

figure out how to make this work.

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It's the language the Prime Minister

is using in this speech tomorrow,

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she talks about ideology and the EU

should not be ideological opposed to

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having a security arrangement with a

non-EU member state which they don't

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have at the moment and times of

anything remotely as close as

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Britain enjoys at the moment as part

of the EU. That will get quite a few

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backs up because all in Brussels

will say, hang on, surely an

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ideology is coming from London in

terms of wanting to leave the single

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market and Customs union. For the

Prime Minister to accuse the EU of

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behaving ideological rather than

pragmatically is quite punchy.

And

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then Theresa May must just point to

the US. We have always had a close

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relationship of intelligence sharing

with America.

We have close

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relationships with Australia, with

the US, lots of countries. There are

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certain legal mechanisms within the

EU over arrest warrants a kind of

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thing. They are contingent on being

part of the EU. We must either

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replace or adjust that legal

framework so that carries on

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working. It's not impossible but

it's the kind of nitty-gritty legal

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stuff and security stuff that must

get done.

Let's look at the mail.

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Kobin the collaborator in quotation

marks. Labour leader denies claim by

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checks by he was paid to pass

information to the Soviets. --

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Corbyn the collaborator. At the

height of the Cold War he was

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formerly in contact with this spy.

This was initially broken by the Son

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a couple of days ago, was at

yesterday? News that moves so fast

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these days. I think it was

yesterday. They had unearthed these

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documents in the Czech Republic,

dating back to the Cold War. Which

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showed that, or indicated, that the

cheque secret police attempted to

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make contact with Jeremy Corbyn who

at that time was a Labour

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backbencher. To maybe see if he

would be interested in being some

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kind of asset for them. As you say,

have two stress Jeremy Corbyn has

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completely said this is untrue, it's

a ridiculous Samir, entirely false.

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However the agent in question who

Jeremy Corbyn met has come out and

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he knew exactly what he was doing,

he knew I was a spy, and I know he

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has questions to answer. Quite a

good line from Jeremy Corbyn's

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office today basically saying this

has more holes in it many bad Bond

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movie.

The quote in the paper here

is, his aides described the latest

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claims as a ridiculous Samir and

entirely. All sorts of other

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allegations during the run-up to the

last allegation were made about

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Jeremy Corbyn's connections to

militant groups, the IRA, has

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Balaam. It did not affect his

popularity.

His ideological

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opponents through the book, then

another book, then they went to the

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library and got more books. Alleging

links to the IRA. Links to Hamas,

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God knows what. It did not work, it

did not affect his popularity.

It

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increased his popularity I think

among young voters. The Cold War is

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ancient history to anyone who is

under 30.

They have not lived

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through the troubles.

Absolutely, it

has zero cut through. Unless there

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is a smoking gun, some

incontrovertible evidence, then I

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don't see this going anywhere.

Even

then I'm not sure it would move the

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dial.

The times, no more money for

Oxfam. The charity not able to bid

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for government funds until it gets

its house in order.

If you can think

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of a more depressing story than this

over the past few days then you are

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doing better than I am. A strong

week for depressing stories but this

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is right up there. The government

gave Oxfam over £30 million last

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year, it's been a regular donor,

presumably one of its biggest

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donors. It has for obvious reasons

given the allegations made against

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certain individuals employed by

Oxfam, said you will not get more

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money now. Oxfam is bending over

backwards to say we are terribly

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sorry about what happened and we

will do whatever it takes to sort

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this out. Nonetheless the government

has reasonably said that's fine, but

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for now, we will not move forward

with any more funding. One of the

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things that sticks out in this

story, echoed in the story in the

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Guardian, is that the chief

executive of the charity, Mark

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Goldring, making some comments I

think my to haunt him about the

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nature of the allegations made

against his former staff, saying

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critics are gunning for the charity.

It's not as if anyone now babies in

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their cots. That might live with

him. -- it's not as if anyone

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murdered babies in their cots.

He

has either had bad advice or ignored

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the advice given to him by his PR.

Talk about pouring petrol on flames,

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those type of comments. They will

come back to haunt him.

Let's move

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on to the Telegraph. Student fees

could be cut and review of

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university funding. Also interest

rates, that student loans have to be

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paid back at, to be looked at as

well. The Conservatives trying to

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manoeuvre into position, into an

area that did well for Jeremy Corbyn

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Naseer, bearing in mind he did not

win.

You are right.

-- did well for

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Jeremy Corbyn last year.

There will

be a review of higher education

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funding. At the moment, tuition fees

are £9,250 a year. Every year, the

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university tries to charge as much

as they can. In a general election,

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Labour say they will get rid of

tuition fees completely. That

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obviously went down well with young

voters, this is the Conservatives

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attempt to address those concerns. I

think unless you are going to match

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that commitments, you are still

going to look meaner than Labour.

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The suggestion is they would be

reduced from £9,250 to £6,000 a

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year, but that is still £6,000 more

than Labour are saying. Even if you

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will reduce interest rates on

student loans again, I don't think

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that will... It's on every that the

Tories would be wise not to stray

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into unless they can come up with

something that matches Labour's

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offer. -- it's an area the Tories.

What ever they will come up with

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will look mean in comparison to what

Labour are suggesting.

Grants might

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be looked at again as well?

They are

obviously looking at the big package

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of measures. We were talking about

how young people these days don't

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remember the troubles in Ireland or

the Cold War. Our generation, we

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have no idea, these kids are leaving

university with just a massive

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amounts of debt, interest rates that

balloon on them. It's terrifying.

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Certainly I didn't leave university

with anything like that sort of

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weight on my shoulders.

Now, I had

£100 overdraft and even that raised

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eyebrows in the Cox all household.

Dad, if you are watching, you

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remember the conversation just as I

do. Finally, the Guardian. This is

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Dom Parsons, if you had never heard

of him, you will know him now. He

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has a bronze in the skeleton. The

scariest of scary Olympic Games.

It

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is pretty scary, you lie on a thing

and barrel down a hill really fast

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with a helmet on. It sounds like

this was... He was always going to

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be in contention for this but sounds

like the chap who was just in front

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of him made a mess of his last run

and hey presto, the Brits finally

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have a medal in the Winter Olympics.

Would you give it a try?

I certainly

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would not. A sledge, on a very not

steep slope is more my speed. Going

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down an essentially a tea tray, it's

remarkable.

We could try it on your

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way out. The first or headfirst.

Either way, congratulations to Dom

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Parsons. Robert who is the voice in

my ear tonight was very loyal to

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stay up and watch all of that

happen. Very impressive.

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That's it for the papers tonight.

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Don't forget you can see the front

pages of the papers online

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on the BBC News website.

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It's all there for you -

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Katie and Kevin. Just to show I

remember who they were.

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Goodbye.

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