17/02/2018 The Papers


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This week on the programme, my guest

is the best selling writer, Mick

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Herron, with his new book on the

Luke Jackson lamb...

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Hello and welcome to our look ahead

to what the the papers will be

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bringing us tomorrow.

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With me are Nigel Nelson,

political editor

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of the Sunday Mirror and Political

commentator, Jo Phillips.

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Many of tomorrow's front

pages are already in.

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We almost have an embarrassment of

riches tonight!

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The Observer investigates

Britain's prison

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system, claiming two-thirds

of prisons are providing inmates

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with inadequate conditions

or unacceptable treatment.

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The Sunday Express says Theresa May

has declared there will be "no

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going back" on Brexit.

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The Telegraph leads

on claims prominent members

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of the Labour Party met eastern bloc

agents during the Cold War.

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The Mail on Sunday has

an interview with Brendon Cox -

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the widower of murdered MP Jo Cox -

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Who has stepped down from his role

in two charities after admitting

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inappropriate behaviour with a

colleague.

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The papers says he has also stepped

down from two charities,

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set up in his late wife's memory.

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The Sunday Times says

the Education Secretary is looking

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at a number of university reforms,

including cheaper tuition

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fees for some courses.

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And the Sun on Sunday reports

on alleged marriage difficulties

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between pop stars Cheryl and Liam

Payne.

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A variety of stories for us to mull

over. We will start with a story

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that has been rumbling on. We talked

about it last night in a different

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form. The Sunday Telegraph, a

Czechoslovakian agent claims 15

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Labour MPs met with spies. It

started with Jeremy Corbyn and is

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now spreading out?

Among the 15 were

John McDonnell. They said they were

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absurd claims. It has been called

ridiculous. If you put this into

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context, we are talking about the

1980s. Eastern Europe was going

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through a major change because of

Gorbachev, the Berlin Wall coming

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down in 1989. We used to get in the

House of Commons a lot of East

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Europeans who would pop in and pop

out. You would think, well, some of

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them may be spies, maybe all of

them? You would be careful about

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talking to them! But MPs did. It

would be reasonable for MPs to do

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that on the basis that they wanted

to learn what was going on in

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eastern Europe at the time. If

Jeremy Corbyn really thought he was

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talking to a diplomat, that shows a

bit of naivete. You always have to

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imagine that these people may have

been spies. The idea that they could

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have been passing information

across, I'm not sure they had any.

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Or there is no evidence of what they

could have done.

What could Jeremy

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Corbyn in 1986 possibly have

provided about the British treatment

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or Secret Service to a

Czechoslovakian agent or spy?

And

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how many other MPs from other

parties...

Exactly. Eastern Europe

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was a big political football at the

time. They spoke to all of these

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people. If you were sensible about

it, you always thought that maybe

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this diplomat is not a diplomat, or

whatever. You would be a bit careful

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but you would listen to them.

Shall

we move on?

I think it is a bit of a

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nonstory.

Sorry! "Yes, I was a sex

pest" confesses Jo Cox's husband,

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this isn't quite what he admitted...

It absolutely isn't what he says. He

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is clearly deeply embarrassed. He

has resigned with immediate effect

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from the two charities that he was

running, set up in the wake of Jo

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Cox's murder. An astonishing tearful

confession in the Daily Mail. He

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does not say that he was a sex pest.

He says he knew that there were

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incidents when he was working with

Safety Children that people feel

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uncomfortable and it made them feel

uncomfortable. I think the story in

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itself is obviously, for him, a

great fall from grace. A public

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figure with a great deal of public

sympathy. He would of Jo Cox and the

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father of their two children. -- of

the widow. We hear this time and

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again. When men say, it was just a

bit of banter. Here, he says he

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failed to acknowledge at the time

how he made people feel

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uncomfortable but he saw his

behaviour as playful rather than

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predatory.

It shows that years

later, people can take a very

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different view?

And in fairness, he

takes a different view. While he

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doesn't go as far as admitting

allegations made against him, what

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he is actually saying is that his

behaviour was bad, he drank too

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much, some people may have felt

uncomfortable cause of it. He

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regrets of that. It shows it can

come back and haunt you years later.

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The statement from the Jo Cox

foundation says that the board has

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accepted his resignation as a

trustee, since establishing, they

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have admired the dedication that

Brendan has shown to create a

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positive legacy for Jo It was

established in 2016 for practical

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efforts to champion the cause is

that she did. He is taking a step

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back because he does not want this

to get in the way of all of that.

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Let's stay... We are moving to The

Sunday Times, I beg your pardon. "No

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Screen sex, please. We are actors!"

I think at this time of night, it is

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half term, it must be

post-watershed... I will only read

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out the first bit. Equity are

suggesting they needed a rethink

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about sex scenes, in rehearsal and

protecting actors and actresses. I

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would have thought they already did

that. There is a lovely thing here

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that says when Roger Moore had to

film a sex scene he would apologise

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in advance to the act was involved

in case she aroused him noticeably,

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which presumably means raising two

eyebrows instead of one!

And if you

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did not raise his eyebrows!

And if

nothing happened, indeed! We don't

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want to go into the details...

Perhaps at 11:30pm! But they want

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safeguarding and probably a

chaperone?

If you have the

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safeguards they mention here, you

deserve an Oscar nomination if you

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can carry them out!

I thought people

pretended to kiss each other, I

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didn't think they really did it.

In

the 1950s, the bedroom scene meant

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one that was capped on the floor --

that one foot was kept on the

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floor...

There will be an intimacy

director.

Who could possibly apply?

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Staying with The Sunday Times...

Where are we at? About seven

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minutes? Six minutes? With better

crack on! Students to get cheaper

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places at University...

What it

appears to be the case, apparently,

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is that Damian Hines, remember the

new Education Secretary, I can tell

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you what he looks like, this is his

first big interview and he is

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stamping his authority because the

government is going to order

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universities to offer students value

for money. They will slash tuition

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fees for arts and drama and

vocational courses. They are the

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ones that have expanded a lot. They

are the cheapest to run and make

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universities the most money.

Universities are concerned over the

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loss of money but I would have

thought that kids looking at that

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and think, the tuition fees are not

as high, they will be flocking to do

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these presumably not very well run

courses. It doesn't make any sense

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at all.

But some courses would be

cheaper to run.

Sue universities

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make more money?

Universities should

not be charging so much...

If one is

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5000 and another 7000... There is a

lot of arguments that one needs to

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happen is to bring back the

maintenance grant for poorer

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students to help with living costs.

But I seriously think the government

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is going to announce a cap on fees

and they will raise the level of

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income of which students have to

pay.

And abolish tuition fees

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entirely.

And unleash a wave of new

faith schools, a strange expression,

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to unleash them... And grammar

schools. We have been there before.

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Let's have a look at The Observer.

Shock figures revealed the dire

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state of Britain's prisons?

They are

shocking figures, 68% of surveyed

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prisons, they provide unsatisfactory

standards. Two inside jails are an

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acceptably unsafe. -- are unsafe. We

know that they are not fit for

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purpose. They had to build a lot

more prisons or take some of the

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84,000 prisoners out of them, and

try other forms of punishment. But

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you cannot carry on packing more

people into jail the way that we are

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at the moment, and leave them in

these conditions.

There is little

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rehabilitation going on.

And a huge

problem with drugs, particularly

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psychoactive drugs and increasing

levels of violence. What is most

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damning is not necessarily The

Observer's and research but Lord

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Woolf, he oversaw the Strangeways

enquiry after the riot in 1990. He

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says that we are in that kind of

territory, back to pre-Strangeways

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Times, which is shocking.

And Jeremy

Corbyn is under pressure? Neil

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Kinnock appears to be applying

pressure?

Apparently 20,000 Labour

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members have demanded a say on

Brexit and Neil Kinnock has halted

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the exit altogether. It is clear

that Jeremy Corbyn will be

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confronted by some people in his

Shadow Cabinet this week who want

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him to come clear on whether he

wants to remain in the single market

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and the customs union. From the

referendum, Jeremy Corbyn has never

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been clear about what his particular

stance on Brexit is. It has been

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confusing for Labour Party members

and the rest of the country.

What is

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the point?

Good question!

No, I did

not say that! Nigel, please! You

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will get me into such trouble to

even imply such a thing! What is the

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point in changing their stance?

Theresa May says there will be no

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second referendum but it is

happening.

Yes, I still think that

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there is a very small possibility

that there could be. I do think it

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is unlikely. It would mean a change

in public attitudes, and we would

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have to see it with people

protesting or whatever. I do not

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think any of those would happen.

Brexit will go ahead but there's the

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possibility that you could have a

second referendum and it would have

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to be a referendum on whether we

left, given the conditions we had.

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It isn't unreasonable for party to

ask their leader on their position.

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There are local elections coming

up...

It is now perfectly clear that

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they do not have a clue. But we do

have all of these speeches to come.

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They still have to go for an away

day to get their position sorted

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out. And Angela Merkel is curious as

to what they will come back with.

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And we all?

And in the

Independent...

A lovely photograph.

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Lizzy Yarnold successfully defending

her Winter Olympics title.

And she

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looks about ten years old. It's a

beautiful photograph. She has hit

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the record books, hasn't she? And

she is a fan of the archers. She

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calls her tea tree Mervyn.

Would you

like a go?

No! You need nerves of

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steel.

Once you start...

How do you

get into it? You cannot do it

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easily.

It isn't at most leisure

centres!

Apparently the Winter

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Olympics are very popular with

children and I think it's because it

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looks like magical scenery and not

like sports playing field.

You don't

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normally get to see these sports.

And it is great television. It is

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great to watch something like that.

When you see her shooting down

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there...

You the toboggan?

A sleigh!

With bells! And a nice and cosy rug

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to sit on. And my Father Christmas

outfit.

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That's it for The Papers this hour.

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You'll both be back in an hour.

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Next it's Meet the Author.

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