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Now on BBC News, The Papers.

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Hello, and welcome to our look

at what the papers say this morning.

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With me are City AM's Rachel

Cuncliffe and the Financial Times'

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political correspondent Henry Mance.

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Let's take a look

at those front pages.

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The Observer investigates

Britain's prison system,

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claiming two-thirds of prisons

are providing inadequate

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conditions or unacceptable

treatment for inmates.

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The Sunday Express says Theresa May

has declared there will be "no

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going back" on Brexit.

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The Telegraph leads

on claims prominent members

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of the Labour Party met Eastern Bloc

agents during the Cold War.

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The Mail on Sunday has

an interview with Brendan Cox -

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the widower of murdered MP Jo Cox -

who has stepped down from his role

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in two charities after admitting

inappropriate behaviour

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with a colleague.

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The Sunday Times says

the Education Secretary is looking

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at a number of university reforms,

including cheaper tuition

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fees for some courses.

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And the Sun on Sunday reports

on alleged marriage difficulties

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between pop stars Cheryl and Liam

Payne.

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So a variety of stories

on the front pages.

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Lets kick-off and start with The

Mail on Sunday. The Brendan Cox

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story is dominant, The Mail on

Sunday have made the running on this

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story.

Yes, he has given an

extraordinary person an in-depth

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interviews with them. Obviously this

is the husband of Jo Cox. She was

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murdered very shockingly, and has

been a hero for the charity sector

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and also talking about free speech

on migration and making MPs feel

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safe. It is a real fall from grace,

these allegations from various

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charities that he made women feel

uncomfortable and behaved in an

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inappropriate way. It's quite

interesting because obviously you've

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got that incredible headline which

is a bit misleading and then a

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couple of pages detailing the

allegations in quite a lot of

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detail.

The front-page headline

which says yes, I was a sex pest

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confesses Jo Cox's Husband.

He

doesn't use those exact words. In

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the interview lots of apologies,

lots of soul-searching, and he's one

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of the few that have actually been

accused and come forward and said

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I'm really, really sorry, I've let

myself down. It's an interesting

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juxtaposition.

What did you make of

that?

It primarily seems to relate

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to two complaints made in relation

to Brendan Cox, one when he was a

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senior figure at Save the Children

and another when he was on a

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university course at Harvard

University. He says he doesn't

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accept the precise details of the

complaint at Harvard but he

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understands that his behaviour might

have made people feel uncomfortable,

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might have been inappropriate, that

he could be seen as overstepping the

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mark. This comes down to power. He

was a very senior figure in the

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charity. The Mail on Sunday links to

the former chief executive Justin

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Forsyth. It's trying to save where

these figures untouchable, that you

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couldn't make a complaint knowing it

wouldn't affect your career. A lot

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of people will find this very sad,

given how much Brendan Cox has

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suffered and how much dignity he's

had in the aftermath of his wife's

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murder.

The paper says it is a

remarkable fall from grace, that's

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their words.

Yes, and I think you're

right about the power dynamic. Later

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in the interview he links it to the

wider More in Common movement. We've

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allegations like this in Hollywood,

Westminster, the city, now the

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charity sector. -- the Me Too

movement. He makes a point which is

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sometimes intentions don't matter,

if there is such a gaping power

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imbalance and such a lack of

oversight, you can make women feel

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very uncomfortable and unsafe

perhaps without realising. That is a

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culture change that needs to happen

across industries.

Oxfam, who has

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been so much in the spotlight over

the last few days, on the front page

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again of The Sunday Telegraph. This

is saying Oxfam new ten years ago of

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a "Urgent sex abuse problem".

This

is a report in 2008 by Save the

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Children, a report about Haiti

saying that people were being forced

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to sell sex in exchange for aid.

That was circulated to various

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charities. Oxfam say one of their

representatives went to Haiti and

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put some processes in place.

However, Oxfam admit the measures

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they put in place will probably

insufficient and also that the

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people in charge of those policies,

the country director in Haiti for

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example, they couldn't be trusted to

do that and may have compromised the

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measures. You have a real question

about what happens when complaints

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are raised and why it takes so long

to go from evidence of wrongdoing to

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proper procedures in place, and who

is ultimately responsible. If there

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are going to be bad eggs in the

system, who is in charge of routing

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them out and in searing desperately

poor people in places like Haiti are

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protected? -- ensuring desperately

poor people in places like Haiti are

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protected.

This started with Harvey

Weinstein, Hollywood, now the

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spotlight very much on the charity

sector and aid agencies.

I think

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ultimately that's a good thing, that

we are talking about this and

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allegations are coming to like and

we are having a conversation. I

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think what you get particularly with

the charity sector stories is people

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like to think that harassment and

sexual abuse is done by bad people.

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What you're getting with the Brendan

Cox story and also with aid workers

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in the charity sector is these can

be good people doing good work who

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have families, who have friends who

are not what you would consider a

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sexual predator, but who can also do

terrible things and use prostitutes.

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This story claims some children as

young as six were forced to sell

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sex. The reason it's perhaps taken

longer to get the charity sector is

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we have this idea of everyone

working in the charity sector is

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doing good work, that doesn't mean

you don't need oversight and

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structure and a process for

accusations, evidence, policies. I

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think perhaps the charity sector is

a bit complacent because we think

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about it in a positive, rosy light.

There are repercussions financially

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for people like Oxfam losing money

as a result of the publicity.

Oxfam

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has told government, but you think

ministers might have said the same

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thing anyway, that it won't bid for

new contracts. Last year they won 60

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million in contracts to do work in

Yemen and South Sudan. Over the

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medium-term, the threat is greater.

We know how much Oxfam depends on

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goodwill, how much the government

spend on aid. People have the sense

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that that is good work being done by

good people and is making Britain's

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name more popular and seen in a good

light around the world. Haiti has

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strong words to say about charities

so it's not the soft power we

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imagined.

Let's move onto happier

news which is Queen Lizzy as The

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Sunday Telegraph calls her. Lizzy

Yarnold with gold again, waving the

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union flag, a great moment.

We

weren't doing so well in the Winter

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Olympics up until this point. We got

four medals in 48 hours. I watch

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what they do and it's absolutely

terrifying. How quickly can you

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throw yourself down a chute of ice?

It's a real success story, she is

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the first Brit to have defended her

title in two Olympics in a row.

Are

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you a fan of the Winter Olympics?

It's exciting, it's just terrifying.

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You watch with your heart in your

mouth.

Are you watching it?

I am.

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You need a moment like this to get

people interested. You don't want to

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see Brits losing. There was another

sad except for Elise Christie. It

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wasn't all good news. Once you see

it's not just the Germans and the

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Dutch who are going to win

everything, you get involved. We are

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just behind Belarus in the medals

table.

The Winter Olympics are not

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our strongest sporting event, we are

good at cycling, running, those sort

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of things.

The thing everyone says

about the summer Olympics is we are

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good at the sitting down sports.

Rowing, horse riding, cycling and

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now this as well.

And running with

Mo Farah.

She's using the technology

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that these British spy -- that the

British cyclists use for their

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suits.

Prisons in The Observer

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British cyclists use for their

suits.

Prisons in The Observer.

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Another depressing report.

We have a

new prisons minister, Rory Stewart.

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He's come out and said that the

state of some jails is deeply

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disturbing. This is fairly amazing.

You see various people in charge of

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prisons in the government come out

and almost trash the government's

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record and admit things haven't been

at all good.

It's not just this

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government, this is a problem that's

been going on for decades.

That is

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the case. The type of language being

used is really strong. In terms of

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figures we are talking about self

harm going up over 10% in the past

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year, assaults going up 10%, a lot

of those on staff. Fewer than 10% of

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prisons are seen as good. If you're

thinking about rehabilitation, in

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the earlier years of the Cameron

government there was this idea that

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people should be spending less time

in prison, get them out,

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rehabilitate them. Michael Gove have

the same idea. The facilities

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themselves are not living up to

that.

There are people who will say

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actually prisons aren't meant to be

nice, who cares if they are awful

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because they're awful people

prisons.

They are meant to be safe

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for both the prisoners and the staff

who work there. The government has a

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duty of care, which is clearly

failing. One of the statistics is

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44% of prisons are unsafe. The

second one is an economic argument

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which is it costs a lot of money to

keep people in prison and you should

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want people leaving and trying to

rebuild their lives afterwards.

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There's an interesting quote from

the Conservative chair of the

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Justice select committee Bob Neill

who says we need to have a

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discussion about what is the point

of prisons. If they are just for

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punishment, then your argument is OK

but if we actually want people

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engaged with society when they leave

and we want to stop them going back

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and save money, we need to be

focusing on education and

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rehabilitation. So many people, like

you say, don't want to spend money

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on prisons, because it seems like a

waste. It's an easy way to cut the

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budget and looks like there are no

consequences but clearly they are.

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The Sunday Times with a focus today

on the cost of going to university.

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University fees which has been a big

political headache for Labour, the

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lbw Democrats and conservatives. A

lot of older people who know their

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children might incur these costs are

concerned about it as well. The new

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Education Secretary Damian Hinds is

launching a consultation which could

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see the Fifa certain subjects

dropped. If you've got subjects

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which are less expensive to teach

compared to medicine or physics, the

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arts degrees and social science

degrees would be cheaper. Also the

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interest rate at which students paid

back would be cut.

It is currently

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6.1%, which seems...

You can accrue

£5,000 worth of interest before you

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finish your course. Is linked to

RPI. Basically no one is going to

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pay back their student loan. I did

classics, another useless degree.

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They say the ones that are cheaper

to teach should be cheaper to

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students. I've heard the alternate

which is the one is more useful to

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society, I mean I think Classics is

useful but medicine and engineering,

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we talk a lot about the skills gap.

If you're doing something to fill

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the skills gap you should be

subsidised more. There are different

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arguments. I think that politically

the Conservatives are never going to

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win over a majority of students.

They will never beat Labour which is

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the policy of scrapping tuition

fees. The Conservatives have a youth

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problem, its defining youth. Really

it's anyone under 40. If they want

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to increase their voucher rather

than going after students they

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should go after people in their late

20s and 30s and talking about

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housing and policies to do with

building on the green belt or

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liberalising planning laws. That

would be better for them politically

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than trying to win over students

which they are never going to do.

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We're going to end up with The

Sunday Times again and an

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interesting new rule about how to

film sex in the movies. I suppose

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it. As with the Harvey Weinstein and

the idea that you wouldn't have any

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nudity in auditions, very strict

rules on how they filmed. What did

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you make of this?

This is something

coming out of Equity. We've been

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told by actors that sex scenes are

very unsexy, but it's not a nice

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thing to film. There are some issues

such as do you kiss with tongues

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when filming these themes. -- these

scenes. The problem again is power.

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Male writers, male directors, male

actors being paid more and female

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actors may be feeling cajoled. Maybe

these restrictions would balance

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things a bit.

Is this a reform we

need?

These are professionals. One

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of the examples in the story is an

actress at 19 filming a sex scene

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where there was quite explicit

content but the director

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deliberately didn't tell her about

it because he wanted her to "React

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as a girl not have an actress". That

is very sinister and not treating

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her as a professional. I think it is

about giving them respect. Clearly

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they can film realistic sex scenes

in a professional and safe way and

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they should be doing that.

Thank you

for coming in to review the papers

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today.

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That's it for The Papers

this morning.

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Goodbye.

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