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Hello and welcome to our look ahead

to what the the papers will be

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bringing us tomorrow.

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With me are journalist Yasmin

Alibhai-Brown and Penny Smith,

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who is a journalist and broadcaster.

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We might have trouble!

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Many of tomorrow's front

pages are already in.

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While the Beast from the East

subsides and the snow melts,

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The Observer takes stock

of the financial cost the wintry

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weather has taken on the country,

suggesting it's cost us

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£1 billion per day.

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The Sunday Times leads

on an investigation into how

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internet giants may be implicated

in the trafficking

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of vulnerable women.

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The paper also looks ahead

to tomorrow night's Oscars

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with a picture of Gary Oldman,

who has the Best Actor nod

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for playing the part

of Winston Churchill

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The actor also takes centre stage

on the front of The Telegraph

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alongside the paper's top story,

which looks at the way BBC

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presenters' salaries are taxed.

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The top story for The Mail

is the latest gossip

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from within Theresa May's Cabinet.

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Boris and dirty tricks... We will

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Boris and dirty tricks... We will

talk about that later! And when we

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look at Penny Smith... Kami? She has

a very nice Ginette?

Especially for

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here.

She looks gorgeous.

We are

shocked. She knows what a woman must

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do, she must cook and she must be

able to take part in selling.

Shall

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we talk about the papers?

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The Sunday Times, pop-up brothels,

the internet giants, Number 10

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considering new laws... What is

wrong, Fiona? Do you want that? This

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is the top story. Number 10

considering new laws on sex

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trafficking. How can internet giants

like Facebook and Google become

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implicated?

That is where you do the

search engines and that is where

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people find these brothels and that

is the way that they are profiting

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so what they are saying is they have

been discovered in Cornwall,

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Swindon, holiday cottages in the

Peak District, enraging the Bishop

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of Derby and the Sunday Times find

three such clubs operating last week

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near Hyde Park in central London so

what happens is Google and Facebook,

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they are used to buy these sex

traffickers to kind of pimp these

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victims and it is very difficult

because every time we talk about

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something like this and it happens

with terrorism also... They come

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back to say, free speech.

And that

is always... And that is what it is

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really about, the whole thing of the

internet, a space that is totally

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free, it has done amazing things.

The Arab Spring. Is lots of

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censorship. But increasingly, I

think that it is unsustainable

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because it is the terrorism

websites, the child abuse websites,

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the deep internet with the most

horrific things are being peddled.

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They are profiting directly from

these brothels. They are enabling?

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They are not developing a method of

regulation, I suppose.

I cannot

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understand... We can send Tesla cars

into space and all sorts of other

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incredible things and yet we cannot

develop algorithms to stop... What

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search words do you put end to find

these?

Why can you not stop that? It

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is more ubiquitous, these assaults

especially on women or people of

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colour or anybody they do not like,

when you talk to these people on

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Facebook and the internet giants,

they say, it is not my problem.

I

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think it is. How do they, with all

the will in the world, harness all

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of this? It is so enormous, the

scale of it.

These men are very

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clever, if they wanted to, they

would develop some technical way.

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And they are, doing something with

the Isis websites and so on. I think

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they have... It is just where

newspapers and broadcasters are, you

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just cannot have freedom without

responsibility.

They would say they

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are not publishers.

One way or

another. They are conduits. My other

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peer is that does this go into the

dark web, and becomes evermore,

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located?

At start with what is

obvious. I think this thing happened

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and the culture did not catch up and

now cultural awareness is catching

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up and it is not a bad thing.

Brexit

is never far away.

At that point,

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lots of people but on a cup of tea!

A glass of wine!

Not again! Two

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stories on Brexit. To do with the

Conservatives again, the Mail on

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Sunday... Shall I hold this up

again? The Mail on Sunday, we have

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these augmented reality graphics and

yet we are holding up some paper! It

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is here. Boris in new dirty tricks

row with Number 10. Gavin Barwell,

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accused of leaking a letter that

Boris Johnson wrote, playing down

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the impact of a heart border between

the Republic of Ireland and Northern

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Ireland.

Yes, tittle tattle, it does

not deserve three pages. You just

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have to say Boris and it is like

this lightning rod, everything gets

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very exciting. This is about the

difficulties of saying to the world,

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to the party and everything, that

speech Theresa May made, it bonded

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everybody, including Remainers, and

it was not a bad speech, not bad,

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but the deep conflicts within the

country and within our own party

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will not be easily fixed.

They will

never be reconciled. We just have to

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be grown up about this and say, we

are poles apart, let's come

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together. And at the picture of

Boris and it is like the Beast from

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the East because he is in Budapest,

holding up that letter. Which is not

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the leaked letter at the centre of

the dirty tricks row but it is

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allegedly the speech from the

Mansion House, where he is allegedly

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giving the thumbs up.

He has also

said, what did he say? This is a

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nonsense claim from an anonymous

source. The denials will climb in.

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It does make you realise, these are

all available to fights within the

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party and the plotters, there is

nothing like conservative potters.

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They even got rid of Margaret

Thatcher, the woman who gave him the

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world, whether you liked her or

not...

It is not over. The Observer

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has another take on this. The Tory

Brexit unity fades as Heseltine

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slams Theresa May's speech. Lord

Heseltine has been very outspoken

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about the folly of Brexit.

The

former Deputy Prime Minister

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dismissing her latest speech as just

more phrases, generalisations and

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platitudes which have done nothing

to make a deal more unlikely. He

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talks about, we have been talking

about cherry picking and he says the

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speech moves us further down the

cherry picking road and sets at the

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cherries Britain wants to pick...

We

haven't got the migrant workers to

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pick those cherries! As a socialist,

I hate saying this... I have grown

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to really admire Heseltine and not

just recently, a very competent man.

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In Liverpool they want to build a

statue for him because he did such

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good work in Liverpool. All that

regeneration work. He has been right

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on this all along and much as I hate

his wealth and his land... You

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signed envious! I am very happy in

my flat.

I think he is right on

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this. It is just not... The problem

is, if anybody thought this was

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going to be sorted out in any shape

or form, it isn't, even when it is

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as over as it will be at some

stage... In two years or 22 years...

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I spoke to Bernard Jenkin yesterday

about the speech and he was quite

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content with that.

There are

others...

Jacob Rees-Mogg said that

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he thinks...

Do you believe these

guys? They are very outspoken, if

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they don't like what she is doing.

We're coming to the stage... Very

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little time left. For the

practicalities. I don't believe, I

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really don't, that there is... It

was a good speech. But these guys, I

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would not ever want to be leader of

the Tory Party like I would ever be!

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You never know! Stranger things have

happened. The Telegraph. Here you

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go. I have this extra job to do. The

stars turn on BBC over tax stitcher.

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This is confiscated but it has to do

with the fact that a lot of

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presenters were encouraged, or they

would say, forced, to set up

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personal service companies in the

late 1990s and early 2000s if they

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wanted to engage with the BBC. And

it has to do with whether that was

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an appropriate way for them to have

run their business affairs.

What I

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don't understand, the Telegraph has

gone big on this... What does the

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BBC Get Out of it?

Nothing.

It saves

National Insurance contributions.

Is

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that it?

That is quite a lot of

money. I think a lot of presenters

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and other people have done this for

their own reasons.

They also save,

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the BBC... ISA and it was also about

saving because you don't have to...

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If you are not staff you don't have

to pay anything else.

It is very

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expensive to employ people because

you have to pay National Insurance,

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sick pay...

But you have freelance

contracts, many of us have lived

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freelance lines. We have never felt

pressured to get into these deals. I

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don't understand.

It is very

confusing. There is a feeling or

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sense that HMRC was content with

this and they are not content with

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it and now the rules mean that HMRC

wants as many people as possible to

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pay their tax at source through the

pay as you earn system. I am not

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affected by this! Full disclosure!

This is a fiendishly conjugated tax

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situation that people find

themselves in and they will have to

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try to unpack this and if they were

in the wrong tax vehicle, the wrong

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tax status or employment status,

they could end up having to back pay

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tax.

It has happened with one

presenter, at least.

Co-presenter of

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Look North.

Nearly £500,000 tax

bill. It is not just conjugated,

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this is a mighty mess.

Mightily

worrying for those affected.

There

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are enemies of the BBC who have been

waiting for these things to happen.

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Let's go back to The Times.

Crackdown on nimby councils. But in

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my backyard. Normally individuals

than authorities?

This is about how

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they are trying to... We need more

houses and we need more affordable

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housing, we keep on saying this and

the problem is, there seem to be

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various loopholes that developers

seem to be able to exploit so they

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can do fewer affordable households

and it used to be in the past that

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we had various other places were

people who were essential workers

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but did not get paid a huge amount

could rent cheaply or buy houses

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astutely and we don't have those

options any more and we are building

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these times and in these places

between Oxford and Cambridge, for

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example, they are talking about

three huge times being built. And,

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of course, for the people who live

around in this little villages, you

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are talking about years of

disruption and that sort of thing.

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Is that the right place?

If the

councils don't building enough

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houses the government will

intervene.

The London Mayor has been

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quite strong on this because he has

seen through some of these loopholes

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and not only are these big

developers not building enough

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affordable housing but they are

basing the affordable on something

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that is completely wrong because as

prices go up, they put the

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affordable at an impossible place.

Like you said, nurses and doctors

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and teachers simply would not be

able to afford them. I think there

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needs to be a real mission to

create... Like when the welfare

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state was created. Part of a

nation's mission.

Public housing is

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the way to go.

Where do you get the

land from? A lot of those sites are

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being held by developers, waiting

for the right moment, they might

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have paid a lot of money for that

and did not give that away for a

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song.

Do you know how much of

Britain is built upon? It is so

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tiny, the decorously tiny, less than

5%. We have an extraordinary panic

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about being built up and there is a

lot of space.

When they say that,

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they take into account loads of

areas where you cannot even really

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build houses.

These things are more

possible than we have thought but I

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think it has to be a government led

thing, not led by the developers.

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You cannot just -- just put houses

in the middle of the field. You have

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to have all the infrastructure and

amenities and services, hospitals,

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doctors, schools?

Milton Keynes. It

works quite well. That was a

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mission, something they did.

We will

finish with Gary Oldman, on the

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front of the Sunday Times, nominated

for an Oscar for Best Actor, I

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think. And he almost did not take

that part?

Look at the difference.

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It is astonishing is the way that he

played Churchill, astonishing.

You

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just do not recognise him at all.

No. He does not look anything

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like... Just transformed! Who shall

be cast as Churchill? You would not

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think Gary Oldman.

He almost did not

take that, he thought so many people

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have played Churchill better than I

could hope for and here he is.

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Amazing actor.

The range of roles he

has taken on. And he has never won

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this.

He did win the Bafta last

month so we have recognised him. I

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quite like these old school things,

making it up as you go along, but

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had the graphics. It is not like

that every night!

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That's it for The Papers this hour.

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We'll be back at 11.30pm

for another look.

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Hopefully with graphics!

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