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Welcome to the Isle of Man. This is one of the best but turfed medieval | :00:10. | :00:14. | |
castles in each Europe. For hundreds of years it was the seat | :00:14. | :00:22. | |
of power here on the islands. This was the old capital. Now it has | :00:22. | :00:30. | |
moved to the Tynwald building in Douglas. It contains the upper and | :00:30. | :00:35. | |
lower houses of parliament. On 29th September, the Ireland goes to the | :00:35. | :00:45. | |
polls to elect the eight members of that house. Election comes at a | :00:45. | :00:49. | |
crucial time for the Isle of Man. We will be looking at the major | :00:49. | :00:53. | |
issues and asking some of the candidates how they would tackle | :00:53. | :01:03. | |
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. When this castle was built and the Middle Ages, the Isle of Man | :01:11. | :01:16. | |
was rolled over by the Norse King's. It has been fought over by the | :01:16. | :01:21. | |
Scottish and the English and eventually became a British | :01:21. | :01:26. | |
dependency in 1765. How has it done since then and how does it compare | :01:26. | :01:36. | |
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to the North West of England? His our look at the vital statistics. | :01:40. | :01:49. | |
1.9% of the population is unemployed. North West unemployment | :01:49. | :01:58. | |
is a 0.1%. The average house price here is nearly �289,000. The North | :01:59. | :02:08. | |
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This here her national income is expected to be �535 million. We are | :02:15. | :02:24. | |
expected to spend 533 million. is spent on benefits and nearly 31 | :02:24. | :02:31. | |
% is spent on health. Nearly 22% of the population are employed by the | :02:31. | :02:39. | |
Government. 23 % and employed by insurance, banking and the finance | :02:39. | :02:48. | |
business. Those are some of the statistics, but what are the big | :02:48. | :02:54. | |
issues? Possibly one of the biggest issues at the moment is VAT. I am | :02:54. | :03:01. | |
in the north of the island. Back when the Isle of Man was a major | :03:01. | :03:06. | |
smuggling centre boats from here supplied Scotland and Cumbria with | :03:06. | :03:14. | |
contraband. In the last two years the UK has changed an agreement | :03:14. | :03:24. | |
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costing islanders around one-third of their income. Since the 13th | :03:25. | :03:30. | |
century the Isle of Man has enjoyed a variable relationship with its | :03:30. | :03:40. | |
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neighbour across the Irish Sea. For the past 250 years the Isle of Man | :03:41. | :03:45. | |
and the UK has had an agreement which means neither pays import | :03:45. | :03:52. | |
duty. The VAT is divided out between both jurisdictions. That is | :03:52. | :03:59. | |
all well and good until 2009 when the UK Government decided the | :03:59. | :04:04. | |
calculation needed looking at. That resulted in the island having its | :04:04. | :04:13. | |
share reduced, this year it again took another 75 million, altogether | :04:13. | :04:23. | |
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around one-third of the annual budget. It is a lot of money. | :04:24. | :04:31. | |
think it is unfair and the UK seems to regard the Isle of Man as fair | :04:31. | :04:35. | |
game for raiding their reserves. have to challenge the British | :04:35. | :04:40. | |
Government and come to a proper agreement on VAT. It is like when | :04:40. | :04:46. | |
we had reads from the Vikings. At least the Vikings settled here and | :04:46. | :04:52. | |
into married. A survey was commissioned on key election issues, | :04:52. | :04:57. | |
one of them is the relationship with the UK. Half of the people | :04:57. | :05:02. | |
felt we had the right amount of independence, the other half felt | :05:02. | :05:07. | |
we should have more independence. We asked about the quality of the | :05:07. | :05:12. | |
relationship with the UK and overall it was slightly better than | :05:12. | :05:17. | |
before. We asked if it had got better, worse or stayed the same, | :05:17. | :05:24. | |
it was said to have Beattie related. The Channel Islands have their own | :05:24. | :05:30. | |
sales tax. The business community here says that would not work. | :05:30. | :05:40. | |
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of the things that makes the Isle of Man a good place to do business | :05:40. | :05:46. | |
is our VAT arrangement. If it was discarded we would have to look at | :05:46. | :05:55. | |
what was in its place. Here in the Manx Museum the island's history is | :05:55. | :06:04. | |
laid out. It is largely independent but still with important links. In | :06:04. | :06:10. | |
recent years the UK has faced calls from Scotland and Wales for more | :06:10. | :06:15. | |
independence. Is it time for de Isle of Man, too, to loosen those | :06:15. | :06:23. | |
ties. People are British and happy to be part of the British Isles. | :06:23. | :06:30. | |
They want to remain so. With me is the man who presided over at those | :06:30. | :06:40. | |
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two Cannes adjustments. When you got back where you two week? -- two | :06:43. | :06:53. | |
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VAT adjustments. I do not think so. The basis of the agreement goes | :06:58. | :07:04. | |
back some time. The UK was keen to readjust the aid payment due to | :07:04. | :07:10. | |
changes in the economy of the Isle of Man. The Isle of Man fought its | :07:10. | :07:16. | |
case and we argued our. Very firmly, we have been able to get to a State | :07:16. | :07:20. | |
of agreement. It is difficult but we will deal with that and our | :07:20. | :07:25. | |
economy continues to develop. It could have been worse if the UK had | :07:25. | :07:35. | |
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made a decision to end the customs agreement. Some people clearly feel | :07:39. | :07:44. | |
there should be a referendum on the Isle of Man before that deal is | :07:45. | :07:52. | |
formally expected, do you think that is at goal were? No. I think | :07:52. | :07:56. | |
they would have to explain to the people the complexity of the | :07:56. | :08:06. | |
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agreement. -- goer. We hear that we are lacking commercial ability and | :08:12. | :08:16. | |
strong leadership, what has gone wrong? I do not think anything has | :08:16. | :08:22. | |
gone wrong, those are the views of a few individuals. The Isle of Man | :08:22. | :08:29. | |
economy has continued to grow year on year. I think we have been very | :08:29. | :08:38. | |
effective especially in the current global economic situation. What | :08:38. | :08:43. | |
will you be doing in your retirement? Hopefully not too much | :08:43. | :08:48. | |
but I will have interests in my local community and continue to be | :08:48. | :08:56. | |
involved fear. The biggest employer on the island is the Government. | :08:56. | :09:01. | |
Because of the VAT deal, tens of millions of pounds have to be saved | :09:01. | :09:05. | |
and a debate has begun on whether the Government should be scaling | :09:05. | :09:11. | |
back. It has become a difficult journey for Protours, a travel | :09:11. | :09:19. | |
company that can trace its ancestry to the 1920s. We go back to what | :09:19. | :09:24. | |
was tour's Isle of Man. Now its future is in doubt after losing a | :09:25. | :09:34. | |
valuable Government contract. is a slogan, Freedom to Flourish. | :09:34. | :09:40. | |
It is not helping us to flourish. Some of the dead wood should be cut | :09:40. | :09:43. | |
out and we should get a new Government with commercial ability | :09:43. | :09:49. | |
which I think has been lacking in this last one. It is not just | :09:49. | :09:55. | |
private sector worries but unions to. As ministers retune the | :09:55. | :10:01. | |
economic engine 400 posts have so far been closed. Unions question | :10:01. | :10:08. | |
the plan. What we need to see from the Isle of Man Government is some | :10:08. | :10:13. | |
strong leadership. We need a strategy to deal with common | :10:13. | :10:21. | |
problems. Those things have been absent. Both unions and business | :10:21. | :10:25. | |
will be expecting a lot from whoever takes over here at | :10:25. | :10:31. | |
Government House. The Treasury is going to be driving through a one- | :10:31. | :10:37. | |
third cut in public spending. Things will have to come into | :10:37. | :10:42. | |
consideration, for example, whether we should carry on running our | :10:42. | :10:48. | |
local bus service, should we done our airport, should we be running | :10:48. | :10:54. | |
leisure centres? It may not be a case of cutting those services but | :10:54. | :11:00. | |
finding a commercial way of being able to deliver them. Those | :11:00. | :11:05. | |
decisions will change the way the next generation of islanders live | :11:05. | :11:09. | |
their lives. Charities and voluntary groups are likely to | :11:09. | :11:17. | |
become more important. Small island, Big Society. In the last few years | :11:17. | :11:22. | |
we have worked very closely with the Isle of Man Government. They | :11:22. | :11:28. | |
are much more savvy about what the third sector does and how much we | :11:28. | :11:33. | |
are putting into the economy. Together we are working side by | :11:33. | :11:41. | |
side which is actually a real first for the Isle of Man. There are a | :11:41. | :11:51. | |
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lot of churches on the island? churches. I hope very much that the | :11:52. | :11:57. | |
people who are elected will not only be those who are worried about | :11:57. | :12:01. | |
the prosperity of the island but are actually bothered about | :12:01. | :12:06. | |
individuals. For this bishop that means cuts would be balanced with | :12:06. | :12:14. | |
tax increases. Isn't it almost morally obligatory that richer | :12:14. | :12:22. | |
people pay more tax? Simply for me to say that without knowing how far | :12:22. | :12:29. | |
you could call with increasing the taxes without effectively telling | :12:29. | :12:36. | |
the goose that lays the golden egg, I don't know. The island has a | :12:36. | :12:44. | |
major advantage, reserves of about �1 billion. Unlike the UK, they | :12:44. | :12:49. | |
really did save up for an rainy day. The trouble is, nobody knows how | :12:49. | :12:59. | |
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This is Cregneash Folk Village. The place to come to come to get a | :13:09. | :13:12. | |
taste of what rural life was like here in the 19th century. Back then | :13:13. | :13:16. | |
if you wanted a house you built your own. These days, it's a bit | :13:16. | :13:20. | |
more expensive. House prices here are around 75% higher than the UK | :13:20. | :13:29. | |
average. This is undoubtedly a beautiful place to live. Norman | :13:29. | :13:32. | |
Wisdom, Jeremy Clarkson and Nigel Mansell just a few who have made | :13:32. | :13:36. | |
the island their home. But these days, many born and bred Manx are | :13:36. | :13:41. | |
having trouble doing the same. The Isle of Man has some of the highest | :13:41. | :13:44. | |
house prices in the region - the average �288,000 - and politians | :13:44. | :13:54. | |
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realise this is an issue that can't be ignored. Paul and Jessica Norman | :13:55. | :13:58. | |
moved into their house in Douglas with their 18-month-old daughter | :13:58. | :14:01. | |
Rebecca a year ago. It's brand new and spacious, but most importantly | :14:01. | :14:10. | |
it's theirs. There is a primary school and park and it is all | :14:10. | :14:15. | |
within 10 minutes' walk. We can be happier, very lucky. When I left | :14:15. | :14:21. | |
school and started work and time was burning, I was looking into | :14:21. | :14:26. | |
properties and I thought that is not even in reach, the price. It | :14:26. | :14:34. | |
was very intimidating, so to speak, the housing market. They were held | :14:34. | :14:38. | |
by something called the first time by a scheme, and grants and loans | :14:38. | :14:43. | |
scheme to help them get on the property ladder. Over the last 10 | :14:43. | :14:50. | |
years the island government has also funded and invested in housing. | :14:50. | :14:55. | |
To have waiting list has risen and there are more than 900 people on | :14:55. | :14:59. | |
the first time buyers register. Then there are those who are not | :14:59. | :15:09. | |
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even on a list. Shaun and Hannah are just two of the many who've | :15:11. | :15:13. | |
sought help from the island's homeless charity. Different stories | :15:13. | :15:17. | |
that brought them to the same place. Shaun had his own business, a home. | :15:17. | :15:21. | |
But circumstances meant he ended up in a guest house. Hannah and her | :15:21. | :15:25. | |
family were evicted when she was 15, they ended up on the streets, then | :15:25. | :15:34. | |
she was taken into care. We ended up one day at the autumn of | :15:34. | :15:39. | |
Broadway with the back, in the rain with my mum and step dad who are | :15:39. | :15:43. | |
both registered blind. And nowhere to go. Both have now got | :15:43. | :15:45. | |
accommodation, but the charity believes the island's homeless | :15:45. | :15:53. | |
population is bigger than people like to think. It needs to be | :15:53. | :15:57. | |
excepted as a social issue and with a new administration coming in | :15:57. | :16:01. | |
September it needs to be on the agenda and we need to discuss the | :16:01. | :16:06. | |
causes of homelessness and what we can do to reduce to Lovells. Much | :16:06. | :16:11. | |
of the homelessness that people refer to would be called so for | :16:11. | :16:15. | |
certain. It is people that have a room over their head due to the | :16:15. | :16:18. | |
generosity of friends and family but don't have a permanent place of | :16:18. | :16:24. | |
residence. We have to prioritise resources to where everything we | :16:24. | :16:27. | |
can make most benefit. But even with budgets squeezed, the Manx | :16:27. | :16:30. | |
Labour party believes a large scale building programme is the answer to | :16:30. | :16:37. | |
the island's housing problems It's called the Jewel of the Irish Sea. | :16:37. | :16:42. | |
We cannot budget for a deficit. There are sectors of the economy | :16:42. | :16:45. | |
which are presently having a difficult time, such as | :16:45. | :16:49. | |
construction, and they could not be a better time to continue a | :16:49. | :16:55. | |
programme of housebuilding and improving the infrastructure. | :16:55. | :17:00. | |
called the jewel of the Irish Sea. But for many, owning a bit of this | :17:00. | :17:09. | |
precious island is still just a little out of their reach. This is | :17:09. | :17:14. | |
the old House of Keys whether politicians sat until 1874 when | :17:14. | :17:18. | |
they moved to their current premises in Douglas. I am joined by | :17:18. | :17:24. | |
six of the candidates contesting the seat in the constituency. They | :17:24. | :17:29. | |
are Treasury minister Anne Craine, economic to the German minister | :17:29. | :17:38. | |
Alan Bell, former MHK and pharmacist, Leonard Singer, John | :17:38. | :17:42. | |
McDonough, Business woman Linda Bowers-Kasch, and accountant Lawrie | :17:42. | :17:48. | |
Cooper. The island faces difficult times, I think he would all agree. | :17:48. | :17:54. | |
The cut in budget of around a third. The big question is how we is to | :17:54. | :17:58. | |
Ireland go to deal with that? Anne Craine, as Treasury Minister, the | :17:58. | :18:03. | |
burden falls upon you. Is it time that taxes need to be raised on the | :18:03. | :18:10. | |
island? We did raise taxes 18 months ago and I think that we need | :18:10. | :18:18. | |
to bear in mind very clearly that the Isle of Man knees to retain a | :18:18. | :18:21. | |
competitive tax rate so I do not personally think it is time to | :18:21. | :18:28. | |
raise taxes again. Readjusting our budget will be addressed by many | :18:28. | :18:34. | |
strategies, raising taxes is one of them, contracting power capital | :18:34. | :18:37. | |
programme is another, reducing government expenditure is yet | :18:37. | :18:46. | |
another. Alan Bell you are also a former Treasury minister. If you're | :18:46. | :18:52. | |
not going to raise taxes, it looks tours job losses, doesn't it? | :18:52. | :18:57. | |
worth reflecting that we have already embarked on replanting | :18:57. | :19:01. | |
programme. I started it when I was Treasury minister some 18 months | :19:02. | :19:07. | |
ago. We have a five-year recovery plan which has included tax rises. | :19:07. | :19:13. | |
We have already bought that in. We are already substantially reducing | :19:13. | :19:17. | |
public expenditure. We are looking at all ways of raising funds and we | :19:17. | :19:22. | |
must not lose sight on the fact that we have strong reserves and no | :19:22. | :19:28. | |
external debt. Linda Bowers-Kasch, you have worked in the banking | :19:28. | :19:31. | |
industry, do you think the government is going down the right | :19:31. | :19:37. | |
route? I think we do need to stay competitive. What I would like to | :19:37. | :19:43. | |
see more of his driving value-for- money. What do you think they | :19:43. | :19:49. | |
should be doing? A think it is well known to people in business that | :19:49. | :19:57. | |
there are ways to work more efficiently. Looking at the way | :19:57. | :20:03. | |
services are provided. If you can drive economies and deficiencies in | :20:03. | :20:07. | |
that way that will help us to protect impact on frontline | :20:07. | :20:17. | |
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services. The difficulty here it is that this Government, or to last | :20:18. | :20:22. | |
government, did not prepare properly. They knew that they were | :20:22. | :20:26. | |
getting far too much in the VAT agreement and yet instead of | :20:27. | :20:31. | |
putting money aside trying to us news that the economy, it did not | :20:31. | :20:37. | |
happen and money was allocated. We're dipping into the researchers | :20:37. | :20:44. | |
now. No, we are not. You have said you're going to. That was an option | :20:44. | :20:48. | |
and we have not dipped into any reserves and we are ahead of | :20:48. | :20:55. | |
programme. Are you going to have to? The that may well be the | :20:55. | :21:04. | |
situation. We had 140 million taken from us and before the Budget | :21:04. | :21:09. | |
everyone had to pull in their belts. We then had a budget which was all | :21:09. | :21:15. | |
smoke and mirrors are. And then the UK took another 75 million from us. | :21:15. | :21:19. | |
In two years' time we'll be 200 million shorten this island and we | :21:19. | :21:25. | |
have to try to replace that. you get the figures right in the | :21:26. | :21:30. | |
first place because we were not talking about 140 million, we were | :21:30. | :21:38. | |
talking about 100. It is to just put in the VAT level. Lawrie Cooper, | :21:38. | :21:44. | |
you're an accountant. How would you deal with this? We have to be ready | :21:44. | :21:49. | |
to consider everything. The right approach is to look at the current | :21:49. | :21:59. | |
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taxation system and say is this right for the Isle of Man? This is | :22:22. | :22:24. | |
the proper on the previous administration has that they have | :22:24. | :22:28. | |
things that they want to investigate. They like things the | :22:28. | :22:33. | |
way you it is you have to look at everything government is doing. | :22:33. | :22:40. | |
would companies queue this if they change the way there tax was done. | :22:40. | :22:45. | |
It is such a large part of the island's business, with companies | :22:45. | :22:49. | |
setting up on the island. We cannot afford to scare them off so we need | :22:49. | :22:55. | |
be very careful what we do. We are seen as a low-tax jurisdiction and | :22:55. | :23:00. | |
we don't want to upset that. this economic climate can you | :23:00. | :23:10. | |
afford still live like that. Let us face it, we should build on the | :23:10. | :23:14. | |
things that work for us as well. should look to how we improved in | :23:14. | :23:19. | |
other areas, such as smarter working practices, but also, when | :23:19. | :23:25. | |
we look at the groom is that we have in place, how robust is a | :23:25. | :23:30. | |
review process of those agreements internally? Is there room to | :23:30. | :23:35. | |
improve upon that? Learning lessons from the passer that in the future | :23:35. | :23:42. | |
we are better prepared and we have better contingency for that. | :23:43. | :23:47. | |
need more government scrutiny. There has been very little if any | :23:47. | :23:50. | |
Cubbon scrutiny. We are not going to have that money in the future | :23:50. | :23:54. | |
and I really believe that we have to look at economies, we have to | :23:55. | :24:02. | |
look at savings. Should any of these responsibilities be put out | :24:02. | :24:06. | |
to the private sector? government here on the island to | :24:06. | :24:12. | |
be? Does it need to be scaled down? Do you need to be contracting out | :24:12. | :24:17. | |
services? I have warned on the number of occasions that government | :24:17. | :24:23. | |
was getting to pick. We employ something like 20% of the Ireland's | :24:24. | :24:30. | |
workforce. That is unsustainable in the long term. The government is | :24:31. | :24:35. | |
not like a private company. It to shed staff in one sector of | :24:35. | :24:38. | |
government than the bill is passed on to social security or other | :24:38. | :24:48. | |
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areas. I should just picking up about zero rate of corporation tax. | :24:53. | :24:58. | |
We would lose a substantial part of economy and it would derail any | :24:58. | :25:06. | |
balancing that we were doing. This is why people are asking the | :25:06. | :25:11. | |
question, people on the street asking are we doing what is right. | :25:11. | :25:21. | |
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Government continued tells us to trust us in what we're doing. | :25:22. | :25:25. | |
very clear and when we refer back to the comments about greater | :25:25. | :25:30. | |
scrutiny, let us look at the record that the Isle of Man has had over | :25:30. | :25:34. | |
the last 25 years of economic growth. The spending that we have | :25:34. | :25:42. | |
made into the infrastructure, new hospitals, a new sewerage system. | :25:42. | :25:47. | |
John, how do you think all of this with the VAT agreement has | :25:47. | :25:53. | |
effective relationships with UK and how can the island go for it? | :25:53. | :25:59. | |
danger it is, I feel, that the case is a Sussex certain to them. Do you | :25:59. | :26:03. | |
think the Isle of Man has been hit unfairly? Yes, I think we should | :26:03. | :26:10. | |
stand by our ground. We'll have to stop it there - thank you very much. | :26:10. | :26:14. | |
And you can get a full list of all the candidates by going to our | :26:14. | :26:16. | |
website - that's bbc.co.uk/isleofman - and clicking | :26:16. | :26:20. | |
through the links. Now let's go to Arif - who's at Tynwald Hill in St | :26:20. | :26:23. | |
John's. This, of course, is the site of the | :26:23. | :26:27. | |
old Norse Parliament and on July 5th, the site of Tynwald Day, the | :26:27. | :26:32. | |
big national day for the Isle of Man. One of the annual rituals is | :26:32. | :26:37. | |
the laying down of the petitions of redress. Members of the general | :26:37. | :26:40. | |
public can walk up this path and lay down a petition asking their | :26:40. | :26:44. | |
Government to right a wrong. Gill Dummigan has been to meet some of | :26:44. | :26:49. | |
those who've done it - with varying degrees of success. If you've got | :26:49. | :26:53. | |
something to say, Tynwald Day's is your big chance to have it heard by | :26:53. | :26:56. | |
the law-makers. Marjorie McMullen and her neighbours put their | :26:57. | :27:00. | |
petition in in 2009, asking for more rights for freehold home | :27:00. | :27:07. | |
owners. We had explored every other avenue to sort out the dispute that | :27:07. | :27:14. | |
we had. This was a last resort. year before, Rob Farrer's petition | :27:14. | :27:19. | |
was accompanied by demonstrators. Rob was forced to retire from his | :27:19. | :27:25. | |
job as a painter and decorator because of Parkinson's Disease. He | :27:25. | :27:32. | |
wants the benefits system improving for the long term sick. People who | :27:32. | :27:36. | |
were chronically ill with no chance of working should be on a higher | :27:36. | :27:42. | |
benefit. The process is that they march up ceremonially and hand it | :27:42. | :27:47. | |
to me and I handed to the Governor he formally handed over to the | :27:47. | :27:52. | |
standing orders committee and they formally refer it. To be successful | :27:52. | :27:57. | |
your petition has to be taken up by a Member of the House of Keys, and | :27:57. | :28:00. | |
discussed in committee. And then it might pass. But the odds are not | :28:00. | :28:06. | |
great. This is the list of petitions submitted since 2006. The | :28:06. | :28:09. | |
vast majority of them got absolutely nowhere - including | :28:09. | :28:19. | |
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Rob's. However, he's still a fan of the system. I think it is such a | :28:20. | :28:26. | |
unique and wonderful opportunities to present a problem in society, | :28:26. | :28:30. | |
which you cannot do any other way. Marjorie and her friends were more | :28:30. | :28:35. | |
successful. Theirs might even lead to a change in the law Direct | :28:35. | :28:42. | |
democracy in action there. We are quite proud of the fact we have | :28:42. | :28:49. |