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There is a new group for Conservative MPs in marginal | :00:51. | :00:57. | |
constituencies, but will the 40 clubs succeed in improving economy, | :00:57. | :01:02. | |
health and transport? And the row over Thames estuary | :01:02. | :01:12. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 1776 seconds | :01:12. | :30:48. | |
Welcome to the Politics Show. Coming up: Health, the economy and | :30:48. | :30:53. | |
transport, the key areas to improve. According to new and -- and you | :30:53. | :30:57. | |
Conservative group that includes Amber Rudd. But can the Forty Club | :30:57. | :31:01. | |
are really make a different? It was quicker to get to London on | :31:01. | :31:05. | |
a steam train and it is these days. That is a shocking indictment to | :31:05. | :31:08. | |
the way the transport infrastructure has been left to | :31:08. | :31:12. | |
fester for Ulster of ready for take-off for just a flight of | :31:12. | :31:14. | |
fancy? Boris Johnson and many others say | :31:14. | :31:22. | |
that we need a new airport in the Thames estuary. | :31:22. | :31:26. | |
Older people in larger homes should downsize, to give young families | :31:26. | :31:30. | |
somewhere better to live. We will discuss whether this idea would | :31:30. | :31:34. | |
help to solve the south-east's her sing shortage. | :31:34. | :31:38. | |
There is a new club in the Conservative Party, but not one | :31:38. | :31:43. | |
people would clamour to join, called the Forty Group, made up of | :31:43. | :31:49. | |
40 MPs in the marginal constituency, who narrowly won their seats in the | :31:49. | :31:56. | |
last election. There are now going to try the -- to raise the issues | :31:56. | :32:00. | |
that are most important to their constituents. | :32:00. | :32:05. | |
I am going to speak to Amber Rudd shortly, but first we have been to | :32:05. | :32:15. | |
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Amber Rudd's constituency to find The club that no one wants to be in. | :32:16. | :32:20. | |
That is the way a new group called the Forty Group describe themselves. | :32:20. | :32:24. | |
It is made up of the 40 Conservative MPs who won their | :32:24. | :32:30. | |
seats with the narrowest of min job -- majorities. A high proportion of | :32:30. | :32:33. | |
their constituencies include coastal towns, and there is more | :32:33. | :32:38. | |
deprivation and higher unemployment in many safer Tory seats. Hastings | :32:38. | :32:43. | |
is one of these, and it is in Key Amber Rudd who is one of the | :32:43. | :32:48. | |
founding members. It identified the top three issues to their | :32:48. | :32:50. | |
constituents as transport, health and the economy, and it aims to | :32:50. | :32:56. | |
raise their profile and government. On transport, local commuters | :32:56. | :33:00. | |
suffered increased train fares, and it is widely accepted that there is | :33:00. | :33:03. | |
poor transport infrastructure in the end area. | :33:03. | :33:08. | |
Absolute rubbish. If there was a better train service people mate | :33:08. | :33:13. | |
used it more. And if it wasn't so expense of. If we had a faster rail | :33:13. | :33:18. | |
link, it would help develop the area. For the last 20 years we have | :33:18. | :33:23. | |
been promised the same thing, again and again. We get promised to ring | :33:23. | :33:27. | |
road, and better transport, but it never happens. And Amber Rudd has | :33:27. | :33:32. | |
promised better trains. Inadequate transport links in specially to | :33:32. | :33:39. | |
London, are not aiding economic recovery. It was quicker to get to | :33:39. | :33:43. | |
London on a steam train than it is these days. That is a shocking | :33:43. | :33:46. | |
indictment to the way the transport infrastructure of this area has | :33:46. | :33:50. | |
been left to fester. It is not acceptable, and we will not be able | :33:51. | :33:54. | |
to implement as much of a success of the regeneration efforts going | :33:54. | :33:59. | |
on here as we want to, if we do not get an improvement on it. I can see | :33:59. | :34:03. | |
no better avenue for infrastructure spending in the most deprived area | :34:03. | :34:09. | |
of the south-east, and improving the road and rail links to. | :34:09. | :34:14. | |
The second issue is health, the hot topic in the Hastings area. As part | :34:14. | :34:24. | |
of the government spending reductions, 130 cuts are planned in | :34:24. | :34:29. | |
the hospitals, which will mean closing wards and sharing maternity | :34:29. | :34:39. | |
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services to others. Her Amber Rudd has said her number | :34:40. | :34:44. | |
one priority was the NHS, but that is difficult to see. At the moment | :34:44. | :34:48. | |
she says the cuts are necessary, but we are seeing nurses, doctors | :34:48. | :34:53. | |
out of jobs, and people in Hastings and Rye saying that we do not want | :34:53. | :34:57. | |
these cuts. It does not seem that she is listening. We have three | :34:58. | :35:02. | |
wards closing, but she voted for a �2 billion organisation of the NHS, | :35:02. | :35:06. | |
which is all going on bureaucracy, not on frontline health care. It | :35:06. | :35:11. | |
seems difficult to justify that. She wants to campaign for maternity | :35:11. | :35:14. | |
services to stay in Hastings, but she says nothing about three | :35:14. | :35:18. | |
elderly care wards being closed and the community. | :35:18. | :35:24. | |
Last, the group has identified the economy as a priority. Hastings is | :35:24. | :35:28. | |
the most deprived area of the south-east. Nearly 10% of the | :35:28. | :35:32. | |
working population in Hastings as unemployed, which is nearly double | :35:32. | :35:37. | |
the south-east average of 5.8%. And the average earnings of a Hastings | :35:37. | :35:44. | |
resident is �407 a week. That is compared to 540p across the region. | :35:44. | :35:47. | |
We are concerned that far from the Government's spending more than | :35:47. | :35:52. | |
Hastings, it is cutting back. The the investment has come to a stop, | :35:52. | :36:02. | |
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and the council is receiving... We're going to take a 47% reduction | :36:05. | :36:09. | |
in government support, and that means our ability to do things, to | :36:09. | :36:15. | |
get people work ready, to develop skills, to offer opportunities to | :36:15. | :36:18. | |
employers, all that has been reduced substantially. The | :36:18. | :36:22. | |
Government wanted to do something about jobs and the economy and the | :36:22. | :36:25. | |
ability of the local authority to intervene, and do something about | :36:25. | :36:28. | |
the reductions, because they are disproportionately hard on those | :36:28. | :36:33. | |
areas. The Forty Group have the most | :36:33. | :36:36. | |
gullible seats for the whole of the Conservative Party, and will fight | :36:36. | :36:39. | |
to keep their jobs at the next election. But if Hastings is | :36:39. | :36:44. | |
anything to go by, fulfilling their aims is not going to be easy. The | :36:44. | :36:48. | |
question is, if Amber Rudd is arguing for policy changes in areas | :36:48. | :36:53. | |
of concern, will she not be at odds to her leadership? And if not, why | :36:53. | :37:03. | |
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bother with the grip? Let us talk to Amber Rudd. Anyone | :37:04. | :37:09. | |
who knows Hastings knows it is an Achilles heel for the town. One of | :37:09. | :37:13. | |
your constituents said that the Conservative lady, that is you, | :37:13. | :37:16. | |
promised better transport links, which has never going to happen. | :37:16. | :37:22. | |
Can you prove him wrong? Can you deliver a better link road, better | :37:22. | :37:26. | |
rail fares? That is what the constituents need. That is exactly | :37:26. | :37:31. | |
what they need. I can understand why some of them are cynical, when | :37:31. | :37:36. | |
I went to do my maiden speech in the House of Commons last year, I | :37:36. | :37:40. | |
found that of the new MP for Hastings in 50 years had made this | :37:40. | :37:44. | |
claim that they would give transport links. We had a meeting | :37:44. | :37:51. | |
in Parliament this week to press for making a dual carriageway. We | :37:51. | :37:55. | |
have put in another application for the link road. We have a good | :37:55. | :37:59. | |
contribution from East Sussex County Council, and I am not going | :37:59. | :38:03. | |
to give upon this. I will be as persistent as I can be, to make | :38:03. | :38:07. | |
sure I can get the benefits for the residents of Hastings and Rye. | :38:07. | :38:11. | |
you're going to be persistent, should you not be standing up to | :38:11. | :38:13. | |
the government, to say that the fast rail link from London to | :38:13. | :38:17. | |
Birmingham, which will cost �32 billion, that money could be better | :38:17. | :38:22. | |
spent in my constituency? I am looking for new money, I do not see | :38:22. | :38:26. | |
it as competitive in that way. I recognise what they're trying to do, | :38:26. | :38:30. | |
build infrastructure in the country over all, but I will fight for | :38:30. | :38:34. | |
Hastings and Rye. I think it is important to improve the rail links. | :38:34. | :38:37. | |
The biggest problem we have is the franchise we have at the moment | :38:37. | :38:42. | |
with South Eastern, does not inspire -- expire until 2014, which | :38:42. | :38:46. | |
is when we can get a new franchise and try to get real investment, | :38:46. | :38:51. | |
which is one of the commentator said, we have not had for years. I | :38:51. | :38:55. | |
will try to change that when we do it the new franchise. One of the | :38:55. | :39:02. | |
other issues his health. You are on the records seeing changes have to | :39:02. | :39:06. | |
be made, that cuts are necessary, you are campaigning to save your | :39:06. | :39:11. | |
local hospital's maternity unit. You see the need for savings but | :39:11. | :39:15. | |
not if they make you unpopular in your constituents. I am proud that | :39:15. | :39:19. | |
the Conservative Party is the only one who pledged to raise spending | :39:19. | :39:24. | |
on the NHS every year. But because we will increase spending, does not | :39:24. | :39:28. | |
mean you do not modernise. There have to be changes. The changes at | :39:28. | :39:33. | |
the Conquest Hospital are to do with efficiencies. Let me explain | :39:33. | :39:37. | |
what that means. The elderly people coming into this hospital, they are | :39:37. | :39:40. | |
being assessed much earlier. There has been an increase in the number | :39:40. | :39:45. | |
of beds available to them, so they can go home more quickly. This is | :39:45. | :39:48. | |
not about cost-saving, this is about efficiencies within the | :39:48. | :39:53. | |
hospital to help the patients. They are seen earlier by a senior doctor. | :39:53. | :39:56. | |
Most people do not want to stay in hospital, but they would welcome | :39:56. | :40:06. | |
these changes. The economy. A massive number of people in | :40:06. | :40:09. | |
Hastings and the public sector. Do you not have to oppose the severity | :40:09. | :40:13. | |
of public spending cuts to be seen to beast -- seemed to be taking a | :40:13. | :40:16. | |
stand for your constituent? Hastings has always had these | :40:17. | :40:21. | |
problems. Employment in Hastings has stayed flat over the past year, | :40:21. | :40:24. | |
when unemployment has risen and the rest of the country. That means | :40:24. | :40:28. | |
there are positive moves in Hastings, where public sector cuts | :40:28. | :40:32. | |
are taking place and being picked up. I totally disagree with the | :40:32. | :40:37. | |
comment by the Labour councillor, that this Government is not | :40:37. | :40:41. | |
investing in Hastings. It is investing in Hastings. We have two | :40:41. | :40:46. | |
new schools coming, �1.5 million of the Pupil Premium for the most | :40:46. | :40:50. | |
deprived children. At a charity this morning, there are 80 new | :40:50. | :40:54. | |
apprentices starting. I believe Hastings will benefit from all this. | :40:54. | :40:57. | |
You said you wanted to be persistent and pushy. What do you | :40:57. | :41:01. | |
see the real point of the Forty Group being? Do you not have to | :41:01. | :41:04. | |
press the government to change policy to make its injure | :41:05. | :41:08. | |
constituents, otherwise what is the point of the Forty Group? That is a | :41:08. | :41:14. | |
good point. But one person being persistent can be irritating, but | :41:14. | :41:19. | |
when there is a group of you, you are likely to get more attention. A | :41:19. | :41:24. | |
number of us were in seaside towns, of the 40, to make sure that -- and | :41:24. | :41:28. | |
we fought to make sure there was some fund for seaside towns. Four | :41:28. | :41:32. | |
months ago, the coastal communities fund was announced, starting next | :41:32. | :41:36. | |
year, with �100 million in it, which we will hopefully see some | :41:37. | :41:43. | |
benefit from. To be clear about this, you are quite prepared to be | :41:43. | :41:48. | |
a thorn in David Cameron's stayed? I am going to make sure to make | :41:49. | :41:58. | |
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sure his policies work to put my a residents first. | :42:00. | :42:04. | |
A debate is being hosted on proposals to build a new airport in | :42:04. | :42:08. | |
the Thames Estuary. It is supported by the Mayor of London, Boris | :42:08. | :42:11. | |
Johnson. Pretty much everyone agrees the airports are becoming | :42:11. | :42:15. | |
overstretched, but is a new harbour the right answer? Supporters claim | :42:15. | :42:19. | |
it would give an economic boost to the south-east creating thousands | :42:19. | :42:23. | |
of new jobs, avoiding the loss of business to rival European will at | :42:23. | :42:29. | |
airports, like Frankfurt, Paris and Amsterdam. Opponents say that the | :42:29. | :42:31. | |
cost and environmentally and Patsy it should never go it off the | :42:31. | :42:33. | |
ground. One opponent is Mark Reckless, who | :42:33. | :42:40. | |
is here with me. I am also joined with the deputy chairman of this | :42:40. | :42:44. | |
London Transport. They have just been talking about | :42:44. | :42:48. | |
the merits of infrastructure projects. Clearly the Conservatives | :42:48. | :42:52. | |
needs -- the need to betray themselves as the party for growth, | :42:52. | :42:59. | |
so why erect an opportunity for the Saudis? Because we have not got 10 | :42:59. | :43:09. | |
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or 20 or so than �2 billion to spend on an airport. We have a hub | :43:09. | :43:13. | |
airport, and it is Paris in the sky to suggest we will close Heathrow | :43:13. | :43:19. | |
off the 60 years of investment and spent tens of billions of pounds | :43:19. | :43:23. | |
near the Thames estuary. You are arguing for the status quo? Gaudier | :43:23. | :43:33. | |
had some other idea on -- or do you have another idea up your sleeve? | :43:33. | :43:37. | |
In this Parliament, we do not believe there is any need for new | :43:37. | :43:40. | |
runways in the south-east. In 2019, the planning agreement at Gatwick, | :43:40. | :43:45. | |
that prevents a separate runway there, will run out. Gatwick is | :43:45. | :43:51. | |
your target? We do not need another runway. The Government will respect | :43:51. | :43:56. | |
that agreement at Gatwick, of which lasts until 2019. Any promises be | :43:56. | :44:00. | |
on that? It prevents a second runway until then, and the | :44:00. | :44:04. | |
government have said we do not need a new one in the south-east in this | :44:04. | :44:08. | |
Parliament, let alone a massive new airport involving closing Heathrow. | :44:08. | :44:14. | |
It makes no sense and they wish the Mayor of London would confine his | :44:14. | :44:18. | |
activities to London. Daniel, you need to sell this to the people of | :44:18. | :44:23. | |
Kent and Essex. There is already a high level of opposition. Why are | :44:23. | :44:29. | |
so many senior politicians wrong? Actually I think Mark Reckless has | :44:29. | :44:35. | |
a very good point. But the fact is the reports are full. As a result | :44:35. | :44:40. | |
of that, people are not being priced out -- people are being | :44:40. | :44:44. | |
priced out of the holidays, they're taking the airport business to | :44:44. | :44:48. | |
Amsterdam and Paris, and with them are going jobs and opportunities | :44:48. | :44:56. | |
that could be in this country. cannot wait will 2019? Already this | :44:56. | :45:01. | |
is happening. We are losing jobs and opportunities, and investment | :45:01. | :45:04. | |
to other countries. We need to act quickly, we need to take some | :45:04. | :45:09. | |
measures to deal with it. Boris Johnson's view is that we have to | :45:09. | :45:15. | |
have a new hub airport altogether. If you live in Kent and you go to a | :45:15. | :45:18. | |
holiday -- on holiday around the world, they have well-functioning | :45:18. | :45:23. | |
airports. Our reporter is extremely constrained, giving a poor | :45:23. | :45:33. | |
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passenger experience and it is already full. -- hour airport. | :45:34. | :45:38. | |
People ask themselves why can we not have any accord similar to | :45:38. | :45:43. | |
foreign countries? And they wonder where the opportunities are for | :45:43. | :45:47. | |
younger people. A proper report would actually allow jobs and that | :45:47. | :45:57. | |
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investment to flow. -- a proper airport. Where should the new | :46:02. | :46:10. | |
airport go? Boris Johnson believes it should be a way from properties. | :46:10. | :46:14. | |
Why can't we have a better airport? Have you heard anyone asking us | :46:14. | :46:22. | |
that? No. In my constituency, most people are opposed to this proposal. | :46:22. | :46:29. | |
On what grounds? Because they have moved to a semi- rural lady. The | :46:29. | :46:33. | |
people who live under the Heathrow or Gatwick flightpath, they chose | :46:34. | :46:41. | |
to move to that area knowing that they would have an advantage to any | :46:41. | :46:46. | |
airport close by. But they also knew there may be noise disturbance. | :46:46. | :46:49. | |
For Boris Johnson to propose putting this outside London, for | :46:49. | :46:56. | |
which he has no authority, will ruin the lives of many constituents. | :46:56. | :47:01. | |
I think that there needs to gets serious. It to be brilliant for | :47:01. | :47:06. | |
economic growth. You need to be looking for big infrastructure | :47:06. | :47:09. | |
projects and the south-east that could turn the fortunes around. | :47:09. | :47:14. | |
do not think we have got the money for this. Tens of billions of | :47:14. | :47:16. | |
pounds for this. We have a huge deficit which the Government is | :47:17. | :47:22. | |
dealing with. A final thought. The councillors opposed, leading | :47:22. | :47:26. | |
airlines have opposed. Is it just a vanity project for Boris Johnson? | :47:27. | :47:32. | |
No, it is not at all. I think it is sad that Marks's we cannot afford | :47:32. | :47:37. | |
it, because actually you would not need to any government money to | :47:37. | :47:41. | |
going to this. But it would bring huge transport benefits, real | :47:41. | :47:44. | |
benefits and road benefits to the area where it was billed, whenever | :47:44. | :47:52. | |
that might be, and it would bring jobs and prosperity and opportunity. | :47:52. | :47:58. | |
I apologise for interrupting. Thank you very much for being with us. | :47:58. | :48:01. | |
There are 25 million unoccupied bedrooms in the UK, yet there is a | :48:01. | :48:05. | |
massive housing shortage, nowhere more so than in the south-east. | :48:05. | :48:08. | |
Despite concerns from environment of campaigners that too many new | :48:08. | :48:13. | |
homes are being built in the countryside, there are nearly | :48:13. | :48:17. | |
63,000 families on waiting lists for housing. Now there are calls | :48:17. | :48:22. | |
for one think-tank for elderly people living in big houses to | :48:22. | :48:27. | |
downsize, to give people somewhere to live. Is that a long-term | :48:27. | :48:33. | |
solution? With us is Professor Tim Locke -- Professor Tim Luckhurst. | :48:33. | :48:37. | |
Do you think it is selfish for older people to stay in houses that | :48:37. | :48:43. | |
are too big for them? It has certainly got people talking. It is | :48:43. | :48:45. | |
one of the most controversial housing proposals we have seen, and | :48:45. | :48:50. | |
I think it is ludicrous. How would the young people be able to afford | :48:50. | :48:57. | |
these big houses? They would not be able to buy them. It has got people | :48:57. | :49:02. | |
talking. Are there any other bright ideas out there? We need to move on | :49:02. | :49:06. | |
from this limited political debate. On one hand we have got housing | :49:06. | :49:11. | |
shortages, but we also have got to protect the countryside. It has | :49:11. | :49:15. | |
become a real political bind. This week alone, we have seen that | :49:15. | :49:18. | |
report should have mentioned, we have seen Brighton council | :49:18. | :49:22. | |
struggling to deal with the scandal of houses that have been empty | :49:22. | :49:27. | |
since 1979, in some cases. What we have got is a consensus there is a | :49:27. | :49:30. | |
housing crisis, but political parties that are struggling to do | :49:30. | :49:35. | |
anything about it. Labour say that they are committed to a decent | :49:35. | :49:38. | |
house for every person, but neither party seems to have moved us | :49:38. | :49:48. | |
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forward. It is the political cycle. James -- changing housing takes at | :49:49. | :49:55. | |
least five years. And that means the next general election. It has | :49:55. | :50:03. | |
been a difficult thing to change. The Conservatives and Labour have | :50:03. | :50:07. | |
both increased the number of houses when they have been in power a long | :50:07. | :50:11. | |
time, but both parties are only looking for short-term political | :50:11. | :50:15. | |
gain at the moment. That is interesting. We have been talking | :50:15. | :50:19. | |
this morning about the consequences and impact of the marginal | :50:19. | :50:24. |