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Hello and Welcome to the Record Review. The PM is for turning. This

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week it's been Ken Clarke's sentencing policy. David Cameron

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says he's listening to the people. But Labour doesn't quite see it

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like that. After another week of chaos from this coalition, is it

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any wonder that the Archbishop of Canterbury is now on his knees in

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despair? One man has been talking quietly to all the top people in

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the Coalition and he tells us it's working like a well-oiled machine.

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This coalition has proved remarkably stable, united and very

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effective in terms of quick, firm decisions. Also, two new MPs

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celebrate their first anniversary with some frank things to say about

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life at Westminster. And politics meets art - we reveal the paintings

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the politicians choose for their offices. But first, there was no

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shortage of items filling David Cameron's in-tray this week. First,

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the Prime Minister gave apparent concessions to the Liberal

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Democrats on changes to the NHS. Next, the liberal plans of the

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Justice Secretary, for a 50% cut in sentences for offenders who plead

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guilty early, was unceremoniously dropped by David Cameron. On

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Thursday, Labour totted up the U- turns and wondered what had

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happened to the Coalition's agenda for public service reform. Back in

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February the Prime Minister proclaimed we will soon publish a

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White Paper setting out our approach to public service reform

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that will signal the decisive end of the old-fashioned top-down model.

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Bold words, soon, decisive. What's happened? Nothing. First it was put

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off until May. Now, we hear, it's been delayed until July because of

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another coalition split. One Lib Dem official said, "Nick does not

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want there to be any sense that the public sector can't be a provider

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of good quality public services." We can all feel another pause

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coming on. Finally, Baroness Thatcher famously possessed no

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reverse gear. This Prime Minister has a car stuffed full of them and

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a reverse gear as well! It does make us wonder what exactly goes on

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inside Number Ten when the Prime Minister approves of all these

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policies only to reverse in the opposite direction scattering his

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Cabinet colleagues in the way. So after another week of chaos from

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this coalition, is it any wonder that the Archbishop of Canterbury

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is now on his knees in despair? the question of the Archbishop, I

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haven't seen the full text of what the Archbishop has said. I hope he

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has found time to balance any criticism of the coalition with

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commendation for some of the things we have done. The 0.7% of GMI

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commitment on overseas aid making sure the poorest people in the

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world don't bear the burden of solving our problems. I hope he

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also finds time to commend, to commend our action on the pupil

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premium, taking lower income people out of tax. The Archbishop said

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that the coalition was rushing things through which nobody voted

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for. You could turn the coin over and say in a Parliament where no

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one party has a majority there is much less likelihood of that

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happening. Hilary Benn poking some fun at the Government. Sir George

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Young fighting back after the Archbishop of Canterbury has said

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no-one voted for the Coalition. Well, no-one did vote directly for

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a Con-Lib Dem Coalition. But that's what we've got and could in fact

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have all the way to the Spring of 2015. But, regardless of its

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policies, has this two-party coalition, something pretty unusual

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in UK politics, actually been working effectively? A detailed

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study of the way the Coalition has been operating in the power

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corridors of Whitehall is being carried out by London University's

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Constitution Unit. The project's led by the constitutional expert,

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Professor Robert Hazell. When he came into the Record Review studio,

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he told me about the way his team had gone about its research. Well,

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this is a 12-month study. We began in January. Over the spring, we

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have interviewed 90 people, mainly in Whitehall, in Cabinet Office, in

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Number Ten... This is at all levels of seniority? These are all pretty

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senior people. In three case study departments in Whitehall, which are

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DEFRA and DEC and the Department of Communities and Local Government.

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And in Parliament, we have interviewed a lot of MPs on the

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Conservative and Lib Dem benches and also in the House of Lords we

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have interviewed a lot of Conservative and Lib Dem peers.

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have all got our own ideas about Coalition Government and academics

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have had theories about how our Coalition Government might work.

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What surprises would you say there have been in the year of Coalition

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Government that we weren't really expecting at all? I think the big

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surprise for the British people, who were pretty prejudiced against

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coalitions, and thought that they would be weak and indecisive, is

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that this coalition in its first year has proved remarkably stable,

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united and very effective in terms of quick, firm decisions, some of

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which admittedly they are now going wobbly on, but no-one can say this

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Government has been indecisive. large part of the strength of the

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coalition has been the two people at the top, Cameron and Clegg?

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Absolutely. That relationship is crucial and they do get on famously

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well together. They have very regular meetings every Monday

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morning and they also chat together on Sunday evening and sometimes

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they have an additional meeting during the week. Every one else at

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the top, especially at Number Ten and Cabinet Office, takes their

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tune from Cameron and Clegg and so around them they have top advisors

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who also get on very well together and have very, very regular

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informal dealings with each other, some of them several times a day.

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little bit of resentment from Conservative MPs that the Prime

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Minister, the leader of their party is doing so much talking to a

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Liberal Democrat? Of course. That is a natural outcome of a coalition,

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that the backbenchers feel excluded because their frontbench as it were

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has got into bed with someone else. In both parties it is important for

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the leadership also to keep closely in touch with the Parliamentary

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Party and with the party outside. Do you think that has led to more

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rebellions than would have been expected because of that point?

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This Parliament has been the most rebellious we have ever seen, in

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fact in the first nine months of this Parliament there have been

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more rebellions on the Government benches than in the first four

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years of Tony Blair's first Government. So there is an

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extraordinarily high degree of rebellion. One of the key findings

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that you have discovered is that the Lib Dem identity has been lost

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as a result of this coalition. What do you think the Liberal Democrats

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can do about that? I think it is very difficult for them. In the

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coalition agreement, they did really well and in an analysis that

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we did of the two manifestos against the coalition agreement

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shows the Lib Dems got more of their manifesto, 75%, into the

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coalition agreement compared with the Tories who only got 60% in. So

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in terms of the underlying policy for this Government, it is arguably

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more Lib Dem than Tory. But the public I think will never see how

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much influence the Lib Dems have because they are making lots of

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small wins across the whole of Whitehall most of which are

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invisible to the media and to the public. The Lib Dems, there is an

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inherent problem here. As the Lib Dems try to show their distinct

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identity, that must come at a slight cost to the stability of the

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coalition? It's a classic dilemma for coalitions that they have to

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demonstrate unity in Government, but enable both the parties also to

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demonstrate their distinctive identity to the public, especially

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as we look to the next election. It is much harder for the junior

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partner. Do you think the Lib Dems made a mistake by pressing on with

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the AV referendum and Lords reform? It was a mistake, particularly on

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the AV referendum. I have been warning if they held the referendum

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on the timetable which they did it was going to be lost. The main

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reason why they suffered that defeat was reckless haste. On Lords

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reform, they partly learnt the lesson and they are going very slow

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on that, in that it took a year for them to publish their proposals.

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They are now going to be considered by a Joint Committee and that may

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take another year. What did you notice about divisions between

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members of the Cabinet? The Cabinet, we haven't found many divisions

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across the coalition divide. Interestingly, several of our

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interviewees said to us the strongest disagreements in this

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Government have been between ministers of the same party.

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Examples given, and these aren't secret, are the big tussles there

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have been between Ken Clarke as Justice Secretary and Theresa May

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as Home Secretary over justice versus security and law-and-order

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kind of issues, or on the Lib Dem side between Chris Huhne, batting

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for climate change, and Vince Cable, batting for business. There's an

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obvious tension between these two. That reminds the Lib Dems are

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sprinkled across - I think they have 22 ministerial posts - across

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the departments. Do you think it would have been better if they had

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one or two departments that would have been exclusively Liberal

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Democrat? Would that have worked? That is a really good question.

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That is something we are going to explore much more in the next phase

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of our project. You are quite right, the Lib Dems did decide at the

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beginning of this Government to go for breadth rather than depth. And

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as a result of that breadth, it is really difficult for them to

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demonstrate significant impact on specific areas of policy so that if

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there is a reshuffle, and if I were offering advice to Nick Clegg, I

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think I would say if you can, regroup your ministers in much more

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concentrated areas so that you can show to the public where the Lib

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Dems are making a difference. Another finding that you have made

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is that the Deputy Prime Minister's office is under strength. What can

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be done to make amends there? largely it has been strengthened in

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terms of numbers, but Nick Clegg's team will never be as senior or

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experienced as the people in Number Ten and that's their underlying

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difficulty so it is never going to have the same clout as Number Ten

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working for the Prime Minister. And I think all that Nick Clegg can do

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is look for support from some of the people in Number Ten, which he

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does get, but also carve out for himself very clear strategic

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priorities which the public can know and understand. Do you think

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the Liberal Democrats have enough time? 2015, the next general

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election, have they got enough time to turn things around because

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electorally they have just had a bit of a mauling in the recent

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local elections? It's always difficult for the junior partner

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and the junior partner in a coalition suffers electorally

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because they can't distinguish themselves sufficiently to the

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electorate. But they have got four years. If they do begin to carve

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out some very clear strategic priorities so that they can go to

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the electorate in 2015 and say, "Look, this is the difference that

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we have made, in this area, this area and this." At the moment, if

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you look at the Lib Dem website and you see the policy documents where

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they analyse the difference they have made, when I last looked they

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had 140 different items. They are never going to convince the

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electorate if they have that many policy items. On the general

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political landscape, because there's two parties in Government

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and one party in opposition, does that change the dynamics on every

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issue and how the public perceives it because you have one main party,

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namely Labour, that is in opposition each time, do you think

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that has an effect on how the public perceive each issue?

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would be very interesting to know how many members of the public know

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that the Lib Dems are in Government. What they see is a Government led

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by David Cameron. So, I suspect for a lot of the public we have a Tory

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Government. That's another difficulty for the Lib Dems in

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convincing the public that they are having an impact and to some extent,

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sometimes they have to come out almost in opposition to the

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Government of which they are members. Finally, history is not on

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the Liberals side, when they have taken part in peacetime coalitions,

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it has been a complete disaster for them at the next election. That

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must be weighing heavily on the minds of Nick Clegg and his senior

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Lib Dem colleagues? Indeed. The Liberals, as they were, have been

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in coalition three times in the last century or so. And on each

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occasion it's led to a split in the Liberal Party. The key lesson for

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Nick Clegg, what he's got to watch out for, is that when the party

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becomes uncomfortable about being in coalition, the rot as it were

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starts from the tail not from the head. So it's the members of the

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party or the Parliamentary Party who become really unhappy and begin

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to split away and he needs to keep his party and his parliamentary

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colleagues strongly on board. Professor Hazell. It's one year on

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for the class of 2010, and the Hansard Society has just published

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a survey of the attitudes of the new Commons intake. MPs complain of

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being overworked and unimpressed with some of Parliaments'

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procedures. Many have taken a big pay cut. Our reporter Emma Murray

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asked the Conservative MP Simon Hart and the Commons' first Green

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MP, Caroline Lucas, if they'd known what they were letting themselves

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I did know it was a pretty weird and wonderful place. It has lived

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up to that assessment. What shocked me most is the amount of time that

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MPs have to waste, whether it is sitting in the chamber for hours on

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hours on the offchance they might get the speaker's eye or and the

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queuing up in order to vote much we calculated over the lifetime of a

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four-year Parliament MPs could be wasting 250 hours waiting to go

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through the aye lobby or the no lobby. That inefficiency has been

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shocking. I think most of my voters expect me to be in the chamber

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listening to debate. Standing around talking to colleagues while

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you are waiting to vote, which is the last thing we do often in the

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day's work, isn't a bad use of time. I'm an evolutionist, not a

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revolutionist. Many new MPs complained about being overworked.

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Can you be effective when you are working a 74-hour week? We went

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into it with our eyes open. It's tough. I'm not whingeing about it.

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It's an exhilarating place to work. Yes, it's demanding. Yes, it's long

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hours. It's not particularly socialable from a family point of

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view. We'd like to think it's valuable work. Valuable work for

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the people we represent. If we didn't like the hours which we were

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going to work we shouldn't have applied for the job in the first

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place Can you be effective? I too take nart debates and sit and

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listen to debates. To wait six hours not know if anything you will

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get into a debate day after day is not, I would contend a good use of

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time when you have constituents contact you on issues. I think the

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issue here is how we organise our time. The way Westminster does it

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is not very efficient. You wouldn't look at any other institution in

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this country and think thiss with a good way of acting. The amount of

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hours we work are many. That is not a surprise. I do think we should be

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looking at other ways ever operating. For example, I attracted

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much mirth when I suggested the idea of job sharing for MPs. I'm

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serious about. It more women could get involved. Younger people could

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get involved we could make this job a meaningful and febgive job rather

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than it being the boys late at night. It's an old boys club. That

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needs to change. I don't think I'm that old. I don't see it as a club.

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I think what we do, it's prot duct. Are we providing value-for-money?

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Are we doing what they want us to do? Sometimes, when we have

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conversations like this it looks pretty self-indull gent. We spend

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years trying to get elected, we get elected and then we complain about

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how the system doesn't work. It does work quite well. There are

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quite a lot of checks and balances in there which make sure in the end,

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no matter how frustrating it is, it stops us making stupid decisions.

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Well, mainly stops us taking stupid decisions. We have to be cautious

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about saying, it's all rubbish, let's get rid of it because we

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kfplt I'm not saying it's all rubbish or get rid of. It I say

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look at reforms that I proposed. We have had debates in Westminster

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Hall we will have a debate on the floor of the House. There is

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concern about how we make Parliament more efficient and more

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effective. I hope that translates into effective reforms very soon.

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There is going to change? I'm sure it can change if the political will

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is there. I might have to work on him first.

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The views there of two spring chickens in the Westminster

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farmyard. Now, a look at some of the other

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stories around Parliament in the last seven days.

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The Home Secretary, Theresa May, has given details of the new

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National Crime Agency, which will replace the Serious Organised Crime

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Agency, set up only five years ago. It'll cover drugs and gun crime,

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and will also have responsibility to tackle the exploitation of

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children on the internet. National Crime Agency will be a

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crime fighting organisation. It will tackle organised crime, defend

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our borders, fight fraud and sieb cyber crime and protect children

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and young people. The Government is pushing ahead with American-style

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plans for -- that nobody wants much they are dogged by chaos and

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confusion. There is no sign the Home Secretary has got a grip.

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A financial crisis at the care provider Southern Cross prompts

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some peers to attack the involvement of private companies in

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the care sector. Given the latest revelation that is Southern Cross

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traded the care of older people for short-term profit. Given the

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revolution that the quality care commission failed to come to the

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help of suffering people in a home in Bristol, can I urge him to take

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the most urgent steps, as soon as possible, to relieve the suffering

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of people old and frail and dependant, who are currently

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suffering much neglect? problems besetting Southern Cross

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are an object lesson in the dangers of market failure attending the

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privatisation of public services. The newest Royal of all, but could

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the phone messages of Kate Middleton, before she became the

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Duchess of Cambridge, have been hacked into?

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A Labour MP alerts the Prime Minister. The Metropolitan Police

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are in pocession of paperwork that details the dealings of Jonathan

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reest. It strongly suggests that on behalf of News International he was

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illegally targeting members of the Royal Family, senior Pol Pot

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titions and high level terrorist informers. In the case of phone

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haging, which is illegal and wrong, there have been prosecutions, there

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have been imprisonments. If that is where the evidence takes them, that

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is what will happen in the future. A home grown crisis of a rather

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green nature. Can we convince everyone that the

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British cucumber is safe to eat, following the E-coli outbreak in

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Germany? Despite British produce being perfectly safe many farmers

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are seeing a fall in sales of 30% to 50%. Some are on their way to

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bankruptcy. Account Government redouble their efforts to fair

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access tolts 150 million euros of EU compensation and for Russia to

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lift its unfair ban on UK cucumbers. I share his concern about UK

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cucumber producers. All the evidence is that it's perfectly

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safe to eat them. Sir George Young rallying to the

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defence of the British cucumber. Food for thought.

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From Whitehall to the Whitechapel Art Gallery.

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Did you know the government owns a massive art collection, worth many

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millions? The art is used to adorn the

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offices of Ministers and Mandarins. Yet the public, which owns the

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collection, has never seen it. Until now.

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Five exhibitions over the coming years are going to be put on around

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the country. Emma Murray has been down to the

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first exhibition in East London to take a look at what we've been

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buying all these years. From 16th century monarch arks to 21st

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century politicians. Where the political elite are to be found so

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too is art. Now, for the first time, in its 113th year history, a small

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slice of the government art collection is open to the public.

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The exhibit features work choosen by Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg

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and Culture Minister. Labour's Lord Mandelson and Lord Boateng have

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also made selections from the government's pieces. I asked Daniel

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Herman where the connection lies between art and politics? I think

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politics and art has long been a connection. We can't think of

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politics without art. Ever since the Romans who had their heads of

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state embossed on coins, do we have picture politics. Of course, there

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is a strong connection between what you put up in your room. What you

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put up in an official building and how you carry yourself and how you

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represent yourself. It's about putting your best foot forward.

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This particular painting is very popular because it is by one of the

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best British artists of the post- war generation. It shows a scene of

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post-war austerity. A group scene of lots of people aseming at the

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Lancashire Fair, the painting was painted in 1946. It was acquired by

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the government art collection for �120. Even though it's quite a

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substantial sum of money at the time has been a tremendous

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investment. These paintings are ambassadors for Britain. This is is

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the first of five displace and is on at the Whitechapel Art Gallery.

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It will finish in the Ulster Museum in Belfast.

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You're watching the Record Review, after a week when the coalition

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government found itself under double attack from

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and the Archbishop of Canterbury., cooling and Labour.

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The Duke of Edinburgh is 90, and MPs and peers have been paying

:24:06.:24:09.

tribute. Prince Phillip is the longest-

:24:09.:24:13.

serving Royal consort in British history.

:24:13.:24:16.

He's spent more than six decades talking to people, all kinds of

:24:16.:24:18.

people, on, literally, thousands of official Royal visits, sometimes in

:24:18.:24:22.

his own right, but often alongside the Queen.

:24:22.:24:25.

The Duke has made several hundred speeches and is, perhaps, best

:24:25.:24:27.

known for his quirky, unpredictable comments, some of which might be

:24:28.:24:32.

called 'politically incorrect'. His world-renowned Duke of

:24:32.:24:34.

Edinburgh's Award Scheme has helped children achieve skills and self-

:24:34.:24:44.
:24:44.:24:46.

reliance. The Prime Minister described the Prince's naval record

:24:46.:24:51.

and his great support for environment charities. He has a

:24:51.:24:55.

down-to-earth no nonsense approach that the British people, I believe,

:24:55.:24:59.

find.endearing. Of course, many of us who give public speeches would

:24:59.:25:03.

be honoured to have a book published of our most famous

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sayings. There have been several published of his. My own favourite

:25:07.:25:11.

was when, after a long flight, the eager to please official asked him,

:25:11.:25:16.

"how was your flight?" He replied, "have you been on a plane, you know

:25:16.:25:21.

how it goes up in the air and comes back down again, well, it was just

:25:21.:25:27.

like that". I would like to go on for longer I'm reminded about his

:25:27.:25:35.

remark about certificate mons who overrun. The Duke put it, "the mind

:25:35.:25:43.

cannot absorb what the backside cannot endure". With that in mind

:25:43.:25:49.

let me give the final say to the person who knows him best of all

:25:49.:25:53.

Her Majesty the Queen. She said in a speeched he had been, "her

:25:53.:25:58.

strength and stay all these years" that she and his whole family and

:25:58.:26:02.

this and many other countries owe him a debt greater than he would

:26:02.:26:08.

ever claim or we shall ever know. The Duke has been a Prince amongst

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consort is a King amongst characters. His unique turn of

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phrase has become a-loved feature of modern British life. There are

:26:18.:26:24.

two repeatable examples that I want to share with the House today. To

:26:24.:26:30.

the matron of a hospital he visited in the Caribbean he commented, "you

:26:30.:26:36.

have mosquitos, I have the press". I think that's a sentiment which

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many of us should share at various times in politics. Legend also has

:26:40.:26:46.

it that following the Coronation in 1953 he turned to Her Majesty and

:26:46.:26:53.

say said, "where did you tkpwhaet hat?" We should, in this House, and

:26:53.:27:01.

we do, feel gratitude, respect and pride for Prince Philip's service

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to his country and to recall that he is indeed part of that

:27:05.:27:10.

remarkable generation that served with distinction during the war,

:27:10.:27:16.

who did their duty and just got on with it then with the rebuilding of

:27:16.:27:22.

Britain afterwards. He certainly is, Mr Speaker, a formidable man and

:27:22.:27:32.
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refreshingly does not suffer fools gladly. As I know to my cost.

:27:37.:27:40.

2001 he was invited, as I think was the Prime Minister and others

:27:40.:27:45.

elected, it was our tenth anniversary yesterday, we were

:27:45.:27:49.

invited to Buckingham Palace and the Duke of Edinburgh came up to

:27:49.:27:54.

Panjit and said, "what did you do before you got this job?" He said,

:27:54.:27:59.

"I worked in a trade union". The Duke of Edinburgh immediately

:27:59.:28:09.
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replied, "bugger all then". To which, he thought he could

:28:09.:28:16.

retaliate with force said, "what did you do before you got this job"

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to which he replied, "fought in the Second World War". There are

:28:20.:28:26.

occasions when I think a little bit of humility from this House towards

:28:26.:28:32.

his Royal highness is appropriate. In a BBC documentary for his 90th

:28:32.:28:39.

birthday I understand the Duke says of his role, "it's all been trial

:28:39.:28:43.

and ror," as his son says in the programme, "that view is typical of

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him, he is modest about himself". While the Duke of Edinburgh may

:28:47.:28:52.

indeed be modest his achievements are not. For many people, all over

:28:52.:28:56.

the world, the words Duke of Edinburgh are linked with the award

:28:56.:29:02.

scheme which carries his name. While confounding all the

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stereotypical views we hold of someone facing his tenth decade,

:29:06.:29:12.

the Duke retained his bounce and interest in life. His robust sense

:29:12.:29:16.

of humour added a welcome informality to official occasions.

:29:16.:29:20.

A reported conversation at a press reception to mark the Golden

:29:20.:29:27.

Jubilee in 2002 went something like this, "who are you?", "I'm the

:29:27.:29:36.

Editor in Chief of the Independent". "what are you doing here?" "you

:29:36.:29:42.

invited me, sir ." "well, you didn't have to come". He likes to

:29:42.:29:50.

cut to the heart of the matter. The current Bishop of Norwich the Duke

:29:50.:30:00.
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asked him, "are you happy clappie?" To hi he reresponded "no, I'm

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smells and bells". I'm pleased to say following this robust exchange

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This week saw a special sitting of the Northern Ireland Assembly at

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Stormont. David Cameron became the second Prime Minister to address

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the Assembly since the Good Friday Agreement of 1998. The Prime

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Minister was driven to Stormont, on the outskirts of Belfast on

:30:25.:30:27.

Thursday afternoon meeting officials as he arrived before

:30:27.:30:31.

stepping inside the famous and historic building. A short walk

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through Stormont and then, Members of the Assembly got to their feet

:30:35.:30:38.

as the Prime Minister entered the debating chamber. David Cameron

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first struck a historical note. I also say what an honour it is to

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stand here and speak in this historic chamber? Of course, I

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recognise this is not a place without controversy. In the past,

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it was for some a guarantee of their place within the Union. For

:31:00.:31:04.

others, a symbol of a state and a system from which they felt

:31:04.:31:10.

excluded. I don't intend to ignite that debate, but I am reminded of

:31:10.:31:16.

the words of King George V in 1921 and his appeal to all Irishmen and

:31:16.:31:26.
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women, "To stretch the hand of forebearance and conciliation and

:31:27.:31:36.

to forgive and forget." It was time to revive the private sector and

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attract investment. Northern Ireland is too dependent on the

:31:41.:31:45.

state. Three quarters of your GDP is accounted for by state spending.

:31:45.:31:52.

At a time when we are dealing with the biggest budget deficit in our

:31:52.:31:55.

peacetime history, that is unsustainable and has to change. We

:31:55.:31:59.

recognise the difficulties facing Northern Ireland as you chart a new,

:31:59.:32:03.

more sustainable economic future, it requires us in Westminster to

:32:03.:32:07.

act responsibly. That is why we made sure that Northern Ireland did

:32:07.:32:10.

proportionately better than other parts of the UK in the Spending

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Review. By the end of this Parliament, the Northern Ireland

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Resource Budget will have gone down by 6.9%, that is 1. And he

:32:20.:32:27.

concluded. 7% a year. Let us work together to make devolution a

:32:27.:32:30.

success. Let us work together to revive the economy. Let us work

:32:30.:32:34.

together to build a shared future. In working together, be assured

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that you have a Prime Minister, a Secretary of State and a Government

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that will always stand by the people here in Northern Ireland.

:32:43.:32:53.
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Thank you. APPLAUSE David Cameron. Now they're springing up in ever

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greater numbers. And they're increasingly important for the UK's

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energy mix. But are wind turbines friendly for us if we're near them?

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Peers have been told that there's growing evidence that wind turbines

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are having an adverse effect on those who live in their shadow.

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Wind farm noise differs from other continuous forms of noise for

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example the noise from a nuclear power station. It has a rhythmic

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pulsing quality with a vibrating effect which many have found too

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invasive and disturbing to live with. It can quite obviously

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seriously damage people's health. My experience is that people mind

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very much indeed at this persistent noise. It is painful, it is harmful.

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I recently was at one station and it has larger wind turbines but far

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fewer of them which is the way that they tend to, the movement is going

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at the moment, less individual turbines but larger ones which are

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much more efficient. I walked around that wind farm and I have to

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say I can't remember hearing the noise while being at the site. I am

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sure they do on occasions, there is those noise issues, but I would

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suggest that noble Lords here stand by them and see what noise there is.

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It is extremely low. Certainly far less than a main road. It is

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bizarre that the environmental worriers support this programme

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when what it does to the visual environment as has been pointed out

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is quite appalling. I object to the fact that they are described as

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"wind farms". I think the farms and the farming community contribute

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enormously to our environment and to our visual environment. These

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objects are quite the opposite, they scar, I think we need a new

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collective name. I think "wind blight" is one that could be used

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in the future. Views about wind turbines. Talking about heat and

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light, Prime Minister's Questions was back on Wednesday after a two-

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week break, so no shortage of issues for Ed Miliband to focus on.

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The Labour leader claimed the criminal justice policy was in a

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"total mess" following news that David Cameron had blocked the plans

:35:25.:35:30.

to give 50% reductions in sentences to criminals who plead guilty early.

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The Labour leader said he knew why David Cameron was in effect

:35:33.:35:41.

"tearing up" Kenneth Clarke's original proposal. We read in the

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newspapers today that the Prime Minister's torn up the Justice

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Secretary's proposals because he felt he had to step in and I can

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see why. There is widespread public concern around this country about

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this proposal to cut by 50% the sentencing for those who plead

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guilty. I just ask the Prime Minister again, the consultation

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ended in March. The Justice Secretary was advocating the policy

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two weeks' ago. Has he torn it up, "yes" or "no"? I think the right

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honourable gentleman ought to do something more useful than read the

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newspapers. One response to the consultation paper came from his

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Shadow Justice Secretary, the man sitting next to him, who said this

:36:26.:36:30.

in response to the consultation paper. He said this: "It is a

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perfectly sensible vision for a sentencing policy entirely in

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keeping with the emphasis on punishment and reform that Labour

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followed in Government." Why the sudden U-turn? Mr Speaker, he knows

:36:45.:36:50.

and the whole country knows he is in a total mess on his sentencing

:36:50.:36:55.

policy. Just like on all of his other crime policies. I now want to

:36:55.:36:59.

ask about another area where he is in a complete mess. Can the Prime

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Minister tell us why he has made such a mess of his health plans?

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I'm not surprised he wants to move on. On the first subject he was

:37:10.:37:13.

found guilty. And as regards NHS reforms, the Prime Minister again

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quoted the words of Labour's John Healey, the Shadow Health Secretary.

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This is what he said: "Looking at the evidence of what works,

:37:22.:37:27.

listening hard to those who know the NHS and learning from the views

:37:27.:37:30.

they get, that is not rocket science, it is simply good

:37:30.:37:37.

Government." So, what he calls a shambles, his Shadow Health

:37:37.:37:41.

Secretary calls good Government. He is not in command of the ship.

:37:41.:37:46.

did he tell the Royal College of Nursing a year before the election?

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There will be no more of those pointless top-down reorganisations

:37:51.:37:57.

that aim for change and instead bring chaos. Why did he say that?

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If he wants to look at what is happening in the NHS, there is only

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one part of the country that is controlled by neighbour, that is

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Wales. In Wales, waiting lists are massively up and health spending is

:38:09.:38:15.

being cut. That is what Labour would do to the NHS. Mr Speaker, I

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will tell him why he made promises that he then broke because he is

:38:20.:38:30.
:38:30.:38:33.

shameless and he will say anything. And the second reason he's made a

:38:33.:38:36.

mess of the Health Service is because he didn't think the policy

:38:36.:38:42.

through. Last June, he ordered the NHS to stop enforcing Labour's 18-

:38:42.:38:45.

week waiting time target. As a result of that, the number of

:38:45.:38:52.

patients waiting more than 18 weeks has gone up by 69%. Why did he

:38:52.:38:57.

scrap that instruction to enforce the waiting time target? I think

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the best that can be said about this performance is obviously...

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Quite rightly, he wasn't thinking about politics on his honeymoon.

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Look, the point I would make is waiting times, what matters is the

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time people wait. Medium waiting times are down. That is what's

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happened in the NHS, that is something he misled the House of

:39:20.:39:23.

Commons about a fortnight ago and still hasn't...

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THE SPEAKER: Order. I know the Prime Minister will be a follower

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of parliamentary protocol and he won't suggest the Leader of the

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Opposition misled the House of Commons. I am sure he will withdraw

:39:33.:39:36.

that remark. I'm grateful. He gave an interesting use of facts

:39:36.:39:43.

in terms of waiting times which are down in the NHS. David Cameron and

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Ed Miliband with the weekly ritualistic exchanges. Backbench

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MPs raised a variety of subjects with the Prime Minister. One

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focused on the age of magistrates compared with the age of Kenneth

:39:51.:39:56.

Clarke, the Justice Secretary and Lord Chancellor. Why do magistrates

:39:56.:40:01.

have to retire at the age of 70 when the Lord Chancellor who

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:40:11.:40:13.

appoints them is 71 this year? point I would make to my honourable

:40:13.:40:20.

friend is, it is important - and I speak of somebody whose mother

:40:20.:40:23.

serve as a magistrate - it is important you get turnover in the

:40:23.:40:28.

magistrates so new come can come in. He's only been in his job for a

:40:28.:40:33.

year. He is doing a superb job and I can tell you there is plenty more

:40:33.:40:35.

fuel in his tank. Abroad, and a Conservative asks about the

:40:35.:40:40.

worsening situation in Syria. Speaker, we are reminded on a daily

:40:40.:40:43.

basis that not everyone in the world is as fortunate as us in the

:40:43.:40:47.

freedoms that we enjoy in this country. In particular, I would

:40:47.:40:51.

like to highlight the horror of the images of the 13-year-old boy who

:40:51.:40:54.

was tortured by forces of the Syrian government in the recent

:40:54.:40:57.

weeks. Will the Prime Minister give me his assurance that he will use

:40:57.:41:01.

every influence he has to ensure the international community condemn

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the activities of the Syrian government and the demand that

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their reign of terror ends? I think the honourable lady has spoken for

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the whole House in what she said about those dreadful pictures of

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that poor boy. There are credible reports of 1,000 dead and as many

:41:16.:41:21.

as 10,000 detained and the violence being meted out to peaceful

:41:21.:41:24.

protesters is completely unacceptable. Of course, we must

:41:24.:41:29.

not stand silent in the face of these outrages, and we won't. We

:41:29.:41:32.

have frozen assets and banned travel by members of the regime and

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we have added President Assad to that list. We need to go further

:41:36.:41:40.

and today, in New York, Britain and France will be tabling a resolution

:41:40.:41:44.

at the Security Council condemning the repression and demanding

:41:44.:41:47.

accountability and humanitarian access. If anyone votes against

:41:47.:41:51.

that resolution, or tries to veto it, that should be on their

:41:51.:41:53.

conscience. And time for a comment about

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football. I am sure the Prime Minister will agree with me that

:41:58.:42:02.

there should be no place for corruption in football, given the

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re-election of Sepp Blatter has brought FIFA into disrepute further,

:42:05.:42:08.

will he take this opportunity to voice his support for those who are

:42:08.:42:15.

calling for the reforms we need to show Mr Blatter the red card?

:42:15.:42:18.

feel personally I have seen football governance at an

:42:18.:42:22.

international level and I wasn't that impressed by what I saw.

:42:22.:42:26.

FIFA's reputation is now at an all- time low and obviously the election

:42:26.:42:31.

with one candidate was something of a farce. It has to become more

:42:31.:42:34.

transparent and more accountable. They have to prove that they are

:42:34.:42:37.

capable of doing the job that they are meant to. Change has got to

:42:37.:42:41.

come from within football and I am sure the FA will want to play a

:42:41.:42:44.

very major role in helping to bring that about. David Cameron. Now who

:42:44.:42:46.

chooses what gets debated in Parliament? Well, historically,

:42:46.:42:50.

it's the Government, apart from Opposition Days. But in the last

:42:50.:42:54.

year there's been a change in the rules. And ordinary MPs, in the

:42:54.:42:57.

form of a Backbench Business Committee, also get to decide on a

:42:57.:43:00.

section of the timetable. First, individual MPs have to make their

:43:00.:43:03.

own pitch to the committee. Here's the former Shadow Home Secretary

:43:03.:43:06.

David Davis arguing on Tuesday why time must be found for a debate on

:43:06.:43:16.

super-injunctions. The last time I spoke to this committee I was here

:43:16.:43:21.

to talk about prisoner votes. That was a pretty clear-cut

:43:21.:43:25.

straightforward black-and-white issue. This is absolutely the

:43:25.:43:28.

opposite. I am looking at Mr Hemming, he knows it is the

:43:28.:43:35.

absolute opposite. We have a series of competing rights and privileges

:43:35.:43:40.

which have now become confused in the last five or ten years after

:43:40.:43:47.

the effects of judicial law-making effectively on the back of the

:43:47.:43:51.

Human Rights Act. It's an area where Parliament rather than

:43:51.:43:55.

Government should have or at least as well as Government should have a

:43:55.:43:59.

major say. We have got so little time and we are never sure when it

:43:59.:44:04.

is going to be taken away from us and the first day we have isn't

:44:04.:44:10.

until 23rd June. It is very topical. The Government will be setting up

:44:10.:44:17.

in short order two Joint Committees. I think one's already set up. One

:44:17.:44:20.

on privacy and one on the super- injunction issue. I think it is

:44:20.:44:23.

important that Parliament rather than Government effectively sets

:44:24.:44:26.

the criteria by which those committees will address their task

:44:27.:44:31.

and they will be reporting within a year so they will be set up shortly.

:44:31.:44:41.
:44:41.:44:42.

That is the primary deadline if you This committee can only allocate

:44:42.:44:46.

the time given to it by the government. That is limited,

:44:46.:44:51.

especially in the chamber. I know you want a whole day, if we were

:44:51.:44:56.

able to offer you two to three hours would you take it? I would

:44:56.:45:00.

say no. This is to point to have an effect. If it can't have that

:45:00.:45:05.

effect I'd rather steal that time from somebody else.. I'm a big fan

:45:05.:45:09.

of what the backbench committee does and the new role it created

:45:09.:45:14.

for Parliament. I wouldn't want to take us and use time effectively

:45:14.:45:19.

when someone else could use it effectively. Another pitch as an

:45:19.:45:24.

MPs argues argues for time for a debate on the proposed new high-

:45:24.:45:30.

speed rail line between London and Birmingham. Those directly affected

:45:30.:45:35.

in their own constituency have as yet formed a view. This is �30

:45:35.:45:40.

billion plus project, more expensive than replacing Trident.

:45:40.:45:45.

If you ask the House 550 members wouldn't have a view. We are keen

:45:45.:45:49.

to have the profile that a debate in the chamber would give us, a

:45:49.:45:55.

three-hour debate in the chamber. You pressed us to have a votable

:45:55.:46:03.

motion. The transport Select Committee inquiry into the business

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case and the national consultation it would not be appropriate for the

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House to divide until after the consultation. The need to put that

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issue out into the public domain, in a high profile way, is

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absolutely urgent. The Attorney General, Dominic

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Grieve, has rejected calls for an inquest into the death of the

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government scientist Dr David Kelly. The scientist was at the centre of

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a huge row between the BBC and the Labour government over the use of

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intelligence on Iraq. The Hutton Inquiry in 2004 found

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that Dr Kelly had committed suicide, but a group of doctors says there's

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plenty of evidence it wasn't suicide.

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Dominic Grieve spoke first about the large amount of paperwork he'd

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received concerning Dr Kelly's death. Having given all the

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material that has been sent to me the most careful consideration, I

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have concluded that the evidence that Dr Kelly took his own life is

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overwhelmingly strong. Further, there is nothing I've seen that

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supports any allegations that Dr Kelly was murdered, or that his

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death was the subject of any kind of conspiracy or coverup. In my

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view, no purpose would be served by my making an application to the

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High Court for an inquest. Indeed, I have no reasonable basis for

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doing so. There is no possibility that at an inquest a verdict other

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than suicide would be returned. Attorney-General's decision

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substanciates the post-mortem and toxicology reports and published by

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the Ministry of justice last October in the interest of

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maintaining the public support. We accept the Attorney-General's

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decision today on the basey he has carefully and clearly outlined his

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detailed reasons for not applying to the High Court to request an

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inquest into Dr Kelly's death duer duh to the lack of new compelling

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evidence that Dr Kelly did not commit suicide. As a member of the

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Foreign Affairs Committee that took evidence from Dr David Kelly I

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never doubted he committed suicide. I leave Lord Hutton was right on

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this even though his conclusions on the war have been challenged. I

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have known the Attorney-General for many years. I know he would have

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done a thorough job. Will he accept that the evidence on this is clear

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and it a's's time to bring closure to that matter and move on.

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questioned Dr Kelly two-days before he died, I formed the view that a

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very distinguished public servant was deeply distressed by the

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situation in which he had placed himself. Although I'm wholly

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unpersuaded by any of the theories put forward as an alternative to

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suicide could the attorney spell out what he thinks would be lost by

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allowing the process of inquiry to be completed by an inquest?

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first problem I have to say is that there is no basis on which the High

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Court could possibly order an inquest. In my judgement, if I were

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to go to the High Court and make such an application it would be

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dismissed. Dismissed I would say, on the basis of my reasoning, with

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a certain amount of irritation. Would the Attorney-General agree

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with me that his statement today should put to bed some of the

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outrageous speculations that members of our security forces

:49:38.:49:48.
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might have murdered Dr Kelly? On Monday, a Labour peer spoke of

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the bravery of women who served in the Special Operations Executive,

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or SOE, during the Second World War. The women were deployed behind

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enemy lines and lived as ordinary citizens while helping the

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Resistance. Agents for the SOE were taught how

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to get out of handcuffs with a pencil, and how to kill with their

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bare hands. They acted variously as couriers, wireless operators

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saboteurs. They found places for planes to land, bringing more

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agents and supplies. They established safe houses and worked

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with resistance movements to disrupt the occupation and to clear

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the paths for the allied advance. They did these things after given

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wartime pressures, my lords, a very brief period of training.

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Apparently, they had each been told, when recruited, that there was a

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50% chance of personal survival. Yet, my lords, to their credit off

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they went. They became the unofficial meeting place for SOE

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people on leave. I do know that one brave woman stayed on over two

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years after the war had finished. Every night she drank her two gins

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and tonics and ate her dinnerment she never asked for or was given a

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bill. That was the way that small hotel honoured our heroes. It is a

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pity that those in charge never saw fit to do the same. My LordS, is it

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too thriet put right this wrong? There are a number of memorials

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around the country. Actually, what we sneed a memorial for all the

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women in the SOE, not just those who were recognised post hue

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mousely. I felt a great deal of shame when Eileen Nern was found by

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herself, no family and the local authority in Torquay had to bury

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her. What an indictment on a nation that owes so much to such a small

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number. Comparison with the French may be difficult because the war on

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their soil. They recognised the work of women. The key message was

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universial reinforced throughout the museum. The service of these

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women was of the highest order and undoubtedly militarily. I have seen

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the brief displays where SOE agents, men and women were trained, barely

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a mention of women. My LordS, it is clear that the outstanding

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dangerous and sometimes deadly service of these women needs to be

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recognised and at the highest level. I ask the Minister to consider

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reevaluating the medals awarded to these women, both alive and post

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hue mousely to be sure they reflect the highest military contribution

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possible. We need tone sure there is a permanent archive in place.

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Otherwise, we will forget. At this small regional museum every sheet

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on the display about the women have these words - I'm refrain to our

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youth. Now, when a grandmother talks to you of the resistance here

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in the lot, watch her eyes. If she shares her story, they'll tell you

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she is always 20. Listen to her. The Business Secretary, Vince Cable,

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has again been criticised for failing to force banks to lend

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money to small businesses. Some months ago, Britain's four

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biggest banks agreed to increase lending in an arrangement known as

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'Project Merlin'. New figures show the banks are

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already falling short of their lending targets by several billion

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pounds. Vince Cable faced MPs on Thursday

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during questions to the Department of Business, Innovation and Skills.

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There is a genuinely difficult problem here of trying to get

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previously highly over extended banks to lend to small and medium-

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sized businesses. The Secretary of State was very critical of the last

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government's performance on this issue much he said the banks ran

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ring around that government. Given that the first indication of

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Project Merlin show a 2.2 billion pound shortfall between what the

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banks are doing and what the government agreed they would do,

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how would he describe the performance of his government on

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bank lending? Of the lending banks two of them have met the targets.

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Which demonstrated that the demand is there for banks that are able

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and willing to change their culture of lending. Where we have taken on

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the arrangements which the last government had was bringing in the

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private banks, which are not owned wholly or partly by the taxpayer,

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into this agreement. They are taking it seriously. We are making

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it clear that we expect this agreement to be delivered and the

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volume of lending to SME's will increase. Is he ready to do a

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little more than monitor this situation. In particular, not allow

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banks to get away with the excuse that the demand isn't there, when

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it's the price of the loan and the terms attached to it that so often

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is too difficult for struggling small businesses who need the

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credit? The Minister must realise that the agreement is a busted

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flush. No good coming from it. The continued failure of the banking

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sector to meet the minimum targets set, continued net, no new lending

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is not acceptable the terms and conditions, as his own member has

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said, under which the loans are made are really very penal very

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often. Can't he get into that? No point monitoring it. We want him to

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examine what is going on and come forward with concrete proposals to

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improve it. We finish with the very first

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speech of the newest Member of Parliament.

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Jon Ashworth was recently voted in as MP for Leicester South.

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By tradition, Mr Ashworth's maiden speech acknowledged the work of his

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predecessor, Sir Peter Soulsby, and also contained plenty of

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interesting facts about his constituency. My constituency can

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boost of much cultural and sporting heritage. The 6 '30s playwright

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grew up there. I believe at one time the singer Engelbert grew up

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in Leicester South as well. Mr Ashworth, please release me

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