16/02/2017 The View


16/02/2017

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Less than a year ago, she was the triumphant leader

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of unionism, taking 38 MLAs to Stormont.

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But a tumultuous few months has seen Arlene Foster

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battling allegations of corruption and incompetence.

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On The View tonight, she responds to the criticisms

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just two weeks ahead of the Assembly election.

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Arlene Foster vows to see off her opponents in this election

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saying she will continue to lead unionism on March 3rd.

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I will accept the outcome of the public inquiry whatever it says. I

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hope it will be a watershed moment and we will look back and say, could

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we all have handled that differently?

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Also tonight - Mike Nesbitt's plan to give his second preference

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to a nationalist has led to a split in his party.

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I'll be asking two former Stormont insiders if it was a generous

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gesture others should follow or politically naive.

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Plus, we take a look at the party political broadcast, American-style.

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And with their very own style, in commentators' corner,

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it's Professor Deirdre Heenan and Newton Emerson.

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What a difference eight months can make.

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Back in May last year it was a triumphant Arlene Foster

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who led her team back into government as the leader

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Fast forward to tonight and we're just two weeks away

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from another election - this time with the DUP

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at logger-heads with its former partners in government,

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and rows over RHI, legacy and the Irish language leaving

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little hope for a return to Stormont any time soon.

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I asked Arlene Foster to explain how she might work

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with Michelle O'Neill after the vote.

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It is not for Michelle O'Neill or anybody else in Sinn Fein to tell

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the people who should lead unionism. She just said she would not support

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you being in the Executive. The Executive will decide who they want

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as their leader in terms of unionism and it is up to the electorate, it

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is not up to Michelle O'Neill. It depends what her mindset is. I am

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not in the realms of blocking or breaking anybody. I'm trying to get

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devolution back up and working because this unnecessary election

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has been caused by Sinn Fein. Sinn Fein has consistently referred to

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what it says is corruption at the heart of government as a reason for

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the collapse of Stormont. It has said that throughout this campaign,

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how do is the DUP respond? There are legal issues around that so I will

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not get into that. In terms of the narrative they have blown up since

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December, we have to look at what was happening eight months before

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that. As you know, we were getting on with the business of government,

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we had a draft programme for government. We had health reforms

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under way. With respect, that is not an answer to my question, I am

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asking about Sinn Fein professing to corruption, an allegation of

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corruption to the heart of government. Let us look at what was

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happening last year. We were getting on with government. It was only when

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I was in China, dealing with issues on behalf of the Executive office

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and I went on that trip with the Deputy first minister's agreement

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because he had taken unwell before the trip. I went to China and when I

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came back, we had to deal with the whole RHI and tobacco which had

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grown up at that time. So it is quite wrong for Sinn Fein to try and

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rewrite what has been happening. -- the whole RHI crisis. Of course it

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is a political characterisation. That is what has been happening

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since then. In the last election campaign, the DUP media at all about

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you, your vision. Let us talk about you eight months on. Your opponents

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say you are not the safe pair of hands they thought you were. This is

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a different Arlene Foster going before the electorate? It is not,

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that is the irony. It is the same Arlene Foster who stood on that

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platform last year. Different circumstances? Different

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circumstances, that is correct but not a different Arlene Foster. It is

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the same Arlene Foster who's asking for support and asking people to

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look at my record in government over ten years and not listen to the

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political smears and allegations, rumours, just because you say

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something more than once does not make it true. That is why I am

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pleased the public inquiry has been set up. Instead of having the drip

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effect over the last period of time, we will actually get the truth and

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justice. I want to ask about something, one of the most glaring

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examples of differences between the DUP, yourself and Sinn Fein is

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legacy cases. The Sinn Fein leader is attending at commemoration at

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Clonoe for IRA members shot by the SAS, can you see any way of bridging

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the gap between your parties when you are all so divided on such an

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important and sensitive issue? I think we have made progress on

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legacy issues. We have had fresh start talks. We have made progress

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about finding the infrastructure of dealing with the past. My position

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is clear, there can be no equivalence between terrorism and

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those people who stood between those of us in society who were living

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through it, the security forces, who were protecting people and

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terrorists who were going out to murder people. It is what it is. No

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surprise about her attending that event. I am not surprised that

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unfortunately she has decided to commemorate and indeed celebrate

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four IRA men... You have no idea that she is celebrating. Well having

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those commemorations, we have a good idea. Let us talk about the RHI

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scandal after fresh revelations today. It was a botched scheme and

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it happened on your watch. I am pleased we now have a situation

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where that is a public inquiry set up so we can get to the truth of

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everything that happened. I absolutely acknowledge their

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frustrations. I acknowledge the anger in the community about the RHI

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scheme. I acknowledge it because I shared it. I was the minister at the

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time so you can imagine how frustrated I am that this has come

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to the fore. Your critics say your ministerial oversight of the scheme

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was incompetent. You were asked to account for your actions in

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monitoring the scheme and you pointed the finger at your civil

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servants. All of that will come out of the public inquiry. That is what

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you did, we already know this. It will all come out in the public

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inquiry and I am content. I hope others will accept the outcome of

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the public inquiry. To date we have had smears and allegations. Hysteria

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are almost in relation to the issue and I am pleased the public inquiry

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will get to the truth of the matter. There was a platform piece in the

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Irish News from you last week, that I am hostile to their interests of

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national as hundreds of people in Northern Ireland. You do concede you

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have made mistakes on this issue? What were the mistakes? I concede

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that in the heightened tension that has happened since December there

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has been a lot of harsh things said about me. Possibly I have to take my

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share of the blame in reacting to that. I hope what will happen after

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the election, hopefully we will all be back in a devolved

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administration, I genuinely hope that it will be a watershed moment

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and we will look back and say, could we all have handled that

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differently? We have had difficulties in the past in

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devolution. We had the flags protest. We had the murder of a man

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in the East Belfast when the IRA were implicated but we work through

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all of that. On this occasion, Sinn Fein decided we would not work

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through it but they would pull the plug and throws into an unnecessary

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election. You had just turned that around and turned it into a way of

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criticising Sinn Fein, I am asking you to analyse what you said about

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conceding that you made mistakes and tell me what the mistakes were. Do

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you know regret talking about feeding the Sinn Fein crocodile last

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week? That is not a laughing matter. It is Sinn Fein for goodness sake.

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We're in an election. Can I tell you some of the things said about me in

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this election. I am interviewing you. Last week I spoke to Michelle

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O'Neill. She sat in that seat and said it was wrong, she had

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admonished her colleagues for talking about giving you manners.

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Did she also admonished her party president when he said he was going

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to break unionists and use equality to do that? When did he do that? Two

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years ago. Let us talk about the present. We want to talk about the

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current issues relevant to this campaign. Do you regret the comments

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you made about feeding the Sinn Fein crocodile? Now, it was in the

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context. You just said talking about looking back and consider the

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dialogue and I ask you if it was wrong, you cannot have it both ways.

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Sinn Fein have used it now there's a joke. They are not offended by it.

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How would you know? They are now using it as T-shirts with see you

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later alligator. You have also said there will never be an Irish

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language act on your watch. That is why your opponents have come to the

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conclusion you are hostile to people who celebrate their sense of Irish?

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Not at all. That is why I decided to do the article in the news to debunk

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that. I am against an Irish language act because of the cost of it. Tens

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of millions of pounds... You do not know the cost? Certainly Sinn Fein

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have not costed it. Have you costed at? We have looked to say how much

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cause the Republic of Ireland government and it is tens of

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millions of every year. How many tens? So it is located if it is 20

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million but not more? I am not saying, is it 20 or 90 million? They

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spend 20 or 30 million on the Irish language. That is only part of it.

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Secondly we would be using the Irish language in an equal weight to

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English. Thirdly, if you are applying to this Civil Service and

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had the Irish language you would have affirmative action. This should

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be debated on the floor of the Assembly. We are going into

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negotiations now, that is what they're looking for so it is

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important the public now. I want to go back to the issue of Irishness

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and whether or not you're highly -- hostile to the Irish language. You

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had an opportunity to send a clear message about that last summer. You

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attended and Irish football games together. He went to both games and

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you refuse to attend the Republic match, wide? Because it is the

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Republic of Ireland and I am a representative of Northern Ireland.

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I was supporting and Northern Ireland team. You could have made a

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gesture by going along? This is not about gesture politics. I am

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supporting the Northern Ireland team. I am passionate about the

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Northern Ireland football team and I want them to succeed. If you're

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seriously saying that the administration has collapsed because

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I did not go to a Republic of Ireland match? I did not say that

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for a second. It is facile in the extreme.

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And made it clear he is not the Northern Ireland football team's

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fans, and that he will be more of it fan of the Republic of Ireland.

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But he saw the political capital to be made out of going to both games.

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You did not reciprocate. But I do not do political capital. So was it

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gesture politics when he should hand the Queen? You would have to ask

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him. It is of no value that he did that? That is a matter for him. You

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must have a view on whether Martin McGuinness as an arch republican was

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prepared to shake hands, take tea, sit down with the Queen and number

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of occasions. You don't believe that is politically significant? Or

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indeed, if she chose to do that. Which she did. So was a good gesture

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for Herbert valueless as far as he is concerned? No, now you are

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putting words into my mouth. I'm not into gesture politics. I am into

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real politics. So that was real politics?

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You going to a football match would not have been?

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No, because I fundamentally believe in the Northern Ireland team and won

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them to succeed. You have confirmed today, I think,

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your party received a large payments advertise a pro Brexit stands

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outside Northern Ireland across Britain, during a referendum

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campaign. Whether that money come from? Of course, as you know, we

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played a key role in relation to the Brexit campaign, and we registered

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as a party in the Leave campaign, because we felt very passionately

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about it. As a result, we played our role nationally, and received a

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donation. How much was the donation?

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It has been properly put into the Electoral Commission. How much was

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it? There is, as you know, rules around this.

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I am asking how much it was. We have stuck with it. I don't have

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the figure here, so I don't know how much. You must have some idea. I

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don't. There was speculation it could have been in the region of

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?250,000. I don't have the figures in front of me. It is hard to

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believe you have received a large amount of money as part of the

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Brexit campaign and you have no idea. I'm not saying I have no idea.

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If you have an idea, how much was it? I'm telling you, it was probably

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accounted for. I don't doubt that. How much did you spend? I have no

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idea. No idea how much you spend? It was last June. You're asking me to

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go back over Electoral Commission returns from last June. I am in the

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middle of an election. You have no idea how much you spend? I haven't.

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You must know where the money came from Ben? -- then? Yes, I do, and it

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has been told to the Electoral Commission. Why is it a secret? It

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is not a secret. We have done what we should have done. There are rules

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particular to Northern Ireland, and if we are to talk about those rules,

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we want to see all the donations open and accounted for, including

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all the money coming from America. So you're not about to say how much

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that was where it came from? No, because under the current rules, we

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have accounted for that and the proper fashion, and... It will be

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made public across the world, but not here in Northern Ireland? It

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will be accounted for under the rules as they currently stand. We as

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taxpayers in Northern Ireland would know where that money came from. We

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have indicated to the Secretary of State we want to see those rules

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changed. What does that say about openness and transparency? Well,

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what I have just that, we want to be open and transparent. We received

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that money under the rules of currently constituted. You have

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conceded you don't expect to return to a reduced assembly with a 38 MLAs

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you had last time, though you are running 38 candidates. How many you

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think you will secure? We are fighting this election to win, and

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you will recall, last year, you told me we would not go back with 38 and

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we did. I asked you if you would go back with 38! I watched the

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interview, but I did not say you would not go back with 38. You,

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interestingly, would not say you would go back with 38 either. What

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you want to do is win this election. Bat what we want to.

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What is your advice about how DV voters should transfer their vote on

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after voting for DUP? Should their second preference before the Ulster

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Unionist Party matter it should clearly be for Unionists, because

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this election will be very close, and I want to maximise the number of

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Unionists returned to Stormont. Why do I say that? For this reason,

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because if there are a majority of nationalist returns to Stormont, we

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could find ourselves in the situation where nationalists use

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that to push for a border poll, and that would cause great instability

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and divisiveness like we have never seen before in terms of Brexit,

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which was supposed to be the most divisive thing that had happened to

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us. That's why I think it is wrong for Mike Nesbitt to advocate

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transferring to nationalise, because it may lead us into a very difficult

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position. Arlene Foster, talking to me earlier

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this evening. Now, in two weeks' time we'll be

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going to the polls with the option of giving multiple preferences right

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down the ballot paper. This week, though, Mike Nesbitt

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found himself at odds with many of his own party

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when he revealed on Sunday Politics he would be giving an SDLP candidate

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second preference rather than giving That's a very significant thing

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three Unionist leaders say, and possibly without precedent in the

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history of Northern Ireland. -- for a Unionist leader to say.

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So just how unusual - or not - is voting outside

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With me is former MLA John McCallister and the one-time

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SDLP special advisor Michael McKernan.

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Welcome to you both, and thank you for joining us tonight. First of

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all, John. In 2015 the UUP had an electoral

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pact with the DUP, now Mike Nesbitt is saying don't necessarily

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transfer to unionists. It is, and I except there are two

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different electoral systems, and I was critical, in fact. I resigned

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from the Ulster Unionist Party because of an electoral pact, and

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that is why disagreed with them. If you are serious about removing and

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changing the government at Stormont, then of course, you should vote to

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transfer to opposition parties. That is the logic. The problem might but

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intake of that them -- the problem might got into is that the message

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is so mixed in west Belfast, he was voting for itself two years ago and

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is now voting for Ulster Unionist Party and transferring to the SDLP.

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I would love to see more people doing it, but to do it in the

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context of not even, well, speaking to the SDLP leader before you

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announced it, or indeed, speaking to member 's of your own party.

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We don't know what happened beforehand, of course, but it is the

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case that he said what he said, and he said this what I am doing, and

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not necessarily saying everyone else should do it, but quite a few of his

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candidates came out very quickly and said, we are not recommending that.

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It is very difficult as a party leader to separate the two, when you

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say in a political interview, as you were doing on Sunday Politics, you

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know, you cannot separate out in a throwaway line, this is my personal

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view. It just doesn't work like that. The message from a few years

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ago as, to do this and do what is logical, and I mean, every time I

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debated my opposition bill at the time, I mentioned the two key things

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in the opposition, scrutinising the government and providing an

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alternative. But you need to work on that throughout a period of years,

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but they haven't had a long period in opposition. That message is just

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too mixed and too confusing for voters not having your own party on

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board. It makes it look even more confused than it needed to be.

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An economist has said on the record today that he did not know Mike

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Nesbitt was going to say what he said, and he did not reciprocate. He

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did not say that he would do the same thing that Mike Nesbitt said he

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would do in east Belfast. I know you are not an SDLP member any more, but

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what do you think members will have made of what was said on Sunday?

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Firstly, I think Mike has been quite brave, given that candidates are

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never more jittery than at election time, and they have clearly got the

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jitters in that party. His party members might not have

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seen it as brave. But the shock, horror is exaggerated

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to me. Unionists have voted for nationalists before. There was

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tactical voting in Westminster elections, and regularly that has

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happened with Unionist vote. So that is number one. There should not be

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that surprised with the Unionist vote.

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And in the PR at election, people would say that benefits West

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Belfast? Yes, and that is a critical point.

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I will give Mike the benefit of the doubt, saying that while he knew he

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would probably create a media storm, he has actually move the issue front

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and centre, and in his election in ambition, which is nothing short of

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regime change, he is saying, if you want regime change, you have to vote

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for the Ulster Unionist Party one rid of the DLP, and vice versa if

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you want rid of Sinn Fein. The difficulty is with that, while he

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says vote Mike, get Colin and vice versa, I think it is the case that

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eight of his high-profile candidates have come out and said, don't do

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that. What does that say about the message?

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It is OK. They are looking at their local situation, and Danny Kennedy,

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for example, needs to hoover up votes from TUV, Ukip, etc, to get

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him through in Derry- Armagh. People are looking after themselves and

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should not get so excited. You might even argue it is illogical. We have

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just heard Arlene Foster say she is calling on all DUP people to

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transfer to the Ulster Unionist Party by other people who want to

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put her out of business, yet he is calling for transfers to them. There

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is a logical round. That is a good way of putting it.

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And I suspect there will be people at home who are perhaps baffled or

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bamboozled by precisely what message they are being given by different

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politicians on any given day of the week. It is very complicated, isn't

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it? It becomes that kind of complicated

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when you change the electoral system and then you change the message. If

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you are looking to use, in that phrase, regime change, the logical

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outcome of that is voting for the opposition parties. Personally, I

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would have preferred to sea the alliance brought into that as well,

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and going even further down that road. The point that Arlene Foster

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was making in your interview, about voting for Unionists, and it being

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slightly illogical, that is trying to bring the election back to not

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how Northern Ireland works or making Northern Ireland or the assembly

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work, but bringing it back this inflated border poll, a tribal

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headcount. I would like to see us normalising and continuing. My

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criticism of anything to do with Mike is he really needs to warm up

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his own party to this before just announcing it in the middle of the

:26:25.:26:27.

heat of an election campaign. I think that is the danger that he set

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himself on Sunday. And it is the case that, and history

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tells us very clearly, it is very difficult to make out... To break

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Gaza tribal politics. You hear a lot of people saying social media is

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bouncing with people talking about the need to break away from the

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orange and green divide, and yet, arguably, our electoral system

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encourages it? Well, maybe not this time. We have had our biggest

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turnouts in the times when people have had most hope and have had more

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optimism, and the future looked better. We have had a gradual

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decline in turn out as people have become more cynical and

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disappointed, so maybe this occasion, it feels the union and the

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SDLP can excite people about this potential change and a new

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government and the new approach and people who want to work together, if

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they can commit people of that, they might get a higher vote share.

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You have looked at some of the numbers, but Phillips actually

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benefited from Unionist transfers in the past?

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Yes, very sadly, he was left with a Sinn Fein candidate when he was 400

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behind. -- very simply. The Ulster Unionist Party just been elected had

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920 votes to distribute of her surplus. Richie needed half of them,

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but got all of them. He got 900. So there is a degree of

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sophistication on the ground? Yes, I think he would benefit again.

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Someone else got elected under his own steam in west Belfast last time,

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but with the move devices, that is a tough ask for him, and he would be

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dependent on Unionist transfers to get in.

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It is confusing and bamboozling, but that sophistication is there a

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grassroots level, and people know what they want to do? They do. The

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other important thing on that is actually getting turnout, getting

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people excited, because breaking through, people have to know it is

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not enough to tweak your support. You actually have to go to a polling

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station. Just one more point, I think the

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opposition parties have been gifted with an opportunity in the fact that

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Arlene Foster has been ruled out as First Minister. That means there is

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a hiatus least the first six months of the enquiry. I don't see the

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judge being pushed around. I would say that is a year, so Colum

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Eastwood will be quick to jump on that and say, vote for Ireland, you

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vote for Michelle. The opposition could have done with

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more time, but that is politics. Gentlemen, thank you very much.

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Thank you John McCallister and Michael McKernan.

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Now let's get some thoughts from our commentary team

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Professor Deirdre Heenan and Newton Emerson.

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Good evening. Let us talk about that Arlene Foster interview. What did

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you make of it? Of all the terrible aspects of that interview, the one

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that jumped up and need was the figure for the cost of Irish

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language in the south. Her argument boils down to cost but she could not

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remember the one number that it boils down to. She said tens of

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million. She should know an exact figure. She only has one figure to

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remember. She could then launch into a baggage of details but she could

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not remember any factual details, that is her leadership. She cannot

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offer a generous vision, what is she bringing apart from a disaster she

:29:54.:30:03.

cannot get out of. Her supporters will differ. I thought it was a

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shocker, she do it yourself no favours. There were lots of

:30:06.:30:09.

inconsistencies. She said I do not do jester politics. But I would have

:30:10.:30:17.

gone to IgE team. But as far as I know she does not support one. What

:30:18.:30:22.

mistakes did you make a? It is all the fault of Sinn Fein. She went on

:30:23.:30:29.

to list the mistakes they had made. No apology for a comment about

:30:30.:30:35.

feeding the Sinn Fein crocodile. Her response was bizarre. What does that

:30:36.:30:40.

mean? Sinn Fein was her partner in government. I do not think it is

:30:41.:30:47.

acceptable. Most people thought it was offensive. Is she saying she

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could not accept that people thought that kind of language was not

:30:52.:30:58.

offensive? Really, the inconsistency, saying one thing and

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seeing something else later on. She seemed very unsure of herself. I

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thought there were signs that she had decided to bring across the

:31:07.:31:12.

different attitude but she could not hold it together. It is too much to

:31:13.:31:16.

expect someone to change their personality in the course of the

:31:17.:31:21.

campaign. If you remember when Peter Robinson suffered a similar disaster

:31:22.:31:26.

in 2010, he appeared to be genuinely humbled at least for a while but

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there is no sign of this with Arlene Foster. She seems to be struggling

:31:33.:31:37.

to find the right tone. She swings around all over the place. She tries

:31:38.:31:43.

to be jokey and Charney, it comes across as someone who's not sure

:31:44.:31:50.

where she should be. What did you make of her decision not to go to

:31:51.:31:54.

the Republic of Ireland match in France last summer? It was

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ridiculous. It would've been so easy to find words alone that even if she

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did not feel she was able to go, she could have paid tribute to Martin

:32:06.:32:09.

McGuinness for finding the time to do so when you mentioned their North

:32:10.:32:12.

of Ireland team she could have mentioned her local wine but the

:32:13.:32:18.

whole manner of her approach was dismissive and contemptuous. I am

:32:19.:32:21.

sure the Northern Ireland team herself will not be thanking her for

:32:22.:32:28.

that. Again, we cannot be sure about that, maybe we will hear from

:32:29.:32:32.

individuals who have their view on that. I just want to ask about the

:32:33.:32:42.

breaking story today about political donations and we know now, as she

:32:43.:32:47.

confirmed, a substantial donation was made by an organisation in

:32:48.:32:51.

England to support the DUP Brexit campaign but we do not know what the

:32:52.:32:56.

organisation was or how much the amount paid was? The attitude was

:32:57.:33:03.

you expect me to know figures? There are number of key figures that you

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should know and instead of trying to refer back to something that

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happened years ago, those figures should be in the public domain. She

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is correct when she talks about the rules and what they are. Equally,

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you do not have to. And then comes across as very shifty. I know

:33:24.:33:28.

there's that I am not going to tell you, why should I? The point is she

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does not have to make that public. She has reported it to the electric

:33:35.:33:38.

commission and that is all that is required. That organisation in

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England could have made that a nation and declared openly over

:33:44.:33:48.

there but she needs to get a better explanation over a year. She does

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not have to come across saying, we want to work together. She's clearly

:33:55.:33:57.

working towards the hardline. Thank you, we have to leave it there.

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That's it from The View for this week.

:34:03.:34:04.

No Sunday Politics this weekend but we will be back next Thursday

:34:05.:34:07.

with a special outside broadcast from Ulster University.

:34:08.:34:09.

We've seen some interesting party political broadcasts this campaign.

:34:10.:34:11.

But they're nothing compared to those in the United States.

:34:12.:34:14.

And across the pond things have certainly changed over the years.

:34:15.:34:16.

It's morning again in America and under the leadership of President

:34:17.:34:43.

Regan, our country is stronger and better. Why would we want to return

:34:44.:34:49.

to where we were. $1 million spent to become the mayor of Minneapolis,

:34:50.:34:56.

a $100,000 a year. I will not take money from developers or the

:34:57.:35:02.

political angle, I will not go to the strip clubs anymore.

:35:03.:35:05.

To be in the Lords, you have to be punctual...

:35:06.:35:07.

literally have to slam the door in somebody's face.

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