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Hello and Welcome to the Week In Parliament.

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Hard Brexit?

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Soft Brexit?

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It's going to be a slow exit from the European Union.

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And don't expect any details any time soon.

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It would not be right for me or this government to give a running

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commentary on negotiations.

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There is going to be no running commentary at this stage on the

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negotiations.

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But definitely making his exit was the chairman who gave

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us plenty of committee drama.

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Why are you still in your post?

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I need to excuse you from this committee because

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your evidence so far has been unsatisfactory.

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And buy one, get one free.

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As the Greens decide to have

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two co-leaders, an MP says job sharing could be the way

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forward at Westminster.

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I'm really enthusiastic about job shares so I

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say congratulations to the Green Party for being prepared to be

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trailblazers in this.

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But first, it's 11 weeks since the country

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voted to leave the European Union.

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When Theresa May entered 10 Downing Street in mid-July

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she assured victorious Leave supporters that Brexit would mean

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Brexit, a sound-bite if ever there was one.

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So when MPs returned from their summer holidays many

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thought they would be in a for an informative

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progress report on how negotiations were going.

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After all, a Cabinet Minister had been appointed

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specifically for the job.

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David Davis was dubbed the Brexit Secretary.

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Sure enough, on day one of the new term, Mr Davis

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was at the Commons despatch box.

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But those hoping for a detailed update were disappointed.

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Statement, the Secretary of State for exiting the European Union.

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Secretary David Davis.

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Naturally, people want to know what Brexit will

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mean.

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Simply...

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Simply, it means leaving the European Union.

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So we, we will decide on our borders,

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our laws, and the taxpayers' money.

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It means getting the best deal for Britain.

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One that's unique to Britain and not an off-the-shelf solution.

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We are confident of negotiating a position that means this country

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flourishing outside the European Union,

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keeping its members as our friends, allies and trading partners.

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We will leave the European Union but not

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turn our back on Europe.

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We heard we were going to hear what the

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government's strategy for Brexit was but what we have heard instead

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hasn't been a strategy, it hasn't been thought out plan, it's just

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been more empty platitudes.

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Many of us this afternoon wanted rather more

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detail than a few more reheated old sound bites this afternoon.

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and what we got is an essay on how

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waffle means waffle.

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Can I commend to him the approach of the Japanese

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government, which spent the last seven weeks not simply

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going to the lengths of setting up a Brexit commission

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but has reported its results.

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I hope that diligence and speed will inspire his work in his

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department over the months to come.

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He should know well that what we are doing

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at the interests of a limited number of companies,

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and a limited number of banks, which is obviously the issue

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for the Japanese government.

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We're looking at the interests of our whole economy.

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So it will take just touch longer.

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So the Wednesday, and the Prime Minister was put on the spot.

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The UK Government has had all summer to come with a plan, as

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strategy, so far we have just had waffle.

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So may I ask the Prime Minister a simple question

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but quite important,

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does she want the UK to remain fully within the European single market?

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What I want for the UK is that we put into

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into practice, the vote that was taken

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by the people of the UK to leave the European Union.

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And I say to the right Honourable gentleman

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And I say to the right Honourable gentleman that we can approach

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the vote that took place on the 23rd

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of June in two ways.

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Try and row back on it, have a second

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referendum, say we didn't really believe it.

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Actually, we are respecting the views of the British people.

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But more than that.

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We will be seizing the opportunities that

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leaving the European Union now gives us to forge a new role for the

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United Kingdom in the world.

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The European single market is the biggest market in the world

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and it really matters to our businesses

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and to our economy.

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I asked the Prime Minister a very, very simple question.

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There is either an in or out answer.

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So let me ask it again.

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Does she want the United Kingdom to remain fully part of the European

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single market? Yes or no?

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The right honourable gentleman doesn't seem to

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quite understand...

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What the vote on the 23rd of June was about.

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The United Kingdom will leave European Union

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and we will build a new relationship with the European Union.

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That new relationship will include control of

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the movement of people from the EU into the UK

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the movement of people from the EU into the UK and it will include

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the right deal for trade

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in goods and services.

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That is how to approach it, and I also say this to him.

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In looking at negotiations, it would

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not be right for me or this government to give a running

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commentary on negotiations.

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The Brexit secretary said that staying

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in the single market was improbable.

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The Prime Minister's spokesperson said that was not the case.

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It's one or the other, can't be both.

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So can the Prime Minister tell the house

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what the government's policy actually is?

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It will be a new relationship, and as indicated in my statement and

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in Prime Minister's Questions, I will not be giving a running

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commentary and the government will not be giving a running

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commentary, and there is a very good reason for doing that.

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We want to get the best deal, the right deal

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for the UK, and if we were to give a constant running commentary,

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and give away our negotiating hand and that would not be what we would

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achieve.

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Why did the Prime Minister authorise a very public dressing down

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of the Brexit secretary, merely for telling

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of the Brexit secretary, merely for telling the house that

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membership of the single market and free

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movement of people tend to go together?

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Isn't it possible the Brexit secretary, who has believed

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in this stuff for years, has thought more deeply about it

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than the Prime Minister, who has been a Brexiteer

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for a matter of weeks?

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And can we revert to in this house to the

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traditional practice, where ministers are disciplined for

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misleading the house, as opposed to the odd occasion

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occasion where they're court telling the truth?

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Please could she tell us and clear up the

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confusion, do she value membership of the single market, does she think

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it should be an aim or an objective of the negotiations, and we should

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be trying to stay in it if we can?

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We will be looking to develop a new model

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of the relationship between the UK and the European Union,

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and we will not, as I said earlier, be setting out every bit of our

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negotiating hand in advance of entering those negotiations,

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because that would be the best way to come out with the worst deal.

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Definitely not the last word on Brexit.

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Now, are they the way to improve social mobility?

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Or do they belong to a bygone era?

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The words 'Grammar Schools' more often than not produce

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a strong reaction - either for or against -

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among both public and politicians.

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And even before the Government unveiled its consultation

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on its plans, allowing every secondary school in England

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to become a grammar, MPs and peers were getting

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their thoughts in early.

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In the Commons the Education Secretary, herself the product

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of a comprehensive school, said she was open-minded

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about selection.

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She said the education world had seen many changes

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in the last 30 years.

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We now have a whole variety of educational offers available.

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There will be no return to the simplistic

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binary choice of the past where schools separate children into

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winners and losers, successes or failures.

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This government wants to focus on the future,

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to build on our successes

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and create the truly 21st-century school system.

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But we want a system that can cater for the

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talents and the abilities of every single child.

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So, to achieve that, we needed truly diverse range of

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schools and specialisms.

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This policy will not help social mobility, Mr

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Speaker, but will entrench inequality and disadvantage.

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It will be the lucky few who can afford the

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tuition and who can get ahead and the disadvantaged that will be left

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behind.

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The Secretary of State well knows that apart from the best

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possible teaching, the most important thing we can do for our

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young people is to encourage them as they make their way through school.

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Given that we still as a nation are dealing with a legacy of a divided

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education system, why on earth does she think that subject in more

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11-year-old children to that experience, 34 parents having opened

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the bloke, telling them that they have failed

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opened the envelope, telling them

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that they have failed

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is going to encourage and support them in their

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self-esteem and in day continuing career through the education system?

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I'm sure many across Torbay where three grammar schools work perfectly

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well with comprehensive schools, a studio school and a very

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successful technical college,

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we've been listening to some of the comments we've had today,

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particularly from the Shadow Education Secretary with some

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amazement.

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Would she agree with me that really there is nothing radical

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about the idea that we are going to give other areas the chance

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to have the education system that Torbay

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already benefits from?

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The Minister will surely share the view that the

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biggest and most significant problem in British education is the long

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tale of underperforming boys in our poorer areas, few of whom will

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actually pass the 11 plus.

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How on earth does she think the creation of

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grammar schools, in simple terms, is a solution to this?

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As my right honourable friend will know, people

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move to Kent because of its grammar schools.

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Does she agree that it is not right for an excellent academic

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education to be only available to those who can move to the catchment

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areas of outstanding schools?

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We do need to improve diversity and improve choice.

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As the Prime Minister said, the reality is that

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too often in Britain, we do have selection,

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but it is on the basis of house prices, which is

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totally unacceptable.

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And plenty of opinions also in the House of Lords.

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Does the Minister not accept that for every

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grammar school, there is consequentially three secondary

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modern schools?

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In other words, that comprehensive schools become

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secondary modern schools so that one child's social mobility is

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bought at the expense of the destruction of opportunity

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for three other children?

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Anyone concerned about the great lack of social mobility in recent

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years will be delighted about any possibility of the return

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to grammar schools since it was their destruction

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that was a major cause of the reduction of social mobility.

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Thoughts on grammar schools.

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And now a look at some of the other stories around Parliament

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in the last seven days.

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As the Paralympic Games move into full swing,

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British success at the Rio Olympics was recognised in Parliament.

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Team GB came second in the Medals table, pushing the Chinese out

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to third place.

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I know that the whole House will join me in congratulating the

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British Olympic team on a truly magnificent performance in Rio.

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That record medal haul, second in the

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table ahead of China, and so, many memorable moments.

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We can say they did their country proud.

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Can I join the Prime Minister in congratulating the entirety

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of the Olympic team for their fantastic achievements

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at the Olympics in Rio.

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How safe is this place?

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BBC Panorama reveals the concerns of a whistle-blower about standards

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at the Sellafield nuclear reprocessing plant in Cumbria.

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Local MPs are worried.

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I have many constituents who work at Sellafield and they have

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been in touch with me because they are concerned

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about what the Panorama programme said about safe staffing levels.

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These staff are committed to high standards of safety.

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They are a huge asset to our nuclear industry.

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And they feel undermined what has been said in this programme.

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As far as the independent regulator is concerned, who attaches enormous

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who attaches enormous importance to Sellafield in terms

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of the resources they commit to monitoring this,

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Sellafield is safe.

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Is it ready for take-off or at least approaching the runway?

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Peers wonder about the future of Heathrow Airport.

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Should we now consider not asking the question as to whether or not

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Heathrow is going to have a runway but ask the question

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of whether Gatwick and Heathrow are going to have runways?

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My honourable friend Lord Spicer asked where the government

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decision would be announced.

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I wonder if my noble friend could answer that question?

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The best answer I can give is that the government will be

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looking to make that decision very shortly.

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A glimmer of hope in the temps to end a long dispute.

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Junior doctors in England have called off their planned week

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of strikes in September but walk-outs are still

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on the cards for future months.

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This afternoon's news delaying the first strike

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is of course welcome.

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But we mustn't let it obscure the fact that the remaining planned

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industrial action is unprecedented in length and severity and will be

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damaging for patients, some of whom will already have

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had operations cancelled.

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The public is looking for the Secretary of State to try

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and meet the junior doctors, stop vilifying, stop pretending

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they are the enemy within, and meet their reasonable demands.

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New term, new lands for the future.

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At the Scottish Parliament, Holyrood, the First Minister sets

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out the legislative way forward.

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The outcome of the EU referendum has created significant uncertainty

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and anxiety for individuals, businesses, organisations,

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and communities right across the country.

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We will introduce a Social Security Bill.

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This will see us takes the first steps towards a distinctive

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Scottish social security system, based on dignity and respect.

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This bill will be a powerful demonstration of our determination

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to use new powers to create a fairer Scotland that we wish to see.

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I hope that this will start a new phase in the British

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government's approach to welfare.

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One which spends less time complaining about policy and more

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time spelling out what it intends to do with the powers it has.

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A new report says the Palace of Westminster is not just creaking

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and crumbling, it could suffer at catastrophic event.

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One MP wonders if it is worth spending billions

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on restoration and renovation.

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This morning it was announced that billions of pounds will be spent

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on refurbishing this House.

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I'm sure the Leader of the House meant to announce that we were going

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to have a full statement on when we are going

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to have a proper debate in government time about this

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proposal, particularly when they learn that this could cost

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up to ?4.3 billion of public money.

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And I'm sure all of the constituents would want to know if that is a good

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use of public money.

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Does anybody know what this man does in his latest job?

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Patrick McLoughlin is the new Chancellor of the Duchy

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of Lancaster.

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Come again?

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The honeymoon period for the Chancellor of the Duchy

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of Lancaster is well and truly over.

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I've been asking a series of questions about his

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responsibilities, which have not been answered,

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after 56 days in office.

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So, can I ask any member of his team, where is he today

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and what does he actually do?

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The honourable gentleman has asked a number of questions.

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I'll make sure that I relate his questions to the Chancellor

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of the Duchy of Lancaster.

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But he is responsible for the chancellory

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of the Duchy of Lancaster.

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And as a tailpiece, MPs have been putting their dogs through their

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paces in the hope of winning the coveted award of Westminster dog

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of the year.

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The award went to Labour's Jonathan Reynolds and his two dogs named

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after two American presidents Clinton and Kennedy.

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Well, moving swiftly on, in a first photo Westminster party,

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Greens have elected Caroline Lucas and Jonathan Bartley as co-leaders,

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replacing Natalie Bennett, who stood down as leader in July.

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Job sharing remains rare in the world of politics.

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They have been calls to allow MPs to split their workload

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between two people.

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Our reporter Ros Ball spoke to the Conservative MP

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Sarah Wollaston who was herself a job sharing obstetrician and GP.

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Ros asked her why she thinks job sharing might work for MPs.

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Well, I have experience of job sharing myself as a doctor.

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I job shared for over a decade.

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I think the thing about job sharing is there are a lot

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of advantages to it, not only the individuals themselves

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who are job sharing the people that are working for.

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Very often, you end up with more than the equivalent

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of a single whole time worker.

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You often also bring into areas of expertise, so, for example,

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the job share partner that I was working with in medicine,

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we both had areas of special interest and we could both bring

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that to the role.

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But I think within politics, I can see that working very well.

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So, for example, someone might have a lot of expertise in health

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and social care, for example, but less expertise in business.

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If I was job sharing with somebody who had that role, we could bring

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both into a single role.

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I think also, crucially, you could allow some people

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to become MPs who might not be able to do so if it was a

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single full-time role.

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So, somebody, perhaps, with disabilities, who didn't feel

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they were able to commit to a full-time role

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for whatever reason.

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I think that would allow us to have a much more representative

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parliament which I think is a good thing.

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So, who needs more convincing about job sharing, do you think?

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Is it the people at Westminster or is that the public?

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Understandably, people feel very strongly about the link,

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the constituency link, and they worry that we

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would have pitfalls.

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People look at what would happen if it didn't work out,

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what would happen if one person dropped out, all these

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kinds of things.

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But that can happen with single full-time MPs as well.

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I think rather than seeing all these things as insurmountable barriers,

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yes, we should look at how you could overcome them,

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and I think very clearly upfront people should have a plan for how

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they would manage that because obviously it is the voters

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who decide, if the voters didn't want to have a job sharing

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MP representing them, they could put their cross

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elsewhere, just as they can do now.

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So, the Green party are forging ahead and job sharing

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for the leadership role.

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As someone who has job shared, what would your advice be to them

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for how to make it work?

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My advice would be communication.

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My advice would be communication. Between you and also outside.

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I would love to see this work.

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I'm really enthusiastic about job sharing so I say congratulations

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to the Green Party for being prepared to be trailblazers in this,

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and I hope it works and the absolute key to it, I think,

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is good communication.

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Sarah Wollaston.

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Now, a little bit of history.

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In 1999, the government of Tony Blair got rid

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of all the hereditary members of the House of Lords.

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Well, not quite all.

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92 hereditaries were left.

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And despite several deaths over the years, there are still 92.

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The reason being that every time I hereditary peer passes away,

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an election is held within the Lords to replace him or her.

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Labour peer Lord Grocott has said this temporary measure has gone way

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past its sell by date and watched to be ditched.

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In most respects, hereditary peer is in this House are completely

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indistinguishable from any other peer, apart from the absurd anomaly

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of their being able to pass on their passage to another

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of their number when they die or retire.

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My Lords, the by-election system is way, way, way past

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its sell by date.

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My bill scraps it into simple clauses.

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For this House to take the lead would enhance our reputation

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and improve our Parliament.

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Its passage would hurt no one and cost nothing.

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The history of debate in this House about the future of hereditary

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peer by elections has not been a happy one.

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But let us put an end to them now, pass this bill, and put an end

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to a process which does no credit to this House, to Parliament

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generally, or to British democracy.

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The government does not believe that now is not the time

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for comprehensive reform, given the priorities elsewhere.

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Not least implementing the result of the EU referendum.

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My noble friend talks about incremental changes

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and then says, oh gosh, we've got a lot of other important

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things to deal with, such as Brexit.

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I cannot understand why this tiny, modest bill which will take very

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little time of Parliament should be in any way compromised

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by the other major changes.

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I cannot understand why the Government should resist

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this tiny but important and sensible bill.

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It would just change the whole position of the House,

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and this is not the time to do that.

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But what we do want to do is keep talking about this problem

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and the new leader...

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The new leader...

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Let me finish.

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The new leader looks forward to working with peers to support

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incremental reforms which command consensus across the House.

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And Lord Grocott's bill that would end the hereditary by-election

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system was later given initial approval but it is not likely

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ever to pass into law.

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Finally, in a year of huge political change, the first week

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of the new term produced one more.

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The House of Commons home affairs committee is under new management.

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The Conservative Tim Lawton will be in charge until a new committee

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chair is elected.

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It follows the resignation of this man, Keith Vaz,

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who became the latest politician brought down by a sex scandal.

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The Labour MP endured several days of salacious revelations

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in the tabloid press.

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Keith Vaz have chaired the home affairs committee for nine years,

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a period when its profile was raised considerably.

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The sessions were often topical and newsworthy,

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and Mr Vaz's style of chairmanship was always worth a watch.

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Mr Buckles, since last Thursday, when this matter was raised

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in the House of Commons, your company's value

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has gone down by 9%, your chairman has issued a statement

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not necessarily backing your position, why are

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you still in your post?

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Er...

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Mr Robbins, this is very unsatisfactory, I'm surprised that

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you cannot answer a question about whether or not someone

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who is reporting to view knows what their budget is.

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I need to excuse you from this committee because I think your

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your evidence so far has been unsatisfactory.

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I would be grateful if you would let me know by six o'clock today

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whether he knows what it is.

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That is all this committee is asking.

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Mr Burnham is not a member of this committee so what goes

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on between him and the Home Secretary is entirely different.

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Do you understand that?

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I do understand that.

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Good.

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So, thank you for coming.

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OK.

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Peter would never let me and if I had ever done that,

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Peter would have been all over me like a rash.

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All of this sounds more like Clouseau rather than Columbo.

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I mean, I have to say...

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You're having dinner with people you are investigating, you don't

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know they are being investigated, you sign deals two months...

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I know they are being investigated, of course I do.

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I, in one of my interviews, said I'll take...

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If anyone can prove what I said is an true, I will take them out

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the best dinner of the lives.

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Oddly enough, one has come with it.

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If any of you can demonstrate what I said isn't true,...

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It may be that actually no one wants to have dinner with you.

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Ignore victims!

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I think we are running out of time.

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I have a final question about...

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Time is infinite. Unfortunately...

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You cannot run out of time.

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Who is next? Theresa May?

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She may not show up.

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Check she knows what day it is.

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Mr Brand, I have a final question for you.

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Some interesting moments from what we might call

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the Keith Vaz years at the home affairs select committee.

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Never a dull moment. Well, almost.

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That is it for this programme.

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There will be more fall-out from the grammar schools

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announcement in the Commons and the Lords in the next few days.

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Cabinet minister David Davies will be undergoing a grilling

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on the Brexit issue.

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So, do join me for the next week in Parliament.

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Until then, from me, Keith Macdougall, goodbye.

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I know the House will join me in congratulating

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