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Hello and welcome to the Week In Parliament.

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On this programme:

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Council tax bills will be going up to boost

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funding for social care.

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But opposition parties say it's the wrong way to tackle the problem.

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This is an unfair way to raise additional money,

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which will increase inequalities between rich and poor areas.

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The crisis in Syria.

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Was it a mistake for the Commons to reject taking military action

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against President Assad three years ago?

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I think we are deceiving ourselves in this Parliament if we believe

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that we have no responsibility for what has happened in Syria.

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And the Labour former Cabinet Minister Peter Mandelson

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weighs into the Brexit debate with a warning.

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You are risking a very severe deterioration in the UK

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business environment.

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But first, the Government has been facing pressure over social care

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for older and disabled people.

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At Prime Minister's Questions, the Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn

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dedicated five of his six questions to social care funding.

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The crisis affects individuals, it affects families and it affects

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the National Health Service, so why doesn't she do

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something really bold?

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Cancel the corporation tax cut and put the money

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into social care instead.

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This social care crisis forces people to give up work to care

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for loved ones because there isn't a system to do it.

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It makes people stay in hospital longer than they should and leads

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people into a horrible, isolated life when they should be

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cared for by all of us through a properly funded

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social care system.

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Get a grip and fund it properly, please!

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When he talks about governments ducking social care,

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let's look at those 13 years of Labour in government.

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They said in 1997, they said they would sort

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it in their manifesto.

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They had a royal commission in 1999, a green paper in 2005,

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the Wanless Report in 2006.

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In 2007 in the CSR, they said they would sort it.

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In 2009, they had another green paper.

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13 years, and no action whatsoever.

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Well, the next day, the Government revealed what action

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it was going to take on funding the social care system in England.

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The Local Government Secretary Sajid Javid announced measures amounting

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to an extra ?900 million over the next two years.

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The plan is to let local authorities bring forward

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rises in council tax -

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what's called the social care precept.

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And money cut from a housing scheme will also be

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channelled into social care.

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Today I can confirm that savings from the reforms to the new homes

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bonus will be retained in full by local government to contribute

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towards adult social care costs.

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I can tell the House that we will use these funds

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to provide a new dedicated ?240 million adult social care

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support grant in 2017-18, to be distributed fairly according

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to relative need.

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Last year, the Government announced that councils would fund social care

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via a precept of 2% a year.

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In recognition of the immediate challenges that are facing the care

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market, we will now allow local councils to raise this funding

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sooner if they wish.

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Councils will be granted the flexibility to raise the precept

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by up to 3% next year and the year after.

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This will provide a further ?208 million to spend on adult

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social care in 2017-18 and ?444 million in 2018-19.

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I ask gently of the Secretary of State, is this really the best

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time to be choosing to cut corporation tax on Amazon,

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Sports Direct and the big banks?

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Since the Prime Minister came to office, there has been much talk

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of help for those who are only just about managing their finances.

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That seems to have gone out of the window today.

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This is surely a truly feeble response to a national crisis,

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and the LGA would be entitled to reject this proposal and put

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the ball firmly back in the Government's

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court to think again.

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This is an unfair way to raise additional money,

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which will increase inequalities between rich and poor areas.

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Now, the crisis in Syria prompted an emergency debate

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in the Commons on Tuesday.

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There were some powerful speeches as MPs pleaded with ministers to get

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aid to civilians and to stand up to President Assad and Russia.

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In his first speech as a backbencher in 13 years, George Osborne harked

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back to a Commons vote in 2013, when MPs rejected David Cameron's

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plans to take part in airstrikes against President Assad's forces.

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I think we are deceiving ourselves in this Parliament if we believe

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that we have no responsibility for what has happened in Syria.

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The tragedy in Aleppo did not come out of a vacuum,

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it was created by a vacuum, a vacuum of Western leadership,

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of American leadership, British leadership.

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I take responsibility as someone who sat on the national Security Council

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throughout those years.

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Parliament should take its responsibility because of what it

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prevented being done.

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Meanwhile, a Labour MP warned about the activities of Russia.

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I don't think we have even begun to wake up to what Russia is doing

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when it comes to cyber warfare, not only their interference,

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now proven in the American presidential campain,

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probably in our own

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referendum, we don't have the evidence, but I think

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it is highly probable.

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Certainly in the French election, they will be involved,

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and there are already concerns that they have been interfering

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in the German elections coming up.

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We have got to wake up to this.

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Ben Bradshaw there.

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Now, turning to domestic affairs, let's take a look back

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at the challenges facing politicians in Holyrood and Cardiff Bay.

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The Scottish Government has gained new powers over income tax.

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So there was a lot of interest in the Scottish Budget on Thursday -

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unveiled by the Finance Secretary, Derek Mackay.

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We cannot accept, at this time of austerity, top earners benefiting

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benefiting from an inflation-busting tax cut.

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So I will limit the increase in the higher rate threshold

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to inflation, and not give a substantial real terms tax-cut

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to the top 10% of income earners.

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And plans to give more powers to the Welsh Assembly were discussed

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in the House of Lords on Wednesday.

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But the former lord chief justice Lord Judge warned

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that the UK Government would still have the power

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to overturn laws made in Wales.

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We have been discussing this legislation.

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It can be wiped out, any part of it, primary,

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secondary, tertiary, whatever it may be, it can be wiped

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out by a minister without any consultation with anyone

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at the National Assembly of Wales.

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Here to explain the challenges facing politicians in Scotland

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and Wales are our Wales correspondent and our

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Scotland correspondent.

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David, starting with Scotland, it's the first budget

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in which Scotland has been allowed to set income tax.

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What have they done with these new powers?

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They've looked at them and said, we will fine-tune them.

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They are essentially sticking to what the UK Government is doing.

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The basic rate of tax will remain at 20%,

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but as we heard in that clip,

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when you start paying higher rate tax, they are putting the threshold

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up by inflation and no more.

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So if you are a higher rate taxpayer in Scotland,

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you will start paying the higher rate tax a bit earlier

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than you would be in England.

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These powers come into effect in April next year, so from then,

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in very crude terms, the Scottish parliament will have

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far more responsibility and more power over the money it spends.

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There has been a lot of pressure from opposition

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parties over this budget.

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Now we know what is in it, how are they reacting?

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As you would expect, the Conservatives, who are now

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the principal opposition party at Holyrood, said this

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is a tax-raising budget, meaning that people in Scotland,

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if you follow the Conservative argument, will pay more tax

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than people in the rest of the UK.

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Labour have decided to go on the offensive.

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They would have liked a higher top rate of tax.

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They would like to have seen a 50% tax rate for the highest

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earners in Scotland.

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And the Liberal Democrats are saying there is a sleight

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of hand in all this.

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When you look away from the income tax announcements, money

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is being taken away from local authorities in Scotland.

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Turning to Wales, the Welsh assembly has shut up shop,

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but the House of Lords has been discussing the Wales Bill.

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Could you explain to us the main points in the Wales Bill?

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This is devolving more powers to the Welsh assembly,

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mainly on things like energy, transport, the way elections

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are run in Wales, even the name of the assembly.

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It is also removing the need for a referendum before

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devolving income tax, so Wales will, if this is passed,

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have powers over a certain amount of income tax,

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as in Scotland.

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It is also moving to a reserved model of powers, which is something

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Scotland already has, which is meant to make it simpler

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to understand so that you presume everything is devolved other

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than what is listed.

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However, there are concerns that it's a little overcomplicated.

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There have been a lot of critical comments about it

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in the House of Lords and elsewhere.

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What are the key criticisms?

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Mainly on the reserve powers.

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The list is extensive of the amount of exceptions.

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They say it's too complex and will lead to wrangling

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in the courts, exactly the thing that it is meant to avoid.

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There are also concerns that the UK Government has a veto over certain

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powers in Wales and could stop things happening in Wales.

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All this is against the backdrop of Brexit.

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In Scotland, how has that changed the political atmosphere?

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You're right, everything is seen through the prism of Brexit,

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be it in Cardiff, Edinburgh or Belfast or of course

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here at Westminster.

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Within hours of the Brexit result coming through,

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Nicola Sturgeon was saying it was highly likely

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that there would be a second independence referendum.

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Slight rowing back on that now, but the constitutional question

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in Scotland is now very much alive, and it is all tied in with Brexit.

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Depending on how the Brexit negotiations go,

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whether they are easy or hard, whether Scotland feels

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it is properly represented, we have to remember that

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although the UK as a whole voted to leave the European Union,

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Scotland, by quite a large majority, voted to remain.

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And in Wales, how has Brexit affected political

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discussions there?

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It has really dominated discussions in the Welsh assembly,

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although it is very different to Scotland.

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Wales voted to leave.

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However, the majority of assembly members actively campaigned to stay.

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So they're slightly out of step with the national mood in Wales.

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But they are very keen to make sure that Wales has a voice,

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that the specific concerns of Wales are heard and are listened

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to in these negotiations, because Wales has received

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an enormous amount of regional funding from Europe.

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Last question on the future.

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2016, no one could have predicted what has gone on.

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Could I ask you to share any thoughts on 2017

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and how things are going to go?

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Very simply, Brexit will still be important.

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It will dominate the relations between Holyrood and Westminster

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and between the Scottish Government and the UK Government.

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We also have local authority elections in Scotland in 2017,

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where the SNP could do very well.

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It could take local authorities from Labour in Scotland,

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which will mean that the SNP is in control of Holyrood

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and a lot of the large city councils as well.

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That is a double-edged sword.

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It means the SNP will have the power, but also,

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if things go wrong at a local level or there are controversies

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at a local level about spending and things like that,

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it will be SNP councillors perhaps criticising the SNP

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government in Scotland.

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And similar for Wales?

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Yeah, it will be Brexit-tastic for everyone in Wales next year!

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In the same way, we also have local elections and it will be

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interesting to see how Ukip do, seeing as Ukip now have the power

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base in the Welsh assembly.

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Can they build on that in local elections following the vote

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to leave, or where does that leave them now that we are leaving

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the European Union?

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Thank you both very much.

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Theresa May has been attending a summit of European Union

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leaders in Brussels.

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She wasn't present at an informal dinner to discuss Brexit

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but during official talks, she said she wanted an early deal

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on the status of EU citizens in the UK and British citizens

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living in other EU countries.

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It follows another week of twists and turns in the Brexit debate.

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Mrs May has said she intends to trigger Article 50 in March leading

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to a two-year exit procedure.

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But on Monday, the Chancellor Philip Hammond suggested -

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in a session with the Treasury Committee - that there might be

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a drawn-out transition period.

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There is, I think, an emerging view among businesses, among regulate as,

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and among thoughtful politicians, as well as quite a universal view

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among civil servants on both sides of the English Channel that having

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a longer period to manage the adjustment between where

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we are now, still members of the European Union,

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and where we get to in the future as a result of the negotiations

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that we will be conducting would be generally helpful,

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would tend towards the smoother transition, and would run

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less risk of disruption, including crucially risks

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to financial stability.

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Two days later, the Brexit Secretary David Davis had his first session

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with the committee set up to examine the UK's exit from the EU.

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The committee chairman, Hilary Benn, wondered what he had made

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of the Chancellor's remarks about transitions and

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thoughtful politicians.

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Now, the Chancellor said on Monday there is an emerging view among

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business regulators and thoughtful politicians that it would be

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generally helpful to have a longer period to manage the adjustment

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as we leave the European Union.

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Can we classify you, the Secretary of State

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as a thoughtful politician when it comes to transitional arrangements?

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Well, I'm not sure about the second qualification.

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I hope you can classify me as a thoughtful politician.

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In that context, let me be clear about where I think we are going.

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Firstly, as the Prime Minister said a number of times,

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and as I have said a number of times, what we're up

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after is a smooth and orderly exit.

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That is the overarching aim.

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People get frustrated with us for sticking to the overarching aim.

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But that is what we are trying to do, that is the purpose

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of at least part of the tactic and strategy of it.

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And within that box, we want to get the maximum market

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access for British companies with the minimum of disruption.

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And, so, we will do what is necessary.

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What if all of those things cannot be negotiated within the,

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it could be 18 months, depending on what view

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he is taking.

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He has said 18 months.

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I think that it is all negotiable in that time.

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I mean, that is the sort of core of this, really.

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We have got a lot to do but that is one of the reasons...

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You may have thought perhaps my opening answer was not

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that helpful but it is one of the reasons that we are

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taking our time to get prepared on all fronts.

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The Article 50 process was written to allow departure

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of the European Union.

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That is its purpose.

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And, plainly, the architects of it and the authors of it thought

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it was time enough to do the job.

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The Brexit story moved swiftly on again on Thursday

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when Sir Ivan Rogers - the UK's ambassador to the EU -

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was reported as saying that the European consensus is that

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a Brexit deal might not be reached for another ten years.

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The Labour former Cabinet Minister, Peter - now Lord -

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Mandelson happened to be giving evidence to a Commons

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committee that day.

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He was asked about the possible risks of Brexit.

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You are risking a very severe deterioration in the UK

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business environment.

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This deterioration is not going to happen straightaway.

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That was the mistaken impression that you were

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given in the referendum.

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It will be a gradual, inexorable, worsening of the conditions

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It will be a gradual, inexorable, worsening of the conditions

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for business in the UK.

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And that is why those who say it all seems to be going OK so far

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are completely missing the point. It hasn't even kicked off yet.

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You will be well aware, I'm sure, that Ivan Rogers,

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the British ambassador to the EU, in a leaked memo today,

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has been revealed as saying that a trade deal will take ten years

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to negotiate after Brexit.

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Can I ask what your gut reaction to that kind of revelation is?

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Lord Mandelson said that sort of timetable was "realistic"

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if the government wanted a bespoke trade deal with the EU.

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While an agreement on the exit terms will come earlier because this

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negotiation will come first, and can be a proved by a majority

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of the EU's member states, the separate, quite separate

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negotiations on what trade arrangement replaces our membership

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of the EU will be harder, it will be longer, and it

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will require the approval of all member states

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and their parliaments, not just a majority.

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Lord Mandelson, giving his views on Brexit.

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Now, time for a roundup of some other stories from Parliament.

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Nigel Owens - a top rugby referee - spoke to the Culture Committee

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about tackling homophobia in sport.

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He said that before coming out as gay, he had

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experienced suicidal feelings.

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I had to accept my sexuality first of all, and it took me an overdose

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and a few days in intensive care and only just coming back to life

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until I accepted that.

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There were people to help me through this and tell me things

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will be OK and I can look back now and say yes, they were right,

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things will be OK in the end, but at the time, a lot

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of it was to do with dealing with myself, and you are quite right

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in what you say there.

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We have to do more we can to make the environment

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safer for these people, the matter what age they are.

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It was the last Prime Minister's Questions of 2016.

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It started on a jovial note - with a few jokes at the expense

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of the Foreign Secretary, Boris Johnson.

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In the light of the Foreign Secretary's this play of chronic

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foot in mouth disease, when deciding on Cabinet positions,

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does the Prime Minister now regret that pencilling FO against his name

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should have been an instruction, not a job offer?

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LAUGHTER.

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Mr...

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Order!

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There is far too much noise in the chamber,

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we have heard the question, but I want to hear

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the Prime Minister's answer. Prime Minister.

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Thank you, Mr Speaker.

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I have to say that the Foreign Secretary is doing

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an absolutely excellent job.

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He is, in short, an FFS, a fine Foreign Secretary.

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And now for a quick rundown of some other interesting nuggets of news

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from in and around Westminster.

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Here's Richard Morris with our countdown.

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Sleaford by-election winner Caroline Johnson arrived

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in the Commons this week as the 455th woman ever to have

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been elected as an MP.

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That total now finally equals the number of male MPs

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in the front parliament.

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Ministers faced three urgent questions on Monday as MPs

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asked about social care, the Fox bid for Sky,

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and the conflict in Yemen.

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The last time so many urgent questions were asked

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was in March of 2015.

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Tory MP Peter Bone got into a bit of trouble on Thursday

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for an unusual choice of headwear for asking a question

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in the Commons.

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The hat was made by a local charity but one glance at the Speaker,

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and it was promptly removed.

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Margaret Thatcher has topped the Woman's Hour

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Power List on Radio 4.

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The list was compiled of women who have made a difference

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to real women's lives.

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Also featured was Barbara Castle.

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And season's greetings, let's take a look at some

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of the festive cards from party leaders this year.

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Merry Christmas.

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Richard Morris.

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Now, as many of us sit down to Christmas leftovers

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on Boxing Day, spare a thought for the shop assistants

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who are back at work for the first day of the sales.

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A public petition has called for shops to be

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closed on Boxing Days.

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The Government has said it's not for ministers to tell retailers how

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to run their businesses.

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But the Labour MP, Helen Jones, recalled a time when the sales

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didn't start until January.

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Now, I confess that we are bit long in the tooth, I can remember

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when Boxing Day closure was the norm.

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It was a bank holiday.

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Nobody thought of doing anything else.

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Certainly, all big stores would close.

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And people stayed at home with their families.

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In fact, I'm old enough to remember that when the New Year sales

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actually began in the New Year.

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After the 1st of January. So, people stayed at home.

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If they wanted to go to the sales, they went later on.

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And here is the thing. Nobody starved to death.

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The world did not run out of cheap televisions.

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Nor did the country run out of supplies of winter coats and boots.

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So, I confess when I first realised that people

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were shopping on Boxing Day, I would look at people

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going into the supermarket, I would look at the queues,

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and I would enter myself, for heaven's sake, get a life.

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However, I have moved from indifference to anger.

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And I have done so because all of the evidence shows that

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poorly paid retail workers are being exploited to fuel

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a national obsession, a debt fuelled shopping binge that

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in the end does know one any real good.

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Now, it's six months since the Labour MP Jo Cox

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was murdered in her constituency in West Yorkshire.

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She is still very much on the minds of MPs.

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As a tribute to Jo Cox, the parliamentary rock band, MP4 -

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along with several pop stars - have released a single.

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It's a cover of the Rolling Stones song,

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You Can't Always Get What You Want.

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Proceeds from the downloads will go to the Jo Cox Foundation.

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MPs remembered their colleague at Prime Minister's Questions.

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Sadly, Mr Speaker, our late colleague Jo Cox will not be

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celebrating Christmas this year with her family.

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She was murdered and taken from us.

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So, I hope the Prime Minister, as I'm sure she will,

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join me in encouraging people to download the song,

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which many members helped to create, as a tribute to Jo's life and work

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and in everlasting memory of her.

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The right honourable gentleman is absolutely right

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to raise this issue.

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I'm sure everybody in this House will send a clear message,

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download this signal, single for the Jo Cox Foundation.

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It is a very important cause.

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And we all recognise that Jo Cox was a fine member of this House

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and would have carried on contributing significantly

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to this House and this come true, had she not been brutally murdered.

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It is right, I think, that the Chancellor is waving

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the VAT on this single, I think everybody involved in it has

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gave their services for free, I'm having a photograph with MP4

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later this afternoon.

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Pete Wishart is a member of MP4.

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And...

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And once again, once again, let's just encourage everybody

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to download this single.

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Well, that's it from me for now.

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Keith Macdougall will be with you on Monday night at 11

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for another round up of the day here at Westminster.

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Until then, from me, Kristiina Cooper, goodbye.

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Questions

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Questions to

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Questions to the

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Questions to the Prime

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Questions to the Prime Minister.

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This morning, I had meetings with ministerial colleagues

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and others in addition

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to my duties in this House.

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I shall have further such

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meetings later today.

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Mr Speaker, can I take the opportunity to wish you

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