15/11/2012 This Week

Tonight, This Week hits the political beat with the Bill. It is

not Super Thursday, but millions had the opportunity to vote for

their local sheriff today and elect a new Police Commissioner. Has

anyone bothered? Does anyone care? The Mirror's politically correct PC

Plodd is on the case. It might look slippery around here. There's been

more going on than meets the eye - there's been interrogations and a

fair few evasions. Some gas customers think prices are

criminally high. Martin Lewis names and shames the

guilty culprits. Of course energy companies will try and charge as

much as they can. Their job is to make money for shareholders. For me,

it is the regulators and politicians who need to be in the

doctor not doing enough to protect us. As Police Commissioners are

elected and the BBC awaits the appointment of a new boss, how

important is the chain of command? Fun Lovin' Criminal and former

Marine Huey Morgan knows a thing or two about being in charge. Keep it

going. Nothing to see here. Nothing happened here. Nothing! You're

nicked! Welcome to This Week, no

continental train journeys for us. We are the third-class carriage of

BBC current affairs. We are joining tonight, bouncing off the studio

walls, buzzing, totally wired, having spent the day sipping Blue

Nun Frappucinoss and our new tax advisers, Starbucks and co-. They

keep nearly 800 failing outlets dispensing the brown stuff out of

the goodness of their hearts. Despite �3 billion of UK revenue

they don't allow themselves to make a vulgar profit on which they might

be taxed. Yes, their appearance this week before the Commons

convinces us you don't need morales to fill out an empty tax aturn,

just a filing cabinet in the Netherlands.

We barely raised an eyebrow when we ordered a tax bill. It is their

most popular brew. If you want to know more about corporate

responsibility and paying less tax than Jimmy Carr, just Google it, as

the old accountancy saying goes. It will pay you a tax-free iTune and

you would be Amazons - there's no tax in there either. Speaking of

those who need to wake up and smell the coffee. I am joined by two

Westminster hot-shots, who will keep you up all nightlong. Think of

them as the Mellow Birds and full- fat grande latte, with extra cream

of late-night political chat. I speak of course of #manontheleft

Alan 'AJ' Johnson and #sadmanonatrain Michael Choo Choo

Portillo. I am glad you came back on time.

Your moment? I think maybe the meeting today of the National

Security Council to consider Syria. The national security council sound

big and American, doesn't it. They seem to be moving towards a

different position on Syria. The reason seems to be we are reached

"a Kosovo moment," a moment people demand something should happen.

These are not good reasons for making policy. It is true horrible

things are happening in Syria and they have a horrible dictator, who

by the way does not support British interests, he supports terrorist

organisation. We don't know a great deal about the opposition groups

either. I don't think we want to get our hands into this particular

mangle. I am suspicious about what is driving British foreign policy.

One to watch and see what happens next. We cannot do anything without

the Americans. We should watch them. A lovely moment from Wednesday.

Lady Campbell, from sush on the has made an increasing contribution to

Parliament, has found it increasingly difficult to speak and

breathe. She wanted to reform a bill in the Lord on Wednesday. They

amended Standing Order 12, which has existed since 1707, which said

the only people who can speak on the floor of the House of Lords is

a peer. They amended it so she could open and then have an

assistant. There was not a single vote gepbs it. So the start of --

against it. So, the start of House of Lords reform. They have a heart

after all. Who would have thought it! More of Pippa's top tips for

the festive season. I know you cannot wait for that. We love

fruity German wine here on This Week. We have been getting through

more than usual recently, not just to deaden the pain of Diane's

absence, we have been using it to warm our cockles. There's no money

left for the heating. We are not alone. Others are feeling the pinch

too. We asked Money Saving Expert, Martin Lewis for his gas-powered

It's cold. Winter is coming and as always five of the big six energy

companies have announced price hikes. Now, when I ask the users of

my website, there are 14 million of them these days, p you were meeting

a minister, what would you want them to tackle? The answer, number

one, always petrol prices, right now, number two gas and electricity.

So, it seems to me politicians, you need to get a grip.

Negative energy news is rampant. This week alone, we have British

Gas increasing prices tomorrow and of course allegations that the

entire wholesale energy market is being perverted. It is's no wonder

Just think about this for a moment - the way our energy system

currently works, it is effectively a form of regressive taxation on

those who lack financial confidence. That means people like me, who are

affluent and plugged in pay less to boil this pan of walker than a

struggling 80-year-old granny. MPs please don't oversimplify this.

Recently I have tell you telling many constituents to switch. We are

in a period of market flux. If you do a comparison, the one who are

cheapest, it probably has not put up prices yet. Meaning many will

move out of the frying pan into the fire. When the market is moving you

should either fix or wait. Plus, politicians often use the

wrong language when they talk about cutting your bills by switching.

You see, bills have been going up about 20% year on year. That is

about the same amount you save by switching. So overall, you are

saving compared to what you would have paid. People are expecting to

see their bills lowers - that doesn't happen. They think the

whole thing is a con and they don't switch again when they need to the

next time. So, what should the Government do? Well, it needs to

make the system more simple and more transparent. That's the only

way the competitive marketplace can work. If that fails, get rid of

pricing from companies and let the regulator set it. With the average

bill at �1,390 a year, this winter people will be choosing between

heating and eating. Martin Lewis, from a cold house in

Shepherd's Bush, to our freezing studio. Welcome to This Week. Why

can't politicians get a better grip of energy prices? Because I think

they are too scared to admit from a consumer, not a supply side, the

competitive market place of -- has not worked. It worked on people

having the willingness to move. There are a lot of us who do. We

tend to be working-aged people. The middle classes, affluent....

the ones in fuel poverty. That is the problem. So, actually we are

effectively rewarding the people who need it least. It is the way

banks work. They give loans to those who have good credit scores.

Energy is not a public good, but it is getting on to a public good. We

are coming to a crisis point. �1400 a year, average energy price. Part

is because our stock of terribly insulated houses. Average income is

�26,000 - that is a huge chunk after tax income. When I first

started, 10 years or so, energy was a big bill alongside phones. Energy

is up there with council tax, after your mortgage or rent, it is the

biggest bill you have got. If you cannot afford to turn on the

heating that is a health danger. Why is it beyond the wit of

politicians, under all Governments of recent times to arrange a system

where the poorest in society just get the lowest tariff? You have to

remember, Martin is right about politicians not concentrating on

this. Prices were going down for a long period. I was responsible for

this in DTI when we were a net importer of gas rather Thanet

exporter for the first time. Then we were concentrating on new build,

how do we get more gas into the system? We have the pipelines from

the Netherlands and Norway. That was the priority. Prices fell,

because for a while there was more competition and world prices were

falling too. Now they are rising and we are suffering. When rising

prices - why can't we arrange for the poorest in society just to get

the lowest tariff? This is what David Cameron famously promised of

the Energy Bill. Can you answer the question? Because n a way there is

an income patibility, that you will give the lowest price to a set of

people and have competition. I don't think politicians are yet

given up on competition. You could have one to provide the lowest

tariff. I'm not sure I see that. If you declare that the lowest tariff

must go to the poorest... You mean the lowest within any particular

supplier? That doesn't help. You have the problem that the older

people will not switch to a cheaper supplier. You could mandate that

they had to provide the lowest tariff. What is fascinating is I am

not sure the Prime Minister meant to say what he said. He said

exactly what the public want. I was polled on this on the site. We said

to people, look, what do you want - the range of tariffs we have now,

where there is a difference. �13.90 on the average. -- �1390, or do you

want a few tariffs, so the cheapest will not be as cheap or one tariff?

80% of people didn't want what we have now. A huge number said, just

give me one tariff. They wanted regulated tariffs. That is what the

pub lib want. I can understand that -- Public want. I can understand

they may want a variety of tariffs, but I would have thought most

domestic consumers simply want the lowest price. Why do they need a

variety of tariffs? There is always going to be some, whether you want

to fix and lock into today's rate or a variable. What we have is a

competitive marketplace, or supposedly, where it works for the

people who take advantage of it. What interests me is you hear

politicians and they try and spin it back towards the companies. My

view is simple - we privatised, we sold it. The company's jobs is to

It's not a free market by any means. Are the regulators up to the job?

No, it needs much stronger regulation. In particular, we have

heard this week about The Guardian, a kind of LIBOR fixing scandal

which is being investigated. That's criminality in effect, isn't it?

Yes. That is illegal fixing. I'm wondering since we haven't got a

free market in energy, whether the regulator is good enough to create

a fair market. No, is the answer to that. I think politicians are

reaching the point they are beginning to lose faith in the

ability to produce the best deal for consumers. It's a psychological

and philosophical moment if that is what you conclude. For the last 20

years, it's based on the idea that competition would give people a

deal. In most things in life, that is what happens, at the shops, with

the telephones, if you fly on airline, competition's brought down

prices. What's happening with the prices, they would be rising more

if it wasn't for competition? partly international pricing, we

need to insulate our stock of houses in this country much better.

Also, people simply don't understand. You go on to a

comparison site, plug in your details and tell tell you who is

cheapest, it's that simple. It's a little daunting perhaps for someone

in their late 70s, the most vulnerable people on a state

pension? So the idea for supporting that is switching collectively. The

Labour Party's got one I believe. The price you get if you use that

will not be as cheap as a comparison. The second problem we

have with it is I looked at one and the people who provided me said you

can collectively get it cheaper, but then you won't be told you will

go back on the variable. I refused to do it because if you can't be

told your price is going up, what is the point in getting involved so

energy companies won't play ball with collective switching.

discussion about this is complicated enough without looking

at the tariffs behind it With the collective switch, find someone you

trust who says do this. I wanted to be one of those people but I

couldn't find a tariff good enough to be able to stay it. My data is

one of the things where you get someone like me or someone run ago

website could say, fill in this form, we'll get your data from the

energy company, we'll use that to analyse your bills but again, it

won't help the 75-year-old who finds it all too complicated which

is the problem. There are votes for this on the Conservative Party

which comes up with a credible policy. It matters so much? Yes.

That's why David Cameron has been berated for what he said and I

believe that possibly what he said wasn't extremely well thought out,

but at least he's connecting with what is worrying people. That's

Martin's point and a key concern, I hope politicians realise that.

Whenever I say I'm going to meet a minister, what should I like to

talk about, 50% is petrol prices, the other 50% is this, this is

number two, petrol. If you are stuck at home with nothing better

to do than to finish that bottle, watch us waffle and scratch your

electronic tag. Fear not Mr Qatada, things are about to get more

rock'n'roll. Ex-marine and Fun Lovin' Criminal is ordering the

chain of command. Tonight's Pippa top tip - toast. You need some

bread which you can buy from Harrods with money and a toaster

which is also available at Harrods on daddy's credit card. You put the

bread in the toaster and hey presto, out pops the toast. Amazed. Next

week, how to plug in the toaster. We think of ourselves as law-

abiding folk. Alan never kicked a dog on his delivery rounds, did

you...Er Yes. You are nicked. Michael's crimes are only sartorial,

but Theresa law and order May had to tell the Commons get that Abu

Qatada couldn't be kicked out of Britain again. We went on the

Evening all. When you're a copper, you're never off duty, always on

the lookout for the good folk of your parish. My beat is the village

of Westminster. You'd think it was rather quiet and nice, slippy

around here, but you would be surprised.

Back in the day, nobody had to go to a polling booth to pick a Police

Commissioner, but now, in this modern era, some people have to

vont who's going to be my boss. David Cameron's dream of a lot of

law and order zealots could turn into a nightmare if the Labour lot

use it as a platform against his police cuts. What misdemee north-

west have I found? Who'll make the identity parade? The boss of one of

the country's most respected institutions - I'm not talking

about the police - had to resign. I'm talking about the boss of the

BBC, one of his successors, George Entwistle was sent on his way after

Amateur Night was found guilty of a double offence. In light of the

fact that the director general is also the Editor in Chief and

ultimately responsible for all content, and in light of the

unacceptable journalistic standards of the Newsnight film broadcast on

Friday, 2nd November, I have decided that the honourable thing

to do is to step down from the post of Director General.

Fair cop Entwistle. Except his double bubble �450,000 haul was

judged daylight robbery. Oi, George, put that swag down!

It's difficult to justify the level of payment that has been talked

about and I do hope that the level of concern about this is being

noted by the BBC Trust and indeed by Mr Entwistle himself. George

Entwistle should reflect on this and only take that to which he is

entitled under his contract. Today, the wrongly implicated Lord

McAlpine made clear that he's after the BBC and those who wrongly named

him on Twitter. To call someone a paedophile is to consign them to

the lowest circle of hell and while they're still alive. Is that where

you've been? Absolutely. I think it describes pretty much what happened

to me in the first few days of this event. It gets into your bones, it

gets into... It makes you angry. That's extremely bad for you to be

angry. It gets into your soul and you just think there's something

wrong with the world. Excuse me, Sir, I'm just checking

you are not committing a major felony. Could I see your TV licence,

please? �145.50, that'll do nicely. On your way now.

But there's one real bad boy that everyone in the village would love

nicked but he's very good at escaping the long arm of the law.

Qatada is a dangerous man, suspected terrorist accused of

serious ciems in his home country of Jordan. The British Government's

obtained from the Jordanian government ashurns not just in

relation to the dream of Qatada himself but about the quality of

the legal processes that would be followed throughout his trial --

assurances. We will therefore seek leave to appeal today's decision.

This is an extremely serious and worrying judgment that means that

from tomorrow, Abu Qatada will be back on Britain's streets. I think

people will be horrified across this country to learn that that is

the case. And the chief super's wasting police time by pretending

it's nothing to do with him, that he's an innocent bystander and

powerless to make an arrest. completely fed up with the fact

that this man is still at large in our country. He has no right to be

there, we believe he's a threat to our country... Fed up, frustrated?!

He wants to try being a copper on frozen pay, a worse pension with

the threat of a P45 hanging over you!

The art of good policing is of course the deployment of forensic

questioning to obtain a full and frank confession. Do you pay your

tax? I dunno... Be forensic! Do you pay your FULL tax? Still don't know.

Forensic, forensic, or maybe we should use the rougher technique of

the Public Accounts Committee when they investigated Starbucks, Amazon

and Google over what tax the corporations do or do not pay.

entire activity is here, yet you pay no tax here and that really

riles us, it riles us. Can I clarify. We do pay corporation tax,

for Amazon. A tiny bit in relation to your sales, a tiny bit, you

won't tell us your sales? We have paid in excess of �100 million in

payroll taxs in the last five years, tens of millions in business rates.

A view on the street in middle earners who pay taxs is that these

corporations don't seem to be I told you. It might look slippy

but there's never a quiet week in Westminster Green. Keep safe. Good

night. He was then arrested for driving

dangerously with a bike and for impersonating a policeman. We are

going to bail him out tomorrow if we have some money left. Miranda

Green of the Lib Dems joins us here. Always good to see you here. These

elections for the Police and Crime Commissions took place today. Looks

like the turnout was low, maybe historically low. Does it matter

that the turnout was low, does it affect them? I think it's extremely

serious, yes. I don't think it's a good idea to invent huge new tiers

of voting systems in which nobody's interested in participating. I

think this is quite a major error, in my view. Might it be that if

these people take their positions and there's maybe controversy about

them about the way they do things that next time around we'll take

more interest in them? Perhaps that will happen. Since this game has

been started, we have to hope that it develops in a positive way, but

I do think that there are other priorities. I think making this

large experiment and extending democracy into the Public Services

without making the case for it first, without doing the groundwork,

was not wise. It's maybe not just a case, Alan,

of a low turnout, it could be a miniscule turnout. That has to

devalue them, I would have thought? There are reports about 10%, some

saying 5%. 5%! That was the last thing that I heard as we came in.

It matters. If there was a question on a ballot paper that said, vote

for saying that this is an entire waste of time and a position that

nobody wants, that would have won the day. I think really all the

political parties are going to have to think about this again. Maybe it

will work. It might grow on us? doubt it very much. Off policy here.

If you are going to introduce an elective mayor, you have to

introduce one. We didn't have this, we didn't have a proper

consultation period on this. It's not just police, but people in

Local Government and all political parties who felt this was being

foisted upon an unwilling police force when you could have made

changes to police authorities that needed reform. Just because the

police didn't like it? Not just the police. Why didn't the Government

have the courage of its own policy? It's almost what it did with

elected mayors, it says it should have them, then called the

referenda and didn't do anything about it and didn't encourage

anything? It's all very unfortunate. This was a very promising idea but

it's severely damaged by this. It might have held the election on the

same day as other elections which might have disguised the turnout.

But the Liberal Democrats didn't want that. I know. It's your fault!

Everything is, as you know! As we know! It's a default position. I

mean, particularly since these are new elections, I mean most people

don't know what the Police Committee is or anything like that,

so they are unfamiliar with this concept. It should have been on a

day when there were other elections? It probably would have

helped. I tend to agree with Alan and I think that there are

unfortunately devaluations of voting in democracy if you have

multiple elections that people aren't interested in and I'm

worried about that. The London Mayor position was not that popular

when it was first started. Now after the general election it's

probably the biggest election in I think when it comes to today's,

because it's not happening in London, actually, that's been a

problem for the coverage and the build-up for the campaign, because

none of the media, who are all London-based, are voting. We know

how London-centric the media is in this country. That is a problem. We

are guilty of that. The big question is, will this win in

Humberside? I hope so. The polls are closed. The polls are closed.

You ought to give Prezza a medal. If anyone raised the profile of

this it was the fact that John Prescott was standing. You said you

thought the turnout might be very low in Humberside? Very low in Hull

and I guess the rest of Humberside as well. Where you have a character

and a lot of interest because of John's standing, it's low. Goodness

knows what it will be elsewhere. that tulgt Lib Dems wanted devow --

thought the Lib Dems wanted devolution of power. I tend to

think that when you are sort of looking at all the structures of

democracy you have to weigh up what is more important. I am sure we'll

come on to talk about Abu Qatada. Issues to do with the rule of law,

human rights, introducing a set of elections for something - is that a

priority? I think you have to look at what is more important to thing.

If you sat down and designed democracy you would say you want it

accountable. We are not used to this idea because we have never had

it. It is a good idea. How will we judge the success? Let's take for

granted the turnout was very low. They are in place. How will they

become a success? How will we judge them? If the public in Humberside

or anywhere else feel they have a greater say in how the police

operate because they have an elected Police Commissioner? It if

is a position which proves to be worthy of one of our former Deputy

Prime Ministers, that will tend it up there.

Aaron Heslhurst is not standing! -- - Michael Hesseltine is not

standing! Mr Qatada - not on a plane back to

Jordan - free once again - discuss. I think May may's problem is she

said, in fact there was a big media operation in April, that he would

be gone by the end of the month. Of course the date was wrong, which

allowed him to appeal against the European Court decision. The grand

chamber did not agree with that. That is one hurdle that actually

there was a mistake, but she got away with it. Let's see what she

has done right - she is right to try and get rid of Qatada. I

couldn't do it. There one bit here, the difference between me and ther

reis a is she does not like the European Court of Human Rights. I

think that is a ridiculous position to be in. Article Three says you

shouldn't be tortured. Artle Six says a right to a fair trial, ie,

witnesses against you... So he should not go back? So the court

was right? There are two important things which have happened. The

European Court accepted the memorandum of understanding Jordan

that he would not be tortured. That is Article three out of the way.

That is why Theresa May didn't go to appeal. If you look at the

judgment, they are very clear that in the code that the Jordanian

courts operate through, there is still the need for an amendment to

ensure that witnesses will not have been tortured. This is an

interesting point. It means there's one more thing the Jordanians could

do to put this right. It means there is one thing that was missed

in the negotiations between the Jordanians and the British. I don't

know why that was missing. Should we take pride that our judicial

system is so robust it cannot be bullied by Home Secretaries or

Prime Ministers? Well, as a principal, we should. This is a

really unpleasant case because he's a very unpleasant man who everyone

wants to see gone. You have to, obviously, observe due process and

luckily, as Michael points out and Alan points out, it looks as if

there is a question of Jordanian law which gives some hope. The

question is how long it could take of course. This could go on and on

and on. There was an incredibly moving interview conducted in the

BBC. We know the BBC has screwed up on this, but I get the impression

it is a robust, rude wake-up call for social media as well, Michael?

I think the really important thing is you will not be able to control

what is out there in the social media, but you need to dig a trench,

so the sewerage which is out there does not penetrate the respectable

media, whether the BBC or respectable journalists or Twitter

or blogs. The calamity of the Newsnight case and that of Phillip

Schofield is they allowed it to inspect the social media. That laz

been a tragedy, but the fact it has -- that has been a tragedy, but the

fact it has happened makes us understand we must stop the gossip

and the nonsense getting into respectable media. Thank you. Now,

like any crack military unit we all know our job here on This Week. I

am under orders to pick up the Blue Nun. Alan will pick up the dry

cleaning. Michael is under orders to stop talking to strangers on

trains. What happens when hierarchy goes capoot? Those giving the

orders lose their authority - this week we have ordered the chain of

commander r into the spotlight. -- chain of command into the

spotlight. In the world of rock'n'roll, there

is always a clear pecking order. The front man comes first and the

drummer trails in his wake with the kit and the van. General Petraus

stepped down after an affair. Causing command in control problems

for the Commander-in-Chief.Vy evidence at this point, from what I

have seen that the information was disclosed. In the BBC, military

rigid management style led to chaos at Newsnight. It seemed no-one knew

who was in overall editorial control.Vy To be, as Director-

General, very clear on who is running the news operation and

ensuring that the journalism we put out passes muster. What will happen

now that Police Commissioners have been elected to circumvent the

chain of command and give the public a say over how they are

policed? When it comes to giving orders, is it helpful to have a

specific pecking order, or is it too shackling to work? And that is

how This Week operates - by and large. Huey Morgan, week. You have

been in the US military, you have been in a rock'n'roll band - both

need a clear chain of command, don't they? Absolutely! It is

important that you know where you can go to directly and a lot of

times in situations that we were just watching, there's a kind of am

bigty that no-one really knows where to go and who to talk to and,

obviously the top dog has to take, and sit on the sword. Painful! But

in the rock'n'roll band, why is it always the front man which has the

final say? I never had the final say. In my mu band I have a final

say, it is Huey and the New Yorkers. When I was in the Fun Lovin'

Criminal, there were three of us. used to be a drummer in a band. We

never had any say. Why does the drummer never get a say? Dave

Clarke Five. I think all good creative places that people don't

take sides and things like that. Did the band fall apart, a lot of

bands fall apart when the chain of command fell apart? People didn't

want to put up with...Vy Seen a lot of instances where a band has a

lead singer and they would be the song writer and the producer and

all that stuff. I was lucky enough to have a partner. You could gang

up on other people. We couldn't on the drummer because we were all in

it together. You did gang up on the drummer? He is the drummer in Huey

and the New Yorkers. He is good. When the chain of command is too

complex, that is when things go wrong too. Yes remember when we had

John Sergeant and he was clear Chief, maybe that should change a

bit. This lack of curiousty was explained to me more clearly by

Jonathan anyone else. In a sense, it was a confused chain of command,

because the DG is the Editor in Chief, but he's not meant to get

involved in major editorial decisions. That seemed to be the

problem. We are talking about chain of command too much and not about

leadership enough.Ing Interest. When Margaret Thatcher was Prime

Minister, the chain of command is complicated and that kind of thing.

Everybody from the top to the bottom knew what was the aspiration

of the Government, what was the direction of travel. Every time a

piece of paper was put to a minister, they gave you three

options. They always knew which to choose because there was a

consistency. A party line? Yes, a party line. I don't mo what it was

like under Nelson, but Nelson said to every captain, no captain shall

do ill if he mixes closely with the enemy, if he takes on the enemy.

Absolutely clear instruction. I mention Nelson, because he was not

only in a relationship with a married woman, when he himself was

marriedch he had a child by that woman. Thank God there were no

papers to expose him and he continued to be our Commander-in-

Chief. Was there a pecking order? Yes. There is a kind of pecking

order there, in the sense that the major offices of state, the

Chancellor in particular, you are supposed to be equal. We all get

the same salary, apart from the Prime Minister, but there is a

chain of command there. I agree with Michael, leadership is

important. In fact, I made a speech the other week - when I went to DWP,

they were talking about Michael as employment secretary because he was

clear about what he wanted to do. I think actually Michael, the Civil

Service will respond to that if you show that kind of leadership. Can

we talk about Agent Shirtless by the way? I want to explain this....

If you look at, we were talking about Nelson, there was he who went

on to become the President of the United States.

Television is what it was and there was not bloggers. He didn't get

caught out there. The Petraus scandal is a great that Washington

throws up. We are in the middle of a scandal here. It is hard to keep

tabs on both of them. Isn't there a sense that there is a command of

chain issue there. He was seen both in the military to be at the top of

the chain of command and was respected. So there is a huge sense

of feeling let down by the chain of command. What he did, when this all

came out, was the honourable thing to do, was to step down. I mean,

with... In, obviously the consequences of his actions are yet

to be seen. We don't know what this lady was privy to, but I don't

think it was anything that big. Just made him vulnerable. I am

pretty sure everybody is looking at his e-mail. Are you better at

giving orders or taking them? Taking. Giving. I give orders, but

I take them. I'm married! You should be a politician.

They gave straight answers, you gave the politicians' answer. You

have a new band. Huey and the New Yorkers. I am giving the money

interest my record sales to a veterans' charity. I was a Marine.

These wars have been so long and these guys are coming back and not

being looked after. If I can do any bit to help them, I can. Well done,

Sir. That is it. We are giving Annabelle's a miss tonight. We'll

hit the open road to Hull. Alan has booked the minicab. Charles Clarke

is behind the wheel. We have promised John Prescott we'll be

there in time for breakfast. It is a return faree for Charles. At

least one minister will be quids in tomorrow. We will leave you with a