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Tonight on This Week's Deal Or No Deal... | :00:08. | :00:14. | |
Quentin Letts wonders, can Theresa May pull off a clean Brexit? | :00:15. | :00:18. | |
There, that should add some much-needed clarity. | :00:19. | :00:23. | |
President-elect Donald Trump likes a deal. | :00:24. | :00:24. | |
Distinguished statesman Radoslaw Sikorski thinks | :00:25. | :00:26. | |
the new world order may throw up a few unwelcome surprises. | :00:27. | :00:32. | |
If you want trade wars, Donald Trump, it's no deal. | :00:33. | :00:37. | |
And everyone used to respect the headmaster and top notch | :00:38. | :00:40. | |
I've lost all respect being on this programme. | :00:41. | :00:51. | |
Who will take the megabucks home tonight? | :00:52. | :01:01. | |
In fact, we're best friends, and we must never do | :01:02. | :01:09. | |
anything to upset our long, special friendship. | :01:10. | :01:12. | |
So, as our friend, you will give us everything we ask for, | :01:13. | :01:15. | |
You will give us full and open access to your front room | :01:16. | :01:20. | |
for the next 45 minutes even though we accept no obligation to provide | :01:21. | :01:23. | |
television which informs, educates or entertains. | :01:24. | :01:28. | |
And we reserve the right to rat on you and do | :01:29. | :01:31. | |
As friends, you will of course accept this. | :01:32. | :01:36. | |
Because if you don't, and I say this as a friend, | :01:37. | :01:39. | |
Maggie had Ronnie, Tony had George, Dave had Barack, Michael here has | :01:40. | :01:49. | |
One faces the daunting task of turning a vague, | :01:50. | :01:56. | |
populist fantasy into reality without the world crashing in. | :01:57. | :02:00. | |
The other is the new President of the United States. | :02:01. | :02:04. | |
Tomorrow night he will sit in the Oval Office, | :02:05. | :02:06. | |
changing the nuclear codes to match his Twitter password. | :02:07. | :02:09. | |
And what could possibly go wrong when he leans over to tweet | :02:10. | :02:14. | |
He's promised to do everything he can to create work for people | :02:15. | :02:20. | |
who for too long have been stuck at home with nothing to do, | :02:21. | :02:23. | |
starting with our very own Michael Gove who says | :02:24. | :02:25. | |
Speaking of friends, we're joined tonight by two | :02:26. | :02:31. | |
unemployables unlikely even to benefit from Mr Trump's | :02:32. | :02:33. | |
vow to be the greatest job-creating President ever. | :02:34. | :02:37. | |
I speak, of course, of the main reasons this country is rushing | :02:38. | :02:40. | |
Your moment of the week. You said that Theresa May has Donald Trump | :02:41. | :03:02. | |
but I would question that. My moment was when Donald Trump gave an | :03:03. | :03:06. | |
interview to Michael Gove. You will remember that Theresa May has not | :03:07. | :03:10. | |
met the President-elect, Nigel Farage has met him three times. He | :03:11. | :03:17. | |
has suggested Nigel Farage should be our ambassador. So now he selects | :03:18. | :03:22. | |
Michael Gove, who was in favour of Brexit, who fell out with Boris | :03:23. | :03:27. | |
Johnson. When Boris Johnson was in New York, he did not see Mr Trump. | :03:28. | :03:32. | |
So it looked like he chose a Brexiteer who had been rejected from | :03:33. | :03:35. | |
the government, who had had a big row with Boris Johnson. I think he | :03:36. | :03:40. | |
is trying to tell Theresa May something and if I were her, I would | :03:41. | :03:44. | |
get on with finding someone to be ambassador who has been recruited | :03:45. | :03:47. | |
from outside the Foreign Office and has said nothing unpleasant about | :03:48. | :03:52. | |
Donald Trump in the past. Maybe they will start looking. Your moment? | :03:53. | :03:59. | |
Mine is Donald Trump related. It is the list of the inauguration line-up | :04:00. | :04:05. | |
of acts. It is as if Theresa May had Chas and Dave playing at Number Ten. | :04:06. | :04:11. | |
It is hilarious and woeful. Except that I was in the states when | :04:12. | :04:20. | |
Hillary Clinton had Beyonce and Bon Jovi and Jay Z. All the greatest | :04:21. | :04:31. | |
stars in the right of states, and she lost. I recognise that, I just | :04:32. | :04:40. | |
find a list... And why attack Chas and Dave? They won our Christmas | :04:41. | :04:44. | |
special. We had to give them sandwiches. That is how difficult it | :04:45. | :04:48. | |
was to get them. You give them the moment of the week and they slack | :04:49. | :04:49. | |
you off. Now, the World Economic Forum | :04:50. | :04:53. | |
is hosting its 30th It's a low key affair with fun | :04:54. | :04:55. | |
for the whole family. When they get bored of rubbing | :04:56. | :04:59. | |
shoulders with the likes of Shakira and Matt Damon, | :05:00. | :05:01. | |
heads of state and assorted fat cats can enjoy a refugee simulator | :05:02. | :05:04. | |
in which they crawl on all fours Though I guess | :05:05. | :05:06. | |
President Assad will be Anyways, for the few | :05:07. | :05:10. | |
of you who don't have half a million pounds to throw | :05:11. | :05:13. | |
at a weekend in Switzerland, here's Poland's former foreign | :05:14. | :05:15. | |
minister Radislaw Sikorski Free trade has opened up | :05:16. | :05:17. | |
Europe and the world. But we now have a US President | :05:18. | :05:39. | |
who has promised his supporters to alleviate | :05:40. | :05:42. | |
the downside of globalisation. Mr Trump has said many | :05:43. | :05:49. | |
contradictory things during the US election campaign, | :05:50. | :05:51. | |
but on one thing he has been consistent, his | :05:52. | :05:54. | |
suspicion of free trade. But, at Davos this week, | :05:55. | :06:00. | |
the President of China has said that to cut off flows of people, | :06:01. | :06:03. | |
goods and capital between the economies, | :06:04. | :06:06. | |
is like diverting rivers into lakes. Meanwhile, Britain is leaving | :06:07. | :06:12. | |
the European Union partly on the hope of a quick, | :06:13. | :06:15. | |
free trade deal with But if you thought that the row over | :06:16. | :06:17. | |
bent bananas was ludicrous, wait for the row over | :06:18. | :06:24. | |
US chlorine-soaked chicken. Unless agriculture is excluded | :06:25. | :06:32. | |
from such a free trade deal, British farmers will have to compete | :06:33. | :06:35. | |
with Texan farmers and Prime Minister Theresa May made | :06:36. | :06:37. | |
a speech at Lancaster House this week which was positive in tone | :06:38. | :06:46. | |
but in substance it sketched out The reality is that Britain cannot | :06:47. | :06:50. | |
negotiate a free trade deal with the United States | :06:51. | :07:00. | |
while still remaining a member of the European Union | :07:01. | :07:03. | |
and Britain is not yet a member Protectionism usually | :07:04. | :07:06. | |
provokes a reaction. If President Trump acts on some | :07:07. | :07:16. | |
of his pronouncements, We have seen that movie | :07:17. | :07:17. | |
before in the 1930s. Michael, are we heading for a trade | :07:18. | :07:50. | |
war under Donald Trump? I don't know, but there was a tell-tale | :07:51. | :07:54. | |
phrase in your report which was that we cannot have a free-trade deal | :07:55. | :07:59. | |
while members of the European Union. Quite right, because the European | :08:00. | :08:05. | |
Union is a protectionist block. It it wrecked barriers against the | :08:06. | :08:09. | |
outside world. The only people who are clearly in favour of global free | :08:10. | :08:14. | |
trade are the British. I will let you come back and then I will go to | :08:15. | :08:19. | |
Jess. The external tariff of the European Union is approximately 3%. | :08:20. | :08:24. | |
President Trump is talking about a tariff of 35%, which would actually | :08:25. | :08:29. | |
be illegal under the existing treaties. The European external | :08:30. | :08:37. | |
tariff on dairy products, on 54 different dairy products is 75%. | :08:38. | :08:41. | |
Agriculture is protected everywhere which is wide that Doha round failed | :08:42. | :08:47. | |
and it will be difficult to negotiate the deal with the United | :08:48. | :08:51. | |
States. You cannot simultaneously argue on the one hand that the | :08:52. | :08:55. | |
external tariff of the European Union is very very low and also to | :08:56. | :09:01. | |
say that it would be a calamity if Britain finds itself facing this | :09:02. | :09:05. | |
external tariff. It is either very low, or it isn't. If it is very low, | :09:06. | :09:09. | |
it doesn't matter whether Britain faces this low tariff or not. I | :09:10. | :09:16. | |
think that Britain is embarking on an interesting experiment. That is | :09:17. | :09:22. | |
understatement. If it works, we will all be following you. Do you feel we | :09:23. | :09:28. | |
are heading for a trade war? It is difficult to say but I don't think | :09:29. | :09:33. | |
that Donald Trump... His whole platform that he stood on during the | :09:34. | :09:37. | |
election was a 0-sum game where all trade deals were bad for America at | :09:38. | :09:41. | |
the moment and the only thing he is going to look for his good things | :09:42. | :09:47. | |
for American trade. That is what a President would do, a British Prime | :09:48. | :09:51. | |
Minister would say the same. Every country wants a decent trade deal | :09:52. | :09:56. | |
for themselves. That is why you have negotiations. He was suggesting | :09:57. | :10:01. | |
every trade deal is currently bad for the US so he would renegotiate | :10:02. | :10:04. | |
everything. That is totally unrealistic. Did you tell me the | :10:05. | :10:11. | |
President of China has been in Davos arguing for free trade, the | :10:12. | :10:15. | |
President of China whose country has systematically manipulated its | :10:16. | :10:17. | |
currency to have an unfair advantage in trade? China daily today | :10:18. | :10:24. | |
described the President of China as the general secretary now of | :10:25. | :10:28. | |
globalisation and free trade. Do we need lectures from the Chinese on | :10:29. | :10:34. | |
this? Since they joined the WTO in 2001 they have consistently broken | :10:35. | :10:39. | |
its rules on protectionism. As I understand, they are now trying to | :10:40. | :10:44. | |
prop up the currency, and certainly hundreds of millions of people in | :10:45. | :10:47. | |
China have benefited from global trade, just as Mexico has, and | :10:48. | :10:53. | |
thereby the migration from Mexico to the United States has dropped. Lots | :10:54. | :10:58. | |
of blue-collar workers, and this partly explains Brexit and Mr Trump, | :10:59. | :11:03. | |
because of the huge ramping up of Chinese productive capacity and then | :11:04. | :11:08. | |
in many cases the dumping of the low cost of products, including steel, | :11:09. | :11:12. | |
has cost many blue-collar workers in Europe and America their jobs. | :11:13. | :11:17. | |
Economists arguing to what extent it is trade and to what extent | :11:18. | :11:23. | |
automation. There is one free-trade deal that Mr Trump things would be | :11:24. | :11:27. | |
good and that is with Britain. If America was to offer Britain a | :11:28. | :11:34. | |
free-trade deal, why would we not do it? Already, he said we were at the | :11:35. | :11:38. | |
front of the queue and then, isn't it Mexico and Canada have jumped the | :11:39. | :11:44. | |
queue now? He has free-trade deals with them already and does not like | :11:45. | :11:47. | |
them. Why wouldn't we do a free-trade deal with America? | :11:48. | :11:54. | |
Hitherto, for the last few decades, Britain was negotiating with the | :11:55. | :11:58. | |
negotiating strength of the largest economy on earth, the European | :11:59. | :12:03. | |
Union. Now you will be negotiating with two giants, the United States | :12:04. | :12:07. | |
and the European Union. I am not sure you're negotiating position | :12:08. | :12:11. | |
will be stronger. But if Australia can do a free-trade deal with | :12:12. | :12:15. | |
America to its advantage, why couldn't we? The mutual recognition | :12:16. | :12:21. | |
of standards, which is being proposed, is going to be | :12:22. | :12:26. | |
controversial. Do you really want GM ohs, do you really want... You think | :12:27. | :12:32. | |
our economic future should be determined by whether we can buy | :12:33. | :12:37. | |
chlorinated chicken? I think the dispute over Bent bananas will be a | :12:38. | :12:43. | |
small thing by comparison. One of the releases I'm looking forward to | :12:44. | :12:46. | |
is being released from this nonsense about genetically modified food | :12:47. | :12:52. | |
products. You are all for them? I certainly am. Is the EU is so weak | :12:53. | :12:58. | |
it is to give Britain a punishment beating to stop others rushing to | :12:59. | :13:03. | |
the door? We will wait and see. It is difficult to say at the moment. | :13:04. | :13:08. | |
Theresa May has played a strong hand this week and made it seem, only in | :13:09. | :13:12. | |
the UK, not in Europe, that we have real strength and we will give you, | :13:13. | :13:17. | |
if you give us a beating we will be really tough. But it is still just | :13:18. | :13:23. | |
all, clouds that mean nothing, that evaporate when you touch them. I | :13:24. | :13:27. | |
don't feel they are weak and we are strong. | :13:28. | :13:30. | |
Is the threat to walk away which Mrs May said in her speech on Tuesday, | :13:31. | :13:39. | |
that no deal is better than a bad deal? Yes. We have touched upon the | :13:40. | :13:43. | |
external tariff of the European Union. In the moments after the June | :13:44. | :13:48. | |
23rd vote, sterling fell against the euro by about 10%. We are talking | :13:49. | :13:54. | |
about external tariffs of 3 and 4% so we already have a bigger | :13:55. | :13:59. | |
advantage than the external tariff. She's played it cleverly because she | :14:00. | :14:03. | |
said we are leaving the single market, we'll probably not be in the | :14:04. | :14:07. | |
customs union either. A decision is required by the European Union at | :14:08. | :14:10. | |
that point, whether to impose tariffs on their goods coming to us | :14:11. | :14:13. | |
and ours going to them. I think it's going to be quite a difficult | :14:14. | :14:20. | |
political sell for Poland and certainly Germany and France. Why? | :14:21. | :14:24. | |
To tell people, we are going to destroy your jobs by making it more | :14:25. | :14:27. | |
difficult for you to export cars to the UK, more difficult to export... | :14:28. | :14:31. | |
No, they are just going to say, we are going to take, you know, the car | :14:32. | :14:35. | |
manufacturing that currently exists where I live and put it in Poland, | :14:36. | :14:39. | |
make Poland great again. So where are the car plants going to come | :14:40. | :14:44. | |
from? They'll... They are going to move Jaguar to Poland? Definitely | :14:45. | :14:51. | |
not. I'm not Len McCluskey. But why wouldn't they buy their car parts | :14:52. | :14:55. | |
and bits and pieces where they don't have to take their lorries through | :14:56. | :14:58. | |
borders, they don't have to have red tape? It's like the Conservatives | :14:59. | :15:02. | |
are arguing for red tape which is so weird. No, no, what I'm saying is | :15:03. | :15:07. | |
that the European Union has to take a deliberate policy of retribution | :15:08. | :15:11. | |
against... No, the European Union doesn't need to do anything. Britain | :15:12. | :15:14. | |
will put itself outside of the customs area. That means the | :15:15. | :15:20. | |
external tariff will apply without the EU doing anything. You are | :15:21. | :15:23. | |
resigning from the club and you will be treated as a member of the | :15:24. | :15:29. | |
public. But my favourite threat is, if the EU doesn't do what we say, | :15:30. | :15:38. | |
we'll lower corporation tax. Guess what, corporation tax in Ireland, | :15:39. | :15:42. | |
Cyprus, is 12.5%, in Hungary it's 9%. You can lower your corporation | :15:43. | :15:45. | |
tax without leaving the European Union. Indeed. Though the commission | :15:46. | :15:52. | |
hates it when you do it. OK. The Irish have been lent on to raise it. | :15:53. | :15:56. | |
There are increasing protectionist forces in Europe. We'll see that in | :15:57. | :16:01. | |
the elections in Holland, France and in Austria, perhaps also in Italy as | :16:02. | :16:05. | |
well. So why shouldn't the UK strike out to the rest of the world to do | :16:06. | :16:11. | |
deals if Europe is becoming more protectionist? It's illegal to | :16:12. | :16:19. | |
become protectionist inside the European Union. What you mean by | :16:20. | :16:22. | |
that is that there are stronger pressures to limit the free movement | :16:23. | :16:32. | |
of people. But... But also they can do trade deals. We have done one | :16:33. | :16:37. | |
with Canada but it takes a long time to do them. Ukraine is similar to | :16:38. | :16:46. | |
what Britain will eventually want, a sector by sector compromise. That | :16:47. | :16:50. | |
took seven years. It's a complicated thing to do. Two years to implement. | :16:51. | :16:55. | |
It's difficult. But there is one more area where I think people in | :16:56. | :17:05. | |
Britain need to be clear about, name under existing rules, EU citizens | :17:06. | :17:08. | |
can only reside in other member states like Britain for three | :17:09. | :17:12. | |
months. After three months, if they are a burden on the public | :17:13. | :17:16. | |
Exchequer, you can actually move people out. You and I both know | :17:17. | :17:22. | |
that's not going to happen. But you could have acted on it. Hold on, Mrs | :17:23. | :17:29. | |
May offered Mrs Merkel a deal to take EU citizens in this country a | :17:30. | :17:35. | |
UK... You are talking at crossed purposes. If he's saying if people | :17:36. | :17:39. | |
are already on the public purse you can move them out. May I make a | :17:40. | :17:44. | |
broad point on freedom of movement of people. It's alleged this is | :17:45. | :17:48. | |
fundamental of the creation of the single market. Of course it isn't. | :17:49. | :17:51. | |
You could have a single market without the free movement of people. | :17:52. | :17:54. | |
The reason there is the free movement of people in the European | :17:55. | :17:57. | |
Union is the same reason there is a Single Currency because these are | :17:58. | :18:00. | |
attributes of a single nation state because it's the aspiration of the | :18:01. | :18:03. | |
European Union to become a single nation state. That is our | :18:04. | :18:07. | |
fundamental problem with the whole thing. In the words of a British | :18:08. | :18:12. | |
Prime Minister, "not a super state but a super power". We are going to | :18:13. | :18:16. | |
leave it there. We have overran because it's an interesting | :18:17. | :18:18. | |
discussion. Thank you for being with us. | :18:19. | :18:20. | |
Now it's late, change the White House wifi password late, | :18:21. | :18:22. | |
as President Obama hides fake spiders and stink bombs | :18:23. | :18:25. | |
But we're on the edge of our seat for Trump's inaugural shindig. | :18:26. | :18:31. | |
Poor Donald has had a rough old time booking performers for the party, | :18:32. | :18:34. | |
disrespected by the jealous losers of Hollywood. | :18:35. | :18:36. | |
Dry your tears Mr President-elect because, waiting in the wings | :18:37. | :18:39. | |
to straighten up the bullies, is headmaster and historian | :18:40. | :18:43. | |
Anthony Seldon, putting respect in our spotlight. | :18:44. | :18:46. | |
There will be strictly no mobile phones allowed in class, | :18:47. | :18:50. | |
not to mention Facebanter, Twitteasing, Snapchithcat or we'll | :18:51. | :18:54. | |
Now, our friends at London's top museums have been in touch, | :18:55. | :19:01. | |
asking Labour MPs to please stop sending over their CVs for every job | :19:02. | :19:04. | |
John McDonnell's application for the Bank of England Museum | :19:05. | :19:11. | |
job has been rejected - I think we can work out why. | :19:12. | :19:15. | |
But we can't fathom why our very own Jess Phillips has been turned | :19:16. | :19:18. | |
down as curator of the Civil War Museum. | :19:19. | :19:21. | |
But the National Maritime Museum is keen to interview any Labour MP | :19:22. | :19:24. | |
looking for a new start in life since they all have plenty | :19:25. | :19:28. | |
Here with a career change of his own, Quentin Letts | :19:29. | :19:34. | |
with the political round up of the week. | :19:35. | :19:43. | |
Well, they said they wanted a clean Brexit. | :19:44. | :19:54. | |
# I'll polish the leaves, make them green again | :19:55. | :20:00. | |
# Shake out the trees, change the scene again | :20:01. | :20:03. | |
# Spring cleaning, getting ready for love.# | :20:04. | :20:07. | |
Still, they were very clear, they wanted a clean Brexit. | :20:08. | :20:15. | |
Both sides in the referendum campaign made it clear that a vote | :20:16. | :20:29. | |
to leave the EU would be a vote to leave the single market. | :20:30. | :20:32. | |
So we do not seek membership of the single market. | :20:33. | :20:35. | |
Instead, we seek the greatest possible access to it. | :20:36. | :20:39. | |
I can confirm today that the government will put | :20:40. | :20:43. | |
the final deal that is agreed between the UK and the EU to a vote | :20:44. | :20:49. | |
The business community welcomed the clarity from the PM. | :20:50. | :20:53. | |
And some bloke called Boris Johnson was tweeting videos about it. | :20:54. | :21:01. | |
I've just been listening to Theresa May's fantastic speech | :21:02. | :21:06. | |
about global Britain and about how we're going to take back control | :21:07. | :21:10. | |
of our borders and loads of money that we currently send to the EU. | :21:11. | :21:13. | |
But also, of course, come out of the EU's legal system, | :21:14. | :21:16. | |
the single market, but not leave Europe. | :21:17. | :21:20. | |
Also cheering was a vindicated Nigel Farage. | :21:21. | :21:25. | |
Best not to mention that it leaves his party | :21:26. | :21:29. | |
We are leaving the single market, even if Nick Clegg is crying | :21:30. | :21:38. | |
But not everyone was so gracious in hard Brexit. | :21:39. | :21:49. | |
Oh, there's Mr Clegg, off to drown his sorrows and stockpile | :21:50. | :21:51. | |
What she's done is taken the views of 51.9% of the people who voted | :21:52. | :22:02. | |
to leave the European Union last June and assume they all meant | :22:03. | :22:05. | |
the same as Nigel Farage, and assume they wanted an extreme | :22:06. | :22:08. | |
Brexit that was not on the ballot paper. | :22:09. | :22:10. | |
Jeremy Corbyn went on Brexit at PMQs, the Labour leader railing | :22:11. | :22:24. | |
against the idea of a bargain Brexit. | :22:25. | :22:27. | |
"She has said that leave the single market, but at the same time says | :22:28. | :23:06. | |
she wants to have access to the single market. | :23:07. | :23:09. | |
I'm not quite sure how that's going to go down in Europe. | :23:10. | :23:12. | |
I think we have to have a deal that ensures we have | :23:13. | :23:17. | |
Oh, well, someone had to make up the numbers, I suppose. | :23:18. | :23:38. | |
Oh, dear, it looks like they preloaded. | :23:39. | :23:44. | |
I hope they don't do anything embarrassing when they meet | :23:45. | :23:48. | |
# Cos you and I have a rendezvous under the sky | :23:49. | :23:53. | |
# Spring cleaning, getting ready for love.# | :23:54. | :24:01. | |
Michael Gove met Donald Trump in New York this week and the former | :24:02. | :24:04. | |
Justice Secretary just about maintained his composure, | :24:05. | :24:07. | |
and Mr Trump congratulated Mr Gove on Brexit. | :24:08. | :24:11. | |
Some of these books have got pages missing. | :24:12. | :24:18. | |
I thought the UK was so smart in getting out. | :24:19. | :24:22. | |
And you were there, and you guys wrote it, | :24:23. | :24:24. | |
If they hadn't been forced to take in all of the refugees, so many, | :24:25. | :24:35. | |
with all the problems that entails, I think that you wouldn't | :24:36. | :24:38. | |
The refugees issue has damaged Angela Merkel and threatens | :24:39. | :24:48. | |
Mutti Merkel was her normal, cheerful self. | :24:49. | :24:55. | |
TRANSLATION: There can be no cherrypicking during negotiations | :24:56. | :24:58. | |
Otherwise we might end up with some who might find it more attractive | :24:59. | :25:05. | |
For the SNP, hard Brexit is another chance to call for independence. | :25:06. | :25:12. | |
Do we want to be taken down a path that we didn't vote | :25:13. | :25:23. | |
for and is against all of our interests, or do we want to take | :25:24. | :25:27. | |
And that is a choice that I think Scotland has the right to make. | :25:28. | :25:31. | |
Could hard Brexit mean a hard border with the Republic? | :25:32. | :25:38. | |
Maybe see what this lot have been watching on telly. | :25:39. | :25:56. | |
There's a nice Andrew Neil programme later on in the evening | :25:57. | :25:59. | |
where he invites people on a very tight sofa, as I recall. | :26:00. | :26:02. | |
It was a good programme and Andrew Neil held the chair well. | :26:03. | :26:07. | |
Disconcerting that the chairman of the BBC speaks about us in the past | :26:08. | :26:33. | |
tense! Thanks to Samir and Belkis | :26:34. | :26:35. | |
at Juniper TV for allowing us to employ the services of a somewhat | :26:36. | :26:38. | |
second rate cleaner. SNP superstar John Nicholson, | :26:39. | :26:47. | |
welcome back to our programme. Thank you, Andrew. The consensus is that | :26:48. | :26:52. | |
Theresa May had a good week this week, is that right? Yes. In fact, I | :26:53. | :26:57. | |
think the speech was largely statements of the obvious and these | :26:58. | :27:00. | |
things could have been deduced some time ago. But she had been so silent | :27:01. | :27:08. | |
on the question and had given an impression of being indecisive. So | :27:09. | :27:11. | |
when she said these things categorically, and I must say | :27:12. | :27:15. | |
neatly, she said them well. There was a terrific reaction to it. Jess? | :27:16. | :27:22. | |
I think it was clear. I agree entirely with Michael, it was a | :27:23. | :27:25. | |
statement of the bleeding obvious. But for her to say that we wouldn't | :27:26. | :27:29. | |
be members of the single market, although you could deduce that from | :27:30. | :27:32. | |
other things that were said, for her to say it though to get it on the | :27:33. | :27:40. | |
record, it was quite a step forward? Not a step backwards, well depending | :27:41. | :27:44. | |
on your opinion. She did two bold things. Before Christmas we had the | :27:45. | :27:49. | |
vote on the principle of the triggering of article 50 which she | :27:50. | :27:52. | |
won with a tremendous majority. Now this bold speech has gone well. So I | :27:53. | :27:57. | |
hope she's encouraged to carry on being bold. What do you think? A | :27:58. | :28:01. | |
Labour MP told me she was in tears listening to the speech because she | :28:02. | :28:06. | |
thought to herself, this means the end of the union. Does it? Well, I | :28:07. | :28:13. | |
thought it was disrespectful for Theresa May to give the speech in | :28:14. | :28:17. | |
the way she did because she'd said very clearly that Scotland's voice | :28:18. | :28:28. | |
had to be heard. The Joint Committee was due to meet after the speech. | :28:29. | :28:32. | |
The Scottish Parliament put forward its proposals and Mrs May said | :28:33. | :28:35. | |
repeatedly, we'll listen to Scotland's point of view, it's an | :28:36. | :28:40. | |
equal partner, then she announces very dramatically the future of | :28:41. | :28:43. | |
Scotland in Europe without actually talking to the Scottish ministers at | :28:44. | :28:50. | |
all. I'm surpriseth rised she didn't go through the motions. -- | :28:51. | :28:56. | |
surprised. Is it clear Labour doesn't have a Brexit strategy? | :28:57. | :29:01. | |
Clear in the same sentence, it's fair to say it's not all that clear. | :29:02. | :29:10. | |
But it's incredibly difficult is the honest answer. The honest truth is | :29:11. | :29:15. | |
that there are swathes of Labour seats that voted for Brexit, yet two | :29:16. | :29:20. | |
thirds of Labour voters apparently, however they deduce these things | :29:21. | :29:25. | |
from the polls, voted to remain. Then there are huge areas of Labour | :29:26. | :29:30. | |
vote where people are not just rep Remain, but vehemently Remain. So | :29:31. | :29:37. | |
there is, I get it both barrels from all angles regardless of people's | :29:38. | :29:41. | |
opinion so I could sit here all day and say it should have been clearer, | :29:42. | :29:46. | |
but it's incredibly difficult. Incredibly complex. One of my | :29:47. | :29:51. | |
abiding memories as an MP is being in the lobby and watching Labour MPs | :29:52. | :29:58. | |
berating Gisela Stuart in the aftermath of the referendum result | :29:59. | :30:02. | |
with a rage that I have never seen in Parliament since I came to | :30:03. | :30:04. | |
Parliament. They have changed their choosing. On | :30:05. | :30:15. | |
this so far, they say, we respect the decision of the British people. | :30:16. | :30:21. | |
And it is going to be a three line whip. Votes on austerity do not get | :30:22. | :30:28. | |
that, but this does. I read the headline, and then when I read it, | :30:29. | :30:31. | |
Jeremy Corbyn had just said, we will ask them. I had people getting in | :30:32. | :30:37. | |
touch saying, I am leaving the Labour Party. Assuming after the | :30:38. | :30:41. | |
Supreme Court ruling that we seem to think the judges will uphold the | :30:42. | :30:46. | |
High Court ruling, if that is the case, the SNP will vote against | :30:47. | :30:52. | |
triggering Article 50, right? We have not met to decide that but it | :30:53. | :30:56. | |
is my assumption that we would because Scotland voted to stay, so I | :30:57. | :30:59. | |
think we should reflect the wishes of our electorate. Given that, | :31:00. | :31:05. | |
particularly if there is a three line whip, it gets through | :31:06. | :31:09. | |
Parliament, doesn't it? Of course, under those circumstances. So I | :31:10. | :31:15. | |
would hope and ask that as many MPs as possible from the Labour Party | :31:16. | :31:21. | |
develop a backbone over this. You said you will represent your | :31:22. | :31:26. | |
electorate. 67% of my constituents voted to leave. So... Does Ukip have | :31:27. | :31:34. | |
a future? If Mrs May is seen to be the hard Brexit, what is the point | :31:35. | :31:39. | |
of Ukip? Ukip's best hope was that by the time of the next election | :31:40. | :31:45. | |
this would still be up in the air. The decision by the British people | :31:46. | :31:49. | |
which had not been delivered. It is still possible to imagine | :31:50. | :31:53. | |
circumstances in which that might happen, but clearly, Mrs May has | :31:54. | :31:58. | |
smelt the danger, sensed the danger, and made a move which makes life | :31:59. | :32:03. | |
very difficult for Ukip. At the moment, I would say the combination | :32:04. | :32:07. | |
of the new leader and the fact that wrecks it appears to be proceeding | :32:08. | :32:10. | |
apace makes the outlook for Ukip poor. -- Brexit. The Scottish First | :32:11. | :32:20. | |
Minister has ruled out a referendum for this year. Is it your view that | :32:21. | :32:24. | |
if there is to be a second referendum, does it have to come | :32:25. | :32:30. | |
before the UK believes the EU? Does it have to come in the window | :32:31. | :32:37. | |
between the beginning of 2018, and probably March 2019? If there is | :32:38. | :32:40. | |
going to be a second one, is that when it has to be? I don't get a | :32:41. | :32:45. | |
sense that people have an understanding of what Brexit means | :32:46. | :32:49. | |
for them. They have found so far that there laptop has gone up in | :32:50. | :32:56. | |
price. We have not got too much time, I just want to know if that is | :32:57. | :33:01. | |
the window. We need to see what the deal is on the table. When will the | :33:02. | :33:07. | |
third referendum be? Presumably you will hold them continuously until | :33:08. | :33:12. | |
you get the right answer. I always took the view that on balance the | :33:13. | :33:15. | |
first referendum would be lost. I think the second will be one. I | :33:16. | :33:22. | |
remember that the SNP ran on a manifesto last year that said if | :33:23. | :33:26. | |
there is a material change in circumstance, we reserve the right | :33:27. | :33:31. | |
to hold a second referendum. Clearly, being put out of the EU is | :33:32. | :33:35. | |
a material change. So when is the third one? We do not even know when | :33:36. | :33:42. | |
the second one is. Let me come onto the inauguration, the global story. | :33:43. | :33:49. | |
Let me point out something that could never have been said before. | :33:50. | :33:53. | |
There is now a Eurosceptic moving into the Oval Office. There is now | :33:54. | :33:58. | |
somebody who backs Brexit moving into the Oval Office, someone who | :33:59. | :34:04. | |
has no interest in EU integration, indeed, I think would not mind if it | :34:05. | :34:10. | |
unravelled. It totally changes state Department policy for the past 50 | :34:11. | :34:15. | |
is. This is a watershed in Britain and Europe's relationship with the | :34:16. | :34:20. | |
United States. Yes, assuming he can carry that through the ranks of the | :34:21. | :34:24. | |
State Department, absolutely. I found it so frustrating as Defence | :34:25. | :34:28. | |
Secretary watching the efforts of the French to ease the Americans out | :34:29. | :34:34. | |
of Europe, to create a European defence identity to supplant Nato, | :34:35. | :34:39. | |
although extremely ineffectively. I was frustrated that the Americans | :34:40. | :34:43. | |
could not see the danger posed to our joint security by the | :34:44. | :34:47. | |
arrangements that were, that the European Union as spy at to make. I | :34:48. | :34:52. | |
am pleased now to have a more realistic President. It is quite a | :34:53. | :34:58. | |
watershed. That is the first time I have heard the words "Realistic" and | :34:59. | :35:05. | |
"Trump" in the same sentence. It is an enormous change. I mean for | :35:06. | :35:13. | |
Britain, to have a Eurosceptic, pro-Brexit, that would never have | :35:14. | :35:16. | |
happened under any other President. It is an enormous turnaround. We | :35:17. | :35:23. | |
have not had the opportunity to decide what is the difference | :35:24. | :35:27. | |
between his rhetoric and the reality. How will he perform as a | :35:28. | :35:32. | |
President? It was interesting when Michael Gove asked him whether | :35:33. | :35:35. | |
Britain was at the front of the queue and was desperate to get that | :35:36. | :35:41. | |
answer. His answer was, you are doing great. What does that mean? | :35:42. | :35:49. | |
Final thoughts. All over Europe, Theresa May is being pictured next | :35:50. | :35:53. | |
to Donald Trump in cartoons as if they are in it together and a lack | :35:54. | :35:58. | |
of global vision, tiny minded, small island... I thought Mrs May's speech | :35:59. | :36:04. | |
to Davos yesterday and on Tuesday morning was all about going into the | :36:05. | :36:11. | |
world, global vision. Just because she is saying, I like the world... | :36:12. | :36:18. | |
There are 12 countries Liam Fox is talking to about free trade. Why is | :36:19. | :36:24. | |
that not going into the world? Because it is meaningless while we | :36:25. | :36:30. | |
do not know what we will end up with with the European Union. Donald | :36:31. | :36:34. | |
Trump, I suppose, has come at a good time, while we are looking for | :36:35. | :36:38. | |
people who also do not like Europe to hang out with. We can hang out | :36:39. | :36:43. | |
with him. I think that Jess is labouring under the illusion that | :36:44. | :36:47. | |
the European Union is a free trade organisation. It is a protectionist | :36:48. | :36:51. | |
organisation. We have come full circle and I will move on. Thank | :36:52. | :36:52. | |
you. Now, I have to interrupt | :36:53. | :36:55. | |
proceedings to issue an apology With the greatest respect, | :36:56. | :36:58. | |
we no longer want full membership of your exclusive nightclub, | :36:59. | :37:01. | |
just the greatest possible access. Michael just doesn't | :37:02. | :37:04. | |
understand why you won't give And why can't Jess hear a British | :37:05. | :37:06. | |
accent when she's in the courtyard I hope you're sensible enough | :37:07. | :37:10. | |
to allow us free entry whenever we feel like it and without regard | :37:11. | :37:14. | |
to club rules. But if you're going to be | :37:15. | :37:16. | |
unreasonable, well, we'll respectfully have | :37:17. | :37:18. | |
to open our own club where we'll sell bootleg Blue Nun and bargain | :37:19. | :37:20. | |
basement Mini Cheddars Prime Minister Theresa May was full | :37:21. | :37:22. | |
of respect for her European friends when outlining her divorce | :37:23. | :37:43. | |
terms on Monday. I respect the position taken | :37:44. | :37:44. | |
by European leaders. We not only respect that | :37:45. | :37:46. | |
fact, but support it. Boris Johnson appeared to compare | :37:47. | :37:56. | |
Anglo-French relations to life Has he lost the esteem | :37:57. | :37:58. | |
of his parliamentary It is amazing, isn't it, | :37:59. | :38:05. | |
that this guy is in charge of the Foreign Office, | :38:06. | :38:08. | |
our great Foreign Office? He doesn't seem to be learning any | :38:09. | :38:10. | |
of the lessons of diplomacy. Should this man really be at the top | :38:11. | :38:13. | |
of our foreign relations? Any senior politician, | :38:14. | :38:16. | |
just don't mention the war. Meanwhile, Barack Obama | :38:17. | :38:19. | |
was keen to show his respect for the White House press pack, | :38:20. | :38:25. | |
a week after his successor I want to thank you all | :38:26. | :38:28. | |
for your extraordinary service to our democracy, | :38:29. | :38:33. | |
and with that, I will In Davos, Xi Jinping, | :38:34. | :38:35. | |
Communist China's authoritarian president, called on leaders | :38:36. | :38:46. | |
of liberal democracies TRANSLATION: We must remain | :38:47. | :38:49. | |
committed to developing free Public school don and historian | :38:50. | :38:55. | |
Anthony Seldon knows all about character, | :38:56. | :39:02. | |
so how important is respect And Anthony Seldon joins us now. | :39:03. | :39:22. | |
Thank you for being with us. Is our respect for each other in general, | :39:23. | :39:28. | |
is it in decline? It's very hard to say. We can say that it's a really | :39:29. | :39:33. | |
important commodity in society, it's what makes a good or just society. | :39:34. | :39:40. | |
If we don't have that sense of wanting to support each other, | :39:41. | :39:42. | |
understand each other, if we are just going to be blanking each other | :39:43. | :39:46. | |
out, denigrating each other, humiliating each other, then we | :39:47. | :39:51. | |
don't have the basis for what, throughout history, has made good | :39:52. | :39:55. | |
societies. And we should be teaching it in schools all the way through. | :39:56. | :39:59. | |
We don't do enough of that in schools? We have a crazy school | :40:00. | :40:07. | |
system. We focus just on exams, a single person, cramming their head | :40:08. | :40:11. | |
with information, spitting it out, passive knowledge, regurgitating it | :40:12. | :40:15. | |
in exams. This has nothing to do with preparing people for life, for | :40:16. | :40:19. | |
life in society, for building good building blocks for our communities, | :40:20. | :40:25. | |
has nothing to do with building families, nothing to do with even | :40:26. | :40:30. | |
jobs, you know. Nobody in a job, as it struck anybody in government, | :40:31. | :40:34. | |
sits on their own and answers essay questions. They work together, | :40:35. | :40:39. | |
thinking. We need to develop entrepreneurship, active learning | :40:40. | :40:46. | |
and decent values. Have we become a less respectful society? I'm not | :40:47. | :40:51. | |
sure that we have. You hear statistics about elderly people | :40:52. | :40:55. | |
being more lonely and people not to visiting their grandparents any more | :40:56. | :40:59. | |
and things like that. I can't say I notice on the street that young | :41:00. | :41:02. | |
people are disrespecting any more than... Obviously, I am a bit | :41:03. | :41:08. | |
younger than the other people here, so maybe it's not in my lifetime | :41:09. | :41:15. | |
that it's gone downhill. Obviously, you are only marginally older. I am | :41:16. | :41:19. | |
surprised Anthony launched that critique of education with all the | :41:20. | :41:24. | |
focus on exams. One of the things that characterises education is | :41:25. | :41:28. | |
respect for teachers. That is an enormous driver, one of the triptych | :41:29. | :41:32. | |
things that comes out of education. If teachers do not hold the respect | :41:33. | :41:37. | |
of their pupils, you have a problem. I assume that at the schools where | :41:38. | :41:41. | |
you were headmaster, respect was substantial. I am still in touch | :41:42. | :41:45. | |
with my headmaster. Imagine how old he is, given how old you think I am. | :41:46. | :41:52. | |
Good old Harrow County, which has helped to make you what you are. We | :41:53. | :41:57. | |
are affected by the family, the groups around us. Schools and exams | :41:58. | :42:03. | |
are important. The problem is we thought exams and Ofsted report 's | :42:04. | :42:06. | |
were all that matters in schools. Actually, it is about building... I | :42:07. | :42:15. | |
think the referendum showed that people still respect Parliament. | :42:16. | :42:18. | |
British people thought, here is something that we value, we think | :42:19. | :42:22. | |
should be put in the prime position. We understand it. The British people | :42:23. | :42:28. | |
are good at changing Parliament. We go from massive Labour majorities to | :42:29. | :42:32. | |
annihilating the Labour Party. We support the Liberal Democrats, then | :42:33. | :42:36. | |
we annihilate them. The British people have control of it, and | :42:37. | :42:40. | |
therefore they respect it. This is certainly true. Such a narrow | :42:41. | :42:47. | |
margin, 48-52. I was for Remainer, but we lost, and let's make the most | :42:48. | :42:51. | |
of it. That is what the vast majority have accepted. There is | :42:52. | :42:59. | |
great respect for parliamentarians. Is there? Is it healthy that we seem | :43:00. | :43:04. | |
to have lost respect for a lot of institutions? We should be critical. | :43:05. | :43:08. | |
A lot of great education in schools is about teaching scepticism, not | :43:09. | :43:12. | |
just to accept authority because it is authority. We are a democracy and | :43:13. | :43:17. | |
we should be critical and form our own judgments. And you can show too | :43:18. | :43:23. | |
much respect. In Davos this week, the Davos elite showed too much | :43:24. | :43:27. | |
respect to the President of China, not raising the issues they should | :43:28. | :43:33. | |
have done with him. We should always challenge people. People worthy of | :43:34. | :43:38. | |
respect deserve our respect. We should not respect people who do not | :43:39. | :43:41. | |
respect us, themselves or other people. I think respect is not an | :43:42. | :43:46. | |
absolute, it is a qualified and it should be there, but it is able then | :43:47. | :43:51. | |
block of society. What are the chances we will come to respect | :43:52. | :43:57. | |
Donald Trump. None. I will never respect anyone like that. You have | :43:58. | :44:02. | |
to respect the office, and the majority of Americans will continue | :44:03. | :44:07. | |
to respect the office. He is head of state and of government. He has a | :44:08. | :44:13. | |
chance, if he respect men and women, he will get there. I have two | :44:14. | :44:17. | |
respect the schedule. We have run out of time. | :44:18. | :44:19. | |
That's your lot for tonight folks, but not for us, we're off | :44:20. | :44:22. | |
to LouLou's for Joe Biden's end of the world survivalist jamboree. | :44:23. | :44:25. | |
Free nuclear bunkers and cyanide pills for everyone! | :44:26. | :44:27. | |
Joe has put together the line-up of a lifetime - | :44:28. | :44:29. | |
Beyonce, Adele, Elvis, Queen and even the Beatles | :44:30. | :44:31. | |
But perhaps not quite as much as what's happening | :44:32. | :44:36. | |
Nighty night, don't let the 45th President of the United States bite. | :44:37. | :44:46. | |
And I don't care, frankly, if it's going to be beautiful | :44:47. | :44:55. | |
I have a feeling it's going to be beautiful. | :44:56. | :45:01. | |
Because what we've done is so special. | :45:02. | :45:04. | |
All over the world they are talking about it. | :45:05. | :45:07. | |
And we are going to make America great again. | :45:08. | :45:15. | |
Thank you very much and enjoy the fireworks. | :45:16. | :45:37. | |
That I will faithfully execute the Office... | :45:38. | :45:41. | |
And will to the best of my ability... | :45:42. | :45:45. | |
The Constitution of the United States... | :45:46. | :45:57. | |
Why would James Delaney hate the India so? | :45:58. | :46:02. |