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19/01/2017

Andrew Neil is joined by Michael Portillo, Jess Phillips and John Nicolson to review the political week, with a film from Quentin Letts.


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Tonight on This Week's Deal Or No Deal...

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Quentin Letts wonders, can Theresa May pull off a clean Brexit?

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There, that should add some much-needed clarity.

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President-elect Donald Trump likes a deal.

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Distinguished statesman Radoslaw Sikorski thinks

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the new world order may throw up a few unwelcome surprises.

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If you want trade wars, Donald Trump, it's no deal.

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And everyone used to respect the headmaster and top notch

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I've lost all respect being on this programme.

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Who will take the megabucks home tonight?

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In fact, we're best friends, and we must never do

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anything to upset our long, special friendship.

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So, as our friend, you will give us everything we ask for,

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You will give us full and open access to your front room

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for the next 45 minutes even though we accept no obligation to provide

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television which informs, educates or entertains.

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And we reserve the right to rat on you and do

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As friends, you will of course accept this.

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Because if you don't, and I say this as a friend,

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Maggie had Ronnie, Tony had George, Dave had Barack, Michael here has

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One faces the daunting task of turning a vague,

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populist fantasy into reality without the world crashing in.

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The other is the new President of the United States.

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Tomorrow night he will sit in the Oval Office,

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changing the nuclear codes to match his Twitter password.

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And what could possibly go wrong when he leans over to tweet

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He's promised to do everything he can to create work for people

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who for too long have been stuck at home with nothing to do,

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starting with our very own Michael Gove who says

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Speaking of friends, we're joined tonight by two

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unemployables unlikely even to benefit from Mr Trump's

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vow to be the greatest job-creating President ever.

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I speak, of course, of the main reasons this country is rushing

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Your moment of the week. You said that Theresa May has Donald Trump

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but I would question that. My moment was when Donald Trump gave an

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interview to Michael Gove. You will remember that Theresa May has not

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met the President-elect, Nigel Farage has met him three times. He

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has suggested Nigel Farage should be our ambassador. So now he selects

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Michael Gove, who was in favour of Brexit, who fell out with Boris

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Johnson. When Boris Johnson was in New York, he did not see Mr Trump.

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So it looked like he chose a Brexiteer who had been rejected from

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the government, who had had a big row with Boris Johnson. I think he

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is trying to tell Theresa May something and if I were her, I would

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get on with finding someone to be ambassador who has been recruited

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from outside the Foreign Office and has said nothing unpleasant about

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Donald Trump in the past. Maybe they will start looking. Your moment?

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Mine is Donald Trump related. It is the list of the inauguration line-up

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of acts. It is as if Theresa May had Chas and Dave playing at Number Ten.

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It is hilarious and woeful. Except that I was in the states when

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Hillary Clinton had Beyonce and Bon Jovi and Jay Z. All the greatest

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stars in the right of states, and she lost. I recognise that, I just

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find a list... And why attack Chas and Dave? They won our Christmas

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special. We had to give them sandwiches. That is how difficult it

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was to get them. You give them the moment of the week and they slack

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you off. Now, the World Economic Forum

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is hosting its 30th It's a low key affair with fun

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for the whole family. When they get bored of rubbing

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shoulders with the likes of Shakira and Matt Damon,

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heads of state and assorted fat cats can enjoy a refugee simulator

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in which they crawl on all fours Though I guess

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President Assad will be Anyways, for the few

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of you who don't have half a million pounds to throw

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at a weekend in Switzerland, here's Poland's former foreign

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minister Radislaw Sikorski Free trade has opened up

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Europe and the world. But we now have a US President

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who has promised his supporters to alleviate

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the downside of globalisation. Mr Trump has said many

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contradictory things during the US election campaign,

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but on one thing he has been consistent, his

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suspicion of free trade. But, at Davos this week,

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the President of China has said that to cut off flows of people,

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goods and capital between the economies,

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is like diverting rivers into lakes. Meanwhile, Britain is leaving

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the European Union partly on the hope of a quick,

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free trade deal with But if you thought that the row over

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bent bananas was ludicrous, wait for the row over

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US chlorine-soaked chicken. Unless agriculture is excluded

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from such a free trade deal, British farmers will have to compete

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with Texan farmers and Prime Minister Theresa May made

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a speech at Lancaster House this week which was positive in tone

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but in substance it sketched out The reality is that Britain cannot

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negotiate a free trade deal with the United States

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while still remaining a member of the European Union

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and Britain is not yet a member Protectionism usually

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provokes a reaction. If President Trump acts on some

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of his pronouncements, We have seen that movie

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before in the 1930s. Michael, are we heading for a trade

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war under Donald Trump? I don't know, but there was a tell-tale

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phrase in your report which was that we cannot have a free-trade deal

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while members of the European Union. Quite right, because the European

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Union is a protectionist block. It it wrecked barriers against the

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outside world. The only people who are clearly in favour of global free

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trade are the British. I will let you come back and then I will go to

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Jess. The external tariff of the European Union is approximately 3%.

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President Trump is talking about a tariff of 35%, which would actually

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be illegal under the existing treaties. The European external

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tariff on dairy products, on 54 different dairy products is 75%.

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Agriculture is protected everywhere which is wide that Doha round failed

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and it will be difficult to negotiate the deal with the United

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States. You cannot simultaneously argue on the one hand that the

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external tariff of the European Union is very very low and also to

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say that it would be a calamity if Britain finds itself facing this

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external tariff. It is either very low, or it isn't. If it is very low,

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it doesn't matter whether Britain faces this low tariff or not. I

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think that Britain is embarking on an interesting experiment. That is

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understatement. If it works, we will all be following you. Do you feel we

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are heading for a trade war? It is difficult to say but I don't think

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that Donald Trump... His whole platform that he stood on during the

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election was a 0-sum game where all trade deals were bad for America at

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the moment and the only thing he is going to look for his good things

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for American trade. That is what a President would do, a British Prime

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Minister would say the same. Every country wants a decent trade deal

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for themselves. That is why you have negotiations. He was suggesting

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every trade deal is currently bad for the US so he would renegotiate

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everything. That is totally unrealistic. Did you tell me the

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President of China has been in Davos arguing for free trade, the

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President of China whose country has systematically manipulated its

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currency to have an unfair advantage in trade? China daily today

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described the President of China as the general secretary now of

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globalisation and free trade. Do we need lectures from the Chinese on

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this? Since they joined the WTO in 2001 they have consistently broken

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its rules on protectionism. As I understand, they are now trying to

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prop up the currency, and certainly hundreds of millions of people in

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China have benefited from global trade, just as Mexico has, and

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thereby the migration from Mexico to the United States has dropped. Lots

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of blue-collar workers, and this partly explains Brexit and Mr Trump,

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because of the huge ramping up of Chinese productive capacity and then

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in many cases the dumping of the low cost of products, including steel,

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has cost many blue-collar workers in Europe and America their jobs.

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Economists arguing to what extent it is trade and to what extent

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automation. There is one free-trade deal that Mr Trump things would be

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good and that is with Britain. If America was to offer Britain a

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free-trade deal, why would we not do it? Already, he said we were at the

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front of the queue and then, isn't it Mexico and Canada have jumped the

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queue now? He has free-trade deals with them already and does not like

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them. Why wouldn't we do a free-trade deal with America?

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Hitherto, for the last few decades, Britain was negotiating with the

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negotiating strength of the largest economy on earth, the European

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Union. Now you will be negotiating with two giants, the United States

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and the European Union. I am not sure you're negotiating position

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will be stronger. But if Australia can do a free-trade deal with

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America to its advantage, why couldn't we? The mutual recognition

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of standards, which is being proposed, is going to be

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controversial. Do you really want GM ohs, do you really want... You think

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our economic future should be determined by whether we can buy

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chlorinated chicken? I think the dispute over Bent bananas will be a

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small thing by comparison. One of the releases I'm looking forward to

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is being released from this nonsense about genetically modified food

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products. You are all for them? I certainly am. Is the EU is so weak

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it is to give Britain a punishment beating to stop others rushing to

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the door? We will wait and see. It is difficult to say at the moment.

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Theresa May has played a strong hand this week and made it seem, only in

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the UK, not in Europe, that we have real strength and we will give you,

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if you give us a beating we will be really tough. But it is still just

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all, clouds that mean nothing, that evaporate when you touch them. I

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don't feel they are weak and we are strong.

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Is the threat to walk away which Mrs May said in her speech on Tuesday,

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that no deal is better than a bad deal? Yes. We have touched upon the

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external tariff of the European Union. In the moments after the June

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23rd vote, sterling fell against the euro by about 10%. We are talking

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about external tariffs of 3 and 4% so we already have a bigger

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advantage than the external tariff. She's played it cleverly because she

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said we are leaving the single market, we'll probably not be in the

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customs union either. A decision is required by the European Union at

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that point, whether to impose tariffs on their goods coming to us

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and ours going to them. I think it's going to be quite a difficult

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political sell for Poland and certainly Germany and France. Why?

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To tell people, we are going to destroy your jobs by making it more

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difficult for you to export cars to the UK, more difficult to export...

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No, they are just going to say, we are going to take, you know, the car

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manufacturing that currently exists where I live and put it in Poland,

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make Poland great again. So where are the car plants going to come

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from? They'll... They are going to move Jaguar to Poland? Definitely

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not. I'm not Len McCluskey. But why wouldn't they buy their car parts

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and bits and pieces where they don't have to take their lorries through

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borders, they don't have to have red tape? It's like the Conservatives

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are arguing for red tape which is so weird. No, no, what I'm saying is

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that the European Union has to take a deliberate policy of retribution

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against... No, the European Union doesn't need to do anything. Britain

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will put itself outside of the customs area. That means the

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external tariff will apply without the EU doing anything. You are

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resigning from the club and you will be treated as a member of the

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public. But my favourite threat is, if the EU doesn't do what we say,

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we'll lower corporation tax. Guess what, corporation tax in Ireland,

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Cyprus, is 12.5%, in Hungary it's 9%. You can lower your corporation

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tax without leaving the European Union. Indeed. Though the commission

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hates it when you do it. OK. The Irish have been lent on to raise it.

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There are increasing protectionist forces in Europe. We'll see that in

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the elections in Holland, France and in Austria, perhaps also in Italy as

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well. So why shouldn't the UK strike out to the rest of the world to do

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deals if Europe is becoming more protectionist? It's illegal to

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become protectionist inside the European Union. What you mean by

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that is that there are stronger pressures to limit the free movement

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of people. But... But also they can do trade deals. We have done one

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with Canada but it takes a long time to do them. Ukraine is similar to

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what Britain will eventually want, a sector by sector compromise. That

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took seven years. It's a complicated thing to do. Two years to implement.

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It's difficult. But there is one more area where I think people in

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Britain need to be clear about, name under existing rules, EU citizens

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can only reside in other member states like Britain for three

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months. After three months, if they are a burden on the public

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Exchequer, you can actually move people out. You and I both know

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that's not going to happen. But you could have acted on it. Hold on, Mrs

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May offered Mrs Merkel a deal to take EU citizens in this country a

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UK... You are talking at crossed purposes. If he's saying if people

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are already on the public purse you can move them out. May I make a

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broad point on freedom of movement of people. It's alleged this is

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fundamental of the creation of the single market. Of course it isn't.

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You could have a single market without the free movement of people.

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The reason there is the free movement of people in the European

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Union is the same reason there is a Single Currency because these are

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attributes of a single nation state because it's the aspiration of the

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European Union to become a single nation state. That is our

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fundamental problem with the whole thing. In the words of a British

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Prime Minister, "not a super state but a super power". We are going to

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leave it there. We have overran because it's an interesting

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discussion. Thank you for being with us.

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Now it's late, change the White House wifi password late,

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as President Obama hides fake spiders and stink bombs

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But we're on the edge of our seat for Trump's inaugural shindig.

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Poor Donald has had a rough old time booking performers for the party,

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disrespected by the jealous losers of Hollywood.

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Dry your tears Mr President-elect because, waiting in the wings

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to straighten up the bullies, is headmaster and historian

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Anthony Seldon, putting respect in our spotlight.

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There will be strictly no mobile phones allowed in class,

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not to mention Facebanter, Twitteasing, Snapchithcat or we'll

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Now, our friends at London's top museums have been in touch,

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asking Labour MPs to please stop sending over their CVs for every job

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John McDonnell's application for the Bank of England Museum

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job has been rejected - I think we can work out why.

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But we can't fathom why our very own Jess Phillips has been turned

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down as curator of the Civil War Museum.

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But the National Maritime Museum is keen to interview any Labour MP

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looking for a new start in life since they all have plenty

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Here with a career change of his own, Quentin Letts

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with the political round up of the week.

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Well, they said they wanted a clean Brexit.

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# I'll polish the leaves, make them green again

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# Shake out the trees, change the scene again

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# Spring cleaning, getting ready for love.#

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Still, they were very clear, they wanted a clean Brexit.

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Both sides in the referendum campaign made it clear that a vote

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to leave the EU would be a vote to leave the single market.

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So we do not seek membership of the single market.

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Instead, we seek the greatest possible access to it.

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I can confirm today that the government will put

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the final deal that is agreed between the UK and the EU to a vote

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The business community welcomed the clarity from the PM.

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And some bloke called Boris Johnson was tweeting videos about it.

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I've just been listening to Theresa May's fantastic speech

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about global Britain and about how we're going to take back control

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of our borders and loads of money that we currently send to the EU.

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But also, of course, come out of the EU's legal system,

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the single market, but not leave Europe.

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Also cheering was a vindicated Nigel Farage.

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Best not to mention that it leaves his party

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We are leaving the single market, even if Nick Clegg is crying

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But not everyone was so gracious in hard Brexit.

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Oh, there's Mr Clegg, off to drown his sorrows and stockpile

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What she's done is taken the views of 51.9% of the people who voted

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to leave the European Union last June and assume they all meant

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the same as Nigel Farage, and assume they wanted an extreme

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Brexit that was not on the ballot paper.

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Jeremy Corbyn went on Brexit at PMQs, the Labour leader railing

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against the idea of a bargain Brexit.

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"She has said that leave the single market, but at the same time says

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she wants to have access to the single market.

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I'm not quite sure how that's going to go down in Europe.

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I think we have to have a deal that ensures we have

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Oh, well, someone had to make up the numbers, I suppose.

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Oh, dear, it looks like they preloaded.

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I hope they don't do anything embarrassing when they meet

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# Cos you and I have a rendezvous under the sky

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# Spring cleaning, getting ready for love.#

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Michael Gove met Donald Trump in New York this week and the former

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Justice Secretary just about maintained his composure,

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and Mr Trump congratulated Mr Gove on Brexit.

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Some of these books have got pages missing.

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I thought the UK was so smart in getting out.

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And you were there, and you guys wrote it,

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If they hadn't been forced to take in all of the refugees, so many,

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with all the problems that entails, I think that you wouldn't

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The refugees issue has damaged Angela Merkel and threatens

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Mutti Merkel was her normal, cheerful self.

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TRANSLATION: There can be no cherrypicking during negotiations

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Otherwise we might end up with some who might find it more attractive

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For the SNP, hard Brexit is another chance to call for independence.

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Do we want to be taken down a path that we didn't vote

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for and is against all of our interests, or do we want to take

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And that is a choice that I think Scotland has the right to make.

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Could hard Brexit mean a hard border with the Republic?

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Maybe see what this lot have been watching on telly.

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There's a nice Andrew Neil programme later on in the evening

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where he invites people on a very tight sofa, as I recall.

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It was a good programme and Andrew Neil held the chair well.

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Disconcerting that the chairman of the BBC speaks about us in the past

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tense! Thanks to Samir and Belkis

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at Juniper TV for allowing us to employ the services of a somewhat

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second rate cleaner. SNP superstar John Nicholson,

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welcome back to our programme. Thank you, Andrew. The consensus is that

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Theresa May had a good week this week, is that right? Yes. In fact, I

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think the speech was largely statements of the obvious and these

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things could have been deduced some time ago. But she had been so silent

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on the question and had given an impression of being indecisive. So

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when she said these things categorically, and I must say

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neatly, she said them well. There was a terrific reaction to it. Jess?

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I think it was clear. I agree entirely with Michael, it was a

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statement of the bleeding obvious. But for her to say that we wouldn't

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be members of the single market, although you could deduce that from

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other things that were said, for her to say it though to get it on the

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record, it was quite a step forward? Not a step backwards, well depending

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on your opinion. She did two bold things. Before Christmas we had the

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vote on the principle of the triggering of article 50 which she

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won with a tremendous majority. Now this bold speech has gone well. So I

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hope she's encouraged to carry on being bold. What do you think? A

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Labour MP told me she was in tears listening to the speech because she

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thought to herself, this means the end of the union. Does it? Well, I

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thought it was disrespectful for Theresa May to give the speech in

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the way she did because she'd said very clearly that Scotland's voice

:28:18.:28:28.

had to be heard. The Joint Committee was due to meet after the speech.

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The Scottish Parliament put forward its proposals and Mrs May said

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repeatedly, we'll listen to Scotland's point of view, it's an

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equal partner, then she announces very dramatically the future of

:28:41.:28:43.

Scotland in Europe without actually talking to the Scottish ministers at

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all. I'm surpriseth rised she didn't go through the motions. --

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surprised. Is it clear Labour doesn't have a Brexit strategy?

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Clear in the same sentence, it's fair to say it's not all that clear.

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But it's incredibly difficult is the honest answer. The honest truth is

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that there are swathes of Labour seats that voted for Brexit, yet two

:29:16.:29:20.

thirds of Labour voters apparently, however they deduce these things

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from the polls, voted to remain. Then there are huge areas of Labour

:29:26.:29:30.

vote where people are not just rep Remain, but vehemently Remain. So

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there is, I get it both barrels from all angles regardless of people's

:29:38.:29:41.

opinion so I could sit here all day and say it should have been clearer,

:29:42.:29:46.

but it's incredibly difficult. Incredibly complex. One of my

:29:47.:29:51.

abiding memories as an MP is being in the lobby and watching Labour MPs

:29:52.:29:58.

berating Gisela Stuart in the aftermath of the referendum result

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with a rage that I have never seen in Parliament since I came to

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Parliament. They have changed their choosing. On

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this so far, they say, we respect the decision of the British people.

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And it is going to be a three line whip. Votes on austerity do not get

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that, but this does. I read the headline, and then when I read it,

:30:29.:30:31.

Jeremy Corbyn had just said, we will ask them. I had people getting in

:30:32.:30:37.

touch saying, I am leaving the Labour Party. Assuming after the

:30:38.:30:41.

Supreme Court ruling that we seem to think the judges will uphold the

:30:42.:30:46.

High Court ruling, if that is the case, the SNP will vote against

:30:47.:30:52.

triggering Article 50, right? We have not met to decide that but it

:30:53.:30:56.

is my assumption that we would because Scotland voted to stay, so I

:30:57.:30:59.

think we should reflect the wishes of our electorate. Given that,

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particularly if there is a three line whip, it gets through

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Parliament, doesn't it? Of course, under those circumstances. So I

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would hope and ask that as many MPs as possible from the Labour Party

:31:16.:31:21.

develop a backbone over this. You said you will represent your

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electorate. 67% of my constituents voted to leave. So... Does Ukip have

:31:27.:31:34.

a future? If Mrs May is seen to be the hard Brexit, what is the point

:31:35.:31:39.

of Ukip? Ukip's best hope was that by the time of the next election

:31:40.:31:45.

this would still be up in the air. The decision by the British people

:31:46.:31:49.

which had not been delivered. It is still possible to imagine

:31:50.:31:53.

circumstances in which that might happen, but clearly, Mrs May has

:31:54.:31:58.

smelt the danger, sensed the danger, and made a move which makes life

:31:59.:32:03.

very difficult for Ukip. At the moment, I would say the combination

:32:04.:32:07.

of the new leader and the fact that wrecks it appears to be proceeding

:32:08.:32:10.

apace makes the outlook for Ukip poor. -- Brexit. The Scottish First

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Minister has ruled out a referendum for this year. Is it your view that

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if there is to be a second referendum, does it have to come

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before the UK believes the EU? Does it have to come in the window

:32:31.:32:37.

between the beginning of 2018, and probably March 2019? If there is

:32:38.:32:40.

going to be a second one, is that when it has to be? I don't get a

:32:41.:32:45.

sense that people have an understanding of what Brexit means

:32:46.:32:49.

for them. They have found so far that there laptop has gone up in

:32:50.:32:56.

price. We have not got too much time, I just want to know if that is

:32:57.:33:01.

the window. We need to see what the deal is on the table. When will the

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third referendum be? Presumably you will hold them continuously until

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you get the right answer. I always took the view that on balance the

:33:13.:33:15.

first referendum would be lost. I think the second will be one. I

:33:16.:33:22.

remember that the SNP ran on a manifesto last year that said if

:33:23.:33:26.

there is a material change in circumstance, we reserve the right

:33:27.:33:31.

to hold a second referendum. Clearly, being put out of the EU is

:33:32.:33:35.

a material change. So when is the third one? We do not even know when

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the second one is. Let me come onto the inauguration, the global story.

:33:43.:33:49.

Let me point out something that could never have been said before.

:33:50.:33:53.

There is now a Eurosceptic moving into the Oval Office. There is now

:33:54.:33:58.

somebody who backs Brexit moving into the Oval Office, someone who

:33:59.:34:04.

has no interest in EU integration, indeed, I think would not mind if it

:34:05.:34:10.

unravelled. It totally changes state Department policy for the past 50

:34:11.:34:15.

is. This is a watershed in Britain and Europe's relationship with the

:34:16.:34:20.

United States. Yes, assuming he can carry that through the ranks of the

:34:21.:34:24.

State Department, absolutely. I found it so frustrating as Defence

:34:25.:34:28.

Secretary watching the efforts of the French to ease the Americans out

:34:29.:34:34.

of Europe, to create a European defence identity to supplant Nato,

:34:35.:34:39.

although extremely ineffectively. I was frustrated that the Americans

:34:40.:34:43.

could not see the danger posed to our joint security by the

:34:44.:34:47.

arrangements that were, that the European Union as spy at to make. I

:34:48.:34:52.

am pleased now to have a more realistic President. It is quite a

:34:53.:34:58.

watershed. That is the first time I have heard the words "Realistic" and

:34:59.:35:05.

"Trump" in the same sentence. It is an enormous change. I mean for

:35:06.:35:13.

Britain, to have a Eurosceptic, pro-Brexit, that would never have

:35:14.:35:16.

happened under any other President. It is an enormous turnaround. We

:35:17.:35:23.

have not had the opportunity to decide what is the difference

:35:24.:35:27.

between his rhetoric and the reality. How will he perform as a

:35:28.:35:32.

President? It was interesting when Michael Gove asked him whether

:35:33.:35:35.

Britain was at the front of the queue and was desperate to get that

:35:36.:35:41.

answer. His answer was, you are doing great. What does that mean?

:35:42.:35:49.

Final thoughts. All over Europe, Theresa May is being pictured next

:35:50.:35:53.

to Donald Trump in cartoons as if they are in it together and a lack

:35:54.:35:58.

of global vision, tiny minded, small island... I thought Mrs May's speech

:35:59.:36:04.

to Davos yesterday and on Tuesday morning was all about going into the

:36:05.:36:11.

world, global vision. Just because she is saying, I like the world...

:36:12.:36:18.

There are 12 countries Liam Fox is talking to about free trade. Why is

:36:19.:36:24.

that not going into the world? Because it is meaningless while we

:36:25.:36:30.

do not know what we will end up with with the European Union. Donald

:36:31.:36:34.

Trump, I suppose, has come at a good time, while we are looking for

:36:35.:36:38.

people who also do not like Europe to hang out with. We can hang out

:36:39.:36:43.

with him. I think that Jess is labouring under the illusion that

:36:44.:36:47.

the European Union is a free trade organisation. It is a protectionist

:36:48.:36:51.

organisation. We have come full circle and I will move on. Thank

:36:52.:36:52.

you. Now, I have to interrupt

:36:53.:36:55.

proceedings to issue an apology With the greatest respect,

:36:56.:36:58.

we no longer want full membership of your exclusive nightclub,

:36:59.:37:01.

just the greatest possible access. Michael just doesn't

:37:02.:37:04.

understand why you won't give And why can't Jess hear a British

:37:05.:37:06.

accent when she's in the courtyard I hope you're sensible enough

:37:07.:37:10.

to allow us free entry whenever we feel like it and without regard

:37:11.:37:14.

to club rules. But if you're going to be

:37:15.:37:16.

unreasonable, well, we'll respectfully have

:37:17.:37:18.

to open our own club where we'll sell bootleg Blue Nun and bargain

:37:19.:37:20.

basement Mini Cheddars Prime Minister Theresa May was full

:37:21.:37:22.

of respect for her European friends when outlining her divorce

:37:23.:37:43.

terms on Monday. I respect the position taken

:37:44.:37:44.

by European leaders. We not only respect that

:37:45.:37:46.

fact, but support it. Boris Johnson appeared to compare

:37:47.:37:56.

Anglo-French relations to life Has he lost the esteem

:37:57.:37:58.

of his parliamentary It is amazing, isn't it,

:37:59.:38:05.

that this guy is in charge of the Foreign Office,

:38:06.:38:08.

our great Foreign Office? He doesn't seem to be learning any

:38:09.:38:10.

of the lessons of diplomacy. Should this man really be at the top

:38:11.:38:13.

of our foreign relations? Any senior politician,

:38:14.:38:16.

just don't mention the war. Meanwhile, Barack Obama

:38:17.:38:19.

was keen to show his respect for the White House press pack,

:38:20.:38:25.

a week after his successor I want to thank you all

:38:26.:38:28.

for your extraordinary service to our democracy,

:38:29.:38:33.

and with that, I will In Davos, Xi Jinping,

:38:34.:38:35.

Communist China's authoritarian president, called on leaders

:38:36.:38:46.

of liberal democracies TRANSLATION: We must remain

:38:47.:38:49.

committed to developing free Public school don and historian

:38:50.:38:55.

Anthony Seldon knows all about character,

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so how important is respect And Anthony Seldon joins us now.

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Thank you for being with us. Is our respect for each other in general,

:39:23.:39:28.

is it in decline? It's very hard to say. We can say that it's a really

:39:29.:39:33.

important commodity in society, it's what makes a good or just society.

:39:34.:39:40.

If we don't have that sense of wanting to support each other,

:39:41.:39:42.

understand each other, if we are just going to be blanking each other

:39:43.:39:46.

out, denigrating each other, humiliating each other, then we

:39:47.:39:51.

don't have the basis for what, throughout history, has made good

:39:52.:39:55.

societies. And we should be teaching it in schools all the way through.

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We don't do enough of that in schools? We have a crazy school

:40:00.:40:07.

system. We focus just on exams, a single person, cramming their head

:40:08.:40:11.

with information, spitting it out, passive knowledge, regurgitating it

:40:12.:40:15.

in exams. This has nothing to do with preparing people for life, for

:40:16.:40:19.

life in society, for building good building blocks for our communities,

:40:20.:40:25.

has nothing to do with building families, nothing to do with even

:40:26.:40:30.

jobs, you know. Nobody in a job, as it struck anybody in government,

:40:31.:40:34.

sits on their own and answers essay questions. They work together,

:40:35.:40:39.

thinking. We need to develop entrepreneurship, active learning

:40:40.:40:46.

and decent values. Have we become a less respectful society? I'm not

:40:47.:40:51.

sure that we have. You hear statistics about elderly people

:40:52.:40:55.

being more lonely and people not to visiting their grandparents any more

:40:56.:40:59.

and things like that. I can't say I notice on the street that young

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people are disrespecting any more than... Obviously, I am a bit

:41:03.:41:08.

younger than the other people here, so maybe it's not in my lifetime

:41:09.:41:15.

that it's gone downhill. Obviously, you are only marginally older. I am

:41:16.:41:19.

surprised Anthony launched that critique of education with all the

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focus on exams. One of the things that characterises education is

:41:25.:41:28.

respect for teachers. That is an enormous driver, one of the triptych

:41:29.:41:32.

things that comes out of education. If teachers do not hold the respect

:41:33.:41:37.

of their pupils, you have a problem. I assume that at the schools where

:41:38.:41:41.

you were headmaster, respect was substantial. I am still in touch

:41:42.:41:45.

with my headmaster. Imagine how old he is, given how old you think I am.

:41:46.:41:52.

Good old Harrow County, which has helped to make you what you are. We

:41:53.:41:57.

are affected by the family, the groups around us. Schools and exams

:41:58.:42:03.

are important. The problem is we thought exams and Ofsted report 's

:42:04.:42:06.

were all that matters in schools. Actually, it is about building... I

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think the referendum showed that people still respect Parliament.

:42:16.:42:18.

British people thought, here is something that we value, we think

:42:19.:42:22.

should be put in the prime position. We understand it. The British people

:42:23.:42:28.

are good at changing Parliament. We go from massive Labour majorities to

:42:29.:42:32.

annihilating the Labour Party. We support the Liberal Democrats, then

:42:33.:42:36.

we annihilate them. The British people have control of it, and

:42:37.:42:40.

therefore they respect it. This is certainly true. Such a narrow

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margin, 48-52. I was for Remainer, but we lost, and let's make the most

:42:48.:42:51.

of it. That is what the vast majority have accepted. There is

:42:52.:42:59.

great respect for parliamentarians. Is there? Is it healthy that we seem

:43:00.:43:04.

to have lost respect for a lot of institutions? We should be critical.

:43:05.:43:08.

A lot of great education in schools is about teaching scepticism, not

:43:09.:43:12.

just to accept authority because it is authority. We are a democracy and

:43:13.:43:17.

we should be critical and form our own judgments. And you can show too

:43:18.:43:23.

much respect. In Davos this week, the Davos elite showed too much

:43:24.:43:27.

respect to the President of China, not raising the issues they should

:43:28.:43:33.

have done with him. We should always challenge people. People worthy of

:43:34.:43:38.

respect deserve our respect. We should not respect people who do not

:43:39.:43:41.

respect us, themselves or other people. I think respect is not an

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absolute, it is a qualified and it should be there, but it is able then

:43:47.:43:51.

block of society. What are the chances we will come to respect

:43:52.:43:57.

Donald Trump. None. I will never respect anyone like that. You have

:43:58.:44:02.

to respect the office, and the majority of Americans will continue

:44:03.:44:07.

to respect the office. He is head of state and of government. He has a

:44:08.:44:13.

chance, if he respect men and women, he will get there. I have two

:44:14.:44:17.

respect the schedule. We have run out of time.

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That's your lot for tonight folks, but not for us, we're off

:44:20.:44:22.

to LouLou's for Joe Biden's end of the world survivalist jamboree.

:44:23.:44:25.

Free nuclear bunkers and cyanide pills for everyone!

:44:26.:44:27.

Joe has put together the line-up of a lifetime -

:44:28.:44:29.

Beyonce, Adele, Elvis, Queen and even the Beatles

:44:30.:44:31.

But perhaps not quite as much as what's happening

:44:32.:44:36.

Nighty night, don't let the 45th President of the United States bite.

:44:37.:44:46.

And I don't care, frankly, if it's going to be beautiful

:44:47.:44:55.

I have a feeling it's going to be beautiful.

:44:56.:45:01.

Because what we've done is so special.

:45:02.:45:04.

All over the world they are talking about it.

:45:05.:45:07.

And we are going to make America great again.

:45:08.:45:15.

Thank you very much and enjoy the fireworks.

:45:16.:45:37.

That I will faithfully execute the Office...

:45:38.:45:41.

And will to the best of my ability...

:45:42.:45:45.

The Constitution of the United States...

:45:46.:45:57.

Why would James Delaney hate the India so?

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Andrew Neil is joined by Michael Portillo, Jess Phillips and John Nicolson to review the political week, with a film from Quentin Letts. Their studio guests are Polish politician and journalist Radoslaw Sikorski, a foreign minister in Donald Tusk's government, who talks about US, UK and EU politics, while Anthony Seldon talks respect in the spotlight section.