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22/06/2017

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Hello, welcome to Thursday In Parliament.

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Theresa May says tests are being carried out

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on tower block cladding, following the Grenfell fire.

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As a precaution, the Government has arranged to test cladding in all

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relevant tower blocks. Shortly before I came to the Chamber, I was

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informed that a number of these tests have come back as compost to

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bowl. -- combustible. The Home Secretary, Amber Rudd,

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warns the UK is entering We must do more to defeat ideologies

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of hatred by turning towards British values. Churchill famously said,

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courage is what it takes to stand up and speak. Courage is also what it

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takes to sit down and listen. But first - The Prime Minister has

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revealed that tests have shown that cladding used on some high-rise

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buildings is combustible. Theresa May was making a statement

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to the Commons following the fire at the Grenfell Tower block

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in West London last week. At least 79 people are

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believed to have died, with hundreds more made

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homeless and having lost It's estimated that 600 other

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blocks in England have Mr Speaker, it should

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never have happened. In a few moments, I will say how

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we are going to discover why But as I said yesterday,

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that initial failure was then compounded by the fact that the

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support on the ground in the initial As Prime Minister, I have

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apologised for that second failure and taking

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responsibility for doing what we can It quickly became clear that

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Kensington and Chelsea could not cope.

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And it was right the Chief Executive Officer had

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resigned, but it wasn't just about the steps taken

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in the first few weeks, but what happened long

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Each family had received a ?500,000 payment for food

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So far, more than 700,000 had been paid out.

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Mr Speaker, that people understand they can keep the

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These grants are not loans and they will not be

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Neither are they waiving any legal rights as a result of accepting this

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The payments will be disregarded for means tested welfare

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So no-one in receipt of benefits will see their

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benefits cut if they accept emergency support.

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And I would like to reassure people that we will not

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use this tragic incident as a reason to carry

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those involved or on those providing vital information to identify

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victims or those assisting with the criminal investigation.

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And new homes were being found for those left homeless.

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Mrs May confirmed there'd be a public inquiry and hoped there'd

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be an interim report as soon as possible.

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In the meantime, safety checks had and were being carried out.

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I should of course be careful on speculating

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But as a precaution, the Government has

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arranged to test cladding in all relevant tower blocks.

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Mr Speaker, shortly before I came to the

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Chamber, I was informed that a number of these tests have come

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The relevant local authorities and local Fire Services

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And as they speak, they are taking all possible

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steps to ensure buildings are safe and to inform affected residents.

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There is grief, there is anger, and there is also great

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And I hope the whole house will join with me in

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commending the community spirit and public support which helped

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Every single one of those deaths could and should

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The Grenfell Tower residents themselves had

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raised concerns about the lack of fire safety in the block.

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The Grenfell Action Group had warned, and I quote, "It is a truly

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terrifying thought, but the Grenfell Action Group firmly

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believes that only a catastrophic event will expose the ineptitude

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the Kensington and Chelsea Tenant Management Organisation."

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The Prime Minister said it is right that the CEO of Kensington and

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It may be, but why aren't the political leaders of Kensington

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and Chelsea taking responsibility as well for this

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Mr Speaker, from Hillsborough to the child sex abuse

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scandal to Grenfell Tower, the pattern is consistent.

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Working-class people's' voices are ignored, there are concerns

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We have to learn those lessons to make sure this tragedy is

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a turning point in our whole attitude and never again do people

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die needlessly in a towering inferno, living in poverty,

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This needs to be about Parliament recognising the significance of what

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We can never be as a country in this position again.

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And I welcome the remarks of the Prime Minister

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Let's make sure that social housing is something that we invest in.

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The local MP said she spoke on behalf of a traumatised

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and frightened community with little trust in authority.

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She called for cuts in Fire Services to be reversed.

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Will the Prime Minister commit to an adequate fund to enable emergency

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services and particularly the London Fire Brigade to be fully funded to

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carry out this work and reverse the cuts to the funding of Fire Services

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that have made their lives so difficult? These people have quite

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literally paralysed in their hands. In short, where is the funding? In

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recent years, London has seen many high-quality high-rises being built,

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often financed with hot foreign money and then left empty for years,

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sometimes with the kitchens clingfilm and pristine. Where we all

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understand there are occasions when the landlord will need to leave an

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apartment empty from time to time, when brand-new properties are empty

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for many years, to the prime ministers think it is rape to

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discuss with her honourable friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer

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change in the taxation regime so that these people face punitive

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taxation? My wife and I mentored and employed and encouraged a young

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woman who lost her life with her mother on the 20th floor of Grenfell

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Tower. On their behalf, and all the people that died, I urge the Prime

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Minister to say something more about the criminal investigation that was

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announced last week. She has talked about public enquiry, but she

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understands that most people see this as a crime and they know that

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rich and powerful organisations get away with crime. The criminal

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investigation has been opened by the Metropolitan Police. The red

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honourable gentleman invites me to comment on that in a whole variety

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of ways will stop people know this is an operational matter for the

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Metropolitan Police. It is for them to determine any point at which they

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have evidence which could lead to prosecutions or two charges or

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presentations. We must let the net do their job. Was cladding of the

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type used in Grenfell Tower compliant with the fire safety and

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building regulations applicable at the time when the rougher

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abridgement was undertaken, yes or no?

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Theresa May said the Fire Service and the building research

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establishment had been looking at the cause of the fire

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They expected to make the result of those tests public

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The Communities Secretary, Sajid Javid, has departmental

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responsibility for housing in England, and he told the Commons

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that there had to be a new approach towards social housing in the wake

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Speaking in the continuing Queen's Speech debate,

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Sajid Javid said a change of attitude was needed.

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We all need to rethink our approach to social housing.

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And we need to reflect on the way that successive

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governments have engaged with and responded to social tenants.

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We don't yet know for could have been Grenfell Tower at their home

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had been listened to, but we do know that for far too

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could have been Grenfell Tower at their home

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had been listened to, but we do know that for far too

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long their voices so if nothing else, let the legacy

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of Grenfell Tower be that such voices will never

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Does he actually accept and will he confirm now that since 2010,

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governments record in building social homes is deplorable and has

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shown in fact a 97% fall in social housing stocks?

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Mr Deputy Speaker, there was a deplorable record on

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building social homes, and that was the last

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But of course, we have a Welsh Labour

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Government in Wales that is committed to building 20,000 new

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homes and is building new social housing

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and council housing in

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Would he also agree that lessons need to be

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learned from Wales on a different approach to fire safety, and the

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fact that we introduce measures that requires sprinkler systems to be

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fitted in a new high-rise buildings and converted buildings?

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There are a lot of lessons to be learnt from

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I think when it comes to fire safety, we should learn lessons from

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The honourable gentleman will also know that for

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new buildings since 2007, it has also been a requirement to require

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Labour's John Huey said there were still answers about the Government's

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response to the Grenfell Tower fire. He also needs to make clear,

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which the Prime Minister did not, if remedial work

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is required in order to make these blocks safe,

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and funding is required to do that, then

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the Government will provide that funding to make sure those building

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or made safe for the residents. We made it clear that we will pave

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the testing. If there is a local authority, in terms of implementing

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any necessary changes they need support and help, we will work

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without local to provide it. Support, help and funding if they

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need it, is that what the secretary is saying to this House, yes or no?

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What we have made clear is that if there is a local authority that need

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support, including funding support, we will work with them to provide

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funding support. I am grateful for that, I think the house is grateful

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for that. Finally, it has taken probably a dozen questions to him

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and to be Prime Minister and the leader of the house during the

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course of the day to get that statement, but it is of course

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welcome. You're watching Thursday in

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Parliament with me, Alicia McCarthy. The response to the string of recent

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terror attacks is to be examined by the former independent reviewer

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of terrorism legislation, The recent attacks in London

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and Manchester have claimed There was outrage after an attack

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on an Ariana Grande Concert in Manchester at the end of May,

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which happened as thousands of youngsters were streaming

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out of the venue. The suicide bomber blew himself up

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by detonating a device in the foyer The Home Secretary, Amber Rudd,

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told MPs Mr Anderson would be reviewing the Government's

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counter-terrorism strategy, to make sure the police

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and the security services had We are entering a new phase

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of global terrorism and many of the challenges that

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we face are unprecedented. We now believe we are

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experiencing a new trend We must do more to defeat

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ideologies of hatred by turning people's minds away from

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violence and towards pluralistic We must make sure that these

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ideologies are not able We must do more to

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force tech companies to take down terror-related content

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from their platforms. And we must also do more

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to identify, challenge and stamp out the extremism

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that lurks in our communities. Doing more also means

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asking difficult questions In light of the terrorist attacks

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in London and Manchester, Britain's counterterrorism strategy will be

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reviewed to make sure that the police and the security services

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have what they need to keep us safe. In addition to this,

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there will be a review of the handling of recent terror

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attacks to look at whether lessons can be learned

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about our approach. I'm pleased to announce

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that David Anderson, former independent reviewer

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of terrorist legislation, I noted the actions the Government

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has taken in the Home Secretary's statement, and largely on this side

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of the House, we support them. But we would warn

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against an emphasis on more legislation rather than looking

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at the issue of resources. We will look at all

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legislative proposals that the Government brings forward

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on their merits, but we believe that resources is at the heart of this,

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not just new legislation. It is one thing to

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talk about specialist policing and security resources,

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but we cannot overstate, the importance

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of neighbourhood policing. It is that neighbourhood

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engagement at all levels, often in the what might seem

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simple ways, that builds the confidence in communities of

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officialdom and the Government and encourages people to come

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forward with their information which may help us to stop future

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terrorist activity happening. And we have said, and we

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continue to say, it was wrong that since 2010, we have lost

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20,000 in police numbers. During the election

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campaign, the Prime Minister spoke of ripping up human

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rights to fight terrorism. We'll be Home Secretary

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confirmed that there is absolutely nothing

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in the Human Rights Act or European Convention

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on Human Rights that would prevent us

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taking a robust approach to terrorism and therefore will she

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confirm that there is no plans to tear up human rights

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and that we can tackle terrorism and uphold the standards

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of this society Ms Rudd didn't answer directly,

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saying simply that the Government would provide the resources

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necessary to keep the country safe. The Prime Minister, Theresa May

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is in Brussels for talks It's her first European summit

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since losing her Commons majority She'll be setting out her plans

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to protect the rights of EU citizens in the UK and UK citizens living

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in EU countries. While the Prime Minister was engaged

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in Brexit negotiations, the House of Lords was debating

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the implications of the Queen's speech

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for international affairs. Brexit was uppermost

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in many peers' minds too, with the Archbishop of Canterbury

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calling for a cross-party position What makes this such

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an exceptional time is that for perhaps only

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the second or third time in a couple of centuries,

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we find ourselves needing, as we come to Brexit, to redefine

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our whole approach to foreign policy and what our place

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should be in the world. Trade deals, custom

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unions, single markets, financial passports,

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not all are without use unless they are seen

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as a means to serve individuals, Over the past few weeks,

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it has felt as though we've been overwhelmed by a storm of events

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that have tested our deepest values We are being tested not only

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in how we handle security, but also diversity, integration,

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social mobility and inequality. The aftermath of the horrific

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fire at the Grenfell Tower in Kensington has

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given us particular need There is no doubt that the response

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from the emergency services and civic society has been,

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and continues to be, remarkable. Communities have been

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revealed as effective. Many though, including the Prime

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Minister herself, have recognised that the support from the state has

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been inadequate in its response to those urgently and

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desperately in need. Such failure is ultimately

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a failure of values. Lord West thought the Queen's speech

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overstated the UK's strength. At paragraph 25,

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the gracious speech states that ministers will ensure

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that the United Kingdom's leading role on the world stage

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is maintained and enhanced Our soft power is formidable

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but it is as nothing if not backed by hard power

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as has been true for decades. Indeed, it has been our

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military capability that has allowed successive prime

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ministers and foreign secretaries for those decades to stride the

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world and punch above our weight. The implications for security

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of Europe are severe. We and the United States,

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and we should be proud of this, have actually ensured

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Europe's defence And Lord Sterling -

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who voted for Brexit - In the Queen's speech,

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the gracious speech, the very first sentence is

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"My Government's priority is I think that is a shocking word

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to use in any aspect. Anybody that's done a business deal

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knows that is not the word. If you really want to continue

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in friendship and in partnership, like we're emphasising all the time,

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you come to an agreement. You don't want to leave

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for that table feeling... I could use stronger words,

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that somehow or other I've got my leg over, I've got

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the best out of it, etc. You carry on on the basis that

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I want to do it again, Lord Bilimoria suggested that Brexit

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might not happen at all. It is only a matter of time

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that the people themselves will see that the Brexit

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emperor has no clothes. And given the option

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between a hard Brexit or a soft Brexit, the opinion of

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the British people at that time will probably be, why not just stay

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with what we've got? Which is the best of both worlds

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and as President Macron has said, and as the rest of the EU

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would welcome, it will be much better for us to end up staying

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in the EU and there may well be Now let's go back to the Commons,

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where the class of 2017 continued to make their first official

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appearances in the Commons. Although MPs are allowed

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to ask questions before making their first speech,

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they still need to make a maiden before they can fully take part

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in life at Westminster. Labour's new MP for Kensington Emma

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Dent Coad is the member who represents the area

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of the Grenfell Tower block, destroyed in the recent

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catastrophic fire. The horror and fear of this

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man-made catastrophe will be etched on all

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our hearts for ever. I know this from the grief etched

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on the faces of people in Ladbroke Grove, total strangers

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approaching me for comfort, reassurance, a question,

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a hug, to share their fears could be visited

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upon our neighbourhood. And the burnt out carcass

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of Grenfell Tower and all it represents glowers

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over us, and the Red Cross managing a relief programme

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in Kensington. I've seen housing

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conditions that are shocking, homes growing toxic black mould,

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five children squeezed on mattresses in one bedroom,

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homework done in relays. Chronic health problems

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such as asthma with children being carted off

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to hospital at night. The simple day-to-day organisation

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of clean clothes, food and personal cleanliness carried out

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in the rotors to allow Child poverty in Kensington,

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the same as child poverty in Lanark and Hamilton East,

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25% in Kensington. The new Labour MP for

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Enfield Southgate in London. Paid tribute to the courage

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of members of emergency services, especially those involved in dealing

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with the recent atrocities. The recent terror attacks

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have been abhorrent and terrifying, but our emergency services

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responded each and every time with the utmost courage

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and professionalism. They deserve both our

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praise and our gratitude. So too with the awful

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tragedy at Grenfell Tower I know that all of London

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grieves deeply for the family and friends of those

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who sadly lost their lives and I join in thanking and praising

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the brave people who ran towards danger

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in London once again. Mr Speaker, I am

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of Cypriot heritage. We were welcomed with tolerance

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and warmth and that is what allowed me to be here today

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in Parliament to give my maiden speech as a proud

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new MP for Enfield Southgate. This is the same welcome

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that people here extend to everybody from other nations living,

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working and studying locally. I'm proud of our diverse,

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tolerant and inclusive community that brings

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out the best in people. John Lamont the new Scottish

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Conservative MP for Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk

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reflected on Brexit. The challenges and opportunities

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thrown up from Brexit for my constituents,

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especially export businesses, farmers and fishermen will be

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of fundamental importance I will work tirelessly

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to ensure that we come out of this process stronger

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and even more together The new Conservative Mp

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for Middlesbrough South and East Cleveland, as is tradition,

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praised his constituency. For me, it has the happy

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advantage of being home. I did so in Marton in

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Middlesbrough, a few hundred yards from the birthplace of

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Captain James Cook and I can think of few better ambassadors for

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a new global Britain than a man who actually discovered

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large parts of the world. Now, Cook's cottage stands

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in the grounds of Stewart Park which was in turn originally

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the grounds of Marton Hall, home to Henry Bolckow,

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the pioneering and master and Middlesbrough's first mayor

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and member of Parliament. He was one of a generation

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of industrialists who prompted Gladstone to prison

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Middlesbrough The new MP for Aldershott

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is a former soldier. Mr Speaker, anyone familiar

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with my constituency will know that one figure

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who literally towers over us is the Duke

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of Wellington. The Iron Duke sits on horseback

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in massive bronze relief And the Iron Duke,

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never one to be over patient with politicians, I think

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would have agreed with this nation's other greatest soldier turned

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statesman, Sir Winston Churchill, who as a young cavalry officer lived

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in Aldershot's cavalry barracks Churchill famously said,

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"Courage is what it takes Courage is also what it takes

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to sit down and listen. And on that note, Mr Speaker,

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I will resume my place. but do join me on Friday night

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at 11 for our round up of the week in Parliament,

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when we'll be looking back at the Queen's speech and I'll be

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talking to two of the class of 2017 about the challenges

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facing this parliament. But for now from me,

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Alicia McCarthy, goodbye.

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