18/01/2018 Thursday in Parliament


18/01/2018

Highlights of proceedings in Parliament on Thursday 18 January, presented by Alicia McCarthy.


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Hello there and welcome to the

programme. Coming up in the next

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half-hour. The Transport Secretary

insists that the collapse of

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Correlli and will not been the end

of eight flagship rail scheme.

It

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will not affect the HS2 project.

A

Labour MP says that the Royal Bank

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of Scotland's treatment of small

businesses may be the largest theft

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anywhere ever. And MPs debate the

plight of the range of people, who

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fled from wormer for Bangladesh

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plight of the range of people, who

fled from wormer for Bangladesh.

The

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refugee camp is now equivalent to

the size of Bristol.

Carillion was

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awarded work on the HS2 project a

week after a project warning. The

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contractor collapsed this week with

debts of more than £1 billion. In

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the Commons, a conservative critic

of the rail line called for a full

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review of the project.

With the sad demise of Carillion,

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could be Secretary of State confirm

that he is performing a full review

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of the business case to make sure

that the remaining public sector, or

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private sector companies are able to

deliver these rejects without

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serious cost to the taxpayer?

I know

my right honourable friend will be

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read to note that the demise of

Carillion, a tragic event for this

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country and for corporate Britain

will nonetheless not affect the HS2

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project. The contract that exist is

part of a free public consortium.

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The other two companies are taking

over responsibility for the project.

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The apprenticeships are being

transferred, the staff are being

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transferred, the project will

continue uninterrupted.

The

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electrification project had their

contract suspended this week. Can

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the Minister clarify if all these

workers should only expect the job

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centre phone numbers the Prime

Minister said yesterday, or can she

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guarantee that these works and all

similar in structure undertakings

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will continue to completion with the

current workforce, apprentices,

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supply chain and project plan?

She

will be aware that the Government

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has made clear anyone turning up the

work on those schemes through

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subcontractors will continue to be

paid in the normal way. It is

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important to get that message out

there and monkeys bred this

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information. -- and not to spread

misinformation.

The vultures are

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already circling over the Carillion

contract corpses. Other companies

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have had profit warnings served in

the last six months. So what's due

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diligence has he informed officials

to take over other contractors?

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There is almost no exposure to the

rail sector through the companies

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that she mentions. The fact of the

matter is that these contracts have

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been in many cases reinforced and

improved on the roadside. You have

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joint-venture partners who are

jointly obliged to pick up these

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operations and will do so.

On

Monday, the Times newspaper said

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that the secretary's decision to

award lucrative contracts to

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Carillion is only the latest

worrying misjudgement to come to

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light. It highlighted his trip to

Qatar on the day of the biggest rail

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price hike in years, and his this

bunch in all dealings with trade

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unions and the private sector. The

Prime Minister needs to consider

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whether it is time that this

Transport Secretary left the

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station. Hasn't The Times got it

absolutely right?

Mr Speaker, the

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only station I'm going to be leaving

is used in station this morning on a

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visit to the Midlands. What I would

say to him is there has been no

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bailout of the Virgin Trains East

Coast, that the contracting with

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Carillion was not with an two but

with a consortium of companies were

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equally responsible for delivering

the contract. I'm happy to stand

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here and defend the record of a

government that has done more for

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the transport of this country than

the benches opposite did in

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government, which was very devil.

The treatment of small businesses by

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the Royal Bank of Scotland has been

described by an MP has the largest

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theft anywhere, ever. That charge

came as the Commons debated the

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bank's global restructuring group,

which has been accused of

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mistreating its customers by the

city watchdog, the financial conduct

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authority. The Royal Bank of

Scotland has apologised for Howard

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treated customers who ended up in

that group. But MPs demanded an

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enquiry and tougher action against

the banks. The MP who led the debate

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described the experience of one

constituent.

He lost his business,

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his home, his marriage and I think

it fair to say almost his sanity.

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His crime? Nothing more than being

an entrepreneur who banked with RBS.

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I will give way.

Could I thank my

honourable friend were giving way?

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Does my honourable friend agree with

me that the RBS global restructuring

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group had real cultural problems.

When their top tips include the

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phrase, sometimes you have do let

customers hang themselves. There is

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something clearly very wrong.

I

agree. Since 2008, we know that

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16,000 small businesses were put

into geology and the vast majority

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of them were liquidated. -- put into

the group. They were trying to get

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back into a position as a viable

business will top it was more like

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an abattoir than an intensive care

unit.

Customers had been carved up

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like a Sunday roast, he said.

We

know that many of the business is

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never made it back to mainstream

tanking. This is a very high

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proportion. The cost of this is

immeasurable, but we believe it to

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be in the tens of billions. Let's be

clear, this is the potential size of

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the injustice that has taken place

in our country. If it is this big,

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it may be the largest theft

anywhere, ever.

Many of our

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constituents who suffered in their

business interests and personal

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lives will need this enquiry and we

need justice for our constituents.

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The Treasury committee is

investigating the claims against

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RBS.

When I hear constituents say

that they will never trust a bank

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again, they will never ask a bag

again Paul Money, this should be a

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chilling moment for all banks

involved in working with SMEs.

They

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forced one company into

receivership. They engineered the

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form of the company by demanding

aggressive repayment plans, allowing

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insufficient time for value is to be

assigned to assess the company's

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assets. What does my constituent

have to do to get the money that was

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stolen from him?

A builder and

property developer who was courted

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for his business by Lloyds Bank into

thousands three, his accounts were

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managed locally and regionally. The

fateful decision was made to

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transfer his accounts to the Bristol

business support unit, and that's

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when his troubles began. Review

periods were shortened, repayments

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were doubled and at every single

stage, charges were added. He was

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told to sell some properties and to

use a value is who undervalued his

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properties systematically. When he

complained, his loans were called

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in.

If they did know what they were

doing, it amounts to theft of assets

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of people who were running, in many

cases, entirely viable businesses.

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Asset stripping is one of The Times

used to describe it. People have had

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their businesses destroyed by this

outrageous behaviour.

The front

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bench of the Government should have

heard loud and clear the strength of

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the link from all parts of this

chamber and beyond, because people

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will be shocked and will be

disappointed that this has been

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allowed to happen. It is

unacceptable that banks have

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devastated firms, spreading misery

by making people bankrupt and

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homeless will stop what happened at

RBS was nothing short of a scandal

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and was a disaster for the victims.

Businesses were ruined, family

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stormed a part and people took their

own lives and stop it is right to

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say that we will wait for the

conclusion of the SCA's

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investigation of the matter is

arriving before determining what

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further action needs to be taken.

On

the broader issue of dispute

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resolution, I remind the House of

the existing avenues open, but the

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FCA's continuing work to look at

that, and it is right that we wait

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for the next steps.

But MPs backed

for to call for an enquiry and there

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will be won at the end of the month.

You are watching Thursday In

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Parliament.

The anniversary of the inauguration

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of Donald Trump as the US president

has been marked in the Lords with a

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debate about how American foreign

policy has affected international

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affairs. A former Liberal Democrat

leader seemed far from impressed by

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the leadership of the latest

occupant of the White House.

Now if

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painfully to say, under resident

Trump, the most powerful of our

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number thinks that standing together

is less important than going it

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alone. That the application of

leadership and responsibility is

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preferable to getting engaged in the

international space. That collective

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action takes second place to America

first.

These to radically changed

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circumstances, how relationship with

the United States in entirely new

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ways. It is still special, in that

we share many core values, but it is

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quite different to the relationships

of the past. America is a partner in

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the new wage, but it is not our

boss. We do not need to be and must

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not become its obedient poodle, let

alone its guard dog.

One Labour peer

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felt Donald Trump had actually done

something valuable.

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When he attacks diplomacy and

slashes the budget of the American

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foreign service and the UN we can

see that this complex and dangerous

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world needs diplomacy. He may not

realise it, and he may never have

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intended it, but Donald Trump may

yet have revived and reinforced

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among thinking people globally that

there is a better alternative to the

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incoherent ravings of a very

temporary American President.

We

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will tolerate the foolishness. We

will tolerate the and predictability

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sight of necessity, not least when

seeking a trade deal with the United

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States. Who believes that the offer

of the presidents will be anything

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other than an attempt to secure the

interests of his core support across

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the United States? We will

inevitably lose influence with the

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United States. I believe in our

efforts, which may be successful to

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leave the European Union, we will be

losing influence with Europe, this

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is an unhappy coincidence.

We do

look to the United States of America

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to lead that that United Kingdom

should also look, look in the murder

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at our own ability to discharge a

supporting role. For a better

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definition of this rule forms the

context for our own national

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ambition, our own place in the

world, and a clearer understanding

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of the sort of Armed Forces we

actually need.

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Whatever feelings we perceive in the

administrations of another country

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it does not absolve us from our

responsibility to put forward ideas

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and initiatives of our own in

foreign policy, as the United States

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administration is undoubtedly doing,

whether or not we agree. We should

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be less preoccupied with the tweets

and habits of the President of the

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United States and more focused on

our own policies and strategies that

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we wish to pursue with the US.

The

UK has done historically and will

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continue to day to engage with the

US administration, issue by issue,

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policy by policy. It is a strong and

productive and important

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relationship and we will continue to

work as we have always done. We will

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use every tool of friendly

cooperation to persuade the US

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administration of the working of our

common interests and that allows us

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to have those candid conversations

when we disagree.

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In a report published earlier this

week MPs said it was clear that the

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Behrami 's military are continuing

to use rape and sexual violence as

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weapons of war against the Rohingya

people. -- it was clear that the

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military of Burma are continuing to

use.

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The cheer of the International

development committee gave the

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Commons a graphic description of

what has been happening.

Girls as

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young as five years of age have been

reported to have been raped by

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multiple uniformed actors, often in

front of their relatives. There are

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reports of rape being widespread,

violent, and accompanied by

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mutilation.

He was sceptical of the

idea that the Rohingya should be

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returned to Myanmar.

The idea that

the Rohingya could be returned to

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live in internment camps controlled

by the military of Burma is not

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acceptable. We welcome the

commitment of the UK Government and

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the swiftness with which that was

pledged. The Government of

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Bangladesh has told us however that

they expect the cost of effective

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provision of basic services for the

displaced Rohingya to total

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eventually more than £1 billion.

Particular attention must be made

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for a clear and decisive plan with

regards to any repatriation, not

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just on Security and safety, but

also the legal status of every

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Rohingya who is taking a voluntary

option to go back to Burma, and the

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international development agencies

need to have oversight at each

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stage.

He is right to say that

effort is to be any process of

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repatriation we need students about

the legal status that will be made

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available to any refugees. There is

a particular issue with babies that

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are born in refugee camps and the

status they might have if they are

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returned, and as well as the

governments of these two mackerel

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countries we need to listen to the

Rohingya themselves and we need --

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we -- as well as the governments of

both countries we need to listen to

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the Rohingya.

The largest camp,

which I visited with other MPs in

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November, as now equivalent in size

to a city the size of Bristol. It

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does not have a hospital, it does

not have adequate schools or roads,

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it is one of the most densely

populated refugee camps in the

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world. Whether the Rohingya are in

Burma or in Bangladesh the

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fundamental problem is that they are

stateless and until that issue is

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resolved their rights will never be

properly protected.

The committee

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has put a spotlight on an issue and

I want to assure the House that it

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is an issue of every single day

focus, not just the plight of the

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Rohingya that is happening at the

moment, and I was in Geneva last

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week to speak to international

organisations about that, but the

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need for a solution for them, and

that remains a priority for the

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Government.

In these have helped the

annual debate to mark Holocaust

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memorial day. The debate was opened

by a Conservative MP.

This year the

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theme is the power of words and it

is a reminder that the Holocaust did

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not start with gas chambers, it

started with hateful words, and that

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is perhaps of great resonance today,

as we consider the continuing blight

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of anti-Semitism and intolerance in

our society and sadly in our

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politics. I am proud as a Government

with strong cross-party support that

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we adopted the international

recognition of anti-Semitism which

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UK police forces are sadly having to

put to use more than they should

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have two.

In my view the Holocaust

was the single greatest act of evil

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in human history. I know historians

debate that, bit numbers dying at

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the hands of the Stalin were as

great, and the atrocities in Ukraine

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work of the unspeakable cruelty, but

the attempts by the natty regime to

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wipe out an entire ethnic group and

harness 20th-century technology to

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deliver murder on an industrial

steel seems without parallel. -- the

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attempts by the Nazi regime to wipe

out an entire ethnic group.

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Edgar was born in Budapest and in

1941 he lost his citizenship and was

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classified as an alien Jew. He was

sent to the Budapest ghetto. He was

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March halfway toward the real

waystation before he was told to

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return to the ghetto. There he was

forced to sleep in... His story is

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one small remembrance of the

barbarity of the Nazi regime. Edgar

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lives in Britain today and is still

shaving his story at the age of 87.

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I would like to pay tribute to his

courage and strength. It is

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something to behold the impact that

he has on school students and we

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must think about how we carry the

message forward when we no longer

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have survivors with us to give that

powerful testimony.

In October, we

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got this dossier. Lists of historic

crimes. Where have we heard that

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before? The language of

extermination has power because the

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ground has been prepared. The

propaganda of heat build suspicion

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and prejudice until ordinarily

people believe a complete and utter

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lie. The history of the Holocaust

teaches us that this kind of

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propaganda is allowed to breed in

communities and States, but lie that

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they create can be turned into

murder on an industrial scale. 6

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million innocent men, women and

children, brutally, horrifically

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murdered.

MPs have been told they must decide

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whether they can afford to justify

repairers to Parliament. The

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building is in a bad state of

repair. Several options have been

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suggested by a committee which

included either partially or totally

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moving out of the building while the

work is done. It is estimated that

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restoration could cost between 3.5

and £7 billion.

The Government

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approach to restoration has moved

from circus to farce. 18 months ago

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there was clear recommendations. If

this is to be taken seriously will

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she allocate a day? Make sure it is

substantial and amend the bowl?

It

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is astonishing that the honourable

gentleman is not taking this

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seriously. This is a matter for the

House. The House needs to decide

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whether the balance of taxpayer's

fiscal issues can be outweighed by

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the need to restore the Palace of

Westminster. It is properly a debate

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for the House and there is

governments time being given to

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that. Honourable members will

recognise that the Government has

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moved the date to a wet and stay for

the convenience of members who were

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very clear that they did not want

this debate to take place on

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Thursday, the Government is

facilitating a discussion and a

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decision by members of this House.

Other speakers said it was important

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MPs thought about the costs

involved.

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While people and organisations (

this country are having to make

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tough decisions will the Leader of

the House make sure that we exercise

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financial prudence in whatever

decision we make in relation to the

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future of this House?

That debate on

the restoration of Westminster will

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be held at the end of this month.

That is all for now. Join me on

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Friday night at 11 for a round-up of

the week here at Westminster.

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Goodbye.

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