09/02/2017 Timeline


09/02/2017

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Tonight on Timeline: It's Bafta weekend.

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We talk with film-makers hoping for a gong and find out where we're

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We ask who's to blame for dangerous dog attacks.

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And Andy Murray has been answering your questions.

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This week we've got hold of figures that suggest serious dog

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I've been hearing from one attack survivor who's

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now so scared of dogs, she's frightened to

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And we'll talk live with a dog expert who says councils

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are not using their dog control powers properly.

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Plus, as Andy Murray reveals plans to play Roger Federer in Glasgow,

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we ask the world number one, and dad of one, your questions.

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Any more children on the way? Not that I am aware of!

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Andy will be taking more of your questions later.

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First tonight, two film-makers from Scotland are up for a Bafta

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award this weekend for their short film about a community in India

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who live on the edge of a coal mine which has been on fire for more

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Bosnian-born Samir Mehanovic and Michael Wilson from Glasgow took

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a crew from Scotland to the open cast coal mine to

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Timeline went to meet them ahead of Sunday night's awards.

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This huge ecological disaster, people survive this. It is an

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incredible place, hard to believe it exists in the modern world.

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Longevity is about 50 years. It is so polluted and this does affect us.

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Jharia in East India is a site of a large opencast mine. People live

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around the edge, scraping together a living. I wanted to make a film

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about it. It is actually a British company that opened this and the

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fires have started in 1916 and they are still burning, the whole houses

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are collapsing. And the humans are dying from respiratory problems.

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The government wants to read highest them for a very small amount of

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money, we're talking about ?5 or ?10, and the worst of the coal is

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$200 billion so there is a big ecological disaster and political

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game. On the last day we filmed on the coal mines the police came and

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we thought they were going to shut us down. Again, our wonderful fixer

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had a big discussion with this policeman and who are desperately

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trying to film the scene before something happened and they shut us

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down. The police man went away and I said, what happened? He said, I am

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going around to his house for dinner tonight and I will pay him off. I

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was told early on, do not tell them the whole story, that you are going

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to India to make a film about child labourers because they will not like

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it so we had to edit the truth a little bit on the working visas. I

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was travelling first in Jharia and on a train journey I asked the

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gentle manner across from me if he knows any school or orphanage and

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could you point me to that, and I went and introduced myself and I did

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a workshop with the kids. And I had a choice of two of them, I could see

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one of them had some experience and the other boy had a better face and

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I went for the face, I looked at him and I moved my nose like this and he

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responded and that was it! This is a Scottish film with the Scottish crew

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and a Scottish production and we're very proud to say that I am half

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Scottish, and lower my kilt at the Bafta! -- I will wear my kilt.

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There is no question that Scotland has the capacity to have another

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studio. We have a studio facility at the moment but it is pretty much in

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use most of the time on the TV show. Outlander. I am working on that.

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They bring an American producer over and they fly them in a helicopter

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and show them Glencoe ad-blocking nest and they think it is incredible

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so where can we build the interior sets? There is no question that over

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the years we have suffered and we have lost on work because of the

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lack of a sound stages and it is time the government stepped up to

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the plate and did something about it.

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Well, best of luck to the guys for the Baftas.

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But what about this business of a Scottish film studio?

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Belle Doyle from the Association of Film and Television Practitioners

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Scotland is here with Natalie Usher, who's the Director of Screen

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at the Scottish government's arts agency, Creative Scotland.

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How long have we been talking about a Scottish studio? Probably about 30

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years. It might even be more. I think it has been a question people

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have asked for a very long time. It must be frustrating? Very

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frustrating. As Michael pointed out, he has a production manager. He

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knows that we're capable of as a nation I think, speaking on behalf

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of the crew in Scotland, who would love to have decent facilities that

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are permanent because that is what Outlander has managed so far. If we

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had two more Outlanders, think what we could achieve. Why is this taking

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so long? Well... The studio facility at Ward Park is a converted Studios,

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it was mentioned in the clip. What has been passed through the planning

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is an additional two purpose-built studios. Great news for Scotland.

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But we must remember that this is a commercial entity, the studio is

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owned by a private company and in that, as we know, is Outlander,

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returning television drama so what is important is the must find a

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point in the schedule when they can construct two studios. They must

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think of this as a positive and that will happen. It just needs to work

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for those commercial organisations. What we also have got is the

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Pentlands proposition which is going through the planning process. That

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was called in by the government. It has been with them for ages? It will

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be close to one year, really. You think a decision is due very soon?

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It is with the Scottish government planning team and we cannot

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influence that but we hope to have a decision very soon. That is a

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fantastic opportunity for Scotland and we that... There are other

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opportunities, there is a building in Leith, 160,000 square feet with a

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tank and 30 metre ceilings and infrastructure, gantries to support

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up to 20 tonnes. That is a sort of place where they can build sets so

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we are marketing that and hope to build large scale productions in

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Scotland and we have interesting enquiries. If that gets the

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go-ahead, will that do the job? That is fine but part of my job when I

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worked at Scottish screen, I was talking to people in America and

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everybody is very keen to come here and film but I think the problem is

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we cannot, if we cannot demonstrate some kind of commitment to sound

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stages and infrastructure, people start thinking we do not have any

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cruise facilities or postproduction here. Scotland becomes harder sell

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we're good at selling locations but we cannot really offer any at the

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moment that level of infrastructure where we start to build the crew and

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start -- stopped losing people to London. What do you want's we need a

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decision on Pentland, preferably by the end of February, it is supposed

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to be the 22nd, that is the deadline, and we would like to

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see... I think that the place in Leith is great but it needs a lot of

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money spent on it so we would have to have a big production there. We

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need something around Glasgow as well. Glasgow suffers because it

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does not have the facilities that it should. What would you say to those

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who work in this industry and who have moved to London and Hollywood

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and elsewhere? Why should they stay here? Want them to stay here and

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come back. What we're doing is we are trying to enhance the studio

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infrastructure and Buster is more to be done, we have already got the

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opportunity for the two soundstages at Ward Park, Pentland is there,

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there was a huge opportunity and not huge amounts of money needs to be

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spent, we would need to spend a degree of money on a production

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there but there are already gantries and rigs and IT and all of that

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infrastructure that is very important and makes it attractive

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and it is attractive to the people we are talking to and hopefully we

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will get a very big production there very soon but equally, we have

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managed to attract Churchill to Scotland, that was a Brian Cox

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production, we had Glenn close, Jonathan Pryce, Christian Slater, we

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had Trainspotting two. We need more. We are attracting big productions?

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We do agree on that. I think the frustrations for the crew are at the

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slowness of just how things happen in Scotland. What we would like to

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see is more like the Northern Ireland or Republic of Ireland

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approach, people say yes and they build it. Thank you both very much

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for coming in. To be continued... Do we need to be educated more

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on how to deal with dogs safely? This week a couple were jailed for

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12 months after their Japanese Akita attacked 60-year-old Sylvia Baillie

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in the face last summer. I caught up with her

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at her home in Paisley. All I could see was the dog's teeth

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coming towards me and grabbed me. It was from the year, around my jaw.

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And from there, I did collapse. And I passed out. You were at a funeral

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with your neighbours. Take me through what happened leading up to

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this attack. After the service, we came back, we never went to the

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wake, and Leanne invited us in. We did have a couple of drinks. We sat

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and we spoke and the dog was next to me, I was petting it, it was fine

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and it was giving me it's paw, I did not feel anything. Not intimidated.

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So I got up to leave and the way I leaned over the couch to pet the

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dog... Cheerio, I am away. It was fantastic all day. All I could see

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was the teeth coming towards me. And grabbed me. It was from my ear,

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right round my jaw. A plastic surgeon put 17 stitches on the left

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side of my face. Transferred me to the Southern General Hospital, where

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the ambulance had to stop twice because my blood pressure went very

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low. They would not show me my face. I was allowed to go to the toilet

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with my drip. I could see my face in the mirror. I was shaking like a

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leaf. It was not me in that error. It was like The Elephant Man. My

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face was swollen. I never went over the door for three months, I could

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not eat for ten weeks. Soup and ice cream. The doctor put me on

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different tablets to calm me down. I was still getting flashbacks. Do you

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think you will ever be able to approach a dog again? No, no. I

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cannot even visit my brother or my nephew. Because they have dogs. I

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used to have dogs. For years. By kids were brought up with dogs. My

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mother always had a dog. But, no, I would never approach another dog.

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Are you sure you did nothing to provoke the dog? It was said in

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court that he tried to kiss it? No, no. That is one thing. I never tried

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to kiss the dog. The couple who had the dog, it was their baby. They

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never checked that for anything. But they know about. Definitely, 100%

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record I did not bent down to kiss the dog. What would you like to see

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done? I don't want to take this out on the owners, I would like to see a

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dog on a lead at all times and if they know it is out of control, it

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should have a muzzle. It emerged in court that just two weeks before the

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attack, the dog had attacked somebody else. How did you feel?

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That dog should have been destroyed there and then another not be

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sitting here speaking to you. It would never have happened.

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Back in 2005-2006, there were 363 emergency admissions to hospitals

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across Scotland involving patients bitten or struck by a dog.

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But look how the number of cases has risen over the following decade.

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In 2014-2015, 652 people were taken into hospital,

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For the last six years councils have been able to issue

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notices or orders to make you control your dog.

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More than 1,000 have been handed out.

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But we've found the law is being used very differently

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So in Fife, for example, the council has issued 196

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Compare that with Glasgow where they've only issued three.

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In the studio now is Elaine Henley who's a dog behaviourist.

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Just three dog control notices in Glasgow, yet the rate of attacks in

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that area is rising. If the legislation working? The legislation

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is working, but it is not being implemented effectively across the

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board in Scotland. With the caseload that I have, because I work with

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people who have problematic dogs who are attacking other dogs, dogs who

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are attacking other people, my caseload for those problems is

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increasing drastically. It is surprising there are such

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discrepancies across Scotland with how many control notices are being

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handed out. One has to go into the local parks and you see professional

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dog walkers with eight, nine, ten dogs of lead, no control, rushing up

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to people and children. Is there any regulation for professional dog

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walkers? No, there is none. What about the local authorities? You

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have trained them to enforce the notices. What is it that they are

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not doing? Six years ago the Association offered their services

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to the Scottish Government to deliver a training package tailored

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for local authorities across Scotland in how to implement the new

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dog control notices. Part of that training was what is at problem and

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what is not? What useful steps they could take in their dog control

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notices in order to bring the dogs under control? One of the measures

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could be keeping the dog on a lead, muscling the dog. But also making

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sure that they had to seek counselling, behaviour modification

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therapy for the dog's problems. Come to someone like you. Yes. How often

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does that happen? In the last six years I have not had one single

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referral from a local authority in Scotland referring any dogs to me

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for rehabilitation of their behavioural problems. Why do you

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think that is? I think perhaps the councils are not effectively looking

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at the legislation and enforcing it. That is problematic, especially when

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given those figures. The incidences of serious injuries is increasing.

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We have to remember the serious injuries are the ones that people go

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into hospital for. People are less likely to go to hospital for a minor

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injury, but they are still being bitten. That might be a bite, a

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puncture, scratch, they are less likely to go to hospital and are

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more likely to go to a GP and a chemist. Sylvia said it was not the

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dog that is the problem, it is the owners, you would agree? No, I do

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not agree. Behaviour begins at conception, so things that happen

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even before the puppy is born May affect its future behavioural

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development. The most important time in a dog's life is between three

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weeks and 11 weeks. The most important time in a dog's life is in

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a breeder's has, it is where the dog learns about the world, a so-so

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ionisation period. The majority of that time is spent with a breeder

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and not with a caregiver. One of the few clinical animal behaviours that

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does puppy classes is me and I see puppies coming into my class at

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eight weeks of age with problematic behaviour. People post pictures of

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themselves on social media with their dogs. What do you see when you

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see dogs like that? What I see is dogs that are highly stressed, they

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would like to be away from the situation, they are displaying tense

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body language. But people assume dogs and children will all be at

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Disney dog and they will all be happy and we have to make people

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more aware of that. Thank you for joining us.

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I'm looking forward to seeing Rodger Federer in a kilt.

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You may remember he got kilted up when he announced he'll play

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Andy Murray in a charity match in Switzerland this April.

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Well, Andy's returned the request and Federer will now come

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to Scotland for the first time for Andy's showcase

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John Beattie has been to London to meet the World number one

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Tell me about being Scottish, what does Scottish mean to you? I love

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being Scottish, I am very proud of being Scottish. I am very attached

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to my home in Dunblane, the place means a lot to me. Yes, I like being

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Scottish. What we tell him about your country? What will you show

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him? His time is very precious, so he will not see much of it. In my

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opinion the people are fantastic, friendly, very welcoming to people

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coming to visit. Hopefully if everyone treats him well, it will be

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good. Your mum has put in an application about a tennis academy.

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How important is that? What would happen if it did not go ahead? I

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would be sad for my mum because she has put a lot of time and effort

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into it and she is doing it for all the right reasons. The Davis cup

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does not suit the top players in the schedule. Would you like to see it

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shifted? Not so much the schedule, I would rather have the format change.

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What would you like changed? If they played it on Saturday and Sunday,

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the crowds are not so good on Friday. The best of three sets on

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Saturday and Sunday would guarantee live matches every day. On Sunday

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the matches do not mean anything if you have a game on Friday. You have

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been drugs tested four times in the last three weeks. Why? You have

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never touched the stuff. No, but it is a positive thing. The more that

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drugs testing is done, the better to protect your spot. Do you think some

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people at the top do? At the top level in all sports there are

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issues. It is not a problem in one spot more than others and that is

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why drugs testing is so important, not just in tennis, but in every

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sport. Loads of questions. Any more children on the way? Not that I am

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aware of. Mike says, do you fancy a game in North Berwick? I have played

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there before, I used to go there with my family in handicap events

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and things. Yes, it was not pretty tennis conditions. Any special

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rituals before a match? Special rituals? No, not really, I used to

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listen to music, but not any more. What makes you sad? You are an

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emotional guy, I have watched you. Lots of things make me sad. In my

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tennis I do not like it when I feel I have not done myself justice or

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something like that. That upsets me. Losing I do not like, but if I feel

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I have played badly, then that makes me feel bad. If Lendl was at his

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peak, would you hammer him or not? I do not think I would hammer him, no.

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I think the surface would dictate the result is a bit. Would you ever

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come back to live in Scotland? A good question. I don't know. I am

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sure I will spend a lot more time there when I retire, whether I live

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there or not I don't know. That is a question more for my family. It

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depends if they are settled where we are just now. If you had one place

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to visit for one night in Scotland, you have had a bad day, it cannot be

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Dunblane, one night, one place in Scotland. I don't know. One place I

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would go? It would be dumb Blaine, that is where it would be. I have

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not been to loads of places in Scotland. It would be Dunblane that

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is where I would go. Are you happy? Future looking good? Yes, obviously

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last year was great. The first month of this year was OK. I would have

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liked the Australian open to have gone better, but yes I am in a good

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place. Physically I feel good. I took a little break after the

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Australian open. Hopefully I will be ready to go at the Indiana Wells

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Andy Murray, and looking forward to seeing him take on Federer.

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If you have anything you think should be on Timeline,

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then it's easy to get in touch through social media.

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As ever, we'll be keeping the conversation going

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Before we go though, we'd like to introduce

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you to BBC Radio Scotland's Young Traditional Musician

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of the Year, 21-year-old Charlie Stewart from Perthshire.

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Congratulations on winning, that must have been an amazing

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experience. It was a shock, have not got over it, but it was great. It

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was in City Hall in Glasgow, you were nervous? Yes, I was nervous.

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The worst was the sound check playing into this empty room where I

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have seen loads of bands and then being on the other end feels really

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wrong. But it was good fun. Has your new-found fame made a big difference

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this week? It has made a big difference to how many Facebook

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notifications I have got and a few more e-mails. Just trying to keep my

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head down and deal with it all. What made you put yourself forward in the

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first place? I was actually in the pub with a guy who won it last year

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and he was saying, no one has entered it, you should enter it. It

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turned out there were loads of people in my competition. I said,

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why have you done that to me? But I am glad he did. You want to make

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music your career, but you are still studying. Yes, this afternoon I did

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the sound check and I went back to study. You are going to play us out

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of the programme today. What are you playing us out with? It is a very

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old jig. Take it away. I will take it away. See you next week. Goodbye.

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I'm giving you the best advice that he knows, like a big brother.

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..from breaking the law in Scotland...

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