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Tonight... | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
Is there enough support for people
with rare forms of cancer? | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
And we go behind the scenes
at the theatre group that's launched | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
the careers of many Scottish actors. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
Welcome to Timeline,
where we've been visiting the drama | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
company breaking down barriers
in helping people into careers | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
on stage and screen. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
Also, the mentoring project
turning around young lives. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
And... | 0:00:50 | 0:00:56 | |
The Scottish hip hop star who's gone
from rapping to writing | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
with his new book picking
up rave reviews. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
How much support is there for people
with rare forms of cancer? | 0:01:07 | 0:01:12 | |
Kevin O'Neil is one of only 15
people in the world diagnosed | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
with malignant myopericytoma. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:21 | |
He lives with chronic pain
after surgery to remove a tumour | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
the weight of a large bag
of potatoes from his back. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
Kevin's trying to track down
the other people with the same | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
diagnosis so he can speak to someone
who knows what he's going through. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
Here's his story. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
You are told you are one of 15
people worldwide with a rare tumour | 0:01:49 | 0:01:55 | |
and you think it's like winning the
lottery, that type of thing. The | 0:01:55 | 0:02:00 | |
condition I have is called malignant
myopericytoma and I had a tumour | 0:02:00 | 0:02:06 | |
which started in the wall of my
chest here and it spread round to | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
the shoulder blade. What was
happening was that because the rib | 0:02:10 | 0:02:17 | |
cage was protecting the lung, the
Juma itself was forcing out Mike | 0:02:17 | 0:02:24 | |
shoulder blade and over a 12 week
period it came to the discomfort of | 0:02:24 | 0:02:31 | |
25 centimetres with 35 centimetres
deep and I had surgery to remove it | 0:02:31 | 0:02:36 | |
in a 12 hour operation. It I was in
a medical induced coma for two and a | 0:02:36 | 0:02:43 | |
half days. The majority of the ribs
were taken away, I have two small | 0:02:43 | 0:02:53 | |
ribs there and it is a complete
chest rebuild. There is nobody to go | 0:02:53 | 0:02:58 | |
to with such a rare tumour, there is
me and 14 elsewhere so how do you do | 0:02:58 | 0:03:08 | |
it? Facebook, Twitter, set up a
blog? But the whole idea is to try | 0:03:08 | 0:03:13 | |
to get five or six people who have
the same condition as myself, to be | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
able to say, how do you get by your
day and deal with the pain and | 0:03:17 | 0:03:22 | |
you're off days? Kevin's condition
come with it being so unique, one of | 0:03:22 | 0:03:31 | |
15 worldwide Comey does not have
that person he can sit and have a | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
copy with or talk about how he feels
on a day-to-day basis. -- have a | 0:03:35 | 0:03:40 | |
coffee. He had been ill for a number
of years, a number of which he went | 0:03:40 | 0:03:48 | |
undiagnosed and five operations
later and I thank my stars we still | 0:03:48 | 0:03:53 | |
have him. Kevin O'Neil? Hello. I and
three very senior colleagues removed | 0:03:53 | 0:04:03 | |
the tumour on his back and I've
never seen anything like it before | 0:04:03 | 0:04:08 | |
or since. He has been an incredibly
strong personality and his constant | 0:04:08 | 0:04:14 | |
positive attitude is really very
uplifting. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
I just think that when you see what
the nurses and the doctors and the | 0:04:22 | 0:04:28 | |
clinicians and everyone involved
with the NHS does on a daily basis, | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
it is just, it blows me away. They
have saved my life. I have too much | 0:04:32 | 0:04:43 | |
to offer still, I'm 48 years old, I
certainly would hate to be the last | 0:04:43 | 0:04:52 | |
thing, from items to lose their
father at an early age and I just | 0:04:52 | 0:04:57 | |
thought that I had to make sure I
get through this. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
Kevin O'Neil there. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
So should more be done to help
people with rare cancers? | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
Janice Malone is from
Macmillan Cancer Support. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:12 | |
Is that a typical story come is
there much support for people with | 0:05:12 | 0:05:18 | |
rare cancers like that? It is a
fairly common story for people who | 0:05:18 | 0:05:23 | |
have a rarer Cancer, to deal a
heightened degree of uncertainty as | 0:05:23 | 0:05:28 | |
to what the future might hold for
them and also to feel isolated and | 0:05:28 | 0:05:33 | |
alone because as Kevin said in the
film, there is nobody can talk to | 0:05:33 | 0:05:38 | |
about his particular experience. One
out of 15 in the world. And what | 0:05:38 | 0:05:43 | |
kind of support is there for those
people who are the only ones? There | 0:05:43 | 0:05:49 | |
is a huge amount of support out
there, for example at Macmillan we | 0:05:49 | 0:05:54 | |
have an online community which
allows people with a rarer cancer to | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
reach out to be for sometimes all
around the world who have a rarer | 0:05:58 | 0:06:03 | |
cancer. There are a number of
different support mechanisms, so | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
somebody with a rarer cancer can tap
into them also sometimes the | 0:06:06 | 0:06:13 | |
feelings and experiences of somebody
with a rarer cancer might be similar | 0:06:13 | 0:06:18 | |
to someone with a more common cancer
as well. We know that those types of | 0:06:18 | 0:06:24 | |
things, around your emotional
well-being, needing somebody to talk | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
to about how you feel, that is
important to people. Financial | 0:06:28 | 0:06:34 | |
worries are important to people, and
they will be similar across the | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
board. How big a help its online
support compared to one to one? It | 0:06:37 | 0:06:43 | |
depends on people's preferences. I'm
a big advocate for trying to make | 0:06:43 | 0:06:48 | |
sure we tailor the support to the
individual. Some people love the | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
online support and think it is the
right thing for them but others | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
would be preferring to sit down
face-to-face with somebody and | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
everything in between. Kevin
mentioned about writing a blog and | 0:07:00 | 0:07:04 | |
things like that, those are ways of
reaching out to people and they are | 0:07:04 | 0:07:10 | |
becoming more popular. People like
Kevin feel they are alone, so would | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
you consider setting up a rare
cancer group? Absolutely, and if | 0:07:13 | 0:07:18 | |
there are people out there in
experiencing that like Kevin and | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
they feel they are not getting the
support they need, come and talk to | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
us at Macmillan and we would be
delighted to have that conversation | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
and to see what we can do for
people. Thank you very much for | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
coming to tell us about that. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
It's given many Scots their first
taste of acting, with stars who've | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
gone on to appear in big screen
films, as well as small screen hits | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
like Burnistoun and River City. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
Now the drama group Toonspeak,
which provides access to the arts | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
to disadvantaged communities,
is marking 30 years | 0:07:47 | 0:07:48 | |
since it was founded. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
We asked Paul English to look
at the secret of its success. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:58 | |
Some things in the north of Glasgow
have changed in the last 30 years. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:05 | |
The red Road flats, once a marker in
this part of the city skyline, are | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
now long gone, but there is one
aspect of life here which remains a | 0:08:09 | 0:08:14 | |
towering presence. Social worker
Stephen King started Toonspeak young | 0:08:14 | 0:08:20 | |
people is that in 1987. Having grown
up in the area he recognised the | 0:08:20 | 0:08:25 | |
need for young people to be able to
express themselves through | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
performing arts. For a lot of young
people it was about building | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
self-confidence and being part of a
troupe, a community of people | 0:08:33 | 0:08:38 | |
working together. But for others it
was about imagining that ability to | 0:08:38 | 0:08:45 | |
be working in a theatre and in an
arts environment, a television | 0:08:45 | 0:08:50 | |
environment and to be able to
realise that. And many of them did, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:56 | |
including Stephen Purdon, better
known as shell suit bob in River | 0:08:56 | 0:09:04 | |
City. Iain Robinson also learned his
trade at Toonspeak. As well as | 0:09:04 | 0:09:11 | |
Anniston Star Luis student --
Burnistoun star Louise Stuart. We | 0:09:11 | 0:09:19 | |
went away on a workshop which was
almost like a therapy session as | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
much as anything. If you were
interested in the technical side you | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
could go behind the scenes, there
was encouragement of writing and I | 0:09:26 | 0:09:31 | |
always argued that performing art is
important because of those | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
communication skills and clarity of
diction, they are all important no | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
matter your line of work. The
majority of kids that went to | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
Toonspeak when we did not in the
industry, there is a variety of | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
jobs. My two best friends from
Toonspeak are a deputy headteacher | 0:09:46 | 0:09:51 | |
and a civil servant at the city
council but the skills and | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
confidence and communication skills
that they honed here... Tell me | 0:09:55 | 0:10:00 | |
about how important it was in your
day going to Toonspeak, that you | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
could access the art like that.
Having that place to go and finding | 0:10:03 | 0:10:07 | |
a tribe I think is quite important.
You can go to school and do your | 0:10:07 | 0:10:14 | |
thing but there is also that of
place that is equally as important | 0:10:14 | 0:10:21 | |
in terms of developing relationships
and social skills and I don't think | 0:10:21 | 0:10:26 | |
I would have went into acting
having, if there wasn't something | 0:10:26 | 0:10:33 | |
like Toonspeak, for sure. 30 years
on and it is still inspiring the | 0:10:33 | 0:10:41 | |
careers of young people both on and
off the stage. I love coming here | 0:10:41 | 0:10:47 | |
and just meeting everybody and
playing the games and acting. I | 0:10:47 | 0:10:52 | |
really like it, I have been coming
since it started. It feels like home | 0:10:52 | 0:10:56 | |
here, like you can not like to
anything but have fun with your | 0:10:56 | 0:11:02 | |
friends and all that. As the face of
this community changes, some things | 0:11:02 | 0:11:07 | |
remain as important now as they were
30 years ago and with Toonspeak | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
ready for the next act, that is good
news for the unknown stars of | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
tomorrow. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:15 | |
Jasmine Main chairs Toonspeak. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:20 | |
You have been through it as well. I
sneaked in when I was ten years old! | 0:11:20 | 0:11:26 | |
You're meant to be 11 so I told a
wee white light! And it launched | 0:11:26 | 0:11:31 | |
your own acting career that you do
you see in the groups you are | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
teaching the stars of the future? I
do and I think confidence and drama | 0:11:35 | 0:11:41 | |
is so much more than just
performing, it is life skills. It is | 0:11:41 | 0:11:46 | |
your social ability, your social
capital, to go to the shop and ask | 0:11:46 | 0:11:51 | |
where the milk is fixed confidence.
And for a lot of the wee ones we are | 0:11:51 | 0:11:56 | |
working with, they don't have that,
and it is also a safe space and time | 0:11:56 | 0:12:01 | |
for them to be creative and not
worry about what is going on. And | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
that was my safe space as well and I
was lucky to be able to go and do | 0:12:05 | 0:12:10 | |
other things. I know how important
it is. And how are you for money at | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
the moment? Are you wanting a tap?!
But it is hard at Toonspeak, we | 0:12:14 | 0:12:27 | |
offer the transport and we feed the
participants. That is one of the | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
biggest issues of the moment.
Funders, everybody wants to fund | 0:12:30 | 0:12:37 | |
exciting stuff but for that to
happen we need to get the young | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
people safely through the door and
that sometimes means picking them up | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
at the front door and making sure
they get there. And for us that is | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
one of the main issues, myself as
chair of the board, it is that I am | 0:12:48 | 0:12:54 | |
keen to make sure it continues over
the next 30 years. It is such a | 0:12:54 | 0:12:59 | |
difference. And what would you say
to people who are looking at | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
different projects to fund, and say,
that is nice but it is the icing on | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
the cake and not a core priority
project? I think it is so much more, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:13 | |
and if you can imagine and you can
problem solved, that is all that in | 0:13:13 | 0:13:21 | |
there for anybody, come along to
Toonspeak and see what you think and | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
look at the projects. I know when
they walk through the door that the | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
young people have got them and I
have every confidence. It is about | 0:13:27 | 0:13:34 | |
being creative but also so much more
and it is your life skills and your | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
safe place and having that can make
so much of a difference and the | 0:13:38 | 0:13:43 | |
potential with young people, you can
see it within two weeks, a month, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
you can see the change. Thank you
very much for coming in. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
And that's not the only project
helping young people tonight. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
That's right. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
Let's look at another
initiative designed to help | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
disadvantaged youngsters
realise their potential | 0:13:59 | 0:14:00 | |
through mentoring. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:04 | |
MCR Pathways partners an older
mentor with a young person who's | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
struggling at school. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
It's been so successful at a Glasgow
school that it's now being rolled | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
out to the rest of the city
and will soon come to | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
other parts of Scotland. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:16 | |
Timeline went to meet two
young men who benefited. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:22 | |
Ayew OK telling us some of the
challenges you had growing up? When | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
I arrived in Scotland, England was
not my first language. My first | 0:15:01 | 0:15:07 | |
language was Portuguese. I never did
primary school, or even the third | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
year. I started from the fourth
year. I had challenges growing up. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:17 | |
Homelessness, the care system,
Eamonn McCann after five of us on | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
her own. I lived with two brothers.
We did not have mum or dad. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:28 | |
Sometimes you felt you needed a
cuddle from ma'am. Every good thing | 0:15:28 | 0:15:33 | |
that happened, you braced yourself
for something bad to happen. Coming | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
from Angola, how difficult did you
find it to embed in the Glasgow | 0:15:37 | 0:15:43 | |
culture? Music was different,
environment was different, | 0:15:43 | 0:15:49 | |
everything was different. What was
your confidence like? I would come | 0:15:49 | 0:15:56 | |
into school, head down, not looking
or talking to anybody. I just wanted | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
to get in, get lunch and get home.
That led to me going in a primary | 0:15:58 | 0:16:08 | |
four level, reading and writing.
Your head was all over the place, | 0:16:08 | 0:16:13 | |
rather than focused on the
classroom? I would definitely say | 0:16:13 | 0:16:18 | |
that now. Why did you not feel you
could go to further education? You | 0:16:18 | 0:16:23 | |
needed certain grades and I did not
have that. To have that you had to | 0:16:23 | 0:16:29 | |
do exams, which I could not do
because I never had the national | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
five. So I was like, after school,
that's the end, nothing else to do. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:41 | |
What is life like now? For me, I
would say it is a thousand times | 0:16:41 | 0:16:46 | |
better. I am doing an HND. And I see
that there is a door opening. What | 0:16:46 | 0:16:54 | |
is your lifelike now compared to
your life as Young Liam? Not bad, | 0:16:54 | 0:17:00 | |
quite different. I am not homeless.
That is a positive. I graduated two | 0:17:00 | 0:17:05 | |
years ago. Which is amazing, given
you were four years behind when you | 0:17:05 | 0:17:14 | |
join secondary school.
How do you feel about the programme? | 0:17:14 | 0:17:21 | |
I have been doing it for two and a
half years. Something that is | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
important for the young people who
need some extra help. Why did you | 0:17:25 | 0:17:30 | |
get involved? I realised there were
a lot of young people in the school | 0:17:30 | 0:17:36 | |
who were in the same classrooms,
with the same teachers, but | 0:17:36 | 0:17:41 | |
education outcomes were so much
worse. We quickly realised it was | 0:17:41 | 0:17:45 | |
because of their background and home
situations, rather than their | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
abilities. So we spoke and spent a
lot of time with those young people, | 0:17:48 | 0:17:54 | |
of which you were one, to find out
what the challengers were, and more | 0:17:54 | 0:17:59 | |
importantly the solutions that we
would actually put in place to | 0:17:59 | 0:18:04 | |
support young people like yourself
that had experienced a disadvantaged | 0:18:04 | 0:18:09 | |
background, to allow them to get to
a place that they can engage better | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
with the education system and what
it has to offer. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:21 | |
Afonso And Liam with their mentors. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
Iain MacRitchie is the
founder of MCR Pathways. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:28 | |
What does the mint or actually do?
We get asked the question of how can | 0:18:28 | 0:18:33 | |
we see a change in those young
people, 48% going to college, | 0:18:33 | 0:18:38 | |
university or a job after school, up
to 80%. Believe it or not, it is | 0:18:38 | 0:18:43 | |
breathtakingly simple. What we ask
is that our mentors come to school | 0:18:43 | 0:18:48 | |
and first and foremost it is just
about listening to those young | 0:18:48 | 0:18:54 | |
people, building a relationship,
empathising, one of trust. Before | 0:18:54 | 0:19:00 | |
moving on to, what is the potential
of the young person? At the moment, | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
our young people are too much
defined by their circumstances, the | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
difficulties they experience at
home. Our programme is simply about, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:13 | |
you will be defined by your talent
and potential. Then it is a focus | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
of, what could you do? Go and try
stuff. It is about building | 0:19:16 | 0:19:22 | |
confidence and self-esteem. Is on
the danger that for young people are | 0:19:22 | 0:19:26 | |
just feels like another adults
telling them what to do? It does, | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
but our programme is about equality.
For example, we do not tell the | 0:19:30 | 0:19:35 | |
mentors about the young person's
past. It is focused on what they | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
could be in the future. The young
person decides and chooses to become | 0:19:38 | 0:19:44 | |
part of the programme. It is
completely voluntary. We have found | 0:19:44 | 0:19:48 | |
there is as much impact on the
mentors as there is the young | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
person. It just ends up being a no
lose situation for any party. Should | 0:19:51 | 0:19:58 | |
charities be picking up the slack
for a service that councils should | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
provide? I think the best, nation is
both. The skills that charities | 0:20:02 | 0:20:08 | |
bring in terms of understanding the
communities, a local need in | 0:20:08 | 0:20:13 | |
particular, needs to work in the
mainstream. We could not do what we | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
do outside the school system. It has
to be within the school system, and | 0:20:16 | 0:20:21 | |
there is a fabulous partnership
between what we have with Glasgow | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
City Council and the schools. Thanks
for coming in. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:29 | |
If you have a story to tell
or if there's anything you think | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
we should be following
up, let us know. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
You can get in touch
through Facebook or Twitter, | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
you can find us online,
or you can email us - | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
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Look forward to hearing from you. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:42 | |
Shereen. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
What do you know
about paper cutting? | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
I thought it's what happens
when you cut yourself | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
opening an envelope. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:52 | |
Ouch! | 0:20:52 | 0:20:53 | |
But, turns out it's an art form
which has proved pretty successful | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
for Dundee-based Boo Paterson. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
Like many artists she's
found it a struggle | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
to make that breakthrough,
but her hard work has paid off | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
with the launch of a book designed
to enable others who want to get | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
into paper cut art. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:18 | |
This is a piece called Seasick,
which I created in response to the | 0:21:18 | 0:21:25 | |
first wave of refugees drowning in
the Mediterranean. I was imagining | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
what it would be like to drown. I
started paper cutting when I was | 0:21:29 | 0:21:33 | |
three or four, and I used to make
paper sculptures out of print paper. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:39 | |
As an adult, I became a journalist
on the straight from school and I | 0:21:39 | 0:21:44 | |
worked in that industry four-year
is. But whilst also working in | 0:21:44 | 0:21:49 | |
cabaret and circus. I ran away with
the circus, actually, to Australia. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:54 | |
And many of the Anna Moore 's I love
from Australia are in the book. When | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
I came up with the idea for the book
I was extremely poor and I wanted to | 0:21:58 | 0:22:03 | |
think of a way out of that
situation. I am now ready to cut. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:09 | |
The general rule is to start in the
middle and work your way out. This | 0:22:09 | 0:22:14 | |
is one of the easy ones. I made the
book so that it started off very, | 0:22:14 | 0:22:20 | |
very easy and it gets harder as it
goes on. The principle of the book | 0:22:20 | 0:22:25 | |
is to have people doing art. I think
that was the great success of the | 0:22:25 | 0:22:31 | |
colouring books. It meant that
people who were not good at art | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
could do it. We can see one of my
earlier works, which is called art | 0:22:35 | 0:22:42 | |
vultures. It was basically the only
thing that was feeding me. They took | 0:22:42 | 0:22:49 | |
away my working tax credit because I
was not earning enough. I made this | 0:22:49 | 0:22:54 | |
work out of the working tax credit
rejection forms. I am primarily a | 0:22:54 | 0:22:59 | |
political artist. The plight of
refugees in particular in forms much | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
of my work. With that in mind, the
book is actually a real departure | 0:23:03 | 0:23:08 | |
for me. In a way, that kind of
commercial illustration is the | 0:23:08 | 0:23:13 | |
graft. The stuff that you do because
you feel it deeply is almost | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
effortless. There is the finished
artwork. And now all we need to do | 0:23:16 | 0:23:26 | |
is to do the relief. When you are
holding a scalpel, you definitely | 0:23:26 | 0:23:31 | |
concentrate more acutely. It is that
focus which gets you into a flow | 0:23:31 | 0:23:37 | |
state, which children are
infrequently when they are playing, | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
when they do not know there is time
passing. Back to the book, and | 0:23:39 | 0:23:44 | |
choose a piece of colour for the
mount. And you can stick this on, | 0:23:44 | 0:23:49 | |
either with the spray mount, all
with foam squares. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:56 | |
Boo Paterson there. | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
You thought it was about making
paper aeroplanes. A beautiful | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
artform. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
He's a newspaper columnist,
a broadcaster, and a star | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
of the Scottish hip hop scene. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
But Darren McGarvey,
also known as Loki, has added | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
a new string to his bow. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:12 | |
His first book is about to be
published, called Poverty Safari, | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
with rave reviews already | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
from the likes of JK
Rowling and Irvine Welsh. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
Darren's here now. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:27 | |
High praise, Darren. Tell us what
the book is about. For me, it has | 0:24:27 | 0:24:37 | |
three central ideas. The experience
of poverty, which is not often given | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
enough space or airtime to be
vividly described in such a way that | 0:24:41 | 0:24:46 | |
people who have not experienced it
can understand it. Secondly, a | 0:24:46 | 0:24:51 | |
critical analysis from the
perspective of a working-class | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
person who has engaged with services
and institutions, a critical | 0:24:53 | 0:24:58 | |
analysis of what I call the poverty
industry. I am not slagging off | 0:24:58 | 0:25:02 | |
charities or public institutions. I
think there is a great -- a lot of | 0:25:02 | 0:25:08 | |
great and important work going on,
but there are issues around how the | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
institutions engage with
working-class people and involve | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
them in discussion. Often, they
parachute into communities like an | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
imperial force, viewing housing
schemes as primitive cultures that | 0:25:18 | 0:25:23 | |
need to be upgraded. The third part
focuses more on my own personal | 0:25:23 | 0:25:29 | |
journey of recovery and how a lot of
the issues in my life, health | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
problems, poverty, homelessness, a
lot of that began to improve not | 0:25:33 | 0:25:37 | |
just when I engaged with public
services but when I started to take | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
more responsibility and be more
honest about my own problems. So the | 0:25:41 | 0:25:47 | |
book oscillates between a memoir and
social critique with those themes. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:52 | |
It is very powerful. If it is not a
crass question, tell us what it is | 0:25:52 | 0:25:57 | |
like to be poor. First of all, you
don't really know you are poor until | 0:25:57 | 0:26:02 | |
you go somewhere that is not poor. I
described this in the book, my first | 0:26:02 | 0:26:07 | |
journey to the west end of Glasgow.
Anyone from a working-class | 0:26:07 | 0:26:11 | |
community has an idea about the west
end. The first thing I noticed was | 0:26:11 | 0:26:15 | |
how calm it was. I was like, OK,
this is how people dress when they | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
are not afraid they will be stabbed.
It was this serenity that I had | 0:26:19 | 0:26:25 | |
never known. For me, that was the
fundamental difference. Not so much | 0:26:25 | 0:26:30 | |
the affluence, the money, but the
stress levels. The stress levels | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
were lower in the affluent
community, so it was easier to | 0:26:33 | 0:26:38 | |
negotiate compromise, to be more
socially mobile. In the community I | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
come from, everyone carries this
emotional baggage all the time. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:47 | |
Conflict. Conflict. When you are
stressed, you are in fight or | 0:26:47 | 0:26:52 | |
flight. When you have a community
and families dealing with stress and | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
the unhealthy coping strategies that
arise from that, you start to | 0:26:56 | 0:27:00 | |
understand what you mean by social
immobility. It is not necessarily | 0:27:00 | 0:27:04 | |
just about money. It is about stress
management, emotional awareness and | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
literacy. To a certain extent, that
can involve people taking a bit more | 0:27:08 | 0:27:15 | |
responsibility for how they
emotionally react to things, the | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
things they put in their body, how
it changes the way they behave, | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
their mental health. I talk from a
position of experience, so not | 0:27:20 | 0:27:26 | |
pontificating about stuff I have not
been through. To what extent do you | 0:27:26 | 0:27:31 | |
think individuals and communities
can make a difference, rather than | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
waiting for the government to come
and help? First of all, I would like | 0:27:34 | 0:27:39 | |
to in courage people in this
condition, in this culture of | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
tribalism, and I understand where it
has come from and I am not making a | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
value judgment about any group,
whether people on the radical left, | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
or political parties on the
mainstream right or left, but really | 0:27:50 | 0:27:54 | |
we need people in this country who
understand multiple ways of looking | 0:27:54 | 0:27:58 | |
at things and are able to
communicate between multiple tribes, | 0:27:58 | 0:28:02 | |
to try and not so much build a
consensus, I do not want to be | 0:28:02 | 0:28:08 | |
involved in a political discussion,
but I want to go into communities | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
and say, yes, we need to change the
system, rail against corruption and | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
deal with social inequality, but
also we need to challenge each other | 0:28:15 | 0:28:19 | |
about the violence in our
communities, the regressive social | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
attitudes in our communities, and we
have to do that without being | 0:28:22 | 0:28:27 | |
accused of blaming poor people.
Because ultimately, in working-class | 0:28:27 | 0:28:31 | |
communities there is an appetite for
people to take responsibility. And I | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
think I have the ground when it
comes to that stuff. -- I have my | 0:28:34 | 0:28:39 | |
ear to the ground. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:44 | |
The book is called Poverty Safari. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
That's your Timeline for this week. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:48 | |
Thanks for watching. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:49 | |
Shereen and I will be back next
week, same time same place, | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
when we'll have an interview
with the actor and presenter | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
Ross Kemp, who's been
inside Barlinnie prison | 0:28:55 | 0:28:56 | |
for a new documentary. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:57 | |
So do please join us then. | 0:28:57 | 0:28:59 |