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Tonight:

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How traditional Scots lingo

could mean we're better

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at languages than we thought.

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Plus, we speak

to Ross Kemp about going

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behind bars at Barlinnie.

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Welcome to Timeline,

where we'll bring you the story

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of Scottish cycling legend

Robert Millar, who's speaking

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on TV for the first time

about transitioning, and is now

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living as Philippa York.

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She has caught up with a giant who

she helped to inspire.

Hello, nice

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to meet you.

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We'll bring you that meeting

between Phillipa and Sir Chris Hoy.

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Also,

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100 years since the Russian

revolution shook the world -

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we look at its impact on Scotland.

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I am Ross Kemp, I'll be talking to

Glenn on Timeline about my time in

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Barlinnie.

That is for a TV show

that we'll have more on later.

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How many languages can you speak?

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One, I'm ashamed to say.

The same

for me.

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Research at Abertay University

in Dundee has found that our brains

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handle our local dialect and English

in the same way as if we speak two

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different languages.

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That means all of us

could be more linguistically

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skilled than we realised,

as Kenneth Macdonald has been

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finding out for us.

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11th.

Could you please repeat that?

11.

Our Scottish accents have always

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tended to cause a bit of bother.

Good you please repeat that?

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Here in Dundee, people speak with

more than accent.

Hiya.

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more than accent.

Hiya.

I'll say

SPEAKS IN THICK DIALECT.

Thanks

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romance, buyer.

This isn't a

roundabout, it's a circle -- thanks

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very much, the buyer. It isn't the

Telegraph, it is the "Tele". Dundee

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Scots even influence other cultures

and some say that Dundonian is more

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than a dialect.

It is a language all

of its own, every Dundonian speaks

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it. Every Dundonian is bilingual,

they can slip between standard

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received pronunciation in English

into Dundonian very quickly.

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Let me get back to you on what that

means? At Abertay University they

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have found that Dundonian may not be

a separate language but the brain

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handles it like one. Our test

subjects, Ollie, is not a native

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Dundonian speaker so first he must

learn some.

Moose, tatty.

He does

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well on the Dundonian words but

hesitates when he switches back to

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English.

The representation of

Dundonian in his mind is weaker than

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for his English. How that manifests

in the task is that when we ask him

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to switch into a Dundonian word, he

has to do suppress his dominant

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English from intruding. That takes

them longer to overcome so when he

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switches back to English, it takes

longer.

Some psychologists think

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that being bilingual actually

improves your cognitive powers but

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at Abertay, they don't say it will

make you brainier. The findings may

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have indications for psychology

itself.

We aren't capturing the full

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story, a lot of people will report

that they speak a bit of French or

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are fluent in German but won't

consider whether their knowledge and

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use of Scots is worth mentioning on

a question like that. In terms of

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implications for research, they are

quite cute.

Meanwhile, Dundonian

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Scots remains in done both -- in

robust health.

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It is said that mill workers

developed it to make themselves

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heard over the noise of the

machinery.

Three, four, five, six,

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seven, eight, nine, ten.

When you

are growing up, were you aware that

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you were speaking something

different from what was spoken in

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other parts of Scotland?

Not until

many years later. You say DUNDONIAN

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ACCENT: seven.

My mother felt she

didn't want me talking Dundee so she

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sent me to Eric Kush and lessons

when I was tired. I don't know if

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that was a good thing -- electrician

dilly

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sent me to elocution lessons.

One

last thing, the answer to the

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expression, there are two items

here, there is a plain one and one

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from Dundee. Getting the hang of

this!

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Let's get another

couple of phrases -

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this is one used in Shetland.

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No idea.

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It means mocking a person in good

fun.

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And here's one from Dumfries.

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She said don't do something just

yet?

That's all I got.

Don't speak

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so confidently and cheerfully about

it just yet.

What kind of sayings do

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you have?

I don't know about local

dialect but quite a lot of words in

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the Gaelic language were used and my

favourite would be one that my mum

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used, she would say, what they...",

meaning what they mess. -- what a

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mess.

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Robert Millar is considered

Scotland's greatest-ever road

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cyclist, winning the King

of the Mountains prize

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in the Tour de France in 1984,

making him a hero to many,

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including Sir Chris Hoy.

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But after gender transition

she recently announced she's

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living as Philippa York,

and has started working

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as a cycling commentator.

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We brought Phillippa

and Sir Chris together for this

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film, by Rhona McLeod.

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Now let's turn to a sport which, but

for one man would in all possibility

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would have never featured in this

review of 1984. The sport is cycling

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and the man is Robert Mueller from

Glasgow. -- Robert Millar.

There are

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so many facets to transitioning, so

many decisions to make.

Was it an

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additional pressure, the fact that

you were one of the world's top

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sports people?

I was very aware that

it could turn into a media circus,

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the fact that I was transitioning

and a couple of years afterwards

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which is one reason I removed myself

from the public eye, I basically

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disappeared.

You had a couple of

brushes with the tabloid press.

I

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did, a couple of intrusions into my

transition at the start. And at the

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end, they were quite damaging.

Hello, the leather.

What a hero you

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are -- hello, Phillipa.

Every time I

see my name on back straight there.

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Walking down to the panel, the

Manchester velodrome, I think you

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were the National Road coach at the

time and it was the national

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championships and you walked past

and you said, well done, champ. 5-1

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my first national title.

I was nice

to you. -- I had just won my first

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national title. Now I'm thinking, I

meeting you, Chris Hoy! Making me

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cry again.

I do that when I'm

getting medals, I blame it on the

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flowers, allergies! I think she has

no idea how many people she has

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inspired. You can see in the track

centre, people shaking her hand,

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saying they had seen her on telly

and she was getting emotional. I was

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surprised that she was emotional

about people being nice to her. It

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was the courage and gutsy Ness and

determination on the mountain stages

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that made you work hard on your

bike. Having a practice session, you

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would try and emulated Robert

Millar. Countless athletes and

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cyclists have been inspired by her

performances, 30 years ago.

The BBC

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Sport 's personality of 1984, the

king of the Mounties, stage win of

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the Tour de France, another flying

Scot, from Glasgow, Robert Millar.

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If you had to make the choice again,

if you could make the choice, would

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you have transitioned before?

Yes, I

would have transitioned in my

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teenage years. And I wouldn't have

been a cyclist.

You wouldn't have

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had the fame?

I wouldn't have been

famous, information, whatever I'm

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known for.

Is that because you were

very happy?

Yes. -- infamy. The

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thing that counts is and how famous

or not famous you are going to be.

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Basically, are you happy? That

counts more for me now than any kind

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of success.

Happy with?

Happy with

where I am, yes. Not perfectly happy

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because I don't think perfection

exists but yeah, I'm fairly stable

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where I am and happy, yeah.

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Tom Bishop is a director

of Scottish cycling,

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and their Equality Champion.

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What kind of support is there in

cycling for somebody who makes that

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transition?

We are a very inclusive

and open sport. We are multifaceted,

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a lot of different angles. We are

lucky with cycling that it is

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different to the other sports where

for example you can't dribble a ball

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to work but you can cycle to work so

it is a transport means and it is a

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basic lifestyle skill. Within

Scottish cycling, we are there to

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receive everybody with open arms and

to welcome them in. People who are

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transgender, who have specific

sensitivities, that we would be

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there to receive, and quite frankly,

we are all learning about this in

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society in general.

When it comes to

a sport, can a man transitioning as

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a woman compete on the women's team?

When the transition is complete,

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that is the case. Obviously there

are the questions people might have

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about that. To my knowledge there is

no evidence to suggest that there is

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a difficulty with that, when the

transition is complete.

It might

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potentially be an advantage?

It

might be but at the moment I don't

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believe there is any evidence of

that but of course, the question is

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there. We have to be prepared for

that. It is something that the

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sports governing bodies have to be

mindful of going forward, as a

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society does, we have to make

adjustments and have to be

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reasonable adjustments. At the same

time, we need to engage with the

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LGBT community. I'm delighted to say

that today, sport Scotland and a

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number of government bodies and

sports associations have signed up

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to the Scottish LGBT charter,

through the quality network.

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Yesterday it literally happened. I'm

the ambassador for equalities in

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Scottish cycling. We are going to be

brace it and learn about it.

Thank

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you for joining us.

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Still to come on Timeline: My

encounter with TV hardman Ross Kemp,

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about his latest assignment behind

bars at a Scottish jail.

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And the balance of power between

prisoners and guards.

If you fall

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out with the present staff, you can

have your canteen taken away from

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you. You can fall out with the

inmates and your life could become a

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living hell.

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With credits including

Blue Planet and Planet Earth,

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Doug Allan is regarded as one

of the best wildlife

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cameramen around.

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Don't just take our word for it.

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Here's Sir David Attenborough.

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Captured in animal behaviour in this

extreme and sometimes hostile place

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takes a very special kind of

wildlife cameraman. And for me, they

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do not come much more special than

Doug Allen.

I must be mad!

High

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praise from Sir David Attenborough.

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Well, if that praise

wasn't enough, Doug,

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who's originally from Dunfermline,

is to be given an award

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for Outstanding Contribution

at the Scottish Baftas this weekend.

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Doug is in our Bristol studio.

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Congratulations.

Thank you.

How do

you go from Dunfermline to diving

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under the ice sheets in the

Antarctic?

You actually go through

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the red Sea, would you believe? I

got into diving at school, and then

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that took me to university at

Stirling, and then various

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expeditions and one expedition was

to the Antarctic. I was diving as a

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scientist and diver in the Antarctic

when the great Sir David and a film

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crew turned up back in 1981. I

helped them for a couple of days and

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decided that it was something that I

wanted to get into. And the rest is

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history.

It is indeed. 30 years of

history and you have filmed a lot of

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wildlife in that time. What are the

moment and animals that stand out

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for you?

I have done a lot of stuff

in the polls, so I guess encounters

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with polar bears and big mammals

underwater. Those are really

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exciting because they sure that

every single mammal is an individual

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just like you or I, so getting the

chance to know these animals as

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individual characters, that is

really exciting because you need to

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get to know them if you're going to

get the best out of them on a film,

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particularly underwater. You can't

hide from while if you want to film

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it, so the only way is to get in the

water with it, have it except you as

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another interesting thing in its

environment and then it's just get

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on with his natural behaviour. I

think the close proximity I have had

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with Wales underwater and the sheer

excitement of working with polar

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bears in the Antarctic, that is a

hard one to beat because polar bears

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are a big, sexy, charismatic and

they will eat you, what more can you

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want?

Do you have a get into

dangerous situations?

I prefer to

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describe them as exciting

situations, put it that way. You

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need to do. There are times when I

have been close enough to a polar

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bear and the polar bear has gotten a

little bit too interested in me, I

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have had to get out my birthday

which is kind of like a hairspray,

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and give it a squirt in its

direction and when that pepper spray

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heads the beer's knows he is off

like a shot, so that was exciting

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and then there was the classic Wall

is that grabbed me underwater, I was

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sparkling, no idea and out of the

depths as walrus grabbed me around

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the legs and luckily I was able to

hit it on its head with the camera

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and it was probably pretty surprised

because that is not the sort of

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thing that seals do, because

basically the Wallace have confused

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me with a seal. I hated on the head

and let me go and I lived to tell

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the tale.

We are glad! How do you

feel that getting the BAFTA?

That is

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magic, and is always something

special when it comes from your

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peers are so to speak and the fact

that it comes from my Scottish peers

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makes it all the more than an hour.

I am really looking forward to

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Sunday.

Enjoy it! Thank you very

much for joining us tonight.

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If you have a story to tell

or if there's anything you want us

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to follow up then it's

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You can contact us

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you can find us online

or you can email us.

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Look forward to hearing from you.

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It was one of the defining moments

of the 20th century -

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seeing a bloody end

to the Russian royal family,

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and the start shortly afterwards

of the Soviet Union.

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The impact of the Russian revolution

was felt all around the world.

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70,000 Scots took to the streets

in support of the revolutionaries.

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We asked historian,

Brendan McGeever, to make this film

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about how what happened there,

affected events here.

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The Russian Revolution, one

of the defining moments of the 20th

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century.

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The collapse of an empire,

the overthrow of the czarist regime

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and one of the most extraordinary

demonstrations of people power and

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democracy.

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The revolution's reverberations

spread far beyond

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Russia, and they could be felt

here on the streets of Scotland.

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What do you know

about the links between

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Scotland and the Russian Revolution?

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I know a lot about the Russian

Revolution but I never knew we had

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any influence.

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I don't know anything about that.

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I saw a thing on the TV

about Brian Cox and talking

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about the support that the West

Coast of Scotland gave to the

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workers in the Russian Revolution.

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In early May 1917, just

as revolution is escalating, around

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80,000 workers come out on the

streets of Glasgow for mayday.

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There are red flags

and American support

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of the Russian Revolution.

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As the Labour Party use

people at the time,

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Glasgow is the British Petrograd.

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The Clyde and the River Neva

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linked together by the

bonds of brotherhood.

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Doctor Terry Brotherstone

is an expert on the

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history of the socialism

movement in Scotland.

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To what extent can we say

that the Russian Revolution was felt

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on the streets of Scotland?

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In Glasgow there where

rent strikes against

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profiteering in the war,

in

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1915 you saw the shop stewards

movement developed in the

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engineering factories,

determined that workers conditions

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would not be worsened

because of the requirements

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of the war economy,

and then in 1970 onwards

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across the country there

was

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increasing weariness and quite a lot

of unrest in engineering factories,

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and it was into that that the whole

Russian Revolution came.

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John Maclean said

the Russians, a Russian

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comrades have begun it,

we are part of it, you have got

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to be supporting them.

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John McLean was born

in Pollokshaws in 1879, a

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schoolteacher, he also let

because of socialism in Scotland.

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He was imprisoned for

his political beliefs.

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John Maclean made enemies

in government but he made friends

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among the working classes,

and in revolutionary Russia as well.

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The socialist movement

in Scotland took

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great interest in events in Russia,

and the feeling was mutual.

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Scotland cut the imagination

of the Russian

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revolutionaries, and

articles about Scotland

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would regularly feature

in

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the Bolshevik press.

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In December 1918 the

Bolshevik newspaper Pravda

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wrote, Russian workers

enthusiastically hope that John

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Maclean and his friends

come to power.

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Vladimir Lenin, Leon Trotsky

and other Bolshevik leaders held

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John Maclean in the highest regard,

so much so that shortly after the

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October Revolution of 1917 the named

John Maclean Bolshevik consul for

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Scotland.

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In February 1918, John Maclean

took up office on 12 S.

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Portland St in Glasgow, the first

Soviet consulate in Britain had now

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been established.

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John Maclean was celebrated

across revolutionary

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Russia, his name was

read aloud in Bolshevik

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gatherings all over

the

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Soviet Republic.

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Streets were named after him,

in fact, to the state,

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there is still a Maclean Avenue

in Midwest Russia.

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A Soviet postage stamp was even

issued to commemorate

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him.

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After the Bolsheviks came to power,

John Maclean wrote, Marxism

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is growing rapidly in Scotland,

nothing can hold back.

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I favour a Scottish

Communist Republic with

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Glasgow as its head and centre.

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War, inequality and

poverty were central

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to the events of 1917,

and they remain crucial

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issues in the world today.

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As the Russian Revolution

reaches its centenary, society

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remains as undivided as ever.

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Brendan McGeever there

on the 100th anniversary

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of the Russian revolution.

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He's the TV hardman who's

travelled to some of the most

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dangerous parts of the world,

from Afghanistan, to searching for

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pirates off the coast of Somalia.

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Now Ross Kemp, who became famous

as Grant Mitchell in Eastenders,

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has taken on one of Scotland's

toughest prisons for his latest

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programme, in Barlinnie.

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So how did this assignment compare?

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I've been chatting

to him to find out.

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I'm Ross Kemp, and I'm going to

prison.

We have just under 100,000

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people in prison right now, not the

highest it's been but very close to

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it.

We have sent a lot of people to

prison for short sentences and for

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instance in Scotland I think it is

something like 60% of people who

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serve three-month prison sentences

will be back in prison within six

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months.

Having been inside a prison

like that, a big prison, what are

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the conditions like?

Convert to El

Salvador, compared to the Congo, a

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lot better. But prisons are still

present. People who say they have it

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easy because they have a TV, TV is a

very important thing in prison in

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the United Kingdom because it can be

used as a stick, basically, if you

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abuse a prison that back the prison

rules it will be taken away from

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you. If you spend a lot of time

locked up in your cell, maybe 23 or

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22 hours, that becomes very

important to you. And yes, three

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meals a day, sometimes the choice of

the courses, and I have the prison

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food and help make it with the aid

of a canoe paddle, and the food I

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have to say in Barlinnie was a lot

better than some of the food I have

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had in national health specials. But

prison is still prison and there is

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also, if you fall out with the

prison staff, you can have your

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canteen taken away from you. You can

have your recreation taken away from

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you. You can be fined financially

and you can't phone your family. You

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could fall out with an inmate and

your life could become a living

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hell. So there are sort of like two

laws, to rules within every prison,

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virtually I have been to.

Ross James Kent.

What is your date

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of birth?

21st of the seven.

How

tough are they on drugs inside?

If

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you're found with drugs it depends,

it is the amount of drugs that you

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have on you. It can be just as I say

a fine, removal of things that give

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you pleasure like the television or

access to the canteen suites,

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scripts etc, it is just the way that

drugs are sent in. Even to

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Barlinnie, a lot of them are thrown

in using one of those dog slippers,

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inside the tennis ball. You can get

500 or 700 small street Valium pills

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in there and you have to bear in

mind that drugs inside a prison cell

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for five times what they are worse

on the street. To the point that it

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is worth some inmates going to

prison on purpose in order to sell

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drugs.

Was there anyone you met in

there who you thought did not

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deserve to be inside?

To be honest,

no, and a lot of the repeat

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offenders were very open about the

cycle that they are trapped in. If

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you are not changing the causes and

reasons for their being in prison in

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the first place they are not going

to stop going to prison. Without

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being too big about it, I think

maybe we have to look at the way

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that we sentence people, and also

our approach to people when we meet

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them and find out they have been in

prison. And how much of a chance we

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get them. I am not asking people to

give chances to multiple marketers

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here, but people who, there are some

people who rely on Barlinnie, as

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soon as they get released they

walked down the road, people into

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the shop, the bias much beer as they

can with their £73 they get given,

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and the next day they commit an

offence they can go back because

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they have nowhere else to go because

they have become so

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institutionalised, and we have to

look at is prison the best place for

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them? There are definitely people I

met there who I felt should be there

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and should remain there because of

the threat they pose.

Let me ask you

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about your investigative or more

generally because you do seem to go

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to some of the most dangerous places

in the world, why's that? Why are

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you attracted to those a pure fluke,

I was on an actress contract to ITV

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and was asked to stand and present,

I was fifth choice, I know that

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because someone had already been

asked of us sitting next to me in

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two days later a bang up and said

you're the first person we thought

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of.

So that is how it happened. It

moved from there to being about

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Afghanistan and being about bigger

issues, mass migration, human

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slavery, drugs, big issues that have

an impact on everyone, really.

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Eventually they all have an impact

on everyone no matter how much you

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think you are removed from whatever

is happening around the world. It

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generally comes back at some point

and lands on your plate.

And Grant

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Mitchell your character in

Eastenders keeps coming back.

He has

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been back twice.

Again?

Never say

never.

Thank you.

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That programme is called

Ross Kemp Behind Bars -

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Inside Barlinnie, and it's on STV

at nine o'clock tonight.

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And that is your timeline for this

week.

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Thank you for watching. That went

fast! We will be back next Thursday

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at 7:30pm and we hope to see you

there. Goodbye for now.

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