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Hello - and welcome to the programme on the day Theresa May makes

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a U-turn and announces she wants a General Election on June the 8th.

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Labour MPs condemn the change of heart.

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What I cannot understand from what the Leader of the House

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has said today is how any of this makes things clearer.

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But ministers argue an election is necessary.

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To provide the clarity and the stability that the entire

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United Kingdom needs.

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Also on this programme.

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The foreign secretary tells MPs the US military response

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to the chemical attacks in Syria was necessary and appropriate.

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And...

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What will Brexit mean for the UK's creative industries?

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But first, it's rare for political secrets not to spill out somewhere -

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but there was genuine surprise around Westminster when journalists

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were called to Downing Street and Theresa May announced she wanted

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to hold a general election on June the 8th.

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The hastily assembled reporters could be forgiven for not

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expecting the PM's big news, given that Mrs May has

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repeatedly rejected the idea of going to the country before 2020.

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In her statement she explained why she'd changed her mind -

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and said MPs would vote on Wednesday on her proposal.

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Under the Fixed Term Parliaments Act two-thirds of MPs must

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back her for Parliament to be dissolved.

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Mrs May set out why she now felt an election was needed.

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At this moment of enormous national significance,

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there should be unity here in Westminster.

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But instead there is division.

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The country is coming together, but Westminster is not.

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In recent weeks Labour have threatened to vote

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against the final agreement we reach with the European Union.

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The Liberal Democrats have said they want to grind the business

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of government to a standstill.

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The Scottish National Party said they will vote

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against the legislation that formally repeals Britain's

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membership of the European Union.

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And unelected members of the House of Lords have vowed to fight us

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every step of the way.

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She said that jeopardised the work to prepare for Brexit and weakened

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the government's negotiating position in Europe.

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Division in Westminster will risk our ability to make

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a success of Brexit.

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And it will cause damaging uncertainty

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and instability to the country.

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So we need a general election and we need one now.

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Because we have at this moment a one-off chance to get this done.

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While the European Union agrees its negotiating position

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and before the detailed talks begin.

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I have only recently, and reluctantly, come

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to this conclusion.

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Since I became Prime Minister I have said that there should be no

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election until 2020.

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But now I have concluded that the only way to guarantee

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certainty and stability for the years ahead is to hold this

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election and secure support for the decisions I must take.

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Theresa May - making her big surprise announcement

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in Downing Street.

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Well a couple of hours later the leader of the Commons,

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David Lidington, explained to MPs what would happen now.

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He confirmed there'd be a 90 minute debate,

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followed by a vote on a motion proposing an election

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on June the 8th.

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The Shadow Leader of the House argued the Prime Minister's

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announcement had broken a previous promise.

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This is a massive U-turn because at least seven times,

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most recently on March the 20th, the Prime Minister has ruled out

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an early general election.

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The Prime Minister said, I'm not going to be calling a snap election,

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I have been very clear that I think we need that period of time,

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that stability, to be able to deal with the issues that the country

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is facing and have that election in 2020.

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Clearly this government cannot be trusted.

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I have to say I don't recollect any previous Labour Prime Minister

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announcing a general election on the floor of

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the House of Commons.

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My right honourable friend this morning went about things

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in the time-honoured fashion.

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What she is putting to the country is the case for this government

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to go forward on the basis of a clear mandate to provide

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the clarity and the stability that the entire United Kingdom needs.

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It is not actually in the gift of the Prime Minister's side

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whether there is a general election or not, it will be this House.

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And if Her Majesty's opposition don't want a general election,

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can't face it, are worried about annihilation, they will not

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vote for it tomorrow.

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I agree completely with my honourable friend.

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I thank the leader of the House for his short

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but incendiary statement.

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We on these benches are hearing that this was not the time

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for these type of big decisions and the sole focus of this

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government should really be on their hard Brexit.

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This Mr Speaker is one of the most extraordinary U-turns

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in political history.

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And the Fixed-term Parliaments Act as we know is the biggest waste

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of this House's time possible.

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The calling of the general election now returns to a Prime Minister

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and the interests of party now come before the interests of country.

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The Prime Minister wasn't for calling a snap general election,

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but now she is, perhaps sensing a political opportunity.

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The choice to go for an election now is hers and hers alone

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as it was the choice of a hard Brexit.

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Will the Leader of the House make time available before the general

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election campaign starts for this House to be able to discuss

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the party of government's failure on the NHS, tackling violent crime,

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and dealing with people with disabilities and their benefits?

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I am astonished, Mr Speaker, that the right honourable gentleman

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on behalf of the Liberal Democrats was able to talk about political

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opportunism with a straight face.

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It was a decision that the Prime Minister alone has to take to put

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forward the motion tomorrow, but it will be a decision for every

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member of the House of Commons tomorrow when we meet to decide

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whether or not that is approved.

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Can we find time in what is left of this Parliament to have a debate

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about why she decided to trigger Article 50 and then throw the entire

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planning into doubt by then calling a general election which will waste

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at least three months of the precious, small amount

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of time we have left to get the best deal for Britain?

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Mr Speaker, far from throwing things into doubt,

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what the Prime Minister's decision has done is to provide,

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assuming that the people return the government,

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and it will be a choice for the people to take,

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that there will be the clarity of having a mandate behind

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the Prime Minister and her government to deliver a successful

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negotiation over the course of, and implemented over the course

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of a five-year term.

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Will the leader confirm that should the legislation pass tomorrow,

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what we're doing is voting for a new Prime Minister for just

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two years over Brexit, but for a new Prime Minister

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for the duration of a Parliament of five years.

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Many of us are expecting therefore that either the current

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Prime Minister or the leader of the Labour Party will walk

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through the door of Number Ten post June the eighth.

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Could he encourage my right honourable friend the Prime Minister

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to go head-to-head in as many TV debates with the Leader

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of the Opposition as possible before June the eighth?

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In calling a snap election is it seriously the view

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of the British Government that a UK election will really change the EU

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27 negotiating position?

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If so, Mr Speaker, is it not guilty of living in a land of fantasy?

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I think that what will be important is that newly elected leaders

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in France and in Germany will meet a newly re-elected Prime Minister

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of the United Kingdom, all of them with the confidence

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that they have mandates from their voters as they approach

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those negotiations in a constructive spirit.

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What I cannot understand from what the Leader of the House

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has said today is how any of this makes things clearer,

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makes us feel more stable.

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More secure.

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This, all I ask is how does this look to people outside.

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And as somebody who came from outside, it looks

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like political opportunism.

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David Lidington said he hoped people would believe the Prime Minister

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was seeking a mandate for a government to carry

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through challenging and ambitious European negotiations.

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Well just ahead of those exchanges the Shadow Chancellor

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John McDonnell accused Theresa May of breaking her promises

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by calling an early election.

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His attack came at Treasury questions - where MPs

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had their first chance to react to the news in the chamber.

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The Chancellor, Philip Hammond defended the decision to ask

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the Commons to back the date - and he attacked Labour,

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saying the party remained "as fiscally incontinent as ever".

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Mr Speaker, as you know this morning the Prime Minister has called

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the general election.

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She is breaking her commitment to not holding an early election

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made only weeks ago.

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She has blamed Brexit, she has blamed our European neighbours,

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she has blamed the parties on these benches.

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But the real truth is that after seven wasted years

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of failure under the Tories, they have failed to close

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the deficit, they have added 700 billion to the national debt,

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pay is falling behind prices, 4 million children

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are growing up in poverty.

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Our schools are in crisis, more people than ever

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on NHS waiting lists, more families homeless,

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more elderly people not getting the care they need.

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Will the Chancellor use this last opportunity before the election

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to apologise to the British people for the utter failure of this

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government's economic policies and for the pain he has inflicted

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on this country?

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Well, Mr Speaker, the honourable gentleman has got some brass neck

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to stand there and accuse us of having failed to eliminate

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the deficit, when his policy is to add another ?500 billion to

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it overnight.

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The British people understand very well what is going on here.

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A Conservative government which is maintaining growth,

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which has got unemployment down, record levels of employment.

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And a steadily closing deficit.

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And a Labour Party which remains as fiscally incontinent as ever

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and if given a chance, would wreck this economy once again.

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There we have it, Mr Speaker, not one word of apology.

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No contrition whatsoever from a Chancellor who has

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broken his promises to the British people and still failing to deliver

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on a manifesto elected only 23 months ago.

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They're entering this election having scheduled ?70

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billion of tax giveaways.

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For whom?

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For the super-rich and for the corporations

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of the next five years.

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They're entering an election with a 2 billion unfunded

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black hole in the budget.

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That the Chancellor delivered only a few weeks ago.

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So will the Chancellor now use this opportunity before the general

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election to put on record his party will rule out raising VAT,

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rule out raising income tax, and will he commit unequivocally

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to support legislation to protect the triple lock?

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If the Tories cannot be straight with the British people,

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Mr Speaker, Labour will be.

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Mr Speaker, the truth is promises made from that side of the House

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are not worth the paper they're written on and the voters of this

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country, the pensioners of this country, the workers of this

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country, understand that very well and they will give their verdict

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on Labour's promises on June the eighth.

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Can the Chancellor tell us which will be first to go

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in the upcoming Tory manifesto?

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The pledge on international aid spending, the triple lock,

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or promise not to raise any new taxes?

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Mr Speaker, I'm afraid the honourable gentleman will just

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have to contain himself and ready his money and he will be

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able to buy a copy in due course.

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Philip Hammond.

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The US military action in Syria was a "necessary,

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appropriate and justified response to an awful crime",

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the Foreign Secretary has told the House of Commons.

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Boris Johnson was giving details to MPs on the evidence linking

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the Assad regime with a chemical attack on the Idlib province.

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Mr Johnson said the US Secretary of State had contacted the British

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government asking for political support - but said it would be

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difficult for Britain to say no to a request for practical support

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in the future.

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Mr Johnson also updated MPs on the political

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situation in North Korea following a failed missile test.

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The Foreign Secretary called on China to use

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its influence with the country.

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He began his statement paying tribute to Britons who had died

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in tragic circumstances in Stockholm and Jerusalem.

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Chris Bennington was among four people who died in Sweden

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when a truck was driven into pedestrians

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on the 7th of April.

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Hannah Bladen was stabbed to death in Jerusalem on Good Friday

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in a senseless attack.

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Our thoughts and prayers are with their families.

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He laid out what was known about the Syria chemical weapons attack.

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We know beyond doubt that to Sukhoi 22 aircraft took off from Shara

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airfield where we know chemical weapons are stored.

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We know that they were overhead at 6:39 when according

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to eyewitness accounts, the attack took place.

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We know from shell fragments in the crater that not only had

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sarin gas been used, but sarin gas carrying the specific

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chemical signature of sarin gas used by the Assad regime.

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We were given advance notice of the operation but at no stage did

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the US administration ask for UK military help, only

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for political support.

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Advance warning was given to Russian military personnel

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who were co-located with the Syrian air force at the same place

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to minimise the risk of casualties.

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The government believes that the US action was a necessary, appropriate,

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and justified response to an awful crime.

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He moved on to North Korea.

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The regime is now developing intercontinental ballistic missile

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is which would be capable of delivering a nuclear strike

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on the mainland United States.

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These weapons have not yet been fully tested,

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but no one can be complacent about the potential

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threat they pose.

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Yesterday I spoke to my Chinese counterpart Wang Yi and I urged him

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to use Beijing's unique influence to restrain North Korea

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and to allow a peaceful resolution of this crisis.

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He ended last week disowned by Downing Street, ignored by Russia

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and humiliated by the G7.

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The only straw he can cling onto, we presume, is this.

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That the United States State Department is still telling

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him what to say and do and which countries

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he is allowed to visit.

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The Foreign Secretary rightly condemns the ongoing nuclear

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and missile programmes being pursued by Kim Jong-un's regime.

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I hope he will agree that, like Syria, this is a crisis

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which can only be resolved through coordinated

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international action, through the de-escalation tensions

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and ultimately through negotiations.

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So can he assure us that Britain will argue against any unilateral

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military action taken by the United States and instead

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urgently back China's call for the resumption

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of the six party talks?

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When it comes to North Korea the world needs statesmanship,

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not brinkmanship.

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The US air strikes on the Shayrat airfield and the demonstration

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of the unpredictability of the Trump administration, which many fear

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will only cause further escalation of the conflict,

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in their rush to congratulate the administration on the recent air

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strikes, did the UK Government consider the repercussions?

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Until now, coalition aircraft have operated with relative freedom

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against Daesh in eastern Syria.

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Now Russia has suspended its US Russia air operations accord

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and the Assad regime will likely activate its extensive air defences.

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The skies above Syria will therefore be much more dangerous for UK pilots

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while Syrian civilians on the ground will suffer even more.

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Could I invite him to put pressure on the United States to try and dial

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down the public rhetoric?

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There is an element in which North Korea is something

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like an attention seeking child.

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It happens to belong to somebody else, in this case China.

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And whilst the United States has proper responsibilities

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to the other nations in the area about their security,

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ratcheting up the rhetoric with North Korea is probably

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the wrong way in publicly dealing with them.

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The chair of the Foreign Affairs Select Committee, Crispin Blunt.

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You're watching Tuesday in Parliament, with me,

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Alicia McCarthy.

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Fashion industry leaders have told MPs that the UK's departure

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from the EU could put their haute couture designs at

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risk of being copied.

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Representatives of British clothes designers, giving evidence

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to the Culture Committee, explained the current

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system of rights.

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That allows at the moment within the EU for you to

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disclose your design, which of course is quite

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often done at trade fairs or at London Fashion Week itself.

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And the EU registration around that covers not only

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specifics around design, but surface pattern as well,

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which is very important, particularly in terms

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of the designer sector.

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Now, it is because this has to be disclosed first within the EU

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that our deep concern is that post-exiting the EU those rights

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wouldn't be recognised.

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If you were to disclose your collection at London Fashion Week,

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for instance, that those rights won't be protected.

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And all those copyright issues that tend to arise,

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particularly through the high-end designer sector won't

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necessarily be protected.

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That means it is a real challenge for London Fashion Week

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because everyone is going to want to be able to protect their designs

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as best as possible.

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I have got my trademarks registered under EU trademarking.

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It gets renewed every so many years.

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I don't know what that means now when we are out of it.

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And I protected?

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So you have to have a lot of economies registered,

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trademarks on this EU trade, intellectual property

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right, which are going to have to be unravelled.

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So it is a mess.

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You know, but with every situation like this there are opportunities

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and so it really requires fresh thinking, but innovation

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from the Government and really thinking about how you compete

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and it requires investment.

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94% of everything on the High Street is imported.

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70% of everything on the High Street is imported from non-EU sources.

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So if you take a country like Bangladesh, for instance,

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when we bring in just over ?2 billion worth of garments

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wholesale, if we move from the current GSP free access

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to those markets, the tariff rates on goods coming in from Bangladesh

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are going to go up by 25%, because that is the WTO

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most-favoured-nation tariff rate.

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So that is our second largest supplier of all clothing in the UK.

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And on top of that the exchange rate, we could be talking 45% more

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expensive in terms of stuff coming into the UK.

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So it is less the time delays, it is more the cost implications.

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And those sort of figures apply whether you are talking

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about Bangladesh, Turkey, where we will go from 0% to 12%.

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You asked one of the questions about whether Brexit would see

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a resurgence in UK manufacturing and that is absolutely

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an opportunity for us, but if you take for instance

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the manufacturing community within London, there is about 13,500

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manufacturing employees making high-end fashion products in London.

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Over 70% of the people on the machines in those businesses

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are from EU countries.

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So there is a real concern that we are going to lose that level

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of talent down there, so we need to do something,

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we need the Government to do something around changing the way

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we can bring in those talented seamstresses and cutters

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and all that sort of stuff, so they are not seen as low value,

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a lot of these people won't be earning ?35,000 Home Office

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threshold for permanent residency for instance.

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But without them, the fantastic creations that get sent down

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the catwalk at London Fashion Week wouldn't happen.

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And one MP just couldn't pass up the chance of some

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free fashion advice.

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Final question, you have got four MPs in front of you,

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there is 650 MPs in the House of Commons, how do you

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rate our fashion sense?

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LAUGHTER You don't have to answer that!

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There is only one wearing a pinstripe!

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That's why I'm here, to judge you guys in the suits.

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I have to say, I am very intrigued...

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The collar on my shirt, yes.

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That is a very distinct collar but I am known for.

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Maybe we need to...

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Maybe we should get you one, yes.

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For me, at least, I have scanned, I have measured

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everyone as I have come in.

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It is a weird nuance, you know?

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Oh, dear, well...

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We will move on from that very quickly!

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You probably don't want me to answer that.

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Although I am wearing a...

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No, I looked at the tie immediately.

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Finally, there are a handful of bills that will fall

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by the wayside if Theresa May gets her way and a general election

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is held on June 8th.

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There are a handful more which are likely to have their most

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controversial parts filleted out of them in order to get them

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through in some form before this Parliament comes to an end.

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Among them is the Finance Bill, which was being debated

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in the Commons for the first time.

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It deals with such things as personal tax rates,

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tax evasion and controversially includes a proposed

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rise in probate fees.

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The minister set out the Bill's ambitions.

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We are very clear that our taxes and the system underpinning

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them need to be fair, competitive and critically

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they must be paid.

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This finance Bill will take the next steps in helping to deliver a fairer

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and more sustainable tax system, one that can support our critical

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public services and get the country back to living within its means.

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The government had proposed raising some national insurance rates

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for the self employed, but later withdrew the proposal.

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So an SNP MP wanted to know.

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Where are the ?2 billion per annum to replace the non-raising

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of the National Insurance contributions is going to come

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from if she is so wedded to balancing the books?

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Well, the Chancellor was clear at the time that in the statements

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we have made about the budget and subsequent decisions

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that we are looking to balance the budgets across the period.

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Clearly we are going into a General Election campaign

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that we will have more to say about that in the manifesto

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and we will lay that out there.

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This isn't the place for that.

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A Labour frontbencher looked at the government's record.

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When coming to power, the Conservatives committed

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to balancing the books by 2015.

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A Conservative broken promise.

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They said it would be pushed back to 2019-20.

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Another Conservative broken promise.

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Instead by 2020 they planned to be borrowing an eye

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watering ?21.4 billion.

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And since 2010, ten of the 14, ten of the 14 government Budgets

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and Autumn Statements have seen an increase in forecast borrowing.

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This government's record of borrowing is seen missed

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target after missed target with constant upward revisions.

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Labour's Peter Dowd.

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And that's it from me for now, but do join me at the same time

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tomorrow for the highlights of prime minister's questions and of course

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that all important debate and vote on Theresa May's proposal

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for a general election on June the 8th.

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But for now from me, Alicia McCarthy, goodbye.

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