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Hello and welcome to the programme.

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Coming up in the next half hour:

Labour accuses the Government

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of treating Parliament

with contempt.

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Transparency and accountability are

two words this Government does not

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understand.

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There's a cross-party welcome

for new measures to protect

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babies during childbirth.

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Anyone who has been involved in

birth knows that even the healthiest

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pregnancy can go wrong at the last

minute.

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And deja vu for one

former party leader.

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I must say, I noticed one or two

policies in the budget that looked

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somewhat familiar.

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But first,

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how will leaving the EU

affect the economy?

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That's the question

behind the controversial

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Brexit impact statements.

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The history of these is a bit

tortuous, but in a nutshell,

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the Government prepared a series

of papers setting out how Brexit

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would affect 58 different sectors.

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MPs wanted these papers to be shown

to the Brexit committee,

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and voted accordingly.

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So ministers said

they'd hand them over.

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And they have done.

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But not in their complete form.

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Cue the Shadow Brexit Secretary.

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Transparency and accountability are

two words this Government does not

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understand. On the 1st of November,

after a three-hour debate, this has

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voted in favour of a humble address

requiring all 38 sectoral analysis

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is to be passed to the Brexit Select

Committee. Not some reports, not

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redacted report, the full ones. The

Government did not seek to amend the

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humble address, nor did it vote

against the motion. After your

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advice, the Government accepted that

the motion was binding. It is simply

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not open to the Secretary of State

to choose to ignore it and to pass

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to the Select Committee the

documents that he chooses. Whether

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he is in contempt of Parliament is a

matter we will come to at some later

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date, but he's certainly treating

Parliament with contempt.

We have

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not edited or redacted reports. At

the time the motion was passed and

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subsequently, we were clearly

documents did not exist in the form

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requested. We have collated

information in a way that doesn't

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include some sensitive material, but

the documents which he admits he

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hasn't seen do not contain

redactions. It is noticeable that

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the original suggestion of

redactions in the debate on the 1st

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of November came from him. He also

said in the debate that he had

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accepted all along that the

Government should not put into the

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public domain any information that

would undermine our negotiating

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position, and there is a level of

detail and confidential issues and

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tactics that should not be

discussed. Statements that the Right

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Honourable and learn it gentleman

made during the debate itself.

If

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the wished to resist the publication

of the paper as it had, it should

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have voted against the motion. If it

wished to qualify or to edit the

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papers that it had, it should have

sought to amend the motion. And we

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cannot allow post-Brexit to start

reducing the parliamentary

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sovereignty to a slightly ridiculous

level.

In June, the Secretary of

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State said on the Andrew Marr show

that we have nearly 60 sectoral

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analyses already done. In September,

this was reiterated in the response

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to my Freedom of information

request. In October, the Secretary

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of State confirm this to our

committee and said that the reports

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were in excruciating detail and the

Prime Minister had seen the

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summaries. In November, we heard

that they never existed. On what

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basis, Mr Speaker, that completed

reports be uncompleted and on what

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basis is it right that the

Government do anything other than

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did the reports in full to the

Select Committee in line with the

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resolution of this house?

The

Government has provided the report

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covering 58 sectors to the Select

Committee and I look forward to the

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Select Committee being able to

scrutinise those in detail, but I

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say to the honourable lady, she has

been resisted in pressing for as

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much of this information as possible

to be put in the public domain. Her

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front bench have also been

persistent in recognising, but not

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all of the information subject to

negotiations could possibly be done

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without damaging our national

interest.

Can remind the minister

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that the question of what the

Government will provide to the

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Select Committee is not for the

Government or indeed for the Select

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Committee to decide. This Parliament

has decided, and there is no

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discussion, no debate, no

negotiation, as to the extent to

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which that decision will be complied

with. It must be complied with in

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full.

I made it very clear to the

Secretary of State what procedure

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the Select Committee would use to

consider the reports, and I may put

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it like this, do object to any

suggestion that the Select Committee

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of which I was chair cannot be

trusted to do that job.

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But one or two MPs wondered

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if select committees

could in fact be trusted.

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Does the Minister share my concern

as to how a letter sent by the

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Secretary of State to the committee

managed to reach journalists at the

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daily Mirror? Does that encourage

him or discouraging when it comes to

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sharing confidential information.

My

honourable friend raises a very

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interesting point and of course all

leaks should be taken extremely

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seriously.

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Several Conservative Brexiteers came

up with a suggestion.

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It was a mistake not to amend the

opposition motion, and as a result

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the Government is now skating on

very thin parliamentary ice. The

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issue can be solved next week if the

Government would come back with a

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sensible motion which every member

in this house really ought to

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support.

As with other honourable

friend, I take his suggestion very

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seriously.

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And after that debate,

the Speaker suggested

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in quite a forceful way

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that the Brexit Secretary should

have a chat with the Brexit

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Committee as soon as possible.

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Now, the Chancellor has been accused

of favouring London and neglecting

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other parts of the country

in the measures

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outlined in his Budget.

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The criticism came at Treasury

Questions at the start of the day.

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The Chancellor will know that even

after the budget that the Southeast

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and London will still have a

disproportionate share of the

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infrastructure spending. Could the

Chancellor undertake to give an

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annual report to Parliament which

will detail both be spending but

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also the likely economic impact of

that spending across different

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regions?

It is a legitimate

question. Much of this

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infrastructure investment will have

impact across the country, for

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example investment in HS two will

benefit parts of the North of

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England far more than it will

benefit many of the area through

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which the railway will run.

Mr

Speaker, what specific impact of the

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Chancellor think a 1 billion

two-year grant that is equivalent to

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the one he gave to Northern Ireland

would have on regional economic

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growth in, for example, my

honourable friend for Barnsley

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Central, Sheffield city region?

There are many things that we can

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invest in every region of the

country and I am pretty confident

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that I could take £1 billion to any

region of the UK and invest it in a

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way that would enhance productivity

and stimulate economic growth.

The

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Bank of England deputy governor

recently argued that Brexit could

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lead to a sharp step down in the

UK's productivity growth. This is

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likely to hit regions in different

ways and today the social mobility

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commission talked about the widening

geographic divide. What impact does

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he believe his extra resources,

talked about in light of preparation

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for Brexit, will have on tackling

regional productivity issues and

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social mobility?

Well, Mr Deputy

Speaker, we know some of the things

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that drive our low productivity

performance, regional difference is

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one of them, low levels of capital

investment in private business is

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another. Relatively low levels of

public infrastructure investment and

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poorer skills. And what we set out

in the budget is a raft of measures

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that will address all of them.

Today's state of the nation report

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made very clear the issues of social

mobility that are facing many young

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people in England today. Given the

Government's record of cuts to

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social funding, school funding,

raising tuition fees, high youth

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unemployed and a failure to provide

affordable housing for families and

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young people, these findings are not

surprising. I would like to ask what

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action the Minister will take to

combat the intergenerational divide

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for young people right across the

country?

Under this Government, we

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are increasing the number of

apprenticeships. We have improved

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the school curriculum, brought in

new academies and free schools, and

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use unemployment is at its lowest

level for over 13 years.

This

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Speaker, in the budget, over £1

million of the so-called extra money

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for Scotland was in the form of

financial transaction money. That is

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money that the Scottish Government

has got pay back. The block grant

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for spending on front line services

is down £230 million in real terms.

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How can the Chancellor suggest that

£230 million of a reduction for

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Scotland is a good deal for our

country?

Scotland's spending power

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has been increased by £2 billion in

this budget, including financial

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transactions which support fantastic

schemes such as help to buy. But

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what we need to see is the SNP

Government using their powers to

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deliver for Scotland, such as

improving their appalling results in

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English and maths education.

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Liz Truss.

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Has told his staff they were

involved in setting exams by the

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pupils. The head of economic 's had

left the school amid allegations he

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had leaked practice questions to

other teaching staff.

MPs on the

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education committee are looking into

the integrity of the exam system.

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Detection of malpractice is of

importance and we go about it any

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number of. One way we did and detect

malpractice is that all schools that

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hold our examinations are subject to

unannounced examination. Before the

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examination to ensure that

confidential material has not been

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opened during the exam to make sure

that the exam has been supervised.

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That is one thing we do. We actively

encourage whistle blowing by anybody

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with valuable information. In these

cases it was whistle blowing that

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let us catch it, not by the media

but whistle-blowing directly to the

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organisation. We also carry out

statistical and other examination of

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the exam scripts after we receive

them in order to spot improbable

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performance or copied scripts.

A

Labour MP worried how big the

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problem was.

Is it systemic? Is

historic? Is it happening now in the

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press have got on to it?

Can I and

Sir? I agree with the idea of

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integrity. I say to my pupils is

they have to do the right thing when

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no one is looking. In this case, it

was our own teachers in the

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economics department who had

concerns about the head of

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Department. They reported it to me

and I reported it to the examination

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board. It had all been dealt with.

The teacher had been dismissed three

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weeks before the matter hit the

public domain.

Do you think the

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high-stakes accountability of the

examination system, it does not

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condone malpractice, but do you

think in the state sector as well it

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could lead to teachers feeling under

pressure to get those results by any

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means?

That is a question I have

asked myself. In the case of my

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school, I do not believe that to be

the case. We pride ourselves that

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the education we offer is more than

examination results. We do not enter

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league tables in August, or release

our results at that point because it

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is not a metric that we are

prioritising. Certainly, in our

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schools when I meet annually with

heads of department we have an

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annual review of the departmental

performance and there is no

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discussion about a drive to improve

examination results. Each of the

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committee asked about teachers being

in teaching and setting exams.

I

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have teachers who are involved in

setting exams and know in advance

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what are coming up in the exams for

ten separate exams because two of

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them set for two separate boards.

Seven of those ten exams are papers

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that pupils will set, three are not.

We have brought in additional

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safeguards following this case.

Are

the parents made aware of what

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teachers are setting the exams?

No,

we do not. We caught the other way

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and have now said that teachers are

not to disclose to pupils and they

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are involved in examining because we

think that perhaps put them at a

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risk if pupils know they are

involved in setting. We have a

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register that sits with me. It is

not publicly discussed with other

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colleagues or pupils.

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Jeremy Hunt said the NHS in England

must do more to learn from mistakes

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because each year 1000 babies die

unexpectedly or are left with brain

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injuries.

Still birth rates are

falling but still lag behind many

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countries in Europe and when it

comes to injury, brain damage

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sustained at birth can last a

lifetime with about two

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multi-million pound claims settled

against the NHS every week. This

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year 76% of the 1000 cases of birth

related deaths or serious brain

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injuries that occurred in 2015 might

have had a different outcome with

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different care. From next year,

every case of you still worth

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neonatal death, suspected brain

injury or maternal death that is not

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aside to the -- that is notified to

the programme, when thousand

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incidents annually will be

investigated not by the trust at

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which the incident happened, but

independently with a thorough

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learning focused investigation

conducted by the health and safety

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investigation Branch.

Labour

welcomed the plan. The survey this

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year showed 57% of women having a

baby have a red flag event,

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dangerously low staffing levels,

women not receiving one to one care

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during labour. We believe that the

NHS remains underfunded and

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understaffed. Can the Secretary of

State tell us today what action he

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intends to take so that maternity

services are funded and the staff

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shortages are addressed as part of a

strategy to improve safety across

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the board.

If we are to put more

money into the NHS, we need to have

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the doctors, midwives and nurses to

spend that money on. That is why in

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the last year the Government has

committed to a 25% increase in the

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number of nurse training places and

25% increase in the number of

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medical school training places.

It

is easy to spot the women who has a

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past history of difficult birth. It

is easy to spot the women with

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obesity and diabetes, but anyone who

has been involved in birth knows

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that even the healthiest pregnancy

can go wrong at the last minute. For

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us, and in rural parts of the north

of England and west of England, the

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issues of transport and how someone

is identified quickly during labour

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and transported if higher specialism

is required, something that has to

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be looked at.

As every parent who

has lost a child knows, what they

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want most is answers. Can I

congratulate the Secretary of State

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on bringing forward the health and

safety investigation Branch because

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that independence will be crucial

for the buy in of parents to know

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what has happened in that particular

case. How will learning from those

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investigations be shared?

I want to

thank her for her extraordinary

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campaigning on this issue and so,

yes, we want parents to get the

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answer more quickly but we also want

to be able to answer the question

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that every parent asks, can you

guarantee this will not happen

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again? These investigators will have

a dual remit, get the bottom of what

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happened but spread that message

around the system so that same

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mistake is not repeated. That is the

whole objective about setting up a

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team of people to do this.

Even

after all these years, when my wife

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and I hear news this morning takes

us back to our baby daughter who

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died at birth. We had four children

and healthy grandchildren but we

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still look back to that awful time.

Our baby was sickly, it was not

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clear, but the fact of the matter is

we care very much about the children

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who lose their child and I as a

member of Parliament and getting

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worried about rationalisation and

units are getting further away from

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where the population live and we are

worried when we do not give the

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midwives and doctors the full

support to do their difficult job.

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We must give doctors, nurses and

midwives all our full support

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because they do an extraordinary

job.

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The government's been challenged

by members of the House

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of Lords over its plans

to improve air quality.

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Earlier this year a report

from the United Nations accused

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the UK government of "flouting"

its duty to protect the lives

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and health of citizens from illegal

and dangerous levels

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of air pollution.

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A Labour peer cited

findings from the UN.

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Air quality in 44 of our towns

and cities is such that it is too

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dangerous to breathe.

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According to the Royal College

of Physicians, last

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year the health impact of poor air

quality was £20 billion and it is

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estimated that 50,000 people

per year die because of poor

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air quality of whom

9,000 are in London.

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Surely we have to more

than the minister said

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the Government is going to do?

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My Lords, the Government

does take this

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seriously because we are well aware

of the health issues.

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This is an issue which is

affecting many countries.

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As the noble Lord will know,

17 other EU member states have this

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problem with nitrogen dioxide.

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It is why we are working closely

with local authorities so we

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can escalate particularly

those local authorities

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where we need to make my rapid

progress.

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We are well aware of

the health consequences.

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It is very serious.

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Will the Minister explain

to the House whether there are

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ongoing discussions with motor

manufacturers in the UK,

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particularly those

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who only off vehicles with diesel

engines whilst exporting to other

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parts of the world

with petrol engines

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in exactly the same vehicles?

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Isn't it clear,

particularly after what my

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noble friend has said,

that oxides of nitrogen and other

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particular matter from diesel

engines is the biggest single

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threat to health in this country

and particularly among children

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who are going to and from school

and playing

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and shopping at street level

and risking damage to the health?

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A lot of what the noble

lord has said I agree

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and it is why this country intends

and why we have had investment

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in the ultra low emissions

vehicle regime.

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It is very important

that we are in discussions with the

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manufacturers and the most

important thing, and one

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of the problems we have

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had with nitrogen

dioxide is the driving

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emissions test had been

on a

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laboratory basis, not

a real driving basis.

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From September this year,

all new cars will have

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to meet emission limits

in real driving conditions.

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The last Labour Government

cut the duty on

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diesel and encouraged

us to buy diesel cars.

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Will my noble friend not take

lectures from then on what

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we should be doing?

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My lords, we now have to deal

with what is a serious issue.

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We are only now not compliant

in nitrogen dioxide.

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We are compliant in all other

areas of air quality.

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This is one we need

to address and my noble

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friend is right, this problem is

because we dashed for diesel and it

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is the diesel vehicle that has

caused the problems with nitrogen

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dioxide that we are now addressing.

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It was the final day of Commons

debate on the Budget measures.

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And one former party

leader was experiencing

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a sense of deja vu.

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I noticed one or two

policies in the budget that

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look somewhat familiar.

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The energy policy, the energy price

cap used to be parked of a Marxist

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universe, now it is

Government policy.

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The use it or lose it policy on land

banking was described

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by the foreign secretary as Mugabe

style land expropriation.

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Now it is on the way

to becoming Government policy.

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The former head of

Theresa May's policy unit

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I welcome the easing of the pay cap.

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so that those on the front line

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of our public services,

the heroes who run into burning

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buildings and bullets for us get

the pay rise that they deserve

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that is appropriate and affordable.

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But the signal also that those

in the public services

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who are responsible for management,

for delivering productivity,

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are rewarded for that productivity

and on the basis of it.

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The SNP turned to the cutting

of the growth forecasts

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and the level of government debt

in the budget.

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The target set by the Government

since they came to power,

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the Tory chancellor in 2010,

they have failed to deliver.

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That means...

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Yes, of course I'll give way.

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I am grateful to the honourable

gentleman for giving way.

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Does he agree with me that the real

story behind the budget

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was the growth forecast that

will impact not just the borrowing

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that he's talking about but public

spending and the whole shape

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of the British economy and society

in the years ahead?

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Don't we need an urgent debate

on how we really raise that growth

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rate and the industrial

strategy was not up to that

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job, which is tricky?

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The first part I agree

with entirely.

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The big story from the budget

was growth figures marked down

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over the period and the

productivity per head almost

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halved for the period.

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And pay growth marked down,

which impacts on real people.

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As to a debate, we have been having

debates on the productivity

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conundrum on growth since before

I was an MP.

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Given I am now about 110,

that was some time ago.

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The veteran Stewart Hosie.

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And at the end of that

debate MPs this happened.

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Order.

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The question is as

on the order paper.

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As many as are of the

opinion, say "aye"...

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Aye...

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LAUGHTER.

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You are not in very good form.

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Well, they had another go

and although the response

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was still a bit lacklustre,

the Speaker decided that it

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did amount to approval

and the Budget was passed.

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So that's all for now,

but do join me at the same time

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tomorrow for a roundup of,

amongst other things,

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Prime Minister's Questions!

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But for now, from me,

Mandy Baker, goodbye.

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