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Coming up in the next half hour:
Concerns that the Brexit Bill | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
is a Government power-grab. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
What this House being asked again
and again his take on trust that | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
Ministers will not abuse these
powers. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
Ministers will not
abuse these powers. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:35 | |
A desperate call for better | 0:00:35 | 0:00:36 | |
funding of refuges. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
The bare minimum is that someone --
someone should be no more than a | 0:00:38 | 0:00:44 | |
phone call away, these people are at
risk, they are in danger. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
phone call away, these people
are at risk, they are in danger. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
And on National Postal Workers' Day, | 0:00:49 | 0:00:50 | |
one MP suggests
a quite radical gift. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
Renationalize... | 0:00:54 | 0:00:55 | |
Renationalize... | 0:00:55 | 0:00:57 | |
But first, we're now
three-quarters of the way | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
through the detailed deliberations
of the European Union | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
Withdrawal Bill. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:02 | |
And Tuesday was all
about Henry VIII! | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
Well, not so much him,
but the powers he held. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
In 1539 the Statute
of Proclamations was passed. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
This gave Henry the power
to legislate by proclamation. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
What on earth has that
got to do with Brexit? | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
Well, there are Henry VIII powers
in the EU Withdrawal Bill. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
These would enable ministers
to repeal or amend measures | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
without further parliamentary
scrutiny after the bill's | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
been passed into law. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
And some MPs don't approve. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:31 | |
It's not an exaggeration to say that
this is a massive potential transfer | 0:01:31 | 0:01:36 | |
of legislative competence from
Parliament to government. And it is | 0:01:36 | 0:01:41 | |
a sweeping power that would
certainly make Henry VIII blush. If | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
you are to see it today. My
amendment 57 proposes deleting the | 0:01:45 | 0:01:52 | |
sweeping measure of that particular
sub-clause because Ministers have | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
not ensured that their powers are as
limited as possible, quite the | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
contrary they have ensured that they
are as sexually wide as possible. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:06 | |
Would he not agree with me that
whilst a member... Says that there | 0:02:06 | 0:02:12 | |
might be primary legislation in
relation to trades... Those bills | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
are very likely to have the same
Henry VIII powers in them. Will | 0:02:15 | 0:02:20 | |
that's it, I think a different
pieces of subsequent legislation | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
which are also opening up this
precedent, patting at members of | 0:02:23 | 0:02:28 | |
Parliament saying don't you trouble
yourselves we will sort out all | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
these areas, you will just go away
and if you really really object you | 0:02:31 | 0:02:36 | |
can petition us about it which is
effectively with the provisions are | 0:02:36 | 0:02:41 | |
saying. That is not good enough. The
Bill itself could be used further | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
Henry VIII powers. If this bill is
passed an amended we face the | 0:02:45 | 0:02:51 | |
prospect of Ministers, perhaps not
this Minister, and perhaps not | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
Ministers in this government but
Ministers having the ability to use | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
the Henry VIII powers in the built
in for further such powers onto | 0:02:57 | 0:03:02 | |
themselves or other UK institution.
Delegated legislation, piled upon | 0:03:02 | 0:03:07 | |
the delegated legislation, I would
argue that that is an outcome that | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
no member of this House should
regard as an acceptable prospect. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
The point is it is possible using
the powers conferred under clause | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
seven as it is currently drafted, as
with so much of this bill what this | 0:03:18 | 0:03:24 | |
House is being asked again, and
again, is to take on trust that | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
Ministers will not abuse these
powers. It's already been mentioned | 0:03:28 | 0:03:33 | |
about the working Time directive,
48, a weekly work. I'm not | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
suggesting that the Government
Minister necessarily want use these | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
powers to completely overturn that,
and substitute 48 with 72, I'm not | 0:03:40 | 0:03:45 | |
suggesting, but it may well be that
a Minister in the future within this | 0:03:45 | 0:03:50 | |
period of the transition will find
that the 48 hours is overly | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
prescriptive as in a mandatory sense
of them I choose to make that more | 0:03:54 | 0:03:59 | |
of I and advisory notion and
something that is absolute and can | 0:03:59 | 0:04:04 | |
be challenged. And with a stroke of
a pan overnight the actual rights | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
and data rights at work for millions
of people I work in this country | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
could somebody wrote it. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:13 | |
for the creation of a committee
to sift through all legislation that | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
won't be subject to the usual
parliamentary scrutiny - | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
the "statutory instruments" or SIs. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:24 | |
Much is going to depend on the
common-sense of the in how will | 0:04:24 | 0:04:30 | |
those were going to be appointed a
committee are chosen. There are of | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
this House, on all sides, who have a
keen understanding of what a | 0:04:33 | 0:04:39 | |
statutory instrument is, a sack -- a
keen understanding of how it should | 0:04:39 | 0:04:43 | |
work, and an ability to sniff out
when it is being misused. And it is | 0:04:43 | 0:04:48 | |
those individuals which if I may say
to my old friends, who are the ones | 0:04:48 | 0:04:54 | |
who ought to be appointed. The
conservative MPs who tabled the Bill | 0:04:54 | 0:05:04 | |
said he would tab key. The political
costs of his front bench, to my | 0:05:04 | 0:05:09 | |
front bench of going against a
recommendation of the sifting | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
committee will be significant. It
will have to give a reason. Why | 0:05:12 | 0:05:17 | |
isn't this agreement. The Minister
will be summoned. To explain his or | 0:05:17 | 0:05:25 | |
her departments position. And it
will be tagged on the order paper | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
that this is I, this has not been
agreed to sifting committee and | 0:05:28 | 0:05:34 | |
government. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
The Brexit minister denied there | 0:05:37 | 0:05:38 | |
was any power-grabbing going on. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
It is the case of the Government
wishes to take the minimum powers | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
necessary, the minimum powers
required to do the job before us. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
Which is to deliver a working
statute by accident. We do not | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
intend to make any major changes in
policy between ash beyond those | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
which are appropriate. Beyond those
which are appropriate to deliver a | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
working statute book where the law
after exit data substantially the | 0:05:59 | 0:06:04 | |
same before exit day so that the
public, so that individuals and | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
businesses can rely upon it. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:09 | |
And scrutiny of the Brexit Bill
continues on Wednesday | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
with the Government expected
to face its toughest day yet. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:17 | |
Now, the Home Affairs Committee
is examining what action | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
the Government could take to stop
demonstrations taking place directly | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
outside abortion clinics. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
Two abortion providers told MPs that
women were being harassed | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
and suggested that a "buffer
zone" would help. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
But anti-abortion protesters
insisted they were simply "pavement | 0:06:31 | 0:06:36 | |
counsellors" helping women
in desperate situations | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
to make a "true choice". | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
We see an escalation both in the
size and in the tactics used, we've | 0:06:43 | 0:06:50 | |
seen across the UK now, protests and
other harassment. Not only are | 0:06:50 | 0:06:59 | |
outside dedicated sensors, but in GP
surgeries and NHS properties. Mostly | 0:06:59 | 0:07:10 | |
we a change in tactics from what our
staff use to describe over the | 0:07:10 | 0:07:16 | |
previous 20 years as usually silent
prayer, to now engaging directly | 0:07:16 | 0:07:23 | |
with our service users to point of
physically grabbing and blocking | 0:07:23 | 0:07:29 | |
them. And using other means of
intimidation. We had one service | 0:07:29 | 0:07:35 | |
user recently say that she was
greeted outside the clinic by a | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
protester or sidewalk counsellor
with the mummy please don't kill me, | 0:07:39 | 0:07:45 | |
I love you mummy. They are told that
they will die of cancer, that God | 0:07:45 | 0:07:52 | |
will punish them, they are holy
water thrown at them. God help me I | 0:07:52 | 0:08:00 | |
just hope that the people on the
panel will ask for a very concrete | 0:08:00 | 0:08:05 | |
evidence of this, none -- none of
you will represent an reduced | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
evidence against you just because
they say to be so. ... Have two | 0:08:08 | 0:08:13 | |
cameras trained on the base their
book a new and in spring this year | 0:08:13 | 0:08:18 | |
just so they can have a better view
of us all the time. That we're | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
blocking women enter, were grabbing
hold of them were shutting the gate | 0:08:21 | 0:08:26 | |
of women, where Facebook live Street
and women. All these things are | 0:08:26 | 0:08:31 | |
happening the sole evidence
otherwise no evidence of it. There's | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
no evidence because it is not
happening. Have been cases where was | 0:08:33 | 0:08:39 | |
by, whether have been cases of
somebody standing in front of an | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
entrance or following somebody was
left the clinic, or sending | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
threatening messages to staff, do
you agree that that is intimidation | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
and that it should not happen? To
the best of my knowledge none of | 0:08:49 | 0:08:54 | |
those in incidence exists and I
believe that they should not happen. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
of the Unborn Child doesn't take
part in vigils but supports | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
organisations that do. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
Many women that are arriving at
abortion clinics and they're not | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
decided they've not got a clear-cut
decision yes I want to go through | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
with my abortion. Huge pressure is
on these women, from boyfriends to | 0:09:09 | 0:09:14 | |
families, they are worried about the
future, there is some peaceful | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
prayer for woman, person offering
him a lifeline, -- offering them | 0:09:18 | 0:09:25 | |
alternatives. And they take that.
Let's figure out these women. Whose | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
lives have been turned around for
the better because they've | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
encountered a pro-life pavement
counsellor who has given them a true | 0:09:32 | 0:09:38 | |
choice about the decision that
they're facing. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
Abortion | 0:09:41 | 0:09:42 | |
providers | 0:09:42 | 0:09:43 | |
pointed to Australia | 0:09:43 | 0:09:44 | |
where clinics have buffer zones
of 150 metres. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
Clare Murphy said the protests
were forcing women to | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
turn to other means. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
Particularly where there are
activist potentially with cameras, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:58 | |
women were in situations where they
just cannot risk their | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
confidentiality, they cannot risk
the family finding out. Who are | 0:10:01 | 0:10:06 | |
going online to order, to try to
order pills to try and take at home | 0:10:06 | 0:10:11 | |
because they feel that this activity
as I clinics is just an absolute, | 0:10:11 | 0:10:15 | |
this is an absolute impediment to
them accessing the services. Would | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
you be prepared to come to a
voluntary agreement that you would | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
voluntarily effectively operate a
buffer zone and would not be a | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
certain distance from the clinic
doors so that nobody had to pass you | 0:10:26 | 0:10:31 | |
on the way to the clinic. Looking at
the hundreds of women we see every | 0:10:31 | 0:10:36 | |
year who take our help and feel that
they haven't had up to instantly | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
dump dead inside his clinics, I'm
noticing anyways I'm going to move | 0:10:40 | 0:10:45 | |
away from the nearest opportunity to
give the woman's the leaflet as she | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
is going the door. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
The debate about abortion clinics. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
Back in the Commons,
there was a call for new powers | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
to stop stalkers and domestic
abusers using the courts to cause | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
further distress to their victims. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
A Plaid Cymru MP wants courts to be
able to dismiss "meritless | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
applications" amid concerns that
"baseless, vexatious" | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
claims were being made
in the civil courts. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
The purpose of this bill is to limit
the ability of perpetrators of | 0:11:12 | 0:11:17 | |
primarily domestic abuse, stalking,
and harassment, their ability to | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
use, indeed misuse, or abuse, family
and civil courts as a cynical and | 0:11:21 | 0:11:26 | |
calculus -- totally a method to
cause further distress and to | 0:11:26 | 0:11:30 | |
exercise deliberate control over the
actions of their victims. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
exercise deliberate control over
the actions of their victims. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
One victim had faced repeated court
cases in which he had to face | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
being questioned by his stalker
who was under a restraining order: | 0:11:37 | 0:11:43 | |
Lucy's partner had a restraining
order, having been charged with | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
stalking her. He is taking Lucy to
court 15 times in civil and family | 0:11:47 | 0:11:52 | |
courts. This is cost around £25,000.
But many people she is not eligible | 0:11:52 | 0:11:57 | |
for legal aid in the circumstances.
Victims of abuse often -- years of | 0:11:57 | 0:12:03 | |
abuse, are obliged to present core
protocol to face her abusers, to sit | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
with them in waiting rooms, to be in
close proximity to them in court | 0:12:07 | 0:12:12 | |
rooms, and to undergo cross in
person. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:13 | |
rooms, and to undergo
cross in person. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
And she said if cases
were allowed to go ahead, | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
the victims of abuse or stalking
should be allowed to give evidence | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
behind a screen or by video link. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
Liz Saville Roberts was allowed
to introduce her bill | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
but without government support it
has little chance of becoming law. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:30 | |
You're watching Tuesday
in Parliament, with me, Mandy Baker. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
Don't forget you can find all our
programmes on the BBC Iplayer. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:41 | |
Now, plans to change the way refuges
for victims of domestic violence | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
are funded have been strongly
criticised by MPs. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
The Government proposes giving local
councils a protected grant to pay | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
for all supported housing. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
This would cover refuges
but would also include housing | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
for other groups of people such
as offenders, drug | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
addicts and the homeless. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:00 | |
In Westminster Hall,
the Labour MP Jess Phillips related | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
some of the experiences she had
when she worked for | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
the organisation, Women's Aid. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
I remember a woman coming into the
refuge where I worked, she could not | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
speak or eat, as she had been part
of her control. I will never forget | 0:13:14 | 0:13:21 | |
what watching the refuge workers at
sitting her for hours, gently | 0:13:21 | 0:13:25 | |
feeding her, teaching her how to
feed herself again. I rub her | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
another family where the mother had
been so belittled, so dehumanize by | 0:13:29 | 0:13:34 | |
her abuser that she could not parent
your kids any more. She had no power | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
or influence over them at all. She
criticised a proposal to hunt -- the | 0:13:38 | 0:13:44 | |
bare minimum is that someone should
be no more than a phone call away, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:49 | |
these people are at risk, how's the
going to, this money and what | 0:13:49 | 0:13:59 | |
they're spending it on. ,
commissioned actually help people. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:09 | |
Because local need which is what has
been outlined has been very | 0:14:09 | 0:14:14 | |
different things. I want is a little
girls given back their childhood. I | 0:14:14 | 0:14:19 | |
want to securing well-paid support
workers sitting over their clients | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
were so traumatised the cannot eat.
I want lives to be rebuilt. I don't | 0:14:22 | 0:14:26 | |
want a bed for the night, I know my
local schools also played an | 0:14:26 | 0:14:32 | |
important role fighting has schools
in which there is violence. ... We | 0:14:32 | 0:14:40 | |
also need help to give victims the
competent support to extirpate | 0:14:40 | 0:14:46 | |
themselves and toxic relationships
and try to instill faith in their | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
own strength to live with a violent
or abusive partner. Refugees can | 0:14:48 | 0:14:52 | |
play crucial role in nine the
Government proposal is not changing | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
the entitlement of the services,
nonetheless I'm very glad the | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
Government is taking aromatic
approach by committing to her view | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
of the new funding to ensure that
his work is at this shed. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:07 | |
Following the coalition government's
decision to transfer the support | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
element of funding for refugees
into local authority budgets, | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
while making huge cuts to council
funding, 17% of specialist refugees | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
have closed by 2014 and it's
little wonder, then, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
that putting the entirety of state
funding for refugees into the hands | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
of already under pressure local
authorities has caused the member | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
for Birmingham Yardley
and others working in | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
the sector so much concern. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:38 | |
There have been several family
members that have been | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
direct victims of quite | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
extreme domestic abuse and I've seen
through luck, through their own | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
strength, and energy
and determination that they've been | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
able to change that trajectory
and make sure it wasn't | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
something that was repeated
for future generations. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
I think it is down to their
character and luck that they've been | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
able to do that and that is not
something that is afforded | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
to everyone and that is why
government must intervene. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
The new funding model
will see all housing costs, | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
core rent and eligible service
charges funded by a ring fenced | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
grants to be distributed by local
authorities and we intend that ring | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
fence to remain in the long term. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
We also intend to use grant
conditions to ensure | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
that the funding is spent
where it is intended. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:25 | |
What I'd like to do is invite
the honourable lady for Yardley | 0:16:25 | 0:16:33 | |
to meet with myself and my
honourable friend to discuss some | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
of these issues in more depth,
particularly in terms of appropriate | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
accommodation and the examples
that she mentioned in that sense, | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
the wider issues that she raised. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
As members have pointed out as well,
there is a consultation on funding | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
which closes on the 23rd of January. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
So there is still time
for organisations to have their say | 0:16:51 | 0:16:55 | |
and I would encourage them to come
forward and do that. | 0:16:55 | 0:17:00 | |
I welcome the Minister's
statement and what I will say | 0:17:00 | 0:17:05 | |
is that the reality on the ground
never feels quite like what is being | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
presented to me at whichever
particular dispatch box | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
but I will never ever ever stop
pointing that out until what is said | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
to me feels exactly like what it
feels like to get someone a refuge | 0:17:16 | 0:17:26 | |
bed at ten to five when the office
is shutting on a Friday. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:39 | |
Because, at the moment
it feels impossible. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
At the weekend the chairman
of a major London | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
hospital trust resigned. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:45 | |
Lord Kerslake claimed that ministers
were simply not addressing | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
the financial challenges
facing the NHS. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:48 | |
But when an urgent question
about his resignation | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
was asked in the Commons,
he came under sustained attack | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
from Conservative MPs. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
Kings is receiving substantial
financial support from | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
the Department of Health. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
During this financial year the trust
is receiving £135 million of support | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
in order to maintain
front line services. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
This is the second highest level
of support across England. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
Both the level of deficit and speed
of deterioration is an acceptable, | 0:18:08 | 0:18:13 | |
as I'm sure all honourable members
would agree and while no trust | 0:18:13 | 0:18:18 | |
or hospital is an island,
it is right that those charged | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
with leading it should take
responsibility for such results. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:26 | |
The chief financial officer
and Chief Operating Officer both | 0:18:26 | 0:18:31 | |
resigned last month and, as we know,
Lord Kerslake left on Sunday. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
The trust will now receive even more
support with the appointment | 0:18:35 | 0:18:40 | |
of a financial improvement director. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:48 | |
The organisation will be
required to implement a plan | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
to prove its finances to be more
closely monitored | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
by NHS Improvement. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:56 | |
On top of special measures
and subject to due process, | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
NHS Improvement intends to appoint
Ian Smith as a new and experienced | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
interim chair for Kings to take
control of the organisation. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
Harriet Harman. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
In | 0:19:06 | 0:19:06 | |
Doesn't the Minister realise
that the problem at Kings is not | 0:19:06 | 0:19:12 | |
the leadership any more
than it is the growing number | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
of patients or the dedicated staff. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:16 | |
The problem at Kings
is not enough money. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
And he shows no recognition
of the fact that over the last | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
two years they've already cut
£80 million, double the rate that | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
other hospitals have had to cut,
and they've taken on an ailing trust | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
in order to help out the wider NHS
and now they've been told | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
that they've got to make
even further cuts. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:41 | |
Several South London MPs pointed
to the background behind | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
the financial problems at Kings. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:51 | |
The root of this current financial
crisis go back to 2013 | 0:19:51 | 0:19:53 | |
to the collapse of the South London
health care trust and the decision | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
to incorporate two additional
hospitals which were failing | 0:19:57 | 0:19:58 | |
in their services into Kings trust
without adequate funding | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
to support that decision. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:02 | |
This has been followed by
year-on-year real term revenue cuts, | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
next to zero capital funding
and all the time demand and need | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
in our community is going up. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
their work calls for a commission to
be setup to look the issues. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:17 | |
Over the decades we have perpetrated
the fiction that we can | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
have a Scandinavian level of public
service an American-style levels of | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
taxation and this is the reason why. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
I would ask the Minister to heed
the call of the member of Parliament | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
for Totnes and many others
across this house and set up | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
a proper convention to look
at what is the sustainable model, | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
not just for Kings but for the whole
of the NHS so that we can | 0:20:33 | 0:20:37 | |
continue to get the services
our constituents deserve. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:42 | |
A series of Conservatives attacked
the record of Kings. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:50 | |
Under Lord Kerslake's watch £715,000
last year was spent off | 0:20:50 | 0:20:52 | |
payroll on an interim director. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:53 | |
£30,000 a month was spent
on temporary managers. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
There is a problem in this country
with this scandalous waste | 0:20:57 | 0:21:01 | |
of tax payers' money. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
What we have here is one of Labour's
top advisers jumping in in a blaze | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
of politically motivated publicity
before being pushed out for woeful | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
financial mismanagement. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
Given the noble Lord's Kerslake
much-publicised association | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
with the current Labour leadership
should it come as any surprise | 0:21:15 | 0:21:23 | |
that the trust he was chairing
would run out of taxpayers money. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
And isn't the truth that he actually
jumped and squeaked | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
before he was pushed. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
Now, rail fares are about
to see their largest | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
increase for five years. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
Fares in Britain will go up by
an average of 3.4% from 2nd January. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
The increase is the
biggest since 2013. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
The price rise will affect regulated
fares, which includes season | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
tickets, and unregulated fares,
such as off-peak leisure tickets. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
In the Lords peers wanted
to know why such a big | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
increase was necessary. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
An annual season ticket from Swindon
to London will increase by £304. | 0:21:54 | 0:22:00 | |
For many years now the government
has frozen fuel duty to help | 0:22:00 | 0:22:10 | |
motorists so will the Minister agree
that government should now freeze | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
rail fares for the coming year
to help rail passengers? | 0:22:14 | 0:22:23 | |
The noble lady raises
the point on freezing fuel duty | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
which is obviously widely welcomed
by motorists following the budget, | 0:22:26 | 0:22:31 | |
I'm afraid were not able to freeze
rail fares because by doing | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
so we would have to decrease
the investment in our | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
which is sorely needed. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:49 | |
Not only is the whole | 0:22:51 | 0:22:52 | |
area of rail fares very complicated
it is in fact discriminatory | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
when you look at many people in this
country who do not have access | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
to Internet or to computers
and they find trying to get | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
deals on railways almost
impossible and they also find, | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
like I do, that the stations are not
always accessible because the staff | 0:23:03 | 0:23:09 | |
are on training or sick and we stand
there in the rain waiting for | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
the train, it's not a good picture. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:22 | |
My Lords, I recognise that the fare
system can sometimes be complicated | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
and indeed illogical. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
Of course, many tickets are now
bought online but for those | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
who don't use the Internet the rail
minister is working on a fares | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
and ticketing action plan. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:35 | |
Amongst other things,
they are working on reducing jargon | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
and improving the vending machines
at stations and they've | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
extended the availability
of advanced purchase fares. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
Which you can now purchase
at the station on the day of travel. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
Well, it may have escaped
your notice but Tuesday | 0:23:46 | 0:23:50 | |
was National Postal Workers' Day. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:52 | |
The event is organised
by the Communications Workers Union. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
Members across the Commons
agreed postmen and women | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
did an excellent job. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
But one MP called for
a dramatic policy change. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:07 | |
Royal Mail was up for sale
under this government | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
the privatisation they
faced worsening conditions on tax | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
and pensions and the prospect of
more job losses. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
Will the Minister
re-nationalise the Royal Mail? | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
Minister! | 0:24:16 | 0:24:22 | |
I'd like to start by heartily
agreeing | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
with the right
honourable gentleman's celebration | 0:24:24 | 0:24:32 | |
of our postal workers today who will
deliver, | 0:24:32 | 0:24:37 | |
as he says, in all weather
to 29 million addresses across the | 0:24:37 | 0:24:39 | |
country over the festive season. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
I can't agree with him that
renationalisation is the answer. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
Does the Minister agree with me that
regardless of ownership Royal Mail | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
needs to continue to modernise
and become more efficient because it | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
operates in a very increasingly
competitive marketplace. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:50 | |
Minister! | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
My honourable friend
makes a very good point. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:56 | |
When it was privatised,
Amazon was one of Royal Mail's | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
biggest customers. | 0:24:58 | 0:24:59 | |
Amazon now is one of its
biggest competitors. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
So my honourable
friend is absolutely | 0:25:02 | 0:25:03 | |
right. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
More investment required
in technology and in modernisation. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
Margot James. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
So that ends Day Six of detailed
debate on the EU Withdrawal Bill. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
And important though it is,
it can be a bit, well, dry. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:21 | |
The power could not be used
to remove functions relating | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
to rights and protections,
as are the concerns of the Amendment | 0:25:24 | 0:25:28 | |
342 and new clause 37,
unless somehow they became deficient | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
outside the EU and removing
functions entirely was | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
an appropriate response. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
All of which would, of course,
be laid out in the accompanying | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
explanatory memorandum. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
Taking dryness to a whole
new dimension: | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
the Brexit
minister, Steve Baker. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:46 | |
And that's it from me,
Mandy Baker no relation. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
Do join me again at
the same time tomorrow. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
But for now, goodbye. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:58 |