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Hello and welcome to the programme.

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Coming up...

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Delivering his Spring

Statement, the Chancellor

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characterises his mood.

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I meanwhile am at my most positively

Tigger - like today.

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But his Labour shadow is not amused.

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His complacency today is astounding.

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And YouTube gets a dressing down.

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It is shocking that you seem to know

so little about who they are, what

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training they've had or if they are

employed by your organisation.

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It used to be that cometh

the spring, cometh the Budget.

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The full holding up the briefcase

outside Number 11, how much a bottle

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of whisky was going up and a rabbit

out of the fiscal hat.

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But that was in the old

days, well, last year.

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It all changed when the Chancellor

announced budgets were now

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to be autumnal affairs,

with just a limited

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statement in the spring.

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So it was that Philip Hammond rose

in the Commons with what he said

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would be a short statement.

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In fact, it was 36 minutes.

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He began with an attack on Labour.

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I reject the party opposite cosmic

doom and gloom about the state of

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the nation. -- party opposite's doom

and gloom. Every year since 2010,

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we've had to listen to the right

honourable member for Hayes and

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Harlington predict a recession, none

of which has actually happened. If

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there are any yours in the chamber,

they're over there. -- Eeyores. I

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meanwhile I met my most positively

Tigger-like today as I come amid the

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country which bases the future with

unique strengths. Since autumn, I

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have committed to £60 billion of --

£16 billion of new spending shared

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between... With almost £9 billion

extra per hour NHS and our social

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care system. £4 billion going into

the NHS in 2018 - 2019 alone. If

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management and unions reach

agreement on pay modernisation deal

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for our nation's nurses... Who have

worked in very challenging

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circumstances to provide NHS care

that we all value so highly. £2.2

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billion... Taking public investment

in our schools, hospitals and

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infrastructure in this Parliament to

its highest sustained level in 40

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years.

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The Shadow Chancellor

was positively not Tigger-like.

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His complacency today is astounding.

We face in every public service a

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crisis on a scale we've never seen

before. Hasn't she listened to the

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doctors, nurses, the teachers, the

police the carriers, and even his

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own counsellors? -- the carers. They

are telling him to act now. For

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eight years they've been ignored by

this government than today, they've

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been in Godard again. NHS trusts

will end this financial year £1

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billion in deficit. Doctors and

nurses are struggling, being asked

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to do more and more while there is

100,000 NHS posts going on Bill. --

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on fill. How many people have to die

waiting in an ambulance before he

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acts? He's mentioned the payoff is

of the NHS staff, and I was forced

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upon him by the Labour...

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The SNP leader at Westminster

labelled the statement

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much ado about nothing.

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We are ten years on from the

financial crisis, the austerity is

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still with us. There was a lack of

hope given to the people of the

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United Kingdom from this statement

today. Mr Speaker, on the weekend we

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saw the honourable member and his

other job as a linesman at the

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Glasgow Celtic versus Rangers

football match, waving his flag

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enthusiast thing... If anybody

deserves a red card today, it's the

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Chancellor.

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Several Labour MPs lined up

to criticise the Chancellor,

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firstly on the NHS.

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Given that he knows that the budget

is going to be two late -- too late

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to... That he knows that the

doubling up all the Prime Minister

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and do a public apology to the staff

and pigeons of the NHS who will have

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to endure Mr's crisis because of

this failure.

The Chancellor has

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been very upbeat today, but why is

he so upbeat when the growth figures

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show that we have gone from near the

top of the G-7 and the G20 growth

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lists to the bottom of both?

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STUDIO: A Conservative MP quoted

from the economic forecast prepared

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by the Office for Budget

Responsibility.

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The likelihood of unexpected

political development leads to

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significant downside risks to

forecasts. Nasa PCs any of those

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political downside risks sitting

directly in front of him? -- can I

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ask the Chancellor if the...

There

is the risk...

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STUDIO: While Philip Hammond

was delivering his statement,

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news came through that the US

Secretary of State had been

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fired by President Trump.

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Rex Tillerson had only on Monday

backed British authorities

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in blaming the Kremlin

for the poisoning of a former

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Russian spy in Salisbury.

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This seemed to be a departure

from the White House line which had

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declined to blame Russia.

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A note was passed to the Prime

Minister as she was listening

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to the Chancellor,

as you can see on the

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right of the picture.

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Perhaps the moment she got

news of the sacking?

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After reading the note,

she acknowledges it and then begins

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to digest its contents.

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Now, Labour has failed

in a bid to block changes

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to Universal Credit,

free school meals and childcare.

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It accused the Government of trying

to deny free school meals

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to a million children.

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Ministers hit back saying

that was "scaremongering

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and misinformation."

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But there was a concession

to the DUP, with the Government

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announcing that plans to end

the childcare voucher scheme

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would be put off for six months.

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The attack on the changes

to the welfare system were led

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by the Shadow Education Secretary.

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Many people, including MPs, wrongly

believed that all children in

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poverty already get free school

meals. That is not currently the

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case. Under the transitional

protection under Universal Credit,

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they would be entitled to that

benefit and it's through this

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secondary legislation that they're

pulling the rope from under the

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flash point the rug from underneath

those families.

No child would lose

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out their entitlement and that in

fact 50,000 more children would

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benefit under our proposals when

compared to the previous system.

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While I understand that is the

nature of the opposition to oppose,

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scaremongering and misinformation

from that side of the House have

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surely reached a new low.

Repeated

ad nausea... That isn't much good

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for people. It is just being a shift

from out of her poverty into in work

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poverty, we note there has been a

rise in and work poverty and that

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six to 7% of children, 67% of

children who are currently living in

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poverty do so in a family where at

least one person works.

Might I

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suggest that seeing as the

Government does like to make Liberal

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Democrat policy, with the income tax

threshold, I'm not precious, you can

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have another one, extend free school

meals to all children in primary

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schools. And if not that, then at

least extend it to all children

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under Universal Credit.

The party

opposite frequently looked to us to

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improve the situation and the lives

of the most vulnerable. That's what

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this policy is doing. That's with

these regulations are doing today.

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But unfortunately, the party

opposite seem not to live seem not

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to lot get facts in the way -- get

in the way of a good story. They're

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putting that before people.

We are

talking about young mums who are

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probably reentering the labour

market for the first time. We are

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this incentivizing them from

working. The problem with the policy

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here is that it's breaking that

principle of the Universal

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Credit,...

This motion is not about

-- this motion is about playing

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politics. Government have taken the

time to understand how best to

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transfer a lump sum benefits like

free school meals into a system like

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Universal Credit. By the way,

taxpayers...

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At the end of the debate

their was a concession

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on the childcare voucher scheme.

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Given the concerns raised across

this House, that there should be a

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delay on the closure of that scheme

to allow for the concerts to be

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addressed.

Madam Deputy Speaker I

have heard the concerns that have

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been raised about this and the

timing and they can confirm that we

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will be able to keep the voucher

scheme open for a further six

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months...

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STUDIO: Later, all four of Labour's

motions were rejected by MPs.

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You're watching Tuesday

in Parliament with me, Mandy Baker.

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The Conservative MP who represents

Telford has told ministers that

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girls are being traded for sex

in "a routine way."

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It's been reported that hundreds

of children could've fallen victim

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to abusers over a 40-year period

in the Shropshire town.

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These young girls are too often

white working-class, with multiple

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from her abilities and that is what

perpetrators are targeting, that is

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why perpetrators are targeting them.

It is also why so often they are

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miscast as bringing it on

themselves. They are miscast as

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being indulging in risky behaviour,

as being promiscuous. As somehow

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being to blame for what is happening

to them. Had those girls been from a

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different background, had they been

able to articulate more clearly what

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it was that was happening to them,

have deep been able to identify that

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it was a crime, -- had they been

able to do...

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Lucy Allan called for

an independent inquiry.

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The minister said this

was the worst of all crimes.

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The scale of it is now being

encountered by the independent

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inquiry of child sex abuse and I

think the Government recognises that

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the inquiry will take a long time.

And I think where there are

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incidents where we can intervene

earlier to try and prevent sexual

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exploitation, I think we should.

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A senior official at YouTube has

apologised to MPs for the company's

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slowness in removing extremist

and offensive videos,

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in particular those produced

by neo-Nazi groups such as National

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Action.

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William McCants faced

a barrage of questions

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from the Home Affairs committee.

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I want to say to begin, we apologise

for those videos being on our

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platform. They should not have been

there. You should not have had to

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come back to us repeatedly. These

four videos, because they are from a

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proscribed terrorist organisation

should not have remained up on our

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platform.

Do you have any reviewers

based in the United Kingdom?

I

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believe we have a large team of

reviewers based in Ireland.

Which is

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not in the UK.

Right, but I'm not

sure. We have of course full-time

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employees that work on this, but if

you are asking me about contractors

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that we use, I'm not sure if they

are based in the UK were not.

So you

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put some of these decisions out to

contract?

Sertraline, and that's

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part of the trouble here, that these

videos were going to people --

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certainly, and we're not able to

identify them, that's why they will

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be routed to specialist and why the

general reviewers will be given

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training in order to identify the

city of.

How many of the people who

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make these decisions are actually

not YouTube employees?

Generally I

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don't know a number.

Do you do the

training for these contractors or

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was that contracted out as well?

I

do not know who conduct the

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training. I certainly know our trust

and safety teams are intimately

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involved in designing the

curriculum.

This is new information

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for us and I have to say it is

shocking, really shocking and you

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don't even know where your review

teams are based, who they are,

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whether they are done through

contract to other companies or

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organizations or whether it is done

by YouTube. All of the statements

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that you gave us at the beginning of

this evidence session about how much

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it mattered to you personally, if

these things are actually being

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implemented by staff on your behalf

or by people on your behalf, it is

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frankly shocking that you seem to

know so little about who they are,

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where they are, what training they

have had or even whether they are

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employed by your organisation. You

have no response to that?

I've been

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brought on to deal with

counterterrorism policy. I worked on

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it at a very high level. Our trust

and safety teams are charged with

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making sure that reviewers get the

training that they need.

Is that

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from now on you'll be looking at it

like a hawk and take personal

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responsibility for this. There is no

space for that. Is that then mean

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that if you are back here in six

months' time this material is still

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there that you will personally take

responsibility step down because you

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are not performing as performing?

I

will take responsibility for

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ensuring that this content does not

remain online. If it somehow gets

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passed our failsafes, I am not doing

my job to make sure we are doing the

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right thing to remove this content.

When we had evidence from YouTube in

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the past you were very clear when

there is copyrighted material such

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as songs, albums, the minute they

appear he removed them within

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minutes and yet you have got

nothing, you have not invested

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anything to match that kind of

copyright material and yet this

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stuff is dangerous. It leads to

people losing their lives. It is

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illegal. It is a cancer in society,

terrorism, and yet you are not

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putting the effort into it and

frankly I feel insulted that YouTube

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sent you to answer the questions.

This is not about your competence in

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your field, but actually as an

organisation as big as YouTube

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sending someone who does not know

the basic answers to the questions

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and yet you have had nearly a week's

noticed to be answering this.

I

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share your description of terrorism

as a cancer. That is why YouTube is

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dedicated to removing that content

from its platform and we are putting

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in place fixes every day, spending

millions of dollars to address this

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problem. Our technology is getting

faster and we are expanding the

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number of personnel who work on this

issue and we continue to make

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improvements. Are we perfect? No.

Will we be perfect? No, but we are

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getting better and better.

This is

not about perfection. You being the

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wrong person before this committee

and not having a clue what you are

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talking about. That is what I feel

has just happened in this evidence

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session.

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The blunt conclusion of Naz Shah.

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Britain's first female

Muslim Cabinet minister has said

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she won't be intimidated by letters

inciting violence against Muslims.

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On Monday, MPs condemned the letters

encouraging people to take part

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in a "Punish a Muslim" day.

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I received a message my lords from a

friend, long message at the end of

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it which she said I urge you please

do not go out on the 3rd of April.

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It is punished for today. My lords,

I will along with many other Muslims

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be going out on the 3rd of April

because we will not be intimidated

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in this way.

The Government condemns

the content of the letters, as I

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said in my original statement, as a

boring and misplaced in recent

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society. I know the prime Minister

who as home Secretary to the number

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of initiatives in partnership with

my noble friend will want to reflect

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on the exchanges yesterday in the

Other Place, the exchange of today,

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to see whether we can build on some

of the initiatives my noble friend

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has referred to and see whether

there is further action we can take

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in order to counter hate crime in

this country today.

Lord Young.

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From next year some British

institutions will no longer be able

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to return works of art looted

by the Nazis to their

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rightful owners.

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A Conservative MP

wants to change that.

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Throughout the 1930s and 40s,

property of all kinds was

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systematically stolen from millions

of people as part of Hitler's

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horrific genocidal campaign against

Europe's Jewish community. That

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included many precious works of art.

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Legislation enacted in 2009 allowed

some institutions to ignore

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statutory restrictions which prevent

them from giving away items

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in their collections -

but that permission expires

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in November next year.

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Nothing can make up for the trauma

and suffering of those who

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experienced the Holocaust at first

hand, or lost loved ones in that

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horror, but at least we can give

them back to precious works of art

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which were stolen from them. That is

what my proposal is designed to

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achieve.

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Theresa Villiers added

that her proposed Bill

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was supported by the Government.

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Fears about a trade war

with the United States and the take

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over battle for engineering giant

GKN were among the questions put

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to Business Department ministers.

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GKN employs 6,000 people

in the UK mostly in aerospace

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and automotive technology.

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It became a takeover target

after it issued profit

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warnings late last year.

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Some MPs have been calling

for a recent bid to be blocked.

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G8 -- GKN was forged in our

country's first Industrial

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Revolution, build the tanks used in

the D-Day landings and its

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innovative battery technology will

power our future economy. The

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Government industrial strategy

identifies potteries as a vast

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batteries as a key technology and

manufacturing as a priority sector.

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Yet the Secretary of State has

nothing to say about the hostile

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takeover of this great firm. So will

he answer this question. Why is it

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that as with arm and Unilever, all

too often the Secretary of State's

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industrial strategy seems to leave

great British success stories less

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great were less British?

Will the

honourable Lee I would have thought

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informed her so as to the

responsibility of Ministers --

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honourable Lady, Ministers under the

enterprise act. The enterprise act

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2000 to pass under the previous

labour government, which requires

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that Ministers can only intervene in

mergers that raise public interest

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concerns on the grounds of national

security, financial stability and

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media plurality. But she should know

that the Government reforms of

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corporate governments have made sure

that GKN had longer to prepare their

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defence, preventing the kind of

smash and grab raid that Taber --

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Cadbury is what subject to under the

previous government. And permission

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has been made for legally binding

undertakings to be given in takeover

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bids.

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Labour was worried about the impact

of the recent announcement by the US

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of import tariffs on

steel and aluminium.

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The president has revealed an

appetite for a trade war which began

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with the announcement of steel

tariffs and now includes cuts to put

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them on EU cars which could hit our

industry hard. Will the Secretary of

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State tell this House when he is

doing to avoid a trade war with the

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US? And should act in such tariffs

come into play what he will do to

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protect our steel and automotive

sector.

It does no one any good if

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we have tariffs in place that impede

trade and I would have thought that

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her endorsement of the approach that

the Trade Secretary has taken would

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be welcome.

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And a Conservative had a question

on the issue of US tariffs too.

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Can my right honourable friend

reissue of the House of the effort

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he is making to secure exemption for

UK produced steel and aluminium

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products from next week's imposition

of terrorist.

I can assure the right

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honourable friend I was in Brussels

yesterday meeting with the other

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European Union Ministers and trade

union leaders and the representative

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employees to make sure that we do

exactly what he says.

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Richard Harrington.

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Ministers were accused

of being complacent about the impact

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What should britain's response be

to the salisbury nerve agent attack?

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That was a questions posed

during a Westminster Hall debate

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on the diplomatic service

and its resources.

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The suggestions put forward by one

of the experts to respond to

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Russia's action was to withdraw from

the World Cup in Russia. Instead

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have the World Cup in England. That

would be an impressive way of

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putting pressure on Russia to bring

about change. It's a diplomatic way

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perhaps but maybe an undiplomatic

way of doing it but important way of

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doing it.

I don't think it's a

serious, nearly serious enough for

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the kind of step I believe this

government will need to take against

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Russia. I think to say you will not

send a lot of dignitaries to the

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World Cup is nowhere near good

enough and it's a pathetic response.

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We will need to do much better and

much tougher than that. So that they

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understand across the full spectrum

that this is the kind of behaviour

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of which we will not put up with.

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The Shadow foreign office minister

argued there had been a reduction

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in the department's budget.

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The smallest cut one can glean from

looking at the numbers is about 60%,

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which is nonetheless extremely

large. And it does seem to me that

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it is difficult for the Government

to project this global Britain role

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while at the same time reducing

resources in the foreign office.

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The minister said the government

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was committed to making sure

the diplomatic service received

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the resources that it needed.

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Now finally just to return

to the Spring Statement.

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And the Chancellor is always looking

for new ways to increase revenue.

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The longest-serving MP -

the Father of the House -

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is Ken Clarke, a former

Conservative Chancellor

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himself of course.

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He had an idea.

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Can I suggest that he looks at some

of the extraordinary tax anomalies

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he's inherited in the tax treatment

of older, prosperous people in

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full-time work in this country. It

cannot be right...

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I think I'm perfectly well placed.

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Philip Hammond said he would be

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looking at all options

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before the next budget.

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In the meantime, Mr Speaker, I can

tell my right honourable friend that

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there is a mechanism for voluntary

donations to her Majesty's treasury

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and in case it is misled I will send

a copy of our bank details.

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One Conservative later made

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the point that perhaps imposing

a new tax targeted at a core element

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of the party's support may not be

a good idea after all.

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And that's it.

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So for now from me,

Mandy Baker goodbye.

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