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day for primary school admissions in England, | :00:00. | :00:12. | |
head teachers say the system is too confusing and risks | :00:13. | :00:15. | |
Also ahead: They've signed up to donate, | :00:16. | :00:21. | |
New figures reveal hundreds of bereaved relatives have prevented | :00:22. | :00:25. | |
organs from being donated despite the wishes of a loved one. | :00:26. | :00:36. | |
I've been waiting on the organ donor register list for a kidney for seven | :00:37. | :00:40. | |
years now. One small step - Tim Peake gets | :00:41. | :00:42. | |
ready for the first ever space walk Hello, welcome to the programme, | :00:43. | :00:45. | |
we're on BBC Two and the BBC News Channel until | :00:46. | :00:59. | |
11am this morning. Head teachers are warning | :01:00. | :01:02. | |
that the admissions system for primary schools in England risks | :01:03. | :01:04. | |
harming children's education. On the deadline day for admissions, | :01:05. | :01:10. | |
the National Association of Head Teachers says the process | :01:11. | :01:12. | |
for entry is fragmented It's warning new schools are often | :01:13. | :01:14. | |
set up in areas where they aren't needed, while other areas | :01:15. | :01:20. | |
face huge shortages. We'll be debating the issue | :01:21. | :01:24. | |
with our studio audience a little later - but we want | :01:25. | :01:27. | |
to hear from you. If you've struggled to get your | :01:28. | :01:29. | |
child into school then do Texts will be charged | :01:30. | :01:32. | |
at the standard network rate. And, of course, you can watch | :01:33. | :01:35. | |
the programme online wherever you are - via the BBC | :01:36. | :01:37. | |
News app or our website. More than 500 families in the UK | :01:38. | :01:44. | |
have refused to let a loved one donate their organs since 2010, | :01:45. | :01:47. | |
even though their deceased relative NHS Blood and Transplant says it | :01:48. | :01:50. | |
wants to change its approach by no longer formally seeking the consent | :01:51. | :01:58. | |
of these families before organ Currently you have to register to be | :01:59. | :02:01. | |
a donor unless you live in Wales. They are the first UK nation to make | :02:02. | :02:06. | |
every adult a potential organ donor. Their system, known as presumed | :02:07. | :02:10. | |
consent, means that people who do not want to donate | :02:11. | :02:12. | |
their organs will have There are 22 million people | :02:13. | :02:14. | |
on the NHS organ donor register and currently 6,578 people | :02:15. | :02:21. | |
on the transplant waiting list. Joining the register is a legal | :02:22. | :02:24. | |
decision but support from families is needed to fulfil | :02:25. | :02:27. | |
the donor's wish. In 2014/2015 organ donation fell | :02:28. | :02:42. | |
for the first time in 11 years. One of the most common organs | :02:43. | :02:42. | |
needed is the kidney. Let's get more on this | :02:43. | :02:44. | |
with our health correspondent Just explain exactly how it works. | :02:45. | :02:52. | |
If somebody signs up and says they want to donate their organs, they | :02:53. | :02:57. | |
die, the relatives still need to get involved in the process and can | :02:58. | :03:02. | |
block it? Ultimately, when you are on the organ donor register it as a | :03:03. | :03:07. | |
legally binding decision, that is what NHS Blood and Transplant really | :03:08. | :03:11. | |
wants to drive home today and open up as a conversation. But these | :03:12. | :03:15. | |
situations happen when somebody has had a very catastrophic injury or | :03:16. | :03:20. | |
illness, they have -- may have been in a car crash or had a heart | :03:21. | :03:23. | |
attack. You are looking at families having one of the worst days they | :03:24. | :03:28. | |
possibly can. Clearly, when some are very upset and may not know about a | :03:29. | :03:34. | |
decision someone might have made some time ago to go on the organ | :03:35. | :03:36. | |
donor register, they find it out, it can be a shock and if it seems to | :03:37. | :03:40. | |
compound their distress, although there is legal authority to go | :03:41. | :03:43. | |
ahead, nobody wants to make the decision to go ahead with organ | :03:44. | :03:46. | |
donation in the face of refusal by families. What is striking today is | :03:47. | :03:52. | |
that the situation happens in quite a significant number of cases, | :03:53. | :03:57. | |
around 100 families a year refused to support donation in this | :03:58. | :04:00. | |
situation, that has stayed fairly stable in recent years. No NHS blood | :04:01. | :04:05. | |
and transport says it may no longer formally seek the consent of | :04:06. | :04:09. | |
families? -- now NHS Blood and Transplant says? They would | :04:10. | :04:13. | |
underline that they already have consent. They see this as a more | :04:14. | :04:20. | |
honest approach, a way of taking away the | :04:21. | :04:20. | |
honest approach, a way of taking from these families at a very | :04:21. | :04:22. | |
difficult time. Some families might still feel they are very opposed to | :04:23. | :04:28. | |
this, in which case they would possibly be asked to sign a special | :04:29. | :04:31. | |
form explaining why they are refusing in the face of this | :04:32. | :04:36. | |
consent. Looking at the system in Wales which is different, we can | :04:37. | :04:39. | |
perhaps learn lessons from the ultimate system, the presumed | :04:40. | :04:42. | |
consent. The system only came into effect about | :04:43. | :04:53. | |
six weeks ago. Everybody is presumed to be an organ | :04:54. | :05:12. | |
donor in Wales unless they have the doubt. They had to have a big public | :05:13. | :05:17. | |
education campaign. Scotland and Northern Ireland are very | :05:18. | :05:19. | |
interesting looking at what has happened in Wales. The system is | :05:20. | :05:28. | |
under pressure. Every year around 1000 people die because they have | :05:29. | :05:32. | |
not had a transplant. There is a need to get these organs, bringing | :05:33. | :05:36. | |
families along with the staff doing this very vital work. | :05:37. | :05:44. | |
With us now is Sally Johnson, director of organ donation | :05:45. | :05:46. | |
and transplantation at NHS Blood and Transplant. | :05:47. | :05:48. | |
James Hardie is a specialist nurse in organ donation. | :05:49. | :05:50. | |
He works with families through the consent process | :05:51. | :05:52. | |
for Imperial College Hospitals in London. | :05:53. | :05:53. | |
And we can speak to Nicola Pietrzyk and her ten-year-old son Matthew | :05:54. | :05:56. | |
Matthew is on the transplant list awaiting a new kidney. | :05:57. | :06:00. | |
Thank you very much for joining us. Sally, why are the wishes | :06:01. | :06:10. | |
Thank you very much for joining us. deceased being overridden to the | :06:11. | :06:10. | |
Thank you very much for joining us. extent that they are? It is a really | :06:11. | :06:16. | |
tough day for families. It is something that they did not expect | :06:17. | :06:19. | |
on morning that they would have to make this decision, that they would | :06:20. | :06:23. | |
be involved in the death of somebody that they loved. We know that the | :06:24. | :06:30. | |
majority of families are proud to support there are littered' wish. | :06:31. | :06:35. | |
There are a small number of families, about 100 year. It is | :06:36. | :06:39. | |
usually because they did not know that there role to have wanted to be | :06:40. | :06:44. | |
an organ donor. It comes as a complete surprise. On the worst day | :06:45. | :06:50. | |
of your life to discover this is an additional shock is really hard to | :06:51. | :06:54. | |
take in. What they don't always appreciate is that their relative | :06:55. | :06:59. | |
has given legally valid consent to be an organ donor. We want to make | :07:00. | :07:04. | |
that clear to them to try to make them understand that they don't need | :07:05. | :07:07. | |
to make the decision, to take that virgin away from them, make it a bit | :07:08. | :07:14. | |
easier and, really importantly, somebody wants to be an organ donor, | :07:15. | :07:17. | |
we should try to make that happen -- to take that decision away from | :07:18. | :07:23. | |
them. Could a family expressing a view be ignored, because legally the | :07:24. | :07:29. | |
consent is already there? Sensitivities come into play. It | :07:30. | :07:33. | |
consent is already there? that why it is not happening? We are | :07:34. | :07:36. | |
dealing with human beings at a really, really tough time. Of course | :07:37. | :07:39. | |
we are sensitive to how families feel. I need to be able to make sure | :07:40. | :07:45. | |
that people like James and our other specialist nurses have the tools to | :07:46. | :07:50. | |
represent the voice of the donor who wanted to save someone else's life. | :07:51. | :07:55. | |
Why ask the families if it adds to pressure at a very difficult time | :07:56. | :07:58. | |
and they don't have to give consent, why? We need to involve families in | :07:59. | :08:04. | |
the process. We don't know what risk those organs might pose to the | :08:05. | :08:08. | |
recipient. The only way we can really find out some of that | :08:09. | :08:12. | |
information about people's lifestyle, their behaviour, we have | :08:13. | :08:19. | |
to work closely with families to find out whether the organs are safe | :08:20. | :08:25. | |
to use. It happens the other way round, sometimes someone who had not | :08:26. | :08:29. | |
volunteer to have their organs donated, the family would say, we | :08:30. | :08:36. | |
are happy to go ahead? Absolutely. Lots of times, 60% of families | :08:37. | :08:39. | |
donate to organ donation. Some of those will be people on the | :08:40. | :08:44. | |
register, some people who have never discussed it with their family, but | :08:45. | :08:48. | |
the families say, you know, that person was the sort of person who | :08:49. | :08:52. | |
would have wanted to help others, we are happy to support that. James, | :08:53. | :08:58. | |
you are a specialist nurse working with families through the consent | :08:59. | :09:03. | |
process. Talk as too late. You need to be incredibly sensitive in how | :09:04. | :09:09. | |
and when you raise it, and it has to be raised quickly? Yes, as Sally | :09:10. | :09:17. | |
says, people who have become organ donors have suffered from sudden | :09:18. | :09:22. | |
catastrophic illnesses like a heart attack, road traffic accident or | :09:23. | :09:26. | |
brain haemorrhage. Often the request for organ donation is taking place | :09:27. | :09:30. | |
as little as an hour or less after they had been told that their loved | :09:31. | :09:34. | |
one has died or is likely to die. It is a very sensitive conversation | :09:35. | :09:38. | |
that we undertake in collaboration with intensive care colleagues to | :09:39. | :09:46. | |
try to ascertain how we will move forward. Why do people say no when | :09:47. | :09:47. | |
they know the loved one had said yes in life? It is very difficult to | :09:48. | :09:53. | |
fully appreciate and understand those reasons. The timing is very | :09:54. | :09:59. | |
challenging for families. This is not a decision they are being asked | :10:00. | :10:07. | |
to make in a normal state of mind. It is a highly and shoes and | :10:08. | :10:11. | |
stressful time. As Sally said, not knowing what your loved one wanted | :10:12. | :10:14. | |
places an additional pressure on you, which is why we encourage | :10:15. | :10:19. | |
people, if they have signed up for the organ donor register, is to make | :10:20. | :10:24. | |
sure that their relatives are aware. Let's bring in Matthew Ebden Nicola | :10:25. | :10:28. | |
Pietrzyk, Matthew is ten, how long have you been on the transplant | :10:29. | :10:33. | |
Pietrzyk, Matthew is ten, how long waiting for a new kidney? How long | :10:34. | :10:36. | |
has he been waiting, Nicola? Seven and a half years. What has that been | :10:37. | :10:43. | |
like? Torture. You are waiting everyday for a phone call that we | :10:44. | :10:50. | |
feel will probably never come. Matthew, you are having dialysis | :10:51. | :10:54. | |
right now, aren't you? You needed for five hours today? Year, I am | :10:55. | :11:00. | |
having to have it for five hours today. What does that mean for you? | :11:01. | :11:06. | |
You are ten, presumably you want to run around and you have to be | :11:07. | :11:10. | |
conducted to this machine quite a lot of the time? What is it like for | :11:11. | :11:17. | |
you? It is really boring and sad that I can't play out with my | :11:18. | :11:24. | |
friends on my street after school. But, like... Unfortunately we have | :11:25. | :11:36. | |
lost the sound with Matthew and Nicola, we will try to fix the | :11:37. | :11:40. | |
technical issues and go back to them as soon as we can. An example of | :11:41. | :11:46. | |
people who are waiting and knowing at any moment they might get that | :11:47. | :11:50. | |
call and then had to spring into action. Examples like that are | :11:51. | :12:01. | |
poignant. It is such a personal decision deciding whether to opt in | :12:02. | :12:05. | |
or out and what happens with relatives? Wales has this different | :12:06. | :12:13. | |
system, what do you figure is the best system? At day -- we are | :12:14. | :12:29. | |
watching closely, doing our best. It took Wales several years to bring in | :12:30. | :12:34. | |
the new system but it can't immediately... Legislation can't | :12:35. | :12:37. | |
immediately solve the problem. People like Matthew needs an organ | :12:38. | :12:43. | |
today, he can't wait. We need everybody to think about being a | :12:44. | :12:49. | |
donor, record their wishes and talk to the family. I mentioned how it | :12:50. | :12:55. | |
can work the other way around... Oh, I think we have them back. Join in, | :12:56. | :13:02. | |
Nicola? I appreciate that bringing legislation and will not change | :13:03. | :13:14. | |
things, but I think we need to change opinions so bad for the | :13:15. | :13:20. | |
future we do not have this problem, and we are in a situation... SOUND | :13:21. | :13:34. | |
FAILED. We have intermittent issues. We are talking about sometimes | :13:35. | :13:36. | |
relatives deciding after a loved one We are talking about sometimes | :13:37. | :13:41. | |
has died that their organs should not be donated -- should be donated, | :13:42. | :13:46. | |
even if they had not given consent. You could argue that that is | :13:47. | :13:51. | |
overwriting file wishes because maybe they did not consent because | :13:52. | :13:55. | |
they did not want to. How engaged people with organ donation? People | :13:56. | :14:00. | |
are getting more in caged and programmes like this help to spread | :14:01. | :14:06. | |
the message. -- more engaged. The more we talk about it, the more | :14:07. | :14:09. | |
likely it is that everyone has made a decision. At the end of the day, | :14:10. | :14:13. | |
you can join the organ donor register to say you wish to be a | :14:14. | :14:19. | |
donor, you can record an absolute refusal if that is what you want, | :14:20. | :14:21. | |
but if you refusal if that is what you want, | :14:22. | :14:26. | |
would say remember you are more likely to need an organ and be in a | :14:27. | :14:30. | |
position to be able to give one, so we desperately need everybody to | :14:31. | :14:34. | |
think about saying yes. It is perfectly easy to make your decision | :14:35. | :14:39. | |
known. If you don't want to go online, you can do it via our call | :14:40. | :14:44. | |
centre, or you can legally consent or refuse your consent by talking to | :14:45. | :14:55. | |
your family. James, what difference does it make after somebody has died | :14:56. | :14:57. | |
if they are an organ donor, in terms of how long a body has to be held? | :14:58. | :15:01. | |
There are practical issues coming into play which is possibly one of | :15:02. | :15:06. | |
the things that is off-putting when people are dealing with death? There | :15:07. | :15:10. | |
is never any suffering by that person as a consequence of their | :15:11. | :15:15. | |
decision to become an organ donor. I think the positives that come from | :15:16. | :15:23. | |
that to the donor Bliss family are enormous. Annually we have a | :15:24. | :15:26. | |
ceremony by the order of St John to recognise the amazing gift that a | :15:27. | :15:34. | |
make, which brings the family of the donor great comfort to know that | :15:35. | :15:34. | |
their loved one died and did something incredible, saving and | :15:35. | :15:36. | |
changing the lives of others. Would they ever meet in person that the | :15:37. | :15:44. | |
organs were donated to? Orchid Asian listed in the greatest | :15:45. | :15:46. | |
confidentiality, but often the recipient at the donor will wish to | :15:47. | :15:50. | |
send letters to each other -- organ donation is. They come to the | :15:51. | :15:58. | |
specialist nurses, we ensure that confidentiality is maintained. Just | :15:59. | :16:03. | |
going back to the process, what difference does it make up this be | :16:04. | :16:07. | |
has died, if organs will be donated in terms of what happens to the | :16:08. | :16:13. | |
body, and does it have any impact on time frames that happen after death? | :16:14. | :16:20. | |
People are often concerned that it might delay a funeral. Once somebody | :16:21. | :16:28. | |
has died and organ donation has been agreed as the way forward, we call | :16:29. | :16:33. | |
in a retrieval team. They will retrieve the organs just like any | :16:34. | :16:39. | |
other operation, really. Then our specialist nurses perform last | :16:40. | :16:45. | |
officers, make sure that the body is cared for and is ready to be seen by | :16:46. | :16:49. | |
the families when it is returned to them, if that is what they want. One | :16:50. | :16:58. | |
person says families have no right to block the donation, they would | :16:59. | :17:00. | |
not block their inheritance, would they? Another person says, families | :17:01. | :17:06. | |
should not be able to veto what position and adult made. -- what | :17:07. | :17:14. | |
decision an adult mode. Another person says, the rest of the UK | :17:15. | :17:22. | |
needs to follow Wales in terms of consent, she says she has cystic | :17:23. | :17:25. | |
fibrosis and she needs help to lead a normal life. Another person says | :17:26. | :17:35. | |
it is the same as contesting a will. We can go back to Nicola and | :17:36. | :17:39. | |
Matthew. We have had trouble talking to you, I don't know if you have | :17:40. | :17:43. | |
been able to hear much of the discussion, but you said that you | :17:44. | :17:45. | |
would like everywhere to follow the example of Wales with a system where | :17:46. | :17:52. | |
people have got to opt out. What about the impact on a family like | :17:53. | :17:58. | |
yours if someone... If an organ donation comes through? What people | :17:59. | :18:05. | |
don't realise, Matthew Elliott asked in use has relied on a machine every | :18:06. | :18:11. | |
single day -- Matthew has relied. He has relied on a machine to keep him | :18:12. | :18:16. | |
alive every single day. Such a shame, we are having technical | :18:17. | :18:22. | |
difficulties, so frustrating. Nicola donated one of her own kidneys to | :18:23. | :18:27. | |
Matthew, but it did not work, unfortunately, so they are still | :18:28. | :18:29. | |
waiting and hoping that they will get the call one day. Thanks for | :18:30. | :18:39. | |
joining us. Please keep your thoughts coming in. Still to come, | :18:40. | :18:41. | |
if you eat a bar of chocolate, how long do you need to exercise to burn | :18:42. | :18:47. | |
off the calories? We look at new food labels which will tell you | :18:48. | :18:48. | |
exactly that. And as the deadline runs out | :18:49. | :18:51. | |
for primary school applications, we discuss the pressure put | :18:52. | :18:53. | |
on parents and schools to get children into their | :18:54. | :18:57. | |
preferred school. BT has been given final approval to | :18:58. | :19:10. | |
take over the mobile phone operator EE, in an estimated deal worth ?12.5 | :19:11. | :19:13. | |
billion. Head teachers demand action to ease | :19:14. | :19:16. | |
the pressure on school places in England - on the deadline day | :19:17. | :19:18. | |
for primary school admissions. Three arrests over the Indonesia gun | :19:19. | :19:23. | |
and bomb attacks that killed two people - so-called Islamic State | :19:24. | :19:24. | |
says it was behind it. Here in the UK - the NHS | :19:25. | :19:28. | |
changes its policy on organ donation to cut the numbers of bereaved | :19:29. | :19:31. | |
families blocking the use of organs from people who'd given | :19:32. | :19:34. | |
their consent to the procedure. Matthew has been waiting now seven | :19:35. | :19:43. | |
and a half years, you are waiting every day for a phone call that we | :19:44. | :19:45. | |
feel probably will never come. Anglican leaders signal | :19:46. | :19:49. | |
their continued opposition to gay marriage by imposing sanctions | :19:50. | :19:52. | |
against the US Episcopal Church, Major Tim Peake prepares | :19:53. | :19:54. | |
for the walk of his life. He'll undertake an historic six hour | :19:55. | :20:03. | |
space walk starting at lunchtime. Let's catch up with all the sport | :20:04. | :20:07. | |
now and join Ore Oduba. How are England's cricketers getting | :20:08. | :20:10. | |
on in South Africa this morning? They are doing a bit better, South | :20:11. | :20:26. | |
Africa are now all out, 313, but the hosts have added 83 runs for the | :20:27. | :20:32. | |
last three wickets, and so England would have hoped to have got them | :20:33. | :20:36. | |
out for a little bit less than that. England are now trying to get back | :20:37. | :20:41. | |
to par in that Test match. England are leading 1-0 in the four match | :20:42. | :20:47. | |
series. We are going to be talking tennis, the draw has been made for | :20:48. | :20:49. | |
the first grand slam of the tennis, the draw has been made for | :20:50. | :20:54. | |
the Australian open, Andy Murray will begin against the aid senior | :20:55. | :21:01. | |
German, Alexander Spero -- 18-year-old German. Andy Murray has | :21:02. | :21:07. | |
made the final four times in Melbourne, but lost them all, so he | :21:08. | :21:11. | |
is hoping for fifth time lucky. Johanna Konta has been given a tough | :21:12. | :21:18. | |
tour against Venus Williams, the eighth St, so that is a very tricky | :21:19. | :21:21. | |
start for her. The tournament begins on Monday morning -- the eighth | :21:22. | :21:28. | |
seed. Ronnie O'Sullivan and Ross Hawkins are into the semifinals of | :21:29. | :21:32. | |
the Masters in the snooker. Thanks for joining us. The Health Secretary | :21:33. | :21:39. | |
now has been speaking. The Health Secretary says he cannot | :21:40. | :21:42. | |
give an "absolutely guarantee" all accident and emergency | :21:43. | :21:45. | |
departments will remain open when doctors go on strike | :21:46. | :21:47. | |
again next month. Jeremy Hunt says the government | :21:48. | :21:49. | |
was "busting a gut" and "hoped" Talks with the BMA at ACAS | :21:50. | :21:51. | |
will continue today., and he hopes it would not be | :21:52. | :21:55. | |
necessary to impose a new contract He has been talking after the | :21:56. | :22:05. | |
strike. Yes, you might remember there were plenty of medics who | :22:06. | :22:08. | |
thought Jeremy Hunt was not as visible as he might have been in | :22:09. | :22:12. | |
recent days, not doing as many interviews as they would have hoped, | :22:13. | :22:16. | |
but he was everywhere this morning. He has a good manner for this, he | :22:17. | :22:21. | |
has the air of not a brutal minister, but more of a disappointed | :22:22. | :22:31. | |
father, who is sure you will come round | :22:32. | :22:31. | |
father, who is sure you will come that he will get his way. And that | :22:32. | :22:36. | |
will be emergency care, because the difference if the next strike goes | :22:37. | :22:40. | |
ahead, that will be withdrawn by junior doctors, as well. Very | :22:41. | :22:45. | |
gently, in that way of his, he is pointing out that it is still | :22:46. | :22:50. | |
possible that in some places in England, accident and emergency | :22:51. | :22:53. | |
services might have too close for the day, and this is what he told me | :22:54. | :22:55. | |
earlier. We hope that every A department | :22:56. | :23:03. | |
will be able to open. At the moment the signs | :23:04. | :23:03. | |
are that they probably will. We are going through an exhaustive | :23:04. | :23:06. | |
process to check what is going It's obviously a very big deal | :23:07. | :23:08. | |
if junior doctors are not providing But we are working very hard | :23:09. | :23:13. | |
and also talking with the BMA to try to do what we can to make | :23:14. | :23:22. | |
sure that patients are kept safe Right now that is a hope | :23:23. | :23:25. | |
and not a guarantee? It is a hope and not a guarantee | :23:26. | :23:29. | |
but I think we will be able to say in the next week whether we are | :23:30. | :23:33. | |
confident we can deliver that. Finally, again, to check my | :23:34. | :23:36. | |
understanding of your words, you seem to suggest there | :23:37. | :23:39. | |
is room for negotiation, The talks at ACAS today | :23:40. | :23:41. | |
are going on and you are not saying "We are adamant we are not moving | :23:42. | :23:50. | |
an inch", there is the possibility that there could be concessions | :23:51. | :23:53. | |
on your side and some sort of deal? We are absolutely prepared | :23:54. | :23:56. | |
to negotiate and both sides have We have to stick within the cost | :23:57. | :23:58. | |
envelope that we have. In the end both sides want to do | :23:59. | :24:05. | |
the same thing which is to be able to promise NHS patients | :24:06. | :24:09. | |
they will get the same high-quality care seven days a week and I think | :24:10. | :24:11. | |
that's what doctors want and it is what I want | :24:12. | :24:14. | |
as the Health Secretary. We should be able to find a deal | :24:15. | :24:17. | |
which is why these strikes The indications are, although no one | :24:18. | :24:25. | |
tells you exactly what is going on in the room, it is the issue of | :24:26. | :24:29. | |
anti-social hours, how much is classed as anti-social witch doctors | :24:30. | :24:38. | |
can claim extra pay for, that is the crux of the dispute -- which | :24:39. | :24:43. | |
doctors. And there is the tension, of course, but there is the broader | :24:44. | :24:49. | |
conversation, trying to win the public sympathy. There was an aide | :24:50. | :24:55. | |
there, for Jeremy Hunt, ready to take a film Jeremy Hunt, which could | :24:56. | :24:59. | |
be tweeted so the Department of Health could get their message out, | :25:00. | :25:03. | |
they are taking that side of this dispute very seriously indeed. | :25:04. | :25:05. | |
Thanks for joining us. Coming up: Making history in space - | :25:06. | :25:08. | |
British astronaut Tim Peake prepares to step outside the | :25:09. | :25:10. | |
International Space Station. Food labelling needs to change | :25:11. | :25:12. | |
so people can see how much exercise they would need to do | :25:13. | :25:20. | |
to burn off the calories - that's according to a leading | :25:21. | :25:23. | |
public health charity. The Royal Society | :25:24. | :25:28. | |
for Public Health - the RSPH - said "activity | :25:29. | :25:31. | |
equivalent" calorie labelling should be put on the front of food | :25:32. | :25:35. | |
and drink packs, with pictures showing the exercise needed | :25:36. | :25:38. | |
to match the calorie intake. They've released a poll, too, | :25:39. | :25:40. | |
which found that more than 60% of the 2000 people they asked | :25:41. | :25:43. | |
would back the change. We can speak now to Shirley Cramer, | :25:44. | :25:48. | |
the chief executive of the RSPH and Dr Sally Norton, | :25:49. | :25:51. | |
a UK Leading Health Expert and NHS Widely think this would be a good | :25:52. | :26:04. | |
idea? -- why do you think. We think this is a good idea, because we have | :26:05. | :26:08. | |
a problem with obesity and overweight, 60% of the adult | :26:09. | :26:12. | |
population are overweight or obese and that is climbing. We need to | :26:13. | :26:18. | |
think of a number of ways where we and that is climbing. We need to | :26:19. | :26:20. | |
can provide better information for people about the food they are | :26:21. | :26:24. | |
eating, we know that people do use the front of pack traffic light | :26:25. | :26:29. | |
labelling, but half of the people are also confused about that. We | :26:30. | :26:33. | |
were looking for something which might make it much simpler, clear | :26:34. | :26:39. | |
and very quick to get the information, so that you can make a | :26:40. | :26:42. | |
good decision about the food you are buying. What would it look like on a | :26:43. | :26:50. | |
pack? We have done some examples which are pictorial, because you | :26:51. | :26:54. | |
merit things and many words are difficult to read quickly. -- | :26:55. | :27:00. | |
numeric. There is a picture of someone walking or running or | :27:01. | :27:04. | |
swimming or cycling and the number of calories next to that, so you can | :27:05. | :27:08. | |
see that if you have a packet of crisps that is 170 calories and that | :27:09. | :27:14. | |
will take you 30 minutes of walking to burn off those calories. Doctor | :27:15. | :27:22. | |
Norton, is it a simple equation, to make when you are working out, what | :27:23. | :27:26. | |
you need to do to burn off a certain amount of calories? We are in danger | :27:27. | :27:31. | |
of being overly simplistic, but it is right that we need to be | :27:32. | :27:35. | |
promoting the message that we need to eat and move more to counteract | :27:36. | :27:37. | |
the amount of food and drink to eat and move more to counteract | :27:38. | :27:45. | |
taking in, but we are in danger of oversimplifying it and giving the | :27:46. | :27:48. | |
wrong message, that all calories are created equal, and they are. If it | :27:49. | :27:53. | |
takes you 20 minutes to run off the calories of a can of Coke, that has | :27:54. | :27:57. | |
got nine teaspoons of sugar in it and know nutritional value, you | :27:58. | :28:01. | |
could be having something more nutritious, vitamins, proteins, in | :28:02. | :28:06. | |
that, as well, and so it is important that we don't think we can | :28:07. | :28:09. | |
eat whatever we like as long as we run it off later. Do you think that | :28:10. | :28:17. | |
this labelling would be a good idea? It is right that people are confused | :28:18. | :28:20. | |
with food labelling, there is so much information, and I have trouble | :28:21. | :28:24. | |
reading it half the time. You are looking for things like the number | :28:25. | :28:29. | |
portions which are contained in that serving which is often very | :28:30. | :28:32. | |
difficult to find, and so we do need something which is very quick | :28:33. | :28:35. | |
because people often scan labels and we need a clear message that this is | :28:36. | :28:40. | |
something which is quite high in calories and might not be good for | :28:41. | :28:44. | |
you. What do you say to that, surely? There is a drive at the | :28:45. | :28:50. | |
moment to look at the way that food is labelled and simple fire, but is | :28:51. | :28:59. | |
this an over simple -- simplified, but is this an over simplification? | :29:00. | :29:05. | |
We are hoping that the government will do something very substantial | :29:06. | :29:11. | |
about sugar in childhood obesity strategies, but for most people are | :29:12. | :29:16. | |
it is quite confusing, there's a lot to read. We want parents and others | :29:17. | :29:22. | |
to be able to make choices based on the evidence, and if you are an | :29:23. | :29:27. | |
adult woman you need around 2000 calories a day and a man needs | :29:28. | :29:36. | |
around 2500 calories. Just understanding having two packets of | :29:37. | :29:40. | |
crisps... We have some breaking news, Lord Janner's child abuse case | :29:41. | :29:44. | |
has been formally dropped in the light of the death of the | :29:45. | :29:50. | |
87-year-old. The seedings were left in limbo following the announcement | :29:51. | :29:55. | |
that he died, but this morning the prosecutor told the trial judge that | :29:56. | :29:57. | |
the Crown would not go ahead with the planned trial -- the proceedings | :29:58. | :30:03. | |
were left in limbo. The trial was due to happen at the Old Bailey in | :30:04. | :30:07. | |
April. Lord Janner was charged with sexual offences dating back to the | :30:08. | :30:11. | |
1960s against nine alleged victims who were mostly under 16 at the | :30:12. | :30:16. | |
time. He had been declared unfit to stand trial, due to irreversible | :30:17. | :30:21. | |
dementia, and you might remember the controversy over the decision not to | :30:22. | :30:25. | |
charging by the Crown Prosecution Service because of his health. It | :30:26. | :30:32. | |
led to a review and a decision was taken that there should be a trial | :30:33. | :30:36. | |
of the facts, and that would have meant that effectively a trial going | :30:37. | :30:41. | |
ahead but without him participating meant that effectively a trial going | :30:42. | :30:44. | |
and that was due to happen in April. He died at the age of 87 and that | :30:45. | :30:48. | |
was being looked at, but now it will not go ahead. We can speak to our | :30:49. | :30:53. | |
home affairs correspondent, who is outside the Old Bailey. Is this a | :30:54. | :30:58. | |
surprise, that the trial will now not go ahead? | :30:59. | :31:03. | |
Not really. The court was told by Richard Whitton QC, representing the | :31:04. | :31:11. | |
Crown Prosecution Service, that ordinarily death brought criminal | :31:12. | :31:16. | |
prosecutions to an end because there was no longer any one to convict or | :31:17. | :31:20. | |
acquit. He said there was speculation after Lord Janner Bliss | :31:21. | :31:26. | |
death that that might be different, for this process known as a trial of | :31:27. | :31:30. | |
the facts. But the court heard that was not the case, there is no | :31:31. | :31:36. | |
provision in law for posthumous proceedings, even if a defendant was | :31:37. | :31:41. | |
found unfit to stand trial, as was the case for Lord Janner. After a | :31:42. | :31:47. | |
hearing which lasted no more than 12 minutes, the court was told that it | :31:48. | :31:50. | |
had a certified copy of Lord Janner Bliss death certificate, the judge, | :31:51. | :31:56. | |
Mr Justice Openshaw, said that criminal proceedings against Lord | :31:57. | :32:00. | |
Janner were entered by his death and the file would be marked, the | :32:01. | :32:05. | |
defendant is deceased. -- were ended by his death. Throughout, Lord | :32:06. | :32:10. | |
Janner insisted he was innocent of any of the allegations he was | :32:11. | :32:14. | |
accused of, and his family has also said throughout that he is innocent. | :32:15. | :32:21. | |
A lot of pressure was brought to bear after the Crown Prosecution | :32:22. | :32:23. | |
Service initially decided that a trial could not go ahead because of | :32:24. | :32:28. | |
the State of his health. This was something that the alleged victims | :32:29. | :32:32. | |
had wanted to see. It is too early for any reaction, but what might you | :32:33. | :32:41. | |
expect to hear on that front? This is now the end of the criminal | :32:42. | :32:47. | |
process. The allegations against Lord Janner will also be considered | :32:48. | :32:52. | |
as part of the God art public inquiry into historical child sex | :32:53. | :33:01. | |
abuse. -- the Fed inquiry. That is an inquiry, not the same as criminal | :33:02. | :33:07. | |
proceedings. This does not prevent any of the alleged victims from | :33:08. | :33:15. | |
pursuing civil proceedings, that is claims against Lord Janner pars | :33:16. | :33:21. | |
estate. Thank you. That's quickly returned to the | :33:22. | :33:25. | |
conversation on food labelling. I interrupted you, Sally Norton. We | :33:26. | :33:32. | |
interrupted to go to the Old Bailey. Just to summarise what you were | :33:33. | :33:34. | |
saying about food labelling and the best way forward, there are so many | :33:35. | :33:39. | |
suggestions about what is the best thing. Should everybody be working | :33:40. | :33:43. | |
together to come up with the ideal label? That would be a good idea. | :33:44. | :33:50. | |
These are voluntary food labels. We heard from the food and drink | :33:51. | :33:53. | |
Federation when they saw the policy paper on the labelling and they were | :33:54. | :34:00. | |
very supportive and encouraging. I think if the food industry | :34:01. | :34:02. | |
understand the importance of labelling in having the right | :34:03. | :34:06. | |
information, and appropriate information, to families, we are | :34:07. | :34:13. | |
hopeful we can work together and get the right information out. What | :34:14. | :34:17. | |
would an ideal label look like for you, Sally? It has to be clear and | :34:18. | :34:22. | |
easy to read at a glance, people don't spend more than a few seconds | :34:23. | :34:26. | |
reading it. We have to be careful that manufactures -- manufacturers | :34:27. | :34:32. | |
are not using false labelling, calling things natural, organic, | :34:33. | :34:37. | |
farm fresh and these different terms that make people think they are | :34:38. | :34:44. | |
healthy. People are more likely to buy them and eat more of them, maybe | :34:45. | :34:48. | |
even pay more for them. There are lots of aspect is in terms of food | :34:49. | :34:53. | |
labelling packaging. Thank you both very much. Let us know what you | :34:54. | :34:55. | |
think. Still to come today: David Bowie's | :34:56. | :34:56. | |
music is expected to top the UK His album Blackstar is on course | :34:57. | :34:59. | |
for the number one spot, We'll reflect on the reaction | :35:00. | :35:06. | |
to his death this week. They've been dubbed the bad grandpas | :35:07. | :35:07. | |
- the elderly gang responsible for the ?14 million Hatton Garden | :35:08. | :35:09. | |
raid are facing jail after the final It took them two nights over Easter | :35:10. | :35:12. | |
weekend last year to breach a vault in London and make away with cash, | :35:13. | :35:20. | |
gold, diamonds and other jewellery. It was the work of a group of men | :35:21. | :35:26. | |
in their 60s and 70s who plotted They were caught after secret | :35:27. | :35:30. | |
recording devices planted in their cars captured them boasting | :35:31. | :35:34. | |
about being involved in the biggest It's emerged police are looking | :35:35. | :35:36. | |
for a mystery eighth suspect amid fears he may of fled overseas | :35:37. | :35:43. | |
with ?10 million in loot. Our correspondent | :35:44. | :35:48. | |
Daniela Relph explains. Hardly the usual suspect, a combined | :35:49. | :36:03. | |
age of 278. When others would be enjoying retirement, these four men | :36:04. | :36:07. | |
were plotting a daring heist. Brian Reader was the one the other is | :36:08. | :36:11. | |
called the master. The oldest, even used a free bus pass to get Hatton | :36:12. | :36:19. | |
Garden. CCTV placed the scene disguised as a workman. He came with | :36:20. | :36:24. | |
experience. Brian Reader appeared in the dark handcuffs to buying clothes | :36:25. | :36:28. | |
police officers. Decades earlier, the notorious ?26 million robbery | :36:29. | :36:36. | |
from a warehouse at Heathrow. In his mid-40s then, he was sentenced to | :36:37. | :36:39. | |
eight years in jail for handling stolen gold bullion. Terry Perkins | :36:40. | :36:47. | |
celebrated his 67th birthday during the burglary. Here he is, pushing a | :36:48. | :36:53. | |
wheelie bin of stolen jewels. A diabetic, he brought his medication | :36:54. | :36:58. | |
in, he said that without it he would have been taken out in a bin. He had | :36:59. | :37:04. | |
a criminal past, sentenced to 22 years for his part in the ?6 million | :37:05. | :37:08. | |
raid on the Security Express headquarters in London. The | :37:09. | :37:12. | |
detective who helped convict him as astonished at his latest crime. I | :37:13. | :37:17. | |
was absolutely flabbergasted. I would have thought he would have | :37:18. | :37:21. | |
learned a lesson and retired and got on with his property letting. | :37:22. | :37:27. | |
Obviously he decided to have one more go for his pension. 74-year-old | :37:28. | :37:33. | |
Kenny Collins was the lookout on the night of the burglary. Although some | :37:34. | :37:37. | |
of the group claimed he fell asleep during the coach at ease. He was | :37:38. | :37:40. | |
filmed the morning after walking away from the scene, smartly | :37:41. | :37:46. | |
dressed, briefcase in hand. He had helped plan the heist and the | :37:47. | :37:48. | |
aftermath and often brought helped plan the heist and the | :37:49. | :37:54. | |
Dempsey with him. Danny Jones was described in court as the eccentric, | :37:55. | :37:58. | |
a Walter Mitty character who liked to wear a fez and his mother's | :37:59. | :38:05. | |
dressing gown to bed. He admitted that he had hidden some of the | :38:06. | :38:10. | |
jewellery under family memorial stones at a north London cemetery. | :38:11. | :38:15. | |
The police found far more than he revealed. He was the youngest of | :38:16. | :38:21. | |
four at 60, here on a walkie-talkie appearing to coordinate events. He | :38:22. | :38:26. | |
had a history of burglary. The raid as Hatton Garden over the Easter | :38:27. | :38:30. | |
weekend was bowled but flawed. What would make a group of pensioners, | :38:31. | :38:35. | |
even with their criminal past, take such an enormous risk? This kind of | :38:36. | :38:42. | |
criminal enterprise makes them feel alive, takes them out of the | :38:43. | :38:49. | |
banality, the ordinariness of their everyday lives. It is the dream | :38:50. | :38:51. | |
aspirational job that everybody in this kind of world, that kind of | :38:52. | :38:56. | |
underworld, dreams about. Even at their rage, they couldn't resist. | :38:57. | :39:01. | |
But their final crime was too ambitious. They were too naive. This | :39:02. | :39:08. | |
group of unusual suspects now face spending their twilight years in | :39:09. | :39:09. | |
jail. Taxi driver Jon Harbinson | :39:10. | :39:12. | |
was cleared of his alleged role He was asked to look after three | :39:13. | :39:14. | |
bags at his home by his uncle William Lincoln, who was convicted | :39:15. | :39:18. | |
yesterday, having been told they did not contain | :39:19. | :39:21. | |
anything important. Thank you very much for joining us. | :39:22. | :39:30. | |
It has been a court case that has captured the public imagination | :39:31. | :39:33. | |
echoes of the ages of the defendants as much as anything? Indeed, | :39:34. | :39:38. | |
absolutely, everyone has talked about it. That is why you have me | :39:39. | :39:45. | |
here, I suppose. Your client was cleared of involvement in what | :39:46. | :39:49. | |
happened. What were the allegations against him? They allege that he was | :39:50. | :39:54. | |
a driver and he stored some of the loot. Luckily, you was innocent, it | :39:55. | :39:59. | |
was nothing to do with me. He was falsely accused. His uncle was one | :40:00. | :40:07. | |
of those convicted? Yes, his uncle, Billy Lincoln, Billy the Fish, as he | :40:08. | :40:12. | |
was called in court, was convicted of both charges, hiding the loot and | :40:13. | :40:19. | |
his part in the burglary. An interesting case to be involved | :40:20. | :40:23. | |
with, extraordinary, talk us through... You were seeing it at | :40:24. | :40:31. | |
close quarters. Quite an audacious crime. They went in over the Easter | :40:32. | :40:42. | |
weekend, having taken on a faulty piece of equipment, a hydraulic | :40:43. | :40:43. | |
pump, which was used to push away the Cabinet once they drilled into | :40:44. | :40:48. | |
the vault, once it broke, they had to go away, waited a day, went to a | :40:49. | :40:52. | |
DIY shop, bought a replacement pump and went back two nights later. It | :40:53. | :40:59. | |
takes courage, whatever else you think of these people. If you wanted | :41:00. | :41:07. | |
to be flippant you could almost say it is like a script out of a | :41:08. | :41:10. | |
Hollywood movie because of the way that the various defendants have | :41:11. | :41:15. | |
been characterised, their age and their characters? Indeed, we British | :41:16. | :41:20. | |
quite like our heist. There was no violence involved, no one was | :41:21. | :41:25. | |
surprised or scared by it, they went in and they went out overnight and | :41:26. | :41:33. | |
got away with ?14 million worth of jewellery, at least initially. | :41:34. | :41:36. | |
Unlike perhaps the great train robbery, which captured our | :41:37. | :41:40. | |
imaginations 40 or 50 years ago, where we sometimes forget that the | :41:41. | :41:43. | |
train driver was quite badly injured in that particular heist, this one | :41:44. | :41:51. | |
we can be forgiven for having some grudging admiration for it. Thank | :41:52. | :41:55. | |
you very much, barrister Philip Sinclair. | :41:56. | :41:57. | |
Still to come: Do get in touch with us this morning if you've | :41:58. | :42:00. | |
struggled to get your children into the school you want them | :42:01. | :42:03. | |
We'll be discussing the pressure on places just after ten o'clock. | :42:04. | :42:08. | |
Let's get the latest weather update with Matt. | :42:09. | :42:14. | |
What is the latest? I thought before we looked at the UK whether we would | :42:15. | :42:21. | |
step further out across the Atlantic. On Tuesday we would | :42:22. | :42:26. | |
talking about the earliest Pacific hurricane in a good few years. We | :42:27. | :42:31. | |
can match that, the Atlantic has got in on the game. Up to the top right | :42:32. | :42:37. | |
of the charts, the Azores, circled here is hurricane Alex, the first | :42:38. | :42:42. | |
Atlantic hurricane in January since 1938. Almost a record rate cut, | :42:43. | :42:47. | |
phenomenal for this time of year. Usually you would need C | :42:48. | :42:51. | |
temperatures of around 27 degrees, but at the moment there is unusually | :42:52. | :42:55. | |
cold air lying above pretty cold waters. That has injuries this | :42:56. | :43:01. | |
hurricane. What does it mean, you can predict too Farah head, so will | :43:02. | :43:06. | |
hurricane can -- hurricane season continue all the way through? It | :43:07. | :43:11. | |
does not start until the summer officially, but we will keep a close | :43:12. | :43:15. | |
eye on it. Keeping a close eye on the Azores, it will not affect us | :43:16. | :43:21. | |
directly, it will push off towards Greenland, but it may have an | :43:22. | :43:26. | |
influence on the weather next week, as I will show you. | :43:27. | :43:28. | |
At the moment, some pretty cold there across the UK. Much quieter | :43:29. | :43:33. | |
than an Atlantic hurricane. Snow again through the night and frosty | :43:34. | :43:38. | |
conditions this morning. This is the scene earlier on in the Highlands, | :43:39. | :43:43. | |
snow on the ground, temperatures dropping to -6 overnight. Wintry | :43:44. | :43:46. | |
flurries across Scotland at the moment are pushing southwards, rain | :43:47. | :43:51. | |
and sleet around the coast, sleet and snow inland commerce and | :43:52. | :43:56. | |
developing into Northern Ireland. If you are in Wales and south-west | :43:57. | :44:00. | |
England. But a dry, crisp and sunny day for most. Still a bite in the | :44:01. | :44:05. | |
breeze, taking it feel colder than temperatures would suggest. Dropping | :44:06. | :44:12. | |
snow here and there, covering across parts of Scotland. Looking dry and | :44:13. | :44:14. | |
brighter into the afternoon. More down across Northern Ireland for a | :44:15. | :44:18. | |
time. We will start to see the showers run back into north-west | :44:19. | :44:22. | |
England and North Wales once again. For the end of the afternoon, there | :44:23. | :44:26. | |
could be snow over the hills. Some of the showers across South Wales, | :44:27. | :44:33. | |
it should be dry and sunny for most do the afternoon, though, that | :44:34. | :44:40. | |
feeling chilly. A very cold night tonight, temperatures set to drop | :44:41. | :44:41. | |
further than last night. The breeze is quite noticeable demi- eastern | :44:42. | :44:46. | |
coast of England. Clear skies for the West, mist and fog in Northern | :44:47. | :44:49. | |
Ireland. Even in the towns and city centres, temperatures generally | :44:50. | :44:58. | |
around freezing, if not below. -7 in Wales, -8 in parts of England, -10 | :44:59. | :45:05. | |
in Scotland. Some wintry flurries in the eastern coastal counties of | :45:06. | :45:09. | |
England, still a strong notable in East Anglia. Make the most of the | :45:10. | :45:13. | |
morning Scott -- sunshine in Northern Ireland and western | :45:14. | :45:17. | |
Scotland. A bit of a spoiler on the way, more cloud through the | :45:18. | :45:21. | |
afternoon, and by the end of the day and into the evening because the | :45:22. | :45:27. | |
outbreaks of rain, sleet and hill snow. The main risk of snow is | :45:28. | :45:29. | |
across parts of western Scotland, away from that we finish Saturday on | :45:30. | :45:33. | |
a dry, crisp and frosty note. With cloud pushing into the West, eastern | :45:34. | :45:38. | |
areas are where we are likely to see the frosty as conditions but also | :45:39. | :45:41. | |
the best of the Sunday sunshine across southern and eastern areas. | :45:42. | :45:45. | |
More cloud for the north and west, a grey day in Northern Ireland, | :45:46. | :45:48. | |
Scotland and northern England especially raw, rain, sleet and snow | :45:49. | :45:55. | |
at times. Into next week, cold and warm our battling it out either side | :45:56. | :46:01. | |
of the UK. Which one winds? That is open to uncertainty, but there is | :46:02. | :46:02. | |
the chance of Hello it's Friday, it's 10am, | :46:03. | :46:11. | |
I'm Joanna Gosling in for Victoria Welcome to the programme | :46:12. | :46:14. | |
if you've just joined us. The child sex abuse case | :46:15. | :46:17. | |
against Lord Janner Starting school should | :46:18. | :46:25. | |
be an exciting time - but for many families, | :46:26. | :46:38. | |
over-subscribed schools and shrinking catchment | :46:39. | :46:40. | |
areas make the whole We'll ask why there's such | :46:41. | :46:42. | |
a pressure on places. It's the final countdown | :46:43. | :46:46. | |
for Tim Peake - as he prepares to become the first astronaut | :46:47. | :46:48. | |
representing Britain And David Bowie's latest album | :46:49. | :46:50. | |
is set to rise to the top of the charts - along with the rest | :46:51. | :46:55. | |
of his greatest hits. We'll look back at the reaction | :46:56. | :46:58. | |
to his death this week. The child sex abuse case | :46:59. | :47:01. | |
against the late Lord Janner It's because of the 87 | :47:02. | :47:10. | |
year-old's death last month. Our home affairs correspondent is | :47:11. | :47:21. | |
outside the Old Bailey. The hearing lasted around 12 minutes and there | :47:22. | :47:29. | |
was a statement from the prosecutor representing the Crown Prosecution | :47:30. | :47:34. | |
Service, and the judge who was appearing in the court by video | :47:35. | :47:39. | |
link, you said criminal proceedings against Lord Janner were ended by | :47:40. | :47:45. | |
his death -- he said. The file would be Mark that the defendant is now | :47:46. | :47:53. | |
deceased -- would be marked. Before his death a judge ruled he was unfit | :47:54. | :47:57. | |
to stand trial, that he was not fit to plead. He faced 22 allegations of | :47:58. | :48:04. | |
sexual offences against nine alleged victims, and his family has always | :48:05. | :48:09. | |
insisted that he was innocent. Instead of a trial, there was what | :48:10. | :48:21. | |
-- was going to be what is known as a trial of facts, where he would not | :48:22. | :48:26. | |
be present at court. The court heard there was no provision made for | :48:27. | :48:30. | |
posthumous proceedings even if a defendant was found unfit to stand | :48:31. | :48:34. | |
trial, as Lord Janner was. This now brings to an end the criminal | :48:35. | :48:40. | |
process. There is the possibility for alleged victims to take civil | :48:41. | :48:45. | |
action and also the Goddard enquiry into historical child sex abuse will | :48:46. | :48:52. | |
also look into this case. Daniel, at the Old Bailey, thanks. | :48:53. | :48:56. | |
BT has been given final approval to take over mobile phone operator, | :48:57. | :48:59. | |
EE - in a deal worth an estimated ?12.5 billion. | :49:00. | :49:02. | |
Head teachers demand action to ease the pressure on school places | :49:03. | :49:05. | |
in England - on the deadline day for primary school admissions. | :49:06. | :49:10. | |
Three arrests over the Indonesia gun and bomb attacks that killed two | :49:11. | :49:13. | |
people - so-called Islamic State says it was behind it. | :49:14. | :49:17. | |
Here in the UK - the NHS changes its policy on organ donation | :49:18. | :49:20. | |
- to cut the numbers of bereaved families blocking the use of organs | :49:21. | :49:23. | |
from people who'd given their consent to the procedure. | :49:24. | :49:29. | |
Matthew has been waiting seven and a half years now, it is torture, you | :49:30. | :49:34. | |
are waiting every day for a phone call which we feel probably will | :49:35. | :49:37. | |
never come. Anglican leaders signal | :49:38. | :49:40. | |
their continued opposition to gay marriage by imposing sanctions | :49:41. | :49:42. | |
against the US Episcopal Church, Major Tim Peake prepares | :49:43. | :49:44. | |
for the walk of his life. He'll undertake an historic six hour | :49:45. | :49:50. | |
space walk starting at lunchtime. Let's catch up with all the sport | :49:51. | :49:53. | |
now and join Ore Oduba. A good day for England's cricketers | :49:54. | :49:57. | |
in South Africa yesterday, We have had plenty of action this | :49:58. | :50:13. | |
morning. In Johannesburg, England have finally dismissed South Africa | :50:14. | :50:19. | |
for 313, but not without incident. The hosts started again and 206 to | :50:20. | :50:23. | |
7-7 and England picked up two wickets. -- 200 67-7. South Africa | :50:24. | :50:31. | |
added 37 for the last wicket, and Jimmy Anderson was removed from the | :50:32. | :50:35. | |
attack for running on the wicket, but it was wrapped up when Ben | :50:36. | :50:40. | |
Stokes took his 50th Test match wicket. England have not got off to | :50:41. | :50:45. | |
a good start, Alex Hales out for just a single. England are 19-1. The | :50:46. | :50:57. | |
Pakistan bowler Mohammad Amy has returned to action after he was | :50:58. | :51:05. | |
jailed and banned for spot fixing after a Test series against England | :51:06. | :51:07. | |
in 2010 -- Muhamed Amir. And now to the Australian open, Andy | :51:08. | :51:24. | |
Murray has reached four finals in Melbourne, and he has lost all of | :51:25. | :51:28. | |
them, but the draw has been made for the tournament, and he will begin | :51:29. | :51:34. | |
his tournament against one of the rising stars, an 18-year-old German. | :51:35. | :51:42. | |
Johanna Konta will take on Venus Williams in the first round. Play | :51:43. | :51:47. | |
begins on Monday. Happy to be here and I'm looking forward to | :51:48. | :51:51. | |
competing. I've played a couple of good matches already this year and | :51:52. | :51:53. | |
I'm looking forward to playing some more. It is the beginning of the | :51:54. | :51:59. | |
season and it is new and exciting. Sitting down for interviews is new | :52:00. | :52:04. | |
again. I will be talking to Greg Rusedski on the programme in about | :52:05. | :52:07. | |
half an hour about the British interest going into the first major | :52:08. | :52:11. | |
of the year. We have got to talks Newco, Barry Hawkins has joined | :52:12. | :52:17. | |
Ronnie O'Sullivan in the semifinals of the Masters at Alexandra Palace | :52:18. | :52:24. | |
-- we have got to talk snooker. Barry Hawkins look to back up the | :52:25. | :52:28. | |
match with the ping, but the referee made an interesting call. -- pink. | :52:29. | :52:41. | |
Foul. Foul? He called a foul for a perfectly legitimate shot, which | :52:42. | :52:47. | |
baffled the commentators and the player, but the referee apologised | :52:48. | :52:50. | |
and he owned up to his mistake. All smiles. Barry Hawkins into the last | :52:51. | :52:59. | |
four. The remaining quarterfinals are played today and both matches | :53:00. | :53:05. | |
will be on BBC Two. Even professionals make mistakes, but as | :53:06. | :53:08. | |
long as you apologise, we are all good, it proves. LAUGHTER | :53:09. | :53:10. | |
. Thank you for joining us this | :53:11. | :53:14. | |
morning, welcome to the programme if you've just joined us, | :53:15. | :53:17. | |
we're on BBC 2 and the BBC Big reaction from you this | :53:18. | :53:20. | |
morning on news that 500 families in the UK have | :53:21. | :53:24. | |
refused to let a loved one donate their organs since 2010 - | :53:25. | :53:26. | |
even though their deceased relative "Refusing to donate organs | :53:27. | :53:29. | |
from somebody who wanted to give their organs | :53:30. | :53:33. | |
is disgraceful". "People like me will die | :53:34. | :53:35. | |
because of families like that". "People should discuss their wishes | :53:36. | :53:37. | |
with relatives organ donation". "Then there would be no surprises | :53:38. | :53:44. | |
at a terrible time". "I believe if you would | :53:45. | :53:46. | |
receive a organ donation, "Don't take your organs to Heaven. | :53:47. | :53:54. | |
Heaven knows we need them here". Thanks for getting in touch - | :53:55. | :54:03. | |
do continue to tweet, Texts will be charged | :54:04. | :54:05. | |
at the standard network rate. You can watch the programme | :54:06. | :54:11. | |
online wherever you are - via the bbc news app | :54:12. | :54:14. | |
or our website bbc.co.uk/victoria - and you can also subscribe | :54:15. | :54:17. | |
to all our features on the news app, by going to add topics and searching | :54:18. | :54:21. | |
'Victoria Derbyshire' The sexual offences charged against | :54:22. | :54:39. | |
the late Lord Janner have been dropped. He died last month at the | :54:40. | :54:44. | |
age of 87, he had already been declared unfit to stand trial | :54:45. | :54:47. | |
because of his deteriorating and irreversible dementia, and they | :54:48. | :54:50. | |
tried of the facts had been scheduled for April. -- a trial will | :54:51. | :54:56. | |
stop our correspondent is outside the Old Bailey. He has more | :54:57. | :55:04. | |
reaction. Within the past hour, the judge said that criminal proceedings | :55:05. | :55:07. | |
against Lord Janner were ended by his death. And that his file would | :55:08. | :55:11. | |
be marked, the defendant is deceased. Today's hearing was to | :55:12. | :55:17. | |
establish whether any kind of criminal proceedings could still | :55:18. | :55:21. | |
continue posthumously, and ordinarily a criminal trial would | :55:22. | :55:25. | |
not continue after a defendant has died, but as you referred to there, | :55:26. | :55:32. | |
Lord Janner had been found to be unfit to stand trial because of his | :55:33. | :55:35. | |
dementia and instead what was to happen later this year was a trial | :55:36. | :55:40. | |
of the facts where a jury would have established if Lord -- Lord Janner | :55:41. | :55:50. | |
had done what he was alleged to, without establishing guilt or | :55:51. | :55:55. | |
innocence. The court was told by the prosecution that there was no | :55:56. | :55:58. | |
provision in law for posthumous proceedings even if a defendant was | :55:59. | :56:01. | |
found unfit to stand trial as Lord Janner was. To discuss what this | :56:02. | :56:09. | |
means, I'm joined by Liz who represents eight of the alleged | :56:10. | :56:13. | |
victims. Lord Janner's family have said that he is innocent, we should | :56:14. | :56:17. | |
say, they have said he is innocent of the allegations that were made | :56:18. | :56:21. | |
against him. But those that you represent lady wanted to bring those | :56:22. | :56:25. | |
allegations to court as part of a criminal process -- those that you | :56:26. | :56:32. | |
represent wanted. They are devastated, but they understand the | :56:33. | :56:35. | |
reasons why a criminal proceedings cannot go ahead, but the real | :56:36. | :56:38. | |
travesty in this case is that many of them gave their statements to the | :56:39. | :56:43. | |
police decades ago. There have been so mini missed opportunities to | :56:44. | :56:46. | |
bring this case to justice while Lord Janner was alive -- so many. | :56:47. | :56:53. | |
Now the only option left them is to attend before the Goddard inquiry, | :56:54. | :56:56. | |
they have that will be taken as a priority and for them to give their | :56:57. | :57:01. | |
evidence in person. This is the independent inquiry led by Lord | :57:02. | :57:08. | |
Goddard which will look into these allegations as part of the overall | :57:09. | :57:12. | |
enquiry. Yes, I hope that she will indicate that she will now hear the | :57:13. | :57:18. | |
Lord Janner case as a matter of priority, and what is a tragedy is | :57:19. | :57:21. | |
that the police have painstakingly gathered evidence in the last three | :57:22. | :57:26. | |
years since many more allegations came to light and much of that | :57:27. | :57:32. | |
evidence will not be heard. It is a real loss of justice to the victims, | :57:33. | :57:37. | |
they totally understand why. It is the end of the criminal process, but | :57:38. | :57:43. | |
they are still able to proceed in the civil courts, is that going to | :57:44. | :57:49. | |
happen? We have already commenced court proceedings and thereby half | :57:50. | :57:52. | |
in the civil courts and although he is now dead and cannot face a | :57:53. | :57:57. | |
criminal trial, his estate can still face the criminal proceedings and | :57:58. | :58:02. | |
they very much want that to happen. This is for the facts to be | :58:03. | :58:08. | |
established. Many thanks. A judge has now brought to an end the | :58:09. | :58:14. | |
criminal proceedings, and there is still the possibility for the | :58:15. | :58:18. | |
alleged victims to pursue civil claims and the Goddard inquiry is | :58:19. | :58:21. | |
also going to be looking into this case as part of its wider remit. | :58:22. | :58:23. | |
Thanks for joining us. It's deadline day today | :58:24. | :58:26. | |
for parents in England - who have until midnight to apply | :58:27. | :58:29. | |
for primary school places. The National Association | :58:30. | :58:32. | |
of Headteachers has strongly criticised the school | :58:33. | :58:34. | |
planning process - saying that it's fragmented | :58:35. | :58:39. | |
and confusing for parents. They say the problem is so bad it | :58:40. | :58:40. | |
risks harming childrens' education, and local authorities need more | :58:41. | :58:46. | |
power to control where new schools open to make sure places are created | :58:47. | :58:49. | |
where demand is greatest. In a moment we will discuss | :58:50. | :58:54. | |
all of this with primary school head teachers, council leaders | :58:55. | :58:57. | |
and parents who've been But first let's get some more detail | :58:58. | :58:59. | |
from our education correspondent So why is this a very difficult | :59:00. | :59:02. | |
process for parents? It is one of those experiences as a | :59:03. | :59:15. | |
parent that you'd read, not quite up there with changing nappies, but it | :59:16. | :59:20. | |
is a pretty joyless task -- that you dread. By tonight, midnight, you | :59:21. | :59:27. | |
have got to choose up to six schools, make the selections and | :59:28. | :59:30. | |
apply, is worth putting down at least three to make sure that you | :59:31. | :59:33. | |
get something you want. Depending where you live, you can apply it six | :59:34. | :59:39. | |
times with different schools in different boroughs. Parents will | :59:40. | :59:51. | |
then find out, and about four out of ten would not get their first | :59:52. | :59:54. | |
choice, it has become more complicated and a more confusing | :59:55. | :59:59. | |
system recently. There are changes to the system? The National | :00:00. | :00:06. | |
association of head teachers says the system is broken and they have | :00:07. | :00:09. | |
said it has been Balkanised, not just fragmented, but often | :00:10. | :00:14. | |
uncooperative and schools do not work together for the greater good, | :00:15. | :00:17. | |
because free schools and academies have the freedom to run their own | :00:18. | :00:22. | |
admissions, and so parents can apply to 64 schools of six different | :00:23. | :00:25. | |
types, and the schools might not inform each other -- can apply to | :00:26. | :00:32. | |
six different schools. And so the local authorities might not be able | :00:33. | :00:37. | |
to provide their legal duty to provide every child with a place at | :00:38. | :00:42. | |
school. Which of course would harm the child. | :00:43. | :00:44. | |
Let's talk now to a group of people directly affected by all of this - | :00:45. | :00:48. | |
Titilayo Oluwatudimu, is the founder of a free school - | :00:49. | :00:54. | |
Councillor Alisa Flemming, Labour Cabinet member for children, | :00:55. | :00:56. | |
families and learning at Croydon Council - | :00:57. | :01:07. | |
and parent Antonia Bennet - who has been through the system. | :01:08. | :01:11. | |
Antonia, what happened with you? Antonia, what happened? We made the | :01:12. | :01:22. | |
Antonia, what happened with you? We application in 2012 and in 2013 | :01:23. | :01:24. | |
Antonia, what happened with you? We made | :01:25. | :01:24. | |
Antonia, what happened with you? We application in 2012 and in 2013 we | :01:25. | :01:25. | |
Antonia, what happened with you? We made the | :01:26. | :01:25. | |
application in 2012 and in 2013 we received | :01:26. | :01:25. | |
application in 2012 and in 2013 we made the application | :01:26. | :01:25. | |
application in 2012 and in 2013 we received a letter | :01:26. | :01:25. | |
application in 2012 and in 2013 we made the application in | :01:26. | :01:25. | |
application in 2012 and in 2013 we received a letter stating | :01:26. | :01:25. | |
application in 2012 and in 2013 we made the application in 2012, | :01:26. | :01:26. | |
application in 2012 and in 2013 we received a letter stating that we | :01:27. | :01:26. | |
had not got our choices. received a letter stating that we | :01:27. | :01:28. | |
made the application in 2012, in 2013 we received a letter stating we | :01:29. | :01:30. | |
did 2013 we received a letter stating we | :01:31. | :01:30. | |
had not got our choices. Isaac was being | :01:31. | :01:31. | |
had not got our choices. Isaac was did not have | :01:32. | :01:31. | |
had not got our choices. Isaac was being placed | :01:32. | :01:31. | |
had not got our choices. Isaac was did not have our | :01:32. | :01:31. | |
had not got our choices. Isaac was being placed in a | :01:32. | :01:32. | |
had not got our choices. Isaac was did not have our choices. Isaac was | :01:33. | :01:32. | |
had not got our choices. Isaac was being placed in a school | :01:33. | :01:32. | |
did not have our choices. Isaac was being placed in a school 45 | :01:33. | :01:32. | |
did not have our choices. Isaac was being placed in a school 45 minutes | :01:33. | :01:33. | |
bus journey was away, two buses. being placed in a school 45 minutes | :01:34. | :01:35. | |
being placed in the school of 45 minute bus journey away. We | :01:36. | :01:37. | |
being placed in the school of 45 bus journey was away, two buses. We | :01:38. | :01:37. | |
being placed in the school of 45 minute bus journey away. We tried | :01:38. | :01:38. | |
bus journey was away, two buses. We tried to appeal the process, | :01:39. | :01:39. | |
bus journey was away, two buses. We minute bus journey away. We tried to | :01:40. | :01:39. | |
bus journey was away, two buses. We tried to appeal the process, but | :01:40. | :01:39. | |
minute bus journey away. We tried to tried to appeal the process, but we | :01:40. | :01:39. | |
minute bus journey away. We tried to appeal the | :01:40. | :01:40. | |
tried to appeal the process, but we did not | :01:41. | :01:40. | |
tried to appeal the process, but we appeal the process, | :01:41. | :01:40. | |
tried to appeal the process, but we did not fit the correct | :01:41. | :01:40. | |
tried to appeal the process, but we appeal the process, but | :01:41. | :01:41. | |
tried to appeal the process, but we did not fit the correct criteria. | :01:42. | :01:41. | |
tried to appeal the process, but we appeal the process, but we did | :01:42. | :01:44. | |
did not fit the correct criteria. Isaac | :01:45. | :01:44. | |
did not fit the correct criteria. appeal the process, but we did not | :01:45. | :01:44. | |
meet appeal the process, but we did not | :01:45. | :01:44. | |
Isaac went appeal the process, but we did not | :01:45. | :01:44. | |
meet the appeal the process, but we did not | :01:45. | :01:44. | |
Isaac went to a appeal the process, but we did not | :01:45. | :01:45. | |
meet the correct criteria. appeal the process, but we did not | :01:46. | :01:47. | |
Isaac went to a school 45 minutes away, in the end. Hanley schools | :01:48. | :01:50. | |
were closer? away, in the end. Hanley schools | :01:51. | :01:51. | |
meet the correct criteria. How many schools | :01:52. | :01:51. | |
meet the correct criteria. How many were closer? 23 | :01:52. | :01:51. | |
meet the correct criteria. How many schools were | :01:52. | :01:51. | |
meet the correct criteria. How many were closer? 23 schools. | :01:52. | :01:51. | |
meet the correct criteria. How many schools were close to you? | :01:52. | :01:54. | |
meet the correct criteria. How many were closer? 23 schools. -- | :01:55. | :01:54. | |
meet the correct criteria. How many schools were close to you? 23 | :01:55. | :01:54. | |
meet the correct criteria. How many were closer? 23 schools. -- how | :01:55. | :01:54. | |
many. schools were close to you? 23 | :01:55. | :01:54. | |
schools were closer, this was schools were close to you? 23 | :01:55. | :01:57. | |
many. This schools were close to you? 23 | :01:58. | :01:57. | |
schools were closer, this was the closest | :01:58. | :01:57. | |
schools were closer, this was the many. This was | :01:58. | :01:57. | |
schools were closer, this was the closest undersubscribed school. | :01:58. | :01:57. | |
schools were closer, this was the many. This was the closest school | :01:58. | :01:58. | |
which was under subscribed. closest undersubscribed school. | :01:59. | :01:59. | |
Crikey. closest undersubscribed school. | :02:00. | :01:59. | |
which was under subscribed. How did you | :02:00. | :01:59. | |
which was under subscribed. How did Crikey. How | :02:00. | :02:00. | |
which was under subscribed. How did you feel? | :02:01. | :02:00. | |
which was under subscribed. How did Crikey. How did that make you feel? | :02:01. | :02:02. | |
which was under subscribed. How did you feel? We were devastated, I | :02:03. | :02:03. | |
Crikey. How did that make you feel? Devastated. | :02:04. | :02:03. | |
Crikey. How did that make you feel? you feel? We were devastated, I had | :02:04. | :02:03. | |
to quit my you feel? We were devastated, I had | :02:04. | :02:04. | |
Devastated. I had to you feel? We were devastated, I had | :02:05. | :02:04. | |
to quit my job you feel? We were devastated, I had | :02:05. | :02:04. | |
Devastated. I had to quit my you feel? We were devastated, I had | :02:05. | :02:05. | |
to quit my job and you feel? We were devastated, I had | :02:06. | :02:05. | |
Devastated. I had to quit my job you feel? We were devastated, I had | :02:06. | :02:05. | |
to quit my job and get a you feel? We were devastated, I had | :02:06. | :02:05. | |
Devastated. I had to quit my job and to quit my job and get a part-time | :02:06. | :02:06. | |
job to fit to quit my job and get a part-time | :02:07. | :02:06. | |
get a part-time job to quit my job and get a part-time | :02:07. | :02:06. | |
job to fit in with taking to quit my job and get a part-time | :02:07. | :02:07. | |
get a part-time job to to quit my job and get a part-time | :02:08. | :02:07. | |
job to fit in with taking him to to quit my job and get a part-time | :02:08. | :02:07. | |
get a part-time job to fit in job to fit in with taking him to | :02:08. | :02:07. | |
school. job to fit in with taking him to | :02:08. | :02:08. | |
get a part-time job to fit in with taking | :02:09. | :02:09. | |
get a part-time job to fit in with school. 45 minute to drop him at | :02:10. | :02:11. | |
school and then 45 minutes back. school. 45 minute to drop him at | :02:12. | :02:17. | |
taking Isaac to school. It was 45 minutes to drop him at school, 45 | :02:18. | :02:17. | |
minutes back, I spent hours travelling every day. The impact on | :02:18. | :02:19. | |
him was heartbreaking. Having to travelling every day. The impact on | :02:20. | :02:20. | |
school and then 45 minutes back. It him was heartbreaking. Having to get | :02:21. | :02:21. | |
school and then 45 minutes back. It was difficult, | :02:22. | :02:21. | |
him was heartbreaking. Having to get your | :02:22. | :02:21. | |
him was heartbreaking. Having to get was difficult, getting | :02:22. | :02:21. | |
him was heartbreaking. Having to get your child about | :02:22. | :02:21. | |
him was heartbreaking. Having to get was difficult, getting up at | :02:22. | :02:21. | |
him was heartbreaking. Having to get your child about seven I | :02:22. | :02:21. | |
him was heartbreaking. Having to get was difficult, getting up at seven | :02:22. | :02:22. | |
o'clock in the morning, he was difficult, getting up at seven | :02:23. | :02:23. | |
your child about seven I am,. was difficult, getting up at seven | :02:24. | :02:23. | |
o'clock in the morning, he did not want to eat breakfast, it was too | :02:24. | :02:29. | |
early, and then getting on a bus, 45 minutes, trying to make sure we were | :02:30. | :02:33. | |
not late because we work relying on public and sport committee was a | :02:34. | :02:35. | |
very stressful time. Dominic, your daughter is three and | :02:36. | :02:46. | |
a half, you already engage with the process? A blood terrifyingly | :02:47. | :02:54. | |
complex and really worryingly. I have spoken to local education | :02:55. | :02:58. | |
authorities, where I live, all the good schools around me are | :02:59. | :03:01. | |
oversubscribed, I fall outside the area. Luckily, I have found a school | :03:02. | :03:07. | |
which hopefully she will get into, a good school which is relatively new | :03:08. | :03:11. | |
but in a different alley. It feels to me that it is about my only | :03:12. | :03:17. | |
choice. Wider you feel you will not get into any nearest schools? There | :03:18. | :03:21. | |
are services on the Internet which will show you roughly where you need | :03:22. | :03:25. | |
to be to get into a school. How close is your nearest school that | :03:26. | :03:31. | |
you would want to get into, ideally? Probably about 400, 500 metres away. | :03:32. | :03:36. | |
That you don't reckon you would get in? No. Mark Darren Peetoom, you are | :03:37. | :03:42. | |
the headmaster of a very oversubscribed primary, to what | :03:43. | :03:47. | |
extent? We have had years with over 300 applications for 30 places. | :03:48. | :03:52. | |
Managing expectations of parents getting children into the school is | :03:53. | :03:55. | |
an enormous challenge, and also for the local authority. Last year you | :03:56. | :04:02. | |
had to look within 300 metres to get into the school. It must be a very | :04:03. | :04:09. | |
difficult, stressful process for the schools and the parents? We have a | :04:10. | :04:13. | |
lot of upset parents, parents of children already in the nursery, | :04:14. | :04:20. | |
which does not guarantee a primary admissions place. It is a constant | :04:21. | :04:22. | |
battle. And supporting them to making informed decisions about | :04:23. | :04:26. | |
where our realistic choices for their children to get school places. | :04:27. | :04:33. | |
You look after education for Crowley -- for Croydon Council, I suppose | :04:34. | :04:37. | |
you have the overview. What is going on, is everybody plumping for the | :04:38. | :04:41. | |
same schools and inevitably there is a jam, or is the availability? Where | :04:42. | :04:47. | |
is the system system falling? Specifically in relation to Croydon, | :04:48. | :04:56. | |
the difficulty in previous years had been in terms of the supply strategy | :04:57. | :04:59. | |
and ensuring the places are available. Luckily in Croydon we | :05:00. | :05:03. | |
have been able to see, especially given that we are the regeneration | :05:04. | :05:09. | |
borough of London at the moment, in the last five years we have seen an | :05:10. | :05:17. | |
additional 70 forms of entry added, the mass majority would have been | :05:18. | :05:20. | |
the primary estate, some of that would have been an secondary | :05:21. | :05:25. | |
provision in the borough. Managing that, whilst difficult, has been | :05:26. | :05:30. | |
successful. The vast majority of the parents have been offered a school | :05:31. | :05:33. | |
of choice. Not necessarily the first place. One of the focus is for me, | :05:34. | :05:39. | |
especially as apparent myself, is we need to get back to the place of | :05:40. | :05:44. | |
local schools for local children, but also that all schools should be | :05:45. | :05:49. | |
a school of choice. That is the philosophy we have in Croydon, and | :05:50. | :05:53. | |
as a result there is the hope that all children would be able to go to | :05:54. | :05:57. | |
their local schools. I have heard you mention about a good school. In | :05:58. | :06:06. | |
Croydon, again, we are very lucky that the vast majority of schools | :06:07. | :06:08. | |
are good or outstanding. That is very important in terms of parent | :06:09. | :06:14. | |
preference. For me, as a mother, that is of importance. Equally, | :06:15. | :06:19. | |
having to travel long distances, as Antonia has mentioned, can be an | :06:20. | :06:24. | |
issue for the child. By the time they get to school they are | :06:25. | :06:30. | |
overtired or not able to keep up in class. For me, we really need to | :06:31. | :06:38. | |
continue to push local school places for local children. You set up a | :06:39. | :06:45. | |
free school, why? Go by -- I lived in a row where I had children in | :06:46. | :06:51. | |
inadequate classrooms, Portakabins, classrooms were overcrowded. There | :06:52. | :06:55. | |
were parents like we have listened to who were frustrated at not | :06:56. | :06:57. | |
getting the schools of their choices. If and when the Government | :06:58. | :07:03. | |
then decided that there was a possibility of having community | :07:04. | :07:08. | |
groups setting up schools, what I did was have conversations with my | :07:09. | :07:12. | |
local community. There is a need. If we can fight that provision for | :07:13. | :07:19. | |
children, let's do it. I had to get together some members of the | :07:20. | :07:23. | |
community with very close collaboration with the local | :07:24. | :07:27. | |
authority looking at where the places were needed, and we set up | :07:28. | :07:34. | |
authority looking at where the free school. However, we are | :07:35. | :07:35. | |
experiencing exactly the same thing around the table, oversubscription. | :07:36. | :07:42. | |
We set up a very small school. Still a very small percentage being | :07:43. | :07:47. | |
catered for. They need is still there. Practically every year we | :07:48. | :07:51. | |
have been oversubscribed. The good thing is that because it is set up | :07:52. | :07:57. | |
in a place where it is needed, parents feel part of a community. | :07:58. | :08:03. | |
There is a large bit of biding in from the parents around and members | :08:04. | :08:06. | |
of the community, because it is part of their community. People like what | :08:07. | :08:11. | |
they see with your school and want to go there, do you know of any | :08:12. | :08:19. | |
undersubscribed schools in the area? Not exactly. We are in a position | :08:20. | :08:23. | |
where practically all the schools around us are oversubscribed. We | :08:24. | :08:28. | |
have a huge growth, we have more people with in the borough. There | :08:29. | :08:35. | |
are constantly people looking for more places. Mark, are you aware of | :08:36. | :08:38. | |
any schools near you being oversubscribed? -- undersubscribed? | :08:39. | :08:45. | |
All of the schools local to me in Hackney faces the challenges of | :08:46. | :08:50. | |
massive oversubscription. We have had massive increases in birth rate, | :08:51. | :08:54. | |
lots of regeneration with new housing, families coming to live in | :08:55. | :09:00. | |
the borough. It is very error to send children to school and, they | :09:01. | :09:05. | |
get a very good deal. -- it is a very successful borough to send | :09:06. | :09:12. | |
children to school in. We are a victim of our own success, families | :09:13. | :09:15. | |
desperately want to get in. It is another story, but it is | :09:16. | :09:19. | |
interesting, Hackney has turned around. We have transformed | :09:20. | :09:22. | |
education through hard work, efforts and education will stop it is a | :09:23. | :09:26. | |
credit to everybody working in the schools that we have had this | :09:27. | :09:34. | |
delight happen. Antonia and Dominic, are you aware of schools where you | :09:35. | :09:39. | |
could have much more easily got into that you are looking at, but you | :09:40. | :09:44. | |
just don't want to go to? Parents are shying away and they are | :09:45. | :09:49. | |
undersubscribed? The garb not that I am aware of. You were not being too | :09:50. | :09:59. | |
picky? We were being picky based on distance, but that was the | :10:00. | :09:59. | |
picky? We were being picky based on criteria we were looking at. The | :10:00. | :10:02. | |
schools in the area where we live, they range from good to outstanding, | :10:03. | :10:07. | |
we didn't mind weather it was a good or outstanding school, we just | :10:08. | :10:10. | |
wanted to be able to get our child into a school where we could still | :10:11. | :10:15. | |
have a good quality of life. Where did you end up? You said it was this | :10:16. | :10:22. | |
45 minute bus ride, it has change? As of November, Isaac was into our | :10:23. | :10:27. | |
first choice school after two and a bit years of being on the waiting | :10:28. | :10:32. | |
list. And the difference is incredible. How close is that to | :10:33. | :10:37. | |
list. And the difference is now? About a ten minute walk away. | :10:38. | :10:41. | |
You were on the waiting list, is that a passive system where you sit | :10:42. | :10:44. | |
back and wait, or do you have to stay in touch and get involved? You | :10:45. | :10:50. | |
had to stay in touch with the local authority to say you would like to | :10:51. | :10:53. | |
remain on the list, you have to do that once every term or you get | :10:54. | :10:58. | |
taken off the list. When parents call up they should also check they | :10:59. | :11:02. | |
are on the list for all of the schools they applied for, we had a | :11:03. | :11:06. | |
situation where we were taken off the list for one of the schools | :11:07. | :11:14. | |
completely in error, it meant we had to reapply, which is why it took | :11:15. | :11:16. | |
even longer to get Isaac into a local school. How much fluidity is | :11:17. | :11:19. | |
their further down the track for parents who don't get their kid | :11:20. | :11:22. | |
where they want, things might change? In Croydon, it varies. We | :11:23. | :11:28. | |
have a combination of both academies, free schools and, in | :11:29. | :11:34. | |
terms of the selection process, although everything runs through the | :11:35. | :11:40. | |
local authority in terms of place allocation, the waiting lists and | :11:41. | :11:46. | |
the appeals, if it is, for example, maybe a faith school, is undertaken | :11:47. | :11:50. | |
directly by that individual establishment there was fluidity. | :11:51. | :11:58. | |
Currently our focus is moving towards the secondary phase of | :11:59. | :12:01. | |
education, making sure place allocation is available. On Monday | :12:02. | :12:06. | |
night we will be looking at our supply strategy, moving forward for | :12:07. | :12:13. | |
the coming three years and ensuring we have sufficient school places | :12:14. | :12:19. | |
available. But I just think it is an ongoing issue that we have always | :12:20. | :12:26. | |
had in terms of parental preference. Even for me myself. And one of the | :12:27. | :12:34. | |
major issues we have had, it is not political and I don't seek to make | :12:35. | :12:37. | |
it, but if we look at somewhere like Croydon, an outer London borough, in | :12:38. | :12:41. | |
terms of the funding that you get, in terms of being able to expand on | :12:42. | :12:46. | |
what is deemed to be a good or outstanding school, there is an | :12:47. | :12:53. | |
issue. If we take Lambeth, right next door to us, is about ?2000 less | :12:54. | :13:02. | |
per child, ?60,000 per class. So the money we have spent on expanding | :13:03. | :13:06. | |
schools has been done through rolling -- oral wing and funding | :13:07. | :13:20. | |
bids. The Government has ruled nationally that all new schools had | :13:21. | :13:21. | |
to be free schools. It takes the power amp little choice away. | :13:22. | :13:26. | |
Dominic, I did not get you to answer the question about whether there are | :13:27. | :13:29. | |
schools closer to you that you would prefer not to send? There is one | :13:30. | :13:34. | |
school. It might rarity is quality of life. Taking a three-year-old | :13:35. | :13:40. | |
across London at eight o'clock in the morning, the traffic and | :13:41. | :13:46. | |
everything else, is a nightmare. Adding two Alister somebody's day is | :13:47. | :13:53. | |
not fair. It is more than just... It is about local communities. I wanted | :13:54. | :13:56. | |
to be able to play with children on the same street and not travel miles | :13:57. | :14:02. | |
to get to school. It is really, really important. Obviously I don't | :14:03. | :14:07. | |
want a school that I am scared of her going to! Do you both see ways | :14:08. | :14:14. | |
of improving the system? It is numbers, but it is so complicated. | :14:15. | :14:19. | |
Free schools and academies, which set their own admissions criteria, | :14:20. | :14:24. | |
you don't necessarily find it up by the Kouyate local education | :14:25. | :14:27. | |
authorities, you have to speak to individual schools and you don't get | :14:28. | :14:31. | |
the information needed to know whether you will get into the | :14:32. | :14:34. | |
school, it is very difficult. You end up resorting to doing huge | :14:35. | :14:40. | |
amount of research yourself a which is tiring and difficult, especially | :14:41. | :14:45. | |
when you have young children. Thank you all for coming in and talking to | :14:46. | :14:50. | |
us. We invited the Department for Education to come in, but they told | :14:51. | :14:55. | |
us that 95% of parents received an offer at one of their top three | :14:56. | :14:58. | |
schools last year and the Government doubled funding for new school | :14:59. | :15:03. | |
places to ?5 billion between 2011 and 2015, helping create half a | :15:04. | :15:07. | |
million new places, and they say they have opened more than 250 free | :15:08. | :15:11. | |
schools, we know more needs to be done so we will invest a further ?23 | :15:12. | :15:18. | |
billion in school buildings up to 2021, creating 500 new schools and | :15:19. | :15:21. | |
600,000 new school places. Tim Peake gets ready for the first | :15:22. | :15:23. | |
ever space walk by an astronaut representing the UK - | :15:24. | :15:27. | |
We'll have the details in the lead And David Bowie is on course to top | :15:28. | :15:30. | |
the UK charts once again. We'll reflect on the reaction | :15:31. | :15:34. | |
to his death this week. As we've been hearing, | :15:35. | :15:43. | |
the child sex abuse case against the late Lord Janner has | :15:44. | :15:48. | |
been dropped, following the 87 A 'trial of the facts' had been | :15:49. | :15:51. | |
scheduled for April but that Head teachers demand action to ease | :15:52. | :15:55. | |
the pressure on school places in England - on the deadline day | :15:56. | :16:01. | |
for primary school admissions. BT has been given final approval | :16:02. | :16:05. | |
to take over mobile phone operator, EE - in a deal worth | :16:06. | :16:09. | |
an estimated ?12.5 billion. The NHS changes its policy | :16:10. | :16:17. | |
on organ donation - to cut the numbers of bereaved | :16:18. | :16:19. | |
families blocking the use of organs from people who'd given | :16:20. | :16:22. | |
their consent to the procedure. Matthew has been waiting seven and a | :16:23. | :16:31. | |
half years, it is torture, you are waiting everyday for a phone call | :16:32. | :16:34. | |
which we feel probably will never come. | :16:35. | :16:36. | |
Anglican leaders signal their continued opposition to gay | :16:37. | :16:38. | |
marriage by imposing sanctions against the US Episcopal Church, | :16:39. | :16:41. | |
It's time to talk sport with Ore now, and just a couple of days | :16:42. | :16:49. | |
until the start of the Australian Open tennis? | :16:50. | :16:53. | |
That is right, excitement is building to the first grand slam of | :16:54. | :16:57. | |
the year, Andy Murray will be the centre of attention as far as the | :16:58. | :17:01. | |
British contingent is concerned, but he's not the early representative in | :17:02. | :17:07. | |
Australia. We can talk to Greg Rusedski, who joins us live. Good | :17:08. | :17:13. | |
morning. You have some late nights coming as we look forward to this | :17:14. | :17:16. | |
tournament, starting Monday, but what about Andy Murray? He has been | :17:17. | :17:21. | |
to four finals in Melbourne and lost all of them. Psychologically that | :17:22. | :17:27. | |
will hurt, but this could be the year? Possibly yes, last year were | :17:28. | :17:33. | |
sensational for him, getting to number two at the end of the season | :17:34. | :17:38. | |
and winning the Davis Cup for the number two at the end of the season | :17:39. | :17:38. | |
first time for Great Britain, he has a lot of confidence and I think he | :17:39. | :17:42. | |
will make it back to the final. But Novak Djokovic has been sensational | :17:43. | :17:49. | |
at the moment. If he gets to the final, anything can happen in the | :17:50. | :17:52. | |
one match, so he has a great opportunity to win this for the | :17:53. | :17:56. | |
first time. It took him five times to win his first grand slam, so | :17:57. | :18:01. | |
maybe the number five is lucky for Andy Murray. What about the man he | :18:02. | :18:09. | |
is taking on? Alexander Zverev. He is very tall, six feet six, a | :18:10. | :18:10. | |
difficult opponent. I think is very tall, six feet six, a | :18:11. | :18:17. | |
win in straight sets, Andy Murray, but Alexander Zverev is one for the | :18:18. | :18:21. | |
future, but I don't think he is physically strong enough to stay | :18:22. | :18:26. | |
with Andy. Andy has beaten him before and he was very convincing, | :18:27. | :18:30. | |
and I think Andy's test will start in the quarterfinals, that could be | :18:31. | :18:34. | |
David Ferrer, and then the semifinal could be Stan Wawrinka. I think you | :18:35. | :18:40. | |
could get to the final, though. Johanna Konta, it is not get much | :18:41. | :18:44. | |
harder than the seven time grand slam champion Venus Williams. But is | :18:45. | :18:50. | |
the best time to take on Venus Williams in the opening round? Yes, | :18:51. | :18:52. | |
you want to do that before she Williams in the opening round? Yes, | :18:53. | :18:57. | |
her momentum, especially going into the second week. They have met on | :18:58. | :19:01. | |
one occasion, and Venus Williams was victorious in a tight 3-set match, | :19:02. | :19:08. | |
but Johanna Konta is really growing in confidence. Mentally, the | :19:09. | :19:14. | |
question was, does she have the right attitude? I think she does. | :19:15. | :19:20. | |
This could be a possible upset and I think Joanne concert could beat | :19:21. | :19:24. | |
Venus Williams. -- Johanna Konta could beat Venus William 's. It was | :19:25. | :19:29. | |
an incredible year for British tennis, you mentioned the Davis Cup | :19:30. | :19:33. | |
victory, history was made last year, and we hope possibly building on | :19:34. | :19:37. | |
that with the likes of Kyle Edmund coming through. It was a great year | :19:38. | :19:42. | |
for the Brits in Australia, six British players, four in the men and | :19:43. | :19:47. | |
two and the ladies, so there's a lot of forward to. -- on the ladies. | :19:48. | :19:56. | |
Kyle could have a rematch with David Goffin, which we saw in the Davis | :19:57. | :20:01. | |
Cup, that could be intriguing. So many good matches to look forward | :20:02. | :20:05. | |
to, and the men and women's side, and if you want to watch the | :20:06. | :20:08. | |
coverage, watch it live and exclusive on Eurosport. Oh! But why | :20:09. | :20:15. | |
would you not listen to it on five live sports extra? You can listen to | :20:16. | :20:20. | |
it there, as well, but if you want to see it live on the television, | :20:21. | :20:21. | |
that is the only place to watch it. to see it live on the television, | :20:22. | :20:32. | |
You get it anyway you can exclaim -- you can square that was Greg | :20:33. | :20:39. | |
Rusedski. -- you get it anyway you can! England are 27-2 at the moment, | :20:40. | :20:46. | |
so they are not doing very well at the moment in the third Test match | :20:47. | :20:50. | |
in Johannesburg. Thanks for joining us. Many of you getting in touch | :20:51. | :20:56. | |
after hour, station regarding organ donation and the news that about 100 | :20:57. | :21:01. | |
families every year are saying no to organ donation and in spite of their | :21:02. | :21:05. | |
loved one giving consent prior to their death -- after our | :21:06. | :21:10. | |
conversation. "Why not make relative consent | :21:11. | :21:11. | |
part of the donation "I think legally | :21:12. | :21:18. | |
a person's remains belong "Surely it is unlawful to go | :21:19. | :21:21. | |
against their wishes". "My dad was ill for ten years | :21:22. | :21:27. | |
and received a new liver two "Had it not been for the lady | :21:28. | :21:32. | |
who donated he would be gone now. "The pain of waiting and watching | :21:33. | :21:36. | |
someone you love deteriorate "I'm sorry but this is the ultimate | :21:37. | :21:41. | |
in state interference". "My body does not belong | :21:42. | :21:46. | |
to the state unless I agree "If you are prepared to accept | :21:47. | :21:49. | |
an organ you should "He was a magnificent actor | :21:50. | :21:54. | |
and a wonderful man" - the words of the author JK Rowling | :21:55. | :22:00. | |
paying tribute to the actor Alan Rickman, who has died | :22:01. | :22:05. | |
of cancer at the age of 69. He enjoyed success in theatre | :22:06. | :22:07. | |
and television but performances in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves, | :22:08. | :22:11. | |
Die Hard, Love Actually and the Harry Potter films | :22:12. | :22:15. | |
which brought him global fame. Yes, but you've also | :22:16. | :22:19. | |
made a fool out of me. You've made the life | :22:20. | :22:58. | |
I lead foolish, too. That is a very serious | :22:59. | :23:00. | |
accusation, Potter. There's a poem I wanted | :23:01. | :23:08. | |
you to translate. There's a bit that | :23:09. | :24:00. | |
I wanted you to hear. Juliet Stevenson played | :24:01. | :24:07. | |
Alan Rickman's co-star in 'Truly, She told Newsnight's Emily Maitlis | :24:08. | :24:25. | |
that the film was a good representation of what he could do - | :24:26. | :24:29. | |
which was everything. He was an incredibly inventive | :24:30. | :24:31. | |
person to work with. Very, very creative and thinking all | :24:32. | :24:34. | |
the time about the bigger picture. He had his eye on everything, | :24:35. | :24:38. | |
what the camera was doing, He thought very big and he had many | :24:39. | :24:41. | |
kinds of talent that could address themselves to all kinds | :24:42. | :24:49. | |
of parts of the job. He had a lot to offer | :24:50. | :24:52. | |
in every department. He was an inspiration to pretty much | :24:53. | :24:54. | |
everyone on the crew as I'm sure Sometimes there was a look | :24:55. | :25:00. | |
as Emma Thompson said, one look or one word, | :25:01. | :25:12. | |
an eyebrow, a glance. He's sitting on my shoulder now | :25:13. | :25:15. | |
and looking down at me and saying, He could make you roar with laughter | :25:16. | :25:23. | |
with a couple of words. He could say something searingly | :25:24. | :25:28. | |
insightful with just a line. He was astonishingly economic | :25:29. | :25:33. | |
in his utterance but he had this laser beam accuracy | :25:34. | :25:36. | |
about what needed to be said. Whether that was funny | :25:37. | :25:39. | |
or insightful or tricky Is that from his stage sort | :25:40. | :25:42. | |
of structure that came before film? He was a theatre actor for a long | :25:43. | :25:52. | |
time before he became He was a classical actor | :25:53. | :25:55. | |
on stage and we met A lot of us did who were | :25:56. | :25:59. | |
close friends of his. As for that capacity, | :26:00. | :26:06. | |
no, I think you always have that. He lived on the back | :26:07. | :26:11. | |
foot, you know. He thought a great deal before | :26:12. | :26:13. | |
he offered up an opinion. He was also very instinctive | :26:14. | :26:17. | |
and an intuitive person. His judgments came from | :26:18. | :26:19. | |
an amazing blend of the mind, The actress Juliet Stevenson talking | :26:20. | :26:25. | |
about Alan Rickman who died British astronaut Tim Peake | :26:26. | :26:32. | |
will boldly go where few others have later today - taking part | :26:33. | :26:40. | |
in his first space walk, a month after arriving | :26:41. | :26:43. | |
at the International Space Station. Major Peake and his American | :26:44. | :26:46. | |
colleague Tim Kopra will try to repair a power unit | :26:47. | :26:48. | |
on the outside of the station. They'll start just before | :26:49. | :26:54. | |
1pm, taking about six So how do you train for a spacewalk | :26:55. | :26:56. | |
- well, it seems you need a big swimming pool and a lot of patience, | :26:57. | :27:02. | |
as Tim Peake explains. What does it feel like to put on the | :27:03. | :27:14. | |
suit? Pretty difficult to get into, it is like a small caving expedition | :27:15. | :27:17. | |
just to get into it, and it is a very tight fit, although it looks | :27:18. | :27:21. | |
very big and bulky. Inside the suit you are crammed in, which is a good | :27:22. | :27:26. | |
thing, you don't want too much room to move around, I like it pressing | :27:27. | :27:29. | |
hard against my shoulders, right here. There are probably three | :27:30. | :27:40. | |
activities which are really high risk, the launch, the re-entry, and | :27:41. | :27:44. | |
spacewalking, it is one of the few times where as an astronaut you | :27:45. | :27:47. | |
completely responsible for your own safety. You really are out there on | :27:48. | :27:52. | |
a limb and you need to be able to take care of yourself and understand | :27:53. | :28:00. | |
what is going on. Do you have a go to release yourself? It is one of | :28:01. | :28:06. | |
those tasks, you cannot have a slip in concentration and if you forget | :28:07. | :28:11. | |
once to put down your local Teva which is what keeps you attach to | :28:12. | :28:15. | |
the space station and then you turn around and start working on a piece | :28:16. | :28:20. | |
of equipment and let go of the hand rails, before you know it you are | :28:21. | :28:24. | |
floating off space station and that is a really bad day. It was good, as | :28:25. | :28:31. | |
expected, it was tough. Feels like I've been in the gym all day. He's | :28:32. | :28:39. | |
not got much longer to wait. The countdown will be starting at 1130 | :28:40. | :28:42. | |
and he is still carrying out his final preparations. | :28:43. | :28:46. | |
Here to tell us more about Tim Peake's mission is the man | :28:47. | :28:48. | |
who has been backing him from the very start. | :28:49. | :28:50. | |
Jeremy Curtis leads the UK Space Agency's space education | :28:51. | :28:52. | |
We are also joined by our science correspondent. He was talking about | :28:53. | :28:59. | |
the difficulties in front of him, but when he steps out, what can he | :29:00. | :29:05. | |
see? Until this point, every view he has had of the Earth is essentially | :29:06. | :29:11. | |
through a window, and the spacecraft which took him up, you can look out | :29:12. | :29:15. | |
the window and looked down in the space station, this will be the | :29:16. | :29:21. | |
first time he comes up top, to face the vastness of space, seeing the | :29:22. | :29:28. | |
earth below, separated only by his space suit, which is like | :29:29. | :29:33. | |
earth below, separated only by his spaceship, it has all the things on | :29:34. | :29:34. | |
board which he needs to survive out there. Seeing the outside structure | :29:35. | :29:39. | |
of the space station, as well. He saw that on the approach, but this | :29:40. | :29:44. | |
will be the first time he is setting his gloved hands down onto it, so it | :29:45. | :29:49. | |
will be remarkable. He will be given a few minutes to Oriente takings so | :29:50. | :29:53. | |
with the situation because it must be a very strange and wonderful | :29:54. | :30:00. | |
situation -- orientate himself with the situation. It must be an | :30:01. | :30:06. | |
incredible moment. He has been training for about six years, to get | :30:07. | :30:08. | |
to this point, and he's very training for about six years, to get | :30:09. | :30:13. | |
share this with people in the UK, because he realises it is a | :30:14. | :30:16. | |
privilege, a vision that no one else gets, this is a rare opportunity, so | :30:17. | :30:20. | |
he is keen for people in the UK to have a part of his mission by | :30:21. | :30:24. | |
following his training and understanding what he is trying to | :30:25. | :30:28. | |
do. Children are getting very engaged with this. It is brilliant. | :30:29. | :30:33. | |
They are so excited, there are schools across the country following | :30:34. | :30:37. | |
what he's doing, and they can do this much more easily if they go | :30:38. | :30:39. | |
through some of the education programme we have set up. His | :30:40. | :30:48. | |
training, you can copy, and follow, the training that Tim does on the | :30:49. | :30:52. | |
space station. You saw in the film how much hard work it will be for | :30:53. | :30:56. | |
Tim, he has got to fight the space suit all the time, although he is | :30:57. | :31:00. | |
weightless, he has got to be very strong and dextrous and keep | :31:01. | :31:03. | |
concentrating the whole time. He has got to do much training in space, he | :31:04. | :31:08. | |
does two hours every day of trading, he runs on a running machine and | :31:09. | :31:12. | |
lifts weights -- two hours every day of training. We can follow that on | :31:13. | :31:16. | |
the ground and you can copy what he's doing and see if | :31:17. | :31:20. | |
the ground and you can copy what keeping up with him, in the space to | :31:21. | :31:20. | |
Earth challenge. # I guess you could, if you wanted, | :31:21. | :31:29. | |
by the sort of food he is eating, I think they sell it in museum shops. | :31:30. | :31:36. | |
Is this is real. Oh, is the stuff in museum shops not?! Dybala I should | :31:37. | :31:44. | |
not say. This is scrambled egg. It is written in English and Russian. | :31:45. | :31:49. | |
You re-hydrated by putting hot water in. It tells you exactly what | :31:50. | :31:54. | |
quantity to put in. It tells you how much sodium there is in every one of | :31:55. | :31:58. | |
these things. They had to keep their salt intake right, because their | :31:59. | :32:02. | |
fluid balance changes. The body tries to get rid of excess fluid and | :32:03. | :32:04. | |
they ended been dehydrated. tries to get rid of excess fluid and | :32:05. | :32:10. | |
are on a spacewalk for six hours you have to keep your fluid levels up. | :32:11. | :32:14. | |
We have another thing called Mission next, it is all about the foods that | :32:15. | :32:20. | |
astronauts eat and the fitness that they have to acquire in order to do | :32:21. | :32:26. | |
their work. -- called Mission by. We all got 7000 kids involved in the | :32:27. | :32:30. | |
challenge running from now and tell March. Here is my favourite. Tim has | :32:31. | :32:39. | |
to drink tea, how could you... He is British, how could you not? This is | :32:40. | :32:45. | |
what he looks like, it does not look very appealing. You have to put hot | :32:46. | :32:48. | |
water in. He has got some very appealing. You have to put hot | :32:49. | :32:54. | |
that is a bit better quality than the standard dehydrated stuff. I | :32:55. | :32:57. | |
love it, it would take a Brit to do that! Tell us more, Rebecca, about | :32:58. | :33:03. | |
what he will be doing. One astronaut has previously described it as like | :33:04. | :33:08. | |
mending a watch while wearing oven gloves and falling off an infinitely | :33:09. | :33:13. | |
tall building. That sounds about right, it is DIY in the most | :33:14. | :33:16. | |
possible situation you could imagine. Just working through the | :33:17. | :33:21. | |
spacesuit is incredibly hard. Gloves, it is like squeezing against | :33:22. | :33:25. | |
the pressure balls you get in the gym, constantly squeezing your | :33:26. | :33:30. | |
fingers to manipulate. Today he will be helping to replace a power unit | :33:31. | :33:34. | |
on by called a sequential shunt unit. The space station is powered | :33:35. | :33:41. | |
by solar arrays, there are eight of them on there, and the sequential | :33:42. | :33:43. | |
shunt unit essentially regulates how much power is actually going into | :33:44. | :33:47. | |
the space station, it controls the voltage. One of those eight units | :33:48. | :33:53. | |
broke down, that is OK, the space station can run on 12.5% less power, | :33:54. | :33:57. | |
but they don't want another one to break so they have to fix it. Sounds | :33:58. | :34:03. | |
simple, it is one box that they are swapping for another, but doing that | :34:04. | :34:06. | |
in spades is very hard. Every time you're twisting a wrench or a power | :34:07. | :34:11. | |
drill, your body is turning at the same time, you had to be tethered | :34:12. | :34:14. | |
on, have a footplate installed to make sure you are locked into place. | :34:15. | :34:20. | |
They have to do it during the hours of darkness as well. On Earth, if we | :34:21. | :34:24. | |
were doing it during our night-time we would have loads of hours, space, | :34:25. | :34:29. | |
it is whizzing around the Earth at 20,000: it is an hour, night-time | :34:30. | :34:34. | |
lasts around 45 minutes, they have a 30 minute window. We don't want to | :34:35. | :34:39. | |
do it during daylight because the power of the sun is going through | :34:40. | :34:44. | |
the solar array, it would be disastrous if an electrical current | :34:45. | :34:48. | |
run through it and there were any sparks. Swapping in one box for | :34:49. | :34:53. | |
another sounds easy, but I think it will be quite challenging. How can | :34:54. | :35:02. | |
we monitor what is going on? It will be streamed live. Can you imagine | :35:03. | :35:04. | |
doing all this for the very first time, it is incredibly important | :35:05. | :35:07. | |
and, guess what, millions will be watching over your shoulder. There | :35:08. | :35:12. | |
is a camera on his helmet, it will all be streamed live on the Nasa | :35:13. | :35:16. | |
website or the print chippy website, where you can watch everything | :35:17. | :35:22. | |
happen -- or the Principia website. It is meant to be about 12:55pm, | :35:23. | :35:27. | |
sometimes they get to their checks quicker and they will be out | :35:28. | :35:30. | |
earlier, they don't want to waste time. The replacement of the SSU, | :35:31. | :35:35. | |
what Becky was talking about, we think that will be at around 2:30pm. | :35:36. | :35:39. | |
But they can always change things, they might move it up or down. It | :35:40. | :35:47. | |
will be really, really exciting to watch over his shoulder as he does | :35:48. | :35:49. | |
this extraordinary operation for the very first time. Thank you both. | :35:50. | :35:51. | |
And there'll be coverage of Tim Peake's spacewalk on the BBC | :35:52. | :35:53. | |
News Channel from 11:30am - and the walk itself is due to happen | :35:54. | :35:56. | |
That may be a little bit variable. Just a quick update on news breaking | :35:57. | :36:07. | |
this morning that legal proceedings against former Labour peer Lord | :36:08. | :36:11. | |
Janner, who was facing child abuse charges, have been formally dropped | :36:12. | :36:15. | |
following his death. A planned trial of the fact Jew to be held at the | :36:16. | :36:19. | |
Old Bailey in April will not go ahead. We are hearing that the | :36:20. | :36:25. | |
independent Goddard inquiry into child sex abuse will look into Lord | :36:26. | :36:31. | |
Janner and subsequent failures to protect children from abuse by him | :36:32. | :36:33. | |
or others associated with him. David Bowie's 25th studio album | :36:34. | :36:35. | |
Blackstar is expected to top the albums chart when the latest | :36:36. | :36:37. | |
countdown is announced this evening. The album was released just two days | :36:38. | :36:40. | |
before the iconic musician's death And it looks like many of his | :36:41. | :36:42. | |
greatest hits could make it We can speak now to Shaun Keaveny, | :36:43. | :36:47. | |
fresh from presenting his Radio Thank you for coming in. It is | :36:48. | :37:02. | |
extraordinary to watch on a particularly the video for Lazarus, | :37:03. | :37:06. | |
knowing he was doing bad as he knew he was dying and wanted people to | :37:07. | :37:14. | |
see that, potentially after his death? Many people are saying, the | :37:15. | :37:16. | |
producer of the album, has said precisely that. David Nugent will | :37:17. | :37:25. | |
well. -- David knew full well. He had his diagnosis, it accelerated | :37:26. | :37:29. | |
come November, he knew what was coming and he wanted to work until | :37:30. | :37:34. | |
the last moment and create this love letter, if you will, to the fans, a | :37:35. | :37:38. | |
final statement. Only he could pull it off with quite such aplomb. Let's | :37:39. | :37:43. | |
listen more closely to the music as we watch the video. | :37:44. | :37:56. | |
# Look up here, man, I'm in danger. # I've got nothing left to lose. | :37:57. | :38:13. | |
# I'm so high it makes my brain world. | :38:14. | :38:24. | |
The poignancy of watching about just after his death brings a whole extra | :38:25. | :38:26. | |
dimensional to a song, which is a beautiful song, but it adds a | :38:27. | :38:31. | |
different dimensional? It does. I was listening to at last Saturday, | :38:32. | :38:36. | |
just streaming at, it had only just come out last Friday. Just having | :38:37. | :38:40. | |
that workmanlike experience of listening to new Bowie music and | :38:41. | :38:45. | |
thinking, while, it is really good, this is a fantastic new piece of | :38:46. | :38:51. | |
music. And then come Monday, it is a totally different... Seen through a | :38:52. | :38:55. | |
totally different prism. On radio six music we experience such a | :38:56. | :39:01. | |
colossal out pouring of grief. We talked about it on this very | :39:02. | :39:06. | |
colossal out pouring of grief. We programme on Monday. It was | :39:07. | :39:07. | |
unprecedented. Thinking about it and living with it for the last few | :39:08. | :39:11. | |
days, I think one of the reasons is that David Bowie is a singular | :39:12. | :39:17. | |
musician. In many regards, if other icons are to die, unfortunately we | :39:18. | :39:22. | |
all shuffling off the mortal coil, very often they are part of a group, | :39:23. | :39:26. | |
where as David has created this entire canon of work themselves, all | :39:27. | :39:30. | |
these different different guises, that is what people are clinging | :39:31. | :39:37. | |
onto. It is like losing about 75 artists at once coming he created | :39:38. | :39:40. | |
all these different worlds. We are hearing one of his greatest hits, | :39:41. | :39:44. | |
these are all coming back to chart. Is it young people who were not | :39:45. | :39:52. | |
aware of him before who were waking up to his music? I have brought a | :39:53. | :39:56. | |
couple of e-mails. Again, what comes through, certainly for us at the | :39:57. | :40:02. | |
station, is how many people have had the experience of having it passed | :40:03. | :40:06. | |
to them from older generations and passing it on. A gentleman called | :40:07. | :40:10. | |
Andrew played the songs to his children in his car, these are seven | :40:11. | :40:17. | |
and ten-year-old children. Other people get in contact, a gentleman | :40:18. | :40:22. | |
said we bought our eldest a dance at record player to take to college, | :40:23. | :40:28. | |
and the day before, the news of David's passing came, he rang me up | :40:29. | :40:32. | |
from Southampton University to tell his father that he had listened to | :40:33. | :40:36. | |
Ziggy Stardust for the first time on vinyl, what a great experience it | :40:37. | :40:41. | |
was. He says, I am dreading telling him the bad news. It is so | :40:42. | :40:45. | |
wonderful, largely thanks to streaming services like Spotify and | :40:46. | :40:49. | |
things, this music lives on as viscerally in young people as it | :40:50. | :40:53. | |
does in the older generation. My kids are seven and five and have | :40:54. | :40:56. | |
been asking for David Bowie songs all week. That is a great piece of | :40:57. | :41:04. | |
news. I have had a conversation with my kids about how some music will | :41:05. | :41:07. | |
really and juror, and what makes some artists live over the | :41:08. | :41:16. | |
generations. -- will really endure. Because they dared to do something | :41:17. | :41:23. | |
different when they were doing it. It is arguable whether Black Eyed | :41:24. | :41:27. | |
Peas or Ollie Merz will be talked about in the same way in the next 45 | :41:28. | :41:33. | |
or 50 years. But some artists like this, you know they will be around | :41:34. | :41:37. | |
for hundreds of years. There will not be a big funeral. There have | :41:38. | :41:41. | |
been various reports of him having already been cremated. You are | :41:42. | :41:44. | |
getting a lot of input from fans on the station, do fans feel they | :41:45. | :41:49. | |
somehow want to pay tribute to David Bouley and remember him with some | :41:50. | :41:56. | |
sort of memorial? -- to David Bowie. I can't really remember the last | :41:57. | :42:01. | |
time it happened if, indeed, it has, fans across the world are already | :42:02. | :42:08. | |
putting together memorial concerts, putting together different ideas. | :42:09. | :42:10. | |
One person on Twitter was talking about trying to create a ring of | :42:11. | :42:17. | |
love around the Pyramid stage at Glastonbury this year, just | :42:18. | :42:19. | |
everybody holding hands and singing David Bowie songs, charity concerts, | :42:20. | :42:25. | |
this kind of thing. There is one in Coneygree Hall in March which would | :42:26. | :42:32. | |
be a tribute before he died, now it is a memorial -- in Coneygree Hall. | :42:33. | :42:36. | |
It is passing the torch to the younger generation of fans. Possibly | :42:37. | :42:41. | |
lots of Mali will be raised by all of these fans doing different things | :42:42. | :42:44. | |
for David. Really good to talk to you. Thank you for remembering David | :42:45. | :42:47. | |
Bowie with us. Thank you for your company today, | :42:48. | :42:48. | |
have a good weekend. We end the week as we started - | :42:49. | :42:51. | |
with a tribute to David Bowie. MUSIC: Instrumental | :42:52. | :42:54. | |
from "Heroes" by David Bowie. # Like the dolphins, | :42:55. | :43:04. | |
like dolphins can swim. # Though nothing, nothing | :43:05. | :43:21. | |
will keep us together. MUSIC: Instrumental | :43:22. | :43:28. | |
from "Heroes" by David Bowie. Celebrate a country 4,000 years | :43:29. | :44:07. | |
in the making. China begins here. | :44:08. | :44:09. |