18/01/2016 Victoria Derbyshire


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It's Monday, it's 9.15, I'm Victoria Derbyshire.

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Tennis players are being accused of deliberately throwing

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It's emerged that over the last decade concerns have been raised

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about 16 players who have ranked in the top 50.

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In Paris they offered me double money to lose in straight sets.

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We'll ask a player how you fix a match.

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He might say things you don't agree with but should US presidential

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hopeful Donald Trump be banned from coming to Britain?

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I don't think we should be banning Donald Trump. We should look at

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educational ways of dealing with his bigotry. I do think so because we

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don't need any negativity in this country.

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And the NHS says it will introduce its own sugar tax in hospitals

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Should they be charging extra on sugary drinks

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We're on BBC Two and the BBC News Channel until 11 this morning.

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Throughout the programme we'll bring you the latest breaking news

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This morning, allegations of match fixing within tennis.

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Over the last decade 16 players who have ranked in the top 50 have

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been repeatedly flagged to a body called the Tennis Integrity Unit

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over suspicions they've thrown matches, including at Wimbledon.

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But that body, set up by the world tennis authorities to combat match

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fixing, is accused of doing very little.

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"They sat on it and from up on high, they don't want it out there,"

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is what one betting industry source told the BBC.

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So all of the players, including winners of Grand Slam

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titles, were allowed to continue competing.

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This morning the Tennis Integrity Unit said it absolutely rejected any

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suggestion that evidence of match fixing has been suppressed for any

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reason, saying, "No player or official is immune

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from investigation, regardless of their status or position

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Investigations follow where evidence leads."

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It's all come about from a joint investigation by the BBC

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Where you ever approached to throw a match? Yes, I got one offer in

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Moscow, one in Chennai and one in Paris. In Chennai they

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Moscow, one in Chennai and one in 50000 and in Paris double money.

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There was an element of keeping things under wraps. We gave them the

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review. It was hard hitting. It said tennis virtually was at a crossroads

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and if they were really serious about dealing with this, then they

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really need to create an integrity unit with teeth. To be fair, nobody

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likes hanging out their dirty washing in public. Nobody likes

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admitting that they have problems within their sport. From I

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experience of working on dozens of cases for British horse racing, is

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evidence was very strong, really as anything we had had. The review gave

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two options to the tennis authorities.

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One option was to include a betting analyst, which I felt was absolutely

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essential if the unit was going to be successful. The other option did

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not include the betting analyst and they chose the option that did not

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include the betting analyst. Both recommended at least half a dozen

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with a director in charge. I believe that there were very few in the

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initial Tennis Integrity Unit. In fact, I believe, it was only a

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couple of people. How can you cover a global sport like tennis with two

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people? Well, you can't. We believed it was a perfect opportunity for

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tennis to have an investigation, charge players, get to the

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disciplinary system and create a strong deterrent for people looking

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to throw the sport in the future. It did not appear that they took up

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that opportunity, certainly not from the evidence that we gathered and

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presented to them. That was a Buzzfeed film.

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Richard Ings established the first system for tackling

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He told me how easy it could be to fix a tennis match.

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If you were going to invent the sport that would be perfect for

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match fixing, it would be called tennis. It is an individual sport.

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It only takes one player unbeknownst to their opponents to miss key shot,

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double fault on a point, and the match is over and the fix is in.

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Would people watching no? No, they would not. You have to remember

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there are literally thousands of tennis matches being played every

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week at tournaments at all levels globally during the year. And most

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of those matches are 6-2, 6-3, 6-4. There is a fine line in tennis

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between winning and losing and it is easy for an unscrupulous player to

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fix the result. What would be the general profile of a player who

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wanted to throw a match? Luck, it is impossible to say. There are

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individuals, whether it is doping in sport, corruption in sport, who

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break rules. That is why sporting organisations like the ATP and WTA

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need comprehensive systems in place to deter and hopefully detect those

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that break the rules. There is potentially a life ban for somebody

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caught fixing a tennis match. But the suggestion today is that the

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Tennis Integrity Unit is allowing players who are suspected of match

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fixing to continue in their career. We need to be a bit cautious. I was

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involved in the anti-corruption system with men's professional

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tennis in 2005. It was an incredibly conferencing system that was built.

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In 2008 it was expanded into the Tennis Integrity Unit incorporating

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the ATP and WTA and the ITF, so all facets of tennis, and it is well

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funded and well staffed, but proving these cases is incredibly difficult.

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Of the 16 players flagged in these secret documents, 16 in the last ten

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years that have been in the top 50 or so, they have all continued to

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compete, so the case could not be proved against any of them? When you

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are looking at investigating possible match fixing in tennis, you

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get information in from bookmakers about suspicious betting patterns.

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If you are lucky, you get telephone records, financial records, other

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records. But you still need to be able to prove, as a sport, to the

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comfortable satisfaction of a tribunal, that the player really was

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involved in match fixing. Because the penalties are so significant, up

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to a lifetime ban, a significant level of proof is required to find a

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player guilty. OK. And that is just really hard? It is not impossible.

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The Tennis Integrity Unit has sanctioned in excess of 20 players

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over the last few years for violations of anti-corruption rules

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in tennis. There is no doubt that match fixing in tennis is easy and

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it does exist. It would be good if the Tennis Integrity Unit was much

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more transparent into exactly what they are doing and how, then we

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could have as much confidence as we can have in what they are trying to

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achieve. The motivation for a player to throw a match is money, greed? It

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can be a combination of different things. Certainly there is a

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financial aspect to it. There is an aspect of taking advantage of an

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opportunity where there is opportunity and motive and then you

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will have people breaking rules. Another aspect of potential match

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fixing involves players that may be subject to blackmail. They may be

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linked to individuals who are blackmailing them to do things that

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they may not otherwise do. There can be a variety of explanations for why

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it does happen. That was Richard Ings. The culture secretary John

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Whittingdale says the integrity of the game has been put into question

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by the allegations. Well, it is a matter of great

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concern that yet another sport is now facing these allegations

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of criminal behaviour hot on the heels of both

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athletics and football. It does bring into question

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the whole integrity of the game which the fans rely upon,

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so the important thing is it should be investigated fully

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and transparently as quickly If fans cannot have confidence

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in the fairness of the game, then it undermines the support

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which they naturally want to give and it is also unfair

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on all the other players who are superb athletes

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competing fairly. So it is very important that these

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kinds of allegations be The important thing is that the game

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is seen to be completely fair and clean and that is a challenge

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for the International Tennis Federation and that obviously

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affects not just Wimbledon but every Sport is going through a dreadful

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period at the moment with allegations of corruption

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and criminality affecting a whole That is why I think

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the Prime Minister is right to hold an anti-corruption summit later this

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year which will look at sport Heidi Blake is the investigations

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editor at Buzzfeed. Scott Ferguson is a former Betfair

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and tennis trader and now wagering industry consultant

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for sport including tennis. Tell us more about the documents and

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what they suggest. The documents we have seen come from inside world

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tennis. They show that the Tennis Integrity Unit, based at Wimbledon,

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is tasked with taking a zero tolerance approach to match fixing

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and they have been warned again and again over the last decade about a

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core group of 16 players, half of whom are about to begin competing at

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the Australian open right now. They were first warned about a network of

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players who are implicated in highly suspicious

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matches in 2008 by their own team of investigators, who handed over a

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compelling dossier of evidence, including one player who exchanged

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text messages with a Sicilian fixer who made hundreds of thousands of

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pounds betting on his matches and the authorities did nothing to

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investigate it. How do you react to that, especially when they say they

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take a zero tolerance approach? We find it perplexing. They said they

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looked at the evidence that they had introduced a new integrity code

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after the 2008 investigation and had decided not to apply it

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retrospectively but to new cases going forward. They closed all the

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old cases. But the old integrity code had also banned match fixing.

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Every version of any sports coat will ban rigging the game, of

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course, that is against the rules. It seemed like a very strange

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answer. There are widespread allegations among everybody we have

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spoken to. Sports integrity experts, foreign police forces, everybody is

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saying tennis is not doing enough to crack down on the problem. What is

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the general profile, if there is such a thing, of a player who is

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vulnerable to being approached to throw a game? It is very difficult

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to answer that. It could be players at the end of their careers who have

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realised they will not go any further. They have put their life

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into this and have no other life skills. Body shop, this is my

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situation, I have nothing else left. Players that might come from the

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wrong side of the tracks, and they might know people in these circles.

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The tour is a lonely place and you might meet people in bars and hotels

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and strike up a conversation. It can go too far. It is very hard to get a

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blueprint. You don't even need to meet people because every player has

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Facebook and Twitter. What would you say the profile is? You know the 16

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with questions hanging over them. At the BBC, you and they are not naming

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them, so what is the profile of a vulnerable player? This core group

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of 16 players ranked in the top 50, many still in the top 50, that is

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surprising. Generally when we have spoken about match fixing in tennis

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in the past people have thought it is low ranking players. Certainly

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the players that have been disciplined are at the bottom level

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but this goes much higher than that, it suggests. The fixes get to these

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players when they are young. It is extremely expensive to be

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players when they are young. It is player. It can cost ?160,000 a year

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to stay on tour and pay your coaching staff and hotel bills and

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flying around the world and all that. Some of the lower level

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tournaments, the prize money might be 10,000 to win the match but to

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fix it you could make 100,000. When it costs 160,000 a year to be on

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tour, that is tempting. Richard Ings was telling us that if you were

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watching the game you might not necessarily be alerted to the fact

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something dodgy was going on, but if you look at the odds on players as

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the game goes on or the amount of money being put on a player as a

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game goes on, those are the things that can alert you. That would raise

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alarm bells. What would you look at? Bookmakers and professional trades

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people have models. 10s of thousands of matches go through, based on

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players, their predicted server holds, prize-money, that sort of

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thing. If we go back to the infamous Debbie Denko match in 2007, he was

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set and a break up and get the money was coming the wrong way. This does

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not commute. The money was going to the player that was losing at that

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point? Yes, huge amounts. And it turned out that it was linked

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accounts etc. These things should not normally happen and they happen.

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For those that love tennis, what do we do? Do we lose trust in it?

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Another sport that we have lost trust in?

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It is very hard to spot. A double faults just being out. It only takes

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a professional player to slightly change their lines. You're not going

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to notice, unless you have forensic evidence and modelling data and

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things like that. It is disappointing they do not have more

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resources to do investigations themselves. That match you

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mentioned, both players cleared of violations. Someone has said

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football and athletics were in denial, now it is tennis. Someone

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else says this sums up all sport. It has become a moral and criminal

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gangs can manipulate. Why such the large prizes? Someone else's tennis

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and athletics and football corrupt. People hacked off it would seem.

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Thank you for coming on the programme. You can hear more on that

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story on Radio 4. Get in touch and the usual ways, still to come,

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claims that dementia patients admitted to hospitals in England

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play roll it with their health. Should this man be banned from the

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UK? We will be discussing this with our audience before MPs discuss it

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today. First, it's time to see what making

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the main news this morning. The BBC and Buzzfeed news has seen

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evidence of suspected match fixing at the top level of world tennis,

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including games at Wimbledon. The culture secretary,

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John Whittingdale has urged for a full investigation

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to be carried out. David Cameron says thousands

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of Muslim women who can't speak The ?20 million-scheme is part

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of a drive to create a more cohesive In many cases it is no fault of

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their own, it is because there might have been put into a situation where

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they have not been encouraged to integrate, not learn the language.

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That is not acceptable in this country and these proposals will

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make sure its changes. MPs are to debate a petition later

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calling for a ban on the US Presidential hopeful Donald Trump

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from entering the UK. More than half a million people

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signed a petition after the business tycoon called for all Muslims to be

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barred from entering the US. Tata Steel is expected to announce

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more cuts to its UK workforce It's expected to say more

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than 1,000 jobs will go. 750 of them in Port

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Talbot in south Wales. The Alzheimer's Society says there's

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evidence that people with dementia in England are having to put up

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with really poor hospital care. The charity says patients are more

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likely to have falls in some hospitals, and too many

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are being discharged at night. A report by the charity Oxfam says

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the richest 1% of the world's population now owns more

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than the combined wealth of everyone We will talk more about that later

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when we talk to Oxfam just after 10am.

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Let's catch up with all the sport now.

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We will be talking more about the news that you have talked about this

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morning that the BBC reporting that there has been suspected match

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fixing across the top end of tennis. 16 players over the last ten years

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have been repeatedly reported to have been suspected to be match

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fixing but allowed to continue playing. That going against the

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thinking that there is a zero tolerance to match fixing in tennis

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and we will talk about that more. Controversy over the first day of

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the Australian Open. Never an ideal start. A lot of excitement usually.

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Especially with the first Grand Slam of the year. Not a great start for

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British players because the British number three has been knocked out in

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the first round suffering with cramp in his first-round match. He goes

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out in five sets. Heather Watson has won are opening set in her match.

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Mixed news as far as the play on the court is concerned. If we have time

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we will talk about Rodney Sullivan who has scored a record equalling

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sixth Masters victory at Alexandra Palace after beating Barry Hawkins

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10-1. An incredible win for a man who has said he has not been playing

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very well in the game. He said he has been embarrassed by his snooker

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at times. We will bring you more of that at 10am.

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MPs will debate today whether the man who could be

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the next US President should be banned from entering the UK.

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More than half a million people have signed a petition calling

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for the American tycoon turned politician Donald Trump to be banned

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after he called for all Muslims to be temporarily stopped

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My father gave me a small loan of $1 million, I came into Manhattan

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and I had to pay him back with interest.

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I gave up the word incompetent because it is really

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They bring in drugs, they bring in crime,

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She starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions

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and you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes,

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Donald J Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown

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of Muslims entering the United States until our

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country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on.

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We have places in London and other places that are so radicalised

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that the police are afraid for their own lives.

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We want Trump, we want Trump, we want Trump.

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Here's an extract from a Newsnight film on Donald Trump

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# And the needs of freedom...# It is easy to laugh at the schmaltz

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# Donald Trump knows how to make America great...

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This, believe it or not, was organised by people who support

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Donald Trump, not by his enemies to make him look ridiculous.

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But perhaps the Americans can laugh at the absurdity of our system

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As an example some might cite the fact that on Monday for three

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hours in a side room off the Commons MPs will discuss banning

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Let's talk to two British Muslims about this now.

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Haseeb Ahmed is a campaigner and commentator who doesn't think

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Tamanna Miah is a student at Canterbury University

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Why do you think Trump should be banned?

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We do not need that kind of negativity in this country. There is

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so much Islamophobia going on. 80% increase in London. I have been a

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victim of Islamophobia and racism. These are racist comments. People

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say he should visit mosques and things. There are mosques in

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America. There are good Muslims doing good things all across the

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world. He does not have to come to this country to experience the

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goodness. Why do you disagree? I agree with a lot of the points. We

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have to dissect everything bit by bit. What he is saying is immoral,

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wrong, bigotry, Islamophobe X. You would still have him in Britain. I

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would. It is better to educate. It is more proactive to educate than to

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ban him. He says he wants to ban Muslims from coming into the

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country. A couple of weeks ago there was a female Muslim without saying

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anything she was is courted out of one of his rallies. If we ban him we

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are no better off than what he is trying to portray. Education is

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important but if somebody is so entrenched in their views it is

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difficult to change their views overnight. Are you not the same as

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him wanting to buy new? We have a duty to like after people in the

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country and influences like that will have a big impact in this

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country. It is bad enough we have daily attacks, daily abuse,

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Islamophobia, people listening to his views, and the more people who

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engage with him, it is not going to be good. Do you take the point that

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if you get someone to come here and say those things there is a direct

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correlation between those kind of vile comments and physical attacks

:26:22.:26:27.

on people like you? I think there is a direct correlation. Having said

:26:28.:26:31.

that over the last year or so I have had many right wing people from the

:26:32.:26:36.

UK who have been supporters of people like Katie Hopkins in the

:26:37.:26:41.

past where due to dialogue and me speaking to them about my religion

:26:42.:26:45.

in a positive way they have changed our minds and become less extreme in

:26:46.:26:50.

their opinion. Would you not like to get the chance to top to Donald

:26:51.:26:55.

Trump to change his mind? I am always open for discussion. I am

:26:56.:27:00.

worried. Recently people have been stopped going to

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worried. Recently people have been because of extra precautions, they

:27:20.:27:19.

worried. Recently people have been are being stopped. Influences like

:27:20.:27:19.

this have are being stopped. Influences like

:27:20.:27:31.

educate him further and if he was to change his mind can you imagine the

:27:32.:27:39.

educate him further and if he was to could change his mind, even if he

:27:40.:27:46.

educate him further and if he was to think he could change his mind

:27:47.:27:55.

educate him further and if he was to try. Do you think MPs should be

:27:56.:27:55.

debating this? There is try. Do you think MPs should be

:27:56.:28:02.

Ministers have already said they are not going to ban

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Ministers have already said they are people's bidding? We live in a

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democracy people's bidding? We live in a

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100,000 signatures we should be able to

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100,000 signatures we should be able democracy we should be

:28:29.:29:22.

100,000 signatures we should be able people better in this

:29:23.:29:22.

two-and-a-half years, there will be another opportunity

:29:23.:29:31.

to make sure your English is improving and you cannot

:29:32.:29:40.

pot of money and the idea is that Just for Muslim

:29:41.:29:50.

pot of money and the idea is that reach. By targeting isolated

:29:51.:29:50.

pot of money and the idea is that and getting them to speak English

:29:51.:29:59.

integrated society. What is this link about potentially people being

:30:00.:29:59.

deported? They might link about potentially people being

:30:00.:30:13.

saying that. There will be a new test. If people

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saying that. There will be a new to extend that stay they will take a

:30:32.:30:31.

test. They would to extend that stay they will take a

:30:32.:30:41.

eligible to stay. You have to extend that stay they will take a

:30:42.:30:47.

what the Prime Minister says is a responsibility to

:30:48.:31:13.

what the Prime Minister says is a village in Pakistan. His mother

:31:14.:31:13.

cannot speaking Rashad rarely leaves home. They

:31:14.:31:25.

does not find it easy to deal with differences in culture. This can

:31:26.:31:25.

help prompt extremist narrative gives them

:31:26.:31:38.

something however ridiculous to believe

:31:39.:31:38.

something however ridiculous to extremism and one of the links

:31:39.:31:47.

something however ridiculous to a lack of identity for people that

:31:48.:31:47.

turn into extremism. a lack of identity for people that

:31:48.:31:54.

English and the lack of communication between parent and

:31:55.:32:03.

English and the lack of should be leading English according

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to David should be leading English according

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women not integrating together. I think

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women not integrating together. I about segregation and references a

:32:28.:32:36.

school women, who have told him that the

:32:37.:32:36.

male governors sitting women, who have told him that the

:32:37.:32:48.

normal. If you women, who have told him that the

:32:49.:32:56.

so normal. I completely women, who have told him that the

:32:57.:33:08.

it. All-female classes is a good idea,

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it. All-female classes is a good for your charity shop, working in

:33:15.:33:14.

the local community, that happen, you need to have English

:33:15.:33:22.

first, I suppose. Even doing happen, you need to have English

:33:23.:33:31.

complement each other very well. Thank you.

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complement each other very well. have enough bigots in Britain to try

:33:39.:33:39.

and tackle have enough bigots in Britain to try

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from coming to Britain for exercising its right to

:33:48.:33:59.

from coming to Britain for fighting. He has whipped up... Are

:34:00.:33:59.

with a same roulette with their health,

:34:00.:34:27.

a charity is warning. made to hospital trusts in England

:34:28.:34:27.

found shocking evidence of poor It's thought patients with dementia

:34:28.:34:27.

occupy about one in as other patients, and in some

:34:28.:34:27.

hospitals up to seven times longer than other patients aged over 65.

:34:28.:36:09.

getting it wrong. Dementia is not being diagnosed. They are having

:36:10.:36:17.

falls. They need better treatment over. Some hospitals are making the

:36:18.:36:25.

difference. We need everyone to join our campaign and make sure everyone

:36:26.:36:30.

gets the help they need. Hospitals should be placed getting better. We

:36:31.:36:37.

are seeing people getting worse. Tell us about the experiences you

:36:38.:36:46.

have come across. My father after whom the campaign is named was an

:36:47.:36:49.

example of what Jeremy is talking about because he went into hospital

:36:50.:36:57.

with leg ulcers. He had dementia. He never should have gone into

:36:58.:37:01.

hospital. He was there for over four weeks. We were not allowed to visit

:37:02.:37:10.

him very much. He declined into somebody like a cost in his own

:37:11.:37:17.

life. I wholeheartedly support everything that Jeremy is saying

:37:18.:37:21.

about dementia training in hospital and changing the way we think about

:37:22.:37:27.

people with dementia in hospital. Our campaign is saying added to that

:37:28.:37:32.

we have to open up hospitals so that carers are welcome.

:37:33.:37:42.

What happened? The hospital had restricted visiting hours. The

:37:43.:37:47.

doctors and nurses were great and they cured the leg ulcers. He had an

:37:48.:37:51.

outbreak of Nora virus meaning we were not allowed in to see him. If I

:37:52.:37:56.

had known then what I know now, I would not have accepted that. I

:37:57.:37:59.

would have chained myself to the bed rather than abandon him, but I did

:38:00.:38:05.

not know. He went in, articulate, consonant, healthy, utterly

:38:06.:38:12.

immobile, cheerful. He had a good life. He came out inarticulate,

:38:13.:38:17.

incontinent, skeletal, immobile, and he lived for a further nine months.

:38:18.:38:22.

It is called lingering. He lingered for a further nine months and could

:38:23.:38:28.

not recognise anybody and had no life really. I have a co-campaigner,

:38:29.:38:32.

Julia Jones, and what we have both discovered since then with the help

:38:33.:38:37.

of people like Jeremy and The Alzheimer's Society, is how

:38:38.:38:40.

terrifyingly familiar this story is and how hazardous hospitals are for

:38:41.:38:45.

old people. Tell us about the people you have helped in your support

:38:46.:38:49.

group with similar examples. My friend Pat, her husband was admitted

:38:50.:38:57.

to hospital in A and he was on a Bedford two days. Eventually he went

:38:58.:39:02.

up to award and it was not a dementia ward and so they would not

:39:03.:39:06.

let her in unless it was visiting hours. With persuasion she went in

:39:07.:39:13.

and state 24/7. There were people there with dementia on drips and so

:39:14.:39:17.

on. She had to keep running out and telling the nurses. They got an

:39:18.:39:23.

agency nursing, but she was just there to observe, not help. I don't

:39:24.:39:30.

think you have needed an overnight stay in hospital since your

:39:31.:39:34.

diagnosis. They are horrible stories about people. The people looking

:39:35.:39:39.

after people with dementia have no training. They are put on ordinary

:39:40.:39:42.

wards and they don't realise that people with dementia need more water

:39:43.:39:48.

than the average person. We get dehydrated all the time. But we

:39:49.:39:55.

don't feel thirsty. They put water beside people with dementia that

:39:56.:39:58.

they don't drink it, so they take it away. They put food beside them and

:39:59.:40:03.

because they don't eat it, they assume they are not hungry. It is a

:40:04.:40:07.

vicious cycle and the next meal time the same thing happens again. People

:40:08.:40:12.

have ended up with malnutrition in hospital. That is really shocking

:40:13.:40:17.

but so simple, the way Tommy has just explained it. It could be

:40:18.:40:22.

sorted out now. It is not about spending more money. It is about all

:40:23.:40:32.

the staff in the hospital, not just nurses, but support staff, being

:40:33.:40:34.

more aware of dementia and making sure people eat and drink

:40:35.:40:36.

more aware of dementia and making risk falling out of bed and injuring

:40:37.:40:38.

themselves. With little things in place, we could make sure that

:40:39.:40:41.

people with dementia do not stay for an extended time in hospital. ?400 a

:40:42.:40:45.

day to stay in hospital. We are spending that money putting them in

:40:46.:40:49.

hospital where they get worse. If we put that money into supporting

:40:50.:40:52.

people in the community with the right support, everybody would be

:40:53.:40:56.

better off. It is obvious the matter of training and that is essential as

:40:57.:41:01.

it seems mad that it does not happen to all of the nursing staff. But no

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matter how wonderful a nurse's training and how wonderful and aware

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they are, you get some hospitals, and I think the figure is one in

:41:11.:41:22.

three or four hospitals have people occupying beds who have dementia,

:41:23.:41:27.

and the nurses just cannot cope with that. Weirdest community against

:41:28.:41:34.

older people. If you have a child in hospital it is automatic that the

:41:35.:41:40.

parents should be there. -- we are discriminating against older people.

:41:41.:41:44.

It is not automatic if it is an older person and they are left alone

:41:45.:41:47.

and they do not eat and gets aborted. Letting people be there

:41:48.:41:52.

with their loved one and giving them support will help. Imagine waking up

:41:53.:41:59.

in a hospital bed, every day. It is the first time we have seen the

:42:00.:42:03.

room. The first time we have seen strangers in the room walking round.

:42:04.:42:10.

In some hospitals, teaching hospitals, you can have ten people

:42:11.:42:13.

around the bed, sticking glass tubes in your mouth and you don't know

:42:14.:42:18.

what it is. The automatic reaction is to bite it. You don't know what

:42:19.:42:24.

it is they are putting in your mouth and you don't understand. Thank you

:42:25.:42:28.

very much for coming on the programme. Good luck with the

:42:29.:42:34.

campaign. Your personal experiences of course, your pertinent experience

:42:35.:42:38.

of dementia patients being treated in hospital, please let us know and

:42:39.:42:44.

we will read some out. Still to come, a report from Oxfam saying

:42:45.:42:48.

that the richest 1% of the world's population now owns the combined

:42:49.:42:50.

wealth of everybody else on the planet. Absolutely astounding fact.

:42:51.:42:56.

We will speak to the charity after ten o'clock. Time for the weather

:42:57.:43:05.

because it is nearly ten o'clock. Hello, Carol. Have I seen you? Have

:43:06.:43:12.

we done happy New Year? We have. Have you had any snow? A light

:43:13.:43:21.

dusting yesterday morning. I want to show this picture. Is the animal

:43:22.:43:26.

alive? Yes! But look at the Cat. Complete idiot! It is called What

:43:27.:43:41.

Are You Playing At? . We did not see snow in all areas. Where I was,

:43:42.:43:45.

there was none. We have seen people playing in it and enjoying it. It

:43:46.:43:50.

has frozen, so now there is a risk of ice. It is starting to melt. But

:43:51.:43:55.

this was not forecast on Friday morning. It was during the course of

:43:56.:43:59.

Friday during the day that we started to realise this was going to

:44:00.:44:05.

happen. Is this a retrospective apology? Lower! I will explain why.

:44:06.:44:16.

-- no! Harry Kane Alex formed in the Atlantic and it is the first to form

:44:17.:44:25.

since 1938. We had one in 1935 but that was quite unusual. If I show

:44:26.:44:30.

you the satellite now, this is what happened. Hurricane Alex came up

:44:31.:44:34.

through the Atlantic, North, with all of its energy coming with it. It

:44:35.:44:39.

created a ripple which flooded across the UK, bumping into the cold

:44:40.:44:44.

air, hence the snow. Simple scenario really. The burning question on your

:44:45.:44:50.

lips, that is... Tell me what the burning question is. Will we see

:44:51.:44:57.

more? I will press on with the forecast but always nice to see you.

:44:58.:45:02.

A bit of snow in the forecast, especially across Scotland. This

:45:03.:45:06.

week it is cold and it will turn milder through the week. Then

:45:07.:45:12.

weather will be coming in again from the Atlantic, introducing wet and

:45:13.:45:16.

windy conditions. Low pressure is driving things today. This weather

:45:17.:45:20.

front is producing rain, sleet and snow across Scotland. This second

:45:21.:45:23.

one has been producing heavy rain this morning across South Wales and

:45:24.:45:29.

the South West. It will pull away and the gusty winds will ease. We

:45:30.:45:33.

have seen a lot of rain from that so surface water and spray on the roads

:45:34.:45:38.

across the South West of England towards Dorset and South Wales. And

:45:39.:45:42.

rain and the other end of the country with sleet and snow. Snow

:45:43.:45:45.

mostly over the higher ground and the Grampians but we cannot rule at

:45:46.:45:50.

wintriness over lower levels, say in Glasgow and Edinburgh. Today will

:45:51.:45:54.

brighten up through East Anglia, Essex, Kent, drifting to the

:45:55.:46:04.

Midlands. For many western areas, it will be fairly cloudy and at times

:46:05.:46:06.

we will see showers. For northern Scotland, we have already got

:46:07.:46:08.

sunshine and some showers. The weather front sinks to the South and

:46:09.:46:13.

clear conditions come in behind. Not too far away from the far North of

:46:14.:46:17.

Northern Ireland, that weather front. Fairly cloudy across northern

:46:18.:46:21.

England and cold. Wales will still have some showers this afternoon but

:46:22.:46:25.

they will be fairly few and far between. With South West England, a

:46:26.:46:30.

similar story after the heavy rain of this morning, with things

:46:31.:46:34.

improving. Things turned recently. From the Midlands to the Isle of

:46:35.:46:37.

Wight, more cloud with sunshine in the South East corner. Overnight,

:46:38.:46:42.

the weather front across Scotland sinks South, as a feature. It could

:46:43.:46:47.

still produce hill snow and showery outbreaks of rain in the South West.

:46:48.:46:51.

Where we have got blue colouring on the chart, that is where we have got

:46:52.:46:55.

clear skies and it will be cold. We are looking at a hard frost tonight.

:46:56.:47:00.

If you focus on the South, in towns and cities, the temperature will be

:47:01.:47:04.

around freezing or just below. In rural parts of the South it could be

:47:05.:47:12.

down to minus seven or eight, lower than it has been in the South this

:47:13.:47:15.

January. Tomorrow will be cold as we start with the risk of ice on

:47:16.:47:19.

untreated surfaces. With clear skies there will be sunshine. But variable

:47:20.:47:22.

amounts of cloud and showers in the South West at times at no heat wave

:47:23.:47:28.

with temperatures still low. Two in the Northern isles with a height

:47:29.:47:31.

average of four in London and maybe seven in Plymouth.

:47:32.:47:49.

we have to open up hospitals so that carers are welcome.

:47:50.:47:49.

Temperatures between three and seven Celsius. On Thursday we start to see

:47:50.:47:57.

signs of the change. Bright spells or some sunshine. Showers coming

:47:58.:48:03.

from the west. This is going to introduce wet and windy weather

:48:04.:48:06.

behind me in the latter part of this week.

:48:07.:48:13.

Welcome to the programme if you've just joined us, coming

:48:14.:48:26.

Tennis players are being accused of deliberately throwing

:48:27.:48:28.

It's emerged that over the last decade concerns have been raised

:48:29.:48:32.

about 16 players who have ranked in the top 50.

:48:33.:48:35.

In Paris they offered me double money to lose in straight sets.

:48:36.:48:39.

The prisoner officers association tell us why they are looking to

:48:40.:48:45.

force the Prison Service to bring forward a ban on smoking in England

:48:46.:48:51.

and Wales. They are warning of an increase in the use of legal highs.

:48:52.:48:54.

He might say things you don't agree with but should US Presidential

:48:55.:48:57.

hopeful, Donald Trump, be banned from coming to Britain?

:48:58.:49:03.

The BBC and Buzzfeed news has seen evidence of suspected match fixing

:49:04.:49:08.

at the top level of world tennis, including games at Wimbledon.

:49:09.:49:11.

16 players who have ranked in the top 50 have repeatedly fallen

:49:12.:49:15.

under suspicion of throwing matches, but have been allowed

:49:16.:49:18.

David Cameron says thousands of Muslim women who can't speak

:49:19.:49:23.

The ?20 million-scheme is part of a drive to create a more cohesive

:49:24.:49:29.

In many cases it is no fault of their own,

:49:30.:49:39.

it is because they have been put into a situation where they have not

:49:40.:49:42.

been encouraged to integrate, not learn the language.

:49:43.:49:44.

That is not acceptable in this country and these proposals

:49:45.:49:47.

Tata Steel is expected to announce more cuts to its UK workforce

:49:48.:49:53.

It's expected to say more than 1,000 jobs will go,

:49:54.:49:56.

750 of them in Port Talbot in south Wales.

:49:57.:50:02.

Oil prices have continued to fall, following the lifting

:50:03.:50:08.

Brent crude dropped below $28 a barrel for the first time

:50:09.:50:12.

since 2003, before recovering slightly.

:50:13.:50:16.

MPs are to debate a petition later calling for a ban on the US

:50:17.:50:20.

Presidential hopeful Donald Trump from entering the UK.

:50:21.:50:23.

More than half a million people signed a petition after the business

:50:24.:50:27.

tycoon called for all Muslims to be barred from entering the US.

:50:28.:50:31.

The Alzheimer's Society says there's evidence that people with dementia

:50:32.:50:33.

in England are having to put up with poor hospital care.

:50:34.:50:38.

The charity says patients are more likely to have falls in some

:50:39.:50:40.

hospitals, and too many are being discharged at night.

:50:41.:50:51.

These figures represent the wild's 62 richest people. Their combined

:50:52.:51:06.

wealth adds up to 1.2 trillion pounds.

:51:07.:51:13.

population now owns more than the combined wealth of everyone

:51:14.:51:15.

With me now is Max Lawson, head of policy and advocacy for Oxfam.

:51:16.:51:18.

How have you worked out this figure? Every year you see figures published

:51:19.:51:24.

by a Swiss bank and you can browse that with the wealth of the top

:51:25.:51:28.

richest people and that has shown us that 62 people who would fit on a

:51:29.:51:32.

bus have the same wealth as the bottom half of the world's

:51:33.:51:38.

population, an incredible figure. Terrible. With this inequality

:51:39.:51:42.

crisis looming we have to see effective measures to close that gap

:51:43.:51:46.

to try to reduce the gap between rich and poor. We will ask you about

:51:47.:51:53.

the figures again in a second because some people are querying it,

:51:54.:51:57.

but what do you think should be done? One of the reasons for this

:51:58.:52:01.

runaway wealth of the register the top is that many of them make use of

:52:02.:52:06.

a secretiveness work of tax havens to hide their wealth you have a

:52:07.:52:10.

strange upside-down situation where might a billionaire can pay a lower

:52:11.:52:14.

effective tax rate than a nurse or a teacher. Billionaires are paying 3%

:52:15.:52:21.

or 5% whereas teachers are nurses maybe 25%. The UK Government is in a

:52:22.:52:28.

unique position to clamp down on tax havens. The Queen of the head of

:52:29.:52:33.

state of many of the world's tax havens, like Bermudez, the Cayman

:52:34.:52:37.

Islands, the British Virgin Islands. The Chancellor would say he has

:52:38.:52:41.

certainly done something. He has made some very strong speeches in

:52:42.:52:45.

the right direction and even David Cameron a few years ago said that

:52:46.:52:49.

tax evaders should wake up and smell the coffee but we have to see

:52:50.:52:53.

greater action to put pressure on these secretive places because we

:52:54.:52:56.

think the rich should pay their share the same as everybody else and

:52:57.:53:01.

this would help to close this huge gap between those at the top and

:53:02.:53:06.

ordinary people. Some people asking if the figures at the top are skewed

:53:07.:53:10.

by those who own property. Not really. We have looked at all of the

:53:11.:53:14.

numbers undone them again and had them peer reviewed by expert

:53:15.:53:19.

economists. It is not just Oxfam saying this, it is the IMF and the

:53:20.:53:24.

World Bank agreeing that inequality is out of control. It is not

:53:25.:53:29.

inevitable. Closing the gap is not difficult. With the right policies

:53:30.:53:33.

making direct NFS share we could live in a much more equal world

:53:34.:53:37.

where we could see it spent on school books. Thank you.

:53:38.:53:41.

Let's catch up with the sport with Ore.

:53:42.:53:48.

It hasn't been the way authorities at the Australian Open would have

:53:49.:53:51.

Controversy surrounding the sport this morning as reports of suspected

:53:52.:53:57.

widespread match-fixing at the top of tennis have been revealed

:53:58.:53:59.

They allege that over the last decade, 16 players ranked

:54:00.:54:06.

in the world's top 50 have been repeatedly flagged

:54:07.:54:09.

to the Tennis Integrity Unit over suspicions they have thrown matches.

:54:10.:54:13.

Chris Kermode, who heads world tennis, rejected claims evidence

:54:14.:54:15.

We are so confident that there is nothing in the sport that has been

:54:16.:54:30.

suppressed. We are confident that the tennis integrity unit is doing

:54:31.:54:35.

what it can. And tackles this issue very seriously. I think it will be

:54:36.:54:42.

seen that tennis is in a very good place and we are acting accordingly.

:54:43.:54:48.

Let's speak to the BBC's Simon Cox who has uncovered this story.

:54:49.:54:55.

Chris Kermode saying there is no suppressing of any of these stories

:54:56.:55:00.

but suggesting that your evidence tells a different story. What is

:55:01.:55:06.

important, the ATP talked about suppressing evidence, we have never

:55:07.:55:11.

said the ATP suppressed evidence, we said from the files that were leaked

:55:12.:55:17.

to ours, they had received a report that investigators had spent a year

:55:18.:55:22.

on and come up with 28 players who they felt should be investigated,

:55:23.:55:27.

they said the evidence was really strong and the tennis integrity unit

:55:28.:55:31.

had looked at that and did not call it evidence, they said it was

:55:32.:55:35.

information and now do investigations were launched into

:55:36.:55:39.

those players. We found some of those players cropped up in other

:55:40.:55:43.

alerts after this. We are not saying they suppressed that, we are seeing

:55:44.:55:49.

they were given evidence and did not act. Some of this information from

:55:50.:55:52.

your evidence implicates Wimbledon matches being fixed as well. Are

:55:53.:55:59.

they suggesting they will want to help or eradicate some of this going

:56:00.:56:05.

forward? What is interesting about the Wimbledon matches, these are

:56:06.:56:10.

linked to senior gamblers, that they had bet on three suspicious matches

:56:11.:56:16.

at Wimbledon. I asked Chris Kermode at the ATP is they had informed

:56:17.:56:21.

Wimbledon about this and he said they had. We have not spoken to the

:56:22.:56:26.

all England club about this though it would be interesting to know

:56:27.:56:31.

their response. We are still talking even with the evidence we have got

:56:32.:56:36.

of 16 players over the last decade, still a small number compared to the

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hundreds of tennis professionals. What the investigators had said who

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spent a long time on this was that they felt there was an opportunity

:56:46.:56:50.

for tennis to deal with this small corner of players who they thought

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there was very strong suspicions they were involved in match fixing

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antennas had not done that. Thank you. -- and tennis. We will hear

:56:58.:57:09.

more on that as it comes out. We will bring you more as we hear it.

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Hello, thank you for joining us this morning, welcome to the programme

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We want to hear from you. Thank you for those of you getting in touch

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there is no way the future American president should be banned from

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Britain. He says it is odds-on that Donald Trump will be the next

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American president. Someone says, do not let him anywhere near our

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country. Someone says, do not ban him. Someone says, Donald Trump

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should be educated. Someone says, what a song and dance about Donald

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Trump, he has every right to be here. People are making a meal out

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of nothing. Texts will be charged

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watch our programme online - via the bbc news app

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or our website bbc.co.uk/victoria. This programme has learnt that

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the Prisoners Officers Association is planning to try to force

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the prison service to bring forward a ban on smoking in prisons

:58:29.:58:31.

in England and Wales. They say an increase in the use

:58:32.:58:37.

of legal highs like spice and black mamba are causing

:58:38.:58:42.

huge problems for them - with both officers and inmates

:58:43.:58:45.

regularly needing treatment - and plan to try and launch

:58:46.:58:47.

a judicial review in court forcing The Prison Officers Association have

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been recording incidents over the past 6 months from serving

:58:51.:58:54.

prison officers who've reported feeling unwell, which

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they've shared with us. This video, which appears to show

:58:58.:59:37.

inmates at a prison in Oxfordshire preparing to take legal highs,

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was posted online last week. Conditions have gone downhill in the

:59:42.:59:47.

last six months. Staff Conditions have gone downhill in the

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this is widely available everywhere. This is spice, a legal high widely

:00:00.:00:03.

available on every landing anywhere. It is phenomenal. It is everywhere.

:00:04.:00:06.

The Government says it's committed to a smoke-free prison service

:00:07.:00:09.

and that a pilot ban is being brought in for all prisons

:00:10.:00:15.

in Wales and for four prisons in England early this year.

:00:16.:00:18.

With me is Steve Gillan from the Prison Officers Association,

:00:19.:00:21.

Andy Jackson and Kelly who are former prisoners and smokers

:00:22.:00:23.

and James Parker from the Rehabilitation for

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Why do you not tell us why it is such a problem for your staff and

:00:26.:00:40.

inmates? I will try to be brief and concise. The health act in 2006

:00:41.:00:48.

deemed because of the smoking in public places, everybody knows it is

:00:49.:00:54.

damaging to health, but as well as secondary smoking and passive

:00:55.:01:00.

smoking, in 2007 it was banned, it was brought in in Scotland in 2006,

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and banned in England and Wales in 2007. Some exemptions for prisons

:01:08.:01:12.

were given even though we objected, because the legislation was brought

:01:13.:01:17.

in to protect workers from excessive smoke except. The government have

:01:18.:01:23.

accepted it should be banned in prisons. It is going to be rolled

:01:24.:01:27.

out over the next few years and you are saying that is not fast enough.

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That is not what the government are saying. If you look at the response,

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it is on the never never. It could be rolled out in 20 years. What is

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the issue? Quality control is measured. Their evidence say it is

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off the radar that prison officers and prisoners will suffer or could

:01:52.:01:53.

suffer ill-health effects. Everybody knows the dangers of

:01:54.:02:03.

secondary smoking. They estimate that 80% of prisoners smoke and I am

:02:04.:02:07.

not surprised. Some prisoners are given tobacco packs when they

:02:08.:02:12.

arrived in prison whether they smoke or not.

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And obviously there is a security risk. Your staff are being taken to

:02:18.:02:23.

hospital because of crushing chest pains, and the things we mentioned,

:02:24.:02:27.

dizziness and nausea, which is not good. You are absolutely right,

:02:28.:02:35.

Victoria. If places like the USA, Canada, Australia and news and can

:02:36.:02:39.

implement non-smoking policies, then I am sure they can in England and

:02:40.:02:44.

Wales. It is very important, this issue. Added to that, the new legal

:02:45.:02:55.

highs, which are out of control. They are so-called legal highs but

:02:56.:02:58.

there is nothing illegal about them. They are damaging to the health of

:02:59.:03:01.

prisoners and prison officers and something urgently needs to be done.

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80% of inmates smoke, four out of five prisoners. You have been there.

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What is the culture and why do so many smoke? If I was going to put it

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on something, why people smoke, it is a stressful environment for

:03:19.:03:23.

people to be in. Personally, why I smoked while I was serving my

:03:24.:03:27.

sentence, I was bored. I was spending a lot of time behind my

:03:28.:03:34.

door, not really being engaged. I went into prison with substance

:03:35.:03:37.

misuse and addiction to drugs and alcohol, so I addressed that by

:03:38.:03:42.

completing an accredited programme. It is about addressing behaviour is

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linked to taking drugs and alcohol but that can also be applied to

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taking nicotine, smoking cigarettes. For me, I feel it is about having

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that level of engagement. I did try to quit when I was inside but

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prisons are notorious for long waiting lists. It took quite a while

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for me to be seen. By then I did not really want to engage. Kelly, do you

:04:05.:04:12.

accept that prison officers want to bring in this smoking ban in prisons

:04:13.:04:16.

are an ad and Wales because it is a health hazard for staff and inmates

:04:17.:04:21.

and potentially a security risk if staff are being taken to hospital? I

:04:22.:04:28.

believe strongly that if there is going to be a smoking ban put in

:04:29.:04:32.

place, things need to go alongside it. People go into prison with many

:04:33.:04:37.

more problems than just smoking. The waiting list that Andy was talking

:04:38.:04:41.

about. If I have got to say, it takes me two weeks to get looked at.

:04:42.:04:49.

-- if I have got toothache. So the problems created by this ban coming

:04:50.:04:53.

into place would be massive so they need something in place, some kind

:04:54.:04:58.

of structure to support that. Prison officers, I can understand where

:04:59.:05:00.

they are coming from, the health risks. I myself had a problem with

:05:01.:05:09.

substance misuse. Before you went into jail? Yes. When you got inside,

:05:10.:05:14.

you were already addicted to drugs, then what? You are in jail so of

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course you are going to smoke? They assess you as soon as you get

:05:24.:05:28.

through the door. You see a doctor. The quickest and easiest thing for

:05:29.:05:33.

them is to put you on a script. And maintain you on that. What does that

:05:34.:05:38.

mean? They put you on a methadone detox. As I know from experience in

:05:39.:05:47.

prison, those drugs are being misused in prisons. In what way? In

:05:48.:05:53.

that addicts will do anything they can to get a fix one behind the door

:05:54.:05:59.

because there is nothing else to do. What lengths would add inmates go to

:06:00.:06:07.

to get some methadone? I have known women to use their bodies. I have

:06:08.:06:17.

known violence to be created from stuff. People getting into debt.

:06:18.:06:30.

Major issues come in. We were saying earlier, with a bit of tobacco in

:06:31.:06:34.

prison, it is either one extreme to the other. You can go and buy drugs

:06:35.:06:42.

that will get you off your face or get food from the server workers. It

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is something that prisoners have used for a long time as a currency,

:06:49.:06:54.

I believe. Maybe I am totally naive but it is shocking to me that you

:06:55.:06:58.

can get hold of such drugs inside jail. That shows you how difficult

:06:59.:07:03.

it is to get rid of these drugs in jail and why it is having an effect

:07:04.:07:07.

on staff and inmates in terms of second-hand smoking. It is a

:07:08.:07:12.

challenge in many areas. We deliver substance misuse programmes but also

:07:13.:07:16.

treatment programmes for people that want to stop smoking as well. There

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has got to be the resources, the support. It is a pandemic now across

:07:21.:07:27.

prisons, which has really picked up over the last year. The level of

:07:28.:07:36.

support required for resin is using NPS, the so-called legal highs,

:07:37.:07:40.

which are toxic and dangerous and unpredictable. Some of the reactions

:07:41.:07:45.

that our clients and prisoners have been having, where they are being

:07:46.:07:50.

blue lighted out of prison and needing emergency care. It is a

:07:51.:07:55.

crisis that we are trying to manage and we are slowly getting there in

:07:56.:08:03.

terms of education, training prison officers and staff, but something

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like a smoking ban needs a co-ordinated approach across all of

:08:07.:08:13.

the jails. This text says that the smoking ban is crazy cruel.

:08:14.:08:17.

Prisoners are miserable enough, so don't stop inmates smoking as well.

:08:18.:08:22.

The staff are delicate flowers. I think we are the only workers in

:08:23.:08:27.

Britain not protected by the legislation and I think that is

:08:28.:08:31.

disgraceful, quite rightly. Prison officers are workers. You have heard

:08:32.:08:35.

from Kelly, Andy and James, and each one of them has said about the

:08:36.:08:40.

dangers of drugs and smoking in our prisons, and tobacco is used as a

:08:41.:08:44.

currency. There is violence created by it. Fires set by it. It puts a

:08:45.:08:50.

strain on the fire brigade. The NHS is coming under attack. The strain

:08:51.:08:55.

from that as well. The sensible thing to do, because all the

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evidence is there, is set out a clear plan and timetable to protect

:09:00.:09:05.

workers and prisoners. And if that does not happen, you will take the

:09:06.:09:09.

Government to a judicial review to force the ban? We have started the

:09:10.:09:13.

process. We have told the Government and our employer. We have put them

:09:14.:09:18.

on a 30 day notice to improve health and safety for prisoners and staff

:09:19.:09:21.

because the prisons are in crisis and we will go to a judicial review.

:09:22.:09:26.

And from our audience, banning smoking will lead to riots and

:09:27.:09:33.

unrest so is it worth it? You have already mentioned Canada and New

:09:34.:09:36.

Zealand and a small prison in Guernsey has done it, with 130

:09:37.:09:42.

inmates, without riots. Broadmoor implemented it very safely and

:09:43.:09:49.

swiftly in 2008. From an inside perspective, I believe that will be

:09:50.:09:53.

the case. I believe there will be an uproar. OK. If it was done over an

:09:54.:09:59.

integrated process, with the right support, and the right incentives,

:10:00.:10:03.

people getting activities outside their cells, and more access to the

:10:04.:10:09.

gym, then it has the potential to be done properly. Thank you for coming

:10:10.:10:14.

on the programme. The prison service told us they had long been committed

:10:15.:10:18.

to a smoke-free prison environment and from early next year all prisons

:10:19.:10:23.

in Wales and early this year, they mean, four prisons in the South West

:10:24.:10:27.

of England will be smoke-free, they say.

:10:28.:10:31.

Still to come before 11: The NHS says it will introduce its own sugar

:10:32.:10:34.

Should they be charging extra on sugary drinks

:10:35.:10:37.

Police with riot shields have gathered at an entrance

:10:38.:10:44.

to the Calais migrants camp known as The Jungle.

:10:45.:10:46.

Hundreds of migrants are being asked to leave from one area before

:10:47.:10:49.

bulldozers move in to clear tents away.

:10:50.:10:54.

They're being offered accommodation in a new housing project as part

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Our correspondent Gavin is at The Jungle. Tell us about what is

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happening there right now and what the migrants are making of it. What

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you can see now are the images of the riot police, a dozen or so, on

:11:17.:11:20.

the edge of part of the camp, who are basically trying to secure an

:11:21.:11:24.

area where three bulldozers have come in in the past half an hour or

:11:25.:11:28.

so, to start trying to secure the area. It is very close to the

:11:29.:11:32.

motorway here. This whole area around us is about two square

:11:33.:11:37.

kilometres, former chemical dumping ground, but it is virtually empty

:11:38.:11:41.

around here because migrants have left. If I show you around places

:11:42.:11:49.

where there are still migrants... There are some that have been

:11:50.:11:52.

listening to aid workers for the last few days and have been given a

:11:53.:11:56.

deadline to move all of their things, move everything into

:11:57.:11:59.

containers, or what most of them have done, move further into the

:12:00.:12:04.

cab. That is what they have been doing. This is the Pakistani section

:12:05.:12:11.

of the camp. Two tense here, this one and this one, they have left for

:12:12.:12:17.

the UK. They have left these here, so when they are cleared there is

:12:18.:12:21.

nobody living in them. I am told they have managed to get to the UK.

:12:22.:12:25.

From this tent here, they left overnight. Everything they were

:12:26.:12:28.

eating, these are the remnants of what they left behind. Some people

:12:29.:12:34.

have left it late. They did not want to go. Come through this way. Some

:12:35.:12:38.

people are burning what they have got, the remnants of their tent, in

:12:39.:12:45.

a fire over here. I have seen maybe 30 or 40 people around here who have

:12:46.:12:51.

said they will hold out. We are not seeing clashes but the police are

:12:52.:12:55.

threatening that. Let me bring in Ahmed from Pakistan. Can we briefly

:12:56.:13:00.

have a word with you? We have just seen you throw your tent into the

:13:01.:13:04.

fire. Tell me about you. You have been told you have got to leave here

:13:05.:13:16.

today. What is your situation? Yes, my life is no good. My mother,

:13:17.:13:22.

father, problem. No money, no house, Pakistan. How long have you been

:13:23.:13:28.

here? Five months. You have been burning your tent and your clothing.

:13:29.:13:40.

Yes. Problem. 2000 people here. Where are you going to go? Police

:13:41.:13:45.

are clearing the area. You have been told by French authorities that you

:13:46.:13:48.

can go to containers with heating and electricity and 12 birds. Will

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you go there? Yes, contain a good. -- container is good. Good life. You

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like the idea of the container but there are too many people inside?

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Yes. Thank you for talking to us. Let me give you a sense of one of

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the issues that the authorities might face. Any Afghans have got

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shacks, basically restaurants that they have set up here impromptu, and

:14:24.:14:31.

maybe 20 or 30 say they are staying. The outside edge, the police seem to

:14:32.:14:34.

have successfully cleared this morning. Thank you.

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Josie Naughton is co-founder of Help Refugees and has just

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They have been helping to build and re-home refugees.

:14:44.:14:47.

Hassan Akkad is a Syrian refugee who spent time in The Jungle last

:14:48.:14:50.

August to October and is now claiming asylum in the UK.

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Welcome. Do you understand why migrants do not want to move to

:14:56.:15:02.

containers with electricity and light? The majority of refugees in

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The Jungle have refused to move because they say it is not fit for

:15:07.:15:11.

them to stay in. They are seeking asylum. Refugees can move into

:15:12.:15:14.

containers if they have applied for asylum in France, which can take

:15:15.:15:18.

around a year to happen. A lot of them have refused to move into the

:15:19.:15:22.

containers, knowing that they will spend more than a year living in a

:15:23.:15:26.

container with 12 other people. Off and they have got family in the UK

:15:27.:15:31.

that they want to. The media is misrepresenting the situation

:15:32.:15:37.

slightly. The 1500 refugees in the area that they want to bulldozers

:15:38.:15:40.

are not all being offered to move into the containers. There are two

:15:41.:15:44.

separate issues. The containers can only take 50 new people a day at the

:15:45.:15:50.

moment and they were only given a week to move 1500 people. If they

:15:51.:15:53.

did not move, their homes were going to be bulldozed today, we were told.

:15:54.:15:58.

They would effectively be sleeping in the cold because their shelters

:15:59.:16:02.

would have been destroyed. The issue was to move the people as quickly as

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possible. We had to move their shelters because otherwise they

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would be outside. There are children, pregnant women, sick

:16:11.:16:14.

people, the elderly. You got back last night and you were literally

:16:15.:16:22.

moving mobile homes? Tents, shelters, caravans, and the refugees

:16:23.:16:27.

were doing it, too. It was a peaceful atmosphere. People did not

:16:28.:16:31.

want controversy. People just want to be safe and warm and that is the

:16:32.:16:33.

main issue. It is about where they want to claim

:16:34.:16:44.

asylum in the end. You wanted to come to the UK. You had taken this

:16:45.:16:49.

journey from Syria through Greece and Macedonia. Many countries. You

:16:50.:16:53.

got to France and still wanted to get to the UK. Why? Personally I

:16:54.:17:03.

have friends here. I have people to back me up until I can figure out,

:17:04.:17:07.

until I can get my leave to remain and find a job and all that. It is

:17:08.:17:12.

easier for me to integrate in the UK. I speak English. I do not speak

:17:13.:17:20.

a word of friends. A lot of people in the jungle wanted to get here

:17:21.:17:22.

because they have family in the jungle wanted to get here

:17:23.:17:26.

here, some have spoken these, some have children. There is a case going

:17:27.:17:34.

to court, there is a lot of unaccompanied children sleeping in

:17:35.:17:39.

the cold and there is a case for a three children who have parents in

:17:40.:17:42.

the UK to be reunited with their parents and I do not think there are

:17:43.:17:46.

many people who would say that a young child who had the parent in

:17:47.:17:51.

the UK should not be reunited with them. You left Syria because? Sadly

:17:52.:17:58.

it has turned into a words on. Every nation is bombing in Syria. It is

:17:59.:18:03.

ranked as the most dangerous to place to live. You would be

:18:04.:18:10.

hard-pressed to find someone who would not leave their country if

:18:11.:18:11.

they were risking death. Thank you. The NHS says it will introduce a

:18:12.:18:28.

sugar tax. One campaigner will tell us why it is an important step.

:18:29.:18:35.

A petition demanding the businessman turned politician

:18:36.:18:38.

Donald Trump be banned from entering the UK will be debated

:18:39.:18:40.

We'll be talking to a Trump supporter from Alabama.

:18:41.:18:43.

There have been calls for a full investigation into potential

:18:44.:18:47.

match-fixing at major tennis tournaments, including Wimbledon,

:18:48.:18:50.

following a joint investigation by BBC News and BuzzFeed News.

:18:51.:18:54.

David Cameron says thousands of Muslim women who can't speak

:18:55.:18:56.

The ?20 million-scheme is part of a drive to create a more cohesive

:18:57.:19:02.

In many cases it is no fault of their own,

:19:03.:19:08.

it is because they have been put into a situation where they have not

:19:09.:19:11.

been encouraged to integrate, not learn the language.

:19:12.:19:13.

That is not acceptable in this country and these proposals

:19:14.:19:16.

Union leaders at tapped as still have been called into a meeting

:19:17.:19:30.

where it is expected they will be told 700 and double act -- 750 jobs

:19:31.:19:35.

will be cut. Oil prices have continued to fall,

:19:36.:19:38.

following the lifting Brent crude dropped below $28

:19:39.:19:40.

a barrel for the first time since 2003, before

:19:41.:19:44.

recovering slightly. The Alzheimer's Society says

:19:45.:19:51.

hospitals in England play "Russian roulette" with the care

:19:52.:19:53.

of dementia patients. The charity says patients are more

:19:54.:19:54.

likely to have falls in some hospitals, and too many

:19:55.:19:57.

are being discharged at night. Let's catch up with

:19:58.:20:01.

the sport now with Ore. Here are the sporting headlines

:20:02.:20:05.

for you this morning. Reports of suspected widespread

:20:06.:20:09.

match-fixing at the top of tennis have been revealed by the BBC

:20:10.:20:13.

and news agency BuzzFeed, alleging that over the last decade,

:20:14.:20:17.

16 players ranked in the world's top 50 have been repeatedly flagged

:20:18.:20:20.

to the Tennis Integrity Unit over World tennis have rejected claims

:20:21.:20:23.

evidence of match-fixing In the Australian Open,

:20:24.:20:28.

21-year-old Kyle Edmund has been knocked out,

:20:29.:20:32.

after struggling with a cramp He lost in five sets to world

:20:33.:20:34.

number 81 Damir Dzumhur. Heather Watson is aiming to reach

:20:35.:20:43.

the second round in Melbourne for only the second time

:20:44.:20:46.

in her career and she took the first set of her opening match

:20:47.:20:49.

against Hungary's Timea Babos She is in the deciding set at the

:20:50.:21:04.

moment. Rodney Sullivan has equalled Stephen Hendry's record of six

:21:05.:21:10.

Masters titles. It was his first tournament after taking an

:21:11.:21:18.

eight-month break. He won 10-1. Manchester United beat Liverpool 1-0

:21:19.:21:23.

at Anfield. Wayne Rooney scored the only goal of the game. Louis van

:21:24.:21:28.

Gaal's side moved up to fifth in the Premier League. He was rather happy

:21:29.:21:37.

about it. And still thinks they can win the Premier League.

:21:38.:21:44.

A petition demanding the American tycoon-turned-politician

:21:45.:21:48.

Donald Trump be banned from entering the UK

:21:49.:21:50.

It's been signed by more than half a million people,

:21:51.:21:54.

following his call for Muslims to be temporarily banned

:21:55.:21:56.

Joining us from Alabama is Trump supporter and Republican

:21:57.:21:59.

Can I be due some comments from people watching? Someone says, Trump

:22:00.:22:12.

has managed to offend everyone, he is misogynistic, anti-Muslim, he

:22:13.:22:16.

makes fun of disabled people, he is a billionaire, if he was not so rich

:22:17.:22:20.

he would be another redneck lounging on his couch. That is quite a change

:22:21.:22:26.

from what everyone used to think of him. Is the proposal over there

:22:27.:22:32.

temporary like his proposal is temporary or permanent? That is a

:22:33.:22:37.

really good question. I do not know the answer. I will find out. You

:22:38.:22:42.

obviously do not think much of this. No. He is on target to win. People

:22:43.:22:49.

over here seeing here is running away with this election. Come on.

:22:50.:22:56.

There is a small but yes significant group of the electorate who really

:22:57.:23:00.

likes him and his outrageous comments but he is not running away

:23:01.:23:04.

with it. He has drawn larger crowds than any of them. 30 something

:23:05.:23:09.

percent of expected Republicans is not small. Keith says I have no time

:23:10.:23:16.

for Donald Trump or his views but to ban someone because you disagree

:23:17.:23:22.

with their viewpoint is not the way forward. That is more your style?

:23:23.:23:28.

Absolutely. They want to ban him for banning so it does not make sense.

:23:29.:23:33.

He is going to end up president of the US and I assume England does

:23:34.:23:37.

business with leaders around the world they do not like so it does

:23:38.:23:42.

not make sense to me. Do you understand how his policy would work

:23:43.:23:47.

in practice? It is about making America great again. It is a general

:23:48.:23:52.

statement that we have to worry about America and getting America

:23:53.:23:56.

back contract and that is why it is resonating well with Americans

:23:57.:24:00.

because the economy is not great and has not been for a long time and he

:24:01.:24:06.

is talking about taking care of America and our interests first. I

:24:07.:24:09.

do not think anybody believes he is not willing to help the world, he

:24:10.:24:13.

just wants to get America back on track. Why would banning Muslims get

:24:14.:24:20.

America by contract? Because they are allowing large numbers of

:24:21.:24:27.

immigrants and terrorism is on the rise. He is talking about pausing

:24:28.:24:32.

until we can understand exactly why these people want to blow as up and

:24:33.:24:38.

update our security measures for screening incoming immigrants and

:24:39.:24:46.

refugees. He is talking about taking a pause and trying to figure out

:24:47.:24:49.

what is going on and coming up with a better system. You probably know

:24:50.:24:55.

that MPs here debate this because this petition has reached half the

:24:56.:25:00.

million or whatever. There is no fog at the end and the British

:25:01.:25:04.

government has said of course they will not ban him. That is great and

:25:05.:25:09.

I am glad to see Donald Trump is getting so much attention in your

:25:10.:25:16.

parliament. It sounds like they are real interested in Donald Trump

:25:17.:25:19.

because they are spending a lot of time on him. Thank you. That was a

:25:20.:25:23.

Donald Trump supporter. "If you were going to create

:25:24.:25:28.

a perfect sport for match fixing, That's what the man who created

:25:29.:25:31.

the first anti-corruption organisation in tennis

:25:32.:25:34.

told us an hour ago. Over the last decade 16 players

:25:35.:25:36.

who have ranked in the top 50 have been repeatedly flagged to a body

:25:37.:25:39.

called the Tennis Integrity Unit over suspicions they've

:25:40.:25:42.

thrown matches. But that body, set up by the world

:25:43.:25:45.

tennis authorities to combat match fixing, is accused

:25:46.:25:49.

of doing very little. "They sat on it and from up on high,

:25:50.:25:56.

they don't want it out there," is what one betting industry

:25:57.:25:59.

source told the BBC. So all of the players,

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including winners of Grand Slam titles, were allowed

:26:03.:26:04.

to continue competing. This morning the Tennis Integrity

:26:05.:26:05.

Unit said it absolutely rejected any suggestion that evidence of match

:26:06.:26:09.

fixing has been suppressed for any reason, saying, "No player

:26:10.:26:11.

or official is immune from investigation, regardless

:26:12.:26:13.

of their status or position Investigations follow

:26:14.:26:15.

where evidence leads." Dom Inglot is a doubles specialist,

:26:16.:26:23.

he's the British Doubles Number 2 and was part of the British Davis

:26:24.:26:26.

Cup winning team this year when he played in some

:26:27.:26:29.

of the earlier rounds but not the Davis Cup Final and reached

:26:30.:26:36.

the US Open doubles semi final. He's played with Andy

:26:37.:26:39.

and Jamie Murray. From Melbourne, where

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the Australian Open is underway, he told me how players are reacting

:26:41.:26:42.

to news of these match fixing In terms of how many people

:26:43.:26:51.

supposedly are involved, that is what some players are worried about,

:26:52.:26:58.

but we also understand these are maybe flagged up matches, not

:26:59.:27:04.

guaranteed to be fixed matches. Have you ever watched a game where uses

:27:05.:27:12.

Becky to something was up? Not from a match fixing perspective. You do

:27:13.:27:16.

see instances with players being maybe a little bit injured or

:27:17.:27:20.

fatigued after playing long singles matches or doubles matches and they

:27:21.:27:26.

are drained and cannot play at their highest level, they are not used to

:27:27.:27:31.

it because of physical difficulties and you understand why they might be

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subpar but not where somebody is playing fantastic and all of a

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sudden not and changing their game. I have never seen anything like

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that. I do not know many people that have. The other players are not

:27:48.:27:53.

aware of it. You have to be careful not to take gossip and rumour too

:27:54.:27:59.

seriously because one wants to see certain things but where there is

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truth I have never seen anything like it. Have you ever been

:28:04.:28:10.

approached to fix a match? I have not been approached to fix a match.

:28:11.:28:15.

No one that I know that I have spoken to personally has ever been.

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It would be easy to contacting as players from any level of the game

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because you all have Twitter accounts, Facebook accounts, you are

:28:26.:28:32.

an -- if you are an unscrupulous gambler it would be easy to approach

:28:33.:28:39.

a player. I definitely could always get someone to approach someone on

:28:40.:28:44.

Facebook. We have people Twitter trolling or Facebook trolling but

:28:45.:28:48.

everybody knows we have to report these people because any incidents

:28:49.:28:53.

of somebody contacting you regarding any sort of betting past or future

:28:54.:28:58.

you have to report to make sure you are covering yourself as well.

:28:59.:29:05.

Everyone knows that. Contacting players is not that hard but every

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player especially at this level does not want to ruin their career. These

:29:13.:29:19.

documents show there are about eight players who have been flagged up

:29:20.:29:23.

over the last decades who are involved in the Australian Open over

:29:24.:29:27.

the next few days and weeks. Novak Djokovic has said there is no real

:29:28.:29:32.

proof or evidence yet of any active players being involved in a max --

:29:33.:29:44.

match fixing. You may be in a match that perhaps is has some suspicious

:29:45.:29:47.

betting placed on it and that match has been flagged. You may have been

:29:48.:29:52.

part of that match but it does not mean you are match fixing. It means

:29:53.:29:57.

they have decided to look into your match and they might decide there

:29:58.:30:03.

was no untoward activity. You have to be very careful. That certain

:30:04.:30:12.

investigations does not mean anybody has done anything untoward. There

:30:13.:30:15.

have been cases where maybe some things have been strange in terms of

:30:16.:30:19.

betting but I am sure the tennis integrity unit not banning people

:30:20.:30:25.

means they have found there is not anything happening or not enough

:30:26.:30:31.

evidence. Novak Djokovic confirmed that members of his team in 2000

:30:32.:30:35.

were approached to throw a game in Russia. He said of course we

:30:36.:30:41.

rejected it straightaway. Do you worry about the trust of people who

:30:42.:30:42.

love to watch tennis? Absolutely. This sport is based on

:30:43.:30:54.

everybody doing their best and doing what they can to win. Everybody in

:30:55.:31:01.

the locker room, all of us, we care massively that the public believe

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that this is a true sport and the way it should be. We care very much

:31:05.:31:09.

about that. With regards to what Novak Djokovic said, I have heard of

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things like that happening, that is why the TIU was set up, off the back

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of that story, and I have not heard of anything happening since then.

:31:26.:31:29.

Dom Inglot, the British doubles player.

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Financial markets have fallen sharply this morning,

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after the cost of crude oil fell below $30 a barrel,

:31:36.:31:38.

hitting its lowest levels since April 2004.

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Is it not, her nasal Hirst? Actually it has fallen below $28 a barrel,

:31:43.:31:51.

which are key psychological barriers. But 18 months ago oil was

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around $120 a barrel and 80 months ago people thought we were going to

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run out. The problem now is we don't have storage facilities around the

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world to store it. The world has 5 billion barrels of oil basically in

:32:09.:32:12.

storage. That is enough if every oil well in the world stops producing

:32:13.:32:21.

for six months of oil. The big news was off the back of Iran, and we

:32:22.:32:26.

knew this was coming. The sanctions have been lifted, meaning Iran can

:32:27.:32:30.

start putting its oil into the market, which is good for them but

:32:31.:32:33.

not necessarily good for prices in the sense that it will continue

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suppressing the price of oil. At the moment, the world produces a million

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barrels more than what we are using. Iran will add half a million,

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500,000 barrels to that date. I am talking about the daily rate. $28

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per barrel. We have people out there, big institutions, betting

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that we will see $20 per barrel. Why not pull back on producing it if

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they want to get the price up? Pack would have done that, the Saudis

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would have done that. -- Opec would have done that. When Iran went

:33:17.:33:20.

off-line and the sanctions were imposed, the Saudis grabbed the

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Iranian market share, so they could sell oil to more places around the

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world. If they cut production, they will lose some of that market share,

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so they are not prepared to do that at the moment. And some suggest the

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Saudis are trying to play a price game with the Americans. And it has

:33:42.:33:47.

been a success for the Americans, producing their own energy and oil

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and gas. The Saudis are trying also to bring the prices down. Some would

:33:53.:33:59.

say this. Not me! They are trying to bring the prices down to knock the

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American shale gas producers out of business. It will get so low it is

:34:04.:34:08.

not worth doing, basically. It is a good story for consumers. Hurray.

:34:09.:34:12.

Petrol prices are cheaper. Heating is cheaper if you are using oil for

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heating. It is all good news for the consumer. What is not good news is

:34:20.:34:25.

the reason oil is low. The reason is that we are seeing the global

:34:26.:34:29.

economy slowing down once again. The likes of China, the emerging

:34:30.:34:33.

economies, Brazil. They are using less. They are slowing so they do

:34:34.:34:37.

not need as much and they are using less. It is a supply and demand

:34:38.:34:42.

issue. It is a global slowing economy that is part of this

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picture. OK. That is fine. The more enthusiast dig you get, the closer

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you get to me and it is slightly unnerving! Until I knock you off the

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show! Coming up next! Take it away! Now we all saw the pictures

:34:57.:35:05.

of Tim Peake last week successfully completing his space walk

:35:06.:35:08.

from the International Space But space missions don't

:35:09.:35:10.

don't always go to plan. Take this attempt by the Californian

:35:11.:35:16.

company SpaceX to land its supposedly reusable

:35:17.:35:19.

rocket Falcon 9. It blasted off yesterday

:35:20.:35:20.

and delivered a satellite into orbit But returning to Earth didn't go

:35:21.:35:23.

quite as well. Oh, dear. That is not good. How much

:35:24.:35:26.

kit is that? It just crumples. These pictures are from SpaceX owner

:35:27.:35:58.

Elon Musk, the founder of PayPal. He says one of the rocket's four

:35:59.:36:01.

legs didn't latch on the landing pad, which caused it

:36:02.:36:04.

to topple over and explode. He didn't say how much that would

:36:05.:36:13.

have cost him. Thank you for your many comments about Donald Trump and

:36:14.:36:16.

the fact that MPs are going to be debating that petition that calls

:36:17.:36:19.

for him to be banned from entering Britain hollering his comments that

:36:20.:36:28.

suggested that he would ban Muslim is going to the United States if he

:36:29.:36:32.

wins the presidential campaign. Donald Trump makes a good point.

:36:33.:36:39.

People follow him a large lenders and they should not be ignored. This

:36:40.:36:44.

one, Donald Trump is talking sense. And this one, he should never be

:36:45.:36:47.

allowed into the UK because he is bigoted and evil. And this one, do

:36:48.:36:53.

not ban Donald Trump. We have freedom of speech so let him talk

:36:54.:36:56.

from Hyde Park Corner. We allow clerics to preach hate and violence.

:36:57.:37:01.

And this one, he has his right to freedom of speech and so do those

:37:02.:37:02.

that disagree with him. The NHS is planning

:37:03.:37:08.

to introduce its own sugar tax in hospitals and health centres

:37:09.:37:11.

in England to help tackle Hospitals will start charging more

:37:12.:37:13.

for sugary drinks and snacks sold With me now in the studio

:37:14.:37:25.

is Kawther Hashem, a nutritionist and researcher from the campaign

:37:26.:37:33.

group Action On Sugar. I think it is a great idea. How can

:37:34.:37:42.

hospitals give easy access to these products? It is outrageous that they

:37:43.:37:46.

are priced similar to water. Water should be more readily available and

:37:47.:37:49.

accessible to everyone in the hospital and not priced similarly to

:37:50.:37:54.

sugary drinks. It seems amazing that they have not done it before.

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Exactly. How bad is the obesity problem and how much do sugary

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drinks and snacks contribute, which are sold in hospital vending

:38:05.:38:14.

machines? 60% of the UK population is overweight or obese and type 2

:38:15.:38:17.

diabetes costs the NHS staggering amounts and could potentially

:38:18.:38:19.

bankrupt the NHS. Sugary drinks contribute to the risk of getting

:38:20.:38:24.

type 2 diabetes. It is very easy to drink these drinks and get a whole

:38:25.:38:30.

meal, but he would not be able to eat as many oranges, or actual food

:38:31.:38:34.

with that sugar content, so it does not give you that filling effect of

:38:35.:38:45.

other foods. Reducing people, their consumption, is doable. It is

:38:46.:38:49.

calories that we can take in very easily and it contributes to the

:38:50.:38:54.

overweight and obesity crisis. Maybe hospitals should not sell sugary

:38:55.:39:00.

drink that all. That is my opinion. We are in a situation where the NHS

:39:01.:39:06.

feels that it has to raise revenue. The reason why they have access to

:39:07.:39:11.

these products and they sell them is because it raises some revenue for

:39:12.:39:15.

hospitals. It could potentially produce more revenue if they can tax

:39:16.:39:19.

it, but that is not an idea we want to go behind. We want to discourage

:39:20.:39:23.

people from drinking too much of these products. There is evidence of

:39:24.:39:29.

a link between increasing the price and a drop in consumption.

:39:30.:39:34.

Absolutely. We have seen it in Mexico. We have seen it on a small

:39:35.:39:38.

scale modelling studies and it will have an effect of discouraging

:39:39.:39:42.

people. If there is a wide price differentiation between water and

:39:43.:39:46.

those types of drinks or even confectionery and better options

:39:47.:39:49.

like the banana, they will go for the option that is healthier

:39:50.:39:54.

perhaps. Some people find it really annoying that they are forced to pay

:39:55.:40:07.

more for something that they choose to pay for and eat. It is up to

:40:08.:40:10.

them. They know it has got sugar in it and they still make that choice

:40:11.:40:13.

to buy it. That is fair enough but in a hospital environment we need to

:40:14.:40:16.

think twice. Why are people in hospital and what are they eating

:40:17.:40:18.

and drinking that contributes to the bad health? We know that our diets

:40:19.:40:21.

are contributing more to bad health than alcohol and smoking so we have

:40:22.:40:24.

to consider the effects of that on our health and reduce how much we

:40:25.:40:31.

are having. The boss of the NHS has suggested to the Guardian that this

:40:32.:40:35.

is what is going to happen to hospitals and health centres in

:40:36.:40:39.

England. Where does this leave the Government? We are expecting a big

:40:40.:40:45.

report from them soon, any moment now, and they are apparently going

:40:46.:40:48.

to make a decision on whether to introduce a sugar tax across the

:40:49.:40:53.

board. Where do you think that leaves the Government now? I think

:40:54.:40:59.

it will put them in a situation where it will be difficult for them

:41:00.:41:03.

to not seriously consider a sugary drinks tax. Some local authorities

:41:04.:41:06.

have prevented it. In Brighton, Jamie Oliver is putting it in their

:41:07.:41:10.

restaurants and other restaurants have done the same. Now the NHS

:41:11.:41:14.

wants to do the same, so it puts them in a situation where you have

:41:15.:41:19.

got to consider it. We should try it in the UK and see what effect it

:41:20.:41:24.

will have. What do you say to the manufacturers and supermarkets who

:41:25.:41:29.

say that we are very gradually... Because you cannot do it quickly

:41:30.:41:34.

because consumers will be put off. We are gradually reducing the sugar

:41:35.:41:36.

content and coming up with alternatives but it takes time so

:41:37.:41:41.

bear with us, campaign groups and lobbyists. That is fine but at the

:41:42.:41:45.

moment we have a growing crisis and we need solutions that are

:41:46.:41:48.

relatively quick and that could perhaps work. We could later on

:41:49.:41:53.

consider taking away the tax because we have better options in

:41:54.:41:57.

supermarkets but at the moment we need something quicker that will

:41:58.:42:00.

reduce consumption of those products. Thank you. The sugar

:42:01.:42:04.

comment is just coming up on my email. No, it will take too long.

:42:05.:42:10.

Why is the NHS selling such rubbish in the first place? Richard had the

:42:11.:42:19.

mail. -- Richard had emailed. But you have already answered that. It

:42:20.:42:25.

is the revenue. Thank you for coming on the programme. We heard from The

:42:26.:42:28.

Alzheimer's Society earlier who said that there is evidence that people

:42:29.:42:31.

with dementia in England are having to put up with shoddy hospital care.

:42:32.:42:35.

Patients are more likely to fall over in some hospitals and many are

:42:36.:42:39.

being discharged at night which can be really distressing and

:42:40.:42:42.

disorientating. Thank you for those of you that have got in touch to

:42:43.:42:46.

share your experiences. Siobhan says her mother has dementia and was in

:42:47.:42:50.

Barnet hospital for a month. To get the care she needed we felt

:42:51.:43:01.

having someone familiar therefore most of the time, communicating with

:43:02.:43:05.

staff, finding out what the doctors were saying in the morning when they

:43:06.:43:08.

do their rounds, helping her eat and drink, was essential. We even helped

:43:09.:43:10.

with washing and the staff did not mind. I think they thought we were

:43:11.:43:13.

doing the right thing for our mother. That is off the back of a

:43:14.:43:16.

campaign for some people to be allowed to stay with the dementia

:43:17.:43:20.

patients in hospital, 24/7 effectively. Linda's mother went

:43:21.:43:24.

into hospital following a fall at her care home. The Sinn needed

:43:25.:43:27.

plastic surgery and the operation was delayed several times. In

:43:28.:43:33.

hospital, she had water infections because of dehydration and she got C

:43:34.:43:37.

difficile. She suffered confusion and has vascular dementia. She fell

:43:38.:43:42.

out of bed twice and broke her hip. It was operated on and then it was

:43:43.:43:45.

dislocated by which time she was too ill to be operated on. She died

:43:46.:43:49.

after being in hospital for three months. I am so sorry about your

:43:50.:43:53.

mother. Thank you for getting in touch. Tomorrow on the programme we

:43:54.:43:57.

will hear from a British man captured by cannibals while on

:43:58.:44:02.

holiday in Papua New Guinea. It is

:44:03.:44:03.

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