19/01/2016 Victoria Derbyshire

Hello, it's Tuesday, it's 9.15am, I'm Victoria Derbyshire -

Coming up: How do we protect children from extremism?

The Government's launching a website to help parents and teachers

in England tackle what they call the "spell of twisted ideologies".

Also today: A woman who was duped into a relationship

with an undercover police officer says she was 'personally betrayed'

Here is the former cop she fell in love with. We supported each other

through some very difficult times in our personal lives. It's just very

sad the way and how we fell in love sad the way and how we fell in love

happened to be under these circumstances.

And, for the second year running NO black actors have been nominated

for any of the main Oscars, and director Spike Lee says

he'll boycott the ceremony, describing it as "lily white".

Jada Pinkett Smith is doing the same.

Maybe it is time that we pulled back our resources and put them back into

our communities, into our programmes.

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or our website, bbc.co.uk/victoria. First, how can we protect

children from the dangers That's a question that's been

exercising the minds of many people with responsibility for our schools

since the first reports began emerging of teenagers one day

failing to turn up at school, Today, the Education Secretary Nicky

Morgan is launching a website as part of the effort to try

and prevent pupils from, as Government sources are putting

it, 'falling under the spell The website talks about different

forms of extremism, we've also seen But it's anything which means that

young, bright children who are doing well at school

perhaps suddenly change in their behaviour, they adopt

different beliefs And that's why the website is called

Educate Against Hate. The Educate Against Hate website

is part of a package of measures that also includes more

investigations into unregistered, illegal schools and a consultation

on registering children who go It will include information

on the warning signs of danger, how parents should talk

to children about extremism, and steps concerned

parents can take. Nicky Morgan will be

at Bethnal Green Academy in East London to launch the scheme

later this morning - that's the school attended by three

girls who ran away to We can speak now to

Tasnime Akunjee, lawyer for two of the families

of those schoolgirls, Also here are Dal Babu,

a former Metropolitan Police officer who now works with families whose

children have gone to join IS. Jenny Smith, the headteacher

of Frederick Bremer school in East London, who you might know

from Educating The East End, And first our education

reporter Mark Ashdown. None of us can find the website,

does that mean it is a flop already? It is just launching, I have had a

look, it is not exciting but it is functional. It is part of a package

of measures to give parents and teachers a first point of reference

where they have concerns about their children potentially being exposed

to some of these risks. When is it going live?

Fairly soon, I was told today. Give us some specifics, I'm a

parent, worried about my child falling under the spell of twisted

ideologies, what does it tell me to do?

I think it is just a first point of call, the very basics, signs to look

out for, the early signs. Like what?

I'm sure you could tell us more about the girls disappeared, but as

far as I know in the run-up to the disappearance one of them was

skipping classes, missing school, that sort of thing. Things that

on-the-run would not be concerning but altogether the consequences are

bad. Tasnime Akunjee, do the families

know where their daughters are right now? The last we heard, the four

girls were in Raqqa, Syria. That information is only up to date up

until mid-December. Since then there has been no communication due to the

bombing taking out the communication infrastructure there. That is the

unfortunate situation the families find themselves in at the moment.

How are they coping with the fact that their girls are in Syria?

Frankly I don't have the words to describe what they must be going

through. I don't know how they are coping but somehow they are

functioning. What do you think of the idea of the website? I know you

have tried to look for it as well. I had a search and couldn't find it

myself, so there is a fair bit of professionalism in the room and not

being able to find it is a problem, I hope Google will put it higher up

on the list than it currently is. But I don't think the answer is just

on websites. The information that we have about it at the moment, the key

thing omitted from it is community, there is no community engagement

with the functioning of the website. They have spoken to charities like

the NSPCC but they have no specific experience with this particular,

fairly unique problem. I'm being told now the website is live.

Can I just say, this is part of a package of measures as well from the

Government, so not only that but Nicky Morgan is also launching a

consultation, lessons I suppose from what happened in the case of the

girls of your clients, the idea is to look at ways that agencies, local

authorities, the schools, can share information

because at the moment when a child is withdrawn from school it is

patchy in terms of finding out where they have gone, it is difficult to

ascertain what has happened, and it is the realisation that it is not

one single tactic but a package of measures to give a better chance of

putting these things off early. About the lack of information, the

headmaster of that particular school was in front of Parliament recently,

in December, and informed us all that, despite having lost one child

in December to Isis, three children in February, he only found out that

four more children in his own school were wards of court and that

passports were taken away from the BBC News. The idea that there are

lessons to be learned, clearly there were lessons in December, February,

and once again back in June. Let me bring in Jenny Smith, head teacher,

and Dal Babu, former Metropolitan Police officer who works with

families and children who have gone to Syria. What do you think of these

ideas from Nicky Morgan, not just the website but the package of

measures? My personal reaction is we've seen a lot of rhetoric from

the Government and we need to see some substance, and it is difficult

to respond to this package when none of us have seen it. As a lead

professional in the issues in our communities and I would prefer to

see a far more positive approach about engaging our young people more

positively in our communities rather than labelling and stigmatising

young people. What I see in schools is a lot of perception of being

stigmatised, marginalised. What impact does that have on people's?

It certainly makes them far less enthusiastic about engaging. There

is a perception amongst some communities that they are being

unfairly labelled and stigmatised. You are talking about Muslim people?

I'm talking particularly at this moment in time about Muslim people,

particularly Muslim males. There are a host of issues they are contending

with and being unfairly labelled is another bone of contention for them,

making it much harder for us as educators to engage with them more

positively. What I would welcome is a far more integrated approach. I

that, what do you mean, specifically? What I would like to

see is all agencies working together more proactively. We have seen a

huge scaling back in police services, in youth services. One of

the things I'm very aware of is that there is nothing for young people to

do in our communities. One of these safe places for them is in the

Church or the mosque, which actually makes social segregation worse

rather than making more integration. Dal Babu, your insight from working

with families of children who have gone to Syria, where does this fit

in, will it work? I would like to reiterate that we don't know the

details, and it would have been helpful to have more consultation. I

did see the press release and what struck me was the word community

wasn't mentioned. Communities are the key to this. The fact we haven't

had professionals like headteachers, apparently, we haven't seen a wider

awareness. I know it is being launched at Bethnal, there is some

irony in there. I think it is deliberate that they have

irony in there. I think it is that school because people have left

that school to go to Syria. It is ironic in the sense that we have

lost four children from that school. There are other schools are sure

that are doing a fantastic job and it would be helpful to look at what

those individuals are doing. But I don't think the website alone will

help, it is about making sure we have a partnership approach working

with all of the different agencies will stop we have had considerable

reduction in the public sector so some of those individuals working

with vulnerable individuals aren't there. Let's say you are a parent

worried about your 15-year-old son or daughter falling under this spell

as Nicky Morgan puts it. You are not in touch with the police, you are a

law-abiding family, not in touch with social services, there is no

reason to be. As far as you know your child is going to school every

day, because nobody any different. Why would you even log onto the

website? To do what? The first thing is, talk to your kids. That is what

I imagine any parent would do. How is it you come up with these ideas

and what is it with the idea that home you are finding difficult, that

is the first conversation. It is not, let's see what Teresa May has

to say. That is the first problem. The real issue, we have been dealing

with Prevent... This is the Government programme which aims to

these radical young men and women who have become radicalised. It has

been in force for over a decade now without much success. As it rolls on

year-on-year it gathers more and more, not mosque but criticism. We

keep peddling the same old vagueness without substance, and we have to

say, it is time to stop and rethink what we are getting wrong. Jennie,

you have talked about everybody being joined up, you have talked

about getting the community involved. What other solutions are

you suggesting that perhaps the Government hasn't thought of? First

of all, having a debate that is honest. We are missing the elephant

in the room, there is an on the minds of anybody who watches

television. This is something Lord Prescott identified. Sorry to

interrupt, you are confirming now that the two families that you

represent whose daughters are somewhere in Syria, you said they

watched the television news and you think that was partly responsible

for them going to Syria? In terms of bringing the inquest into that

particular area. No-one can avoid the pictures of drowning children,

for example, on television that served to highlight the plight of

Syrian people leaving and the dangers they face. Nobody could fail

to have their hearts talked on the issue. Absolutely, but can you then

imagine a child going to Syria without mentioning to their parents

that they want to help, for example? This is the danger, once you have

someone tuned to an issue of injustice, then where do they go? If

they happen to take that strong emotion, not be to their families

about it, not speak to schools because debate has been shut down...

But most people would, surely, say, can we give to charity, can we... In

some ways, if you look at the children that have gone, and these

are children, 15 years old, they are very naive, they are unaware, and

they get groomed. We seem to have a very, very different view around the

grooming that has occurred in places like Oxford where children were

appallingly abused. Sexually abused, yes. We think that is appalling, we

say social services have failed, the police have failed, local

authorities have a dog, we accept that, but we fail to appreciate how

these children are groomed, vulnerable individuals are groomed.

I have an open mind, if the website deliver something and helps

teachers, police, we need to be positive about the Government doing

that. I don't know if it will do. But the bottom line is, these

children get groomed on the website, and there is a generation, my

generation, who don't have the knowledge and the understanding that

my daughters have. That is a very fair point, isn't it? I think it is

a fair point but it also goes back to the idea that this is a bigger

part of a bigger safeguarding remit and I think by putting this in a

small box of extremist behaviour by a small group of society, it is

actually quite dangerous because a lot of the causes we are seeing that

falls pupils into all sorts of dangerous behaviours linked to

similar courses and, as schools, we need to have a far more flexible

approach to what these issues are, and we need to be trusted to be able

to resolve them. Hitting these things with a blunt hammer will push

pupils further away from us, rather than into us. What I would like is

more time in our curriculum to tackle issues -based politics and

issues affecting average young people, because they don't have the

forums to discuss them and engage with them, which pushes them or to

be peripheries, along with the fact that they don't have said spaces in

the community is any more and school is probably one of the few safe

spaces that they have. It is absolutely critical we are allowed

the flexibility to be able to do that.

Stop segregation in schools by religion, that means also strict

uniform policy is backed by legislation that prohibits religious

symbols and religious attire. According to one viewer. Start

teaching that the UK does not have the right to invade anywhere, says

one other viewer. Thank you very much rejoining us.

If you'd like to access the material that we have been talking about, you

can go to the website. Still to come, we will be talking

with a woman who had the -- who had no idea that she was in a

relationship with an undercover policeman. And we will look at why

the pollsters got the election result so wrong.

The government is launching a new drive to protect children

in English schools from being radicalised.

It includes a new "educate against hate" website,

with information for schools and parents.

China has recorded its weakest economic growth rate in twenty-five

years - confirming the fears of global investors over the country's

slowdown. Its economy grew by 6.9% in 2015, compared with 7.3% a year

earlier. An inquiry into why pollsters failed to predict the

result of last year's general election has blamed unrepresentative

samples. A panel of experts found that the polling companies didn't

survey enough Conservative supporters.

The film director Spike Lee and the actress

Jada Pinkett Smith say they will boycott the Oscars

after no black actors were nominated

The Academy has said it will change the selection process.

And the guitarist and songwriter, Glenn Frey, has died at the age of

67. He co-founded the Eagles in 1971 and co-wrote the group's biggest

hit, Hotel California. Let's catch up with all the tennis at the

australian open and join Ore. Good start to these very and open for

Andy Murray, he has his campaign for 2016 up and running, it is the

tournament he has lost four times in the final, is hoping that it will be

fifth time lucky this time around, he played the German teenager,

Alexander Zverev, he won pretty convincingly. Even better news for

Johanna Konta, she has full of RGB the biggest win of her career,

beating the seven time grand slam champion Venus Williams, in the

first round, eighth seed, probably not the best time of her career but

still, no less a wonderful champion. Huge win for Johanna Konta. Less

good news, Dan Evans and Addie Ashburn LA are both out. We have had

a huge shock as well, in the men's draw, this morning, in the stray Lee

and open, the 2009 champion and 14 time grand slam champion Rafa Nadal

has been knocked out by Fernando Verdasco, fellow Spaniard, in

absolute thriller. -- Aljaz Bedene. More thrilling if Fernando Verdasco

-- more thrilling for Fernando Verdasco. Shrugging his shoulders

and backing away from the tournament that he won in 2009. Andy Murray,

this is one he has said, we will have that at 10am, he has been

speaking in regard into allegations of match fixing in tennis.

How do we try to stop child abuse

What interventions can be made earlier?

Labour are launching a website today which aims to make child abuse

Shadow Home Office Minister Sarah Champion

As are Matthew McVerish, who was sexually abused

by his uncle, a teacher, for a number of years from the age

of 7, and Danielle McKinney, who was raped several times,

in her early teen, she lived in a children's home at that time.

Both of them have waived their right to anonymity to speak with us today.

Sarah let's start with you, what are you trying to achieve here?

It is a grand thing to say but I want to prevent child abuse, I have

got really frustrated that as a society we have accepted that it is

inevitable, that is not true, we get I rate when we see the prosecutions

and whose full and who failed, but why can't we put that same passion

into actively trying to prevent child abuse, giving children the

tools so that they can recognise when they are being manipulated,

giving parents the understanding of the signs they are looking for,

Impala in society, that is what we're to do. -- empowering society.

You have your own experiences, you may have questions about whether

that admirable, laudable ambition is possible, what you say? To prevent

child abuse, some of the things you have said, sounds like focusing on

the children in the aftermath of when the abuse has already happened,

this new campaign will reach out to people who are potential threat to

children, I hope, not just another awareness campaign about abuse

already happening. You are right, that is my frustration, once the

crime has happened everyone says, how awful, but a life has been

damaged, and some lives are irreparably damaged. What it is

about, and the earliest point, for me, I spoke with a lot of survivors

and young people, the education they are getting, the support they are

getting, is inadequate. From the youngest age, as soon as we go to

prime risk all, if you would talk about respect and boundaries, the

NSPCC has a great campaign called Pants, it says what is in your pants

is yours and if any body goes in there without your permission, then

this is what you need to do about it. What you said about letting

young children know what abuse is before it happens is a very good

idea. Yet again, exactly what you have said today, I have heard a

million times, the 15 years, it gets boring. But I do agree that allowing

a child to know what is abuse from the age of two, three, four years

old, upwards, that is a good idea, and a possible step forward. This is

the frustration, we have heard it all before and nothing seems to

change. One of the reasons that that is the resources there are, they go

on the prosecutions. Rather than on education. Having the confidence

that young people can actually make informed choices, but at the moment,

how can they do that, the young people I have spoken with, where are

they getting their advice for relationships? The Internet, a lot

of them are discovering that through online pornography which is

aggressive and has some extreme stuff, or through sending six text

messages, they are talking to each other, researching on the Internet,

to find out what is an acceptable relationship. I have found out that

young people, their acceptance of violence in their relationship has

gone through the roof, that is what they see in online pornography. It

frustrates me, and I'm sure, the two of you, you will have heard

experience, you will have been asked, why did you report it sooner,

and it is because you are a child, how are you meant to know if

somebody close to you is doing this because they love you, that you have

got to keep secret, nobody will believe you. Why are we putting the

responsibility onto a child, we are not giving them the tools to do

something about it. It is not just the responsibility of the child to

disclose, I was abuse throughout my childhood, until I was 13, it

stopped in 1996, I did not make a report until I was 25, 2008, you

have got to look at why the adult population who have been sexually

abused are not coming forward. A lot of the time, I looked at the

campaign being put together, and the findings from the discussions that

you can hold, that is going to influence policy in preventing

violence against women and girls. If you look at the talks, violence

against women and girls is perpetrated by men, so if the

government, if the opposition wanted to invest resources in doubling the

emotional psychological services available to men and boys, then we

would see a reduction in violence against women and men. In the UK, a

lot of people approach me, asking me where to find help, and also where

you can find emotional and psychological report. If you had

been a woman or gay, I could have found free services, as an adult

man, there is a lack of where we go. As a result of that, suicide is the

biggest cause of death for men between 25 and 40. Why are we not

investing in that? People who are perpetrating this violence? They do

not have that help. Every child is different. Every child needs therapy

and psychological help specific to their need. I know that you feel

passionately about that but that is after summary has been abused. What

they are trying to do is somehow prevent it happening. In the first

place. Thinking back to when you were young, you said, your abuse

began at the age of seven years old, that is unbelievable. Your

experience was different, you were in a children's home. It was mostly

outside of the home. I can say how it feels, because even though I have

been quite blase with my story, there is loads of little details,

when I was seven, I went to the next neighbour, to ask for a ball from

the garden, he put his hand on my back, and he went down, and he said,

you do not have any knickers on... I did, but he was an obvious

paedophile, I did not tell my mother for a whole year, why not? I ran

away, but I did not think I was going to be believed. I did not how

to articulate it, I was too embarrassed. I know the feelings.

That is a scary place to be. This is not a campaign that is saying it is

the child's responsibility to report, what I am saying is that a

child needs to know about boundaries and limitations, boys and girls, to

try to help them identify what is going wrong and when something is

going wrong but also to know how to deal with people in the future. What

I want to do is get child abuse out of the shadows, because it is a

parents responsibility, it is society's responsibility, if they

see something about which they are unsure, a bit odd, if you CH I'll in

an inappropriate situation with an adult, if you know a child, and

their character has changed suddenly, you have a responsibility

to do something about that, on the website there are signs to spot

whether a child is being groomed or abused, subjected to online abuse.

You know that most older and are abused by family members, or

certainly, people within their circle of trust. Headteacher, next

door neighbour. Whatever it may be. Those are the adults with

responsibility around that child. I will be interested to hear if they

tried to report it to adults and what the response was. The survivors

I spoke with, they tried and tried and tried but adults did not want to

know. You were much older when you decided... Talking about the quality

of silence, why is it people do not speak about this. I was in a

catholic high school in the west of Scotland, 20 years ago, that is

quite a conservative religious environment, at that time a lot of

homophobia, I was terrified of speaking about this publicly in case

my friends found out I had had sexual contact with someone of the

same six. The problem is, many countries I have worked in, the

areas where they work against LGBTQIA causes, it is problematic.

This is promoting healthy public discussion with difficult sexual

matters. I commend them for it. Thank you for coming onto the

programme, thank you very much. A woman whose partner was in fact an

undercover cop talks to us live about the shock of finding out the

truth Why did the pollsters get it so wrong in the last election,

consistently predicting a virtual dead heat between labour and the

Conservatives, when the Conservatives won with a twelve seat

majority? It meant almost everyone thought there was going to be some

kind of Coalition Government. I think there are

four possibilities. The first is the exit poll is right

and all the polls that came out in the last 24 hours -

ours is one of 11 - all 11 should consider

neck and neck. What exactly is a coalition

and a hung parliament? I'm quite new to politics,

so if it could be explained, Basically a hung parliament

is as the idea suggests, it's kind of hanging

there without anyone actually in charge because no one has

an overall majority. So if you have an election where no

one party has got half of the House of Commons,

that is a hung parliament. You have to look around

for some sort of deal, so someone can cobble together half

of the MPs so you can get So a coalition tends to be

where more than one party agrees with another party to work together,

so they can have a majority So a hung parliament is,

no-one's in charge. Coalition is, you've got a deal

so someone is in charge. So that kind of involves two

parties, it could involve more And that is what is most fascinating

about this election, I think most people reckon we're

heading down hung parliament country, which means there will have

to be some sort of deal, We've never really been in this

sort of situation before and the potential for complete

uncertainty is immense. So although we are having

an election, we're very interested in that, in a funny sort of way,

the most interesting time might actually be the days

and weeks after the election. Second possibility, the exit poll

is wrong and the other Third possibility, something

happened today, YouGov re-questioned 6000 people today

and we could find no sign of any net movement

in any direction. So I think we can rule out

and on the day shift. The difficulty is, all the parties

are deeply, deeply reluctant to draw firm redlines in the sand

because they know they're going to have two strikes some

bargains, but they don't know who they are going to have two

strike bargains with. So they don't want to lock

themselves into a room The striking thing yesterday

with Nick Clegg, when we had his manifesto, he put on the front

page his key five priorities. We were all asking

him, your redlines? And again and again he would say,

no, no, we're not in the business of red lines and they want

to leave their options open. Fourth possibility, the truth

is somewhere in the middle. The parties go into election saying

we may well be in coalition with another party and this

will affect what we promise. You've got to accept

the compromises and nature of it because no one

is going to win Voters aren't there and our

politicians certainly aren't there. Saying they were going

for an all-out win and every single poll suggest it's going

to be a hung parliament. First with our exit poll,

which I cannot reveal Remember this is an exit poll,

very carefully calculated, But here it is, 10pm,

and we are saying the Conservatives And here are the figures

which we have. Up nine since the last

election in 2010. Ed Miliband for Labour,

77 behind him, 239. We are joined by the former leader

of the Liberal Democrats, the man who ran Nick Clegg's

campaign in the 2015 election, If this exit poll is

anywhere near right, this is beyond your

worst nightmares? If this exit poll is right, Andrew,

I will publicly eat my hat Yes, you can get the hat providing

it is made of marzipan. What you have seen in the last 24

hours, I think there is a YouGov poll out now which gives us not ten

seats, not 20 seats, So one or other of these two polls,

either the exit poll And I'll bet you my hat

eaten on your programme, We saw our political guru

Norman Smith in that piece, let's talk to him

now in Westminster. Go on, why did they get it so wrong?

How embarrassing, how humiliating, completely, totally, utterly wrong.

I should resign, I'm sorry! The only thing I could stay in my defence is

everyone else also got it wrong! One of the heads of the polling

companies afterwards, at 10pm, when the results came in, tweeted just

two words, which were oh... Because he knew it was a catastrophe for the

polling companies. So why did they get it so wrong? Kind of obviously,

they spoke to the wrong people. The people they sampled to get their

views on were far too many young Labour leaning voters, not nearly

enough older Conservative inclined voters. Why? Because older voters

are harder to reach. Many of them are not Internet savvy so they do

not respond to online polling, many of them were more inclined to put

the phone down for telephone polling. Apparently it was harder to

get Conservative voters to answer the door if you knocked on the door,

you would have to go two or three times, so it was harder to reach

Conservative voters. Also the BCB factor, business people,

professionals, busy lives just didn't have time to take part in the

polls, -- the busy bee factor, and they were perhaps more likely to

vote Conservative. Also, the herding factor, the polling companies by and

large acted like sheep, stuck together because they did not want

to go out on a limb, so they were all looking at over their shoulders

to see what the other companies were doing and all came up with broadly

the same result. But undeniably the major factor was not listening and

polling enough older people. That was pretty much at knowledge this

morning by Joe Twyman of the polling organisation you go.

We are looking to, over the coming weeks, months and years, to recruit

more people in a more targeted manner, so more young people who are

disengaged politics, for instance, and more older people. We do have

them on the panel but need to work harder to make sure they are

represented sufficiently in our surveys because it is clear they

weren't at the election. This is not just a dry academic

analysis, this matters hugely because there is a view that,

because the polls were predicting a hung parliament, that actually may

have helped the Conservatives because you remember one of the key

strategies, one of the key lines of their attack in the election was the

suggestion that Ed Miliband would be in hock to Alex Salmond. Do you

remember this post? Ed Miliband in the pocket of Alex Salmond, the

thinking there would be a hung parliament so Ed Miliband would be

looking around for someone to do a deal with, and it would be Alex

Salmond said they would be in hock to the SNP. Labour are clear it

damaged them. The former Labour Camelon Minister Ben Brad Sewell put

out a Tweet this morning -- Ben Bradshaw saying that the

commentators, people like me, are too relaxed with the pollsters'

failure, which affected the result. The election dominated I hung

parliament talk instead of likely Tory majority, in other words there

are Labour folk who believe the way the pollsters reported the election

may have affected the outcome. I'm sitting here with Norman Lamb Armour

former Lib Dem Minister. Do you buy the argument that this consensus

amongst pollsters that it would be a hung parliament may have shaped the

result? Yes, completely. First of all, I'm self-aware enough to know

that we were going to get a hit as a result of being in coalition, but I

have absolutely no doubt that in our seats that the Tories were

targeting, with an incredible investment, they took advantage of a

loophole in the rules about limits on local election spending because

they didn't mention their local candidate they just focused on the

national message, and that was the key message for them. It was a

combination of enormous investment, constant mailshots to our voters

saying, don't risk Ed Miliband being in Government, together with polls

showing it would be a hung parliament, which reinforced their

message that there was a risk of this happening and people, out of

fear, chose to vote Conservative because they thought it would take

the threat away. Are we in danger of now exaggerating that? It might have

been a factor but did it actually result in Mr Cameron winning? I

think it certainly was a significant factor. I could feel it in my own

constituency, that last week there was a really significant shift of

opinion. I know there was the conclusion that this overall wasn't

a big factor that people in my constituency, I know, were really

fearful in that final week of the consequences of electing Ed Miliband

looked over by Nicola Sturgeon, and so with that fear in their minds

many of them went out and voted Conservative, which resulted in far

more losses than I think we would otherwise have suffered. One other

thing which, from my point of view, a journalistic point of view, is

that we journalists focused so much of our questions on the hung

parliament idea, and I wonder whether we did a disservice to

voters insofar as it meant we didn't really focus on the policies, what

it would mean, for example, to have a Conservative majority Government

because we were always asking about a hung parliament. Guilty as

charged. It was the only game in town, the only thing the comment

area was talking about. At the voters focused a bit more on the

threat to the health service, the fact of the ?12 billion of welfare

cuts and so on, then they may have thought in a more balanced way about

the consequences of electing a majority Conservative Government. As

it was, people, I think, thought it was as close to the status quo as

they could get to and didn't want to take a big risk. OK, thank you very

much indeed. All I think we can say in our defence is, we won't be

fooled again. I think next time we journalists are going to be much

more cautious about polls, we will take them all with a pinch of salt.

And, you know, there may be an argument that maybe polls have had

their day, maybe they are past their sell by date and maybe people when

they are questioned by pollsters just become fly to opinion polls and

look to send a message about giving the Government a kicking, looking

for a particular headline, rather than being honest about what they

will do when they go in the polling booth.

I will never believe a political opinion poll ever again as a result

of what happened, I'm serious! Thank you, Norman and Norman.

The Oscars are going to review their membership criteria after no black

actors or actresses were nominated for the second year running in any

of the main categories. Spike Lee and Jada Pinkett Smith

say they'll boycott Maybe it is time that we pull back

of a re-sources and put them back into our communities, into our

programmes, and we make programmes for ourselves that acknowledge us in

ways that we see fit that are just as good as the so-called mainstream

ones. This is what you think about the

boycott and the fact there were no black actors nominated. Janet,

surely the Oscar-nominated are chosen on merit, not colour?

Matt on Facebook says, I thought Oscars were handed out for a good

film, not just because the actors or directors were not white.

Sour grapes from the black actors boycotting the ceremony this year,

do they want a separate category for non-white actors?

Andrea says, the music industry has separate awards for black musicians

come if that isn't discrimination I don't know what is.

Christopher, why should someone be nominated for the colour of their

skin? That is the feeling is so far from

you. Any more comments, do send them in.

Later in the programme we'll bring you an interview with the director

We will get his view on the boycott bike Spike Lee and Jaeger Pinkett

Smith. Time for the weather, and Carol is

here. A long walk over, I will take my time! You look so summary!

It is not summary outside, it is freezing! I will show you some

pictures to start with, isn't that beautiful? Sent in by one of our

weather Watchers, beautiful sunrise, another from Lincolnshire. It has

been a cold start of the day, frosty as well, in fact we have had the

coldest night of winter so far. -12 in Kimbrace in the Scottish

Highlands. England has had his coldest night, -8 in Benson. You

might be asking, why is it so called? Because we have had clear

skies. Have you noticed that there is a real build-up in static

electricity at the moment? It is tied in because when we have got

clearer skies the hair is dry and there is not the cloud to produce

moisture or rain, acting as a blanket to maintain temperature

levels overnight. Dry air does not hold as much moisture, and moisture

is a good conductor of electricity. When the air is moist, the

electricity is discharged much more frequently than when the air is dry,

as it is that the moment. So we have got cheap carpet and cheap shoes,

building up a charge in the same way as rubbing a balloon and putting it

against Jorge to make it stand on end, static electricity. If I were

to touch UI would probably get a shock, and you. I would have very

long arms, stretching over their! I feel like we should test that!

But let's not. So that is why we currently have a lot of static

electricity. And their ends the lesson!

It is cold, it has been a cold start, -12.4 in the Highlands, it

means we got off to a bright start for some, with some sunshine,

forecast has changed in the last 30 minutes, what we are looking at,

instead of wall-to-wall blue skies in southern areas, through the

course of the afternoon, more clout, we already have that scenario, the

cloud is romping south, Templars may not even be as high as we have seen

in the chart, some may even struggle to break freezing. In the

south-west, a bit more clout, temperatures that little bit higher,

as we move into Wales, there will be some sunny breaks but also more

clout than you can see on the charts. Cloud across northern

England as well and Northern Ireland and southern Scotland, brighter

skies across the far and north of Scotland, once again, where we have

had extremely low temperatures, there will not rise particularly

quickly, all gets too high levels during the course of the day. As we

head through the evening and overnight, like the nights just

gone, breaks in the cloud, temperatures tumbling, and mist and

fog patches moving as well. Possibly problematic and we will keep an eye

on that during the course of the day. Look at the levels in Scotland:

in between, where we have clout, courtesy of this weather front, that

means temperatures will not be as low. High pressure with us tomorrow,

effectively blocking the systems coming in from the Atlantic.

Tomorrow, yes, similar to today, it will be cold and frosty to begin

with, one or two showers and variable amounts of cloud around,

temperatures between two, three and 4 degrees. South-west bad seeing as

high as seven Celsius. Moving on into Thursday, similar story, it is

going to be a cold start to the day, brightest conditions will be across

central and eastern areas, to the west, there will be more clout

around and we will see some showers. You can see the change, southerly

wind coming in. -- cloud. Moving from Thursday into Friday, again,

the timing of this could change but this is what we think at the moment,

Atlantic front romping in, the isobars squeezed together, we have

wet and windy conditions coming our way, and also, milder, and then

behind it, brighter skies. Mains unsettled into the weekend. --

remains. Hello it's tuesday,

it's just after ten, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

welcome to the programme if you've A woman who was duped

into a relationship tells us she was 'personally

betrayed' and still wants answers. Here's the former cop she fell

in love with. We both supported each other through

some very difficult times in our personal lives, it is just very sad,

the way that we fell in love and that it happened to be under the

circumstances. Also coming up, for the second year

running NO black actors have been nominated for any of the main Oscars

and the director Spike Lee says he'll boycott the ceremony

describing it as "lily white". Jada Pinkett Smith

is doing the same: Maybe it is time that we pulled back

our resources and we put them back into our communities, into our

programmes. Keep your views on that

story coming in, you can get in touch

in the usual ways, including twitter which is now

back up and running. New figures show the cost of living

has gone up with the prices we pay

for goods and services higher than they were at

this time last year. Inflation edged up to its highest

level for nearly a year last month with the Consumer Prices

Index rising to 0.2%. Air fares were the main contributors

to the rise but alcohol, The Government's launching

a new website to try to help combat Islamic extremism

in English schools. The Educate Against Hate

site includes advice

for teachers and parents. China has recorded its weakest

economic growth rate in 25 years confirming the fears

of global investors over Its economy grew by 6.9% in 2015,

compared with 7.3% a year earlier. An inquiry into why pollsters failed

to predict last year's Conservative general election win has blamed

unrepresentative samples. that the polling companies

didn't survey The film director Spike Lee

and the actress Jada Pinkett Smith say they'll boycott the Oscars

after no black actors were nominated The head of the American Academy has

promised "dramatic change." And The Eagles' guitarist

and songwriter, Glenn Frey, and co-wrote the group's biggest

hit, Hotel California. The two British number ones up and

running in the spreading open campaign, Andy Murray making light

work of Alexander Zverev, the German teenager, the day must go to Johanna

Konta, pulling off one of the biggest victories of her career,

beating the seven time grand slam champion, Venus Williams. Let's talk

to our tennis correspondent Russell Fuller, who's in Melbourne. Venus

Williams is not the player that she used to be, but it was a big victory

for Johanna Konta, she is on a roll after last year. Venus Williams is

35 now, she was in terrific form last year but she's not the same

player that was playing so well on tour, the Anaconda, winning in

straight sets against the seven time grand slam champion, what a change

we have seen from her in the last 12 months, looks like she plays very

confidently playing against the very best players in the sport on the

greatest stage. She was a comfortable winner at the Rod Laver

arena. She looked very short. -- Johanna Konta. Andy Murray was

pretty comfortable as well, good win for him, but straight after the

match he was quick to talk about this controversy surrounding tennis.

-- she looks very assured. Match fixing allegations by Buzzfeed and

BBC, Andy Murray has said that he never personally was approached to

throw a match, he said he was not surprised that top 50 players had

been implicated and his biggest message to the tennis authorities

was that buyers of whatever age need more education, they need to be

warned more about the potential risks of getting involved with the

betting syndicates. I do think it is important that players are educated

from a very young age about not just how damaging it can be to their

career but how damaging it can be to the integrity of the whole sport.

You hope that it is not widespread. I do not know what " widespread"

means, I don't know how many matches that means. But one is too many,

although it is a negative story, it is good in a way, because it makes

tennis have to do more, and do something about it. Andy Murray will

get back to doing his talking on the court against Sam Groth in the next

couple of days but Rafa Nadal will not be doing any more tennis talking

to the rest of the tournament, out to Fernando Verdasco, which is a

huge shock, but he has not been doing his best in the grand slam

APPLAUSE Last year was a struggle, so many illnesses and injuries the

year before but was beginning to rediscover his best form. -- doing

his best in the grand slams. 90 winners by Fernando Verdasco, came

from 2-1 down in the deciding set to win 6-2 in four hours, 40 minutes,

involved, aggressive, breathtaking tennis. Another big upset in the

last hour, Simona Halep, world number two, beaten by a Chinese

qualifier, and what is remarkable about that is that prior to today,

she had lost all 14 grand slam first-round matches she had played,

it was a record, an wanted, and she has put an end to that area in

Melbourne. Shuai Chang As beating Simona Halep.

We will bring you more headlines at 10:30am.

Thank you for joining us this morning, welcome to the programme

if you've just joined us, we're on BBC 2 and the BBC

A government website is being launched today which hopes to stop

children in schools being radicalised, it is part of a package

of measures, sobbing children going abroad to Syria, why not have a no

travel policy for under 16s without parents. Another viewer says, the

Muslim community needs to integrate into British society more, it is a

huge problem. Why would any parents look at this

huge problem. Why would any parents they do not know that their children

are being radicalised until they go missing? Kids at this age are

rebelling, whatever their religion and background and culture, they do

not listen to their parents, all looking for direction and will latch

onto whatever is available. George on Facebook says, " it is not a

Muslim issue, it is just very poor parenting". You can watch the

programme wherever you are, online, through the BBC News ab or through

the website. -- app. How great is the betrayal

when a relationship ends and you later discover that the man

with whom you shared your life for two years was living

a lie and was in reality She was in relationship

with Mark Kennedy, who spent seven years infiltrating

environmental protest groups, He had a number of sexual

relationships while undercover. It was a difficult time, this was a

person that I shared everything with, we had an amazing friendship,

very loving and caring relationship, we spend a lot of time together. We

spent a lot of time together in some very difficult situations. Some very

intense situations. Both in the UK and abroad. Equally, I had a lot of

very good friends, a lot of people in the activist movement who are

really genuine and nice people, only doing the things they are doing

because they really believe they have to do those things to bring

about change. Although I never erred or straight from passing on the

intelligence that I was gathering, including people who were close

friends of Mark Stone, it became very difficult, and it did become a

personal issue in my own head. How did you reconcile passing

information about somebody that you were in love with, and other fellow

activists? The person I was in love with was not really involved with

situations where I needed to pass intelligence about her, and in fact,

I never did. Certainly... If you had needed to... To whom would your

loyalty have gone? In those circumstances I think I would not

have done. Therefore, it was unprofessional. Yes, you could say

that, but I think that I was in a position... She was a person that

was very independent, and still is. I am sure. She is a person who would

make up her own mind and decisions about what she wanted to do and I

respected that. If she went on something and she was arrested for

it, that is very much her way of doing things and if that is what she

wanted to do, then she has to stand by that and I'm sure that she would,

as do many other people. Some campaigners have said that by having

this relationship, by sleeping with this woman, they have described it

as state sanctioned abuse, because this woman could not give her

informed consent to sleeping with you because she did not know who you

really were. That is something which is being addressed by age women who

claim to have had relationships with undercover police officers. -- eight

women. How do you feel about that? I know the relationship that we had

outside of what names were was probably one of the most loving

experiences I have ever had. White you were lying to her. I was lying

to her about my name and who I was, and it is hard to know that has

really hurt her and she is terribly upset about that. It is something

which I'm still finding very hard to deal with and will for a long time

to come full. -- for a long time to come. But how we shared our lives

for four and a half, five years, it was an amazing time, in the sense

that, we both supported each other through some very difficult times in

our personal life. It is very sad, how we fell in love, that the way we

fell in love happen to be under the circumstances. Mark Kennedy.

Last week the Metropolitan Police withdrew their defence

and accepted liability in a case brought by Kate Wilson,

one of eight women who brought legal action over relationships

You were watching Mark Kennedy talk about that relationship, it was not

the relationship with you. It seemed as if you snorted with derision at

his sincerity. What were you thinking? It is very depressing

watching these interviews, particularly because something that

Mark doesn't seem to understand when he gives that interview, and the

police don't seem to understand until very, very recently, is it is

completely irrelevant whether these police officers had genuine feelings

or not. He was a serving police officer on an operation, he should

never have touched me or the other woman. There seems to be some

confusion that somehow it's all right under those circumstances to

fall in love, and the question of whether there were genuine feelings

there is irrelevant, and the police have accepted that in the apology

they issued to women. This is about misconduct by police officers. And

not just by Mark. One of the big issues is that it is impossible that

the supervisors and managers are unaware these relationships were

going on. One of the police officers that had a relationship actually

went on to run the undercover unit after his undercover period

finished, Bob Lambert. And what the police are doing is apologising,

saying, yes, the conduct was wrong but they are really not actually

being accountable, and they are not telling people how high up this

knowledge went. They are not giving any information about how these

relationships were handled by the police, and the Donald giving us any

information about what was going on in the relationships we were having,

so I had no idea whether I was a target of Mark's operation and that

is why he had this relationship with me, or whether I was just somebody

that he met and was a sideline to that. What activities were you doing

at the time? This was around 2002? 2003 to 2005, that was when I was in

a relationship with Mark, we were living together. I was very involved

in the mobilisations against the G8 summit, which we know was one of his

operations, so it is ridiculous to say that I was not in a situation

where he would have had to inform on me. You are convinced that he was

gathering intelligence, whatever you want to call it, from new? I'm

convinced he was gathering intelligence from me, probably on me

and on the people around me. It's also very concerning that he had a

telephone and e-mail that we used to communicate, it is impossible to

believe they were not monitoring those communications between us. And

it is very, very distressing to know that there was a whole back room of

officers who followed our relationship around that were

probably making decisions, whether or not directly about my

relationship with him, but about whether we would go together on a

certain trip, and he regularly visited me abroad after the

relationship ended and I was living in other countries and he must have

been getting authorisation from other countries to come and see me.

The other countries to come and see me.

giving any information about that to any of the women. There will be an

inquiry? There will be a public inquiry. How hopeful Ayew of getting

answers? Last night we saw the story of Andrea, who... Another woman in a

relationship, she was featured on Newsnight. That has just come out

now, not because police have approached her and said, we found

that this has happened. It has come because a group called the

Undercover Research Group, who knew that officer, have done the research

themselves with no funding, no state backing at all, and at the moment

all of the people who have been able to apply to the public inquiry to

participate in the inquiry are people who know they have been

infiltrated. But all the information we have about those infiltrations

comes from work done by activists. It amounts to less than 10%. So they

could be other women who still don't know? If you look at the numbers,

more than half the officers that have been found out did have

relationships, at least two fathered children, so there are probably

dozens of women out there who don't know. That is why we are saying that

if the inquiry is going to be robust and able to get to the truth, they

need to publish the names these officers were using undercover so

that women can come forward. Can I ask you when you discovered that the

menu had a relationship with between 2003 and 2005 was in fact an

undercover officer at the time? How did you discover that? I received a

phone call because the woman he was in a relationship without the time

found a passport and went through a deeply distressing experience of

having to look into the background of her partner and discovered that

information, and I was called afterwards. How did you react? It is

the most distressing thing that has happened to me. I still actually

don't know how to describe the reaction. I still don't really know

how to process it, partly because, although I know he was a police

officer, like I say, I still don't actually know what that means. There

is a period of two years that we were living together and the

subsequent years that we remained close friends, the last time I saw

him was August 2010, that whole period of my life is now full of

blanks. There is what I think was happening, and there is then this

sense that there was some nasty sinister spy plot going on that I

was completely unaware for all that time. It might be hard for a lot of

people watching due to really understand why it has been so

distressing, because people tell lies all the time in life, in

relationships, marriages, friendships. Why is this such a body

blow? Partly because it is the realisation that the person you had

the relationship with never existed. Having met with other women since

the relationship, it starts feeling like a very personal betrayal that

possibly could be compared to those kind of lies, but then you start to

realise that, no, this was a state-sponsored deceit, this wasn't

just one man that I have a relationship with, it was this whole

unit, this whole structure, and so what starts out as a very personal

loss and personal betrayal suddenly becomes this political betrayal.

Like I say, I still don't know who those people were or exactly what

their role in my life and my relationship was. Would you describe

it as state sanctioned abuse? I would, yes.

Like I said, it is very, very difficult to know how to process it.

It is almost, I don't know what happened, I remember the time we

were together but my memory is of course are not the reality, so

suddenly I don't know what he was thinking and what his supervisors

were thinking, who was watching, even. Even if you did manage to get

all the answers, if, for example, head of the public inquiry there was

protracted publications of all of the pseudonyms of the officers at

the time so women could come forward, and potentially men, for we

know, if you got those kind of answers, would that be enough for

you to then move on, or do you think you are always going to be agitated

all, what is the word, there is a better word than that... This thing

will always be unresolved in your life? It is very, very hard to know.

We've been involved in this court campaign and now there is a public

inquiry, this has been going on for five years and is going to go on for

several more years. To date, the police have been totally

destructive. I find it very hard to believe there would be, on the part

of the police, a proactive attempt to put things right. It is possible

that Lord Justice Pitchford will see that it is impossible to have an

inquiry unless people are invited to come forward. The police are

claiming these failures of supervision and management, which

means they might not be aware of some of the abuses that the officers

were committing because they were not supervising them properly. So it

is essential to let people know these things happen so they can come

forward and say, maybe the police didn't know about it. With so many

relationships over such a long period of time, it is impossible to

think they didn't have any idea at all, but they may not have known all

the details. Do you mind me asking if what happened to you there, what

you have discovered since, have affected your life generally, or

other relationships? Sorry, that feels like a very personal question,

please feel free to tell me to clear off! It has obviously had a massive

effect on my life and on my relationships. One of the things I

remember saying right at the beginning is that it destroys your

ability to trust people. In the beginning, that felt like a good

thing, OK, there are bad people out there who do bad things, so I have

matured, grown-up, I know that you shouldn't trust people, so now I'm

wiser, and that felt like it would be a positive thing. But of course

it's not a positive thing not to trust people in relationships. Over

the years, you start to realise how deep that goes. How damaging. And

how much it affect your ability to be close to other people.

Thank you very much for being so honest and for coming on the

programme. You're welcome. We will of course report on the inquiry.

We've had this statement from Assistant Commissioner Martin Hewitt

He says he's apologised publicly to seven women as a result of civil

claims arising from long-term, intimate sexual relationships

involving undercover police officers and that undercover policing is now

Independent surveillance commissioners have had a role

since 2000, and the Government has now proposed additional powers

to oversee undercover investigations.

However tight the controls are now, however extensive the supervision,

the MPS will support the public inquiry's work to find

We have a significant responsibility to reassure the public

about the ethics and integrity of modern policing.

Next, let's talk about the boycott of the Oscars.

The American Academy, which hands out the Oscars,

will review its membership criteria after no black actors were nominated

Director Spike Lee says he'll boycott this year's ceremony

as he "cannot support" the "lily white" awards show.

In an Instagram post-committee said, how is it possible for a second

consecutive year or 20 contenders under the actor category are white?

And let's not even get into the other branches, 41 actors in two

years and no flavour at all. We can't act?!

And, in a video posted online, the actress Jada Pinkett Smith says

Maybe it is time that we pull back our resources and put them back

into our communities, into our programmes,

and we make programmes for ourselves that acknowledge us in ways

that we see fit that are just as good as the so-called mainstream

Some of the apparent missions for Oscar nominations include Will

Smith, not nominated for Best Actor for his film Concussion, Michael

Jordan for Creed, it was Alba, lemonade in the supporting category

Ashgrove nominated in the supporting category.

In a speech to TV executives and MPs in the UK last night,

the British actor Idris Elba said there's a real problem with good

Our black people normally play Pettigrew minerals, our women always

the love interest or talking about men. Our gay people always

stereotyped? Are disabled people feed at all? This is what every

young actor asks, black, white, male or female, should I go to America to

become a successful actor? I'm always in a quandary, because it's

not always true that the grass is greener. I went to America, the

reason I went to America is because the USA has the most famous

diversity policy of all. It is called the American dream. The

problem is, the gap between the dream and reality. The gap is what

Martin Luther King set out to fill in his dream. To champion diversity

is to champion the American dream, and it is to say that, look, if you

work hard and have great talent, you have the same chance as anyone else

to succeed will stop it guarantees no more than that, but that in

itself is a golden guarantee, and that is the guarantee I want here in

Britain. Where is the British dream? That is the guarantee one here in

Britain, where is the British dream? The Academy Awards are blatantly

racist, 30% of the US population is people of colour, in a fair system,

30% of nominees should be people of colour, the fact it is zero for the

second year in a row is insultingly racist and a sign that the system is

broken. I find the lilywhite comment extremely offensive and racist, if

all or most of the nominees were black and a white actor called it

the dark Oscars, that actor would be condemned by all, what this reaction

has achieved is that every award ceremony will now have equal

black-and-white nominees regardless of achievement, positive racism is

as wrong as all other forms. We have more that we will read in a moment.

Those are messages and e-mails coming in. Joining us now, with us

now Menhaj Huda - director and producer of the award-winning

British film Kidulthood. But first Radio 1 Newsbeat's Entertainment

Reporter Chi Chi Izundu is here to tell us more. Reaction to the fact

that Spike Lee and Jada Pinkett-Smith will not be there.

They say they will not even bother watching it on television, they do

not want to participate at all, and the comments from Spike Lee are more

prevalent, he was being awarded and Henri Oscar, just in November, so he

should be there at the ceremony. -- honorary Oscar. There has been

comments from David are you logo, he played Martin Luther King in Selma

last year, that was nominated in best film, but he and the black

director were not nominated. He has said that as an academy member, the

Academy Awards, the Academy Awards does not represent him or America or

diversity. -- David Oyelowo. He also pointed out that some big films like

Star Wars, which has John Boyega as one of the leads, young black actor,

which has made history, recently, becoming the most viewed film at the

box office, of all time, did not get nominated in any of the main

categories that we are talking about, it did get nominated in

creativity and special effects. That did not get nominated. He also says

things like Empire, massive show in America, Chisnall acknowledged

either and he is angry at how the system happens. -- is not

acknowledged either. The problem is with who hires who, if you have a

wide rid of old white men, which is what Hollywood is quite well known

for, in terms of costing and how films are put together, then it is

going to be quite difficult for black, women or any other mineral to

to get through. Thank you very much. What you think is going on? I think

when it comes to the Academy Awards and the BAFTAs, there is a huge

campaign that goes on behind each film. Lots of money spent and time

is spent on trying to get those particular films to be nominated. It

is serious lobbying. It is, and also, there is a lot of politics

behind it as well. It is not entirely surprise and at those films

which we have seen in the running have not been picked up, because

clearly, this year they were not campaigning in the same way as the

other films. So it is not racism? It is in a way, also, look at how the

Academy Awards are run and how all awards are run. Somebody who works

within the industry... We understand how it operates. It is not a fair

system in that sense. It is not really judging on merit. Let me put

this to you, 12 years a slave one, let me put that to you... Are you

saying that did not win because it was a great film, are you saying it

one because... Because it was time, in a way, there was a good Oscar

contending film there and people felt now was the time for a black

film to actually get nominated and when. In someways they felt that was

done. And then they can move on. Last year, the Alan Turing story, it

was more about homosexuality. This year, films about transgender. It

seems like they go from different themes. In terms of politics. That

is interesting. Let's see what they will do to change the make-up of the

Academy, tell me if you think this will make any difference to the

nominees that we see in the future. The head of the Academy Awards, who

is apparently heartbroken at the lack of diversity, she is going to

take dramatic steps. Cheryl Boone Isaacs is the head of the Academy.

She says that changes have already been fermented to diversify

membership but change is not coming as fast as they would like. There is

no substance here but she is going to do something, I don't know what

the details are, she will tell us at some point, will that make a

difference? I don't know what the make-up is at the moment of the

American Academy, the British Academy, but there is definitely a

case for every by diverse backgrounds rubbing together and

making a point of voting for those films that they feel they want to

have nominated. Obviously it needs to go beyond that but if you

organised the members who are able to vote, is quite a small

membership, for the BAFTAs, only 7000 votes, and when you look at the

200 odd films, it is not that difficult to try to collate those

votes to try to promote those things. Something like that could

work. Very quick word about the boycotting by Spike Lee and Jada

Pinkett-Smith, is that the right thing to do? It has made the right

impression, it has got everyone talking about it. Whether it is

ethnically correct -- ethically correct for them to do it, I don't

know, but by doing it, they are bringing attention to it, and that

is a good thing. Thank you the joining us.

Coming up: is enough being done to help young offenders turn away from

crime to mark and, the cost of living is going up, we will find out

why things are costing more in the shops.

The cost of living in Britain - as measured by the rate of inflation -

has edged up to its highest level for nearly a year - the Consumer

Prices Index for December rising to 0.2%. Air fares were higher than the

previous month, but alcohol, tobacco and food costs were down.

The Education Secretary is launching an initiative designed to counter

It includes a new website to help teachers and parents identify

The Chinese economy grew by its slowest rate in a quarter

fuelling anxiety both inside and outside China.

The world's second largest economy expanded by six-point-nine

The failure of pollsters to predict the result of last year's

general election has been put down to sampling methods.

An independent inquiry found that Conservative voters

were under-represented in phone and online polls.

The social networking site Twitter was down for users

in several countries, including the UK, earlier this morning.

Our technology correspondent Rory Cellan-Jones is here.

It is difficult to know what has happened, Twitter have been

reporting on a different blog, Tumblr, they have said that they

were aware of the issue and were working towards a resolution. Mass

panic, people unable to tweet four something like two hours, it seems

to be coming back, in fact I have posted something, that has proven

that it is back. When these sites go down, it used to happen all the

time, it happens much more rarely these days. There is only people

using them as a means of communication, 15 million people in

the UK have a Twitter account, it does seem to be something like mass

panic when they can no longer use it. Who knows what has caused it,

back in problems perhaps, there has been attacks on sites like this

which sometimes overwhelm the traffic, we do not know, but it kind

of stresses how dependent we have become in this modern era on being

in touch this way. Speak for yourself(!) LAUGHTER

In her first appearance at the straight in Oban, British number one

Johanna Konta has beaten her childhood idol, Venus Williams, she

said it was a bit of a blur after knocking out the champion in

straight sets. Than Evans and Aljaz knocking out the champion in

Bedene have both lost, good news for Andy Murray, through to round two.

-- Dan Evans. Andy Murray has scene's Alexander Zverev. Andy

Murray says that tennis needs to do a better job of warning young

players about match fixing, following from yesterday's

controversy. Swansea City are out of the relegation zone thanks to a 1-0

victory over Watford, the new boss, Francesco Guidolin, watched from the

stands as Ashley Williams headed in the winner. Jordan Rhodes gave

Blackburn Rovers a victory over Newport, 2-1, taking them to the

fourth round the FA Cup. England when Chris Ashton could miss the six

Nations after being cited for making contact with Ulster player Luke

Marshall's eyes during the cup match on Saturday. That is the sporting

headlines. If young offenders aren't helped

when it comes to them moving will it lead to them

committing more crimes? That's what a report

out today suggests. Professor Neal Hazel

is from Salford University, he's a former Deputy Chief Inspector

of Probation, years ago aged 19 and also has

experience of youth offending

services. My last conviction, I jumped

straight into probation. Because I was an adult. Youth offending, it

was more like I would be planning my journey home before I even get

there, because it is such a quick meeting. They say they have this

information or new, your youth offenders workers need to know

everything about you, you need to be communicating with them anything you

need. That they can help you. Give you some sort of advice, anything

like that. Nothing like that used to go on. Before you were 18, you were

convicted of drug possession with intent to sell, when you are 19, you

were convicted of robbery, you were sentenced to six years, is there any

more, what more could the youth offending team have done to support

you which could have tried to help you stop reoffending. Audio tape

total responsibility for what you did? -- or, do you take total

responsibility for what you did aged 19? Coming from Plumstead, a little

estate, there is not a lot of opportunities there are, even with

the opportunities like the local council coming round with a DJ bus,

and getting us on the bus, do some music and stuff. You have to sign

forms, and nothing comes from the back of it. Youth offending, in that

aspect, there was no help. I would not give them all the blame, I knew

wrong from right, of course, but it was more when I needed them, they

was not there, you know what I am saying. As a form former deputy

chief inspector of probation, what are the main issues? The problem is,

widely recognised, age 18 support for young offenders drops off

dramatically, and up until the age of 18 youth offending teams do

provide a multi-agency support for young people who offend. What does

that mean? Social workers, nurses, a whole range of services that is

provided to young people to try to identify what are the issues in

their lives, why are they offending, what can we do about it? At age 18,

that support drops off, the problem is that age 17 to 18 is the peak age

for offending, when that support is needed the most. It does not happen

in this country. That is the concern. That transferred from the

youth services... That can lead to... Once turning 18... Going back

into a life of crime, without that support? That is right, because at

that age, 17 to 18, young people are trying to search for their identity,

search for what they will become, are they going to be constructive

members of society? Will they feel they are big and hard because they

are offenders? What is happening? They need guidance into the right

jobs, into the right types of relationship, that is the age when

that drops off. I am guessing that some people listening to you speak

now will be shouting at the television saying, they are 18, they

are adults, they know right from wrong, do they really need support

in getting in the right relationships? Come off it! This is

what the research suggests, that these young people have a lot of

issues, and we can say, we should be hard on them, they are adults, all

we can be soft on them, but what I'm interested in, what does research

say stops them offending? We need to put in practice the support they

need at that point and they need guidance, a lot of these people do

not have ordinary childhood, they do not have the support that the rest

of us have received, they need clear role models and clear support and

guidance to help them at that point. That does help the recidivism rates,

it does help them stop offending. Can I take on that support? As you

know, I was in prison, halfway through my sentence I got introduced

to a charity where they would take offenders and work with them,

allocate them mentors and get them work, set out careers if that is

what they want, help them with business plans if they want to work

on business plans. Not only just that personal support, if you are

going through problems at home you can pick up the phone and call

someone, and they will give you that support. And that has been massive

for you? Not just a help for me but for the other people on the

programme. Not just the people on the programme, but the fund is

getting involved with the programme, they are learning from it just as

much as we are learning from it. So whether or not, as Neal was saying,

people think it is mollycoddling, we would all like someone at the end of

the phone to help us make a decision or get into the right relationship

or that kind of thing, actually it is who needs it most and you were

the sort of person, having been in the youth offending system, and then

in jail, you needed it, and it is working? It is definitely working.

Obviously you have to want it as well. The people but actually

seriously wanted, this is the best opportunity they can get. If you are

half-hearted about it, you need to work on yourself. It is not just you

and your own, this course is not here to tell you to work on yourself

by yourself, it is telling you, work on yourself and we will give you the

help you need. On probation, they never had the holistic approach.

Probation, they are there, but it is more of a pain where when you are

breaching your license and things like that, they will not think twice

about it, just keep your head down or stop but people like the charity

help you to do that. Thank you very much, nice to meet you. Professor

Neal Isil, as well, thank you for your time.

A Ministry of Justice spokesperson said, moving from the user to adult

justice system can be a difficult time for young people and their

families. We accept all the inspector's recommendations today

and are taking action to implement them.

Last month we showed you a film about an innovative new project,

developed by police in South London, to try to stop young adults

It's run by officers and a group of volunteers, who try to find work

Here is our reporter. Hi, coming out?

I'm just going to ask a few questions about you and your

interests, the sort of things you like doing, what you are into. What

are your interests? Football, anything like that? Might interest

is mainly motorbikes. Motorbikes? And art and design. What sort of art

and design, drawing, taking pictures? I can draw anything.

And you can see the full film on our programme page.

Let's talk about the state of the economy and what it

In the next couple of hours the Governor of the Bank

of England, Mark Carney, will give a speech on the current

international economic outlook, including the future for interest

You can watch that speech on the BBC News channel.

It comes as figures for December out this morning show the cost of living

in Britain, as measured by the rate of inflation,

has edged up to its highest level for nearly a year.

There have been predictions too this

morning about the state of the world economy.

The International Monetary Fund has again cut its forecast for global

growth, largely because of fears about the health of economies such

China has posted its slowest annual growth in 25 years.

The world's second-largest economy expanded by 6.9% last year,

So why does this all matter and how will it affect us?

Our business correspondent Aaron Hezelhurst is here

And we can also talk to Ann Robinson, director

of consumer policy at USwitch.

This growth in China last year is massive compared to what we have had

for years, 6.9%. Why is it bad news? Because it has 1.3 billion people,

it has a big economy and need a bigger number to drive that Chinese

engine. Let's not kid ourselves, we used to say, the US sneezes, we all

catch a cold, China sneezes, we catch a cold. Markets have not

reacted negatively to this because it was expected, Beijing has been

going through a transition, the Government, the policymakers. China

has been the factory floor of the world for a very long time and the

policymakers want to change that economic model and become more like

we are, consumer driven, they want to create a very big middle class

and get the Chinese people to buy lots of stuff and spend. That number

from China today certainly highlights, I personally think it

could be a rocky 2016. So if China's economy is growing more slowly, that

means the people there do not have the same amount of money to buy

stuff from countries like us? That is why it affects us? Absolutely, we

make stuff, the Chinese have been buying it, cars, whatever the items,

you look at the luxury market, the big growth driver was in China. They

are buying less stuff, they buy less from Europe. It has a sort of domino

effect. Ann, what was it George Osborne said at the beginning of the

year, a cocktail of... IPad remember the phrase! It wasn't that good, was

it?! -- I can't remember the phrase. He was warning that we can't get

complacent, it will be a rough year and the figures from China backed

that up. What kind of a rough year might it be for people watching our

programme? The worst would be a hike in interest rates, which I think

could happen towards the end of this year, the beginning of next year.

The other thing George Osborne said, fixed the roof while the sun is

shining, that is important because this year we are all, most of us, in

a pretty good position because wages have gone up so we have a bit more

money in our pockets, a slight dip on inflation today but actually food

prices have gone down a game and energy prices, the two big items in

the budget, have been stable and may come down a bit as well. I think

2016 is looking good, but it you are a borrower... And we all are, let's

face it, mortgages, loans. Try to pay off some of that debt. If you

want to get onto the housing market, try to save a bit more because

mortgages will go up at the end of the year if interest rates go up, so

you need to be prepared for that. Savers are going to be OK because we

may have a bit more money in our pocket, I'm an optimist! But my

strong advice is, if you have any spare cash in your pocket, don't

spend it, don't go for a big costly thing that you can only just afford.

Put it to one side, fix the roof, put yourself in a better position.

Pay down your credit card bills, save more for when the interest

rates go up? But it is important to pay off the credit card bill because

at the moment we are back to pre-crisis levels in terms of

unsecured household debts, not your mortgage but loans on credit cards,

getting back to a very... Because we have all become complacent, we have

got used to low interest rate and there are young people who have

never experienced the kind of interest rates that some of us have

experienced in the past. I have never -- and have never experienced

an interest rate rise! Do you know what I think is important? I would

hope that this interest rate rise is managed properly, don't leave it to

the last minute and go high because it would be difficult to cope with.

Let's have a properly thought through and managed process so there

are tiny increments and only when we need to have that, but tiny

incremental is better than one big jump. Tell me why we need an

interest rate rise even if it is .25% at the end of the year? It is

making sure that information does not go out of control, so that we

are not stimulating, demand is just cut back a little bit, and that get

everything back in order. Am I right? We go back years! Yes, that

is one of the reasons we haven't seen an interest rate rise, we have

had that little blip today, we have gone up 0.1 of a percent, so we

had that little blip today, we have now 0.2%. That is still tiny, the

target is 2%! We are a long way from the target, so they have wiggle room

but it will be interesting to see what Mark Carney says today and

where the points fingers outside to the likes of China as concerns.

Thank you both very much. So many of you getting in touch about the

Oscars this morning, the lilywhite Oscars as Spike Lee has called them.

Let me read some. Jade Pinkett Smith also boycotting it. They are not

even going to watch it on the TV from home, all because of the lack

of nominations for black actors. It is the second year running that

there are no black actors nominated in any of the main categories, no

nominations for with Smith in Concussion or Michael B Jordan in

Creed, or Idris Elba. Some comments, Spike Lee is right

about the Oscars being too lilywhite. An e-mail, I don't think

a separate Oscars ceremony would be the way forward, it would only

create a wider gap for people. That is because someone earlier

suggested that we have separate music awards ceremonies for black

music so why not for the Oscars? Paul on Facebook, lilywhite Oscars?

That is a powerful statement and I'm truly shocked.

A couple more, Darren on Facebook, Samuel L Jackson should win every

award, or else everyone will know that the academy is racist.

Helen on Facebook, just look at our television, you see the same faces

on ITV and BBC and they do not promote fresh faces all new talent.

Tomorrow, we will meet a woman who have opened up a home to a Syrian

teenage refugee who arrived here unaccompanied and does not speak any

English. It's the Oscar

for the mobile phone industry. The search for Britain's best

mobile phone salesperson is on. We are expecting to see people

who can sell anything.