12/02/2016 Victoria Derbyshire

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World powers agree a plan for a ceasefire in Syria

They are not calling it a ceasefire and bombing will continue against

the Islamic terror group Islamic State. There are hopes that more aid

will get through. This will apply to any

and all parties in Syria, with the exception of the terrorist

organisations Daesh and Al-Nusra. We'll be speaking live to an aid

worker on the Turkey-Syria border to get the latest at

a little after 10am. Plans are announced to name

and shame companies that pay men We will be hearing from the women

who walked out on strike and ended up getting equal pay.

The British woman who bribed officials to get out of Peru

after being charged with smuggling drugs.

I told him that I wanted to get back to England,

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World powers have come to an agreement to stop

The agreement for a 'nationwide cessation

of hostilities' to begin in a week's time was made last night,

after talks in Germany between members

of the International Syrian Support Group which includes US,

But it won't apply to the battle against jihadist

groups such as so called Islamic state.

The plan was announced by the American Secretary of State,

John Kerry, and his Russian counterpart Sergey Lavrov.

We have agreed to implement a nationwide cessation

We believe we have made progress. This progress has the potential,

fully implemented, fully followed through one, to be able to change

the daily lives of the Syrian people.

Both John Kerry and Russia's foreign minister Sergei Lavrov admitted,

repeatedly, this was only progress on paper and the real test would be

getting Syria's warring factions to make the plan work on the ground.

TRANSLATION: As it is, we will work together with the Government,

opposition groups, which are in contact with us, and we hope that

the US and countries in the region under the participants of the

International Syria Support Group will use their influence on the

relevant opposition group so that they cooperate fully with the United

Nations. We have a common determination to help alleviate

suffering, and we hope that this will be achieved.

Some diplomats are already saying the ceasefire deal is 'not worth

Our Chief International Correspondent Lyse Doucet

The talks here in Munich have been described

But both Sergei Lavrov, Russia's Foreign Minister,

and US Secretary of State John Kerry clearly believe that progress

First of all a cessation of hostilities.

This is not a ceasefire, this is not an end of conflict.

But over the next week all sides are to make moves to try to agree

the modalities of limiting the violence in some areas.

That, of course, will not include the areas under the control

of the so-called Islamic State or the Al-Qaeda linked Nusra front,

two very important forces on the ground.

And also, crucially, it won't include Russia's bombing

of what it describes as terrorist targets,

and what the west and Syria's opposition forces have said include

the parties fighting against President Assad's forces.

Secondly, what's said to be the immediate delivery of badly

needed humanitarian need to the besieged and hard

-- humanitarian aid. If it happens, the hope is that more aid could

reach civilians in war-torn areas. The diplomats also agreed measures

to speed up and expand the delivery of humanitarian aid,

although there are huge concerns about making the plan

work on the ground. We can cross to near the Syrian

border in Turkey and speak to Dalia Al-Awqati -

she's director of programmes for North Syria at the

charity Mercy Corps. Thank you for joining us. How

needed, as far as you are concerned, is a ceasefire? Well, (INAUDIBLE)

Ultimately the hostilities need to succeed and she monetarily and

assistance needs to get to the people who needed. If this deal went

ahead and was affected on the ground, it should mean more aid is

getting through? What do you need, specifically? (INAUDIBLE)

Negotiations which could lead to a possible end to the conflict is very

important. It could end consequences. It depends on the

goodwill to enforce it. It would lead the door open to military

action against key activists on the ground. It would mean communities

living in Aleppo would still face grave danger. It needs to be an

inclusive ceasefire including key actors on the ground, and there

needs to be no interference from warring parties. The humanitarian

agencies like Mercy Corps should be able to reach these communities.

Even if it were implemented, would it make much difference? The area

around Aleppo is where refugees are fleeing from the area where you are

on the border with Turkey. If air strikes continue against al-Nusra,

presumably the refugees will continue to go? That is a very good

assessment. That is why it needs to be inclusive of the key actors.

Different groups operate in different pockets, particularly in

Aleppo. It is important but in this particular process, their needs are

protected. That is the main concern for Mercy Corps and it's part this.

That we ensure civilians protected and that humanitarian assistance is

able to get to their locations. As it currently stands, with the

inclusion of key actors on the ground, it would remain quite

problematic. It would leave the door open to military action. What is

happening with the numbers on the ground leaving and heading to the

border with Turkey? It has been almost a week now, a little bit

short of the week, but we saw tens of thousands of people leave areas

north of Aleppo city, headed for areas nearby. People fled a very

short notice and moved into areas where attacks continued and fighting

intensified, they had to be further displaced. So people had to move

further north towards the Turkish border in search of a sense of

safety for themselves and their families. Tens of thousands of

people in the period of four days is the re-emergence. They are moving

into pre-existing camps, doubling the population in those camps. Dalia

Al-Awqati, thank you very much. Ministers are to force the UK's

biggest employers to publish more information about the difference

in pay between their male But employers are fiercely

resisting the changes, saying that it's too crude a measure

and won't take into account the many reasons why people have

different pay packets. Latest figures show that women

in the UK still earn on average 20% The fight for equal pay was kicked

off in part,by these two - They walked out of Ford's Dagenham

plant in 1968 after discovering that their male colleagues

were earning 15% more than them. Their action led to the introduction

of the Equal Pay Act. We'll talk to them in a moment

but first let's take a look back We are on strike, all of us,

all of us machinists, anyway. It did used to make me feel

very annoyed, really. I mean, I worked as hard as them

and I've been working a long time. To think that they got

more money than Everybody who works in Asda,

be it shop floor, canteen assistance, tills, I think

we all deserve the same rate of pay. We all work hard,

every single one of us. I can't see why we should

be split up and given a certain rate of pay

over somebody else. We are going to require companies

under the regulations, companies with over 250 employees,

to publish the gender pay gap We as a government will then

compile those league We don't think this policy

is going to be the silver bullet that is going to close the gender

pay gap in a generation. Let's talk to Gwen Davis

and Eileen Pullen. Thank you both very much for joining

us. So you walked out on strike in June 1968, that action eventually

lead to a 19% pay increase. What prompted the walk-out? I started

work in Ford in 1963, but Eileen had started in 1947. The fight for

equal... Well, Ford had a grading system. We had to be experienced

machine at speed for Ford would even higher you -- machinists before.

They graded us as semiskilled. If you have to set... Said a test and

have two years experience, we thought we should be at a higher

grade. If a man served an apprenticeship, only one year more

than a woman, we felt we were not treated fairly. We were given the

same money as a janitor. And, I mean, they didn't have to have

experience to sweep or clean-up, but we had to have experience. When did

it become clear to you that men and women were being treated

differently? It has always been the same, since we started work, men and

women were different. Until they got to the 187 backing we happy I does,

we could all stick together. How did it come together that you decided,

we have had enough? We found out that we had night workers, three

men, they did the machines, they only did a feud job and we found out

that they were getting C grade. A higher grade than you, for doing the

same job? Yes. We had meetings, it was going on for two or three years,

the meetings, trying to get this C grade. We had a rise every year from

Ford, didn't we, the unions put in for a rise. But we wanted them to

recognise as as skilled workers, the cars we had to be skilled before

they would take us on, give us a job. -- because we had to be. We all

had to do a test because they would not take us on otherwise, I had to

be 21, Eileen started work much longer. When you look back and you

know how a story ends, it always seems obvious, but when you are in

it, it is not. How did you feel going out at that time? We were

determined. Every year, when the pay rise came up, Ford would give as a

rise but they would not give us the skill, we wanted to be recognised as

skilled workers. That would have put us on the higher grade. We would

have earned much more. But they would not recognise us as skilled

workers, they said, no, you are unskilled. So our union said the

only way you will get your rise, or your skill recognised, is by walking

out. At the meeting we had to show a band, everybody was for it. Did you

feel at the time that you were on a crusade? We put everything down and

walked out. Did you feel it was a crusade for women's rights? Fair

grading, not equal pay, that came afterwards. You were focused on your

own personal situation, did you think more widely about things that

have come into force since? We were determined, if it came to the push,

we had had enough. When we worked out, for the first week it was very

quiet. Because they had a stockpile of seats. So they had plenty of

seats to put into the cars. of seats. So they had plenty of

the second half of the second week, they ran out. And, of course, all

the men were laid off then because the men were not laid off in the

first week, only on the second week of our strike. Then, of course, the

men were very rude because they said, you are only at work for pin

money. But we weren't. We were not at work for pin money. We earned

because we had to earn money to help in the home. My home was built in

1939. At that stage, it needed doing up, it needed modernising. That is

why you go out to work. You got a 90% pay rise, did you know it was

that big? I think we all knew it would make a difference. Rolling

forward to today and what is being done to end the gender pay gap, it

is now 20%, what do you think about that? It is not really right. Not

good enough. It is OK if you have a really good job and you have worked

at to the best position but people who work on the shop floor, things

like that, people that are doing cleaning, they never get considered,

do they? They are always going to be on the lowest grade. They are never

going to have a better job. They haven't got backing, have they? What

would you say - what would you say to people looking at you, you

achieved a huge amount. We just walked out and the union was behind

us. In the end they made it official. We felt we had to walk

out, otherwise we would never have got our equal pay. Barbara Castle

was wonderful to us. She suggested that we fight for all women, not

just ourselves. And so much changed with the Equal Pay Act. Equal pay

for equal work, if you do the same job you should get the same money.

The government is talking about ending this within a generation. I

can't see that happening. Are you proud of the part we played?

Definitely. Now we are. What did you feel like before? When we went back

to work with thought nothing of it, we didn't think any more of it until

the film came out, Made In Dagenham, and then it all came out. So you did

not realise until the film was made! We travelled to different countries

and women were so interested in what we were doing because a lot of

countries never got the equal pay, although America got it in 1963 but

only certain parts of America. Because we met a lady who was

fighting for equal pay in America. Let me read some of the messages

from the viewers. Sitting at home watching the real ladies of Dagenham

on the show, such amazing woman, full of respect. A tweet from

Anthony, people forget that in the First World War it was the women who

run the country. Glenys says why are the government naming and shaming

people who pay women less, it has been illegal for years, they should

be prosecuted. Sophie says, glad this is being discussed on TV. Thank

you for joining us. Thanks for joining us

today - still to come. A British woman who claims

she was duped into carrying drugs in Peru tells us how she bribed

officials to get back to the UK. As Kenya misses a deadline to prove

it's taking decisive action to fight cheating in athletics,

could the country be banned Key figures in talks on the Syrian

conflict have agreed steps His paws in hostilities could lead

to more aid getting through. The International Syrian Support

Group, diplomats meeting in Munich, and expand the delivery

of humanitarian aid -- It's hoped the ceasefire will come

into effect within seven days -- but it will not apply to Russia's

bombing of what it regards We believe we have made progress on

the monetary and front and the cessation of hostilities fund. These

two fronts, it has the potential, fully followed through on, to be

able to change the daily lives of the Syrian people.

The partner of the former EastEnders actress, Syan Blake,

has been arrested at Heathrow Airpot on suspicion of murdering her

Arthur Simpson-Kent was detained at after flying back

The bodies of Syan Blake and her sons were were found

in the garden of their home in south-east London in December.

Some leading NHS chief executives have said they're opposed

to the government's decision to impose a new contract on junior

They say the pay offer is fair - but insist they don't support

the contract's introduction without the agreement of staff.

Firms with more than 250 employees will have to publish any disparity

in the salaries of their male and female staff as part of efforts

New league tables will be published to name and shame companies who fail

One of Britain's biggest manufacturers - the engine maker,

Rolls Royce, has announced a fall in pre-tax profits from ?1.6 billion

The company is halving its dividend - the first cut in

But it hasn't said anything about further job cuts -

beyond the 3,600 redundancies announced previously.

Asian stock markets fell again overnight after big falls in Europe

yesterday - because of fears about the strength of banks.

Yesterday, the index of Britain's top companies fell to a three

Shares rose this morning after and overnight jump in the price of oil.

First-time buyers in England who buy a house this year will already have

spent an average of nearly ?53,000 on rent,

according to research for a landlords' trade body.

The figure is set to hit over sixty four thousand pounds for those

starting renting now, meaning some people will never be

able to afford to buy their own place.

Let's catch up with all the sport now and join Hugh -

what's the latest on the Kenya doping story, Hugh?

Good morning. More debate in athletics. There is a debate as to

whether Kenny will take part in the Olympics this year. They've missed a

deadline to prove to the world and he'd be a they are tackling cheating

in athletics. They will now be on a watchlist of those breaking the code

set by the World Anti-Doping Agency. Russia currently exiled from the

sport while they prove their credentials. Could Kenya go the same

way? We will hear what one great coach says about this after the

break. At home the news is the sacking of the footballer Adam

Johnson by his now former club Sunderland. This came after the

28-year-old pleaded guilty to one count of grooming and one more of

sexual activity with a child. He denies two further charges, his

trial begins today at Bradford Crown Court. And a shock Rugby the

grizzled last might. More to come about cricket and rugby union as

well -- and a shock to come about surprise rugby result last night.

Thank you. A British woman who bribed officials

to return to the UK whilst on parole in Peru for drugs offences says five

other women have used the same Lillian Allen had been jailed

for eight years in 2011 for trying to smuggle 7kg of

cocaine out of Peru. She was released on parole in 2014

and was supposed to remain in the country until 2018,

but now she's home. She claims she's just one

of a number of British women who have paid corrupt airport police

in Peru to help them get out She spoke to our

reporter Peter Coulter. I have never proved I am innocent. I

can't. You have to say you are guilty to get a shorter sentence. I

always said I never wanted another girl to come from my country.

I went to Peru on holiday. The drugs will put in my bag, and they got

away. I never saw any drugs or smart any drugs, nothing. It was giving me

as gifts, ladies handbags, manufactured inside the lining so

you could not see anything. You could not smell anything. A man

tapped me on the shoulder, are you a tourist? Is your name Lilian? He

says, can you come with me? He took me down to a victim, these are

suitcases? Do you mind opening them? I opened them both, he looked

through them and lifted up the bags. He cut one and some stuff fell out.

He took another bag. More stuff fell out, three bags. Almost seven kilos

of cocaine. I was told not to go innocent because if you go innocent,

it can take up to two or three years to get a court date because it has

to go to a High Court. So I was told, say that you did it. You

pleaded guilty, told, say that you did it. You

sentence? Eight years which automatically becomes sixes and

eight months. You went out there and brought back these bags and pleaded

guilty, you deserve what is coming to you, in a way. Everyone has to

make up their own mind but I know in my heart what happened. It does not

matter what other people think. I know. After you were sentenced who

were taken to Santa Monica prison. What was it like there? Awful. It

was meant to be held for 900 people and there were 2500. We slept on

floors. I slept on the floor for five and a half months. When we

arrived it was disgusting. It was where the men lived. And they did

not clean. What was it like in the prison when you heard that the two

young girls had been arrested? There was a lot of talk as we were

watching the news, and in the newspapers, we knew what was going

on. We could see. The first time, I think it was the second day, I met

them because they were down the bottom for a while until they came

up to us. And when they came up, I said to them, keep yourselves to

yourselves. Don't need to anyone. You don't need to mix with anyone,

there are two of you, stick together, keep it that way. How are

they coping? Bridge Mike God forbid, it was like they were on holiday.

They had their families coming out three or four times. With a treated

differently because of the profile they had? Not by the director, which

is the governor, he said that there would be no special treatment and no

cameras brought in for them. When you were released from prison

was their help from the consulate? No. Once you get out of prison the

consulate has finished with you. When he left prison, how did you

start to go about getting back to the UK? The other girls had got out,

they came back for a visit and gave the phone number of this person who

can help you. Was this widely known, that there was a way out? Yes, a lot

of people went straight back home. It was $600 for the airport police,

and it was $500 for the flight. That is a substantial amount of money,

where do you get that from? Khan my family send me money. The pound goes

a long way and I was being paid every month and $150 and straight to

my family and the rest I was trying to juggle. The telephone number that

one girl had given me, I kept safe and I found them, I told them I

wanted to get back to England, could he help me? He said yes. I went to

meet him. He told me that it would be $600. I went to the airport that

morning, and two airport police took my photo and made me look at them

and memorise them and then they told me what desk I had to go to. You are

going through customs, you don't have a stamped passport, where you

worried? Getting worried. He was looking through my passport and

talking to me at the same time, asking where I came from and I said

from Colombia to London. He says, you are on your way out, I said, I'm

getting the bus, and if you don't hurry I will miss it. He was still

flicking through the passport. Users, I am sorry, of Hugo, enjoy

the rest of your trip. I went, thank you that Mackie said, sorry, of

Hugo. And when I got on that bus, as soon as the bus took off, that is

when I cried. How many have taken that trip? Four or five. For all

five of them took that route coming back into the country? Would you say

more are coming behind you? How many will try doing that? If they can't

afford their fine it's the only way out unless they want to stay.

Technically you are still on parole from Peru, what is every day like

knowing that you are still on parole? The first five months were

fine, I am starting out to... Not really fit but, you think about,

would the police ever take me back, even though I have been told that

they would not take me back from here. But could they come and find

me and take me back? Because there is no way I am going back. Hasn't

ruined your life? Yeah. It has took four years away from my kids, from

my grandkids. The Peruvian Government told us it

takes all allegations of corruption seriously and is improving migration

controls throughout Peru. You can

watch and share that film Coming up, we will be discussing

emotional abuse after new figures suggest more than a third of young

women have experienced a controlling relationship.

The World Anti-Doping Agency has said that Kenya has missed

a deadline to prove that it's taking decisive action

to fight cheating in athletics following a spate of

The country will now be put on a watch-list

and could face a ban from this summer's Olympics in Rio.

BBC News has heard evidence of doping from Kenyan athletes

and allegations of corruption levelled at sporting officials.

The Kenyan government has told the BBC it's establishing

Asbel Kiprop, a Kenyan champion middle-distance runner says

he is worried about the damage all this is doing to the sport.

It is a disgrace, especially to the sport and to ourselves

It is a disgrace to a hard-working athlete when an athlete is found

having used performance enhancing drugs.

Our BBC Sport editor Dan Roan spoke to an athlete,

who didn't want to be identified, about why he had

Have you used performance enhancing drugs?

In Kenya, most people are using, so if you don't use,

you just repeat training, training, training only.

Brother Colm O'Connell is an Irish missionary who's spent

He's also a coach to one of the country's top athletes,

and he's widely credited with bringing the country's

athletics scene into the world-dominating force

He was asked how serious these revelations are for the sport.

It is serious and, I mean, people had to take it seriously.

Maybe Kenya was a little bit slow off the mark in really addressing

this problem when it first came to the fore.

2012, just before the London Olympics, there were

And they were more or less swept under the carpet a little bit.

But now, I think, since then, it has very much hit home

that there is a problem in the country.

And we are hoping, as coaches on the ground, and as athletes,

that this won't, kind of, interfere with our focus on Rio,

that it would in any way distract from it.

-- that it will not in any way distract from it.

And, of course, Kenya has to, as far as it possibly can,

go into Rio with a clean sheet, you know?

And convince the world, basically, as cycling is trying to do,

that we've now cleaned up our act, we are on top of these things,

and any performance we see from Kenya in Rio

Let's speak now to Peter Musemi from the BBC's Swahili Service,

who has been following developments in Kenya.

And we are joined by a webcam from I representative from Sporting

Integrity, and organisation that aims to clean up sport. Where do

things go from here, they have not delivered what the World Anti-Doping

Agency wanted? Wada has issued a statement to clarify that it is true

that Kenya was not able to the deadline given to set up a credible

anti-doping agency. At the same statement from Wada acknowledges

that a body has been set up, it has not started functioning as yet. They

acknowledge that Kenya has made strides. So Kenya is to be put under

watch among other nations expected to take action to fulfil the

expectations of Wada. I need to point out that there is Brazil,

France, L Jim, Andorra, all of these countries are in debt a watchlist of

Wada -- Belgium and Andorra. Kenya could end up not being able to

compete in the Rio Olympics, how is this being seen in Kenya? It would

be devastating for Kenya if it was not to participate. It even worse

for athletics. I don't see the possibility of Kenya not being at

Rio. It would be a disaster, not for Kenya only but for the IAAF and for

the Games. Think about the Olympics without the chap that you just sold,

Kiprop, the 1500 world champions, and many other world champions, 8000

metres, 1500 metres, 5000 metres, 10,000 metres, men and women. It is

not possible to hold Games without champions, I don't think it will be

possible for Kenya not to participate. I think they will be

able to meet what has been asked in good time. The government has given

reassurance that is now a body is in place, funds are being made

available to have a laboratory so that anti-doping will be conducted

within the country. For many years, samples had to be sent to South

Africa or Switzerland for testing, which has left loopholes. That is

why in the last five years or so there has been increased cases of

doping, with a big number of athletes having tested positive. I

also need to point out that these were not high profile athletes, I

don't want to call them mediocre, that they were not the sort of

athletes that would qualify to represent their country in big

sports like the Olympics or world athletics Championships. Thank you,

Peter. Let's not talk to Michelle, could Kenya do enough to be able to

compete in the Olympics? -- let's now talk to. The expectations on

Kenya and the other countries identified is that they want to see

a better national anti-doping programme from the World Anti-Doping

Agency. As long as there is funding and the is available, there is

really no reason. -- and the expertise is available. This is a

great example of how the power of sport, as they say, to change lives

is working negatively. People can see sport as a route to be able to

bring money to their region, it is a way to get immediate success. They

are looking to doping as the routes to take them there. I don't think it

is a problem not having a laboratory, that is very expensive,

but certainly better quarter nation of testing, better education for the

athlete and the opportunity to root out anybody who seems to be pushing

doping as a solution onto vulnerable athletes who are just looking for a

way, in many respects, to bring some wealth to their area of the country.

We have seen that in the Commonwealth Games, we know we have

to make sure we have the right message going about sport and about

success in sport. Unfortunately, everything we are seeing happening,

with the amount of money being used within sport, probably suggests that

corruption will get you somewhere. Now the focus is on hold countries

rather than individuals, is it a turning point? -- on entire

countries rather than individuals? I would hope so, in weightlifting

there has been a number of positive tests and then the whole country is

banned. We are beginning to see the impact on the culture of sport in a

country, maybe even the culture of a sport, which is what has always

given as risk factors in or go -- order to target testing. It is

important that we do not just look at one single athlete but the

circumstances that have brought them to using doping substances and how

we address that. There needs to be a strong national programme but it

also needs independent oversight and the funding, sufficient funding.

This is not a cheap operation. For some governments it has to be a

decision that the country's most immediate concerns, then paying for

anti-doping. You can understand why this is not the easiest problem to

solve. Thank you both very much. With tumble dryers bursting into

flames and thousands of worried owners, our manufacturers taking the

problem seriously enough? Getting tetchy few have had any experience

of anything like that. -- get into her chin a few have had.

Internet memes based on photos of everyone from celebrities

to politicians are everywhere online.

But what if someone made a meme of your son comparing him to a pug?

Well, that happened to an American mother, and she fought back.

I was going through my phone on Facebook and one of the moms

in a group I'm in on Facebook, she posted it and said,

Within a couple of minutes people had tagged me in it and said,

It just didn't even resonate with me as even attempting to be funny.

I just didn't understand the intent behind someone that made that.

Every time we would finally get Facebook to take one down,

it's like within an hour somebody would send us a link

You click on the report button and you and you just report it

for whatever content you think it's being misused for,

I don't know that that is what necessarily takes

But when I looked into it more and I found the copyright claim,

every time I filled out the copyright form, that photo

was taken down usually within 24 hours.

People share stuff that engages them in some way.

Often times that engagement is something they makes them

And then a subset of that is engagement that's humorous

She enlisted friends, she enlisted people to spread

the meaning of, let's take these down, in a way that used the same

tool that spread the image to the service of removing the image.

I've had a lot of people reach out and say, "I didn't know

that was a real child in that photo and I saw your story on the news

and I want to thank you for sharing what he has and what it is about.

And I'm so sorry for posting that meme."

It's turned into something more than just distorting the photo

Now the latest weather update, it has been a mixed bag. If I'd ask you

a simple question, what has the winter been like so far, you would

say, mixed. If you made a shopping list of rain, wind, mild

say, mixed. If you made a shopping cold weather, snow, we've had a

door. Because of where we are in the world, mostly. Quite a unique

position. We've got the vast expanse of the continent, Europe and Asia,

sitting to the east. To the west we have the vast expanse of the

Atlantic Ocean. Whenever we get a south-westerly wind, it picks up a

lot of warmth and a lot of moisture from the ocean. This is kind of how

we started our winter. Unfortunately, as we've seen, it

brings us some very wet weather, flooding, and yet at the same time

it was mild. If we flip a coin, what will happen? Probably what you'd

expect. If the wind is coming from that used across the cold continent,

ten bridges in Siberia reach -30 degrees at this time of year, that

brings these wintry scenes. Cold weather. Often quite dry. All we

need is the to shift slightly and become north-easterly and that is

when we will get snow and scenes like this. We can take most things

off the shopping list so far. And what about the days ahead? I think

cold will be the big story in the next few days. It's chilly out

there, get used to it because there's more cold weather in the

next few days, for the rest of today quite a chilly feel, I am not sure

we will see really snowy scenes in many places although some places

especially northern Scotland, this cloud is producing snow and sleet

showers at low levels and some icy conditions. Further south showers

moving in across south-west England, sliding across the south coast, in

between, a fair amount of showers, if you are lucky you will get

sunshine, although not as much as people had yesterday. Let's take a

closer look at this afternoon, towards Aberdeenshire, here we will

see a couple of centimetres of snow in place even at low levels,

southern Scotland at this stage, a few from northern England, into the

Midland and Wales, we should see sunshine as well, more in the way of

cloud close to the south coast of England, some outbreaks of showers,

8 degrees in Plymouth, the winds in most places are fairly light. We

will see showers continuing across Northern Ireland, increasingly in

South eastern Scotland, and down to the south-west, different weather,

wet and windy, working its way in. That will hold temperatures up to 6

degrees. Where we see clear spells and elsewhere there will be patchy

frost and I is for tomorrow. Saturday morning starts ominously,

this area of low pressure looks as if it's going to move south so the

Channel islands will have a wet and windy day, some rain dripping into

southern England, South Wales, and on the northern edge of that, don't

be surprised to see snow over high ground. The snow showers continue to

work across South East Scotland, who we could see a few centimetres of

snow, elsewhere dry weather, cloud and St John, still a chilly feel and

the winds will be stronger tomorrow. Moving into Sunday, the wind

switches direction. Look at these Isa bars. By Sunday they will come

from the Arctic. By Sunday that will continue to plunge this cold air in

our directions on Sunday will certainly feel cold. This keen

North, north-easterly wind bringing showers to eastern coastal areas,

dry weather elsewhere, some cloud and sunshine, these are the best

tempered as we can expect, between four and 7 degrees, looking ahead to

next week when it will stay chilly ten bridges struggling in single

figures but at least we should see some sunshine.

Hello it's Friday, it's ten o'clock, I'm Joanna Gosling in for Victoria,

welcome to the programme if you've just joined us...coming

More than 40 years after the striking workers at Ford in Dhaka

and women are still fighting for equal pay. Now the government could

name and shame the worst employers. We have heard from some of the

people involved in that historic dispute. Our union said, the only

way you will get your rights and your skill recognised is by walking

out. We'll be debating the issue of equal

pay live in the next few minutes. More than one in three woman say

they've experience a controlling relationship - we'll be asking why

the problem of emotional abuse is so widespread and what

can be done about it. And hundreds of tumble dryers have

caught fire in homes. Now there's a call for new rules from any fracture

risk of potentially dangerous items. -- new rules for manufacturers of

potentially dangerous items. It's 10:04, the main

news this morning. The United States and Russia have

agreed to seek a truce in Syria The deal, reached at talks in Munich

last night, doesn't include a halt to the bombing of terror groups,

including so-called Islamic State. But there is an agreement on

delivering humanitarian aid. The main Syrian opposition delegation

says it could lead back to peace talks. We believe we have made

progress on both the humanitarian front and the cessation of

hostilities front. And these two fronts, this progress, has the

potential fully implemented, fully followed through, to be able to

change the daily lives of the Syrian people. TRANSLATION: Row we welcome

the effort our friends are making to release the Syrian people. We must

be for all Syrians. We must see action on the ground. If we see

action and limitations. The partner of the former EastEnders

actress, Syan Blake, has been arrested at Heathrow Airpot

on suspicion of murdering her Arthur Simpson-Kent

was detained after flying back The bodies of Syan Blake

and her sons were were found in the garden of their home

in south-east London in December. Some leading NHS chief executives

seem to distance themselves from the decision to impose a new contract on

junior doctors in England although they think it is a fair deal. Health

Secretary Jeremy Hunt has defended the imposition of the contract,

saying that stability in the NHS was needed.

Firms with more than 250 employees will have to publish any disparity

in the salaries of their male and female staff as part of efforts

New league tables will be published to name and shame companies who fail

One of Britain's biggest manufacturers - the engine maker,

Rolls Royce, has announced a fall in pre-tax profits from ?1.6 billion

Asian stockmarkets fell again - after big falls in Europe yesterday

- because of fears about the strength of banks.

Yesterday, the index of Britain's top companies fell to a three

But shares across Europe were up this morning after an overnight

More evidence of how Generation Rent is losing out -

that first-time buyers in England who buy a house this year

will already have spent an average of nearly ?53,000

That's according to research for a landlords' trade body.

The figure is set to hit over sixty four thousand pounds for those

Hugh joins us now with all the sport - and as we were discussing earlier,

Kenya have a lot to do if they're going to make

Yes, they could be banned from the Summer Olympics in Rio after they

missed a deadline to prove the country is tackling doping in

athletics. After a spate of positive tests officials have failed to

provide the World Anti-Doping Agency with proof that they are tackling

the cheats. They now have to bring in measures to deal with the issue.

The top athlete in the country is not implicated and his coach says it

is not widespread. I would not face. I don't have any evidence of

behaviour or talk the athletes to show that it is rife. Yet in a sense

it is there and we cannot hide our heads and say it is not around. And

of course, doping has the potential to spread. If you do not nip it in

the bird, you could have a major problem in terms of numbers. England

footballer Adam Johnson has been sacked by Sunderland after pleading

guilty to one count of sexual activity with a child and one charge

of grooming. The 28-year-old was initially dropped for the Premier

League match tomorrow against Manchester United although he had

his contract to minute and hours later. His trial will begin at

Bradford Crown Court today. He will face two further charges, which he

denies. England have made three changes to the side to face Italy in

the rugby union six Nations. In a poll comes in, Courtney Lawes for

Launchbury, and Ben Youngs fought poll comes in, Courtney Lawes for

Danny Care. England won the opener against Scotland last weekend and go

to Rome top of the table. Coach Eddie Jones said he wanted to give

Italy a good hiding! Something simpler happened in the Super League

last night, Salford Red Devils beating St Helens 44-10. Their first

win against St Helens in several years after a heavy defeat last

season, one player famously treated, I've had enough, and left early.

This time Salford scored eight tries and he waited until the end, saying

that he did not want the game to finish. England's cricketers are in

action today, Sarah Taylor's 100th one-day match did not start as

planned when she was out for a duck in their second one-day

international against South Africa in Centurion. England 132-4 short

time ago. The men have a chance to wrap up the one-day CDs in South

Africa today, they are leading 2-1 going into the fourth match out of

five in Johannesburg. Mark Cavendish is in pole position to win the tour

of Qatar for the second time. He is leading by two seconds going into

the final stage in Dohuk today. Chris Froome has told the BBC that

his priority this year is to win a third Tour de France title. He says

he would rather do that than win Olympic gold. He told the BBC that

the Tour de France was the holy grail of cycling. That is all for

now. All the headlines in half an hour. See you then. See you later.

Thank you. Thank you for joining us this

morning, welcome to the programme if you've just joined us,

we're on BBC 2 and the BBC We'll keep you up-to-date with the

latest stories. We have been talking about the gender pay gap and plans

by the government to make firms with more than 250 staff publishing the

differences in pay between male and female employees.

Earlier we had your comments, Nigel says, those ladies are two of the

ladies who changed society for the better, the impact is inestimable.

Another tweet says, so proud of them, and another Tweet points out

that revelation of pay is so taboo in the UK, there is this inequality

in all companies, same job or grade, different pay. Interesting to hear

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World powers have come to an agreement to stop

The agreement for a 'nationwide cessation

of hostilities' to begin in a week's time was made last night,

after talks in Germany between members

of the International Syrian Support Group which includes US,

But it won't apply to the battle against terror groups

The plan was announced by the American Secretary of State,

John Kerry, and his Russian counterpart Sergey Lavrov.

We believe we have made progress on the humanitarian front

and the cessation of hostilities front.

These two fronts, it has the potential,

fully followed through on, to be able to change the daily lives

Both John Kerry and Russia's foreign minister Sergei Lavrov admitted,

repeatedly, this was only progress on paper and the real test would be

getting Syria's warring factions to make the plan work on the ground.

TRANSLATION: As it is written in today's documents, we will work

together with the government, opposition groups, which are in

contact with us, and we hope that the US and those with interests in

the region and other participants in the support group will use their

influence on the relevant opposition group, so that they call operated

fully with the United Nations. We have a common determination to help

alleviate suffering of the Syrian people and we hope this will be a

shift. Some diplomats are already saying

the ceasefire deal is 'not worth Our Chief International

Correspondent Lyse Doucet The talks here in Munich

have been described But both Sergei Lavrov,

Russia's Foreign Minister, and US Secretary of State John Kerry

clearly believe that progress First of all, a cessation

of hostilities. This is not a ceasefire,

this is not an end of conflict. But over the next week all sides

are to make moves to try to agree the modalities of limiting

the violence in some areas. That, of course, will not include

the areas under the control of the so-called Islamic State

or the Al-Qaeda linked Nusra front, two very important

forces on the ground. And also, crucially,

it won't include Russia's bombing of what it describes

as terrorist targets, and what the West and Syria's

opposition forces have said include the parties fighting

against President Assad's forces. Secondly, what's said to be

the immediate delivery of badly needed humanitarian aid

to the besieged and hard to reach Le Rich t's get some

analysis on this now, lecturer in international

politics of the Middle East thank you for joining us. Even under

this plan, Russian bombing would carry on against al-Nusra around

Aleppo, as strikes would carry on against IS? Even if it was

implemented, would it make any difference? I think the ceasefire

reflects a deep of trend. -- deeper trend. There was a stalemate,

especially due to the military stalemate. The Guitoune the most

recent Russian -- but due to the most recent Russian intervention,

the ceasefire document seems to favour Russia and the Assad

Government in its attempt to suppress position. They are

emphasising, Sergei Lavrov and John Kerry, that this is just a paper

exercise and it has to be seen if it can be implemented on the ground.

What do you think? I think it very much depends on two things, how weak

militarily the opposition has become, if they will become too weak

to fight they will lay down their arms temporarily. Secondly the

degree to which the Assad regime and the Russians will continue their

offensive, especially in Aleppo. The wording that attacks on so-called

terrorist groups can continue leaves a very wide remit for military

attacks to continue. It depends on how the Russians and the Assad

Government interpret that clause. How do you read the diplomacy of

what is going on, with Russia clearly allied with the regime, with

that onslaught around Aleppo against al-Nusra, why do you think Russia

has put this forward now? It seems this is a continuation trend going

on for some time whereby Russia has been asserted health within the

Syrian conflict as the main external player together, of course, with the

Assad regime and Iran and Hezbollah. And the United States keeping a

distance, with the exception of the bombing of Isis. This is a

demonstration of the growing Russian influence in the conflict,

militarily and diplomatically. Dr Amnon Aran, thank you. We are

getting some breaking news from West Midlands Police, detectives hunting

the killer of a businessman shot in the neck at his Birmingham soft

drinks firm have arrested an 18-year-old man in Derby. West

Midlands Police say they have arrested an 18-year-old man in

Derby. We will bring you more on that as we get it.

Customers are ready to sue after hundreds of tumble dryers caught

fire in people's homes, but our manufacturers taking it seriously

enough? Do get in touch if you have had any problems with your tumble

dryer. Ministers are to force the UK's

biggest employers to publish more information about the difference

in pay between their male But employers are fiercely resisting

the changes saying that it's too crude a measure, and won't take

into account the many reasons why Latest figures show that women

in the UK still earn on average 20% We are on strike, all of us,

all of us machinists, anyway. It did used to make me feel

very annoyed, really. I mean, I worked as hard as them

and I've been working a long time. To think that they got more

money than me, you know, Everybody who works in Asda,

be it shop floor, canteen assistants, tills, I think

we all deserve the same rate of pay. We all work hard,

every single one of us. I can't see why we should be split

up and given a certain rate of pay We are going to require companies

under the regulations, companies with over 250 employees,

to publish the gender pay gap We as a government will then compile

those league tables. We don't think this policy

is going to be the silver bullet that is going to close the gender

pay gap in a generation. Sarah Churchman is Head of Diversity

at PwC which has been publishing its gender

pay for for two years. Jemima Olhawski is from

the Fawcett Society which campaigns Ben Southwood is from

the free-market think tank Thank you all for coming in. Jemima,

will making companies publish figures make a difference? This is

very important, we and other organisations have campaigned, it is

important that the Government has listened. Once there is transparency

and companies are forced to reflect on differences, that is the first

step to taking chin. The TUC is right that it is not a silver

bullet. We would like to see requirements around them is

publishing an action plan once they have identified a large gender pay

gap, and more done around companies who do not comply with the rules. At

the moment there is no penalty for not playing all, which is not fair

on the women who work for them and other companies who have done it

fairly. Is there a difference between -- does this not go against

the Equal Pay Act? It is illegal to pay two workers different for the

same work. But this is not the only reason. 80% of care workers are

women, that is one of the lowest paid jobs in the economy. Some of it

is because people get pushed out of work because they can't conform to

old-fashioned working models, they have unsympathetic employers who do

not allow them to work flexibly, sometimes it is because women's

talent is just not recognised by, often, their mail bosses, they do

not get the same promotion or pay in crease opportunities. Lots of that

is not illegal but it is damaging for those women and also the

businesses, they are not getting the most out of their workforce. Sarah,

your company has published its gender pay results for two years,

what has it shown? We publish the pay gap occurs we believe

transparency is important. We don't make products, our business is our

people, they delivered this and are our greatest asset. We want to do

right by them. We employed men, women, people from different

backgrounds. We have equal opportunities and we pay them the

same. We have done equal pay audits for the last ten years, what we have

found is that sometimes the driver of the differences completely

unintentional. In our organisation, one of the fundamental reasons for

the difference and the gap is because we have more men in senior

roles compared to women. We know that, and our strategy is about

bringing women through two more senior roles. The important thing is

that gender pay is just one data point, it does not tell the company

's story. We also publish information about our tomography,

how many men and women in senior roles and, as Jemima says, what are

we doing to bring in more women to reduce the gender pay gap at PwC. A

company like PwC auditing and publishing has been ahead of the

curve, what do you think about all police with more than 50 employees

being forced to do it? I agree a lot with what they have both said so

far. PwC's model seems a lot better than what the Government is forcing.

As Sarah said, they have looked at details about why men and women are

paid differently within the firm. I am not really somebody to say that

more data will be bad, but the Government might mislead more than

it helps. Looking at the mean and median, if men and women in the

firms are doing different jobs you will get strange results. It will

not show you whether the pay is fair, even whether the production

side, just whether they employ different kinds of people. That is

why I think the PwC approach, looking into more details of why

people are paid differently, is important. One important thing in

the regulations is that firms will be asked to publish the proportion

of women in different income quartiles, of the top 25%, how many

of those earners are women? Why not have to publish like-for-like? That

is exactly what the Fawcett Society has said, it would be good if there

was a full pay audit reflecting on who does what types of role, who is

and is not getting promoted. People within an organisation can happen

conscious bias is that mean they are not recognising the talented front

of them. -- can have unconscious biases. Overall, it is better to

take a big step forward to get firms in a mindset to reflect on it than

just to wait for more people to follow the fantastic example of PwC.

Sarah, your company has practised in this way for a long time, once it

started and the figures were published, how did people within the

company see it and did things change measurably? It was a big step

forward. Most organisations think they will be hit with discrimination

and equal pay claims. RX periods has only been positive, positive amongst

the people and positive externally -- our experience has only been. We

have been supporting other employers to be able to report. It has been

very positive, it is just one data point. The commentary read the

information is important, and being quite explicit about what you are

doing to address and close the gap. We have published for two years. The

gap when we published for the second time was slightly worse, that is

because we were making improvements in winning more women through to

senior roles, so as we promoted more women, they go into the next grade

at the lower end of the pay banding, so the overall effect is widened the

gap slightly. We need to publish more than one data point to give an

holistic picture. It is really important that we recognise that we

live in a deeply unequal society, it has been since business and time

began. When firms reflect on it they will often find there are

inequalities in the organisation. It is better to be open about that. I

admit that you have not got it right and move on and address it. This

admit that you have not got it right not an opportunity for organisations

like Fawcett to criticise them if they are going to make a change. In

the end, do you see the gender pay gap going completely? As we have

been discussing, it is a different argument from paid quality. If women

are choosing the particular jobs for whatever reason, working whatever

type forward have a reason, motherhood is a big factor, that

will not change? There is a lot we can do. Primarily women take time

after work to look after a child, there are big incentives in the way

that, for instance, maternity pay versus shared parental leave pay is

stripped. In other European countries they have a dedicated

leave period just for dads which is properly paid to reflect salaries,

then more dads take it and get involved in the business of raising

children at home, businesses are used at the fact that men as well as

women might take time out of work. That begins to change the perception

that women are a risk in an organisation. We can do more to make

sure women are getting a chance to move to the very top. Only five FTSE

100 chief executives are women. Clearly there are more than five

fantastic women in senior positions at FTSE 100 companies, but something

is not coming through. We could do more to speed that up. Fawcett says

perhaps it is looking at time limited use of quotas to create that

shift, so women can change the organisation more widely. How do you

see that? In Norway, where quotas have been implemented, you see a

rise to the level prescribed by the quotas in terms of more women on

boards, but you do not see knock-on effects, there does not seem to be a

cascade, we have realised women are good now, I think companies are

quite eager to employ women at top level positions. If you look at the

rate of women promoted to senior jobs relative to the rate of

application, women are promoted at higher levels than men. Women are

not putting themselves forward? They apply for top jobs less often than

men do, that is one of the reasons they do not rise to those positions.

Equally, women who never leave the workforce are more likely to be

promoted to CEO than men are. It just so happens that more women

leave the workforce at some time. That is not necessarily bad, there

are lots of valuable things in life that are not necessarily work. But

the gender wage gap is not as simple as it used to be. In the past it was

people being before the same work, now men and women do substantially

different jobs. The difference between Korea parts is wider in more

Agulla Terry and add liberal countries around the world. --

between Korea parts. It does seem that the gender pay gap a good

indicator, countries like Italy, which are seen as being more

discriminatory, having narrower gap than in the UK. At all points to the

fact that this is just one measure of this problem. It is the measure

that will be focused on? Could it lead to pay discrimination,

inequality? I don't think this could lead to

greater discrimination, I think more needs to be done. We know that the

equality and human rights commission did research last year that found

that every year 54,000 women had to leave their job early due to getting

pregnant or having a baby. That discrimination still happens and

affects women's lives. It is not about choice, it is about the way

you are treated when something changes in your life. We have

researched attitudes to inequality and people considered for these

positions seem less likely to say that they believe that men and women

should be equal. They are more likely to say that they think

women's rights have gone too far. So there is a lot we need to do in the

workplace. This helps get us in the space to do that if we worry about

the longer term issues around whether we can ever close it, we can

do much more, we can get much closer. Can I say one thing? I think

the fact that this is being publicised is really good. If more

women were really aware that they should talk about pay and ask

questions about their pay relative to their male peers is a good thing.

Thank you. One anonymous viewers says women should get equal pay for

equal jobs, we have this same problem with age inequality, why are

younger workers not entitled to the same wage as workers doing the same

job who are older? More discrimination which shouldn't be

allowed. Another viewers says that it has been illegal since 1972 have

a gender pay gap so why are other companies not find and white not

target all companies instead of only companies with over 250 staff, are

smaller, these are irrelevant? We talk to one woman about emotional

abuse. And tumble dryers have caught fire in hundreds of people's homes,

customers say they are ready to sue but manufactures taking the problem

seriously? The US and Russia have agreed

to a pause in hostilities in Syria that could take effect in a week -

but they're not calling The deal does not include a halt to

the bombing of terror groups like Islamic State but there is agreement

on humanitarian aid. The main Syrian opposition delegation says it could

lead back to peace talks. We welcome the effort our friends

are making to relieve the Syrian people and it must be for all

Syrians. We must see action on the ground. If we see action limitation

we will see very soon in Geneva. The partner of the former EastEnders

actress, Syan Blake, has been arrested at

Heathrow Airport, on suspicion of murdering her

and her two children. Arthur Simpson-Kent was detained

at Heathrow airport this morning The bodies of Syan Blake

and her sons were were found in the garden of their

London home in December. Some leading NHS chief executives

seem to be distancing themselves from the decision to impose

a new contract on junior doctors in England - even though

they think it's a fair deal. The Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt has

defended the imposition, saying stability in

the NHS was needed. Firms with more than 250 employees

will have to publish any disparity in the salaries of their male

and female staff as part of efforts There'll be new league tables

to name and shame companies who fail Asian stockmarkets fell again,

after big falls in Europe yesterday because of fears about

the strength of banks. Yesterday, the index of Britain's

top companies fell to a three But shares across Europe were up

this morning after an overnight More evidence of how generation

rent is losing out - new figures show that first-time

buyers in England who buy a house this year will already have spent

an average of nearly That's according to research

for a landlords' trade body. The figure is set to hit over sixty

four thousand pounds for those Kenya has listed at line to prove to

the World Anti-Doping Agency that it is tackling cheating in athletics.

It will be put on a watchlist of nations at risk of breaching

international codes. It now has two months to bring in new legislation

and funding. This programme has been told that the authorities in Kenya

have no excuse for failing to meet the deadline. This is one of the

great examples of how the power of sport, as they say, to change lives,

actually is working negatively, because people can see sport as a

route to be able to bring money to their region, it is a way to get

immediate success, so they are looking to doping as the route to

take them there. Let's catch up with all the sports news.

One Saracens forward has the chance to make his England debut, he is on

the bench for the game against Rome. There are three changes to the

line-up, Mako Vunipola, Courtney Lawes and Ben Youngs are all in the

side. Kenyan athletes could be banned from the Summer Olympics in

Rio after missing a deadline to prove Kenya is tackling doping in

athletics. They are now on a watchlist of the World Anti-Doping

Agency. England footballer Adam Johnson has been sacked by

Sunderland after pleading guilty to one count of sexual activity with a

child and one charge of grooming. His trial at Bradford Crown Court

starts today. Salford city Devils's owner said he didn't want the game

to finish as they beat St Helens the first time in 60 years and in doing

so scored eight tries! More sport on BBC news throughout the day.

Over a third of young women have experienced a controlling

relationship and one in 20 believe that it is normal to be afraid

of your partner, according to a poll commissioned by the charity Women's

Coercive control - otherwise known as emotional abuse -

has recently been made illegal, an offence punishable by up to five

However, psychologically controlling relationships are often harder

to identify than physical abuse by a partner.

We can now talk to Polly Neate, CEO of Women's Aid, Harry Fletcher

who campaigned for coercive behaviour to be made illegal

in the UK, and Chlo, 18, who's been the victim

Thank you for joining us. Polly, you are saying that a lot of women in

the UK have experienced a causative relationship. How do you define

that? What we are talking about is the repeated pattern of behaviour

that gradually, often gradually, controls the woman's everyday life.

It is about telling you where you can go, who you can see, cutting you

off from your friends and family and people who might provide you with

support or a way out of the relationship. Tracking online,

monitoring phone calls, wanting to nowhere you are every minute of the

day. -- wanting to nowhere you are. Behaviour in a way that limits the

freedom of the victim. And gradually eats away at her self esteem. It's a

very damaging form of abuse. When you say that more than one third of

young women have experienced a controlling relationship, have one

third of women experienced that level of caution? More than one

third of women say they have experienced control in a

relationship where they believe it is a problem. Where does the line

get drawn between someone being controlling and someone being

coercive? Is there a distinction. The law draws a line. What we are

saying today, and we are launching this website, Love don't feel bad,

saying it is important to spot the signs of a controlling relationship

and to understand what is and what is not healthy. Whether it falls

within a definition of a criminal offence or not. For it to be a crime

and has to be repeated and deliberate. And a serious impact on

the life of the victim has to be proved. Particularly for young girls

and young women who are specifically vulnerable to this. We want them to

be empowered to understand that control is not romantic. Keeping a

jealous watch over your partner because you love them so much, love

should not feel bad. That is why we launching campaign today. Polly

Chlo, your ex-boyfriend has been convicted of causing behaviour

towards you, what was the relationship like? It started off in

tense and romantic and got to a point where it was very many

political and controlling. He had a lot of control over what I would do.

He was always calling me names. Trying to make me feel bad, put me

down. He really sort of took over my whole life, controlling me. You say

that initially it was Chlo and romantic, was it obvious when it

changed laws and gradual? It was gradual. We broke up when I went

into hospital, because we had not even met at that point. It was an

online relationship? We met face to face later, and then he said I had

changed into a bad person, he could not love me like before, he could

not understand why any of my friends liked me, blaming me for him hurting

himself and self harming and wanting to kill himself. He was doing what

many perpetrators do in this kind of relationship, they pick on something

that they know makes you vulnerable. He knew that was a way to make me

feel bad, that I would feel guilty about breaking up with him and he

used that to get under my skin, ruin myself esteem. And once they start

doing that, and I was vulnerable, I could not recognise what he was

doing and I did not see it as abusive and I felt responsible. Did

your friends and family know what was going on? My mum knew a little

about and but it was difficult for her to stop the relationship.

Because they saw it all were you talking to them? Both, really. I

showed her messages he had sent me and I talked to her because I was so

frightened that he was going to hurt me. I was under his spell. I did not

want to leave him. I did not feel that I could because he was always

going to find a way to get back in touch. Creating new accounts,

calling me repeatedly, that sort of thing. Also I was quite isolated

from any of my friends so he could get quite jealous if I sought anyone

else or sent messages to somebody he didn't like. So I didn't really talk

to any of my friends about it. You stayed out of fear and not love. I

felt I was in love with him, that is often the case with young people

because it is your first relationship, you do not know what

love should look like, so this campaign is brilliant, from Women's

Aid, because people need educating about what a loving healthy

relationship looks like. There's quite a fine line between that sort

of fear and loving someone especially in that kind of

controlling relationship. Harry, you helped create the law banning

coercive relationships. Where is the gap? It only came into effect in

December. Chlo has described it magnificently and bravely, what

happened to her. It goes back to when I was working with the

probation service, the police only seemed to act if there was physical

violence. They did not recognise psychological control like the type

that has just been described, they did not recognise that it was

totally unacceptable. The probation service works with both the

perpetrators and victims. The staff were increasingly saying to me, this

is not acceptable. A woman will experience 30 incidents before she

reported to the police. Last year there were 350,000 incidents

reported to the police. Only 6% or 7% resulted in a conviction so

something is clearly wrong. After months of looking at the issues and

looking at what was going on in the United States, they concluded that

they needed to be a fresh offence of psychological abuse and they started

working with MPs of all parties to change the law. The law was changed

in a remarkably short period of time because I think that politicians

from all areas of the spectrum recognised that something was wrong.

It was not acceptable. The law was passed, I think it was in April 20

15. Just before the general election. And it came into effect at

the end of December. We asked ministers not to implement it

straightaway because the police and prosecutors needed training.

Do you know if any prosecutions are being brought? There are two

pending. We have found in our survey that a lot of young women do not

understand coercive control. It has not been an offence for very long.

We had to take this possibility for spreading the word and making sure

that society is sending a large message by this law that this is not

acceptable and we will not put up with this. We need to empower people

will to recognise coercive control and know that it is not acceptable.

People have been getting into edge, Dave says it seems to focus on

women, it probably happens mostly to women but it happens to men, it

happened to me. Here's right, the majority of victims are women but

men can also be big and is. Like any law, the law applies to everybody

regardless of gender. With men it is more likely to be reputational

damage rather than to self-esteem? And the physical violence and

retribution for Breaking Bad control is less likely with men. But, again,

they can be victims -- for breaking that control. Chlo described really

articulately how she went into a situation that went from something

romantic and intends to something that is clearly damaging her and

unacceptable. No relationship would start out as abusive or people would

not get into them. What advice would you give to people? You are saying

that love does not feel bad, what are the red flags at the start of a

relationship? I think part of the problem is that in popular culture,

not only now but for generations we have remarked to sidestep some of

this obsessively jealous or verging on controlling behaviour. It can be

very difficult to recognise. I think it's somebody is cutting you off

from people who are really important to you, for example, the knitting

your freedom to see, confide in and have a relationship with friends and

family that really matter to you, that is not a loving thing for them

to be doing -- limiting your freedom. If somebody... They should

not need to store and monitor your movements, text messages and e-mails

to trust you. Trust means not having to monitor a person to believe them.

Those sorts of things, on their own they may not be a criminal offence,

we are trying to say that it is really ported to recognise as early

as possible the signs of a coercive and controlling relationship. I

would say anybody worried about this should look at the website, it has

young people talking about their experience of control in a way that

young people will be able to understand. It is at

lovedon'tfeelbad.co.uk. It will help people understand the law and that

everybody has the right to freedom and happiness in a relationship.

It's somebody deprives you of that, that is not a loving relationship.

What would you say to your younger self, Chlo? It is about recognising

the early warning signs, knowing that this is not a loving

relationship, it is not OK, and even if it feels like it does, they can

feel like they do because they can flip back to being nice, but of

something like that is happening to you, it is not your fault, however

much they twisted to make it feel like it is. It is not your fault. If

you can speak to someone and try to get help, you will be believed and

there will be help out there. Relationships can be a lot better

than that. For you, you have come through a relationship like that,

what is the impact, have you managed to shed its or is it still a part of

you and the way you feel about yourself? It will definitely stay

with me, and does stay with me. It went on for three years. For some

people it is longer. As a teenager you are quite vulnerable to that

sort of thing and it has a big impact on your self-esteem and

stuff. But, I think, being able to speak out, raise awareness and try

to help other young people recognise the warning signs, making people

realise it is not their fault, that has really helped me. Thank you very

much, Chlo, Polly and Harry. Another text, emotional abuse is as bad as

physical abuse, it destroys your self-worth and is easily mistaken

for love. The Retail Ombudsman is calling

for an urgent change to the law on product recall, after a spate

of potentially deadly It comes as new figures reveal

firefighters attend almost one blaze a day caused by the

appliances catching fire. Thousands of owners are waiting

repairs to be carried out following a major product alert

by Whirlpool in November on five million of its Hotpoint,

Indesit and Creda brands sold However, it has not

issued a product recall. Whirlpool says it's carrying out

3,500 repairs everyday. Any incident relating to fire,

we take incredibly seriously. What we know is that in the 11 years

over which these tumble dryers have been produced, there

have been 750 fires. So that's out of a potential

5.3 million machines. And what we also know is that,

as a result of the 750 fires, there have been three injury

incidents, two of which related to smoke inhalation,

and the third one was a burn. The retail ombudsman says the speed

at which appliances are being repaired as too slow and

manufacturers need to do more. The problems with these Whirlpool

appliances is not consumer led, it is not because of misuse, it is

because of inherent faults with the machine so, yes, people have to be

responsible with electrical appliances, we know they can be

prone to fire, that the manufacturers had to get it right.

And when they don't, they have to very quickly get out to the public,

tell them of the problem and deal with it.

With me are Martyn Allen, who is from the charity

We can also speak to mum of two Lorraine Ward who lost everyone

in house fire three years ago caused by a faulty Beko tumble dryer,

and Steve Emmerson in Newcastle who has a faulty hotpoint tumble

dryer and has been waiting since November for it to be fixed.

Thank you all for joining us. Lorraine, first of all, absolutely

devastating, of course. What happened? It was early Sunday

morning in January 2013, my husband had got up to take turns with our

six-week-old daughter and he had that the tumble dryer on at around

8am. Went into the living room to play with the children and sort the

baby out and within ten minutes the electric went off. Not unusual, it

was a very snowy walk -- morning so we did not think anything of it.

Within a few minutes you could smell burning. He went into the kitchen,

open the door and that is when smoke was billowing out, you could see two

foot flames literally flying out of the tumble dryer. To clarify, you

lost everything, not everyone, luckily you all got out OK. How do

you feel now about the fact that there are lots of stories about

tumble dryer issues? It is really frightening to think that anybody

could go through that. It is just not something you expect when you

buy these new products, you think your world could literally change

within a matter of minutes. Martin, you are in touch with people who are

affected, tell us what your experiences have been and the

stories you are hearing? Many people have contacted us, since November we

have had around 90,000 people contacting ourselves and visiting

the website whether there appliances have a week or -- have a recall.

People who are concerned, they have read about it in the media, friends

have told them so they have contacted the website to see if any

of their products have been recalled. Many customers have these

appliances and are still unaware. Steve, you are waiting for repairs,

you have been since November. Have you been unable to use your tumble

dryer all that time? Mine is in desert, not Hotpoint. I wrote Pate

-- I reported it in the beginning of November two Indesit to check

whether it was affected. I got an e-mail shortly afterwards saying it

would be modified by the end of January, now it is February and

nobody has been in touch about repair or replacing it. So you said

you reported it to them, they did not get into a Jew? I had to

reported to them. -- they did not get in touch with you? I reported it

to them to sort out this modification. If people are

reluctantly having to check out their machines, it relies on them

doing it? Manufacturers simply do not know where their product. Often

appliances come with the registration card, many of the

questions are often to do with extended warranty, not safety, it

might just be marketing information related, so people, like myself am a

do not fill them in. We would call for the card to be simplified to

make it clear you are registering for safety purposes and marketing

should be separate. What is the issue, is it the same technical

fault applying to tumble dryers, whichever company? With the tumble

drier case from the Hotpoint style of things, it has been the design

flaw from 2004 to 2015, why did it take so long to highlight this

problem? They need sort the design out -- needed to sort the design out

much earlier. All electrical appliances carry some degree of

risk, they are predominantly safe but occasionally things go wrong. It

is a two manufacturers to react quickly, but the consequences are

seriously. Lorraine, was there any indication of any concern with the

tumble dryer before the fire? Not at all, I used to tell everybody how

much I loved it, it was all singing and dancing, when it's finished it

would keep the cycle going every now and again so things did not crease,

I loved it. Do you know what the issue was? A faulty heating

capacitor that had got too hot. Thank you all, Martin, Lorraine and

Steve. We have had a statement from Whirlpool who say that the safety of

customers is their number one priority and consumers can continue

using their dryers until the modification has been made. If a

consumer registers today we will he in contact within ten weeks to

provide an estimated date for an engineer to visit. We have

experienced some delays in reply and given the large amount of dryers

affected, we apologise. You would advise everyone to check out online

whether there might be an issue with their model? Any appliances, people

can check whether any appliances have been subject to a recall. This

case in particular, we have encourage people to not use their

appliance egos of the cases we have seen. Thank you. Thank you for your

company today. Have a lovely weekend. See you soon.

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