26/02/2016 Victoria Derbyshire

I'm Joanna Gosling in for Victoria, welcome to the programme.

Mired in scandal after scandal with allegations of bungs

and bribery - football's world governing body Fifa will elect

This is the scene live in Zurich as Fifa's extraordinary congress

begins - we'll take you there shortly.

Three brothers who sexually abused teenage girls in Rotherham over

a period of 15 years will be sentenced this morning.

We speak to one victim who tells us she they controlled her life.

Tackling homophobia, racism and sexism on campus -

why some universities are banning debate.

I was banned from Manchester for having the wrong opinions as a gay

man, I think. I was supposed to talk about this feminism have a problem

with free speech, and both sides of the debate were banned. They did not

want the discussion to be had. Welcome to the programme,

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or our website bbc.co.uk/victoria. They're one of the biggest,

richest and most important sporting bodies in the world and today Fifa,

who are effectively in charge of world football, will

get a new president. Their motto is "for the game -

for the world". But following allegation

after allegation of bribery and corruption their reputation has

been severely tarnished. Elections take place

today to find a new man - and it will be a man -

to become the new president of Fifa. That man will replace Sepp Blatter

who stood down as the corruption crisis threatened to bring

down the organisation. This is the scene live in Zurich

as the special congress to elect The two front runners,

Sheikh Salman and Gianni Infantino, are both claiming they have over

100 pledges of support, Voters have a choice of five

contenders. The frontrunner is Sheikh Salman from Bahrain, the head

of Asian football. He has been a member of Fifa's ruling executive

committee since 2013 and is the bookmakers favourite. His big idea

is to split Fifa in two, the business side would deal with the

commercial issues and handle all the money.

It is to stop executives making self-interested decisions and,

as has been seen recently, putting the hand in the Fifa piggybank.

He is not without his issues: he has been accused of human rights abuses

related to the pro-democracy demonstrations in Bahrain four years

The uprising was part of the Arab Spring,

Specifically, he is accused of heading a committee

which identified footballers that took part in the demonstrations.

He says the committee was never formally constituted,

These are false, nasty lies that have been repeated again and again.

People are talking about a committee, identifying players etc.

Do you think that people would need to identify a national team player?

Do I need to get involved in that? It's like asking the FA or the chair

of the FA to come, please, can you identify David Beckham Steven

Gerrard? He may be out in front,

but this man, Gianni Infantino, In fact, he has big momentum,

he believes that he can win. He is one of the leading figures

at Uefa, the European Federation, and is positioning himself

as someone that the world can trust. First of all, if somebody has stolen

money, he has to go to jail. That is clear for me, so I applaud all the

investigations by public authorities who are acting in this respect. When

it comes to the running of football, this is our job. We have to show we

can deserve it. He only looked to stand after his boss, Michel

Platini, was charged by the ethics committee for taking ?1.3 million

from seven latter. The genie says he owned the money, it is legitimate,

but they have both been banned for eight years.

Infantino support from Europe and South America, part of his pitch

is to expand the World Cup to 40 teams, ensuring more smaller nations

can participate and ultimately he thinks he can turn Fifa around.

Critics say that he is Michel Platini's man.

More to the point, there is plans to massively expand

Questions remain about where the money comes

Next up, Prince Ali bin al-Hussein, brother of the King of Jordan,

He thinks this is the federation's last chance to get it right.

He knows all about fighting Fifa elections, he lost

against Sepp Blatter last May, but he is by getting significant

Lets go, Fifa! This time around, he thinks he can win. It is the last

chance to save the organisation and to get it back in the right shape,

and to focus on my real goal, total development of football around the

world. This time Europe are

backing Gianni Infantino. still win, but many point

to the fact that Sheikh Selman has the support of the home

continent of Ali, and the more realistic role may

see him play kingmaker, choosing between Sheikh Salman

and Gianni Infantino after the first On policy, he would like to

quadruple the amount that member believing it will

increase sustainability. He also wants the money properly

accounted for. former political prisoner,

who spent time in jail with Nelson Mandela

during the apartheid era South He is currently the Fifa envoy

to Israel and Palestine. He wants to make a difference

but he failed to get the support of African football leaders

and he has been criticised that has led many to question

whether he can even make it The final candidate,

Jerome Champagne. The Frenchman believes that he can

do better than many people expect. He is a former adviser

to Sepp Blatter. He was forced out of Fifa

after a series of disagreements. His knowledge of world football

and power broking is beyond doubt, turning that into votes

can be the tricky part. He has defended Sepp Blatter's

record in the past, leaving many to question how close

he is to the deposed Fifa president. Jerome Champagne insist that

Sepp Blatter did many good things, like making sure smaller nations

were well-financed and protected, especially given the huge wealth

and power in European football. Large sections of the vote have

already been divided up among national and regional lines,

the swing states of the Caribbean Candidates are now going all out

to secure backing as they attempt With us now to chew the fat on this

is Deborah Wise Unger from Transparency International,

who worked with Fifa on its anti-corruption

policies back in 2011, and Gerry Sutcliffe,

the former Labour Sports Minister who was involved in the England

2018 World Cup bid. Thank you both for joining us.

Deborah, is Fifa on the right path to redemption? I think it is too

soon to say. The reform package that will be more important than the

presidential election could help, it is in the right direction, but I

think it is too soon to say that redemption is there. What would you

like to see in the reform package? It does not go far enough for you?

No, it does not have any independent oversight. Transparency

International has always said that Fifa is so tarnished, the world does

not trust it, it needs to have independent expert, people of high

renown, to oversee the reform process. That is not on the table up

a moment. Both Gerry Sutcliffe, the world does not trust Fifa, Debra

says, would you agree? Yes, but you can't scrap it and start again, it

has to operate from within. But with transparency and openness, as

Deborah says. We need a reform package that means people can regain

the trust not just from the fans but everyone involved in football. Will

it go far enough if there is no independent oversight? Whoever wins,

and I favour in -- in fancy know, has to start the process of ringing

in a transparent and open project so that people are confident whether it

is a World Cup bid or the development of football, it is being

done properly. There is a mechanism which needs to be in place so that

people can see what has taken place. Why Gianni Infantino for you? He is

well known in European football, he has a good track record, he can

deliver the goods. Alongside this is the police investigations, the

judicial investigations. There is a long way to go. Who do you want to

see? Out of the five, is to see who would do it without independent

oversight. They have different problems, Infantino is too close to

Platini, Salman comes from an autocratic kingdom, Champagne owes a

lot about football but also has links to Blatter. I don't think any

of them is a clean broom. Prince Ali has endorsed the idea of an

independent oversight, he has got a team together. He said Kofi Anand,

the former UN Secretary General, could run that team and see fever

through the reform. We believe that would be a good idea -- C Fifa

through the reform. One of the real problems is that Fifa has really

lost the trust of the fans. We did a survey, 69% said they had lost trust

in Fifa, but 50% said that Fifa could restore its reputation. There

is hope, if it is the right things. Gerry says you can't scrap it and

start again? It would be difficult, he is right. At the moment it is

trying hard to maintain its status as a victim in the FBI

investigations and allegations and insight. We don't know what the

Swiss investigation which is ongoing will bring. If it continues to be a

victim, it itself will not face prosecution. The Swiss have the

authority to come in and scrap it, but they need a really good reason

to do that will stop I think Jerry has a point, how you take away the

reform body that runs world food ball and replace it with something

else, you would put something in pretty much the same strip show.

Gerry, every football fan has a view on what should be done. Why is it so

difficult, how has it come to this? It has been a long, unhappy

existence over the last ten years or so. If you scrap it, where do you

bring in people who know the game? A balance has to be struck where

people who know the game work alongside independent people who can

be transparent. Loads of people know the game, why is it so difficult to

find the right people? You say that, but administrators RA special breed

in working out how a game can develop. The International Olympic

Committee had to revitalise itself over a period of years. Revamp the

organisation, independent transparency, but a small step

forward will be the new president today. Lots of people are getting in

touch on social media, Trevor on Facebook says scrap the whole

corrupt organisation, Peter says all the candidates what the money to be

accounted for, says it all, want to eat, Fifa is for the game, for the

money. But you have individual food all associations which Fifa is made

up from, if you scrap did you would have to go through the national

games, it would take too long. We need something to happen quickly to

regain trust in football. One thing would be to have all the senior

people list that acid and interests. Then you would see if they were

enriching themselves. That is basic. Absolutely basic, but nothing in the

statutes says they had to do that, nothing in the new statutes they are

voting on today, either. But we said if you list your acid and interest

is, at the end of your stay at Fifa you would be able to see they had

enriched themselves through the job, unfairly, through corruption.

Transparency International worked with Fifa on anti-corruption

policies in 2011, what was that with? It didn't get anywhere? In the

beginning, we were enthusiastic, they wanted a thin, looked at our

reform package and said it was interesting, then they announced

their own set of reforms which they were going to control. They said, we

don't want to look into the past, and we all know what happened in the

past. Now we know why they did not want to looking good, it was mired

in corruption and scandal. We backed off and said unless you want to do

it with real independence and openness, we do not want to be a

part. From the outset, openness, we do not want to be a

offered advice, criticism and ideas along the way. The reform package

has many of the basic standard good governance ideas in it. It is

implementation, how will they do it? Thank you both very much, Deborah

and Jerry. The Congress is ongoing. We will have more coverage through

Still to come. reform and the new president.

Three brothers who sexually abused teenage girls in Rotherham over

a period of 15 years will be sentenced this morning.

We speak to one victim who tells us they controlled her life.

Is a brain drain of teachers contributing to a shortage of

teaching talent in the UK? We hear from one teacher who has made the

move abroad. Football's world governing body,

Fifa, will elect a new president today to replace Sepp Blatter,

who stood down amid a corruption More than 200 delegates

will make their choice The two front runners

are Sheikh Salman of the Asian Football Confederation

and Uefa's Gianni Infantino. Michael Howard is backing the

campaign to leave the EU. He was previously a mental to David

Cameron, helping him to become party leader. George Osborne has warned

that leaving the EU would cause an economic shock.

Three brothers who subjected teenage girls to years of rape,

violence and prostitution in Rotherham will be sentenced today.

Arshid, Basharat and Bannaras Hussain will be sentenced

It comes after a series of women, most now in their 30s,

told a jury how they were sexually, physically and emotionally abused

The Metropolitan Police has announced that Operation Elveden,

which investigated illegal payments to public officials, has ended.

In a statement, Scotland Yard described Elveden, which cost almost

?15 million, as one of the most difficult and complex investigations

US Republican presidential contender Donald Trump has faced a barrage

of attacks from his two main rivals during a television debate.

Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz questioned Mr Trump's

They're fighting to stop Trump from running away

with the nomination in the Super Tuesday state primaries.

Let's catch up with all the sport now and join Ore, and news

of a teenager's dream debut for Manchester United.

We will round things up. We will talk a bit about an 18-year-old man

called Marcus Rushford. He had a night to remember for Manchester

United, he was not supposed to be playing in their Europa League

match, before an injury to Anthony Martial got him parachuted in 20

minutes before kick-off. He changed the game. It was poised at 1-1 on

the night, with Manchester United heading out on away goals, before he

scored twice on his debut. He becomes their youngest scorer in

Europe. It ended up being 5-1 on the night, 6-3 on aggregate, but it

could have been very different. We will tell you all you need to know

about him. Tottenham also through, as are Liverpool. The draw for the

last 16 is today at midday. There is a chance of an all English game. We

will talk about the six Nations, that comes back tonight, France

against Wales in Cardiff, and we will get boxing as well. A nice

variety. We will leave Fifa to you. Three brothers who sexually abused

teenage girls in Rotherham over a period of 15 years will be

sentenced this morning. The Hussain brothers were convicted

on Wednesday after victims came forward to tell of how they'd been

raped, beaten and trafficked. This comes nearly 30 years

after the abuse started. It's the first conviction

since it was revealed that 1,400 children had been groomed

and abused in the town. We can speak now to a victim,

who was groomed by one of the men being sentenced today,

Arshin Hussain. We're calling her Jessica

to protect her identity. How do you feel head of the

sentencing? It has been a long journey. I feel and chess, because

it is my first time going to court since I gave evidence. They are all

going to be there. I am feeling confident about the sentencing. Tell

us about how old you were when you first met him and how things

unfolded from there. I met him when I had just turned 14, I was in some

local shops with friends, he approached me and my friend. I

previously knew his brother. He seemed very charming, funny, kind.

We spent two years together straightaway. He mentally, sexually

and physically abused the. I was made pregnant twice by him. The

violence did not start straightaway. It was later on. Did you have to

have six with other people? What happened? No, he never trafficked me

to other men. I was abused by him. You said that initially it was fine

and then things changed, what happened? At first he came across

and he spent so much time talking to me, getting to know me, always paint

me, comments, telling me I was beautiful, the boys my age never did

that. The attention was nice. I never saw myself as a victim until

three years ago. I always thought he was my boyfriend. But then he

started to become controlling, he was beating me on a daily basis, he

completely isolated me from my family and friends and it got to the

point where I felt I had nowhere else to run, he was the only person

in my world. I only had him. Did you ever go to anyone in authority and

try to get help? Yes, I made my first statement at 16, because I

recognised the violence, I just did not recognise the sexual and mental

abuse. At 15 I got put into foster care by my parents, they could not

cope with what was going on, they thought I would be safer, but the

authorities said to him, as long as he picks me up at the top of the

street and I am home by 10pm, he can have access to me. It got worse when

I was in care, because he could have contact at any time. Before, my

family said that it was not OK. How did you feel? You had gone to

somebody to help, you said what was happening, nothing changed. Well, it

got worse. Did you feel you were not being listened to? I was never

treated as a victim. I was treated as equal, I was called a mistress, a

little criminal. When you have a majority of people treating queue

that way, it makes it so much harder to recognise yourself as a victim.

When I look back, the amount of failings from the police and the

council, it is so shocking and so hard to put it into words. It is

horrendous. We will let you go, I know you want to get into court for

the sentencing. Thank you for talking to us. There is evidence

that authorities at the time failed to do anything. It was not until a

journalist at the Times heard of the abuse and run with the story that

the police investigation was launched. We could speak to that

journalist now. Talk us through when you first heard about the issues in

Rotherham and how long it took for it to unfold and for the issue to be

taken seriously. I started researching what we thought was a

hidden pattern of groups of men around the north and the Midlands

grooming and targeting young white teenage girls in the autumn of 2011

we published our first story in January 2011. It accused the

authorities across Britain of being involved in a conspiracy of silence

about what was going on. Within a week, I had a call from a Rotherham

grandfather who wanted to talk about what had happened to his

granddaughter. For the Times newspaper it has been a long time

coming. Not as long as it has been coming for some of the young girls

who had their childhood stolen. It was when you took a call from the

woman, the girl as she was, who we have just spoken to, who we called

Jessica, you told her story in the paper and that was when a human

voice was put to this story. Was that a changing point? It was

completely the changing point. We had carried on telling the story of

what the authorities knew and had failed to act upon. In September

2012 a brave whistle-blower handed me more than 200 confidential

documents. That laid bare a history in this town that for more than ten

years groups of men had been able to target, groom, pimp and trafficked

children. They had done so with virtual impunity and there was

overwhelming evidence to show that social services and police knew the

names of the girls, the men, their cars, where they were taking them,

and they failed to do anything about it. Despite the weight of evidence,

South Yorkshire Police remained in complete denial, they insisted they

were leading the way in tackling such crimes nationally. The

Rotherham Council social services, instead of working out what had gone

wrong, they ordered an internal enquiry to find the source of the

leak. That reaction was so staggering to us, we carried on, and

in the summer of 2013 a message was left on my phone from a young woman

who sounded very nervous, you have just heard her speak to you now, it

was the telling of her story and the decision which was unprecedented in

my 27 years as a journalist to name on our front page the man, to accuse

him of being a serial abuser of children, multiple children, at a

time when he had not even been questioned, let alone charged or

convicted. It was that story, the brave young woman, Jessica, which

tipped the balance, because on the same day she gave her first filmed

interview to the police on the very first day of what became operation R

two clover. It has resulted in the men being sentenced today. Within 12

days of that article, Rotherham council is finally bowed to

overwhelming public pressure and commissioned the independent enquiry

that became the enquiry which created worldwide headlines 12

months later, when it found that 1400 girls had been abused over 16

years. Do you believe if you had not have been contacted in the first

place by that grandfather who gave you a dossier, that this would not

have emerged in the way that it has? I genuinely do believe that, because

it was not as though there was nobody trying to raise the alarm ten

or 15 years ago. There were very dedicated people, but not at the top

of any of those organisations, who were writing reports, providing

intelligence briefings, saying something needs to be done. Nobody

wanted to listen. Finally, in desperation, when all else failed,

they turned to a journalist. In some ways, I would argue that it is a

good thing that we have a free press in this country and investigative

journalism can uncover something like this. In another way, a chain

is our country that it took a newspaper to show child protection

authorities what they ought to have known all along. We will bring you

details of the sentencing when it is announced in court.

The former Conservative leader Michael Howard has announced he'll

back the campaign to leave the European Union.

Lord Howard helped David Cameron become leader in 2005.

Meanwhile, the Chancellor George Osborne has warned a vote to leave

would lead to a profound economic shock.

Tell us what George Osbourne has been saying. He has been talking

about the central claim of his side of the argument, the central case

they make for remaining in the EU, which is in large part about the

economy and risk. He is at the G20 in China, getting together with

other finance ministers, discussing the state of the global economy and

making the case that if we were to leave now, it would be a huge risk.

While that is going on there, back at home we have Michael Howard, the

man who used to run his party, who gave him a helpful promotion,

setting him up to be the team that ran for the leadership in 2005, he

hired David Cameron as a political aide. He has been explaining why he

disagrees with David Cameron. Michael Howard, then the leader, and

why he thinks Britain should vote to leave.

If the leaders of Europe were actually faced with a British vote

to leave, I think they would think again. We would be sorely missed if

we did leave the European Union, and I think that, just as they have

dinner for, they have form with Denmark and Ireland, I think there

is a chance, not a certainty, that they would come and say, let's talk

some more. That takes explaining, he is

effectively arguing to vote to leave the EU because it might encourage

other countries to come back to Britain with a better deal, then we

could have another referendum and a better arrangement than the one

David Cameron managed to negotiate. The Prime Minister was utterly

withering about that point of view on Monday in the House of Commons.

We thought he had killed it off as an argument, but I think Michael

Howard has given it new life. George Osborne in China was making the

opposite case, an argument about the economy and about risk, this is what

he said. You have seen the value of the pound

fall, it reminds us all that this is not some political parlour game, it

is about people's jobs and their livelihoods and their living

standards. In my judgment as Chancellor, leaving the EU would

represent a profound economic shock for our country, for all of us, and

I will do everything I can to prevent that. You could be forgiven

for feeling slightly befuddled. It feels like there are headlines every

morning are another rather Celia, old, politician coming out to tell

us which way we should vote on Europe. You might wonder of the

impact of that on the public, and you would be right. Michael Howard

was my great impact will be significant, he is very respected by

a lot of MPs, regarded not just as the man who helped to get Cameron

his job but helps revive the party after being smashed to smithereens

by Tony Blair time and time again. What none of them have any certainty

about is how any of this debate is registering with the public, and it

may be a long time, weeks, possibly months, before we get any feeling of

that, before how we know whether any of this carefully choreographed

arguing is affecting opinions at all.

Thank you. Police in the American state of Kansas say four people

including a gunman have been killed in a series of shootings. 14 people

were injured in the attacks, which took place at several locations. The

suspected attacker is suspected to be an employee of a lawn mower

factory in Houston, where he was finally shot dead by police.

The first report that we have had was that a man had been shot in the

shoulder, driving a truck. Then there was another report at Meridian

and Heston leg of somebody shot in the leg, then the reports of a

shooting in a parking lot and then report to be shooting inside the

factory. It is not the leaves to be linked to terrorism. Witnesses

described scenes of panic. I saw people running, I assumed fire. I

took a few steps and heard a pop, pop, I thought it was paint cans

going up. Then there was more popping, I started running. The

doors opened, people were screaming, coming out, saying, go to the front,

then somebody said, he is out front, people started going to the back

over here. They were yelling fire, we took off running. Everybody was

coming outside, as soon as we got out there were gunshot and this one

guy got shot in the leg and was walking, he was shot four times.

Four other people I know got shot. It was horrible. One person I know

died. It is just horrible. The guy had an AK-47 and a pistol, is what I

heard. The worst day at work ever. The incredible tale of long lost

sisters who spent 35 years looking for each other, only to discover

they had been playing online bingo together for eight years.

A brain drain of teachers is contributing to a shortage

of teaching talent in the UK, that's the warning from

England's Chief Inspector of Schools, Sir Michael Wilshaw.

He says growing numbers are leaving to work abroad,

and that more must be done to keep teachers working

He explained why he thought this was becoming a problem.

Because of the huge growth of independent schools abroad,

sponsored and franchised by the big public schools over here,

we have seen a rapid growth over the last few years.

Two years ago there were just over 20 of the schools in places

like Dubai and Abu Dhabi and places in the Far East,

They are taking our trained teachers from over here, and the rapid growth

that we are seeing has been built on the teachers that we are training

here, at a great cost to our state system.

And as I go about the country and talk to head teachers,

and as Her Majesty's inspectors do, they have a real problem,

particularly in secondary, in attracting high-quality people

to teach subjects like physics and maths and other science subjects.

I strongly suggested in my paper today that if the taxpayer is paying

huge amounts of money for training teachers and for paying

off their grants, ?20,000 to ?30,000 is what the Government

is paying at the moment, there should be a moral

commitment and, if necessary, a contractual commitment for these

teachers to stay here for a period of time and teach in this country

Ofsted says that last year more teachers left England to work

overseas than actually qualified through post-graduate training.

Let's speak now to Jessica Ferguson-Thomas.

She's a primary-school teacher who moved to Abu Dhabi in 2013.

She now works for a company called Teaching Abroad Direct.

Why did you decide to move abroad to teach?

It was the excessive workloads, working way into the evenings,

hardly any time to spend with my family, so me and my husband, also a

teacher, decided to look at what opportunities where available

abroad. How long did it take you to make the decision? Well, we decided

in March and we moved out in the August. It is the best thing we ever

did. It doesn't sound like you agonised over it for a long time? We

didn't. A sickly, we were both at a crunch point, we would either leave

teaching in the UK or try to teach abroad. It was now or never. We are

both pleased we did, we both love teaching, fundamentally, but it was

the workload and the time pressure getting us down. Teachers always

talk about their workload, was it not something you were aware of when

you took the decision to train as a teacher and go into the profession?

I was aware of it, I'm quite a hard-working person, but it is so

much harder than you ever told, and it is the long days and the working

into the evening, and you are not a teacher, you are an admin person, it

is all the paperwork. It is a lot worse than you would ever imagine.

Sir Michael Wilshaw has been saying that it is important to recognise

the nobility of teaching and to talk up teaching as a profession that can

transform lives. Is that something that you see, did you feel that you

were going into a profession that would transform lives? Absolutely.

That is one of the main reasons you become a teacher, you want to make a

difference and you want to be that important person in a child peers

life, but in England you get so swamped down with everything else

that it is hard to remember that. Which is why abroad, when the

pressure is a bit less and you have more of a home life yourself, you

can really focus on the child. What about the suggestion that because

the taxpayer is paying huge amounts of money to train teachers, there

should be a moral and possibly even contractual commitment for teachers

when they are qualified to stay and teach in this country. To be honest,

I agree that if it is ?30,000, which physics teachers will be getting in

September, they should stay. I got less than ?2000, I was travelling 80

miles a day so it did not even cover the petrol, so after working in

England for two years as a teacher, I felt I had paid my bit back. Tell

us what it is like teaching in Abu Dhabi? It is very different, the

pressure is less, the admin is less, you are allowed to be more creative

and free as a teacher and you can focus more on your job. The children

are more at the centre of it rather than a box ticking exercise, which

in England it often is. It is a bit more relaxed, which makes it a lot

easier to be a good and an outstanding teacher. Do you see

lessons that could be drawn from that system and applied here? Yeah.

To be honest, the main thing is to get rid of a lot of the paperwork,

or take it from the teachers' responsibility. All the admin that

goes with it, it does not need to be the teacher's responsibility. You

could employ somebody else to do all the paperwork bets. In Abu Dhabi and

other countries, the most important bit is teaching, which is what it

should be, rather than all the bits that come in the evening. Could

anything lure you back to being a teacher in this country again? No,

he and my husbands have both said we don't plan to... Obviously things

change, I don't want to say never, it is not in our plan. The world is

a big place, as Michael Wilshaw said there are lots of schools, the world

is our oyster. What do your friends and family think of you going? Do

you know any of the teachers who have looked at your experience and

said, maybe we will do the same? Absolutely, I have three or four

friends that since they have moved out here, I have a friend living in

Dubai who was my PGCE student in England, I also have two of my

friends who used to live next door is living at yellow. It is a domino

effect, they see on social media how happy we are, how much easier it is,

they are coming. Unless England makes big changes to the education

system, like I said, it is the admin and the paperwork, unless they can

manage that it will carry on going. Thank you very much, Jessica. Carol

has got on the chagrin touch on Twitter and has said Ofsted should

join the dots, vacuous testing, draining morale, no wonder there is

brain drain. Ted Cruz Marco Rubio have crashed --

clashed with Donald Trump at the last debate for the Republican

presidential candidate before super Tuesday.

If he hadn't inherited $200 million, do you know where he would be?

Selling watches! Cheering. That is so wrong. You are all talk and no

action. This guy is a joke artist, this guy is a liar. You have a

combination of factors. He can't do it for the obvious reason and he can

do it because he doesn't know how to tell the truth. Other than that, I

rest my case. Donald, you can get back on your mates. I am having fun,

I had to say. -- Donald, you can get back on your meds. You are a basket

case. Don't get nervous. Nothing about you makes anyone know this.

That was entertaining. Still to come, is there increasing censorship

on University campuses, and why are some universities banning debate? We

have spoken to both sides. Let's get the latest weather

update with Chris Fawkes. Good morning. We are talking

tornadoes, there has been a big outbreak across the United States on

Wednesday evening. We have some pictures of the damage they caused.

They went across eight different states. What even is that? Is that a

building or a train? And flooding as well, tornadoes reported across a

different states. It is quite unusual for tornadoes this early in

the season. You can get the ingredients at any time of the yet,

but 65 reported on Wednesday evening with widespread damage. Do you know

how they measured the wind speed? Has that a guess? I don't know! They

look at the damage in the pictures and work-out, if the building has

been flattened, that is the wind speed that would do that. The

strongest tornadoes we got from this outbreak were in Florida, in

Pensacola near the Florida Panhandle, they were estimated as EF

three on the scale, which equates to 155 mph. That is why the buildings

were threatened. So interesting, I had never thought about that.

In the UK, you will be pleased to year there is nothing like that on

the way this weekend. That we have a change in the winter that will bring

cold easterly air Alloway. You will certainly notice the chill in the

hour through the weekend. Those tornadoes are caused by this weather

system. The storms are working across the East Coast into the

Virginias. Even parts of New England had a tornado, pretty unusual that

far north. Along the satellite pig we have a developing weather system,

an area of low pressure. -- on the satellite picture. Much cloudier

compared to the last few days. That said, the cloud will be thin in The

Times to allow limited brighter spells. There could be rain to parts

of western Cornwall, it looks like it will slide in through the

afternoon. There will probably be showers around in Northern Ireland

but, that aside, most of the weather for most of the day will be dry with

a reasonable amount of brightness in Scotland, four or 5 degrees. Showers

through Antrim and down, lots of dry weather for Northern Ireland. Most

of the rate will stay on the border in Ireland. England and Wales

staying cloudy, temperatures between five and eight. Sebastian in showers

brushing the Sussex coastline, the general rain is getting into West

Cornwall. Apart from that, lots of dry weather today.

Overnight, patchy cloud for Northern Ireland, England and Wales, that

cloud keeping temperatures around one degree Celsius in the

countryside. Further north, with breaks in the cloud across Northern

Ireland and Scotland, a frost is setting in. Where we see showers by

day there is the risk of icy stretches developing on untreated

roads and services. The low pressure is in charge over

the weekend, easterly winds on Saturday, cold across southern

parts, then this high pressure builds on across the north of the

country, settling the winds down on Sunday. This is how it looks for the

weekend, a cold wind blowing for southern parts of England and seven

Wales, a mainly dry prospect through the weekend, but there was also the

prospect of one wintry showers across eastern areas bought in by

the cold winds. A chilly day for England and Wales,

quite a bit of cloud around, white cloudy story for Northern Ireland,

the best of the century and further north across northern and central

areas of Scotland, looking at highs of around 5 degrees, 88 on the

monitor in London but feeling much colder when you factor in that

chilly easterly wind. Little changes on Sunday, a build-up of pressure

sending the winds down into a more north-easterly direction, not

exactly a one day, cloud around, if you like the sunshine, the best

place to see that will be across parts of north-west England and

western areas of Scotland. The weekend foremost, looking but pretty

chilly. Hello, it's Friday February

26th, it's 10am. I'm Joanna Gosling in for

Victoria Derbyshire. Welcome to the programme

if you've just joined us. Mired in scandal after scandal

with allegations of bungs and bribery - football's world

governing body Fifa will elect This is the scene live in Zurich at

the Congress gets under way, we will take you there shortly.

Tackling homophobia, racism and sexism on campus -

why some universities are banning debate.

I was banned from Manchester for having the wrong opinions as a gay

man. I was supposed to talk about feminism having a problem with free

speech, and both sides of the debate were banned, they did not want the

discussion to be had. They were nicknamed the "terrible

twins" by other players. We'll be speaking to the two

long-lost sisters who were reunited online by their mutual

love of bingo. Football's world governing body,

Fifa, will elect a new president today to replace Sepp Blatter,

who stood down amid a corruption More than 200 delegates

will make their choice The two front runners

are Sheikh Salman of the Asian Football Confederation

and Uefa's Gianni Infantino. Former Tory leader Michael Howard

is backing the campaign Lord Howard was previously

a mentor to David Cameron, Meanwhile, Chancellor George Osborne

has warned that leaving the EU A French court clears the way

to demolish part of the migrant camp known as the Jungle,

in the northern port of Calais. What is happening there? We

understand there are authorities walking around the camp behind me,

talking to the migrants, beginning the persuasion, trying to get them

to leave so they can slowly disband this area. The authorities said they

would not force anybody to leave. They would persuade them. The

process has already begun. They have three options, to take up room in

the housing containers in the northern section of the camp, there

are 300 spaces left, they could take a bus to take them to some of the

other purpose-built migrant containers across France, and the

preferred option is for them to claim asylum in France. They prefer

that because they don't want situations like this to be springing

up in other areas across the North Coast. 95% of the migrants I have

spoken to are still set on trying to reach Britain. They may go to

Dunkirk or try to get into Belgium and attempt to get into Britain via

a different avenue. Some might decide it is too difficult and

possibly head home. Charities have not reacted kindly to the decision

made yesterday, they said even though they said they would not

force people to leave, leaving some of the main structures, the church

and the school and the youth centre, even though they would not be taken

down, it would segregate the community, with everybody having to

live on this side of the campus, there would be a gap to those

centres and it would destroy the sense of community. The decision not

going down well with many of the people involved.

Three brothers who subjected teenage girls to years of rape,

violence and prostitution in Rotherham will be sentenced today.

Arshid, Basharat and Bannaras Hussain will be sentenced

It comes after a series of women, most now in their 30s,

told a jury how they were sexually, physically and emotionally abused

The Metropolitan Police has announced that Operation Elveden,

which investigated allegations of illegal payments to public

In a statement, Scotland Yard described Elveden, which cost almost

?15 million, as one of the most difficult and complex investigations

The US presidential contender Donald Trump has faced a barrage

of attacks from his two main Republican rivals

Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz questioned Mr Trump's

They're fighting to stop the outspoken billionaire

from surging ahead in the primary contests to select

Let's catch up with all the sport now and join Ore and news

of a teenager's dream debut for Manchester United.

Good morning. Alan Hansen said you cannot win anything with kids, but

if he needed reminding how wrong it was, he got it last night.

Marcus Rashford arrived at Old Trafford last night just

celebrating being on the bench for Manchester United's senior side

But moments before kick-off, that turned into a place

Replacing Frenchman Anthony Martial, who was injured in the warm-up,

Rashford definitely made the most of his debut,

with two goals to turn their Europa League tie against FC

A 5-1 win on the night meant United cruised into the last 16,

but it could've been very different were it not for the 18-year-old.

I have said already a lot of times that is fantastic, but you have to

be consistent. We are looking for consistent striker 's. There are not

so many on this earth. But he made a great performance, I think.

He became United's youngest European goal scorer at 18 years and 117

days, beating Brian Kidd's 48-year record.

He was top scorer in their under-18s side last season, scoring 13 goals

Only the second player to score while making his debut

Rashford joined Manchester United from youth side Fletcher Moss

Danny Welbeck has earned 33 caps for England so far.

Before him, Wes Brown, who spent 15 years at United and won

And of the current crops of players, Tyler Blackett, Jesse Lingard

and Cameron Borthwick-Jackson all began their footballing life

in Didsbury at Fletcher Moss Rangers.

Marcus attended our soccer school. We knew he had developed quite

quickly. He was ahead of his years. Manchester United persuaded him that

that would be the right club for him. Very talented youngster, even

at six years of age. Well, United are one of three

English clubs awaiting today's They were joined by Liverpool,

who beat Augsburg, and Tottenham, convincing winners over Italian side

Fiorentina after a 3-0 win The draw takes place

at midday today. The Six Nations returns

tonight after a week off. Wales and France meet in Cardiff

with both sides unbeaten Wales, though, have won their last

four matches against the French, including a famous 27-6 win,

also on a Friday night, We have all been working hard to get

the title back in Wales. Even though we have had a couple of years, we

have realised it is difficult in the six Nations. We want to get another

title under our belt. We still have a great chance this year.

I would have loved to have told you about the tussle in Manchester

between Scott Quigg and conference, but we haven't got time!

It sounds like something we want to hear about, so maybe later!

Join us on the BBC News channel later.

Thank you for joining us this morning, welcome to the programme

We're on BBC Two and the BBC News Channel until 11am.

We will keep you across the latest stories. A reaction about a warning

from the Chief Inspector of Schools in England, who says a brain drain

of teachers is contributing to a shortage of teaching talent in the

UK. Derek has e-mailed to say, it is wrong for teachers to learn their

trade here at our expense and then go and work abroad. They should be

tied to a contract that they cannot work elsewhere until they have done

at least five years over here. Joan says, it seems like the teachers are

getting the same deal as nurses, but a bit more pay. Holly says, Michael

Wilshaw, rather than forcing teachers to stay, why not reflect on

why they are leaving? If you want to add your voice to the debate, get in

touch. You can get in touch in the usual

ways, use the hashtag #VictoriaLive. If you text, you will be charged

at the standard network rate. Wherever you are you can

watch our programme online via the BBC News app or our website,

bbc.co.uk/victoria. They're one of the biggest,

richest and most important sporting bodies in the world, and today Fifa,

who are effectively in charge of world football, will

get a new president. Their motto is, for

the game, for the world. But following allegation

after allegation of bribery and corruption, their reputation has

been severely tarnished. Elections take place

today to find a new man, and it will be a man,

to become the new President of Fifa. That man will replace Sepp Blatter,

who stood down as the corruption crisis threatened to bring

the organisation down. He and Michel Platini were banned

over a payment between them. Voters will vote for his replacement and

the possibility of reforms. This was the hotel wake-up call

nobody at Fifa expected. Seven officials arrested in dawn

raids at their hotel on the banks I thank you that you accepted me,

that for the next four years I will be in command

of this boat called Fifa, Today, in a dramatic

statement from Zurich, TRANSLATION: While I have a mandate

from the membership, I do not feel that I have a mandate

from the entire world of football. Game over, Sepp Blatter finally

shown the door after his 17-year The president kicked out

of the sport along with the man who had been viewed as his likely

successor, the Uefa chief Michel A run-through of the downfall of

Sepp Blatter. Let's go live to see Rick where the voters taking place,

Katie Gornall is there. -- let's go live to Zurich. How much pressure is

there on Fifa for this to be a fresh start? They were given a reminder of

how much pressure there is on Fifa in his conference just about half an

hour road... Go, when the general secretary revealed their financial

dealings and said they were $550 million down on projections for

2015, eco-sponsors have deserted them in droves in the wake of the

scandal which has dogged Fifa, and they have had to pay legal bills

through the corruption allegations. This is what the package of reforms

is designed to address. Soon the delegates will votes on that, we

expected to go through with a 75% majority. It is to make Fifa more

transparent and accountable, although some question weather they

go far enough. Then we break for lunch and the delegates will come

back into this conference hall on the outskirts of the city to decide

who will be the face of the supposedly reformed Fifa. Five

candidates were going to replace Sepp Blatter, two front runners,

Gianni Infantino, formerly of Uefa, Europe 's choice, but against Sheikh

Salman, head of the Asian federation. He is seen as the

favourite but is controversial because he has been forced to deny

allegations of human rights abuses in the build-up to this campaign and

there would be comments from the wider footballing world if he was

appointed stop the boat backwards takes place later this afternoon,

207 eligible countries can vote, one country, one vote, silicone due with

the Cayman Islands which has 57,000 people would have the same weight as

a footballing superpower like Brazil with over 250 million people. But

there are some who feel that just because there is a change at the top

does not necessarily mean there will be a change of culture at Fifa.

Thank you, Katie. Joining me now is Michael Hershman,

a former member of Fifa's independent governance committee,

which made a series of reform recommendations to Fifa back

in 2013, and Emanuel Medeiros, former CEO of the European

Professional Football Leagues, who's now boss at the European

branch of the International Centre for Sport Security, an organisation

set up to fight corruption in sport. Thank you both for joining us.

Michael, do you see this as potentially a fresh start? You would

hope so, but I think it will take more than passing a few reforms. I

don't think the reforms go far enough, in fact. Leadership is

important, but the change in culture will take many years, not only out

of Zurich, Fifa headquarters, but the changing culture among the many

federations the changing culture among the many

do you see it, Emanuel? I share Michael 's view. Leadership is

important, an organisation whose role is to govern world football

cannot go without strong leadership, strategic vision, reforming spirit,

but it is more than the man who leads the organisation. To have a

new culture where good governance and integrity is priority number

one, you need to tackle wider problems which are very complex,

increasingly sophisticated, with a global dimension, often including

criminal infiltration. You need a true cocktail of measures for that

to have an effect of culture, a new attitude and mentality not just in

football but the wider sport. That depends not only on Fifa all who

will lead Fifa after today, in this defining moment in history for Fifa

and football it also depends on the active constructive engagement of

the whole sporting industry, including governments, including

sponsors, which was mentioned a while ago, deserting Fifa after

months of Fifa 's name being dragged through the mud, being at the lowest

ever level. You need to bring an independent, global, neutral

platform where other stakeholders can assist sports to overcome these

unprecedented challenges. It is not on the horizon, is it? Do UC it

happening? I see it happening, there are encouraging signs. We have

facilitated for the first time ever the joint union forces between

leaders in sport, government, international authorities, also from

business, academia, NGOs like other cells. There is a true commitment to

say, enough is enough, to use first -- best practice, to foster higher

standards in terms of governance and integrity, to assist sports in

tackling these problems. It is not just about Fifa, who is leading it

or how it is governed, it involves other areas such as the transfer

market and the financial transactions it allows, it involves

club ownership, whose gaps, I think, are evident, it involves prevention

of situations related to money-laundering and tax evasion,

which are visible, not to mention other problems mentioned by the

media. It requires an holistic global approach to solve global Rob

Evans. Michael, do you agree that it goes much further than expecting

Fifa to change and make the difference? -- global approach to so

-- solve global problems. Yes, but we must know that the real

stakeholders are the fans, Transparency International, and NGO

out of Berlin, did a survey. These fans, by a total of about 70%, said

they had lost faith in Fifa. Most disturbingly, 43% of the fund said

they had lost the joy from football because of the scandal. It will take

a lot to recover from that sort of fan abuse. Fifa has been about

money, power, influence, it has not really been about what is best for

the fans. Michael and Emanuel, thank you very much. Let us know what you

think about that as well, all the usual ways of getting into edge. --

getting in touch. Last month students

at the London School of Economics set up a free speech society

in response to what they say is increasing censorship

on university campuses. Today in what they describe

as an ironic move students are voting on whether

the society should be banned. It's the latest in an on-going

debate over free speech at universities -

the use of safe spaces, The National Union of Students has

told us it has to listen to people who find some opinions threatening -

and some students argue that safe spaces are in place to make sure

all students have a voice. Catrin Nye has been talking to those

on both sides of the debate. Universities are places of debate,

challenging ideas, and expansion But they are also places

where minorities can feel safe. Not judged in a way

they may be elsewhere. These two ideals are causing

conflict on campus In the form of safe spaces, no platforming,

and accusations of censorship. Today, lots of free speech advocates

and some of their opponents have come together for an event called

the New Intolerance on campus. People have conflated casual sexual

assault and racist abuse directed towards individuals

with expressions of ideals. What happened in Manchester

with Germaine Greer, it was hypothetically

that her presence on campus Depending on who you are,

what is going on on university campuses at the moment

looks very different. Students are increasingly "no

platforming" controversial speakers and erecting safe spaces

in which you cannot They are even banning

newspapers, lads magazines, Mexican hats, pop songs,

anything that these sensitive creatures find offensive,

they are banning. So safe spaces are spaces

where students and all people can come together, to have discussion

and debate without feeling In some cases whole unions may be

a designated safe space. Not necessarily but there would be

safe space policies. To my mind, it is a censorious

space, it forbids you from expressing discriminatory,

homophobic, racist ideas, Surely people should not be

expressing homophobic Some people oppose gay marriage,

from a religious perspective, and student unions would describe

that as "homophobic speech", which is not allowed

inside a safe space. That to me is an example

explicit censorship. LGBTQIA students do not need to hear

in their union homophobic views Jewish students do not need to hear

anti-Semitic views to understand This is about having the debate

in a way which allows them to feel The National Union of Students has

an official no platform list. They have told us they have

to listen to students who find some On top of that list,

individual unions and student groups Some recent decisions have

caused a stir. Feminist writer Julie Bendall

was barred from speaking at the University of Manchester's

union, they said her views on trans people would incite hatred

and breach their safe space policy. I was banned from Manchester

for having the wrong opinions as a gay man,

I think... I was supposed to talk about "does

feminism have a problem Both sides of the debate

were banned, they did not even want An NUS rep refused to share

a platform with gay rights activist Peter Tatchell,

a decision that is still An ex-Muslim and vocal critic

of Islam, this is a talk At Goldsmiths I was allowed to speak

but the Islamic Society tried to intimidate the audience,

tried to disrupt the meeting. Do you understand the need

for a safe space policy? As somebody who is a minority

within a minority, an ex-Muslim and a migrant, I understand very

well the concept of safe spaces. If anything, we are the ones

who are unsafe and the Islamists who were threatening us

for criticising us for questioning In an atmosphere where Islamophobia

is a problem, is it not understandable that people do not

want someone on a stage, in a place where they want to feel

safe, criticising Islam in the way You have to make a distinction

between attacking people Throughout history, criticism

of religion has been an integral In protest at what he sees as campus

censorship, this student, Charlie Parker, has set up a free

speech society at LSE, some students are currently trying

to ban it. Hello, are you all right,

how are you doing. The rugby team you were suspended

from playing for handing out sexist leaflets, it is one of a number

of acts that he sees as a crackdown There was a banning of T-shirts,

a couple of years ago, which depicted Jesus and Muhammad,

it is ludicrous to think that students are being told

what they can and cannot wear. Free speech has always been

there to help and protect minorities, if you look at gay

rights movements, civil rights movements, feminism,

all the great social progression, made possible through the use

of freedom of expression. Did you not think the best way

to tackle homophobia and sexism on campus would be to tackle it

with debate and discussion as opposed to banning it

and avoiding it? No; I am a Jew, I believe that

if somebody puts forward Nazi views and propaganda they

should be banned. A lot of the time, these horrible

views are often the things that trigger debate

which are so important. If that is able to happen,

the problem is, sometimes they do not necessarily

listen to the criticism. What is your opinion,

do you understand why We are not trying to limit free

speech, it is a specific space set up so that you can have discussions

that do not get derailed by people trying to put forward their own

agenda or saying things that can be If somebody says, don't say that

because it is hateful or offensive, I do not feel my free

speech is taken away, Save space in theory

is important but in practice, it can be just a space where people

come and simply agree with each other, and it can feel intimidating

in ways if you don't know the lingo and you do not understand the kind

of rhetoric that goes The problem that free speech has

is when policies like safe spaces begin to use the censorship

as a means of protecting minorities. When a speaker is not able

to speak at a university, as has been the case, that does not

mean they cannot speak. Of course they can,

but it is the principle Suddenly they begin to dictate

what all students can and cannot say, because safe spaces demand

tolerance, and in itself, it seems like a very

intolerant thing. Last year, Tommy Robinson, the head

of the English Defence League, was interviewed by

the student newspaper. The year before that,

George Galloway did a talk Many believe him to

be a rape apologist. Freedom of expression

here is thriving. We will let any become

here and speak. He thinks safe spaces

are needed in some cases, to allow minority

voices to be heard. Public institutions in the UK have

been dominated by white straight men for a long time, whether

that is politics, media, the judiciary, in the UK we have 12

Supreme Court judges, We have some problems when it comes

to structural barriers If women and if ethnic minority

students on campuses want to self organise to help to overcome some

of the barriers they face, Can you see the need for a place,

a safe space, where anyone from any background can feel comfortable

and confident to express their views, when there may not have

been able to before? They say that because black students

have not had the same capacity to express themselves

in others that might have, therefore we must mirror that

discrepancy on campus, by creating a safe space

especially for them, I get that question all of the time,

I am a white man, I refuse to judge When we talk about some of this,

it is interesting to see people who talk about not being able

to have their voices heard, they're very quickly able

to have their voices heard everywhere, it is simply not

the case that they are banned or censored, it is whether they are

invited to a student Or uninvited because of protest,

which has happened. In some cases, yes, and this

is about student unions, Do you have the right to decide

what is happening at a place where you are at a long time ago

and may have changed and improved? I do, one of the things I did

campaign against no platform. no platform was only used

against racists and Zionists. We argued that if you censored those

groups, there is nothing to stop the censorious logic from spreading

and encapsulating more and more people, that is exactly

what happened, throughout the 1990s, religious fundamentalists were no

platformed, in some universities banned Eminem, on the basis

that his music is homophobic. Once you accept the idea that some

thoughts are just too dangerous to have in public life,

then there is nothing to stop other There are elements of my education

where I have felt uncomfortable. Most of us would be able to draw

a distinction between times when we felt uncomfortable and times

when we felt threatened. Some opinions are

threatening for people. And we have to be able to listen

to that view as well. Still to come before 11am.The

incredible tale of long-lost sisters who spent 35 years looking for each

other only to discover they'd been playing online bingo

together for eight years. I will talk to them in a few

moments. Fifa delegates have passed a package

of reforms to fight against corruption.

Football's world governing body Fifa will elect a new president today

to replace Sepp Blatter, who stood down last year

More than 200 delegates will make their choice

The two front runners are Sheikh Salman of

the Asia Football Confederation and Uefa's Gianni Infantino.

Former Tory leader Michael Howard is backing the campaign

Lord Howard was previously a mentor to David Cameron,

Meanwhile, Chancellor George Osborne has warned that leaving the EU

would cause a profound economic shock.

Three brothers who subjected teenage girls to rate, violence and teenage

prosecution -- prostitution in Rotherham will be sentenced today

after a series of women, most now in their 30s, told a jury how they were

sexually, physically and emotionally abused during their early teens.

Let's catch up with all the sport now and join Ore

Let's bring you up to date with the sporting stories,

18-year-old Marcus Rashford had a Manchester United debut

to remember, scoring twice in the Europa League against FC

Mitdjtylland as United won 5-1 on the night to progress to the last

Tottenham's victory over Fiorentina saw them through to the next round,

they are joined in the draw by Manchester United and Liverpool, who

beat Augsburg. Wales's unbeaten six Nations record will come under real

threat to night from France. They won their two opening matches. They

meet in Cardiff at the championship returned from a week off. Italy

against Scotland and England against Ireland tomorrow.

I promised squabbling boxes. Scott Quigg and Carl Frampton meet

tomorrow. Carl Frampton is not happy that Scott Quigg will have the best

dressing room at the Manchester Arena.

This is my arena, I and the home fighter, I want the home dressing

room. That is it. It is the star of the show's dressing room. It is my

dressing room. This is embarrassing. He could not even sell his ticket.

That is nonsense, you know it is. Let's hope they can take their

handbags into the ring! The UK hasn't had much luck recently

when it comes to the Eurovision Song In fact, it's nearly 20 years

since the UK last won the contest, But could our luck

be about to change? This year there are big

changes to the jury system, meaning each country

will deliver their jury vote and all the public votes will be

merged into the result. Organisers say it'll make

the competition fairer and more So who will be representing

the UK this year? Mel Giedroyc will host a special

programme on BBC Four later tonight giving you the chance to pick

the act that will represent us. Let's have a look at some

of those in the running. # When you go, I can't

see in the dark. # You shine a little light,

shine a little light on me. # Hold on to me and

I'll hold on to you. # I won't let go, I won't

let go until tomorrow. # You're not alone,

we're in this together. # All that you want

is ready forever. So is there a winner

among that group? Well, let's talk this

and the new judging rules with two people that know better than most

what it's like to be part - Candice McKenzie, was in the UK

Eurovision jury in 2014, and Lee Ryan, from the boy band

Blue, who came 11th back in 2011 You said you like to, but you are

not allowed to say it on there, because this is like a proper

election, you cannot influence people watching, everybody decides

to nine. What do you think about the fact that the public can vote? It is

good. It is amazing that England keeps trying. We have to keep

trying! The UK have produced some amazing pop acts that have

influenced music around the world and still continues to do so. Your

revision is the biggest song composition in the world, we should

be up there, and it is a shame we are not. Is there an obvious for

Miller that we are missing? Either that or nobody likes up -- as in

Europe! I am joking! There is a structure that goes into it.

Hopefully, one of these songs will do it, fingers crossed. You know

about the internal workings, because you were one of the juror 's, tell

us how that worked. How did you get picked? I was sent an e-mail, asking

me if I would like to be part of it, in 2014. I thought it was a great

opportunity. Because you have a particular background? Or as a

representative member of the public? I have worked in the music industry

for almost 18 years. You got the e-mail, presumably it was quite

exciting? How did it work? We had to go to the BBC centre in White city.

We judged the performances, the dress rehearsals, the semifinal

twice, that was on a Tuesday and Thursday, and our votes got

carry-forward. We did not vote in the final, we just watched it like

everybody else. The weighting of your vote is interesting. When the

public vote came through for you, you were in fifth place. Yes, and

the jury voted us at 22. So we finished at 11. That year, the jury

had just come in. We would have been number five in the system. This

could influence the public to vote when they see at first, I don't know

exactly how they will do it. Will it be like Strickler come dancing when

you hold up the card? Just looking at you there, your moment at

Eurovision... We cannot hear it, I was hoping we could. What did you

think about more people power from now on, hopefully? It is good, and

the new way of voting will encourage people to watch it to the end,

because what I find is, with the old system, you can work out who is

going to win by a certain point, because you can see how many points

other countries are getting, and once a country has quite a high

school, you can tell who will win, whereas with this way, the results

from the public will be shown with the country that has the least score

first, and you will only find out who the overall winner is at the

end, so you have to stay to the end to find out who will win. What was

it like when you were waiting to see how the voting pans out? It was like

a blur, a dream. It is such a massive competition. We did the

competition and some people said we should not have done it, whether it

was good for us or not. It was good to represent our country, but we

were so nervous. At the same time, so much good came out of it, so much

great coverage. Whoever represents us this year, it will be amazing for

their careers and they will have an amazing time no matter where they

come. Let's hope this is our moment! And you can listen to the songs

on the shortlist again and find out more about the six acts on our

website, bbc.co.uk/eurovision. And the programme Eurovision:

You Decide is on BBC Four this That is when you get to have your

say. England's Chief Inspector of Schools

says a "brain drain" of teachers is leading to a shortage

of talent in the UK. Sir Michael Wilshaw says growing

numbers of teachers are leaving to work abroad - and that more must

be done to keep them working You've been getting

in touch this morning. Tweet from Craig, "Teachers

and doctors should be contracted to repay all costs for training

before they leave the UK." Anonymous text, "Need to look at why

so many teachers are moving abroad and work hard to increase

the retention rate rather than tying The exodus is a symptom

of an unrealistic workload, improve that and you won't have

to force us to stay!" Well, earlier I spoke

to Jessica Ferguson-Thomas, she's a primary school teacher

who moved to Abu Dhabi in 2013. I asked her why she made

the decision to move. It was the excessive workloads,

working way into the evenings, hardly any time to spend

with my family, so me and my husband, who is also

a teacher, decided to look at what opportunities

where available abroad. How long did it take

you to make the decision? Well, we decided in March

and we moved out in the August. It doesn't sound like you agonised

over it for a long time? Basically, we were both at a crunch

point, we would either leave teaching in the UK or

try to teach abroad. We are both pleased we did,

we both love teaching, fundamentally, but it was

the workload and the time pressure was it not something you were aware

of when you took the decision to train as a teacher and go

into the profession? I was aware of it, I'm quite

a hard-working person, but it is so much harder

than you're ever told, and it is the long days and then

working into the evening, and you are not a teacher,

you are an admin person, It is a lot worse than

you would ever imagine. Sir Michael Wilshaw has been saying

that it is important to recognise the nobility of teaching and to talk

up teaching as a profession that Is that something that you see,

did you feel that you were going into a profession that

would transform lives? That is one of the main reasons

you become a teacher, you want to make a difference

and you want to be that important person in a child's life,

but in England you get so swamped down with everything else

that it is hard to remember that. Which is why abroad,

when the pressure is a bit less and you have more of a home life

yourself, you can really focus What about the suggestion that

because the taxpayer is paying huge amounts of money to train teachers,

there should be a moral and possibly even contractual commitment

for teachers when they are qualified To be honest, I agree

that if it is ?30,000, which physics teachers will be

getting in September, I got less than ?2000,

I was travelling 80 miles a day to get to the school

where I was placed so it did not even cover the petrol,

so after working in England for two years as a teacher,I felt

I had paid my bit back. Let us know your thoughts on

teachers going abroad. But now an astonishing story for you. It is

about Elaine Walker and Jackie Green. They were separated when the

lane was adopted when she was weeks old. For 35 years, Elaine, who lives

in Cleadon, search for Jackie, who lives in Croydon, without any

success. Jackie did not know Elaine existed. An incredible coincidence

brought them together, it turns out they had been framed Democrat

friends online without even knowing it. It is an amazing story.

Elaine, you knew that Jackie was out there? I knew she was out there, she

didn't know about me. I had in 35 years of searching and just kept

hitting dead ends and dead ends. What did you know about Jackie? All

I knew was her Christian name and her maiden name, but there were gaps

in the records when we tried searching. I couldn't find her. I

knew she had been married but didn't know her married name, things like

that. As I say, I hate to dead ends, I was coming up against brick wall

after brick wall. -- I hit dead ends. Until last year, an elder

brother of ours died. He died interstate. One of these are hunter

companies got in touch with us and accidentally let slip Jackie 's

surname. And amazingly, even at that point, you didn't twig that Jackie,

who you knew online, effectively, someone you had... You had

nicknames, you had been playing bingo online for eight years and you

did not know each other's real names? I was Dukie11. I was

Whiskey666. We will not go into those! Whiskey was the name of a dog

that I owned. I took his name and added mine and birds. -- my numbers.

So you knew each other under those pseudonyms. We were good online

friends, that was it. It was the banter that was going backwards and

forwards between us. Tell us about that. You were called the terrible

twins? One of the chat managers called us the terrible twins. We

used to keep her awake at work. She said she had to take a box of

tissues in because she would be crying, not with sadness but with

laughter, at the two thus bantering away, joking online. Nobody could

get a word in edgeways, none of the other players. Lee and my sister, we

were just going hammer and tongs at one another -- me and my sister.

Device it is amazing that you were sisters and had no clue, but you had

that connection online. What was it? I used to tell Jackie about my day

at work and curse my boss and things like that. And I used to make a joke

of it. And that would start it up. Till it was like a natural

connection between you? It made me feel better, I would go home from

work, I lived alone. I would go online and I would have a lot of

banter with Jackie. Amazing. So take us back to that moment when you had

been searching for Jackie, you didn't know the surname, then the

surname was given by accident. I thought, where do I start? I

suddenly thought, one of my favourite occupations now, I went on

Facebook. And I searched for Jacqueline Green, there were

thousands and thousands, different spellings. I didn't know whether it

was green with an E on the end. But I narrowed it down to London. All

the south. -- or the south. Eventually after about a week, I

clicked on this one 's profile, and I looked at her and I went, she has

got my eyes, she has got the face. I could see resemblances. So I sent

her a message should and it said, hello, Jackie, you don't know me,

but... Where you convinced? Yes, when I saw her face I just said,

hello, Jackie, strange message but was your man, and I gave the full

name, and I said because, if so, I am your sister -- was your mum. I

gave my birth name and a lot of details. I got a message back at --

a little while later, saying, hello, sis. Jackie, what did you think, you

did not know you had a sister? I was thinking, how did she know my mum

and dad's name? I am reading the story and I am thinking, hang on,

something is clicking here. I message to her back and I went,

hello, how do you know me? Which is natural. And she went, bingo. I

went, I only played on one site, bingo port. She went, so did I, what

is your player name. When I told her she went, I am your terrible twin,

Dukie11. I sent her a message back, this is my landline number, this is

my mobile number, give me a ring. She did. We were on the phone for

three hours, and that was bit -- that was it. You have been

inseparable since? We are on the phone every week. We are only

separated by distance. She phones me every week because of my illness, I

am always in and out of hospital with my illness. So she rings me

every week just to make sure I am OK. And when she is not so good it

is two or three times a week. There is another sister? In between the

two others. And you want to find her? She was adopted at the same

time as me. I have known about her all my life. My adoptive parents

actually met her when they picked me up. I have never been able... What

do you know? She is called Wendy, her last known address was in

Scotland, she has a son and she was born in February 19 55. That is it.

She was adopted. Obviously her name was changed, but her Christian name

was kept the same, because she was older and Ansa ring to Wendy, so her

adoptive parents kept her Christian name the same -- she was older and

answering to Wendy. They changed her surname. That is all I know. It

would be nice to complete the family. We would have to be the

terrible Trio instead of the terrible twins. What would you do to

find her, getting Jackie surname was a stroke of luck? I have tried

different companies, I have tried heir hunters, years ago I wrote to

Cilla Black on Surprise, Surprise, I have done the long lost families

things, written to magazines. Every single one of them has hit the same

brick wall. This is one of the reasons why I had agreed to come

down to London and do these programmes, the fact that somewhere

out there she might be watching. Let's really hope. If she is, please

get in touch. I would love... I wrote to Cilla Black and said, I

would like to meet my sister Wendy before my 30th birthday. It was

roughly 30 years ago to now. So I am saying, now, Wendy, I would like to

meet you before my 60th birthday in May. We will really hope. Let's see,

maybe somebody is watching. Thank you for telling us your amazing

story. Last month, students at the London

School of Economics Saturday Free-speech Society in response to

what they say is increasing censorship at university campuses.

In what they describe as an ironic move, students are today voting on

whether the society should be banned. It is the latest in an

ongoing debate about free speech at universities, safe spaces and no

platform bands. The National union 's students says it has to listen to

people who find some views threatening, and there is an

argument that safe spaces are there to make sure everyone has a voice.

You can watch the website -- the video at the website and share it.

Mark on Facebook says more like being and undemocratic. Unions

should be places of free speech -- free speech. Want to read says safe

spaces are feminists' excuse to discriminate against people, mainly

men, they hate. Another person says they need to understand that their

views and political correctness are active censorship. The world will

offend you, so what? Thank you for your company, I will

see you on Monday. It is an Oscars special. Have a lovely weekend.

Goodbye. You know, you're quite funny

for a girl. This could get nasty. I think

you're talking to the wrong guy. If that was my daughter,

I know exactly what I'd do.