07/03/2016 Victoria Derbyshire

Hello, it's Monday, it's 9:15am, I'm Joanna Gosling in for Victoria.

Knowing this is the last time I will feel tired for hours

everything will be the last time, which is great.

I feel a bit like, in your face chemo, and yeah, goodbye chemo.

Victoria's end of chemotherapy video diary.

We'll play the full diary in the next few minutes,

and you can watch all of her previous diaries back

on the programme page bbc.co.uk/Victoria.

Also on the programme: The UK is sending what it calls "vital

military assets" to tackle people smugglers off the coast of Turkey

and Greece, as David Cameron prepares to meet EU leaders

And over the course of a lifetime women earn around

Really keen to hear from you about this this morning.

Do tell us what happens in your place of work.

We're on BBC Two and the BBC News Channel until 11am.

Well bring you the latest breaking news and developing stories

throughout the morning and as always we really want to hear

from you on all the stories we're talking about this morning.

We are particularly keen to try and get an insight from women

about your experience of asking for a pay rise.

It's after new figures show women are paid almost ?6,000 a year

You can get in touch in the usual ways.

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And of course you can watch the programme online wherever

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First this morning, seven months after Victoria was first diagnosed

with breast cancer, she's preparing to return to work full-time

As you know, she's been keeping a video diary of her treatment,

and in this latest instalment she describes her joy and relief

at coming to the end of six cycles of chemotherapy.

Next month she'll begin a course of radiotherapy.

Victoria's been filming her experiences for this programme

to try to help demystify some of the procedures and treatment.

She's being treated at Ashford and St.

Peter's NHS Hospital Trust in Surrey.

This latest diary focuses on her final three chemotherapy sessions.

It's 6th January 2016, I'm at hospital and I'm

about to have my fourth session of chemotherapy.

It's a new drug today, Docetaxel, so I'll see how

In a couple of hours I will be two thirds of the way through this

and I feel excited, I really do, because I can see that light

I have been in bed all day, I feel totally wiped out.

This is perhaps the cumulative effect of chemotherapy.

I've only got up to go to the loo, or to go

downstairs to get a bowl of cornflakes.

I have aches and pains in my back, legs, hips.

We are day 11 since the fourth session of

chemotherapy and it's definitely been the most difficult to bounce

back from and the most unpleasant in terms of the side-effects,

What it does mean, though, is I am thinking about the penultimate

session, which should be a cause for optimism because that means it's

Actually, I'm dreading it, which is annoying.

I never am, but it just makes me feel

It's the Monday after the penultimate chemotherapy,

so that was Wednesday and now it is Monday.

I spent a few days sleeping, sleeping off the drugs.

I am feeling a bit spaced out, that's about it.

I just want to show you a close-up, if

you can see it, that's my eyes, I barely have any eyelashes left.

There are probably about three on that side and similar amount

on that side, and then underneath just very

Last week most of my eyelashes seemed to fall out and for the whole

I am actually quite sanguine now about any more side

So the eyelashes go, I think, come on, what else have you got?

What else have you got to test me with?

It's 13 days, 13 days since the penultimate chemo

It's really good to be back at work and see everybody and not

think about cancer treatment, or chemotherapy, or side-effects,

and just concentrate on what's in the news.

I've just noticed this on my hand, which is a souvenir of chemotherapy.

Those are the veins into which the chemotherapy drugs

Anyway, that won't distract me from the programme.

It's due to be another busy programme.

It can get quite intense and I can already see

that it's the wrong day on the autocue.

Despite getting up at 3:30am, 3:45am for the last few days

I don't feel physically tired at all.

I look it, I've got absolutely massive bags under my eyes.

I look really, really tired and my eyes as dull streaming,

my nose is streaming but physically I feel all right.

And as my editor said, it's better to,

Better to look knackered but not feel it and be

alert and be across things in terms of the programme than look great

and not be alert during the programme.

I've been trying to work out why being at work at the moment...

Why being at work, particularly at the moment, I've always

loved my work and always loved my job, but why at the moment

And I suppose it's pretty obvious really.

I don't really think about cancer while I'm at work,

One job that is now part of my routine is washing my wig.

It still sounds so incongruous saying, "My wig".

If I think about it I actually can't believe

I'm washing my wig because I have so little of my own hair.

I've been to the Royal Television Society awards for the very first

time in my life and it was a very lovely evening.

We had a good laugh with our team and Ben,

who is a reporter on our team, won in the young talent category

And it's the first proper night out that I've had in ages.

And I must have had a good time because I have no idea

But obviously I have managed to get in, which is good.

And in four days it's my last chemotherapy cycle and I cannot wait

It's Sunday, the day before my last chemotherapy.

And I feel really relaxed today, which

is a contrast to the last few days where each day for about the last

four days I have shed tears, which is really unusual,

because I haven't much throughout the last six or seven months at all.

And I think it's because through the whole of

this process I've just been concentrating on and focusing

on getting through it and taking each

day as it comes, as much as is possible.

Because it is coming to an end, gosh, I can feel myself

Because it's coming to an end I've been

reflecting on what I have experienced.

I suppose it is just a release of emotions and relief.

So these are actually happy tears because it's

This is hopefully my last journey to the

infusion suite, because today is Monday 22nd of February

and it is my last chemo, I hope, forever.

And here's the corridor that I've walked

down every three weeks since November.

If I wasn't carrying stuff like blankets and hot water bottles

It's the last time I'm ever going to wear a cold

It's been a bit grim, but worth it because I've

probably got about half my hair left.

I think I might be slightly hysterical, I mean happy hysterical,

# Now that we've come to the end of the road.

Gosh, I feel like I just want to cry.

I bet you never thought you'd feel like this at the end of your chemo.

You've done really well, you've done so, so well.

You've had a lot of hurdles to cross.

And I can't stop crying, which is mad.

I think it might be six months of tears just coming out

I don't know if that's possible, or logical, or sensible.

But I'm just trying to find a reason why.

I think when it was over, when the drugs had

stopped going into me through the IV drip and the cold cap was coming off

Which is not like me, as you will have gathered!

And then I just texted my family and my

close friends to say in capital letters with

So, yeah, now I just want to see my boys after work.

And have a cuddle and a celebratory tea.

I think I have no more tears left, which is great.

I feel a little bit tired, but knowing this

is the last time I'll feel tired four hours after chemotherapy,

everything will be the last time, which is great.

And I feel a bit like in your face, chemo.

I've got some energy back and some feistiness back.

Victoria is back presenting the programme on Wednesday,

and you can watch all four of her diaries on our

And you've been sending in your comments to us.

BRCA Umbrella, which is a support group for those with a high risk

You have helped so many who are struggling

with a breast cancer diagnosis by being so open.

Calum Warren-Piper tweeted us with: Really happy for @vicderbyshire,

have been there and experienced it and it's time to celebrate!

Aliya Saleem said: I remember my last chemo day so well.

I'm so pleased for you and your family.

This has made not my day, but my year.

Jon Higginson facebooked us to say Victoria, I listened

to you through my struggles when you were on 5 Live,

you were a tonic, thankfully here to live through happier times

and so happy you're at this milestone.

And another from JoAnn Betschart on Facebook: Congratulations!

This video pointed me to the light at the end of the tunnel.

Ann Hood said: Victoria, you are an inspiring lady.

I have walked in your shoes with breast cancer and it's

Well done to you for your strength and sharing your story.

Deborah Osborne says, I have been so uplifted by your bravery and it has

been inspirational to all of us. I wish you a very happy and wonderful,

fulfilled life. We will read more of your messages in the

We will read more of your messages in the programme.

Still to come: A 92-year-old woman has been given permission to stay

in the UK and be cared for by her daughter after a high-profile

Could former Chelsea FC doctor Eva Carneiro get a settlement

in her claim for constructive dismissal and sexual discrimination

We'll be live at the tribunal hearing.

Yet more migrant arrivals in Greece after dozens died trying to cross

Turkish and EU leaders are about to hold an emergency meeting.

Britain says it's sending a warship to join allies from Germany

Its mission will be to stop migrant smugglers.

The head of the top business group resigns after being suspended

in a row over his support for the UK leaving the European Union.

The government has had to deny claims it put pressure on him.

A threat of nuclear war from North Korea as the US

the North sees it as a rehearsal for invasion, but South says it is

defensive. People took to Twitter and Facebook to vent their fury over

a lake and damaged Mother's Day presents. Moon cake said gifts

ordered by Friday would be on time. Some customers said it was untrue.

You can usually only see them much closer to the North Pole

in countries like Norway, but there were amazing displays

of the Northern Lights here in Britain last night.

Lucky skygazers have been tweeting their pictures.

They could be seen in Scotland and Northern Ireland

and even as far south as Oxfordshire.

Let's catch up with the sport. Lots of British success over the weekend.

Yes, it was a packed weekend of sport, Lott leased for GB cycling.

There was a golden finale for them at the world track Championships.

Sir Bradley Wiggins and Mark Cavendish won the Madison event even

after Mark Cavendish came off his bike. Laura Trott got her second

title of the championship in the Omnium. That leaves Great Britain

with five goal medals, one silver and three bronze. They topped the

medal table and it puts them in good stead ahead of the Olympics. Andy

Murray has put Great Britain through to the quarterfinals of the Davis

Cup. He beat Kei Nishikori in a five set epic match, four hours and 54

minutes. Up next is the small matter of Serbia and world number one Novak

Djokovic. Heather Watson won her third WTA title in her career in the

Monterrey open in Mexico. One person who will be joining me later is

Hannah Cockroft who won two goal medals at the Paralympics in 2012.

She will be talking about her preparations ahead of the Olympic

Games in Riyadh this summer. All of that at ten o'clock.

Britain is sending "vital military assets" to the Aegan Sea

between Greece and Turkey to help stop people smugglers taking

It comes as European Union leaders and the Turkish Prime Minister

gather in Brussels for a summit aimed at tackling

Last year more than a million people entered Europe illegally by boat,

travelling mainly from Turkey to Greece.

Now EU leaders say they'll give Turkey over ?2 billion

if they provide housing and shelters for migrants to stem the flow.

So what kind of support should the European Union be offering?

Maya Mailer is the Head of Humanitarian Policy And Campaigns

at Oxfam and Alp Mehmet is Vice Chair of Migration Watch.

What do you think about the EU putting the focus on Turkey? Is that

the right solution? It is difficult and problematic. Turkey already

hosts up to 2 million refugees and there seems to be a paradox in the

EU's approach in that it is calling on Turkey to keep its borders open

from Syria, so there are Syrian civilians fleeing the most vicious

conflict with bombs falling from the sky and Isis and other groups on the

ground. So the EU is calling on Turkey to keep its border with Syria

open, but close its border with Greece which seems to be the EU

outsourcing is border control to Turkey and that has significant

implications for human rights. The EU needs to deal with this

unprecedented crisis, but I am not convinced that is the right

approach. What do you think? I think that is a good place to start. It is

wrong to think we have a magic solution that by dealing with

Turkey, by helping Turkey to accept that those who have left her shores

is somehow solving the problem. I think sending ships to the

Mediterranean, we have tried that before. What needs to happen is not

so much to accept everyone who applies for asylum, but first

identified those who do not merit asylum and return them back from the

countries they came from. It could be Nigeria, Pakistan, any number of

countries in the Balkans who are also taking the opportunity of

looking for a better life, their nationals. We have got to look

there. They are in the minority. No, they are not. If you look at the 1.2

million last year who came in, only about a third of those were from

Syria. We are not sending anyone back to Syria. In Turkey it is right

we should be helping Turkey to deal with those who have gone into

Turkey. But it does not end there, that is my point. What do you think?

I would take issue with the numbers. The UN Refugee Agency says about 80%

of people who are coming from Greece are from refugee producing

countries, Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq, where conflicts are ongoing.

The vast majority of those people are likely to be refugees. There is

an important principle in international refugee law, in that

the UK and the EU subscribes to, in that each claim must be processed on

a case-by-case basis. You need to look at the individual. At the

moment we are seeing these blanket border closures by Austria and the

Western Balkan countries, denying people the right of entry simply on

the basis of their nationality. That is the whole point. You cannot

simply say there are 2 million, 3 million in Turkey, everyone can come

over. I am not suggesting that. Everyone who is in Afghanistan, in

sub Sahara Africa, who is looking for a better life opportunity, you

cannot simply say because you are spot asylum, we will accept you. But

how do you manage it? These people are continuing to come. They will

continue to come, we are not sending Syrians back. And people from Iraq

and Afghanistan and other war zones? Some of them are looking for an

opportunity for a better life rather than because they are under an

immediate threat. We simply cannot say we can take 30 million people

without thinking about the consequences. We have got to be

careful that in accepting people to come to Europe or the UK we are not

simply making matters worse. The mistake we made last time with our

ships... What do you mean by encouraging more people? If you feel

you will step on European soil and that is there, there is no question

of going back, of course people smugglers will encourage more and

more to come. I think those numbers are a bit sensationalist. There are

about 1 million people over the last year... There are 10 million people

displaced. There are 1 million people who have come to Europe,

about 0.2% of the total EU population. The EU could have

managed this. We have got the resources to deal with it. How would

you have managed it differently? By having a method based on solidarity

and not allowing unilateral moves by countries to close their borders. We

could have easily absorbed those numbers? Yes, we could, not putting

all of the responsibility on Greece and Italy, these front line states.

Yes, there is a global crisis when it comes to people fleeing conflict

and acute hardship, but the vast majority of those people are hosted

by poor and developing countries. You have 1 million Syrian refugees

in Lebanon, a tiny country the size of Wales. We are talking about 1

million refugees in all of Europe. There is a question of perspective

and these people are fleeing the most vicious conflict. That is not

the issue. The issue is looking ahead, how are you going to deal

with increasing numbers. There are many people in the leadership of the

EU who have said we cannot cope with all of this. We can chuck figures at

each other. You are underplaying it, I think I am being realistic. If you

look at the figures, the numbers coming out, there are 12 million

displaced within Syria. it is going to assault with the

numbers that have come so in terms of the framework that has been put

in place, do you think it is the right way of dealing with it? There

is a number of things. The starting point has to be a policy that is

based on human rights and not on Fortress Europe because that will

not work. If you close the migration route from the Western Balkans to

Austria another one will appear because these people are desperate

and determined to get to their destination. You need to meet the

needs of people that are here and find safer ways for people to get to

Europe and it has to be part of a global framework. Are there

unlimited numbers? Of course not. There has to be border patrol. It is

becoming unlimited and that is the problem. These are human beings who

need homes, children need schools, all the services, you simply cannot

say let us take their men and say we are going to take them all in.

Without thinking of the consequences of what that means in terms of

taking people in. We are not taking them all in. Without thinking about

the numbers. Human rights not Fortress Europe? I do not think the

UK has any lessons to learn with regards to the rights. We are doing

a huge amount already. Numbers compared to other countries. We are

thinking with our heads and our hearts. There are children who need

help. Of course we must help them. We must help those in need but

simply saying taking in more numbers without thinking of what is required

once you take them in is not helping them. In a way it is encouraging the

fittest and strongest to make their way into Europe and to Calais and

whenever. Thank you. Let us know your thoughts in all the usual ways.

Coming up: The boss of the UK's largest breast cancer charity tells

us how Victoria's breast cancer video diaries have helped other

Do continue to get in touch with your experience.

We will have much more of your comments throughout the programme.

Someone says I feel like the wait has been lifted off me.

"I feel like the weight has lifted off me".

The words of the 92-year-old woman facing deportation who's been given

Myrtle Cothill had been ordered to return to South Africa

by the Home Office who said she'd entered the country "by deception"

as she hadn't applied for UK residency.

They've now decided she can remain here "given the compassionate

We first spoke to Myrtle Cothill and her daughter Mary two weeks ago

when Myrtle told us the impact the case was having on her.

I'm just praying and hoping that something good can be done for me.

I can't face living without my daughter at this age.

If I've got to go back to South Africa, I've got no

I'll be put into places where there is no

I can't read and I can't hear and my breathing's impaired.

What will I do, just sit with my thoughts and wait

We can speak again now to Myrtle Cothill and her daughter

Mary Wills, who're at their home in Dorset.

Lovely to see you both. How relieved I you? I am very relieved. I am

still trying to get my head round that it is true. It has been such a

wonderful shock to us and mum is feeling a lot more relaxed and so am

I and I think I will feel more relaxed once I get her passport

stamped to live in England. Your mum cannot hear me directly. Can you ask

her how she is feeling? We heard before she was talking about a black

cloud hanging over her and the impact of all of it. How are you

feeling? I am feeling so much more relieved. I have not got this

terrible pain in my tummy. It is down a lot and I am feeling so

happy, so relieved, but I can spend the rest of my days with my daughter

and her husband. I am very happy here. It is all that I have wanted

in my old age to remain with her and I want to thank everybody for their

prayers and wishes, especially for the person who has arranged all this

and worked very hard. And also James Davies. And Bob Robinson. Everyone

that made it possible for me to stay year. It is so wonderful. I do not

know how to thank everybody. All the good wishes I have had. It has been

tremendous. I just have to thank everybody for all the hard work and

the effort put into this. That is all I can say. I am feeling so much

happier. Does this stress and tension you have been feeling for

such a long period just go away? Can you relax? Your stress and tension,

can you relax? Yes, I am starting to relax. We heard the news on Friday

night and it has been a joy. I am starting to relax. All the well

wishes that went on yesterday at the church and afternoon, it has all

been so wonderful, but today I can sit back and really think, you are

really haul now with your daughter. It is wonderful. I am starting to

feel much more relaxed. I have to thank everybody. What is the impact

of what you have been through been on both of you? It has been a very

long hard and cruel road we have been through years. Especially since

January this year. About two weeks ago when they had looked mum on to

this flight to go back to deport her, it was so cruel, we did not

know which way to turn, it was awful. As mum says, thank you to

doctor Ben Robinson and 151,000 supporters whose messages have been

tremendous. I thank everybody and the TV companies and your show. For

broadcasting is all over the show. Thank you. Thank you. Jack says,

poor woman, hopefully she will be left in peace with her family.

Still to come: They're likely to earn a staggering ?300,000 less

than men over their lifetimes but why are women not earning

Let us know your experiences. All the usual ways of getting in touch.

Northern lights. Last night there were some spectacular sights of the

Northern lights. Viewers have been sending them in. Look at the

colours, the Greens and the blues. We also had a kaleidoscope of

colours, purple as well. This one from Northumberland. A good night to

see the Northern lights up and down the country. Beautiful blues and

greens. We do not often get to see as many as this. This is in

Newcastle. Stunning. It was not just in England. Scotland as well. They

look like weaving curtains. When you see them it is so hit and miss, you

need clear skies. Stunning. Such a clear night. All of the stars as

well. A plethora of stars. You can see the different colours. A

plethora of stars. We have had some snow this morning. The Northern

lights, if you did not see them last night and are hoping to see them

tonight there is a chance. You need clear skies and the further north

and east you are the better chance you have. As far south as

Huddersfield. We have a weather front coming in from the west. I

went to the north of Scotland chasing the Northern lights one

time. Did you see them? No. Everything was set and then the

cloud came over. Not far from as you did see them. I was gutted. Windy

hopefully. Some people waking up to snow like this. It has been a cold

start to the day. We have also had some frost. For many we are looking

at sunny spells and a few showers. The showers have been in the west

and the east and some of those to come. Cold in the east with the

northerly wind but we have showers continuing with a wintry element

which will diminish through the day and the showers weakening in the

west but a few more across Wales and south-west England. In between a

glorious but cold day with a lot of sunshine. Showers continuing across

Yorkshire and East Anglia. Also across south-west England. Not all

of it. In between bright and sunny skies. Sunshine for Wales.

North-west England fairing nicely. Scotland, a beautiful day, but more

cloud in the west. As in Northern Ireland. A few breaks and fewer

showers than this morning. By the time it gets dark we will be

watching the temperatures drop. A week whether front with the risk of

ice. We have this weather front. This is introducing some rain and

also some hill snow. A cold start to the day with the risk of ice and

frost. As the weather front moves towards the east it will weaken. It

is still going to bring some rain but it will be turning more showery.

Behind that some brightness coming through but still some showers.

Temperatures ranging between five and nine. All change due to this low

pressure coming in from the Atlantic. The position of this could

change. This is what we think is going to happen. Wet and windy

weather across England and Wales. The strongest wind will be in the

west but heavy and persistent rain that may move further north and if

it does it could be wintry. But I'm that, brighter conditions coming

through and temperatures will start to rise by the end of the day.

5-8dC. It is going to be critical mag for the next few days. We have

milder conditions moving across the British Isles so by Friday there is

the potential some parts of the south and east could hit 16 Celsius.

Hello, it's Monday, it's 10am, I'm Joanna Gosling in for Victoria.

Welcome to the programme if you've just joined us.

Coming up before 11am: Joy, relief and plenty of tears.

Seven months after she was first diagnosed with breast cancer,

I have no more tears left, which is great.

I feel a little bit tired, but knowing this is the last time

I'll feel tired four hours after chemotherapy,

everything will be the last time, which is great.

And I feel a little bit like, in your

I've got some energy back and some feistiness

You have been getting in touch to say how much her diary has helped

with your treatment. One says, tears streaming down my face, what an

inspiring women. Also new research suggests women may be earning

?300,000 less than men over their careers. Is that surprising and what

can be done to change it? And braving ice cold temperatures of

up to -30 and taking part in gruelling survival drills, the Royal

Marines have been in the Arctic training US Marines for the first

time. We will have a special report on the Nato training exercise.

Yet more migrant arrivals in Greece, after dozens died trying to cross

Turkish and EU leaders are about to hold an emergency meeting.

Britain says it's sending a warship to join allies from Germany

Its mission will be to stop migrant smugglers.

The head of a top business group resigns after being suspended

in a row over his support for the UK leaving the European Union.

The government has had to deny claims it put pressure on him.

Complaints for the card and gift company Moonpig after people took

to Twitter and Facebook to vent their fury over late

Moonpig had previously advertised that gifts ordered by Friday

afternoon would be on time, some of their customers found that

The Education Secretary Nicky Morgan says that the school funding system

in England is "outdated, inefficient and unfair"

Money will be sent straight to headteachers rather

than local authorities but Labour says she's dodged

92-year-old woman, Myrtle Cothill, has told this programme she is so

relieved she has permission to stay in the UK and be cared for by her

daughter. She been ordered to return to South Africa. I am feeling so

much more relieved. I have not got this terrible pain in my tummy now.

It has eased down a lot and I am feeling so happy that I can spend

the rest of my days with Mary. You can usually only see them much

closer to the North Pole in countries like Norway,

but there were amazing displays of the Northern Lights

here in Britain last night. Lucky skygazers have been

tweeting their pictures. They could be seen in Scotland

and Northern Ireland and even as far south

as Oxfordshire. Let's talk sport now, Jessica

is back and as the Paralympics in Rio draw closer, I see

you have a medal-winning guest. Good morning. Great Britain won an

incredible 120 medals at the London 2012 including 34 goal medals, two

of which were won by Hannah Cockroft. It is six months until

Rio. How are the preparations going? I will be training this afternoon.

We have just come back from Australia where we were doing lots

of miles and there was a bit of sunshine and I am happy and I am

faster and stronger than ever and if things carry on like this for the

next six months, that will be perfect. You want two goal medals in

London 2012, but you are competing in different races. In Rio I will

race in the 100, 400 and 800. There are so many classifications and

different disabilities, if every disability had every event, the

Paralympics would last four years. So they mixed them up and change

them every four years. It is a change and it is a harder

competition and I have had a lot to learn, but it is exciting. You are

very much used to success on a Paralympic level, but a few months

ago you lost your unbeaten, seven year record that had gone on for 300

races. Do you feel under pressure that the pack who were chasing you

are catching up? I felt under pressure since I became world

champion in 2011. I was always aware there was a lot more talent coming

through after London. We got so much exposure in London and so many

youngsters saw Paralympic sport for the first time and thought, I could

do that. The girl that beat me, that is what happened. She saw me and she

came out and suddenly 300 races meant nothing. But it gave me a bit

of motivation and it reminded me why I love being top the world. It was a

bad day, but it was so worth it in hindsight. How do you build the

perceptions of Paralympic sport has changed? London 2012 was

exceptional. Disability and perception in general have changed

massively. People see us as elite athletes and we are bit more

accepted in society as well. People realise we are there are a bit more.

You have noticed a difference in everyday life? Yes, definitely. I do

not know if it is just for me for everybody, but things are a more

accessible and people want to watch what we are doing. We had 80,000

people in London. I am not sure how many we will get in Rio, but it is

supported by BT and everyone can support us wherever they are in the

world. But it is incredible and the support has been amazing. Hannah,

thank you very much for joining us and best of luck for the

up-and-coming season, your next race is in May at the British

Championships. All the best. Thank you for joining us this

morning, welcome to the programme if you've just joined us,

we're on BBC 2 and the BBC You can get in touch in the usual

ways use the hashtag Victoria LIVE. Lots of you have been in touch to

talk about Victoria's video diary. Lisa says, I have just completed 16

rounds with a cold cap, it is great to finish.

Watching your diary has helped me to re-evaluate my illness and wellness.

Looking forward to seeing you back on TV. Take your time, the recovery

process is a long road. Thank you for all of those and keep

your comments coming in. You can get in touch in all the usual ways.

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Women are likely to earn ?300,000 less than men over their working

New analysis shows a gap of ?5,732, or 24%, in average full-time

annual salaries between men and women.

It comes over 40 years after the Equal Pay Act

was introduced, which aims to ban any less favourable

treatment between men and women in terms of pay.

Get in touch with your experiences and we are keen to hear from you if

you are a woman and if you have asked your boss for a pay rise.

We can talk to Helen Stevens, who is a negotiator at the union

She's represented a number of women involved in unequal pay cases,

and Natalie Reynolds, who owns the company Advantage

She works with companies to improve their negotiation

techniques and has successfully increased her own pay.

Helen, tell us about some of the cases you have been involved in and

what you think of these figures. I am not surprised about the figures.

I have been a union officer for 30 years, and it is sad we are still

talking about this problem. We know what the problem is, but we need to

take more steps to fix the problem. I have looked that members at the

intellectual property office and at the Met Office where we have just

put in 77 claims to the employment tribunal. We know what the problem

is, but we are not doing things to put it right, so women are earning

less and losing out. The law is clear, you would think it should

therefore be straightforward, but clearly it is not. Exactly. There is

a particular problem in the public sector, and I am a public sector

union officer, where the two government policies are at odds.

Most recently the Prime Minister and ministers have been talking about

publishing equal pay audits and making the problem visible, but in

the civil service where I look after people the problem is known, but

Treasury policy says the employer cannot fix it. I know at the Met

Office if the employer was given freedom to manage its own pay bill,

as the private sector might, then it would be able to sort this out. But

the government policy on pay is at odds with sorting out the equal pay

issues. Natalie, what are your thoughts on this? I think the whole

point is this, of course we have government legislation and

government interest in this issue which is fantastic. I wholeheartedly

agree with the comets just made that it is a shame we are still talking

about this. My issue and what I do a lot in work with senior executives

around the world is, we cannot wait around for legislation to fix this.

I think a lot of what we can do is take control and find out the best

way that we can negotiate for ourselves as well. That is not to

say that we should let employers off the hook, we should not, but in the

meantime whilst legislation is ticking over, how can we help

ourselves when it comes to negotiating our own salary? What

about the general downward pressure on pay? If somebody goes to an

employer and says, I am being paid less than a man, but the employer

says this is not the time for a pay rise, where do you go from that? For

me this all goes to planning well for that conversation. There will

always be excuses why somebody cannot evaluate pain. There will be

excuses like, you might think they are paid more, but you cannot prove

that. I spent a number of years in the public sector, but in the

private sector this is equally a problem. There is a culture of

secrecy around pay. You can be reprimanded for talking about pay or

asking your colleagues about their salary, which can make it quite hard

to baseline for any conversation you might go on to have. But if you get

immediate push back, you should be thinking of a jewel response. The

first one should be any formal avenue that you can take for the

refusal for them to review your claim, or you can look at what you

can do here and now, which is how you can go on to negotiate that

position. How much does motherhood come into the equation on equal pay?

For me I always say that motherhood is the get out clause for a lot of

employers and a lot of the corporates we work with, but people

generally and women have this view, this is an issue because people have

babies and when they come back they are part-time and they are not as

ambitious and a focus on other things or want to stay at home, but

when it comes to the gender pay gap it is very convenient to say this is

a motherhood issue. But we know from looking at a number of pieces of

research that the gender pay gap kicks in far earlier than

motherhood. It is not an issue that happens to mothers. We see

apprentices are routinely as women paid less than their male

counterparts for doing the same job. It is happening at the very first

levels when women are going out into the world of employment. Natalie and

Helen, thank you very much. Natalie and Helen,

thank you very much. As Turkish and EU leaders hold

an emergency summit on tackling Europe's worst refugee crisis

since World War Two, we'll be live on the

Greece/Macedonia border where 13 thousand migrants are

currently stranded. Royal Marines have been training US

Marines in the Arctic As tensions run high

between Russia and the West, a Nato training exercise involving

15,000 troops is under way. UK defence secretary Michael Fallon

has warned the alliance should be ready to respond if Russia

"crosses the line". BBC Radio 1 Newsbeat joined the US

Marines for their training in Norway where temperatures can drop

to minus 30 degrees. ARCHIVE NEWS FOOTAGE: Bloodshed

on the streets of Ukraine on the deadliest day yet

of anti-government protests. In response to Russia's actions

in Ukraine earlier this year. David Cameron is expected to support

President Obama's warning to Russia. We have to be ready to deal

with that kind of aggression, and make sure that

Russia knows that if it crosses the line, if you like,

then we are ready to respond. We are now continuously rotating

additional personnel and aircraft This is probably the

most challenging one. I've never been in this kind of cold

weather environment. Being fatigued and cold

and tired and hungry, One of the reasons why

we are in Eastern Europe is to support our partners

and deter Russian aggression. I am sure that unless we are

robust and unless we show resolve then this

could become dangerous. The Royal Marines are the only

cold-weather and mountain It's obviously a fairly brutal

environment, temperatures The US Marine Corps

are terribly gung ho, you see the pictures of them

all running along shouting Some are concerned that their focus

has been typically special An infantry battalion

certainly creates I've been in the Marines

for three years. People have their motives

to join the Marines. They want to serve

their country, they They want to get to

travel around the world. I did it purely because my brother's

in the Marine Corps and watching him graduate Boot Camp was honestly

the sole reason why I joined I was working two jobs,

I was working in a fast-food restaurant

and in a factory. I was working in the restaurant part

time and the factory It was just getting really stressful

and tiring so I wanted to try something new, and something

I figured would really help me The reason I joined

was because of my wife, Now I'm out here doing this

and having a good time Icebreaking basically entails a man

on skis with his pack It's important because,

moving around frozen terrain, we don't always know

the consistency of the ice. It's a whole lot colder

here and there is a whole It's hard to breathe

and hard to talk Initially when they go in the skin

receptors on the body are aware of this sudden

change in temperature, and that would kick in this

in voluntary response, so you get this, huh-huh,

that generally lasts for

about three seconds. The body then starts

hyperventilating, starts breathing quickly command that can

last for up to about three minutes. I was afraid I was going to get

in there and not be We rode in on the BBs and now we are

building our snow shelters We are piling up a bunch of snow

and compacting it down. And after it settles we will dig

into it and that will be our shelter It's actually a long,

long and tedious, exhausting project that probably takes

about six to eight hours Some would say it isn't

as comfortable as a night in a tent. However, if you've got a candle

going and there is no air flow, ie you have dug your

sleeping bays higher than the entrance trench,

then all of the cold air drops and it will be a comfortable zero

degrees in the shelter. We've been piling up

all of this snow and We started digging

around 9:45am and we didn't stop digging

until at least 1700. So that's practically like eight

hours of just piling the snow We called for help and

the whole company came. Essentially they've

got to put in bits of That then maintains

the stability of the Therefore, once they were digging

in they dug beyond the limits, and the roof of the shelter

collapsed in on top of them. Unfortunately, now we've had to move

them on to the snow bank over there and they will have

to dig another shelter. This is probably the

most different thing I'd say we'd be ready

for anything that comes our way, That is just how we,

as Marines, are. Yes, just ready to respond

and serve without a question. I think everyone that

comes out here finds The reason the Royal Marines come

here, we know that if we can operate here we can operate anywhere around

the world, or anywhere It couldn't get any tougher

and more demanding. These guys have stepped straight off

a plane from the US, they have come to Europe

and a week later they are 300 miles inside the Arctic Circle

fighting against these conditions. Fighting in that weather

is really, really difficult. To survive is more than half

the battle, it is 95% of it. If you survive and can also fire

something and your equipment works The training that our armed forces

can provide is something other armies around the world

really, really want. We have some of the most

specialist and most admired training of any

army around the world. It's obviously a fairly brutal

environment, temperatures The US Marine Corps

are terribly gung ho, It is obviously a fairly brutal

environment, so as you would expect there is a spectrum

of cold-weather injuries. You have your hypothermia,

where the whole body is cold and becomes cold and generally

begins to shut down. Frost nip is a bit of

a warning sign, where, yes, people have cold

hands, cold feet, Also the progression

from that is the tissues start freezing, and that is frostbite,

and that is a significant problem Different degrees of frostbite

from superficial to deep depending on the layers of

the tissue that are actually frozen. It is supposed to be

a shelter to keep us safe and warm but it

is still rather cold. We worked for long hours yesterday

up until about midnight Our clothes are still kind of wet

and cold and some parts It's been a really rough time

these last two days. It takes its toll and

you've just got to suck Get your jackets on if you haven't

already, and have your flasks out. How was the night in

the quinzhee on the whole? Did it serve its

purpose as a survival The move that we are going

to introduce initially will start off with movement by snowshoes,

and then a little bit later on we are going to slowly

but surely develop utilising movement by skis, which will prove

quite an arduous task. I'm not used to this

position and wearing skis. I need to get some

better gloves because I can't really shoot

with these mitts on. The gloves, the skis make it more

difficult and it is more of a workaround to get

to the weapon, and But a little practice

and we will get good at it. It's a lot different

than what I'm used to being on, you know, much more solid

ground handling a weapon. Having to break through

the undisturbed snow just makes it a lot more of a work-out

and a lot more The techniques are getting

slowly perfected. It's an arduous environment,

where not only are we combating the actual skill sets

involved with maintaining our body temperature in the cold,

but also with the more pertinent point with closing on and

defeating the enemy. I'm EXPLETIVE if we

move towards Russia. I can't figure out how

to move in this EXPLETIVE. In the last ten or so years we've

been focused elsewhere in the world. Are cold-weather expertise hasn't

been what it should be. Coming here and learning

from the best cold-weather trainers in the world

is a fantastic opportunity. All that skijoring is

it is utilising a long length of rope, a small

hitch over the ski poles. It means that we can almost double

the amount of personnel we can move around an area in order

to close with the enemy. The biggest energy expulsion

during this activity is going to be the constant falling over and then

trying to stand up with kit The last bit of the exercise

we are conducting is basically Ultimately this is probably the most

testing part of the week, due to the fact of the degradation

and the guys have received due to spending two nights previous

under canvas and then again the survival shelter

on the final day. We have made it a long way,

we've done a lot of hard work, and the Royal Marines have given us

a lot of help as far as being able It's a really harsh

climate, but I think with a little more

practice we can do it. It's taken a while to

grasp the urgency. It's that standing waiting

for an order and understanding that you need to move away from that

and start acting for yourself. This is the best office in the world

as far as I'm concerned. I think the Americans are slowly

starting to appreciate that as well. Culturally, yeah, there

are differences, but we are Marines. UK Marines, US Marines,

we are Marines. There is a brotherhood that

transcends political If you come across people

who are highly trained and able to live in that environment

it is extremely difficult So the Russians will take

this quite seriously. They watch very carefully

what we are doing. Skiing is the most demanding

thing I've ever done. I'm glad to be back

on base and a nice That was BBC Radio 1 Newsbeat

with rare access to a Royal Marines training exercise with the US

Marines in the Arctic. If you want to share

the film, you can find it boss of the UK's largest breast

cancer Charity tells as how Victoria's breast cancer diaries

have helped. It is brave and outstanding journalism and is having

an amazing impact on awareness. Kerry says I loved your videos. I am

due to have my penultimate in this week. Get to know my feelings are

pretty normal. Someone says, amazing what happens when you do not go

through it or know anyone who has. Tears of joy that you made it

through. I lost my wife to cancer for my days ago. Your happiness has

raised my gloom. I have been going through the same as Victoria. I

phoned the videos would make me more upset but after watching this I

realised I was wrong. Thank you for your comments. Continue to get in

touch. Deteriorating conditions in

Macedonia. Leaders from Turkey and the UK are due to hold an emergency

meeting. Our reporter is at the camp. What is happening? We have

moved locations to show you this extraordinary scene that runs

through the centre of the camp, this railway track. It was built for 2000

people but they are spilling onto the tracks. Probably 13,000 people

here at the moment and in these conditions you pitch your tent

wherever you can however uncomfortable. We have families here

in a flimsy tent, two or three. It has not read but we are expecting

rain this evening. It is very different to what we saw last summer

which was lots of young Muslim men heading north. It is mostly women

and children. 60% of the people estimated to be women, children or

unaccompanied minors. This lady trying to keep her children

entertained. Trying to keep the four youngsters busy while they wait. We

do not know how long they are going to wait for the Macedonian foot is

still open the border. Noses starting to filter about the summit.

The route that follows this railway line through the Western Balkans is

going to be closed. Britain says it's sending a warship

to join allies from Germany Its mission will be

to stop migrant smugglers. The head of a top business group

resigns after being suspended in a row over his support for the UK

leaving the European Union. The government has had to deny

claims it put pressure on him. Women are likely to earn ?300,000

less than men over the course of their working lives,

according to a new report. It says there's a gap of almost

a quarter in average full-time salaries despite the Equal Pay Act

being introduced four decades ago. Complaints for the card

and gift company Moonpig after people took to Twitter

and Facebook to vent their fury over late or damaged

Mothers' Day presents. Moonpig had previously advertised

that gifts ordered by Friday A 92-year-old woman,-

Myrtle Cothill, has told this programme she's so relieved she has

permission to stay in the UK and be She had been ordered

to return to South Africa. I am feeling so much more relieved.

I have not got this beautiful pain in my tummy now. It has eased down a

lot and I am feeling so happy, so relieved that I can spend the rest

We will bring you the spot, but you might want to see these pictures of

the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge skiing with their children in the

French Alps. The trip is the first time they have been on holiday

together as a family. They arrived on Wednesday night and the following

day George had his first experience of playing in the snow. The family

out in the Alps. The first holiday abroad together. Six photographs

have been released in all. I am not sure if we can see the others. We

will show you the other is a little later if we can. Now let's catch

Plenty of British success to talk about. Andy Murray won three matches

in three days to send Great Britain through to the quarterfinals of the

Davis Cup. But it is Serbia and Novak Djokovic up next. But after

almost five hours on court against Kei Nishikori, Andy Murray wanted to

go home. It is Kim's verse mother's day. Yes, so it is nice to get to

see her this evening. I will try and get back for bath-time and try and

put her to sleep. Not Kim, the baby. Heather Watson is on her way up the

world rankings after winning in Mexico. She came from a set down to

beat Kirsten Flipkens for her third WTA title. British cycling is in top

shape as we edge closer to real. Great Britain finished top of the

medal table at the track World Championships. Sir Bradley Wiggins

and Mark Cavendish won the final event of the Madison, after Laura

Trott took her second goal medal in the Omnium. Tony Duggan gave England

the lead against Germany, but they lost 2-1 thanks to this

controversial penalty. Coach Marsh Samson was furious after the match.

England have no chance of winning the tournament. Manchester United's

hopes of taking a top four place in the Premier League took a knock this

Government plans to allow local authorities to extend Sunday opening

hours for larger stores could be moving a step closer.

Our political guru Norman Smith can tell us more.

Brink of up to date. Successive governments seem to run into trouble

when they look at the issue of extending the hours. It was the only

time misses Thatcher was defeated in the Commons, that was over Sunday

trading. Now David Cameron appears to be facing his own difficulties

over the issue. He wants a situation where the big supermarkets can open

for longer than the current six hours which they are limited to.

There has been a huge amount of opposition, not just from the Labour

Party and the trade unions who are concerned about the impact on

workers, but Christian family and Tory MPs are concerned about the

further erosion of Sunday as a special day. Some MPs say this was

not in the manifesto, why are we doing this? It will make it harder

for small businesses and town centres in massive, great big

supermarkets on the edge of town are allowed to open all day. I have

picked up on the opposition in the papers. The FT says a storm brews

over Sunday trading laws. It looks like Mr Cameron is going to get his

way after he is poised to strike an unlikely deal with the Scottish

Nationalists of all people. It seems they may well no longer oppose this

measure if the government can offer them a deal on protecting the higher

pay rates that staff in Scotland already get where they have longer

Sunday trading hours. I do not think many people would expect Mr Cameron

and the SNP to try and reach some sort of arrangement, but all the

signs are that is what is going to happen. If that happens, the

opposition will be outraged and moves to extend Sunday trading may

go ahead. Shopping on a Sunday, it is good news for you. But if you

don't like it, you will have to lock yourself in a broom cupboard on

Sundays, like me. I will think of you on every Sunday.

Former Chelsea first-team doctor Eva Carneiro will try to reach

a settlement with Jose Mourinho and her old club in a private

She's claiming constructive dismissal against Chelsea and has

a separate personal legal action against her former boss,

who has since left Chelsea, for alleged victimisation

The 42-year-old doctor was criticised by Jose Mourinho

and then dropped from first team duties after going on to the pitch

to treat Eden Hazard, meaning that Chelsea

Our reporter is at the tribunal in South London.

Yes, it is. Either arrived at 9:15am with her husband this morning for

this private hearing. It is the second time she has been here. Today

it is what is called a judicial mediation. This is held in private.

Her legal team will be in one room and Chelsea's team will be in an

adjacent court room and the judge will go between the two rooms trying

to mediate and get common ground. I understand the Chelsea chairman and

the Chelsea CEO are here today in Croydon, so key members of the

Chelsea hierarchy. The settlement may not be reached today, so the

legal process continues. She is suing Chelsea for constructive

dismissal and there is a connected claim against Jose Mourinho for

alleged discrimination. If there is no agreement today, it will continue

to a full tribunal on the 6th of June. Have the parties involved said

anything? There has been no comment from either side. We do not know how

far apart the two sides are. There are certain things to consider. If

it goes on to a full tribunal, this will be in public. There are key

communications between members of the Chelsea hierarchy, e-mails and

text messages that would be made public. Chelsea would be compelled

to give evidence in person and Jose Mourinho would be compelled to give

evidence in person. That intrusion the club may want to avoid. It might

be difficult for Jose-Maria knew who is currently out of work and looking

to get back into management with possibly the Manchester United job.

We do not know if there is an appetite to settle, but if they

settle it comes to settling for a value of the claim and how much

money could be awarded and those details have to be talked about.

There is also the potential for discussing a confidentiality

agreement, is a public apology on the card as well? But if we do not

get a settlement today, it does not mean it will not be settled in the

future. Chelsea could choose to settle this case at any time before

it reaches that public employment tribunal on the 6th of June.

Amanda Jones is a specialist in Employment law and discrimination

law at Maclay Murray and Spens law firm and is a non-executive director

Talk us through first the constructive dismissal

What would have to be proved? I do not think anyone knows the full

detail of the claim, but they would need to be a demonstration that

there was a fundamental breakdown in the employment relationship between

her and the club as the employer rather than any individual in the

club. The burden of proof is on how to demonstrate that. What about the

personal case against Jose Mourinho? What would have to be proved there?

I would imagine the case would be against him and the club to be

honest. Employers are liable for their employees of' activities. If

there is a sex discrimination case and that is what is viewed as might

be the case, it might be against both the club and Jose Mourinho as

an individual. That could have a number of different aspects to it.

The most publicly perceived one is the Eden Hazard issue and the

comments that Jose Mourinho made roundabout that time, but also

potentially the allegations that he swore in Portuguese, and in my

limited understanding of Portuguese it is offensive. The FA investigated

it and reached a conclusion without actually interviewing either

individual who the allegation was made against, or the claimant

herself. There may also be comments that have been made in the past, how

she could have been treated by Jose Mourinho and the club generally. A

discrimination claim can be brought in relation to one individual

incident, but more often than not that would need to bring in a

background of this context in which she worked, how she was treated in a

professional capacity by Jose Mourinho and had the club dealt with

that in the background. How hard or easy is it to prove a case of sex

discrimination? It is very difficult principally because again the onus

is on the individual to prove it. In employment law there are some claims

where there is a neutral burden of proof, or indeed the requirement for

the employer to prove something, but in both constructive dismissal and

sexual harassment, the burden is on the individual. What they have got

to do is prove primary facts effectively. They have got to put

forward a whole set of facts and then invite the tribunal to infer

from those facts that there was an act of discrimination. It may be

that an individual in those cases will want to go back quite a

distance in their employment and may bring up things that have happened

way back in the past, but use that as evidence to say, this happened in

the past and that is the context I was working in. In those

circumstances it is more likely than not that saying she was naive and

impulsive like that were discriminatory. Amanda Jones, thank

you. EU leaders are meeting the Turkish

Prime Minister in Brussels at a summit expected to agree measures to

stop people smugglers sending boats full of migrants from Turkey to the

Greek islands. Here is a reminder of the impact of migrants on the

Here is a reminder of the impact of migrants on the European Union.

We will keep you up-to-date with those migrant talks throughout the

day on BBC News. So many of you have been getting

in touch this morning to share your experiences

after watching Victoria's fourth video diary following her

treatment for breast cancer. I was very emotional once Mikey

Moore finished, I did not feel like celebrating. Very common apparently

but well done. I watched your diary and Robert inspires anyone who was

unfortunate enough to be in the same situation. I lost my wife to cancer

years ago after a long fight and I wish I had been able to video her

progress and bravery. I know she would have drawn strength and

inspiration from you. I can relate to your story as I was diagnosed

last September with stage three breast cancer. I finished my

chemotherapy on the 12th of February. It is not like this for

everyone. Do not beat yourself up if tiredness persists.

Victoria was diagnosed with breast cancer at the end of July and has

just finished her sixth and final chemotherapy cycle.

She's been keeping a video diary of her treatment to try and help

demystify some of the treatment and procedures.

In this short extract of the full diary you can watch her emotional

It's the last time I'm ever going to wear a cold

It's been a bit grim, but worth it because I've

probably got about half my hair left.

I think I might be slightly hysterical, I mean happy hysterical,

It's all a bit overwhelming, isn't it?

Gosh, I feel like I just want to cry.

I bet you never thought you'd feel like this at the end of your chemo.

You've done really well, you've done so, so well.

You've had a lot of hurdles to cross.

And I can't stop crying, which is mad.

I think it might be six months of tears just coming out

I don't know if that's possible, or logical, or sensible.

But I'm just trying to find a reason why.

I think when it was over, when the drugs had

stopped going into me through the IV drip and the cold cap was coming off

And I feel a bit like in your face, chemo.

I've got some energy back and some feistiness back.

Victoria's back presenting the programme full time from

She will undertake six weeks of radiotherapy in April.

You can watch all four of her video diaries on our programme

Delyth Morgan is the Chief Executive of Breast Cancer Now,

the UK's largest breast cancer charity.

Her sister has been diagnosed twice with breast cancer and she's acted

We can also talk to two viewers who have contacted us. Cathy was

diagnosed with breast cancer last July when she was pregnant and

finished her chemotherapy in January and Lisa was diagnosed last

September and is going to have her final round of chemotherapy in ten

days. What impact do you think Victoria's diaries have had? They

have been extraordinary. She has been so brave. They are so clear. It

is a period of immense vulnerability going through treatment like this

and to be so open, she did not know how she was going to feel or look or

anything like that so to be so open and bravery is tremendous and

inspiring for so many going through treatment and for people thinking

about their experiences having been through it before. It is gruelling

physically and emotionally and she has talked about that so openly. I

mentioned your sister has been diagnosed with breast cancer and you

have been higher chemo buddy. How have higher experiences timed with

Victoria? Very similar. If you're fortunate enough to have support

from family and friends, it can play a really important role. That can be

boring sitting for hours waiting for the treatment to go through at those

moments when you are really tired or really feel very law, that

supporters really important. There are support services available for

women going through chemo and all breast cancer treatments and

afterwards, whether it is breast Cancer care, Macmillan or by talking

to breast cancer specialist nurses, there is support. It is really

tough. How much openness is there a red cancer and treatment of it? Most

of us are touched through someone we know or direct experiences but until

you go through it you do not know. It is much better than it used to

be. When I was a child, a long time ago, my father had cancer and nobody

talked about it. It meant death. People are so much more open. Still

you hear about people feeling isolated and alone. There are these

kind of opportunities to be open and to have a greater understanding and

to demystify, and it is so important because people go through treatment

feeling alone and hearing about Victoria's experiences reaches out

to people. Cathy and Lisa got in touch with us because they have been

watching at home. You are there with your baby. You were pregnant when

you were diagnosed. Tell us your experience. Yes. It was the huge

shock, an absolute shock. I thought about whether to terminate the baby.

You think of life preservation to start with. I could not eat for a

week. Gradually you get used to it. You think I will get through this.

You got in touch because of Victoria's video diaries. What have

they meant to you as you have been going through similar experience?

Absolutely inspirational. She is so open. I have been open throughout

the war thing. She has been so open. She has been brilliant. Showing we

can get through this. It is scary to start with but not as scary as you

think. You will get through it. It used to be looked at as a death

sentence but you think I will survive and get through this and

beat it. What is your experience? My experience as Queen quite positive.

-- has been. We decided we were going to look at the positive rather

than going towards the negative and trying to stay positive which is

half the battle I feel. What Victoria has been going through, she

has always been two weeks ahead of me so she has taken some of the

scariness out of it because I have seen the videos and I know a little

bit about what I should expect and the way she explains everything I do

not feel on my own. She says she is scared, I was scared. Everything she

went through I went through as well. It makes things so much easier and

easier to explain to other people as well because when you do not want to

explain what you are going through they can watch the video and have

some kind of understanding of what you are going through. Yes. That is

so important because for friends and family and work colleagues, they may

have no idea what someone is going through. They may feel they cannot

talk about it or ask how are you or make any kind of reference to the

condition so being able to see what is going on and demystify, that is a

good word, it can be helpful. Ultimately what we want is to find a

way in the future so that these kind of treatments can only be used

absolutely minimally and we can find better ways of treating cancer and

helping all women to survive in the future.

Thank you for getting in touch with your thoughts. Victoria is back on

Wednesday. I will be here tomorrow. We are told that OJ Simpson

IS in that car,