26/04/2016 Victoria Derbyshire

Hello it's Tuesday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire.

This morning junior doctors in England have begun an all out

strike for the first time in the history of the NHS.

We're outside an A hospital in central London where Throughout

the programme we'll hear from doctors, politicians and those

affected by today's strike - the latest action in a dispute

with the government over a new contract which the Health Secretary

You can see the various banners here, messages to England's Health

Secretary. Trust real doctors, not spin doctors one of the banners

says. Tell us why you have withdrawn emergency care today? There are

simply too many holes in the junior doctor contract to make it safe. For

example, in the change to our working hours, we can be expected to

work until 2 in the morning and be back at 7 in the morning. It's not

safe for patients and doctors. Somebody's just handed you a rose,

clearly supporting what you do today. How difficult a decision was

it for you to withdraw emergency cover? It's not a decision any

doctor has taken lightly. This contract's is simply drawn up by

politicians simply out of touch with what it's like to work on the

frontline with not enough staff and support and this contract will make

it so much more worse. It's great to see the public understand and know

why we are doing this. Much more from junior doctors on the picket

line this morning. Members of the public chanting, saying "I 100%

support you guys, keep going". We'll hear from some members of the public

who're not happy about this. We'll hear from patients, politicians and

doctors. The latest strike over the new contract which the Health

Secretary for England is going to impose upon them.

I Also coming -- we'll also hear from the families of the 96 who died

at the Hillsborough inquest. It wasn't the norm even then, the first

one. Once the second one happened... Just everybody just knew then just

how bad it was. You join us on a very busy St

Thomas' Hospital on the picket line. That is our top story today.

Our top story today: Junior doctors at hospitals across England have

begun an all-out strike this morning - and for the first time in

the history of the NHS they will not provide emergency care.

It's the fifth strike in a long running dispute,

which began when talks about a new contract

The Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt says it's a very bleak

Our health correspondent Dominic Hughes reports.

Now who's going to see them first in A, now there won't be juniors?

For the fifth time this year, hospital managers in England have

been busy putting plans in place for a strike by junior doctors.

But, unlike previous walk-outs in this long-running

and increasingly bitter dispute, today's action will

At Ipswich Hospital, they are braced for

To be honest, yes, I do feel a little bit between rock and a hard

place on this particular issue, but my responsibility is very clear.

My responsibility is for the safe, compassionate, high-quality care

of the 3000 people that come to this hospital every day that expect that.

That's what I have to concentrate on.

The rights, the wrongs, the issues are beyond me, really.

This strike by junior doc is in England will cover two days,

from eight in the morning to five o'clock in the afternoon

NHS England says more than 112,000 outpatient appointments will be hit

More than 12,700 planned operations will be cancelled.

The doctors' union, the BMA, has been criticised by some

But junior doctors argue that by threatening to impose

a new contract, the Government has left them with little choice.

In stretching us more thinly, in causing such a degree

of demoralisation and overstretch, Jeremy Hunt is going to endanger

patients in the long term, he is going to spread us too thiny,

and I can't possibly stand by and allow that to happen.

Ministers describe the strike action as extreme and say it will be deeply

Well, I could stop this strike by abandoning a manifesto promise

that the British people voted on just under a year ago

As I said, it was the first line of the first page of the manifesto,

And I don't think any union has the right to blackmail a government,

to force a government to abandon a manifesto promise that the British

It's difficult to see how the deadlock can be broken.

HughPym is alongside me here. Tell us how you think patient care will

be affected today? Everybody on the picket line would say they have been

reassured by their consultant colleagues, that full cover will be

provided. Talking to most hospitals, they say patients shouldn't be

concerned that essential care will be there, although people are being

urged not to go into A if they can avoid that. But I detect

apprehension. We have never been here before, but maybe some of the

smaller hospitals might struggle to cope. They might find it really

difficult. There are local agreements between the BMA and NHS

England to get people, doctors back into hospital if there is a major

incident for example. It's never happened before so it's hard to

gauge how things will pan out. Where do you think we go from here because

the two sides, the Government and the British Medical Association and

all these junior doctors on this picket line today are as far apart

as ever? They are as far apart as ever. There haven't been any talks

since February. The Government have made it clear, Jeremy Hunt again

this morning, the Health Secretary saying, this was a contract that he

wanted to introduce, it would be introduced and the BMA are saying

until they drop in position, this dispute will continue. The question

is how it happens today and tomorrow, what Tim pact is, the BMA

will have to look at that and then assess what they do next. I don't

sense there's any backing away -- the impact. People will be watching

as to whether some doctors have gone into work today maybe a little

concerned about the direction this dispute's taken. Thank you HughPym.

A crush during an FA Cup semi-final in Sheffield in 1989 resulted in the

deaths of 96 Liverpool fans. The inquest conclusions will be heard

today. Among the questions the jurors have had to answer is whether

they were unlawfully killed. Andy Gill is at the inquest in

Warrington. The jurors had to consider 14 questions in all. Tell

us what they have been looking at? That's right. The coroner gave them

a 14-point questionnaire asking them to consider issues such as, did any

errors or emissions in the police planning for the match in April 1989

contribute to the disaster? Did the behaviour of the fans contribute to

a crush which developed outside the ground before the fatal crush inside

the ground, were there errors and emissions in the emergency response

by the police and the South Yorkshire Ambulance Service which

contributed to the disaster? The key question is question 6, that is

where the 96 Liverpool fans who died unlawfully killed. To answer that

question yes, the coroner told the jury they had to decide if the match

commander, Chief Superintendent David Dukinfield owed a duty of care

to the fans of the match. If so, did he breach that care. Thirdly, did

the breach cause the deaths. Fourthly, was it bad enough to be

considered gross negligence manslaughter. This is an inquest,

its function is to find out who the people were who died and why they

died. It can't apportion blame or guilt as would happen in a criminal

court. The verdict conclusions are due at 11 o'clock, as you can see.

Already a queue developing. 300 people will be packed into the

courtroom, it's a ticket event only, such is the interest in this that

the events are being relayed to two other venues so that people who have

an interest, not just the families but other people as well, can watch

what is going on. Thank you. Scottish Power has been

fined ?18 million by the energy regulator Ofgem following an

investigation into failings of customer service.

Ofgem said Scottish Power's call handling, complaints procedure

and billing were all found to be inadequate - resulting

in one million complaints in two and a half years.

More than 3 hundred thousand customers received late bills.

It's the third biggest penalty ever imposed on an energy company.

That is a summary of the latest news. More at 9. 30. Back to

Victoria. We are at St Thomas' Hospital at a

picket lain. You can see some junior doctors.

CHANTING: Save our NHS, save our NHS...

Some have withdrawn from working on maternity wards. This is the first

time they have withdrawn emergency cover. Some of the people on the

picket line weren't due on shift today and are from other hospitals

and have come down to support them. We are going to talk to some of the

doctors here and the patients as well to hear what they think of it.

Before that, it's the sport. What a big night it was in the

Premier League title race. Leicester City are now just three points from

lifting the trophy and they've got West Brom to thank after a 1-1 draw

with second-placed Tottenham last night. It was a match that Spurs

needed to win to keep the pressure on at the top. They went ahead

through a Craig Dawson goal. The West Brom defender went from villain

to Leicester City hero in the second half, heading in the equaliser that

shattered Spurs' dreams. With Spurs seven points off the top,

it means Leicester can claim a first ever title with victory at

Manchester United at Old Trafford on Sunday. They'll have to do that

without Jamie Vardy though. He'll serve an additional one-match

suspension for his reaction to being sent off against West Ham last week.

Vardy who's been instrumental for the 22 league goals has been fined

?10,000. So, no Jamie Vardy, but I raise you

one former Leicester City striker in Paul Dikov who will know what a

title would mean for Leicester City, although does anyone know what it

would do? ! The story of them winning on Sunday would be

incredible? I wouldn't put it past them. People have been writing

Leicester off all season, come October November, people said they

wouldn't do it, then they beat the top clubs. People were saying they

might struggle against Sunderland, West Brom and south Tom tonnes, they

won those. West Ham, they said they blew it, then Jamie Vardy comes in

and scores two. It's fairytale stuff. People keep saying it but

it's fantastic. You have to give them credit. Anything put in front

of them, they've blown it away. Manchester City, put that hat on for

now. They have Real Madrid. What do you reckon they need to do if they

are going to progress? First and foremost, it's going to be a great

occasion. I think it's imperative tonight they keep a clean sheet and

Toure being out might slightly suit them with Fernandinho being part of

the back four. Real Madrid have the stars, but at the same time, they

are vulnerable defensively as well with Aguero and De Bruyne, Silva

coming back, the one thing I do think, there'll be a lot of goals

over both legs. You talk about it being such a great occasion. This is

just like Leicester City in a way, fairytale stuff. You were with the

club 15, 16 years ago. This is unfathomable? It is. I look back to

League One, pushing for the play-offs, we were 12th at

Christmas, people run us off, we were cleaning our own kit because we

didn't have the laundry equipment. I'm pleased for a lot of people at

the club, the owners have thrown a lot of money at it. There are a lot

of people still working there. I signed in 95-96 season, for the

fans, they followed us all the way through. Terrible spell. Times are

changing at City. Paul Dickov will be on the terraces cheering like the

best of them. Thanks for joining us today. It's all going on. Victoria,

back to you. Thank you very much. It's a bright,

freezing cold morning here in Central London. We have got Big Ben

on one side of Westminster Bridge and St Thomas' Hospital on this side

of Westminster Bridge where you can see the picket line, striking junior

doctors. Today, the first over all-out strike by the doctors in

England. In the NHS, you probably know this is unprecedented.

Thousands of doctors involved in front line care won't be working in

A departments. On maternity wards, cancer wards. Doctors began their

action an hour and 15 minutes ago and are due to end at 5 today. Then

they'll do the same again tomorrow. It's all over a row over their new

contracts, contracts which England's Health Secretary is now going to

impose on them. We'll talk to plenty of doctors in a moment and we'll

hear from patients and polices. Jim Reid looks at how we got to this

point first. What is this strike really about? Junior doctors are

unhappy with the new employment contract, rolled out in August

through the country. Who will it affect? 55,000 junior doctors in

England, one in three doctors across the whole NHS. They are not

students, anyone local consultant and GP level. They can add ten years

experience. They should macro they can have. Government wants to raise

basic wages by 13.5%. That comes at a price. Doctors have two

complaints, the first over unsocial hours. Doctors get paid more if they

get rated on after 7pm and Saturday and Sunday. The government must cut

that back, 10pm in the week, 5pm on the weekend. We are here to improve

patient safety, tired doctors kill patients. We feel in hospital,

people are not getting a fair deal. We feel junior doctors, staffing

problems will be worse and worse. We'll doctors lose out? Rumbly not

to start with. The gunmen has promised to protect a for three

years. This is not about winners and losers on day one. In time doctors

are worried they will regularly be forced to work weekends and evenings

for less money. Guaranteed pay rises are also being scrapped. That means

they could earn less in the long run. Studies have suggested that

patients admitted at the weekend are more likely to die. Experts cannot

agree why, or whether anything could be done. The government says the new

contract will let it bring in a save NHS, seven days a week. We don't

want to cut the pay going to junior doctors, we want to change the face

structures, forcing faster -- hospitals to greater three times

less cover at weekends. Doctors say they will strip back safeguards,

forcing people to work excessive hours, making things more risky for

patients. Talks have broken down completely. The government have said

they will go ahead with the new contract in August. More industrial

action is likely. Today we will see junior doctors in accidents and

emergencies walk-out, the first strike of its kind in its history in

the NHS. Jeremy Hunt called the walk-out and incredibly sad day for

the NHS, calling on the BMA to get around the table for more talks. We

have had talks over three years now. 75 meetings to try and resolve this.

The outstanding issue, Saturday pay, the main stumbling block to the

agreement, we are offering doctors more pay on Saturdays than nurses,

health care assistants working in operating theatres, a fair deal.

Many people would say is it proportionate or appropriate to

withdraw emergency care for patients for the sake of getting more pay at

the weekend. Let's have a look at some of the banners. Junior doctors

try King, and other colleagues coming down here, not due to work,

but supporting them. Let's talk to various people we have

here. Here outside St Thomas's Hospital

in London we've brought together 3 junior doctors who are striking

today and three members of the public who don't believe

they should be on strike. Dr Jenny Hao is a junior doctor

working in A at Queen Elizabeth hospital in Woolwich,

London. Jenny is striking today

but reluctantly. Dr Kitty Mohan,

who is also striking. She is on the BMA Junior Doctor

Committee and involved in the negotiations

over this new contract Dr Shehzad Kunmar is a junior

doctor at William Harvey He's planning on moving

abroad next year - because of the new contract

and the pressures facing the NHS. Also with us Sumita Mapara,

who works in a nursery in London. Robert Tyler, a student

from Buckinghamshire And James Glenister, who is a 2nd

year medical student at University College London,

and Vice-Chair of the University's Jenny, you work in A? This

decision to withdraw emergency cover today, how have you reached this

point? It has been really difficult. For me, very sad to see it come to

this point. I want to reiterate, all our consultants have come in to

cover us, 8am to five p.m.. Not the night shifts stop those consultants

covering for you, in the meantime you have walked out on your

patients. Actually I was not scheduled to work until Thursday, it

was not such a dilemma. But I've come to support the cause we feel so

strongly about. How is this proportionate? It is proportionate,

because it has taken us three years to get it. We have tried

negotiation, we have tried marches, petitions, every other form of

industrial action. Why this escalation? Why will the Health

Secretary take notice because of this kind of action? We feel we have

to take this action, in order to get them to listen. Frankly, at the

moment nothing else has worked. We really need the threat of the

contract position to be removed in order for us to have a proper

negotiation over the contract. Let me ask you, various people have

said, taking thousands of doctors out of front line emergency care in

England cannot be done without letting patients at greater risk. I

have heard this argument quite a lot. There are numerous occasions

where there are lack of doctors on the shop floor. Christmas Day,

Boxing Day. Three times a year or junior doctors change rotations. At

that point, when we are having induction for one day or a few

hours, consultants are looking after the patients. It is just like that.

Senior doctors are covering. Why is the medical director of the NHS in

England saying this action puts additional strain on A, maternity

care and emergency services. Particularly in smaller hospitals?

In smaller hospitals, the situation with the lack of funding, rotor

gaps, those are the situations which brought us here in the first place.

That situation will only get worse if we don't take industrial action.

You are all members of the public, going about normal student

activities, tell our junior doctors what you think of this action? I was

going to ask them, lots of appointments being cancelled, when

will they catch up with those appointments? If you are going to be

striking, I understand the strike will take place today and tomorrow,

I don't know how many appointments will be cancelled. As it is, we are

short of doctors in this country. How long will it take? I believe the

routine outpatient clinic procedures have been cancelled. There is no

strike back and happen without inconvenient. Note urgent procedure

is having cancelled. No immediate risk to the public. How do you know

there is no immediate risk? Because every patient who needs to see a

doctor urgently can see a very competent doctor. What do you think

of this right? The thing about the strike, the public has sympathy for

the doctors at the moment. There is a huge risk if they keep calling

civil action the public will lose sympathy for the doctors, like the

drivers and taxi drivers. The message the doctors are trying to

get across will not resonate with the public anymore. Do you still

support it? I do at this stage. But if they keep going on strike, acting

like student radicals, they will become known for going on strike. I

am not part of any party political affiliation. I am literally here as

a junior doctor, the reason I have withdrawn my labour is because I've

been a junior doctor for eight years, throughout that time I have

not heard anyone listening to the concerns we have had on the shop

floor. The past few months have exacerbated that situation. If the

Department of Health does not listen to people on the shop floor, who

worked day in, day out, you can not come to a mutual agreement to move

forward and the future of the NHS. The Department of Health said you

had three years to come forward and renegotiate the contract. You have

not. You have waited until the last minute to push the little button.

You could have resolved this? The problem here, I am a medical

student, as well as being a member of the Conservative Society. I am

torn on this. Up until this point I do fully support the strike. When I

joined this profession I am nervous that the public will turn on us.

Julie on emergency care they will make this decision. The Times put it

quite well, once you enter strike action event of the world of

politics and leave medicine. ID crossing the line? Today has to be

one of the saddest days of my professional career standing on this

picket line. Have you crossed the line? We are here because there was

no other option for us. This is the first time this has occurred in the

UK for junior doctors, we know our consultant colleagues are supporting

us. We are incredibly happy with the level of public support we have had

today. James does have a point. Because of the withdrawal emergency

cover the president of situation, the public support might but to

Wayne? It is a genuine concern. I would love to see a way out of this.

Jeremy Hunt has all always the BMA are not negotiating well. We are all

eloquent people we will be happy to talk to him. He's avoiding talking

to us at all. We don't want to attack him, but we would like to

enter meaningful negotiation. Do it? We have been trying for a good few

months. It was the Department of Health who stepped out of

negotiations. They are not willing to negotiate now. Even last week,

the chairman of the Junior Doctors Committee requested to meet with

Jamie Hunt, meet with the Department of Health and come back to

meaningful negotiations. All that resulted in was the Secretary of

State came back onto TV, saying the contract is going to be imposed,

like it or lump it. They were expecting you to withdraw today's

strike action. We would do that. Number ten say, David Cameron

believes it is irresponsible of junior doctors to withdraw emergency

cover. Jeremy Hunt has the full support of the Prime Minister for

his handling of this dispute. As a member of the public how has Jeremy

Hunt handled it? To be honest, both sides of handled it terribly. The

BMA and the Department of Health are scared of losing face, why they are

clashing. If both of them would accept the fact neither can win,

coming to negotiation, they will be a solution. Neither side is willing

to back down, neither side wants to be the loser. The gunmen have

calculated that they think they can win. Jeremy Hunt has full support

from the Downing Street and Treasury departments. If you ask most people

in the street, are you surprised the government has handled this badly,

most people would say no. If you point a position where the

government has been awful, you would point to tax credit cuts this

ability cuts. If you asked the public are you surprised junior

doctors are withdrawing emergency care, that the surprise a lot of

people. It is after you have the most to lose. This could be a

mistake. We have comments from people watching to you discuss this.

Right around the country. A tweet, totally support the junior doctors,

the government needs to listen to those people, not bully them. An

e-mail, I'm a patient, and the doctor, and require an urgent

operation. It has been this phone twice, in which time I get worse. If

doctors are worried about lack of funding, why do they realise they

are part of the solution? Proposing a pay cut to balance the NHS books.

We have much more of that to come. We will talk to the Conservative MP,

Andrew Jenkins after the news and sport. Junior doctors at hospitals

across England have begun an all-out strike for the first time in history

the NHS. They will not provide emergency care. It is a fifth strike

in a long-running dispute, when talks about a new contract breakdown

in 2014. Jeremy Hunt says it is a very bleak day for the NHS. Those

striking state is necessary. We feel we have to take this action to get

them to listen. Frankly at the moment nothing else has worked. We

really need the threat. We needed to be removed for us to have a proper

negotiation over the contract. The crush in Sheffield in 1989

resulted in the deaths of 96 Among the questions

the fans must answer Is, were they unlawfully killed. Ben

Brown is at the inquest in Warrington.

What is happening? You can see some of the families here. The verdict

will be announced at 11 o'clock. It's been a long, long wait to the

questions that the families have, 27 years ago 96 fans lost their lives

at that FA Cup semi-final. It's been a two-year set of inquests here in

Warrington. The jury of nine have heard from hundreds of witnesses,

they've watched hundreds of hours of video footage and Waded through

thousands of documents for two years. Now, finally, we are going to

have their findings and answers to 14 key questions that have been put

to them by the coroner about a whole range of issues. The design of the

stadium, the behaviour of the fans, the response of the emergency

services, the match planning and so on. The key question is - were the

96 Liverpool fans unlawfully killed? That is question 6. Now, to say

that, then the jury have been told they have to be clear that the match

commander on the day, David Dukinfield had a duty of care to the

fans that he was in breach of, and was in breach of through gross

negligence. That is the key question, question 6. We'll get the

answers, the findings of the jury, from 11 o'clock this morning here in

Warrington. Thank you, Ben.

Scottish Power have been fined ?18 million by the energy regulator

Ofgem following an investigation into failings of customer service.

Ofgem said Scottish Power's call handling complaints procedure and

billing were all found to be inadequate, resulting in a million

complaints in two-and-a-half years. It's the third biggest penalty ever

imposed on an energy company. Branches of BHS have opened their

doors this morning but administrators are concentrating on

finding a buyer for all or part of the business. The former owner of

BHS, Sir Phillip Green, has been criticised in the Commons for the

way he managed the business before selling it last year. The company

which employs around 11,000 people went into administration yesterday

with significant debt and a half a billion pound deficit in its pension

fund. The Business Minister, Anna Soubry, said there were no plans for

redundancies while efforts to find a buyer get under way.

There's been a lot of comment and speculation about British home

stores' pension scheme and it is a fact that the pension regulator is

investigating a number of concerns and indeed allegations. BHS staff

and the public will want to know whether the former owner who took so

many millions out of business will have to pay his fair share of the

liabilities which accrued during his stewardship.

MPs have voted against an attempt to force the Government to allow 3,000

uncompanied child refugees into the UK from mainland Europe. Ministers

argued that offering sanctuary to lone children who've already reached

mainland Europe could mean more of them fall into the hands of

traffickers. The Metropolitan Police commissioner, Sir Bernard

Hogan-Howe, says detect Incs investigating the disappearance of

Madeleine McCann have a single line of inquiry. ?95,000 was given to

complete the qiemplt he told LBC Radio this morning that he and the

officers involved believed there was a need to pursue the outstanding

lead but once concluded, the inquiry would end. The editor of

Bangladesh's only gay rights magazine has been hacked to death in

the capital Dhaka. He worked for the US embassy. He was killed by a group

of men who entered his apartment posing as couriers. Police have

blamed Islamist militants for a succession of such killings.

Demonstrators have gathered in North Carolina to support or oppose a

controversial new law affecting transgender people. Under the law,

people have to use public toilets that match the sex on their birth

certificate, not the one which they identify with. President Obama says

the law is discriminatory against France gender people. Some companies

warn they will withdraw from North Carolina unless the law is repealed.

Ceremonies are being held in Ukraine to mark 30 years since the Chernobyl

disaster, the worst nuclear accident. Earlier this morning

candles were lit and prayers said at the exact time an explosion tore

through the nuclear plant's reactor four in 1986. Levels of

radioactivity remain here in the -- high in the area and babies are

still being born with deformcities. The European Space Agency's launched

a satellite to get a better understanding of the effects of the

climate change. The Soyuz lifted off from France last night. It carries a

radar to provide all-weather day and night images of the surfaces. That

is a summary, more at ten. Now the sport with Ore.

Thank you. Leicester City surely have one hand on the Premier League

trophy right now. They are just one win away from the title after

second-placed Tottenham lost ground on the leaders with a 1-1 draw

against West Brom. It means Spurs are seven points off the top with

just three to play. Leicester could claim the title as

soon as Sunday should they beat Manchester United at Old Trafford,

but they'll have to do it without this man, Jamie Vardy. The striker

has accepted an additional match suspension for his reaction to

getting sent off against West Ham last week. He's been fined ?10,000

too. Ronnie O'Sullivan is out of the World Snooker Championship. He was

beaten in a nail-biting deciding frame by Barry Hawkins at the

Crucible. It's the first time O'Sullivan's failed to reach the

quarter-finals there for 13 years. Could a comeback be on the cards for

Tiger Woods? The 14-time major champion has registered for the US

Open and has played his first holes of golf since August. That is all

the sport for now, back in 25 minutes' time. Back to Central

London to join Victoria. Good morning. It's a very cold

morning, probably going to be the last time I mention that because

that's probably annoying for all those out on picket lines who're

very cold. It's bright at least. We are outside St Thomas' Hospital.

It's unprecedented strike action, the first time that junior doctors

in gland have ever withdrawn emergency cover. It's being describe

add does first ever full walkout by junior doctors. Plenty of notices

around from junior doctors to their colleagues. People of the NHS for

the first time in the history of the NHS, junior doctors will be taking

full strike action, we wanted to thank you for all of your support

and in your break come and say hello to those outside, thank you for all

your amazing support. So busy here in Central London. Motorists are

driving by, beeping their horns, that shows support for the people on

the picket line here. Let's just try and grab a couple on the picket line

if we can. Hello. Hi, good morning, hello, hi, good morning, Sir, hi.

Victoria from BBC News, how are you? I'm good. Tell our add Jens about

this decision that you have made today? Well, it's extremely

difficult a decision, as you can imagine. But it just got to a point

where we've got to stand up to the Government really and we've got to

protect our patients' safety. How is what you are doing today,

withdrawing emergency cover, proteching patient' safety? We have

made sure that those inside the hospital are backing us and that

they are providing full support for us. We have made sure that none of

our patients today are in any harm. But if you look at what the

Government are trying to introduce, they are trying to introduce totally

unsafe contracts. The rotas they publish for my special team in

critical care are completely inadequate for the patients. Do you

think today will change anything? Sadly, I think the debate's got far

too emotional. I think that Jeremy Hunt has become entrenched in his

position. And your own union, the BMA, are they entrenched too? We've

constantly reiterated to Jeremy Hunt that we are happy to negotiate. We

would love it if we came back to the table together. We have been

offering options to him all week and it's quite clear from his comments

that he's absolutely refusing to negotiate or come to any sort of

compromise. If the strike action today doesn't change things, what

will you consider? I think we've got to keep on fighting. We will

continue to come out on strike until such time as Jeremy Hunt sees sense.

Would you go on an indefinite walkout? We won't do anything to

harm our patients. I think we've just got to consider that option

really. Support from somebody beeping their

horn there. Thank you for joining us today. Thank you. As you have been

hearing this morning, long hours, stressful procedures, unsociable

shifts, rotas that are unsustainable. Juniors have

explained they are at breaking point, exhausted unable to take on

extra hours for less pay. They have walked out on emergency cover for

the first time ever. It will finish at 5 this afternoon. The same thing

will happen tomorrow. Ahead of this, we asked one A doctor, Sarah

Williams, to cord herself as she worked a series of night shifts.

Here is her story. I do not know if I could work any

harder than I do. I do not know if I could work any more night shifts

than I do. And it makes me wonder whether I have it in me to continue

in this profession for the rest of my career. Hi, there, my name is Sir

video Williams, I'm 34 years old and I'm a junior doctor. I'm just about

to start my third night shift in a row. My last day off was ten days

ago. I'd better go and get handover and

I'll catch up later. It's about 5am, I'm taking my first

break of the shift, grabbing a coffee to get me through the last

few hours. It's been a fairly steady shift. We are, however, a doctor

down this evening which is fairly usual and because of this, I've

spent a large part of the shift in miners. The time spent in there has

been on my own for the most part alongside some of my nursing

colleagues. Hopefully, with three hours to go, it will stay as it is

and I'll be able to get out of here on time.

It's now about 9. 30am, I've not long been home from work. I'll soon

be heading off to get some sleep in preparation for tonight's shift. I

am pretty exhausted. I think I've seen everything last night from

sporting injuries, drunken injuries, through to very sad tragic cases of

women with pregnancy complications. I do not know if I could work any

harder than I do. I do not know if I could work any more night shifts

than I do. It makes me wonder whether I have it in me to continue

in this profession for the rest of my career.

With that in mind, I'm going to sign off now and get that much-needed

sleep and hopefully we'll feel differently once I've had some rest

-- I will feel differently once I've had some rest.

Hi, there. It's the fourth final night shift for me tonight. I think

it's fair to say, compared to la night, it's fairly typical and

fairly busy. The wait time is already at four hours when I came on

to shift. Unfortunately, due to patient numbers, that's now at

approximately six hours. With wait times such as those, obviously it

becomes fairly tense, patients become agitated having to wait so

long. We have already had a certain amount of verbal abuse in the

department and unfortunately, we have also seen a fairly violent

physical assault of a member of staff in the waiting room.

I cannot and I it is tough to night. A bit of a struggle. Eight o'clock

cannot come around soon enough and stop I have hit the point of

exhaustion. Difficult at this time to say anything particularly

positive about the job stop as I have said before, I love what I do,

and for the most part it is fairly enjoyable. On nights like this,

fairly difficult to really see through just the waiting time that

is ever-increasing. As hard as you work it does not seem to improve. I

guess I should get back down onto the shop floor, see how many more

patients there are. Look forward to getting home, finally getting some

rest. OK. Thanks for listening. Sarah Williams, with her video

diary. Outside St Thomas 's Hospital, we will is the to Andrew

Jenkins, Conservative MP, chair on the all-party group on patient

safety. Chris James, junior doctor, should have been working in A

today. I was scheduled to do eight o'clock to five o'clock, I am

striking. Doctor Howard Khan. I am not a consultant, I'm in a any

doctor. You will be covering the strike tomorrow. Jeremy Corbyn has

just tweeted this, I am with the junior doctors. Andrei Jenkins, you

are not, why? It has come down to a pay dispute. 70 meetings between the

government and the BMA, three years of discussions, what I would like to

know, would you be striking today had you got your Saturday pay

demands? For me, to call it a pay dispute... Would you be striking

today? It is a fundamental misunderstanding it is about

Saturday pay. That is not what makes a stand here and strike. Had you got

the Saturday demands? It is not about it. We're having a

issue. Not about the Saturday issue. Not about the Saturday

premium pay. It is about recruitment and retention, quality and

stretching a five-day service which you cannot already staff into seven

days. This issue is not about Saturday pay, the issue is the

contract will create unsafe working patterns, doctors working unsafe

hours. You would not get onto the aircraft if you knew the pilot had

been working 100 hours on the truck. Also about the discrimination that

the government's owner quality assessment found against females.

Yes, absolutely they would have been striking even if the Saturday issue

had been resolved. The BMA has had 90% of what they demanded. That is

incorrect. I have been elected very recently. 90% has been agreed. You

say unsafe hours, I wholeheartedly agree. At the end of the day, I am

all about patient safety, after losing my own father. Nathan Baker

champion then me for patient safety. The maximum is 72 hours, that is

less hours. The 30% pay increase, this comes down to Saturday pay. It

is not about patient safety. Think about the 150,000 patients affected

by this strike. Why are striking. Why is the Patients' Association

supporting us? How do you feel this is proportionate? There is a

misunderstanding about what we cover in A I met my clinical director

in A There are the same amount of doctors covering today as they would

be junior doctors. That is in inconveniences you. I'm incredibly

saddened about that. In terms of patient safety. Difficult people

could be outrage, we have filled our GMC regulations. You are not

outraged by a contract which will create huge patient safety harm. Why

is the Patients' Association supporting it? There has been 10,000

more doctors since 2010, the government... You were not in

government. The government is investing a further ?10 million

extra into the NHS. Part of that money going to train 11,000 more

doctors. We're not expecting five-day cover to suddenly be

expanded to seven-day cover. This comes down to Saturday papers

unfortunately, you are going to lose all your doctors. Because we're not

paying them enough. What about the nurses? I want to be in

anaesthetics, ending up in intensive care. We need training, we are

drowning in provision. I want is a world-class health service for

world-class doctors. We need to get back on the table and start talking.

Jeremy Hunt offer the BMA another meeting yesterday. It is a contract

that is unfair. The BMA turned down the meeting. It is not a negotiation

if you have imposed stuff. It is a very complex issue. What we deal

with every day is complex. You have to calmly look at it. Look at the

facts and the issues. We work hard together to tease out those things.

If you want a seven-day NHS, work with us. I live and breathe this

service. So do I. What is really interesting, this is a micro

illustration of Jeremy Hunt, England's Health Secretary and the

BMA. You are clearly as far apart as ever. There are patients,

colleagues, taxpayers, voters, wondering, how on earth are you two

going to get around the table. Explain this? We are where we are

now? There is potentially going to be another all-out right tomorrow.

Then what should happen? And I make the BMA's position clear. They want

Jeremy Hunt to stop this unilateral position. The strike could be called

off tomorrow. Dictatorial? What are you doing to the British public? You

are holding them to ransom. The public are supporting us. 150,000

patients. Your own MPs. They are supporting us. The Patients'

Association supporting us, poll after poll shows the public are

supporting us. Do you think it is right you get a higher Saturday pay

premium? Than other NHS workers? Other public sector workers? I am

going to interrupt. That is slightly disingenuous, to state is nothing to

do with Saturday pay is not Saturday pay is part of the whole contract

issue, not what makes us stand outside it. Sony more issues that we

need to sort out first. If you park that to one side, sort out

everything else, that is the last thing I want to speak about. Thank

you for your time. Illustration of the fact there is a long way to go,

it would appear before this dispute can be resolved. Coming up to ten

o'clock, we will bring you the latest news and sport in the next

minute. Before that, let's talk about Leicester City, one game away

from winning the English Premier League, following Tottenham's Drogba

West Brom. Leicester need to beat Manchester United on Sunday to lift

the trophy. Just beat Manchester United! This from the club at the

start of the season given odds of 2000-1 to win the title. We have

been following the story through the eyes of two fans keeping a diary for

us. # Two Tribes -

Frankie Goes To Hollywood. Apparently a woman run the BBC

saying there is a Harry Kane on the way. If you're watching, don't

worry, there is not. -- there is a Hurricane. Anyone faces start,

Leicester City, one game away from being crowned Premier League

champions. It is Sunday morning. I have just literally woken up. It is

match day. It is a match day Sunday, the local pub. Just happens to be my

daughter's birthday. We are Leicester City, not just Jamie

Vardy. We will continue our campaign today to house the. We are after the

match. It is frankly's 26th birthday. A great view of the cake.

It says where we are, we have suffered. Happy birthday to you. --

we are top of the league. Here we are, the king Power Stadium, for

today's fixture. Such an important game.

We have to make a few changes to our line-up. We without Jamie Vardy. I

have gone against all tradition, Brownlees scar. We have still lost

Big Anne. Just making my way to the stadium, we are going to bring off

the roof. It is game on, just before kick-off. About to go in. I am

nervous. We have just come out from seeing

Leicester City winning 4-0. Are we going to do it? Looking good. 4-0,

they said we were frail. The Foxes ether Cockrell is. We're

coming for you Tottenham. -- eat Cockrells.

I love those video diaries. I do hope Big Anne is OK. The diaries on

our web page. Coming up to ten o'clock. It is very cold, Carol has

the weather across the UK. This morning it is cold, we have an

icy wind, some wintry showers. Between the showers, you can expect

some sunshine. They continue across Scotland, across the East Coast.

Some coming towards the West, most of those coming into the hills.

Widespread across the afternoon, some of them will be thundery.

Temperatures 6-12. Between the wind, feeling more like 1-8. Another date

for wrapping up warm. Overnight, hanging onto a lot of showers, the

wind easing down the touch looking at the risk of ice over surfaces,

quite a widespread frost. Something to bear in mind first thing in the

morning. Where we have clear skies overnight, we will have them in the

morning. Relatively sunny note. Showers claiming with the wind in

East Anglia. A similar scenario in the West. Mixture of rain, sleet,

hail and possibly fund. -- thunder. welcome to the programme if you've

just joined us. Junior doctors in England have begun

an all out strike for the first time We're outside an A hospital

in central London where throughout the programme we'll hear

from doctors, politicians and those affected by today's strike;

the latest action in a dispute with the government over a new

contract which the Health Secretary Tell us why you have withdrawn

emergency cover today? I have withdrawn because I think the new

contract is really unsafe. It's not fair to doctors and it's not fair to

my patients. Thank you for talking to us. Much more from the junior

doctors here throughout the programme. We'll also hear from

patients as well and others affected by today's strike, the latest in a

dispute with the Government over that new contract which England's

Health Secretary is going to impose on junior doctors.

No union, however strong, powerful, good they are at gaining public

sympathy, has a right to stop a Government implementing a manifesto

voted for by the British people. Also on the programme,

the jury at the inquests into the deaths of 96 football fans

at Hillsborough will begin delivering its conclusions

in about an hour's time after listening to

evidence for two years. We'll hear from two people whose

lives were changed by Seeing all those fans on the ground

dying, in trouble, and there was nothing I could do.

We did have the push back to the sides and stuff like that, but it

wasn't the norm even then, the first one. Once the second one happened,

we knew then, just everybody just knew then how bad it was.

Good Morning, welcome to the BBC Newsroom,

Junior doctors at hospitals across England have begun an all-out

strike this morning and for the first time in

the history of the NHS they will not provide emergency care.

It's the fifth strike in a long running dispute,

which began when talks about a new contract

The Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt says it's a very bleak

Those striking say it's absolutely necessary.

I find it difficult that people can be outraged. You are not outwageth

raged about the contract, the recruitment and retention issues

that will cause patients harm. You are going to lose all the doctors.

It's come down to a pay dispute. There's been over 70 meetings

between the Government and the BMA, over three years of discussions and

what I would like to know with the junior doctors and the BMA, would

you be striking today had you got your Saturday pay demands?

The longest running inquest hearing in British legal history will draw

to a close this morning when the jury, considering

the Hillsborough disaster, returns its conclusions.

A crush during an FA Cup semi final in Sheffield in 1989 resulted

Among the questions the nine jurors must answer is whether or not

Ben Brown is at the inquest in Warrington.

Ben, in all, the jurors had to consider 14 questions. Tell us which

areas they cover? Yes, that is right Joanna. 14

questions. You can see some of the relatives behind me who're queueing

up to get into the coroner's court to hear the answers from the jury,

the nine-member jury, to the 14 questions. The jury have been

listening to evidence here at this coroner's court for two years, the

longest legal proceedings in British legal history. So the 14 questions

concern a wide range of issues around the disaster, planning and

preparation by the police for the match, the stadium design and

safety, the behaviour of the fans, the response to the emergency

services, but the critical question and the question really that the

relatives in a sense are most interested in is question 6 - were

the 96 Liverpool fans at Hillsborough unlawfully killed? For

the jury to say that, the coroner's directed that they have to answer a

number of questions - was the match commander on the day, David

Dukinfield, the Chief Superintendent, did he have a duty

of care for the fans, was he in breach of that duty of care for the

fans, if there was a breach of duty of care, did that cause the death of

the fans and, was that breach of care through gross negligence?

Manslaughter by gross negligence? If they say yes to those questions and

find a conclusion of unlawful killing, that will be one of the

results of the jury here. 14 questions, as you say, we should get

the answers from the jury in an hour's time. That is when they'll

start to deliver their conclusions after these two years of

proceedings. Scottish Power has been fined

?18 million by the energy regulator Ofgem, following an investigation

into failings of customer service. Ofgem said Scottish Power's call

handling, complaints procedure and billing were all found to be

inadequate, resulting in one million It's the third biggest penalty ever

imposed on an energy company. Branches of BHS have

opened their doors this morning but administrators are now

concentrating on finding a buyer Meanwhile, the former owner of BHS,

Sir Philip Green, has been criticised in the Commons

for the way he managed the business The company, which employs

around 11 thousand people, went into administration yesterday

with significant debt, and a half a billion pound deficit

in its pension fund. The business minister, Anna Soubry,

said there were no plans for redundancies while efforts

to find a buyer get under way. MPs have voted against an attempt

to force the Government to allow 3,000 unaccompanied child

refugees into the UK Ministers argued that offering

sanctuary to lone children who have already reached mainland Europe

could mean more of them fall The Japanese car maker Mitsubishi

has admitted that a testing system used to cheat vehicle emissions

figures has been in operation The company's vice president told

a news briefing the system had been in use for Japan's

domestic market since 1991, but he didn't know how many

models were affected. Mitsubishi has lost half its stock

market value since news The editor of Bangladesh's only gay

rights magazine has been hacked to death in the capital Dhaka

the latest in a series of attacks on secular

writers and activists. Xulhaz Mannan, who worked for the US

embassy, was killed by a group of men who entered his apartment

by posing as couriers. Police have blamed Islamist

militants for a succession Ceremonies are being held in Ukraine

today to mark 30 years since the Chernobyl disaster,

the world's worst nuclear accident. Earlier this morning,

candles were lit and prayers said at the exact time an explosion tore

through the nuclear Levels of radioactivity remain high

in the surrounding area and babies are still being born

with serious deformities. The European Space Agency has

launched a satellite to get a better understanding of the effects

of climate change. The Soyuz rocket carrying

the satellite lifted off last The satellite carries an advanced

radar to provide all-weather, day-and-night images of the Earth's

surface and is part of a larger Now here is Ore with the sport.

It was a big night in the Premier League title race last night.

Leicester City are now just three points from lifting the trophy and

they've got West Brom to thank after a 1-1 draw with second place

Tottenham. It was a match that Spurs really needed to win to keep the

pressure on at the top. They went ahead through a Craig Dawson own

goal, but West Brom defender went from villain to Leicester City hero,

heading in the equaliser that shattered Spurs' dreams.

Leicester can claim a first ever title with victory over Manchester

United at Old Trafford on Sunday, but they'll have to do it without

Jamie Vardy. He accepted an additional one-match suspension for

improper conduct after being sent off against West Ham last week.

Vardy's been instrumental for Leicester with 22 goals sofar this

season. He's been fined ?10,000. The biggest night in Manchester

City's European history awaits as they prepare to take on Real Madrid

in their Champions League semi-final first leg. City will be without

midfielder Yaya Toure who's struggling with a thigh injury.

Vincent confirm knee is fit to play. It's set to be a special night.

They've never reached this stage of the competition. For Paul Dickov,

it's a far cry from their days in the Football League -- Vincent

Kompany. We were cleaning our own kit last year because we didn't have

the laundry equipment, people wrote us off. Emergency services pleased

for a lot of people at the club. The owners have kept it going. I signed

in 95-96. For the fans who followed us all the way through that terrible

spell when we were struggling, for them to have success now is

magnificent. The quarter-final stage of snooker will take place without

Ronnie O'Sullivan, beat none a last frame decider by Barry Hawkins. He'd

come back from 12-9 down to take the match to a decider. Hawkins advanced

13-12 setting up a meeting with Marco Fu.

Someone who knows all the ups and downs of football in this country, a

staunch villa fan and it's the Hollywood star Tom Hanks who says

he's made a few pounds out of the title race. Have a look at this.

Aston Villa have been relegated. Are you trying to make me cry on TV like

that? That's bad, but do you know what I did at the beginning of this

season, I put ?100 on Leicester City winning the season. Maybe I did,

maybe I didn't. You should find somebody who decided to put ?25 on

their local football club, they are going to be millionaires. Very nice

to meet you. Pleasure. Even if he did or didn't, I don't think Tom

Hanks needs those pounds! Back to you.

Good morning, it's Tuesday morning. For the first time in the history of

the NHS, downior doctors are not providing emergency care. We are at

St Thomas' Hospital in Central London, not far from the Palace of

Westminster. It's just over Westminster bridge over there. We

have got junior doctors here who've withdrawn labour from accident and

emergency, from the maternity wards and the ones we have spoken to this

morning have been adamant that patient safety will not be at risk

today. They say consultants, senior doctors covering behind them will

make sure of that, and that they have the support of the consultants.

That is the picture here in one hospital in England. Let us go to

Ipswich Hospital. We are outside the A department. I

can't imagine a year ago that anyone, least of all hospital

bosses, could have imagined it would come to this, that junior doctors

would walk out of accident and emergency, intensive care, maternity

units and even crash and resuscitation teams. The doctors

union's said that hospitals have had six weeks to prepare for this, but

how exactly are hospitals coping? With me is Nick Hulme, the Chief

Executive at Ipswich. Nick, are you worried about anything? You say

you've got senior staff on board to cover things but some consultants

perhaps may not have taken blood in a while, filled out X-ray forms, how

are you coping with that? When we knew this strike was going to

happen, we looked at contingencies. We had to talk to consultants to

ensure they felt confident and comfortable with what we were asking

them to do, so we have provided additional training, somecologith

consultants are Rusty on life supports, so we have provided

training. Advanced life support, should people be worried about that

if consultants are Rusty on that? Not at all, it's a refresher course,

they were confident, they just wanted additional support in terms

of making sure they were used the using the most up-to-date equipment

and what have you. In terms of taking blood and X-rays, we have

additional support staff around today who can support them in that.

So you are absolutely right, they haven't worked on the front line for

some time, so we have had to provide that additional training to make

sure they can do that. 122 junior doctors could have gone on strike

today from your hospital. How many have? 99 have gone out on strike, so

23 have come in which is the highest number we have seen on any strike

day so far. Not surprising because some doctors feel as though that

step of the all-out strike for emergency cover is just too far for

their consciences and they have come in to support us today.

Thank you very much. Perhaps some rift there between the junior

doctors developing. Across the road from here is the picket line and

plenty of others across the country. Let's join my colleague Phil Macy at

Warwick Hospital now. You can see the picket line behind

me there. That's grown throughout the morning. There was about a dozen

people there when they came out. 30 or 40 people have joined the picket

line here. This is a typical District General Hospital. The

impact here is on, not just the A department but maternity care, as

well as the intensive care units. What the hospital's said is that

it's got consultants in, as is the case in Ipswich and everywhere else,

the cover the gaps on the rota and to ensure patient safety. They have

had to make a lot of cancellations despite that, 22 clinics cancelled

today and tomorrow, 29 elective operations that will have an impact

on hundreds of people and a knock-on effect on those who'll be pushed

further back whilst awaiting those operations. Certainly today it

appears there is still a great deal of support out here. People beeping

horns, you heard one there, but nobody criticising them. The key

thing is they want to maintain that public support if the strike is to

continue. strength Bankia on Westminster

Bridge, Norman Smith, our political Guru is here. -- back here on

Westminster Bridge. The political reaction this morning? Pretty

uncompromising, from Jeremy Hunt and Downing Street. Downing Street

saying the withdrawal of emergency services is irresponsible. Doctors

have a 13.5% pay rise, what are they striking about? Jeremy Hunt getting

backing, he says he wants to remain Health Secretary for several more

years. He says he has a big job to do. All of that translated, they

have drawn a line in the sand. Not for backing down, giving ground,

determined to see it through. I think the game plan is two fold.

They hope public support may begin to fray for the GPs and doctors.

They hope the BMA national leadership will put the squeeze on

the Junior Doctors Committee of the BMA, who the gunmen believe are much

more hardline than the national membership. They hope that may break

the dispute. Let's find out more about public support, whether or not

it is fraying? Members of the public, welcome to the programme.

Two junior doctors on strike. I know you will all introduce yourselves.

Are you supporting the escalation of the strike? I support the junior

doctors, but I'm struggling with the morals around the strikes today. I

am anti-strike, but supporting the doctors. I'm in the same position, I

support the doctors, everything they are doing, at same time strikes in

the NHS, in A, slightly worrying. How would you describe it? I'm

impatient, Lucy, fully support the doctors' strike. There has been an

element of scaremongering from the government, to say patients will

suffer. Actually patients will suffer in the long-term if Jeremy

Hunt does not back down. The beeping of the horns would suggest quite a

lot of motorists right now on the road to Westminster Bridge

supporting the junior doctors. I am Phil Taylor, I am at the stage, or

my parents are at the stage of life where they have extended days in

hospital. I am not supportive of the strike. I support the medical

service. Not the strike. I'm a teacher, much like teachers, they

are members of society, who I fully support. Hard to talk over the sound

of the horns. Ie Still supporting the junior doctors? I'm fully in

support of the junior doctors. I'm a student nurse, I wholeheartedly

support the junior doctors. They are fighting for each and every one of

us in this country. Fighting for their colleagues, the only people

risking patient safety are the Conservative government. With a

chronic underfunding, and cuts to the NHS. More operations cancelled

by underfunding and then there has been today. Each and every one of us

as to get behind junior doctors, supporting them before we leave the

NHS forever. I'm a law student from North Yorkshire, I'm completely

against strikes, childish and pathetic. They should get back to

providing services, instead of cancelling 10,000 appointments,

13,000 operations. Absolute disgrace for the taxpayer in this country

relying on the appointments every day, that having cancelled. They

went get another appointment for six months. We had two striking junior

doctors. Do you want to go back to work right now? We are at work, we

are doing a juicy, for filling an important duty, protecting all of

the patients in the NHS in the future. I so understand why people

are frightened today. About the strike. My mum is in hospital on one

of the strike days, I trust my colleagues to look after her. What I

would say, I am most afraid of, as a patient, and a family member, my

parents had been hospital, they are also elderly, they rely on the NHS,

what is going to happen to the NHS if this toxic contract is imposed on

all doctors from this August? That is my biggest worry, and that is

what everybody needs to be frightened. The Health Secretary,

Jeremy Hunt, he seems the taking no notice of what you are doing. What

you are doing, according to the government, is not going to work?

Jeremy Hunt needs to take a step back, listen to the voices of the

public. There is no sign he is doing that. I think he will have to

listen. He's the Secretary of State, his position is to listen to the

public, to make sure we have a health service that is able to

support the public. He will have to listen to us. I do not believe

Jeremy Hunt truly once the destruction of the NHS. He needs to

work with us. Does this new contract destroy the NHS? This contract will

be the steps to the destruction the NHS. Let's hear a conversation,

gather in? I dating Jeremy Hunt is against the NHS whatsoever. The

public are on the junior doctors side, for now. When they realise the

dispute is all about money, nothing to do with patient safety. Patient

safety. I am not going to suffer a pay cut under the contract, why am I

on strike? The maximum working hours, the current contract 91

hours, now it is 72 hours. Talking about patient safety, your

counterparts... Can I talk about the 72 hours. As things stand, on a

yearly basis our trust how to make sure we work the maximum amount of

hours. The government in this contract will remove those safety

guidance is, that keep us safe, but also keep patients say. You are

saying there's going to be a 72 hour cap and stop how does anyone know

that? It is a very technical point. What about the junior doctor who

works many hours? It can be refined, you are saying you don't agree, and

want to revise every detail before going ahead. I would like to go back

to the seven-day thing. It has been consistently misrepresented by the

junior doctors. Saying they're providing a seven day emergency

service. In a five-year forward view, in the vision of the NHS, how

it can continue, not a political vision. That review said let us

provide seven days a week services, where they are clinically required.

That is what it says on the five day forward, get rid of doctors,

privatise it. It is true, read it. How can you provide a seven-day

service, chronically underfunded. Can I just say, people say we don't

have a 24-7 NHS, we have it. When it really matters. I personally have

had to go into hospital for life or death situations. I have called

nurses, called the emergency contact numbers I have, I have as quickly as

humanly possible we have a 24-7 NHS when it matters. That is how it

should be. They don't think we should be fed a fallacy that we

don't already have it. I was gay to say my experience of a seven-day

service not quite as good as that. My mother-in-law died of cancer two

years ago through a series of errors, mainly waiting far too long

to be diagnosed. When she did get the diagnosis, the surgery did not

go to plan as we have been told. The after-care was appalling. When she

fell ill on the weekend, the weekend shifts told me try not to bring him

in on a Saturday, week were the graveyard shift. They care from

registrars and doctors was not at the same level as during the week.

No proper handovers, the briefing is not done properly. In a day and age

when we need seven-day care, nobody is disputing you should be paid to

do that. I'm a cancer specialist, I'm a junior doctor, I have been for

ten years. I completely understand the concerns people have about

weekend care, and how we can go about improving the function of the

NHS. We need more doctors to do that. More doctors on shift, every

shift, to provide the care, not just from an elected point of view. The

government has not told us what it means by seven-day service. We're

not talking about the Simon Stephens five-year forward view. We are

talking about the government manifesto of seven-day services.

Almost all junior doctors I speak to say this is not about Saturday pay.

The government offering extra pay after 5pm on a Saturday. The BMA

wants everybody who works all day Saturday to be paid 50% above the

basic rate. It is disingenuous to say it is not partly about Saturday

pay? It is not about pay, my pay will not change under this contract.

I would not be going to these lengths about eight. I know that is

the case for many doctors. It is true, actually there are a

significant proportion of doctors that will suffer a pay cut. Not a

single person will be getting more pay from this contract was they will

if they were regular weekends? There will be an increasing number of

shifts on the weekend. No extra doctors to fill those shifts. That

is the issue? We are short of doctors, we cannot fill our shifts

as it is. They want to introduce more shifts without any new doctors.

That means more patients per doctor. That is not safe. You will be

stretched to Finlay? There are 6000 rated vacancies -- rota vacancies.

Your rotas will not change by August? Doctors going, they do extra

work because they feel they have two. That will increase. We cannot

do that, we're human, it will break doctors, they will leave, we will

lose more and more doctors from the NHS. It will become an impossible

situation. Would you consider resigning? I would if I cannot

provide safe care if the contract goes through. I will not be party

the process endangering patients. The contract will be sent out in

May, I understand. Some of them will be sent out in May. If yours arrives

in your inbox? The contracts are due to be imposed from all this. They

have to be sent up before that. They should not be sending a contract

before August. If that is happening, you have to question who is

authorising that process. What other option, if you are being childish,

having a picket line. Jeremy Hunt is being incredibly childish, he could

have avoided this. He negotiated with the BMA. The only issue left is

the Saturday issue. It is not the only one. That is indicating it is

about pay. I'm going to read messages from people watching.

Caroline, member of the public, I'm entirely behind the junior doctors'

strike. The governors have pushed the junior doctors to this point in

the hope the public will withdraw the support as it impacts on them.

E-mail from Rupert, the root cause of the crisis is due to the funding

in the NHS. Paul, I'm a specialist nursing A covering gaps left by

striking doctors today. Our pay has been frozen for five years. Clare

has been nursing for 42 years, junior doctors have my full support.

Thank you very much for coming on the programme. Thank you. Coming up

to you 10:30 a.m.. Time for the news. Junior doctors have walked out

in hospitals across England this morning. For the first time it is an

all-out strike, not providing emergency care. It is the fifth

strike in a long rang dispute when talks broke down in 2014. Jeremy

Hunt said those of the top of the union are refusing to come from

eyes. They striking said they had no other option.

two years ago. A crush during an FA Cup semi-final in Sheffield in 1989

resulted in the deaths of 96 Liverpool fans. Among the questions

the nine jurors must answer is whether or not they were unlawfully

killed. Scottish Power have been fined ?18 million by the energy

regulator Ofgem who said its call handling, complaints procedures,

were all found to be inadequate, resulting in a million complaints in

two-and-a-half years. The editor of Bangladesh's only gay

rights magazine has been hacked to death in the capital Dhaka. The

latest in a series of attacks on secular writers and activists.

Xulhaz Mannan was killed when men entered his apartment posing as

couriers. That is a summary of the latest news. BBC newsroom live will

follow this programme at 11. Let us catch up with the sport now with

Ore. Good morning. Leicester City surely

have a big hand on the Premier League trophy now, one win away from

the title after second-placed Tottenham lost ground on the leaders

with a 1-1 draw against West Brom. It means Spurs are seven points off

the top with three to play. If Leicester beat Manchester United at

Old Trafford they'll win the title then but they have to do it without

Jamie Vardy. The striker accepted a ban for the incident last week. He's

been fined ?10,000. Manchester City prepare for the biggest European

night in their history as they meet ten-time champions Real Madrid in

the first leg of their Champions League semi-final. Toure is out with

a thigh injury, Kompany though is fit to play. And the snooker is

under way with Mark Selby taking the first frame against Kyren Wilson,

the last remaining qualifier. Let's have a look at the Crucible now and

dip into Sheffield and it's Selby with control of the table and they

are in the second frame. A nice way to continue his control of that

second frame. That is all the sport for now. Back to you, Victoria, in

London. Thank you very much. In just under

half an hour, the Hillsborough victims' families will find out if

their members of their families were killed unlawfully. 96 died as a

result of a crush on the terraces on the FA Cup semi-final between

Liverpool and Nottingham Forest at Hillsborough. After hearing two

years of evidence, the jury on the fresh inquests will deliver its

conclusions. They've been asked to consider 14 questions, including

whether the victims were unlawfully killed, whether opportunities to

save lives on that day were lost, whether police errors or emissions

or fans' behaviour caused or contributed to the dangerous

situation at the match. The orange Nat verdicts were quashed in 1991.

We are about to hear the stories of two people whose lives were changed

by what happened that day. My name is Becky, I lost my mum at

Hillsborough on 15th April, 1989. I'm Gillian Edwards. I was there

that day, ended up seriously injured but survived. My mum's over there in

that corner, the right hand side. Right at the back, right in the

corner of the goal. The Football League Championship

trophy to his own Liverpool captain, Graeme Graeme Souness. I've always

followed Liverpool. As a kid I always wanted to come here and my

dad used to bring me when I was younger.

My mum was from Denmark and she always supported Liverpool because

in Denmark you could only see two teams on Danish telly, Leeds United

or Liverpool, and she supported Liverpool because of The Beatles.

Smefs a mad, mad Beatles fan. When she came to England, she would

always watch Liverpool on the tely. Liverpool champions deservedly so.

She got more and more into it. Then we decided to come to the matches in

85. It was something else wasn't it, coming up the steps and walking out?

Standing with all your mates. Yes. Seeing the same people week in week

out all standing round having jokes and things. A sing-along. Those are

the days I remember. I remember in March-April, 1989, the

build-up to the game at Hillsborough and I was a season ticket holder as

well, my mum and brother, they both qualified to get tickets but

unfortunately I didn't because I'd been to one of the FA Cup games

beforehand so that disqualified me. I was absolutely gutted and I'll

never ever forget my mum begging me on the Friday night to come on the

train because she was certain someone would have a spare.

But the only reason I didn't go is because it was my friend's birthday

that night and we were all going out so I decided that I would go out and

give it a miss, go clubbing with them instead. That's probably what

saved my life actually. Yeah. Are you all right? Yes. I turned on the

telly for Grand thes stand, quarter to three, getting ready for any news

coming from Hillsborough -- Grandstand. Desmond Lyneham said, we

are going to Hillsborough and, in those days, they would show a

picture of the stadium and have commentary. That is what I was

expecting. Instead they went to a live shot and I saw all these people

walking on the pitch. I couldn't understand what was happening. It

looked really surreal to me. It was shortly after that that they said

five people had died and it was about... The death toll from then

just rose and rose and rose. Well, I mean, as soon as I saw this, I was

obviously very worried about my mum, brother and friends, but especially

my mum. I just had this feeling about my mum all the time, you know.

I was so concerned about her and about half three, quarter to four, I

just had this feeling in my stomach that she'd gone. I was certain after

that that she was dead. It wasn't confirmed to me until 4 o'clock the

next morning that she had. I found out about 6 o'clock that night that

my brother was safe. It really got to me seeing all those fans on the

ground dying in trouble. There was nothing I could do, nothing I could

do at all. There I was sitting in the safety and comfort of home and

those guilty feelings for that will never leave me. Nothing to feel

guilty for. So er, what do you remember of the

morning? How did you get ready and how did you go to Hillsborough?

I remember just getting up and ironing my jeans and everything as

usual and we got to Sheffield about half eleven, something like that.

And then, just basically thought we were going to have a good day out.

Do you remember getting outside the stadium? I remember outside, I got

to a point where I was scared. Even though I can't actually remember

getting in, I remember being on the terraces and standing there in

Pen-3. I didn't feel scared at that time, you know. I just knew it was

packed but it was a semi-final, you know. Everything looked normal at

that stage from there from the footage that I've seen with the

beach ball and I can see my mum there cheering the team and that on

the footage. Everything just seemed normal. And then the actual crush -

I remember first of all being pushed forward but you had that, you know,

you're used to the movements of the crowd aren't you, and we did have

the push back and to the sides and stuff like that, but it wasn't the

norm even then, the first one. Once the second one happened, everybody

just knew then just how bad something was. It seemed to be

Then, after the silence came the Then, after the silence came the

screaming and the shouting and the, you know, get us out of here and

help get us out and I always remember just having... We were that

packed in, someone on my shoulder. Sorry. Sorry. I'm all right now.

Then a man's voice just, as you said, something constantly with you

isn't it, you know, "get the girls out, there's girls here". He was

panicking that much, now I'm older and it's years later and things like

that, I think he was panicking for himself maybe and he was maybe

ashamed to be a man shouting help, so he was saying "there's girls,

help us there's girls here", you know. I remember just looking at the

blue sky and... I remember because I just couldn't do anything, I

couldn't breathe. I remember just thinking, this is it, God, I'm...

God help me, they were my last words, got help me, this is it, I'm

going. But I also, from being so scared, and frightened, once I'd

give up and thought this is it, I just wasn't scared any more.

Then the next thing I remember after that, was waking up but I couldn't

see a thing. Everything was just black.

I remember trying to speak and I couldn't talk. Even though I could

hear them talking to me. What were the permanent injuries you were left

with? High poxic brain injury. It's left me with things like, I used to

be really sporty. I can't catch a ball now. I've got no coordination.

I can't judge the distance of things. The list can go on and on.

But I'm here, aren't I, and I've gone on to have the three kids and

that, so... The Gillian of that day died, but, you know, I'm another one

here in its place isn't it? That's what I always say. Massive, massive

part of me died that day and it's never coming back, but, like you

say, it changes you. It changes you unrecognisably I think. In many

ways. There is no going back after something like that to how you were.

How can they be. To think about what you were going through at home and

to think of your brother, 13-year-old kid. My mum's friend

woke me up and said, a police car's outside and you just know don't you.

And so I went down and invited him in. He asked me if I was my mum's

daughter and I said yes. And he said to me that my mum had been fatally

injured at the disaster. I was only 17 and I said to him, the word

fatally never really registered, I just heard injured and I said to him

"is she still alive"? He said "no". My world was just in total pieces

after that. Nothing has ever rocked me like that has.

And then my brother came back. From Sheffield. With some social workers

because our mum was our only parent. He came back with two social

workers. As soon as he got out of the car, I just, just looking at

him, I just knew he was a different person. I just knew it.

What happened after that? Your mum being a single parent. It was quite

a full on three days. Disaster on the Saturday, I was informed of my

mum's death, and Marion's death on Sunday. On Monday I tried to go to

school for some normality, to be in touch with my mates. I knew they

would be worried. When I came back from school, the social worker was

sitting there, saying you are awarded the court. In the care of

social services. -- a ward. It was just absolutely heartbreaking. It is

heartbreaking to listen to. Living through it

Mustadeem hard. How long were you in hospital? Quite a while. Getting

really depressed, withdrawing in the unit. -- must have been hard.

Basically picking a knife and fork up again. I went back to a baby

state. From being this 18-year-old, starting life, great job, loved my

job. Love the people I worked with. It was a completely different life.

To have to go to your mother giving you a bath again, it sounds selfish,

saying this to you... I think this will be our lives

forever, constantly affected by this. What do you see for the

future? To keep on being involved with the Hillsborough Justice

Campaign. If it had not been for them but they have been my lifeline.

It helps to break down the isolation you feel.

Thank you to Julie, who has tweeted to say, those interviews on

Hillsborough are so moving. Let's talk to Ben Brown, at the inquest in

Warrington. What are we expecting in about ten minutes or so? In the last

two or three hours, relatives of the 96 have been queueing up and going

into the Warrington coroner 's court behind me. They are waiting to hear

the jury's inclusions. They have been listening for two years, the

longest legal proceeding in British history. They have listened to hours

of documents, hundreds of witnesses. It comes down to the answers the

questions they will get from the coroner. We will hear those answers

at 11 o'clock. It was a whole range of issues surrounding the disaster,

the match planning by the police, the stadium, the safety, the

behaviour of the fans, the response of the emergency services. Pivotal

is question six, were the 96 fans who died that day 27 years ago

unlawfully killed? To reach that decision, the jury will have to

answer a whole set of questions, did the match commander of the day,

David Dukinfield have a duty of care to the fans? Was Ian breach of their

duty of care? If he was, did that cause the death of the fans, through

gross negligence? That is the key question of the 14 questions, number

six. Remind us why the original inquest was quashed all those years

ago? The original inquest verdict, back in 1991, accidental death. We

have that quashed by the High Court, after the Hillsborough Independent

Panel report in 2012. Raising very serious misgivings about the

response of the police, the whole handling from the police and

emergency services, surrounding the disaster. After that inquest, that

is how we have got to that stage, for the families of the 96 victims

it has been a long wait for answers, 27 years really. The next ten

minutes, they hope they will start to get some of those answers.

Of course, as you would expect, full coverage of the conclusions of the

inquest on BBC News at 11 o'clock. Here at Saint Thomas 's Hospital, we

have spent the morning alongside striking junior doctors, patients,

voters, politicians. You can see the strike is pretty well supported at

this stage. Junior doctors will do the same tomorrow, withdrawing

emergency care for the second day, unprecedented in the history of the

NHS. Let's all to Sarah, one of those striking today. What

adjectives would you use to describe how you feel about what you were

doing today? And emotional, that we have been brought to this point.

Really disappointed the gamut is not listening to us, frustrated they are

not listening. Hopeful that the public can see this because we are

genuinely concerned about patient safety. You say hopeful, do you fear

that people might start to change their mind when it comes to

supporting you? I hope not. We are genuinely here. As doctors, you

become a doctor to help patients, help people. The only thing that

would make a small gap is concerned about patient safety. What next, if

this does not work? We will have a lot of serious discussions amongst

ourselves, we will be taking this forward. At this point, indefinite

walk-out? Would you consider resigning? It would not be ethical

for us to continue, to work on a contract, where we are genuinely

concerned. It was a man supporting you, in case there is any doubt. The

public support has been amazing. Really incredible. Surveys showing

people are still with us. For that, really grateful. This is for them,

at the end of the day. What is your name? Geno. Why a supporting the

doctors? Because they need them, all the time. The feel they may be going

somewhere? Yes, we need them. Let's help them and support them. How have

they supported you? I have needed them all my life. That is the only

way I will survive. If this kind of strike action, withdrawal and

emergency cover continues, will you continue to support them? Yes, all

the way. What is your message to the Health Secretary? Pay them more. I'm

not sure there is that much money. Well... It is clear, thank you.

Sarah, sorry, did not hear what you said, would you consider resigning?

Indefinite walk-out? The indefinite walk-out, certainly it has to be

considered. It is not ethical to work on a contract that they are

enforcing. As long as we continue to have the support of our consultants,

it would be safer patients to Bulger. Hello. Sarah, thank you. Are

you due to be working? I was. Why have you withdrawn emergency cover?

I'm here to show support with all my junior doctor colleagues. This show

our displeasure with the contract currently being imposed upon us. It

is a huge question, briefly, what is wrong with the contract? As people

have been saying so far this morning, it is not safe, not fair,

and we are concerned about the future of the NHS, if this contract

goes ahead. Why is it not fair? It is not fair on patients, not fair on

doctors. Recently in the news, articles about how he disadvantages

women and doctors who want to try and work part-time. Thank you very

much. Do stay with BBC news for full coverage of the conclusions of the

inquest on Hillsborough. Coming up in the next few minutes.