03/05/2016 Victoria Derbyshire

Yes, it really has happened, can you believe it,

Leicester City football club have

defied the 5000-1 odds against them at the start

of the season to win the Premier League.

But where did the Leicester players watch the game that

made them the Champions of English football?

Round at star striker Jamie Vardy's house obviously.

Also on the programme, going to school for the first

time dressed as a girl, frightened of growing a beard,

we catch up with two of Britain's youngest transgender children.

This used to be me, me as a boy, and now I am a girl. Happy happy happy.

New figures obtained by this programme show that the number

of children aged ten or under referred to clinics has almost

doubled in a year and includes three three-year-olds.

It is just that I feel more like a girl. I don't really feel like a

boy. we'll bring you more

of Jessica and Lily's story. And, are SATS for 6 and 7

year olds too hard? Many parents think so and are

withdrawing their kids We'll go through some

of the tests with them. Welcome to the programme,

we're live until 11 this morning. Throughout the programme we'll bring

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a story you think we should be it's being hailed as one

of the greatest achievements Leicester City have won

the Premier League. Last season they narrowly avoided

relegation, and at the start of this season, the odds on the Foxes

winning the league were 5,000 to 1. The team has been assembled for less

than 30 million pounds, in stark contrast to some of English

football's big spenders. Our sports correspondent Andy Swiss

was with the fans last night in Leicester, when the

title was confirmed. It was a night the so-called

impossible dream Outside their stadium,

Leicester fans partied long into the night to celebrate one

of football's most remarkable feats. For their players, too, who had

gathered at Jamie Vardy's house, it was the moment they

had been waiting for. This previously unheralded team

that turns the sporting Earlier, they had all

watched nervously as Tottenham tried to keep their title

hopes alive, but Chelsea's late Only a year ago they were

bottom of the league. Many thought they

would be relegated. We are a positive city, we believe,

and this is what happened! Brilliant.

Marvellous. I got a bit emotional

at the end of the game... It was hard to breathe in the last

few minutes to be honest. I have followed them

since I was a little kid. A season ticket-holder

since seven-years-old. This is a night no

one will ever forget. STUDIO: Our reporter

Fiona Lamdin is at Leicester's ground, the King Power

Stadium, this morning. What time were the fans out until?

They haven't been home! This is testament, a wheelie bin full of

champagne, this time yesterday the champagne was on ice, but now it has

been drunk. Underneath my feet it is sticky sticky sticky! Thousands and

thousands of fans there last night, I needed to go to bed, I could not,

I could not leave it, so exciting, like being surrounded by thousands

of people who had just got engaged, imagine that excitement, coming over

to Abdul, you have a plate of samosas here, you are going to be

extremely busy, tell us about the slight joke that you made. We

decided to give away 3000 curries to season ticket holders, depending

upon them winning the Premier League, and it is a dream come true

for us and for the city, they have done it, we will keep do our work,

we will give away 1000 free curries to the first 1000 season-ticket

holders. You are seriously busy, no sleep last night and none of the

next couple of days. Not bothered about it, it is a bus, everything is

brilliant about this city, thank you, Leicester Paul is another man

who's going to be very busy, you have had a busy morning, tell us

sure important role, and if we can see the Foxes on your tie, very

symbolic for the club. Leicester City has a unique tradition of

bringing the players onto the pitch with a poster which depicts the fox

hunting tradition of the Leicestershire, I am a huntsman,

with a hunting horn, and we play them out to the post horn gallop. We

would love to listen and imagine what it would be like on Saturday,

go ahead. STUDIO: There will be more of that

at the home game, this weekend, much more to come throughout the

programme, we will be talking with loads of fans.

Thousands of parents in England could take their children out

of primary schools today, protesting against SATS tests

They say the tests are too difficult, and are causing stress.

Ministers say they'll help drive up standards.

Here's our Education Correspondent Robert Pigott.

VOICEOVER: It is far from their how many pupils will miss school today

but 300 groups of parents have organised boycotts.

They claim thousands of pupils will take part,

many of them swapping the classroom for educational trips

The standard assessment tests, or SATs, demand a deeper knowledge

of grammar and the ability to make more complex calculations in maths.

is withdrawing her six-year-old daughter from school today.

She says the tests are distorting children's broader education

and are focusing teaching on the narrow requirements of the exams.

When they are feeling so stressed that they feel they cannot go to

school, when they are pretending to be ill

because they are not happy at school any more,

they are going to miss an awful lot more,

and for their mental health and educational health

it is great for them to see teachers and parents are standing up together

to say your education matters so much to us we will let this happen.

Some parents say the exams are making children anxious and

stressed, but the schools minister, Nick Gibb,

appealed to them not to heed the call for a pupil strike.

It will damage your child's education and those

The Government says the new tests are essential to

raising standards in an increasingly competitive world.

STUDIO: Just after 9:30am, Victoria will be speaking with some parents

who have withdrawn their children from school today in protest over

SATs. The number of children aged ten

or under who have sought help from the NHS because they're unhappy

with their biological sex, 167 young children have been

referred to the NHS, including In total, more than 1,300 under-18s

have been seen by NHS services. We'll have more on this

story in just a moment. Johnson and Johnson has

been ordered to pay almost ?40 million to

a woman who said that using its talcum powder caused her

to develop ovarian cancer. It's the second trial loss

for the pharmaceutical company, which is facing around 1,200

lawsuits accusing it of not warning consumers about risks associated

with talc-based products. The firm insists its products

are safe and says it will appeal. that the introduction

of Universal Credit, the Government's flagship reform

of the benefits system, could leave two and a half million

families worse off. The independent think tank,

the Resolution Foundation, claims the changes are jeopardising

the main objective of ensuring that people are always better

off in work. The government has announced

a further expansion of the payment, which it says is

"transforming" welfare. The RAF has confirmed that loud

bangs heard in parts of Yorkshire last night were sonic booms from

Typhoon jets, scrambled to identify and unresponsive civilian aircraft

and helping it to land safely, people reported houses shaking just

before 10pm. Last night celebrities gathered at the annual invitation

only met ball at New York. -- in New York. John Cena

-- Beyonce wore a latex gown and there were lots of metallic outfits

to illustrate the theme, which this year was Fashion in an Age of

Technology. The tickets cost more than ?20,000 per person and only

British-born American Vogue editor Anna Wintour decides who gets in.

Now messages from Leicester City fans, " the story of the century", "

well done Leicester City", " good teamwork and massive self belief", "

my best friend put ?5 on Leicester City to win the league at the start

of the season, he Goodenow win ?25,000". Coming up in the

programme, we will bring you an interview with a woman called Helen

steel, -- Helen Steele who for several years was duped by a man she

loved - and lived with - before she discovered he was in fact an

undercover cop...employed by the state to spy on her and other

environmental activists. Her full story to come before 11. More

celebratory Leicester stuff from Ollie Foster. The reaction has been

incredible, this is just a flavour of some of the back pages. Jamie

Vardy, the Leicester City striker, his goals have really propelled them

to the title, he opened up his house to his team-mates, most of the squad

were there and some of the cameras, you can see the headline.

Most of the squad were there, after the match against Everton on

Saturday at home they will be lifting the trophy, they have

Chelsea to think that, after they got a late equaliser against

Tottenham Hotspur last night, Tottenham Hotspur had to win all of

their remaining matches to have any chance of catching Leicester City, I

got off to a flyer, goals from Harry Kane and Son putting them 2-0 up,

ugly game, 12 yellow cards, 941 Hotspur, a lot went unseen and Mousa

Dembele Ailey will be facing punishment for poking Diego Costa in

the eye. Then, the Chelsea comeback, Gary Cahill, and then a beauty from

Eden Hazard, one of the players he said publicly that they wanted

Leicester City to win the title, they got very heated at full-time.

The FA disciplinary department will have a lot of video footage to

watch. 2-2, the final score. The title was Leicester City's. I have

got to thank loudly any, the players and Leicester football club. Well

done for them. -- I have got to thank Claudio Congratulations to

them. We feel disappointed because I think that we were fighting for the

title. Nearly to the end. You have already spoken with Claudio Ranieri.

He called me, after the final whistle! A called me, and he thanked

Chelsea, thanked me, thanked us, for what we deliver tonight. I give him

my congratulations. We have not heard from Claudio Ranieri in the

flesh but we have some quotes, " I am a pragmatic man, I just wanted to

win match after match and help my players to improve week after week,

never did I think too much about where it would take us. The former

Leicester City captain Robbie Savage has given his assessment on match of

the daylights night. Let's put this into some kind of realisation...

Manchester United have spent more in the last two seasons on players than

Leicester City have in their entire history, 132 years... This is a team

of players that have been plucked from other clubs, free transfers...

The most incredible achievement. I believe, in British sport entirely.

Not just the football team that have made Leicester City brow, Mark Selby

has become the World Snooker champion for the second time, the

Jester from Leicester, as he called himself, has beaten Ding Junhui.

He won the title just 13 minutes after his team became Premier League

champions! I knew the game is kicking off, but I try to not think

about it too much, I did not want it to distract what I had to do, I do

not know which is more of a shock, me winning its price or Leicester

City becoming champions! Must be a good omen, in another two years,

hopefully they will win the Premier League again and I can come back and

win this again! LAUGHTER ?330,000 for winning that. Leicester

City will make about... 150 million!... From winning the title

this season, that is just the starters.

Much more on Leicester to come, but first this morning: this

programme has learned that the number of children aged ten

or under who are being seen by the NHS because they're unhappy

with their biological sex has almost doubled in the last

That figure includes three children aged three.

You may remember last year we met two of the youngest

transgender children in Britain who we called Jessica who was eight

and Lily who was six, born boys, they had

both been identifying as girls for several years.

We've been following them since that first interview with them and over

the course of the programme, we'll bring you their updates.

We'll start with Lily's story. It's not her real name.

Now I'm living sort of as a girl. I feel much better.

I was planning to be maybe a girl and that's what I want to be.

Can you remember when you were being treated as a boy, why you wanted to

wear girl clothes? I wanted to just see how it looked and see if anyone

laughed or not. And I would be happier then. Do you think as you

grow up a bit you might change your mind? To be a boy again? No. How do

you know? Because I sort of am a girl. I like girl stuff. I feel much

better. Well, this is my summer dress. Blue.

Its LAUGHTER

It has this ribbon which some people tie at the front, but I tie at the

back. When I went to school that day, everyone was saying, "Hi Lily.

You look nice in a skirt." And then I was like, "Oh, thanks." It felt a

bit natural, but mostly embarrassing because the tights were making me

itch a lot. It stopped becoming embarrassing after a while. It feels

a bit different, but mostly the same because I just get on with it like I

did when I was a boy. I've got 20. She had quite a few times sort in

the run-up said, "I want to be a girl. I want to live as girl." I

guess we always thought, I suppose we were trying to eek it out as long

as we could really. The next day my husband went to pick Lily and her

brother up from school and Lily's teacher called my husband over and

said, "Just to let you know Lily has told us all that she wants to start

living as a girl." She just kind of ran ahead with it really. We were a

little bit oh, OK, this is actually really happening. Why are you

giggling? Well, this used to be me. Me as a boy. I stayed a long time

until I'm a girl. And then I'm happy, happy, happy. We then had a

skirt day as we called it skirt day, where the headteacher did an

assembly and talked about people being different and accepting

people's differences and then the younger children went out. She

showed a diagram of what it means to be in a boy's body, but have a

girl's brain and that Lily has chosen to now be Lily in school and

will be wearing skirts. Yeah, Lily came into school after the assembly

and everyone clapped. Didn't they, Lily? Which was nice. They all sort

of clapped you and everyone was supportive, weren't they? I was

like, well I was a bit scared. And I was like, "Oh they are all clapping

me." ." I was like thanks. It is kind a bit confusing because

it's like when she was young, when she was a boy, one day we were in a

shop and she said, "Mummy, please can I buy this pink pretty dress?" I

was like, "Hang on. You're a boy." I got really confused, but now a days,

I'm fine with it really because it is not confusing or anything at all

anymore because I'm used to it for, she is normal. So when Lily was a

boy, when she was much younger, did you used to play much together? Was

she a typical boy? You talked about the pink dress so maybe not.

Like I normally ask her to play army men with me and things, but she

says, "I don't really want to be a pirate or an army man. She said can

I be a fairy princess that can fire lazars out of a wand or something?"

She is kind of a bit like, she has still got a bit of boyness in her,

but not in a way. Not like you? Yeah, not like me. When I'm in the

middle of a video game or something, she just switches music on upstairs

and starts dancing and doing ballet and things. How are people at

school? Well, at school, everybody is fine with it now and they know.

They used to ask me before we started assembly, why does your

brother like girl stuff and things? I would just say because that's how

she is and things. It is just, everybody is fine with it now. Do

you miss having a brother? In some ways, yes and in some ways, no

because when I said play armies and things and I would dress up as an

army man and she would dress up as a fairy, it is still OK really because

I don't really mind what she dresses up as and so yeah, that's fine.

How proud are you of your sister? I'm very proud from what she has

gone through and she is doing really well at the moment and nobody is

bullying her or anything soits fine. -- so it's fine. How much do you

love her? Sometimes she can be rather annoying! Hey, that's

brothers and sisters for you, isn't it? Exactly. I bet she says the same

about you sometimes? Yeah, she would do! But then really we all like each

other overall. So... Phew! Yeah, Phew!

One, two, three, oh, straight up to number 30. Can I ask you about skirt

day? Yeah. They had an assembly where they talked about how

everybody is different and you weren't in the assembly though, you

and your brother? No. And how has it been at school since that day?

Really good. Really good. It felt like I was born a girl but I wasn't

actually. And after skirt day, how many more girls wanted to play with

you? All of them in the class. Did they?

What was that like? Really like, I couldn't decide who

to play with. I would just play with all of them in the end. Ah, that's

lovely. And that meant from that day onwards you could use the girl's

toilets? Yeah, it wasn't, I don't think it was on skirt day that I

used the girl's toilets because I didn't need it that day!

LAUGHTER I mean if everybody treats you like

a girl now, calls you your girl's name, people at school, friends,

family. Can you even remember being a boy? Not really. Does it seem like

a long time ago? It seems like never. Does it really? Yeah. And

what do you think about when you grow up? Do you know what you want

to be when you grow up? I was planning to be a lady, a girl.

That's what I want to be. As you'd expect, Jessica and Lily,

their parents, and their schools all gave their permission

for our interviews. You can watch the film again

by going to our programme page We've posted

links to it on social media. Later in the programme we'll talk

to nine-year-old Jessica about what's happened in her life

over the last year Leicester are the Champions

of English football. Leicester are the English

Premier League champions. It finally happened last

night when Tottenham This time last year Leicester City

were close to relegation. I haven't even used

the word "fairytale" yet. We've been following the team

through two Leicester fans Gary L Johnson and Sandra Fixter

who've been filming video So here we are, it is Sunday

morning. We've got the cake. I've got all the stuff. I've got the

scarf on, I wore it last time and we are making our way to the stadium

ready to make our way up to the Theatre of Dreams, well it could be

the Theatre of Dreams for Leicester City fans today where we could,

could, very hard task to say, win the Barclays Premier League today.

So today is a day where history could be made.

We've got the car ready. We've got the scarfs ready. We've got

everything crossed and whatever, but we're pretty certain the boys will

come up with it. We are just so nervous. This

unbelievable thing that's happening to our team.

# We shall not be, we shall not be moved.

# We are the top of the Premier League.

# We shall not be moved. # We have just seen a stand selling

ininflatability. Don't tempt fate. Don't do T after the game do it. We

just need to find a car park. Manchester United! I'm just

wondering in a few hours what might be?

# We are all going on the European Tour.

COMMENTATOR: There is an early goal. COMMENTATOR: Manchester United are

in front. In the eighth minute. The end of the match. 1-1. We're

still going to Europe. We are two points off winning. But what a

match! We found Gary Lineker. We found Gary

Lineker, by name sake! We all want to be Chelsea supporters tomorrow.

They can do us a favour. They don't want their neighbours to win. As I

say, every week, come on Tottenham, we're still waiting for you!

Right, well, it's amonged night, Monday Bank Holiday and -- Monday

night and Monday Bank Holiday and can we be champions. Big Anne has

come over and we're going to watch the Tottenham v Chelsea match and

I'm just as nervous as when it is a Leicester City match. Every

Leicester fan is watching it a bar or going to be watching it at the

pub. Now, we're at the theatre tonight, well be a nailbiting time.

It is Laura's birthday and we are going to have to keep looking all

the way through the evening. COMMENTATOR: Will come Hotspur be

able to prolong the title race? They are 2-0 up. -- will Tottenham

Hotspur. 2-2! Just coming out of the theatre

and we have just been told by the person on stage that we have just

won the Premier League, and the city is absolutely buzzing.

CHEERING CHEERING

STUDIO: I am so happy for them, and we

will be speaking with other Leicester City fans later, if you

are a Leicester City supporter, get in touch. Try to put into words what

this means for you. Hashtag victorialive or e-mail me

[email protected]. all of Sandra and Gary's video

diaries on our programme Still to come: are the new SATS

tests for primary school children Thousands of parents think so,

we'll hear from some keeping their children off school

today in protest. And - we'll bring you an interview

with a woman who was duped by her partner for two years before she

discovered he was in fact an undercover cop...employed by the

state to spy on her and other environmental activists.

Leicester City fans are celebrating their club winning

the English Premier League for the first time

The team were many pundits' tips for relegation

but they defied odds of 5,000-1 to win the league.

Celebrations took place across the city last night and we'll

be speaking to a number of fans shortly.

Thousands of parents across England are keeping their children home

from school today in a protest about national tests for six

They claim the SATs are causing children stress

and anxiety, but the government argues that they hold

The commodities trading firm, Liberty House, has confirmed it will

make a formal bid to buy Tata Steel's UK assets -- including the

Port Talbot plant in Wales. A spokeswoman said the company would

submit a letter of intent to Tata later today.

or under who have sought help from the NHS because they're unhappy

with their biological sex, has almost doubled in the last year.

167 young children have been referred to the NHS,

including three children aged just 3.

In total, more than 1,300 under-18s have been seen by NHS services.

There's a warning today that the introduction

the Government's flagship reform of the benefits system,

could leave two and a half million families worse off.

The independent think tank, the Resolution Foundation,

claims the changes are jeopardising the main objective of ensuring that

people are always better off in work.

The government has announced a further expansion of the payment,

which it says is 'transforming' welfare.

The RAF has confirmed that loud bangs heard in parts

of Yorkshire last night were sonic booms from Typhoon jets.

They had been scrambled from RAF Coningsby in Lincolnshire

to identify "an unresponsive civilian aircraft" and helped it

People reported their houses shaking just before ten o'clock.

Celebrities embraced technology last night

as they gathered for the annual Met Ball in New York.

and there were lots of metallic outfits to illustrate the theme,

which this year was Fashion in an Age of Technology.

The tickets cost more than twenty thousand pounds per person,

and only British-born American Vogue editor Anna Wintour

That's a summary of the latest BBC News, more at 10.00.

Only one place to start, Claudio Ranieri has praised his players this

morning, saying their focus and determination and spirit has made

this title winning season possible. This is one of the images from last

night, that was the players party, at the house of Jamie Vardy, Claudio

Ranieri went on to say that every game they fight for each other and I

love to see this in my players, they deserve to be champions. They will

have a fuse or heads. The title was Leicester's when nearest rivals

Spurs dropped points at Cheslewa last night. Eden Hazard with the

late equalsier in the 2-2 draw. -- equaliser. Burnley will be back in

the Premier League next season. They have secured promotion from the

Championship with a 1-nil win against QPR. Brighton and

Middlesbrough face each other on the final day for the other automatic

promotion spot. -- 1-0. Dundee United have been relegated from the

Scottish Premiership, their fate was sealed last night by a 2-1 defeat

against neighbours Dundee. And Leicester's Mark Selby has become

the World Snooker champion for a second time, he beat China's Ding

Junhui by 18 frames to 14 at the Crucible and he won the title just

13 minutes after his team became Premier League champions. I will be

back with another update just after 10am. 11am? 10am! I lose track(!)

Are you a parent who's withdrawn your child from school

today in protest over SATS, tests for six and seven year olds?

Thousands are expected to do so, arguing they're too hard

and are creating stress and anxiety amongst pupils.

So how difficult are these new, harder tests?

Here are some examples of the kind of questions children in Year 2,

6 and 7 year olds, will be asked:

A typical maths question could be,

"Sita cuts a pizza into 4 equal slices,

she eats one slice, what fraction of the pizza does she eat?"

Or something like what's 70 minus 18, or 12 divided by 2?

When it comes to grammar the questions include,

"where should a comma go in the following sentence?

Asha found some red blue and purple beads in the box?"

Or, "what's short for I will, you have, it is, did not"

and there are multiple choice answers.

So what do you think? Too hard for a 6 or 7 year old?

we will speak with some parents who have kept their children out of

school, and a headteacher, who is children are on strike.

She has taken her seven-year-old Trinity and her tenure old Lucas out

in protest at the saps. -- SATs. Five-year-old Noah will be taking

his SATs next year. Debbie, let me begin with you, why

do you have your children on strike? I just think that the tests they are

sitting at the moment are just really not age-appropriate, those

examples you gave just now, those questions are far easier than some

of those that we see. Trinity stopped eating for a few days

because she was so stressed because of the stress of what she has been

learning at school. The children are becoming bored at school because

they are just doing maths and contravention tests the whole time,

not having any fun. Teachers are having creativity taken away from

them, unable to teach the way they want to teach. It is just not a good

way for children to learn and they are not happy at school. The tests

are more difficult, they last for five days, which is longer, but they

are tests which test how the teachers are teaching your children,

my understanding is, it is not about how your child necessarily does in

these tests. Well, it does, because the year six tests, if they don't

pass the expected standards, if they fail the expected standard, they

then have two resit them in year seven, they are going to be starting

secondary education feeling of failure, how on earth can you tell a

ten-year-old or 11-year-old that they have failed, that is a boring,

it is ridiculous. What do you think? Why do you have your son out of

school? I agree wholeheartedly, the examples you have given are much

easier than some of those which we have seen. Give me some harder

example. Off the top of my head I cannot think of one but my son was

coming home... It is not just the tests that are the concern, the

concern of the parents is the huge amount of time that is being devoted

to preparing children for these tests, it is not organic learning,

this is teaching to a test, and teachers are not in a position to be

able to do anything other than that, they are under so much pressure to

meet certain criteria, they then are passing that pressure down to their

children, and we as parents are putting pressure on the children as

well. You could easily not put pressure on your children. Ashamed

to say that I have found myself putting pressure on my child,

because he is coming home anxious about not being able to do certain

things and you want to help them, so that they are achieving. There is no

evidence whatsoever to suggest that harder tests, testing younger, makes

brighter children. There is no evidence of that. We can speak with

the schools Minister, he says that the government, he says, sorry, he

says SATs will stand up -- drive up standards and he has appealed to

parents not to withdraw children. It is the wrong way to discuss

political issues and we should not be bringing politics into a child

education, even missing one day of school can be damaging, not just to

a child that does not attend but to the other children, they have to go

through a catch up lesson to make up for the children who did not turn

up. I would say to parents considering this action, do not do

so, it will damage child education and the education of other children

in that class. We can speak with a headteacher, Claire Jones, from a

primary school in Norwich, will a day out of school damage education?

I always want the children to be in school, school is the best place for

their learning, I have some sympathy with parents. Wife?

-- why is that? We have always had Key stage one SATs, but they are

supposed to support teacher assessment, teachers are good at

assessing children, it does not have to be through testing, in the past

we have used those tests to support teacher assessment and without

putting too much pressure on children. This year, the changes to

the test and the way in which they have been implemented through the

year has meant that a lot of pressure has been put on teachers to

get in a lot of content suddenly, which has meant a narrowing of the

curriculum, I can see why they would like to keep up their children, it

is a long time to the next general election where they could make their

point politically, but on the other hand, I would rather parents send

their children to school and work with schools to make sure there is

less stress. Talking about a Nehring of the curriculum, initial period of

time they have had to bring in content, is that not a one off for

the first year and next year things will settle down? They could have

done that next September, they could have told teachers that this is what

is going to happen and the teachers would be able to plan it through the

year, so there was a drip drip approach, rather than suddenly

making changes throughout the year, and so the children can do it. On

top of that, to make it so that one of the tests they dropped completely

because they mistakenly publish it on the website!... That makes a

mockery of the entire thing. Are you... It sounded as though you were

suggesting the parents that they do not vote Conservative at the next

election? LAUGHTER I think they have got to look

carefully at the political parties and what they are offering, we do

not know what the political landscape will be in four years'

time. I would say that there needs to be a good look at assessment, and

they will have withdrawn the baseline assessment this year again

because it has not been implemented well, a baseline assessment, not

test, not test, and assessment, when they are an entry to reception, and

then, assessment or testing at the end, when they leave at ten or 11,

looks at proper progress over that time. Except, sorry during the rug,

if you only assess in reception and only assess in the last year a

primary, if there is a problem, it is too late to address it. We are

assessing all of the time, I'm talking about national testing. --

except, sorry to interrupts. Why is one fifth of children leaving

primary school illiterate or innumerate. No child should leave

the end of primary school like that, why is it happening? Well, children

come in at different levels, children come in and move schools,

children come in from different countries, children come in with

special needs. Nothing ever to do with the teaching. Of course it is,

it is today with teaching, with the leadership, with the education that

we are providing. And I think that suggesting any headteacher or

teaches not trying to make sure every child leaves literate and

numerate by the end of year six, that is laughable. We work very hard

to make sure those children do. By assessing as they go along, we can

put in intervention that we need to to make sure that every child makes

progress and reaches what they should do. We have a mixed society,

not everybody, not everybody is going to achieve the same level at

exactly the same time. Jemma you have got five-year-old

Noah here. He is not due to take SATs until next year. Why are you

taking him out now? We have to take action now. He is a summer baby.

Those questions you were using earlier are the easy end of the

scale. I have a good friend of mine whose child is six and he is in Year

2 and he is about to sit his exams and he is expected to know things

like what a collective noun is. How is that appropriate for a

six-year-old? Why are they not left to be able to write? I don't think

there is a question that says what is a collective noun, is there? It

is a collective noun phrase. They have to recognise what a collective

noun phrase is. I have no idea what that is myself. I'm 42. I have a

fairly decent career. I don't think it uses the phrase collective noun

in the test, does it? I have not read that paper, no, but I have been

told when my friend is sitting those tests, those are the things they are

asked to practise. Wlaes wrong with that? It is age inappropriate. It is

like sitting an eight-year-old down and trying to teach them to drive a

sports car or sitting a six-month-old down and trying to get

him or her to work. Their brains aren't wired in the right way yet

and they are not raising standards by making the tests harder. It is

just inflicting all sorts of misery on Year 2s and Year 6s. Robert, you

are a professor. You are an education specialist. Does a harder

test at six make a child brighter? No, of course not. There is a whole

lot of stuff mixed up there, isn't there. Children are meeting things

that are more challenging earlier on and it is the case that for a lot of

schools that's been a big step up and a sharp learning curve if you

like that they have had to adjust to that really quickly. Maybe that's

not the right thing. The argument is that children should be challenged

and it should be hard. I guess people are going to differ on that.

One of the parents mentioned the summer birthday, you know, children

are different. Should we have one test for everyone? I think there is

a whole lot of issues here. This e-mail from Alexandra, these parents

must be joking, how will their children cope with adult life if

they are being mollycoddled from a young age. What do you say to that

Debbie? It is not about mollycoddling. I'm the first to try

and push my children and stretch them and make sure they are reaching

their full potential, but I draw the line when my six-year-old is so

anxious about school. We have been true it with our teenager. She has

taken her AS-levels, she had repeat GCSE examinations under the modular

system from an academy school. And we've had issues from that, feelings

of inadequacy, that nothing she does is good enough. Getting grade B at

age 14 and being told it wasn't good enough and had to re-take them. It

is not Who told her good. That? The school told her to re-take it. They

wanted better results for her. That's an academy that's outside of

local authority control, that can run its own clum? Yeah. Precisely

what Nicky Morgan wants all schools to become. Academies. You chose to

send your daughter to that academy? Pardon? Presumably you chose to send

your daughter to that school? Where we used to live in London, there

wasn't a lot of choice, academy or no school. Fair enough. There wasn't

a lot of choice there. This tweet from Stewart, "These parents are not

helping. They are adding to any stress." Are you all right, Kye, do

you need to go to the loo? It is really hot. Can you carry on talking

amongst yourselves and I will be back in one second.

We have been talking about this, the thing that's made us really furious

is that it is obvious to us that the tests have been made too difficult

and I think you will probably agree over there on purpose so that the

children all, but the brightest children are going to fail and then

they can force through the academisation. Is that what you

think is going on? Yeah. Jemma, carry on. They are being set-up to

fail and all of a sudden, Government will swoop in, we'll make you

academies. They will lose their autonomy, it will be privatised and

sold off to their fat cat mates. If you think that's what's going on,

then academies don't have to... Exactly. So what's the point? They

have to stick to the national curriculum or do the SATs? So what's

the point? What is the point. They still have to do the SATs. Is that

right Robert, sorry? Yes, they still have to do the SATs. They still have

to do the SATs. It is a strange mixture in theory they don't have to

volume the National Curriculum, but they have to follow the same tests

so in practise that really isn't a freedom if you're going to be tested

on the same stuff, you've got to teach the same stuff, surely? 2012

they opted out because they recognised that it was narrowing the

curriculum to a point where teachers were just teaching to the test. On

the point about narrowing, as a headteacher Clare Jones, I mean you

know, there is a narrowing, all the parents say there is a narrowing as

teachers teach to the test, when the test is over, there is outside many

weeks until the end of the term when you can do sport, drama and art and

go on school trips, does it not balance out over the course of a

school year? It depends on every school, doesn't it and how they

organise their curriculum and what that looks like. I think there is a

more fundamental issue about that teaching the things that they want

to know in the test, but teaching it using really good literature. Why

are we going down a met ta linguistic route where we are

looking at roots of words and all of that. If you teach really good

literature, if you do reading with classes and encourage children to

read, really interesting books and novels, then in fact you don't need

to be told what those things are or how to recognise them because they

are innate from what they have read in their books and I would rather

see a more of a push towards really good reading and interesting books

to read than going down this very narrow route of being able to

identify what a word is. Yes or no? Debbie, do you think the Education

Secretary will listen after the boycott today? Oh no, not at all.

Nicky Morgan doesn't live to anyone. She won't respond on any issue. She

doesn't listen. OK. I don't know what that story is, Debbie. We

haven't got the other side of the story, but anyway, fair enough.

Robert, will the Education Secretary listen? I would be very surprised.

No, I think, it depends what the numbers are I guess, but it will be

dismissed as a small number of parents with a particular view and

not representative and there will be no change, no. Clare Jones, yes or

no, will the Government listen? I would be surprised if they did.

Jemma, you're wearing your kids T-shirt? I would be surprised if

Morgan and Gibb listened. What will you do next then? I am assuming... I

will carry on with this. I'm fed-up. I'm not having this and I want the

teachers, the headteachers to know that we support them. I know that

the National Association of Headteachers is just balloted so and

they did that because of the support of the parents, because of this

movement. I think had there been more time, you know, this was a

grass-roots movement that came up through Facebook and social media in

a matter of three weeks. So had we had more time to mobilise, I think

more would have happened. Thank you very much all of you.

Thank you for coming on the programme. Sorry about my son. Don't

be daft. Don't be daft. Coming up, ahead of an inquiry

into undercover policing, we'll speak a woman about the devastating

moment she discovered her partner of two years

was employed to spy on her. Last year Leicester

were battling relegation. At the start of the season,

you could get better odds on Elvis Presley

being discovered alive and well, Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn winning

Big Brother or David Cameron becoming Aston Villa manager

than you could on Leicester But they've only gone and done it

and in quite some style. It's the ultimate

unlikely underdog story. And here is how the Leicester

players celebrated. Yes!

Yes! And this was the reaction

of some of the fans outside We have been consistent all season.

We deserve this. Absolutely amazing. Brilliant. We waited a very long

time for this to happen. Now it has happened, we're elated. Champions,

can't beat it. I don't know.its amazing. This is like the best!

We're never going to do this again. This is like a night in, I don't

know. Yeah, once-in-a-lifetime. Yeah, we're a positive city. We

believe and this is what happens, you know what I mean? Champions.

Easy! Easy! Think and it will happen. This is amazing. This has

been a heartache. Seeing my team doing this has been amazing. I have

gone through so many heart attacks. We've done it. I love it. Thank you

very much! I love you! Mwah! So let's get reaction

from Leicester fans. How are you? I'm over the moon. It

is a day I didn't think we would see in my lifetime. I thought we would

win the FA Cup and that would be our star, but it is something I never

ever dreamt of and I don't know what to say. It is fantastic!

Now, you were at the theatre last night, so were you getting updates

from mates about the Chelsea Tottenham game? It was really funny.

We were at the Curve Theatre which is Leicester's local theatre. And

there was a very weird vibe around the theatre last night. You kept

seeing mobile phones opening slowly and peering at the scores and all of

a sudden, the audience right near the end of the show started nudging

each other and listening to what was going on. The show then carried on

and right at the end the star of the show came out and just held up a

Leicester scarf and said, "You've done it. You've won the Premier

League." Do you think this represents a change in English

football? Ie a team that has not spent hundreds of millions of pounds

on players in a season or a couple of seasons can now win the Premier

League or is it a blip? What do you think? No, I think this is a moment

where all the smaller clubs, any club that is now in the Premier

League can now say right, we can do what Leicester did. Let's have

enough of these big sides or we just go forward trying to win. It is not

in the history books anymore. It is proven it can be done and you know

what, anyone from any side, who gets in the Premier League now can win

this absolute fantastic trophy achievement. I think it is

achievable for everyone and I urge any club to go for it like we've

done. You have got to have a sensible manager who, you know, is

straight and direct and polite and doesn't play mind games. You have

got to have a team, a team with no particular stars. A team that pulls

together for the sake of the club? Yeah. Oh definitely. You've got to

have everyone singing off the same hymn sheet. You have got to have all

of our supporters, owners, everyone, all singing together and a manager

that can keep everyone calm through these very exciting times. You see

many managers coming out saying that, "We're going for the title

this year. We're going for anything that we can possibly achieve and

win." With our manager he has gone, "We're going to stay out of

relegation. We're going to get in the top half of the league. We're

going for Champions League. We're going for the title." He has kept

everyone cam and all the players, all the city, the country, he kept

calm. Let's hear from him then. You probably know he went to Italy,

didn't he, to see his mum to have lunch with his mum. He was

apparently on a plane when Tottenham and Chelsea were playing, but we

have got a clip of him. Let's have a listen. Let's look at him.

How are you, how does it feel? I feel good. I feel good. You can

imagine. Where were you last night? I was at home to watch the match.

You had your lunch with your mother? Yes, I had lunch with my mother and

I came back on the aeroplane and arrive at 7pm and I watched the

match. Have you spoken to any of the players yet? No, not yet. Not yet.

We enjoyed it together. You have now won a top division title. It is the

Premier League, what does it mean to you? Oh, it means the job is good!

LAUGHTER I'm very happy now because maybe if

I won this title a the beginning of my career now I forgot, no, now I'm

a very, very old man and I can feel much better! OK. Thank you. What

were the emotions last night? At the maximum level. How much does this

mean to you to win a title after so long? Look, I said every time, I am

very happy for the fans forks are the chairman, for everybody, for all

the Leicester community. How have you done it, what's been the secret

to Leicester's success this season? I don't know. I don't know the

secret. I think the players, the heart, the soul, how they play it.

What's your message for the fans? Keep going. We want to improve a

lot. Thank you very much. We want to improve a lot. So are you

nervous about the Champions League, Gary, what are you thinking, or do

you not want to go that far ahead yet? No, we are all thinking of the

Champions League now. We started singing last Saturday, Barcelona,

we're coming for you as Tottenham kept quoting to us during the

season. We are going to enjoy every single moment of this. The city is

behind it. I think most of the country are behind us. We are that

little team that eight years ago were fighting for our lives and got

relegated to League 1. Eight years fast forward and we are champions of

England. Fantastic. One more video diary from you to

come. Actually, it is two more. Yes, two more. We could not make it well

with Sandro this morning, but we love her, give our love to her. I

will let her know! The latest weather update now.

Beautiful start the day for many of us, some showers in the forecast,

and you can see the speckles in the cloud, where we have the speckles is

where we have the showers. Some across the North and the West have

been heavy, and some have had hailstones and some thunder. Quite

breezy in the northern half, some will blow to the east, but in

between them all, you will find some sunshine, showers becoming less

widespread across Ireland through the afternoon, and for much of

England and Wales, apart from the Midlands northwards, pretty much

drier, temperatures up to 16, quite pleasant. Through the evening and

overnight, cloud dispersing, showers becoming confined largely to

Windward Coast, and then another weather front coming in introducing

rain, when the cloud breaks, in rural areas, it is going to be a

chilly start. Tomorrow we begin with sunshine, more rain spreading very

slowly south-east. Hello, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

welcome to the programme. The top story, for the first time in

their history of 132 years, Leicester City have won the top

flight of English football and how did they celebrate? They were at the

house of star striker Jamie Vardy. Also on the programme: two of

Britain pot youngest transgender children tell us their lives are so

much better now they are going to school as girls. This used to be me,

me as a boy, and it was like that for a long time until, I am a girl.

And then I am happy happy happy. New figures obtained by this programme

show that the number of children aged ten or under referred to gender

identity clinics has almost doubled in a year and includes three three

year olds. I feel more like a girl, I do not feel like a boy it a lot.

We will bring you an interview with a woman who made the devastating

discovery that her boyfriend of two years was an undercover cop, implied

by the state to spy on her. -- employed.

Here is Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

Leicester City fans are celebrating their club winning

the English Premier League for the first time

The team were many pundits' tips for relegation at the start

of the season but they defied odds of 5000-1 to win the league.

Celebrations took place across the city last night.

The players and manager Claudio Ranieri have arrived for training

this morning and as you can imagine, they were all smiles.

Thousands of parents across England are keeping their children home

from school today in a protest about national tests for six

They claim the SATs are causing children stress and anxiety,

but the government argues that they hold schools to account.

One mother has told this programme how three of virtual than staying

home. Trinity stopped eating for a few days because she was so stressed

because of the stress of being at school. Children are becoming bored

at school because they are doing just maths, and comprehension test,

not having any fun. Teachers are having creativity taken away, not

able to teach how they want to teach. It is not a good way for

children to learn and they are not happy at school.

The number of children aged ten or under who have sought help

from the NHS because they're unhappy with their biological sex,

167 young children have been referred to the NHS, including three

In total, over 1300 under-18s have been seen by NHS services.

There's a warning today that the introduction

of Universal Credit, the Government's flagship reform

of the benefits system could leave 2.5 million families worse off.

The independent think tank, the Resolution Foundation,

claims the changes are jeopardising the main objective of ensuring

that people are always better off in work.

The Government has announced a further expansion of the payment,

which it says is 'transforming' welfare.

Celebrities went high-tech last night as they gathered

Beyonce wore a latex gown and there were lots of metallic

which this year was Fashion in an Age of Technology.

The tickets for the exclusive event cost more than ?20,000.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News, more at 10.30.

Leicester City supporter I have watched with pride the players on

the field, wherever it came from, it was just leaned to watch the sheer

determination and their belief, they played as a team, wonderful. The

beautiful game played by Leicester City. This text message from Irving,

" I feel just as excited as if we had won it, I am not a Leicester

City fan, I support liveable". " this will be great for kids, with

ability and hard work, they too can be successful". " I hope Jamie Vardy

scores a goal that wins England the European Championships this summer."

On Facebook, Hilda says, " fantastic that Leicester have done it, it

shows it is not just about clubs with loads of money, it was the

team's attitude and good leadership. you have thought about belief in the

team, there is still a sense of disbelief that Leicester City have

done it, becoming the most improbable of Premier League

champions, but they still have two matches to play, they will get the

trophy on Saturday, they have gone back to work this morning, Andy

Swiss has been working a lot over the last 24 hours, there he is, at

the training ground. We saw the scene from last night, they have all

come back, you grab a quick word with Claudio Ranieri. You can see

the gaggle of waiting media here at the training ground, we were not

sure if the players would be here this morning, obviously they were

partying at Jamie Vardy's house after they clinched the Premier

League title, yes, they have started arriving, looking bleary eyed. Jamie

Vardy arrived 30 minutes ago, he did not speak to the waiting media but

the man at the moment, Claudio Ranieri, he did, as he arrived at

the training ground, this is what he had to say. I feel how you can

imagine. Where were you last night? You had lunch with your mother? Yes,

I had lunch with my mother, I came back on the aeroplane, and an eight

o'clock, I watched the match. I have not yet spoken with any of the

players. I am waiting to enjoy it with them together. 28 years you

have been a manager, five different countries, you have now won the

Premier League, your first top division title, what does it mean to

you? It means we have done a good job. I am very happy now, perhaps if

I had won this title at the beginning of my career, I have by

now I would have forgotten because by now I am a very old man! But I

can feel much better now! Thank you very much. The emotion was... At

maximum, at maximum level. How much does this mean to you, to win a

title after so long? As I have said every time, I am very happy for the

fans and the chairman and everybody, all of the Leicester community. What

has been the secret to success is season? I do not know the secret, I

think the players, the heart, the soul, how they play it. What is your

message for the fans? Keep going, we want to improve a lot! There want to

improve a lot? They have been pretty good already this season! It all

turned engineer at rivals Tottenham Hotspur dropping points at Chelsea,

Claudio Ranieri called Guus Hiddink, Chelsea manager, straight afterwards

and said, thank you very much. Ugly match, wasn't it. Very

controversial, here in Leicester, for the thousands of fans watching

in the pub, pretty downbeat at half-time, Tottenham leading 2-0 but

Chelsea came back, pulling one back through Gary Cahill and then with

less than ten minutes left, that stunning equaliser from Eden Hazard,

which sparked jubilation for the Chelsea fans at Stamford Bridge and

jubilation for the Leicester City fans here. 5000-1 outsiders, at the

start of the season, they have become the Premier League champions.

A team that so many had written off, nearly bottom of the league this

time last year, only survive by the skin of their teeth, and using one

of the greatest upsets in sporting history, a few bleary eyed fans

around here, but they will be celebrating for plenty more days to

come. What's next for Leicester City, obviously they picked up the

trophy on Saturday. Interesting talking with some of the fans

yesterday before the match, a lot of them were hoping that it would wait

until Saturday, that Leicester would win the title in front of their home

fans, at the King Power Stadium. It was not to be, they do not seem to

be minding that too much this morning. They will receive the

trophy, at home, on Saturday, their last league match of the season.

That promises to be another afternoon of huge emotion. Many

thanks, well done for squeezing your head into Claudio Ranieri's front

window, as well, as he arrived at training. That is all for the

moment, we will be back with the headlines in the next half hour.

Throughout the programme this morning we're bringing you up

to date with two children we first met just over a year ago.

They're called Lily and Jessica, they're 7 and 9 and were both born

They're two of the youngest transgender children in the country

and we've been following their story over the last 12 months.

Exclusive figures for this programme show that the number of children

aged ten or under who're being seen by the NHS because they're unhappy

with their biological sex has almost doubled in the last

That figure includes three children aged 3.

An hour ago we bought you Lily's story and now this is Jessica's

Thank you to the update, says one viewer, it is immensely important to

raise awareness, great response from the school as well. Very moving

story about Lily, wonderful response from her school, sensitively handled

by all, wonderful. Neil Ellis can says, the wee boy on Victoria

Derbyshire with a transgender sister, " when I dress up as an army

man and she dresses as a fairy, it is still OK:

man and she dresses as a fairy, it is still ", it is magic! -- it is

still OK", it is magic! I'm not going to end up

being a boy forever, because I will be a girl,

and I know that. I get a bit annoyed and angry

because I don't like it and I can't Can you tell me about the day

when you were walking to school and you were wearing a dress

for the first time? When we walked through the school

doors, the office assistant said, "Hi, Jessica,"

and Mum was really shocked. In a good way?

Yeah, in a good way. And how did you feel when she said,

"Hi, Jessica"? Why would being a boy make

you unhappy, do you think? I felt really, like, kind of upset,

because I want to be a girl. I wanted to change my name for good,

so I asked Mum and she said, "OK." I feel really glad that I don't

have to do boy stuff. We got my ears pierced

on the last day of school. We're allowed to get our ears

pierced in school but you're not Well, it's starting to get

a little difficult. She's had a really good year,

school has gone really well, and now she can get her name changed

legally because we've But she's been having nightmares,

just that she's going to die a man and she's going to have a beard,

and she's already started I thought we would have another year

of things being quite straightforward before puberty

hit, I think, really. Yeah, I think just dealing with it

as we go on, because things I didn't want to do anything

about it until we felt Jessica and the family was in

a more stable place. I thought, now's the time that

I need to be more true I think it's made it a bit easier,

because Jessica's got somebody who understands more

what the changes are going to be. We know what sort of path

she's going to be able Why is it so important for people

to see you as a girl, and to treat you as a girl,

and to call you your girl's name? What about sometimes people forget

to treat you as a girl, I get a bit annoyed and angry,

because I don't like it, and I can't Your parents have mentioned that

sometimes you have some bad dreams about getting a bit older,

is that right? Growing up as a boy.

Having a beard. What do you think you could do,

possibly, to stop that happening? And they will pause that,

stop that from happening? Did you mention that to the doctor,

about the blockers? When you're older you can

have them, maybe. But it is quite a long

way away, isn't it? How did that make you feel,

when the doctor said that? So, when I met you,

since I met you last year, your stepdad has now transitioned

to being treated like a man. If he wants to be a man,

then he's allowed. Do you think you understand how

he feels because you have transitioned, too, in a different

way, but you have transitioned too? I know what it feels like to not be

called what you want to be called. How much are you looking forward

to the day when people don't talk about it any more,

and just crack on with Because I'm not going to end up

being a boy forever, because I will be a girl,

and I know that. Sometimes it doesn't feel

like that, though. And just to let you know,

the children, their parents, their schools all gave

their permission for our interviews. You can watch the film again

by going to our programme We've posted links to it

on social media. Later in the programme we'll hear

from both Lily and Jessica's parents and we'll talk to other people

who've transitioned at school. David on Facebook says, "Transgender

kids! ? They are nine and seven. They have no idea what they want to

be, never mind what sex/gender is." Jessica on Twitter says, "Thank you

for enlightening people. It is not something that a lot of children

grow out of." Leicester City football club have

defied the 5000-1 odds against them at the start of the season to win

the Premier League. They are still on cloud nine and

will be until their first defeat in the Champions League next season, I

shouldn't say that! Since finding out that her former

boyfriend was an undercover police officer, following her activities

as a green campaigner, Helen Steele has fought a legal

battle to get to the truth. She is one of a number

of women who entered into relationships unknowingly

with undercover Met officers. Today the public inquiry set-up

in the aftermath of these revelations is to decide

on whether parts of the proceedings can take place in secret,

protecting the identities Your view on whether parts of the

public inquiry should be held in secret? What happened with our cases

and with the cases of other women who have been deceived into

relationships with undercover officers shows there have been

serious Human Rights abuses being committed for a very long time now

and if all the evidence is heard in scret, we are not going to get to

the truth and we are not going to prevent these abuses from being

heard again which is our aim. We don't want anyone else to go through

what we've been through. My understanding is there is an

argument from the Met that parts of the proceedings should be held in

secret in order to, you know, keep back details of undercover

operations. Well, their application was for all of their evidence to be

heard in secret. All the documentary evidence would only be seen by them

and the judge and all of their own evidence would only be heard by them

and by the judge and of course, that would mean that only their side of

the story got told because we wouldn't be in a position to

challenge any of that evidence. So you would have a completely

one-sided inquiry. We have seen with the result of hill hill last week

when you have the police in -- Hillsborough last week, when you

have the police in control of the information, you end up with a

cover-up and basically the evidence needs to be out in the open so it

can be tested and accounted and so we can get to the truth about why

these Human Rights abuses were allowed to happen. Tell us about the

relationship you had with a man that you knew as John Barker, but who in

fact was a man called John Dynes, an undercover police officer. I got to

know John over the course of three years. He became a close friend and

we started a relationship and we were in a relationship for a couple

of years. We lived together and we talked about spending the rest of

our lives together. We talked about having children together. Then he

seemed to be going through some sort of mental Break Down before he

disappeared and it was then, 19 years before I found out the truth,

but on the way, I discovered after about two years after he

disasphered, I had been trying to find him because I was very worried

about him and I discovered that he been using the identity of a child

who had died when he was eight years old. And that absolutely ripped my

world apart because at that point, you know, here was someone I thought

I knew really well and I didn't know anything about him at all. I didn't

even know his name and it through my other relationships into doubt. And

I think the thing about this is, it is not just happened to me. This is

not about individual rogue officers. The case that I was involved with,

there were eight women who had relationships with five different

police officers over a period spanning nearly 25 years. And there

are more relationships that are currently going through the legal

system as well. So this is absolutely about an constitutional

practise. It is institutional sexism to think for the police to think

that they could use women in this way to shore up the fake identities

of under cover officers. When you say he disappeared one day,

actually that is exactly what happened, he left you a note. You

were in a committed relationship? Yes. Talk bgt future and suddenly

there is a note left in your home, one day, saying what? I can't cope

anymore. I'm going. I mean, after the initial note he did actually

come back, but then we went through a very difficult period of a few

months where he would just seem to be going through some sort of mental

breakdown before he finally disappeared and posted me two

letters from South Africa saying he gone there to sort his head out and

if he did, he would come back. And obviously, I was still deeply in

love with him and I was very concerned about his well-being. Soy

just spent ages trying to find him, but everything that I investigated

turned up, you know, I was hitting brick walls and now I know, the

reason for that is because his whole identity was fake and it was, you

know, I had seen his passport, but that was fake as well. His whole

identity was being propped up by the State that was, you know, that had

put him into my life. You wanted to confront him effectively, you wanted

to eyeball him and ask him why he had done this to you and you flew to

Australia in order to do that and we have got footage of that. What did

you say to him and what did he say to you? Well, actually I went to

Australia not to confront him. I went to Australia because I was very

concerned that although we had received the apology in November

where the police... From the Metropolitan Police? From the

Metropolitan Police where they acknowledged these were serious

Human Rights abuses and this should not happen again. I was very

concerned that he was now working in Australia, training Indian police,

in subjects that included what is loosely called left-wing extremism

which is a term that's never defined and actually seems to pretty much

encompass anybody that criticises the status quo. I was very worried

that these now discredited tactics in this country might be being

exported to other countries and other women in other countries would

go through these serious abuses. So I went there, I went to Australia to

basically expose what had happened over there and so that people knew

what his background was. I saw him at the airport and I did decide to

confront him. It was an on the spur of the moment decision and, I mean

really, it is very hard with these things because for him, he was

meeting somebody who he knew 20 years ago, but for me, I was meeting

a completely different person, you know, I knew that the character that

he had acted, I was then at the airport, I was meeting the actor and

they were very, very different people. And that became apparent

during the conversation and it just really left me with a sense of I've

actually got no idea of what I can believe of what you said, you know,

you're a professionally trained liar. How can I possibly judge what

it is of what you're saying is true. You mentioned the apology from the

women. You received compensation, I understand it is a six figure sum.

Explain to our audience why is That is not enough. Explain to our

audience the impact of real identitiesing you were duped into a

relationship which you maintained for a number of years thinking that

the man that you were in love with was actually somebody else who was

paid to spy on you? Well, it has a very, very serious impactment for

starters, it afcts your ability to trust in future relationships. Then

that seriously impacts your future relationships. For most of the

women, it was hamming at critical times of their lives. We only have a

limited time in our life when we are able to have children for some

women, it meant they can't have childrenment for other women, they

have had children out of the relationships and it is devastating

to have a child and discover 26 years later, as one of the women

did, that the father was actually an undercover policeman in your life

and you know, frankly, this is absolutely shocking that this could

go on in this country. People didn't want to believe it at first and

that's why we brought the cases and that's why it is important that this

public inquiry is held in the open, so that the truth comes out. And it

is not just the truth about relationships either, we have also

got the fact that the undercover police officers have been spying on

the grieving families of people who have lost loved ones for example.

The family of Stephen Lawrence. Who could believe they would spy on that

family? You've got the spying that was exposed last week on green MPs.

It seems to be anybody that's challenging the status quo or

capitalism and you've also got what needs to come out into the open

about the links between the spying by the undercover units and

information going to private corporations which is then used to

blacklist trade unionists and health and safety reps in the workplace.

All of this needs to come out in the open and if the police get their

way, and it is held in secret, there will be little point in this public

inquiry. Thank you very much for coming on

the programme. Coming up: we have been catching up with two of the

youngest transgender children in Britain, we have been following

their story, and before 11am, we will hear from both sets of parents.

Also, we will be live at the King Power Stadium in Leicester, as the

party continues. Here is Joanna in the BBC Newsroom

with a summary of today's news. Leicester City fans

are celebrating their club winning the English Premier League

for the first time Their Italian manager Claudio

Ranieri and his team arrived for training as champions this morning.

At the start of the season, they were 5,000 to one to win the League,

but the Foxes claimed the title last night when their nearest rivals

Spurs failed to beat Chelsea. The number of children aged ten

or under who have sought help from the NHS because they're unhappy

with their biological sex, 167 young children have been

referred to the NHS, including three In total, over 1300 under-18s have

been seen by NHS services. The commodities trading firm,

Liberty House, has confirmed it will make a formal bid to buy

Tata Steel's UK assets including A spokeswoman said the company

would submit a letter of intent Thousands of jobs are at risk,

including the works at Port Talbot in South Wales.

Celebrities went high-tech last night as they gathered

and there were lots of metallic outfits to illustrate the theme,

which this year was Fashion in an Age of Technology.

The tickets for the exclusive event cost more than ?20,000.

That's a summary of the latest news, join me for BBC Newsroom live at 11

o'clock... Claudio Ranieri has praised his

players, saying their focus, determination and spirit has made it

possible to win the Premier League title, some flash photography coming

out right now. This was the players party, at the house of Jamie Vardy

last night. Very runny reset the heart and soul of his players is the

secret of their success. will be back in the Premier League

lets season, Brighton and Middlesbrough face each other on the

final day for the other automatic promotion spot. Dundee United have

been relegated from the Scottish Premiership, their fate was sealed

last night by a 2-1 defeat to neighbours Dundee. Leicester's Mark

Selby has become the World Snooker champion for a second time, beating

Ding Junhui, 18-4, he won the title just 13 minutes after his Leicester

City team became Premier League champions. -- 18-14.

Rumours sweeping Westminster about a possible challenge after the EU

referendum is out of the way. Len McCluskey at the weekend was

accusing named Labour MPs are trying to use the anti-Semitism crisis to

destabilise Jeremy Corbyn. This morning he has put rocket propulsion

under those stories by hitting back, insisting that he will carry on and

if there is any leadership challenge, he will stand much and

accusing folk like me and the media of fuelling this whole saga, saying

that he does not know who these Labour MPs are who are plotting

against him, we could probably give him a long list of people that are

talking about trying to oust him. The other thing that was

interesting, he seems to have raised the bar for these local elections,

saying that Labour will not lose any seats in the local council

elections. Why that matters, all of the pollsters seem to be suggesting

Labour could be on course to lose more than 100 seats. Jeremy Corbyn

says, no, we will not lose any seats, and a number of Labour MPs

will be saying, that is the bar, we will judge you against. This is what

Jeremy Corbyn said to me when I pressed him about some of that, and

he hit back, saying, out there in the real world, it is not what

people are talking about. They are talking about housing, poverty, NHS

cuts, zero hours contract, they are talking about low wages, they are

talking about the prices of expectation for young people, it is

time, quite honestly, that many in the golden circle of the media

establishment actually got out a bit and listen to what people are

saying. Do you think this is conjured up by the media? Many of

the media are obsessed with this rather than what they should be

observed with, devastating crisis of inequality in our society. If there

is a challenge, will you stand, come what May? I am here and I am going

on. You will stand, come what may. I am here, I am going on, come what

may, of course I will. Breathing space, critics cannot agree among

themselves, they are at sixes and sevens over what on earth they

should do about Jeremy Corbyn. Something, hold back and see if he

can have enough rope to hang himself. Others say, we simply

cannot allow him to go on like this but another problem, they do not

have it not 's candidate. It may be at the end of the day for all of the

talk of the leadership challenge, Mr Corbyn is saved by the fact that his

critics cannot get their act together.

Throughout the morning we have been hearing from Lily and Jessica, two

of the youngest transgender children in Britain, who have we -- who we

have been following over the last year. Exclusive figures revealed to

this programme show the number of children aged ten or under who're

being seen by the NHS because they're unhappy with their

biological sex Has almost doubled in the last year, from 87, to 167, and

that includes three children aged three. I spoke to Jessica and Lily

's parents about how life has been for their families over the last

year - now that both children go to school as girls. Their names have

been changed to protect their identity: Their names have been

changed to protect their identity. It has a ribbon, some people tie it

at the front, I tie it at the back. I am not going to end up being a boy

for ever, I will be a girl, and I know that. There has been a lot of

similarities with what your girls have experienced over the last few

months, quite a lot of differences as well, the main thing for Lily,

she has now transitioned fully, at school, she wears a girls uniform,

she is called by a girls name, what has that been like for you and your

husband? It has been a big year. Shortly after we did the filming,

last time, Lily said to us that she wanted to live properly as a girl,

and wanted to begin wearing skirts at school. That was the start of a

long journey for us. Through last year. We had a lot of meetings with

the school, to plan the transition, I think, it is called a social

transition. How apprehensive were you on skirt

day, Lily was going in, wearing the uniform, you had no idea what the

reaction was going to be from classmates, the rest of the school,

the rest of the pupils. It was an emotional time, the end

the little boy, it felt like a really important day.

Last time that we spoke, that was already happening, with Jessica,

what has happened since then, in the last few months. Well... I guess

that life has become a little bit more normal in a sense.

When they transition at school, it is all up in the air. Then it settle

down. To be a normal way of life I know that she has been having some

nightmares about growing a beard, growing a moustache. Can you tell me

a little bit about that? She has been down to me a few times. She has

come to see me in floods of tears, very reluctant to talk to me about

it initially, saying that I cannot help her, there is nothing I can do.

Did think it will happen instantly. That she is going to wake up

immediately, it is all going to happen, that it is beyond her

control. When we got together one year ago, your girls drew pictures

of how they saw themselves, how would you describe Jessica now? She

is struggling a little. She is a typical nine-year-old girl, she

stays in her room, this and to her CDs quite loud, singing along,

playing with her dolls, listening to Rihanna. She is having up and down

days at the minute but we are getting there. Difficult to watch.

Perhaps hormones are kicking in a little bit early, is that affecting

her? Is she thinking more about the future, is it worrying her. Kids are

kids, they don't always talk to you and tell you how they feel. That is

tough for you too. The same question to you, how is Lily doing? She is a

bit younger than Jessica, she is not yet thinking about puberty. And the

future. She has an inkling about bloggers and things like that but

she has not asked questions and talk about it, if there is anything

difficult to talk about, she did not want to talk about it, that is her

character, that is how she is. At the moment she is happy. There has

been changes in your life since we met one year ago, you have

transitioned to living as a man. Tell us a little bit about that. I

have pretty much felt the same as Jessica, but did not really

understand or know about this, until I had researched what was going on

with Jessica, and then I instantly knew myself. When we were talking

one year ago, and chatting back then, I remember asking you, two

women in a relationship, I wonder if... Do people think that has

influenced somehow your boy to want to live as a girl, to be treated as

a girl, and I think you said that somebody had talked about how you

had conditioned them. Some might see the fact that you have transitioned

from a woman to a man that that is proof, that is how you influenced

Jessica. If it was the other way around, if Alex had transitioned

first, and then Jessica, I would think that it was an influence, but

because it has been Jessica transitioning first and then Alex, I

have not come across anybody that has said anything that we have

influenced Jessica. It is really hard to know how much

people really understand this issue, and unless you have been there, as a

parent, and you have a child who is in the wrong gender, and is in the

wrong body, and you have lived with them every day and you hear what

they say, and see how they behave and react, it is really hard for

people to understand that. There are people who say your

children are too young to know how they want to live. Some people, even

now, having seen your children last year and 12 months on, they will

still be saying it is just a phase? We realise people think that and it

is hard to understand... But you can't act for that long. If it is a

phase this has been going on for a long time now and you can't be

something you're not for that long. This is a medical condition. This is

not a choice. This is just how people are born and how children are

born and you can hear the adults that are going through transition in

adulthood say they knew that from very early age and we're just trying

to support our children at that young age. So they can have longer

of their life to be who they want to be or who they are.

Lily and Jessica's parents talking about how much support they have

received from their children's primary schools to help them

transition to being treated as girls at school. An issue that schools are

being asked to help pupils with. Guidelines were written last year.

The Government told us they don't have a date for when the guidelines

will be published. Let's talk now to a teenager who didn't have a

positive experience at secondary school as Lily and Jessica had at

primary school. Jamie Bennett is 18. He transitioned to living as a male

having been born female. Lynn is Jamie's mum and Graham is here, a

member of school staff at a residential boys' school in

Yorkshire and supported various pupils who identify as being the

opposite sex. Welcome, Jamie, watching Lily and Jessica, are there

things, they were born boys. They are now living as girls. For you, it

is the other way around. Are there things you relate to from their

story? You know they wanted to play with the girls toys and my brother

wanted to dress up as a girl when I wanted to play with boys toys.

Whereas I was playing with the boys toys and I was playing with the

boys. At what age? Probably about their. Six or seven. This 2003 from

Mike is representative from so many people got in touch, "Can someone

please tell me how a child that aunlg can decide how they want to be

the opposite sex?" It is just the way we are. How would he feel if he

woke up in the morning in the other gender's body. You know there is

something wrong. When you go about your daily life, you know something

is wrong. You are not using those term, it doesn't feel right. Lynn,

as Jamie's mum, you are nodding in agreement here, what was it like for

you? As a mum, just knowing that he wasn't happy. And he need that had

support and guidance. The assistance within school wasn't there. So

transition was quite a bit of a rocky road. Since Jamie's

transitioned it has been phenomenal growth and development and support

that, it is out there. Perhaps when Jamie was a lot younger it wasn't,

but there is out there. Schools can access so many sort of information,

and it is readily available and they just need to move forward. In terms

of your experiences at secondary school, what was that like? Not

good. I think with gender you've got like the typical stereotypical boys

blue, girls pink and at school you have a female uniform and a male

uniform. I was made to wear the female one and I just wasn't happy.

Even the colour of pants was a big issue. Just because of the colour.

You wanted to wear the boys grey throws, and they were saying you

have got to wear navy because you were a boy? I went to Asda and

bought a pair of school pants. Did they think you were a rebel and

being naughty? I think so. The knowledge wasn't about, I don't

think they clicked, why are you being so adamant that you need to

wear that colour of school pants. And that leads to teasing and all

the rest of it and worse? Yeah. Graham you work in a residential

school and you have helped pupils who are tran circumstancing, how do

you do it? It is about conversation with the young person. I think one

of the biggest things is about educating the staff and educating

the school and having a good school policy to be able to support young

people when they come forward with those, with that situation. I think

a lot of schools aren't prepared, a lot of schools don't have that

policy so when a young person comes to them and says I want to identify

or starts to display some of the things that Jamie has been

describing, it is met with a lot of resistance. And not enough knowledge

really. There is not enough knowledge generally. Some of the

messages that we have had today are really quite abusive. And

derogatory. As though people are just making a whimsical choice to be

the opposite sex aged six? It is a big thing. And criticism of the

parents for allowing that? Yeah, I think that people get confused

between sexuality, gender identity, and gender expression. And I think

all three of those are very, very separate areas. Somebody's gender

identity is about how they feel and how they choose to identify and as

Jamie has said, you know. You know. That you're in the wrong body. You

know that you're in the wrong place. Gender identity is something that

schools really do need to be educating themselves about. Why?

Because I think as we expand, our knowledge of gender, literacy,

extend our knowledge of society, people are becoming more confident.

Young people are more aware. I find it very interesting that the young

lady who was talking about blockers aged nine, I know that there are

teachers who are out there now who are thinking, "I have no idea what a

blocker." If you have got a child who is nine and using that language

and you don't have that language, then you're already on the back

foot. You are already ill prepared to support that young person. What

has been your worst period in the last few years, would you say,

Jamie, going through education? I think it was probably my last two

years at High School. I came out as trans to my health work are, you

have a health worker who works at the school and then they got in

touch with LGBT and brought in a lesbian. They thought you were a

lesbian? Even though I said I was tRantion. They were trying to be in

denial of it really and it put a back step to me like why are you

sending in a lesbian when I told you I'm trans? You don't get it. I kept

it inside and transitioned through to college. And then started as he

and it was so much easier. I went to a college further away. So I didn't

have to bother with anyone from my High School. And how do you feel

now? I'm happy. I do loads of charity work for my mates. That is

an organisation that helps parents and young people worried about their

gender. How are you now? Fantastic. It is there will of the he is here.

He is alive and kicking. I'm fortunate, there is a lot of