11/05/2016 Victoria Derbyshire

It's 9 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire.

Our top story today, red faces all round?

The Queen's been caught on camera describing Chinese

officials as "very rude" - and at the same time David Cameron's

been caught telling her that Nigeria and Afghanistan

Also on the programme, can you inherit mental illness

My grandfather discovered he bone cancer and sadly shot himself.

When I was nine, my father, who had schizophrenia,

Now in my 20s, I myself get bouts of depression.

Do we inherit mental health issues I'd like to know?

Do get in touch with your own experiences

And war, poverty, huge job losses, uncontrolled immigration -

just some of the scare tactics we're hearing from both sides when it

comes to the referendum on the European Union.

But is it just putting you off altogether?

Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11am.

Throughout the programme, we'll bring you the latest breaking

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Our top story today, the Queen has been filmed describing

Chinese officials as "very rude" during their state visit

The incident was caught at a garden party yesterday by the official

Buckingham Palace photographer, during a conversation

between the Queen and the officer in charge of policing the event.

It came just hours after David Cameron was recorded calling

Afghanistan and Nigeria "fantastically corrupt"

Our Diplomatic Correspondent, James Robbins, reports.

The Prime Minister was among leading figure from both Houses

of Parliament marking the Queen's 90th birthday at Buckingham Palace.

The Palace cameraman, filming on behalf of major broadcasters,

captures the moment when Mr Cameron, flanked by the Archbishop

of Canterbury and a Leader of the House Chris Grayling,

is joined by the Queen and the Speaker of the Commons, John Bercow.

We've actually got the leaders of some fantastically corrupt

We've got Nigeria and Afghanistan, possibly two of the most corrupt

But this particular president is actually not corrupt.

The president's spokesman said he was deeply shocked

and embarrassed and Mr Cameron's remarks were out of date.

TRANSLATION: It is disturbing that despite all the efforts made

by the president in fighting corruption in Nigeria his efforts

Last autumn's controversial Chinese state visit by President Xi

was a subject of conversation with the Queen when she was told

by rows between Chinese officials on one side

and the Metropolitan Police and Britain's ambassador on the other.

At a palace garden an official accompanies the Queen to meet

the police commander in charge during those difficult days.

Can I present commander Lucy D'Orsi, Gold Commander

Who was seriously, seriously undermined by the Chinese,

but she managed to hold on her own and her mother, Judith,

who is also involved in child protection and social work.

You must tell, you must tell your story...

Yes, I was the Gold Commander so I'm not sure whether you knew,

but it was quite a testing time for...

It was err, I think at the point that they walked out of Lancaster

And told me that the trip was off that I felt err.

They were very rude to the ambassador.

It's highly unusual for two conversations like these to emerge

from Buckingham Palace, particularly in a single day

and which deals so directly with Britain's international relations.

Let's get more from our Royal Correspondent, Sarah Campbell.

How has this happened with the Queen then? Well, how it happened is that,

the nuts and bolts basically are the main broadcasters, the BBC, ITV and

Sky pay for a cameraman who on things like this garden parties,

visits that the Queen makes, follows her around and his job is

essentially just to take shots of her kind of snapshots of her so they

are not necessarily continuous pictures so it can be cut together

to give broadcasters something to work with. Essentially so everywhere

she goes, she is not followed by a mob of camera crews. That was the

agreement and it was at one of these garden parties yesterday, where the

cameraman Peter Wilkinson, would have been standing close to her. So

she would have known he was there. She may have forgotten and just been

having a conversation, but he is close to her and camera mics are

powerful so would have been able to pick up the conversation and that's

what happened. When the material was fed back to the broadcasters, they

picked up on it. Is it a PR hiccup or a PR calamity? Buckingham Palace

say they won't comment on a private conversation and said that the State

visit went very well. I think for people particularly Royal-watchers,

it is just fascinating. We have heard in the past, Prince Charles

made unguarded comments, and the Duke of Edinburgh gaffes, but I

can't think of a time when we have heard the Queen really say something

quite so bluntly, you know, calling another country, talking about how

rude they were and that's what is fascinating is it is a completely

unguarded moment and in all her long years on the throne, that happened

very, very rarely. Thank you very much, Sarah. Sarah

Campbell who is our deputy royal correspondent. A couple of messages

here. Stewart, "Why should the Prime Minister and the Queen not express

how they feel about foreigners. " Pall says, "Why shouldn't the Queen

and David Cameron express their opinions. The problem isn't with

them, it is with the people who leak it out." Imagine the fuss if we

edited out the sensitive material. What would we be accused of then,

Paul? Annita McVeigh is in the BBC

Newsroom with a summary A report has warned that

many of the most vulnerable hospital patients in England including

the elderly and frail are being sent The independent ombudsman

investigated 211 It also blamed poor planning

and co-ordination between hospital staff and health and social care

services, which it says The NHS says improvements

are under way. There is a shortfall of around

50,000 clinical staff in the NHS in England,

according to a report The Commons Public Accounts

Committee blames a combination of bad planning and

unrealistic savings targets. Our Health Correspondent,

Jane Dreaper, has the details. England's NHS needs more doctors

and nurses and hospitals Today's report warns

patients will face longer The MPs say Health Service staffing

needs to be looked at urgently. The latest figures show a gap

of 50,000 clinical Nursing shortages will continue

for the next three years and the report warns plans

for a seven day NHS haven't Patients at the frontline need

the healthcare and they're suffering twice because if there aren't staff

in place to deliver that, that causes them problems,

but it also costs them as a taxpayer because those places

are back-filled by agency staff. So patients are really at risk

of losing out here under the NHS at the moment

because of this crisis in staffing. The Government says the report fails

to take account of increases in the NHS workforce and plans

for extra staff will be in place Ministers insist a quarter

of England will have seven Thousands of suspected and convicted

criminals who skipped court bail while facing charges including

murder, child sex offences Figures obtained by the BBC show

more than 13,000 people are subject to outstanding arrest

warrants in England - Victims charities warned that people

fear justice will not be done. The Vote Leave Campaign will begin

its tour of the UK this morning, ahead of next month's referendum

on the EU. Before setting off on the battlebus,

Boris Johnson said voters should focus on the fundamental issues,

rather than infighting This is a referendum about taking

back control of ?350 million a week which we could spend according it

our priorities here in this country. It is about taking back control of

our borders and I think it is about getting back control of British

democracy and I believe in this country. I love Europe. I have got

many, many wonderful, happy memories of living and working, going on

holiday to Europe, most of my family come from one European or another.

Of course, we love Europe, but there is a difference between Europe and

the institutions of the European Union.

Detectives in the US State of Minnesota have questioned

a doctor who saw the singer Prince twice in the weeks before he died.

A police warrant reveals Dr Michael Schulenberg prescribed

medication to the 57-year-old star the day before he died last month.

It doesn't say what was prescribed, or whether Prince took the drugs.

An Indian woman has become a mother for the first time at the age of 72.

Daljinder Kaur gave birth to a baby boy last month following two

years of IVF treatment, according to her fertility clinic.

She and her 79-year-old husband have been married for 46 years.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

Wow, more on that story, of course, in the programme!

In the next few minutes, we'll look at what the evidence shows when it

comes to whether or not you can inherit mental illness

It's an issue that many people with history of mental health

issues in their family often ask themselves.

Use the hashtag Victoria Live and If you text, you will be charged

I look forward to reading your e-mails and tweets and texts. It is

time for the sport. Some West Ham fans were a disgrace

to their club. They really were. First, some breaking

news from the cricket world and, following a 20-year

international career, England women's captain

Charlotte Edwards is to With more than 300 caps

to her name, Edwards hangs up her bat as -

arguably - the most significant figure in the history

of women's cricket. Our sports correspondent Joe Wilson

has followed Edwards' Joe how do you assess her cbs to the

sport? Well, Ore. I think that point you just made saying she is the most

significant player in the history of the her sport and I would go along

about that and I know about the contribution of pioneers, but

without Charlotte it is impossible to think cricket would be where it

is now in terms of the women's game. Statistically you can look at it and

look at the runs she scored in One Day Internationals, more than anyone

else. More than anybody, male for female, you can look at the 220

times she captained England. 20 years as an international cricketer,

it is remarkable. But she has always felt she had a role until developing

the game. I have been with her in schools when she has gone into

coach. She had gone up to the front of an assembly and danced and sung

in front of primary school children. Anything really to try and get them

into cricket. Girls in particular. We are now in a situation for a

young girl in this country, in lots of parts of the world, where they

can actually feel they have a career option to play cricket. Now that

just wasn't the case when Charlotte was a girl. You know, she really

learned her cricket and improved her cricket playing with boys and

captaining boys teams. Along Charlotte's fierce determination to

score runs which is unmatched, there is the sense she knew she was the

figure head in developing the game globally. Imagine retiring from your

sport internationally, knowing that you've transformed that sport. I

wonder how many sportsmen and women can really think that at the end of

their careers. You touched on it there, Joe. She leaves the women's

game, certainly the elite side of the game in rude health, doesn't

she? She will carry on playing. One of the big developments this summer

there will be a professional domestic league in engnd gland, six

teams and Charlotte Edwards will play for the Southern Vipers in that

competition. I will speak to Charlotte in more depth this

morning. There is a quote from her, which is an interesting one. She is

talking about this decision for her to step down particularly in

reference with the new coach of the women's team. She says, "I would

have loved to have carried on, I fully understand and respect what

Mark is looking to do." Women's cricket is moving in a different

direction. Special emphasis on youth and special emphasis on fitness and

it is interesting to see Charlotte's decision in the light of that

progression. It is an intriguing direction. Stay with us

there for the final match at Upton Park last night. Those unsavoury

scenes outside West Ham which the fans attacked Manchester United's

team bus. Several people were injured, but no one seriously hurt.

West Ham promised life bans for anyone found responsible. The FA

said they will work with the police to investigate. Really disturbing

stuff, Joe. Well, it is disappointing that this happened,

Ore. I was around the ground before and after the match. It was

certainly a raucous atmosphere. I have been at football matches where

the atmosphere has been more poisonous, but to have people

throwing bottles at a bus is clearly unacceptable. I'm glad that West Ham

have released that statement this morning confirming that they will

try and find the people responsible and ban them for life. I also woke

up this morning Ore wondering why the Manchester United coach was

there at that time. So close to kick-off. Look, this was a game

which was unusual. So many thousands of peck spators outside the ground.

Many it come for the occasion without tickets and clearly, on some

level, there was a big breakdown in planning for that coach to be there

at that time. Joe, thank you very much, indeed. Those scenes marred

what should have been a special occasion for West Ham. We will tell

you what happened on the pitch in our next bulletin in a few minutes

time. Victoria, back to you. Cheers, Ore. Martin e-mails, "Maybe at 90

years of age, the Queen feels it is time to be less guarded."

First this morning, can we inherit mental illness from our parents?

What role do genes play when it comes to our mental health?

And how does that compare to life events?

Our reporter James Longman experiences depression -

his father and grandfather also both took their own lives - and he's been

Found it. " In cherished memory of Eric James Longman and John James

Longman". That is my grandfather and my dad. My grandfather died in 1979,

and then my dad in 1996. And they both took their own lives. And it is

weird, standing here, I am named after both of them, seeing my name

on that grave, James. My grandfather discovered he had bone cancer and

sadly shot himself. When I was nine, my father, who had schizophrenia,

set light to his flat and died. Now in my 20s, I myself get bouts of

depression. How do we inherit, do we inherit mental health issues? I'd

like to know. So, is it in our genes? This is DNA,

the genetic instructions each of us has, which store all of our

biological information. These strands are made up of about 20,000

genes. Genes are essentially codes that control the developer of

everything in our bodies. So how do they affect mental health? I am

Cathryn Lewis, professor of statistical genetics at Kings

College London. For mental health disorders, and actually most

physical disorders, most of the diseases that are a real problem for

us in society, a problem for the health service, are not about a

single gene, but they are about a collection of genes. And that

collection so far includes at least nine genes in which some changes are

more common in people with depression, 20 in those with bipolar

disorder, and 108 in people who have schizophrenia.

I remember him as being very kind of eccentric. He was very cool, he

always wore a denim shirt and tight denim jeans, and everyone thought he

was really dashing. We either lies people once they are gone, I think.

And if I do have parts of his personality, I think that's really

great. -- we idolise people. That is a Catch-22, am I like him in a good

way but also like him in a bad way, in the way that he suffered? At the

crux of when I get down, I think is this happening to me because of my

dad? And then it stops you being able to get over it, because you

think this was meant to happen to me, I am meant to feel this way,

there isn't a way out. So, what about a brother and sister? One has

mental illness and one doesn't. I am Johnny, I have been diagnosed with

bipolar disorder. I am Lucy, I am Johnny's twin sister and I am not

bipolar. When I have a bad episode, I'm not able to drag myself out of

bed. There are lots of physical aspects of feeling what people are

trying to call mentally unwell here. It is to do with your overall mood,

which affect your whole body as well, just wanted to throw that in

there. Also, you do see the world physically darker, it is a weird

thing. Colours are less bright, somehow. It is a very strange thing

to explain to people. It is most like all of your senses. I would

like to talk about your diagnosis and what that meant for you, to hear

that you perhaps had bipolar, and you had something which your mother

had. Oh my goodness, so many different emotions, and intellectual

responses that you go through. At the time, I cried with relief. My

mother has been diagnosed with bipolar and so have I. But I feel

like they are not the same conditions, it is hard to explain,

because every mental health condition is unique to that person.

A bit like our own personalities are unique. When people talk about

genetics and mental health, they also talk a lot about the

environment, and people's upbringing. What is the relationship

between your genes and the environment? We know that all of

these disorders have both a genetic and an environmental contribution to

them, nature or nurture, and the imbalance of the importance of those

berries across different diseases, it can vary in individuals. It seems

having a parent with a mental illness canning crease your risk of

developing one too, through your genes and your environment. If you

have a depressed parent, you are twice as likely to experience

depression. With bipolar, you are four times at risk, and in

schizophrenia, which my dad had, it is eight times. Over the years, you

have seen your mum and what she has had to deal with, and your brother.

Do you ever ask why not me? Green yes! Yes, I think when I was younger

it was there would be a slight anxiety of Will it be me? Even

though I think at the same time I always knew it wouldn't be. What do

you worry about, hope for, think about, about the next generation in

your family? When you are projecting to be a father you think, oh God,

I'm not going to be up to do this, not going to be offered to do that.

All guys I have spoken to worry about being a dad, and then it

happens and you are just in it. But I did think, yes, can I be a father

as somebody with mental health problems? What if this comes back

again? Can I not be a good dad? You might be a better dad for it. Yes, I

think that is the feeling. Awareness of what could mental health is as

half the battle to it. Given what our family has gone through we have

a very good awareness of it, and I would like to think my children from

a very young age are being taught and awareness of what could mental

health is, but I do think about it and I think it would be silly not to

be prepared for the fact that one of my children may live with a mental

health issue. In making this film, I have discovered it wasn't just that

he set fire to his flat, but he threw himself out the window as

well. And that was a bit of a shock. I just felt terribly sad. I just

felt terribly sad, I just think about himself on his own in the

flat. And he wasn't able to get out of the place he was in, in his head.

Scientists are working on new ways of dealing with mental illness, ways

that weren't available to my dad. I've been given unique access to a

new brain training programme at Kings College London. Doctors hope

this new technique could stop people with depression, like from having

repeated blows. I am a senior clinical psychiatrist at Kings

College London. In the brain is where biology and psychology meet,

because the brain changes in response to your learning

experiences, and that is why the changes we have found people with

depression, I think they are reversible, because connectivity in

the brain is a learning signal, so it should be possible to relearn

that. Scientists highlighted a specific emotion, guilt, because

they say people at risk of depression often feel guilt more

strongly than others. When they do, connections in their brain are

overactive much more than in people who don't have depression. The

researchers therefore hope that training your brain to not feel

guilt could help prevent depressive episodes. I had given the team some

trigger words to make me feel guilty. That is something a lot of

depressed people feel, including me, when we are low. As they appear on

the screen in front of me, my brain reacts. I am then told to think

about forgiving myself to try and think that reaction away. So James

has started his second training run, and we can see the thermometer going

up again, because he seems to be doing very well in bringing down the

level of connections between these regions, the connectivity. So I have

just had my results here at Kings from the MRI scan I had. They just

e-mailed it to me. It says it is good news. They have established

that the connectivity in my brain, as they would expect with someone

with depression was quite high before, but there may they put me

through the training and I was able to lower that connectivity, which

means I was able to reduce the feeling of guilt. It is pretty

amazing. They have managed to find a way to prove, through science, that

feeling self forgiveness can actually heal your brain. I am and

Longman, James's mother. When an episode comes on, the symptoms are

obvious, and I remember you were present once, and you said to me,

mummy, mummy, daddy's being horrible to me? Do you remember that? How old

was I then? Oh dear, five maybe? Because he was hearing voices? He

was hearing voices, and I remember him saying, this goes for you,

James, as well. So that frightens you, it is very frightening. Him and

me together, did that frighten you? That did, and that is why family

life developed the way it did, because I felt my Judy was to keep

you safe. Tell me about the day he died? What do you remember about the

day he died? I remember receiving a phone call, and I just went into

total shock, and then I burst into sobs, and I couldn't stop sobbing. I

felt I had been a failure and I hadn't saved him. Do you remember

being at school and coming to tell me about it? I do, you were a lovely

little boy in your royal blue blazer, and you sat on my knee, and

I can still see your little feet swinging, oh my me, why? And you

were in shock actually, you weren't crying. And I was told by matron

that at night you would cry and punch the pillow, saying daddy,

daddy, daddy. I was died? Yes, no, ten. We both suffer with depression.

Yes. Do you think there is something in our family, mentally illness? A

lot. All the time. Because there are many examples of it in his family.

And maybe in mind, I don't know. The worry I had was that you would

develop a psychotic illness, like your father. So when you look at

daddy, and you look at me,. Yes, sometimes your eyes are a bit of a

giveaway, your look, I can see you are troubled. But he would be very

proud of you down, very, very proud, because you are doing the things he

would never have been able to achieve. So what have I learnt? Life

experience and what we inherit from our parents both play an important

role. The possibility of mental health illness can be passed on

through the generations, but it is life events, and maybe sometimes

just luck, that determines who is affected, and scientists are getting

closer to figuring out how that works. I don't know what might

happen in the future. I don't know if my kids will feel the way I do

sometimes, but I know more about what my family has dealt with, and

somehow I feel closer to my dad. I feel more positive. Dental health

illness might run in my family, but the consequences don't have do. --

mental health illness. Thank you very much for your comments on this.

Sarah says this is excellent, thank you for this film. This tweet from

safe haven, mental health illness always comes up when talking with

friends, usually a yes, but it is really good to see reporters opening

up about this. This text says I was diagnosed with paranoid

schizophrenia in 2000. My son was diagnosed with bipolar. It would be

a blow to find out it is hereditary. My brain is a complex of pathways

and I do believe it is possible though. Anne agrees it could be

inherited, I think so, my father gets morose, a sister with

depression, an over alcoholic brothers and nephews. I have been on

antidepressants than nine years. This tweet from Colin, you know what

can be inherited? Stigma, and that can lead to metal health issues by

social influence. Thank you for those. Your personal

experiences will feed into the conversation we will have after

10am. It is really worth emphasising yes, the evidence suggests having a

parent with a mental health illness increases your risk of developing

one, but you're still more likely not to develop one.

In the next hour we'll chat to a father and son

who both have bipolar - about their concerns for the next

If you want to share that film you can find it on our programme

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Every day we are hearing fairly apocalyptic claims over whether we

should leave or stay in the European Union. Poverty, house prices

falling, uncontrolled immigration to name a few. Are those claims putting

you off the whole debate? That's what a few of have told us.

We will put those points to the campaign nears the next half an

hour. And West Ham's final

night at Upton Park is overshadowed by violence

despite a thrilling 3-2 victory. We'll hear from fans

and journalists at the game. Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

with a summary of today's news. The Queen has been filmed describing

Chinese officials as "very rude" during their state visit

to the UK last year. The incident was caught at a garden

party yesterday by the official Buckingham palace cameraman

during a conversation between the Queen and the officer

in charge of policing the event. It came just hours after

David Cameron was recorded calling Afghanistan and Nigeria

"fantastically corrupt", A report has warned that

many of the most vulnerable hospital patients in England including

the elderly and frail are being sent The independent ombudsman

investigated 211 It also blamed poor planning

and co-ordination between hospital staff and health and social care

services which it says The NHS says improvements

are underway. Thousands of suspected and convicted

criminals who skipped court bail while facing charges including

murder, child sex offences Figures obtained by the BBC show

more than 13,000 people are subject to outstanding arrest

warrants in England - Victims charities warned that people

fear justice will not be done. Heathrow Airport has promised to ban

night flights and to accept tougher controls on noise levels,

if it's allowed to It's part of its campaign

to convince the Government it should be chosen over Gatwick

for the location of a new runway. Gatwick has responded saying

an expanded Heathrow will affect hundreds of thousands of people

with noise and pollution. The Vote Leave Campaign will begin

its tour of the UK this morning, ahead of next month's referendum

on the EU. Before setting off on the battlebus

in Truro in Cornwall, Boris Johnson said voters should

focus on the fundamental issues, rather than infighting

within the Conservative Party. This is a referendum about -

taking back control of ?350 million a week

which we could spend according it our priorities

here in this country. It's about taking back control

of our borders and I think it's about getting back control

of British democracy and I believe I have got many, many wonderful,

happy memories of living and Most of my family come from one

European country or another. Of course, we love Europe,

but there is a difference between Europe and the institutions

of the European Union. Detectives in the US state

of Minnesota have questioned a doctor who saw the singer Prince

twice in the weeks before he died.A police warrant reveals

Dr Michael Schulenberg prescribed medication to the 57-year-old star

the day before he died last month. It doesn't say what was prescribed,

or whether Prince took the drugs. An Indian woman has become a mother

for the first time at the age of 72. Daljinder Kaur gave birth to a baby

boy last month following two years of IVF treatment,

according to her fertility clinic. She and her 79-year-old husband have

been married for 46 years. That's a summary of

the latest BBC News. In the last half an hour, England

women's captain Charlotte Edwards has announced her retirement

from international cricket. In a 20-year England career,

Edwards led her country to the 2009 World Cup and World T20 titles,

also winning four Ashes West Ham say they will issue life

bans for anyone found guilty of attacking the Manchester United team

bus last night. The Hammers were 3-2 winners in their final game at the

Bowling Ground. Roy Hodgson will announce his squad on Monday. His

final 23 was due to be revealed on Thursday. And the England prop Joe

marler says he is seeing a sports psychologist to address his lack of

professional control. The Harlequins forward who was punish following an

altercation with Wales forward Sam son Lee received another two week

ban following violent conduct last month. That's your sports headlines

for now. I will be back shortly. So many messages on depression and

whether you believe it can be inherited.

"It is hereditary." Edward says, "What a fantastic film." You can see

it on our programme page if you missed it. Robin says, "Brave, brave

people sharing their stories about mental health." Steph says, "Both my

parents had depression. I have depression and OCD. There is a

predisposition to illnesses inherited" Kimberley says, "I have

type one bipolar. My brother has bipolar type two. My father has

something on the spectrum disorder. It has never been diagnosed and our

mother suffers from depression. Environmental factors both my

brother and I were sexually abused growing up and our childhood was

quite abusive." More on that after 10am this morning.

On Monday it was war, on Tuesday it was poverty.

Who knows what claims and counter-claims we'll hear

from both sides in the EU referendum campaign today.

On some occasions in the last few weeks, it seems the hyperbole

between the two sides - to get their point across -

has reached levels of drama that wouldn't seem out of place

And in case you can't quite remember what's been said,

Can we be so sure that peace and stability on our Continent are

assured beyond any shadow of doubt? Is that a risk worth taking? The EU

itself and its anti-democratic tendencies that are now a force for

instability and alienation. The last thing on earth Churchill would have

been an isolationist, to want to stand apart from Europe right now at

a difficult time. I mean, there is something awfully un-British in my

view about wanting to leave. One of the striking things about the EU is

that it brought economic insecurity and massive youth unemployment.

Think about the history as we come up to the anniversary of the Battle

of the Somme as we think about World War II and contrast the peace and

stability in Europe for example with the instability and war we see in

the Middle East. The EU, despite its early, grand intentions has become,

I believe, a friend of the haves rather than a friend of the have

notes. If we retain that united Europe then Nato itself is stronger.

The European Union and Europe itself is stronger and our enemies, or at

least those who prowl around our borders trying to take advantage of

any opportunities like Mr Putin will be weaker. Instability is already

there in Europe. You look at what is happening in the Continent now. Some

of those nationalist tendencies that led to us conflict in the past are

being re-created, we are seeing the rise of extremist parties in Europe.

Why? Because of the democratic deficit. Britain would be

permanently poorer if we left the European Union. Under any

alternative, we would trade less, we would do less business. There would

be less investment and the price would be paid by British families.

The idea that if Britain voted to leave the European Union, we would

be instantly become some sort of hermit kingdom, a North Atlantic

North Korea only without that country's fund of international

goodwill. LAUGHTER

Is a fantasy of the it is a phantom. Well, we have representatives

from the two official campaigns. Vote Leave's Suzanne Evans,

UKIP's parliamentary spokesperson, she wants you to vote

to leave the European Union; and Stronger In Britain's Emma

Reynolds, a Labour MP and former She wants you to vote

to stay in the EU. But first let's hear from four

undecided voters Ryan Gray, Ammani Ahmed, Muyeewaa Adigun,and

from Bristol is Ben Crowden. Ben, I'm going to start with you

because you were for staying in and now you say you're utterly

undecided. How come? That's right, yes. The thing is I see well, well I

originally saw Remain as the status quo, but I think the more this

campaign has gone on, the more I've realised and the claims I'm hearing

from both sides about whether it will be all-out conflict and World

War three or whatever, whether we vote to leave or stay in, there is

no status quo. Things will, you know, be changed beyond anything we

can understand really. Beyond anything we can understand? That

sounds a bit apocalyptic. I didn't mean to sound apocalyptic. You are

undecided, but leaning to stay in, I think, what do you think of the

campaigning on both sides so far? I don't like Brexit's scaremongering

tactics and... Suzanne Evans is on the Brexit side. Tell her what you

think is scare mongery about it? You need to be scared if we don't leave

and this is going to happen. I don't like as well now how the Remain side

is starting to do it because they are steeping towards that level and

I don't agree with that. I think it should be, I think there needs to be

a lot more independent, unbiassed facts and statistics coming out to

actually educate people. How would you know if it was independent and

unbiassed? That's the thing. We don't right now. I know there is

some academics, natural they're going to have a bias and you had

can't really stop that, but to try and make more effort to do it. As a

student, there are a lot of people who kind of, you know, don't care or

they're not interested because they just think, politics, boring. Now,

you are entirely undecided. Yeah. Tell me what you think of the

campaigning? Both campaigns have really kind of gone for the

scaremongering tacticsment they are saying the same thing. What scared

you the most? Both are saying it is a security riskment both are saying

we are going to lose money. Both are saying we're going to lose jobs.

Maybe, it is true. Maybe it is true, nobody talked about the average

person on the street how the EU affects them and that's where they

fail to connect with the people that the EU at the end of the day is

about the people. How does it affect the ordinary British person. It is

all on the mac roe scale and never on the micro. Ryan, what do you

think of the campaign? Let's just tell our audience where you are,

you're undecided, but tempted by the Leave side at this point? I think I

agree with Ben, the status quo is going to change. One thing I found

annoying on both sides is that, the almost fantasy of claiming that

everything is going to be rosy on the other side. Either we're going

to leave and there is going to be loads of trade deals or the Remain,

suddenly we're going to have this unique partnership in Europe when

judging by Juncker and everyone there is, there is a lot of

scaremongering, I'm tiptoeing whether I will vote to leave or

remain. I may not vote at all. Really, why? I feel voting for

either side at the moment endorses their side and that kind of vision.

I'm not bought in by either side. I'm leaning towards leave, but not

enough to go out and actually vote leave. That would be a huge shame.

We can agree on that. If not anything else. Don't let other

people decide for you. Every person's vote counts, equally and I

hope that the younger up and coming generation will vote in great

numbers in this referendum because whatever we decide is going to

affect you for generations to come. Do you accept Ryan's point, a curse

on both your houses because he is not impressed? What disappointed

most about this campaign, there are risks either way because none of

have a crystal ball and none of us can look into the future. What Ben

said about the status quo is a fact. Neither side can look into the

picture and say this is what will happen which is why I was it is

pointed to hear George Osborne for instance in the clip you played

saying the economy will crash, there will be unemployment. He doesn't

know, you know, George Osborne has missed every economic prediction he

made since he became chancellor. That's with what he would call the

status quo. Instead we have had to find ourselves responding to this

enormous scaremongering from the Remain camp. You haven't had to, you

have made a decision to respond in a way. People are frightened. If the

Prime Minister stands up and says there will be World War III, what

are we supposed to do? He didn't quite say that. If Nigel Farage

stands up and says if Turkey joins the EU, 35mm could come to live --

75 million people could come to live in Britain. That is a fact. 75

million people will not. It is not a fact then. They won't all, let's be

honest, but they will have the right, once Turkey becomes a full

member of the European Union. I'm sorry, but are not taking lessons

from Ukip and Nigel Farage about scaremongering. They have been doing

it for years. I hope we can lead with the positives, and the big

positive Slammy our jobs and investments, they are attractive to

the UK. But then you must be really disappointed with the main figures

in your campaign who are using scare tactics? I think there is a

difference about pointing out some of the risks and scaremongering. I

think we attract jobs and investment because of our membership of the

European Union, I believe in that. The corollary of that is that if we

leave some of those things will be at risk. I wouldn't say that is

scaremongering. George Osborne goes on the television on Sunday morning,

and says if we leave the single market it will be a catastrophe.

Which it went of course because there are plenty of countries in the

single market not in the European Union. I hope we remain in the

single market, and I do think there are big risks if we leave, for jobs

and investment. But a catastrophe? Do you acknowledge that is

scaremongering? We don't know. That is part of a problem for votes

leave. People want to know what will happen

if we do leave. Do you want to know what politicians think, what

business leaders think, what the president of the United States

think? Who do you want to, or would you rather hear from Jason do real

on what he thinks or Calvin Harris? I am making the point facetiously in

order to see what you think. I think it is useful to hear politicians on

both sides, particularly Leave, because it is likely to be those

politicians who will the go she ate the Leave deal. President Obama, he

doesn't have a say, he doesn't have a vote, he has America's interests

at heart, not ours. Who do you want to hear from? I liked hearing from

Obama actually because I quite like him. I am studying US politics. Like

I said earlier about being independent, I like hearing about

politicians, and I don't want them to exaggerate the minor it is

natural, it is kind of in their being, and to make it a bigger deal

may be. But what you were saying about business and the EU and trade,

I think it is more difficult to predict if we left the EU what would

happen. Saying before about we can't predict it, but it is easy to

predict, and I think we have that financial security. Do you

understand what the European Union is all about ultimately? I am not

trying to scaremonger here, it is written in black and white, you are

a politics Juden so I'm sure you have the wherewithal -- student. The

directory of travel is towards a United States of Europe, that is

what it is all about, not a nation of different nations but a single

United States of Europe. The Germans and the French don't want to give up

their armies, they are not going to. Who do you feel you can trust?

Everyone has a right to their opinion, that is the same reason we

are hearing from, I want to hear from a technocratic point of view,

experts, but I feel that politicians opinions have been skewed by the

party line. David Cameron is in an awkward position because he can't

speak out because here is diminishing his own party. Even

Jeremy Corbyn as well, he is going against David Cameron, who is also

in the end campaign, so it is really awkward to get politicians's

authentic campaign. Just pick up on that point, it feels like a

competition for the conservative, for the leadership of the

Conservatives. If we decide to stay in, we have got George Osborne or

Theresa May, if we leave it as Michael Gove or Boris Johnson.

I think it has turned people off. An e-mail here, I can't help wondering

when the floods will return, an asteroid will strike or an alien

invasion will start. David Cameron has come up with every thing else. I

was quite content to stay in until all of the scaremongering. I will

now vote to leave. And if you want your voice heard

on the EU referendum, why not take part in one of our big audience

debates on the issue? We're in Glasgow on the 26th May

with an audience debate If you're aged 18 to 29

and can get to Glasgow, do email [email protected]

to have your chance to quiz senior politicians from the leave

and remain campaigns. The debate will be broadcast

live on BBC One at 8pm. And on the 6th June we're

in Manchester for another debate This one is open to everyone

and will take place in our normal Again, email

[email protected] to apply. It's not very often we get to see

the Queen being indiscreet - but she's now been caught

on microphone at a Buckingham Palace garden party describing Chinese

officials as "very rude" - She was talking to a senior police

officer about the Chinese President And she's not the only one to be

caught on camera saying something David Cameron will be welcoming

leaders of Commonwealth countries to London today for a conference

that starts tomorrow on how He'll have some explaining to do

when he shakes hands with Nigeria's president after what he said

to the Queen yesterday. He was caught on camera

telling her the two most corrupt countries in the world

were Nigeria and Afghanistan. "They're "fantastically corrupt"

were his exact words. A very successful antique corruption

Cabinet this morning, actually we have the leaders of some

fantastically corrupt countries in the world, Nigeria and Afghanistan,

perhaps two of the most corrupt countries in the world. But the

president of Nigeria is not corrupt. Because it is an anti-corruption

summit, there are no closed doors, it could be quite interesting.

Understandably, Nigeria aren't too pleased with his comments.

Speaking through his spokesman, Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari

said his government was deeply 'shocked and embarassed'

TRANSLATION: It is disturbing that despite all of the efforts made by

the President in fighting corruption in Nigeria, his efforts have gone

unnoticed. It is possible that the Prime Minister was caught unawares,

or he was referring to how things were done in the past, without

considering what is being done now. the director of the China Insitute

at the School of Oriental and African Studies and Manji Cheto

who's a Nigeria expert for the consultancy firm,

Teneo Intelligence. Thank you both for coming on the

programme. Michel, first of all, what do you think about what the

Queen has had to say? I am surprised. That is the thing, we

don't really know what this is about, something happened at

Lancaster house, the Chinese delegation walked out on the Chinese

ambassador, and we don't know why. It was perceived as rude, but for

them to walk out of a meeting like that, something must have triggered

that, so presumably something was done that set that for the Chinese

side, so it is a big mystery, actually. But what do you think of

the Queen being caught on camera expressing the fact she thought the

officials were rude. I can tell you what Chinese social media thought

about it, some of them are picking up on the fact that it seems that it

was a scripted, session, some of the comments were read out. They thought

it was scripted? The fact it is caught on camera, being put in the

public domain, so some people are saying that the Queen turned out to

be just another politician anyway. I think Chinese people are quite

sensitive to how media and government interact, because of how

things are in their country. Other people are saying we are always

worried about our politicians not knowing how to behave in civilised

countries like the UK, and this just proves they still have a lot to

learn, so a mixture of concern. In Nigeria in particular, is this a PR

hick up or a PR disaster? I think it is a PR disaster. But it is true

though, isn't it? The reaction from Nigeria has been Mr David Cameron,

thank you Patel telling us what we know, no one more than Nigerians

understand the endemic corruption in the country. But also people think

there is a bit of hypocrisy, we know that, is how your government has

helped Nigeria deal with corrupt money that has moved. If you look at

it, most of the funds stolen in Nigeria or any other African country

does not stay in stay in banks in that country, it moves into foreign

banks, London and New York for example, and yet Nigerians are

saying where are the prosecutions of the bankers, the lawyers, that

facilitate the movement of that? So the best way to explain it is

awkward for David Cameron. There is some movement from taxpayers here,

asking if Mr Cameron, you think Nigeria is fantastically corrupt,

why are we giving hundreds of billions of pounds worth of aid to

Nigeria? Do you think that is a fair point? Yes, and in Nigeria able fill

the same way. Why do you keep throwing money at Nigeria? The

amount of British workers that go to support that age, it is fairly

significant. I think a lot of Nigerians are saying fine, we accept

that, but you need to tell us what your government is going to help and

stem the outflow of money from Nigeria. This anti-corruption summit

happening in London tomorrow, does it put any more pressure on the

Nigerian government to do something to stop the corruption? The

interesting thing is, the president will certainly argue he has been

doing that. He has gone on a very public campaign. The Archbishop of

Canterbury actually pointed that out to the Prime Minister and the Queen.

Yes, the Nigerians could possibly say this, you think we are corrupt,

I have been asking you for help on this and it is time for you to play

your hands. That would be the Nigerian response. Thank you for

both coming in. Coming up to ten o'clock in time for the latest

weather. We have a lot of rain around this

morning, the best part of an inch of rain across the Isle of Wight.

Moving towards Wales. We have also got a lot of showers but not

everywhere. The north of the country, particularly across

Scotland, once again will see the lion share of the sunshine and the

highest temperatures. Into the afternoon as the rain advances

westward, it will be replaced by some torrential showers. Some of

them will have some thunder and hail in bedded in them, but in between we

will see a bitter brightness and some sunshine. The highest

temperatures likely to be in the West Highlands, somewhere around 23,

20 four Celsius. As we head into the evening and overnight period -- 24

Celsius. More showers coming in across the South. Meanwhile, murky

conditions like this morning and today generally across the newest

channel, the Channel Islands and the south-west, and again a muggy night,

except the far north where damages are coming down, and that is because

we have a cold front heading southwards across the Northern isles

tomorrow, bringing in some rain. But tomorrow, generally for the bulk of

the UK, a dry day, more sunshine and fewer showers. Many of us will miss

them and the highest averages tomorrow will be in the South.

I'm Victoria Derbyshire, welcome to the programme

Our top story today - red faces all round?

The Queen's been caught on camera describing Chinese officials

as "very rude" and at the same time David Cameron's been caught

telling her that Nigeria and Afghanistan were

A lot of reaction from you. Laurie says, "David Cameron should be able

to speak honestly about issues which exist. The Queen is within her right

to comment. Why do you in news have to exploit this?" Steve says,

"Aren't people allowed to relax and peak it to reach other without it

being broadcast?" Also on the programme -

can you inherit mental illness My grandfather discovered he bone

cancer and sadly shot himself. When I was nine, my father,

who had schizophrenia, Now in my 20s, I myself get

bouts of depression. Do we inherit mental health issues

I'd like to know? West Ham promises life bans

for supporters involved in violence Some fans threw bottles

at the Manchester United team bus overshadowing the club's final match

at the Boleyn. This is how Manchester United

players reacted. Annita McVeigh is in the BBC

Newsroom with a summary The Queen has been filmed describing

Chinese officials as "very rude" during their state visit

to the UK last year. The incident was caught at a garden

party yesterday by the official Buckingham Palace cameraman

during a conversation between Her Majesty and the officer

in charge of policing the event. It came just hours after

David Cameron was recorded calling Afghanistan and Nigeria

"fantastically corrupt", A report has warned that

many of the most vulnerable hospital patients in England including

the elderly and frail are being sent The independent ombudsman

investigated 211 It also blamed poor planning

and co-ordination between hospital staff and health and social care

services, which it says The Department of Health called the

failings unacceptable and it would ensure lessons are learnt.

Thousands of suspected and convicted criminals who skipped court bail

while facing charges including murder, child sex offences

Figures obtained by the BBC show more than 13,000 people are subject

to outstanding arrest warrants in England -

Victims charities warned that people fear justice will not be done.

Heathrow Airport has promised to extend the ban on night flights

and to accept tougher controls on noise levels, if it's allowed

It's part of its campaign to convince

the Government it should be chosen over Gatwick

Gatwick has responded saying an expanded Heathrow will affect

hundreds of thousands of people with noise and pollution.

The Vote Leave Campaign will begin its tour of the UK this morning,

ahead of next month's referendum on the EU.

Before setting off on the battlebus in Truro in Cornwall,

Boris Johnson said voters should focus on the fundamental issues,

rather than infighting within the Conservative Party.

This is a referendum about taking back control of ?350 million a week

which we could spend according it our priorities

It's about taking back control of our borders and I think it's

about getting back control of British democracy and I believe

I have got many, many wonderful, happy memories of living and

Most of my family come from one European country or another.

Of course, we love Europe, but there is a difference

between Europe and the institutions of the European Union.

Detectives in the US State of Minnesota have questioned

a doctor who saw the singer Prince twice in the weeks before he died.

A police warrant reveals Dr Michael Schulenberg prescribed

medication to the 57-year-old star the day before he died last month.

It doesn't say what was prescribed, or whether Prince took the drugs.

An Indian woman has become a mother for the first time at the age of 72.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

So many of you getting in touch. Mark e-mailed scth both my mother

and father appear to have undiagnosed mental health issues. I,

myself, have life long depression. I'm 50 now and my fear is my son

will develop the same. However, the fact that my parents were undig

knowed probably tipped the scales for me to develop the condition too.

I suspect my son will have an advantage over me as I am aware of

my condition. It may tip the scales away from a mental health issue for

him." Tim says, "The film helped a lot. There is a history of suicide

in my family. Someone mentioned stigma, you feel alone and helpless.

Through well-informed television, it can help people feel they are not

alone." This viewer says, "My family have a history of depression and

I've learned to read the signs, it is important to catch it early. We

need a word other than, "Mental" To describe this illness because that

word gives the stigma attached to it." Jackie says, "I believe mental

health disorders can be inherited, but environmental issues play a part

too. I live with manic depression and my mum and grandfather lived

with chronic depression and both had electric shock therapy. Thankfully,

I am attempting to manage by disorder with medication." Paul

says, "There is no doubt mental illness maybe triggered. There are

traits which affect others, especially children." ." Get in

touch with us throughout the morning.

Use the hashtag Victoria Live and If you text, you will be charged

Thanks Victoria. More on the story we broke.

England women's captain Charlotte Edwards has

announced her retirement from international cricket.

After 20-years at the top, Edwards is the only player,

male or female, to lead England 200 times.

She says she believes "now is the right time

to find a new captain" and leaves "proud of her contributiion

Here are a few highlights in what's been a legendary innings.

Edwards made her international debut against New Zealand in 1996,

becoming the youngest player to represent England.

She hit her highest ODI score of 173 not out against Ireland

in the 1997 World Cup, the day before her 18th birthday.

In 2005, she was part of an England team that won Ashes

The ICC named her Women's Cricketer of the Year

in 2008, a year later, double success - as Edwards guided

England to victory in the World Cup and the World Twenty20.

What a period it was in 2013 to 2014 when she led England to back-to-back

Edwards bows out of the international game as

arguably the most significant figure in the history

Without Charlotte it is impossible to think that women's cricket would

be where it is now. You can look at runs she scored in Twenty20

internationals, more than anybody, male or female. You can look at the

220 times she captained England. 20 years as an international cricketer.

It is remarkable. Now to those unsavoury scenes

outside the Upton Park - ahead of West Ham's last match

at the Boleyn Ground. West Ham have promised to issue life

bans to anyone found responsible, the FA also say they'll work

with the Police to investigate. The kick-off was delayed by 45

the glass was broken. The kick-off was delayed by 45

minutes as a result of the trouble. We live in this world. We know that

can happen. So you have to cope with that and I believe that we have done

that also. We were 20 minutes before ahead. I don't think it was

influencing. Those scenes marred what was a

memorable occasion for West Ham. They beat Manchester United 3-2 in

the final match to be played thereafter more than 100 years. They

will move to the Olympic Stadium next season, but the club gave their

home a fitting send off, bringing in former players to say farewell to

Upton Park. It was something their manager was proud to be a part of.

He said how good it was to be at Upton Park. The moments on the pitch

were much better than outside it. Thank you very much, Ore.

This morning we've been looking at whether you can inherit mental

His grandfather and father both took their own lives and he's been

We played you his full film earlier in the programme.

"In cherished memory of Berwick James Longman

My grandfather discovered he had bone cancer and sadly shot himself.

When I was nine, my father, who had schizophrenia,

Now in my 20s, I myself get bouts of depression.

How do we inherit, do we inherit mental health issues?

We know that all these disorders have both a genetic

and an environmental contribution to them, nature or nurture.

Mental health disorders are not about a single gene,

And it is that collection that scientists are discovering,

nine genes are more common in people with depression,

and 108 in people who have schizophrenia.

Johnny was diagnosed in his 20s. So many emotions and intellectual

response that you go through. At the time I cried with relief. I am my

mother's child, but I feel like my condition is unique. Lucy, do you

ever ask, why not me? Yeah. Yes, I think when I was younger it was,

there would be a slight anxiety of will it be me? Even though I think

at the same time I always knew it wouldn't be.

If you have a depressed parent you're twice as likely to experience

depression, with bipolar, you're four times more at risk and in

schizophrenia, which my dad had, it is eight times. Scientists are also

making progress in breaking the cycle of depression in ways my

father never had. In a new scanning trial at King's College, London, I

have given the team trigger words to make me feel guilty, that's

something a lot of depressed people feel when we're low. As they appear

on the screen in front of me, my brain reacts and I'm told to think

about forgiving myself to think that reaction away. We can see the

thermometer going up again because he seem to be doing very well in

bringing down the level of connections between these regions,

the connectivity. Forgiveness, it seems, can biologically heal your

brain. Mental health illness is passed on

through the generations, but it is life events and maybe sometimes just

luck that determine who is affected. This may run in my family, but the

con qens don't have to. It's worth pointing out that

even though the evidence suggests having a parent with a mental health

illness increases your risk of developing one -

you're still more likely not to. Our reporter James Longman

is here with us, alongside Norman Scates and his son Paul -

they both have bipolar and Holly Brockwell who has

mental health issues - her father took his own life

when she was five. Also with us Dr Lee Hudson

a paediatrician with a special James, it is clear why you wanted to

make that film, but tell us why it is so significant to you?

I mean all my life I've wondered about my dad and his father, it is

not just them, my uncle has bipolar and my mother suffers with

depression. The thing about when you have the depressive lows, one of the

biggest feelings you get is a sense of inevitability, a sense this is

meant to happen to me, there is no way out, there is something in me

which made me dimp to everybody else. You see the world darkly and

everyone else is over there and you're over here on your own and

making sense of my genetic legacy was really important to put together

a little bit of what has been going on and talking to other people and

the realisation, of course, as we found by the end of the film the

very act of talking and the act of making the film was really helpful.

It was really interesting to see you training your brain, what does it

involve? The thing that was really interesting, they are working from

the premise that when you feel depression particularly, not the

other mental illnesses necessarily, but oppression, you feel guilt more

strongly. You don't just get Locum you blame yourself for getting low,

and other people might resort to anger, they blame other people, but

depressives will blame themselves. So they decided they needed to

identify the part of the brain where these connections were firing up a

lot, where they were feeling this guilt. If you sat in the MRI

scanner, and it is a really awed process, I was sat there for an hour

doing this, and they give you these techniques to try and work it out.

As I say in the film, the one thing they found was working 75% of the

time, a very high success rate, was asking people to forgive themselves.

So are you lit surely and simply saying "I must forgive myself, I

forgive you, I forgive you". Yes, it sounds extraordinarily arbitrary and

very simple. It is a bit like CBT, cognitive behavioural therapy.

Giving yourself position -- permission to forgive yourself in a

way. It is an arbitrator feeling that the brain does respond. Really

interesting. Holly, your dad took his life when you were five, what

have you learned about his mental health since? From speaking to my

mum, it seems that he was suffering from manic depression. It seemed he

was very stressed with his job, he had a lot going on. I remember him

being quite stressed out, getting angry and arguing with my mum a lot,

shouting at us a lot as kids. It sounded like he did not the get help

that he maybe should have sought at the time. There was a lot harder

back then, in the early 90s, for men to speak out and get help. And what

impact has his suicide had on you? It has been enormous, it was 25

years ago now and it still affects me, so often all the time I think

about him. I feel like I am carrying him with me. I think about him, what

would he think of this, what would he think of me now, and just why did

he do this? Could I have saved him, I was only five, but if I had been

home at the time, if I hadn't gone out that day, Miss behaved that day,

you constantly think about what you could have done or what you might

have done. But obviously it is kind of futile, but it is the guilt

thing, you blame yourself a lot. Do you think you have inherited the

genes that make you more predisposition to have mental health

problems yourself? For me, it is less about genetics and about the

impact suicide has on you as a family. It makes you feel that as a

viable option to deal with your problems. Whenever you feel down and

you feel things are going badly, you automatically think of that because

that is most what you have been trained to think is the right

response. It has been at the forefront of your mind so much more

than it has been. I mean predisposed, not predisposition,

sorry. Paul, welcome, Norman, Paul's dad, you both have bipolar. For our

audience who want to learn more about this it is worth explaining

what bipolar is first of all. Bipolar is a combination of highs

and lows, basically. It is trying to get the balance in between, which is

a commendation of -- combination of medication and acceptance of the

fact you have got the illness, that is the big battle. And talking to

people. The immediate reaction is I have got this diagnosis, people will

ostracise me, keep me away because they think I am a danger. In effect,

it is educating people. That is why we need more mental health

workshops. It is very important. How would you describe it, Paul? I

attempted suicide when I was 16, it was very traumatic, I was left with

physical problems because I broke my back, and actually when you are in

that state of mind, you are almost taking an out of body experience.

For me, it felt like I didn't really want to die but I didn't know how to

stop the pain. I use the analogy of your head between a vice, someone

keeps tightening it and it gets tighter and tighter. For me, I have

the highs and lows, and rapid cycling, in the morning I could be

feeling OK, in the afternoon quite morbid and oppressed. But, like

James said, I have retrained my brain, and I have done mindfulness,

all about focusing your mind, grounding yourself, so when you

become stressed, you can start to manage it. Diet, exercise, mood

foods, all of that stuff. What impact does it have a

foods, all of that stuff. What that your son too Erik -- does it

have on you? As a parent, you feel the guilt, but it is not your fault.

You want to protect your child, and you feel that is my fourth. In the

end, you start to blame yourself you feel that is my fourth. In the

everything you do come you take it all on board, why is it happening?

If it wasn't for the all on board, why is it happening?

has been a rock and has had to deal with all of us, and they get

overlooked, because they are dealing with the massive trauma as much as

we are, the people who have the illness. It has certainly made Paul

and I much stronger, in terms of the relationship, because Paul can talk

to me about anything. And I would say my mum has prevented both my

father and I being admitted into hospital, support is so important.

League, you work at a hospital as a paediatrician, specialising in

mental health. How do parents react to you when their parents are

diagnosed with mental health illnesses? Norman said it all, some

of the texts and tweets from your viewers. Talking about the inherent

ability of mental health conditions, as a doctor I am in a fortunate

position that I get a look at the mental health than the physical

health, and to the two are not that different, they are both health

conditions. We frequently talk about people inheriting risk for heart

disease, for diabetes, for cancer, and yet when it comes to mental

health, it seems to be a more controversial topic. But in fact,

mental health does have this stigma, we have heard that word a lot, it is

something we need to break down, and when families are first confronted,

and individuals are first confronted with mental health problems, there

is this guilt, this shame, did I do something wrong? But having worked

hand on heart with many families who have mental health problems, and

children who have problems, it is families that makes things better.

Our parents give us lots of genes, some create risk, but most create

detective factors. We often worry about risk, actually there are

tonnes of protective things we can have, things we can intervene. We

can't do anything about our genes, but if we think about our physical

health, our stress levels, the way we engage in relationships, they are

so important that families are able to support children and young people

with professional support, that is critical, I think. Holly, does what

you have experienced in your family, with your father's suicide and the

impact it has had on you, does it have an impact in the way you think

about having children in future? I am not going to have children, ever,

but identity it is related, because my elder sister went through the

exact same thing, and she has two gorgeous babies. So how has what

happened to your father affected your older sister converter you?

Very, very differently, she takes it much less on herself than I do. I

tend to blame myself a lot and look for answers and go into all this

background and try to find out why and what happened, whereas she has

been more accepting, that happened, we have moved on. A lot of that is

because when we were growing up, she was a lot closer to our armed than I

was, so I think she found her comfort and support, as you were

saying, in that, and that really helped her to heal and move forward,

whereas I argued with my mum, conflicted quite a lot, spent quite

a lot of time blaming her for my father's death, which is ridiculous,

you can't make someone kill themselves. It was just something he

felt he had to do, that helped me heal, and my mum and I get on a lot

better now. Dr Hudson, can I ask you what you thought of what you saw in

James's film about the training of the brain. Is that something we

could be doing more of? There are already very well-established

guidelines about how we treatment shall health, and well accepted, and

some of those are very evidence -based. The trickiness is accessing

the services, if we are honest, and there isn't really parity across the

country around those services. People are having to have long waits

to see professionals around mental health. Years, in some cases, we

have reported on it before in the programme, it is outrageous. To be

fair to the government, it has been higher up in the agenda, mental

health, and the has-beens investment, but what has been put on

is not enough, and access to services is not enough, and if we

really want to take this seriously and make an impact, we have to have

the resources and services to do it. It is also about collaboratively

working with our third sector, Mind, Rethink, they are paramount. I would

like to end on the point of saying recovery is possible for everyone,

divided you are given the right support, techniques and skills to

learn how to manage your condition. Thank you all very much, a couple of

messages, Sarah says on Twitter it is really great to be so open about

mental health issues. It has been really informative. Thank you to all

of you for that. This e-mail, my grandmother had mental health

issues, she was in an institution where she received electric shock

treatment. She took her life before I was born. My mother's mum has

suffered from what she called her nerves, and had medication to help.

Although this didn't all come out until I was diagnosed with

depression and borderline personality disorder. I do think

there is a link with it being hereditary, something I worry about

as I am now expecting my first child, I just hope it doesn't affect

my first child but I know I have more understanding of mental health

issues so can help it if this happens. Also there is more help out

there now than what my two grandmothers had to them. If you

want to hear more from James Longman, he is taking part in a live

Facebook discussion about inherited mental health at a quarter past 11.

You can ask any questions, plus if you want to share his film, can find

it on the programme page. If you've been affected by any

of the issues raised in our film and are looking for further help,

support or information on mental health then please call the BBC

Action Line on 08000 564 756 or head Indian woman has become a mother for

the first time at the age of 72. She gave birth to a baby boy last month,

following two years of IVF treatment, according to her

fertility clinic. She and her 79-year-old husband have been

married 46 years. I have been spitting to her husband

and Daljinder. They are thrilled at the thought of having her new baby,

and are busy with the news baby obviously, but while that is the

case, we don't know her age, I asked this morning, and they said roughly

around 71, 72, but doesn't have a birth step with it. The clinic

guesses she is about -- doesn't have a birth certificate. Guesses she is

about 70, making her one of the older people to have a baby. This is

a phenomenon we have seen in India over the last few years, women

having children much older. This clinic especially specialises in

fertility for older women from the Punjab region. It is quite common in

that region, so not a lot of people were surprised, because they have a

task on hand, they have named him a name which means Desire. Something

they have desired all their lives. What about the ethics of a woman in

her 70s, a father in his late 70s, having a newborn, and how long they

will live for to care for their child? Absolutely. This is something

quite controversial, and this particular doctor has specialised in

treatment with older women. He says he sees about 1000 fertility cases a

year, and about one third are aged between 50 and 70, the women. And

the Indian medical council doesn't really approve of this practice, and

they have been lobbying hard to bring a ban on fertility treatment

for women above 50. But the bill has been stuck in the Indian parliament

for nearly two years now, three years actually. It is not something

that is promoted and is generally frowned upon in the medical

community in India, but it is popular. There is intense Society

pressure to have a baby, and facility is quite a sensitive topic

here, it is almost a social taboo if you don't have children. A lot of

these couples, there is property and land involved, if they want to sort

out the inheritance issues, they need to have children to pass it on

to. So it is complex, especially in this particular belt of northern

India. But increasingly couples in their 60s and 70s are going to

clinics like this to have babies. Thank you very much. Still to come,

it is the last day in office for some of the Police and Crime

Commissioners who have not been re-elected, and tomorrow a new bunch

will start. Hardly any of us in England and Wales voted for them,

but they are in place. So what do they do? We will speak to two of

them last night. And West Ham's final night at Upton Park was

overshadowed by violence, with some fans throwing bottles at the

Manchester United team bus. We will hear from some of those who were at

the game. Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

with a summary of today's news. The Queen has been filmed describing

Chinese officials as "very rude" during their state visit

to the UK last year. The incident was caught at a garden

party yesterday by the cameraman who covers the Palace for the UK

broadcasters during a conversation between Her Majesty and the officer

in charge of policing the event. It came just hours after

David Cameron was recorded calling Afghanistan and Nigeria

"fantastically corrupt", The Nigerian President has said

that he won't demand an apology. NHS patients in England,

including the frail and elderly, are being sent home from hospital

"afraid" and "with little support", that's the warning

from the health ombudsman. The independent arbitrator

investigated 211 such It also blamed poor

planning and co-ordination between hospital staff and health

and social care services. The Department of Health has called

the failings unacceptable and it Thousands of suspected and convicted

criminals who skipped court bail while facing charges including

murder, child sex offences Figures obtained by the BBC show

more than 13,000 people are subject to outstanding arrest

warrants in England - Victims charities warned that people

fear justice will not be done. Heathrow Airport has promised

to extend the ban on night flights and to accept tougher controls

on noise levels, if it's allowed It's part of its campaign

to convince the Government it should be chosen over Gatwick

for the location of a new runway. Gatwick has responded saying

an expanded Heathrow will affect hundreds of thousands of people

with noise and pollution. Detectives in the US state

of Minnesota have questioned a doctor who saw the singer Prince

twice in the weeks before he died. A police warrant reveals

Dr Michael Schulenberg prescribed medication to the 57-year-old star

the day before he died last month. It doesn't say what was prescribed,

or whether Prince took the drugs. Join me for BBC

Newsroom Live at 11am. England women's captain

Charlotte Edwards has announced her retirement

from international cricket. In a 20-year England career,

Edwards led her country to the 2009 World Cup and World T20 titles,

also winning four Ashes West Ham say they'll issue life bans

to anyone found responsible for attacking the Manchester United

team bus last night. Bottles and other projectiles

were thrown as the away side The hammers were 3-2 winners

in their final game England manager Roy Hodgson will now

name his Euro 2016 squad on Monday so he can make a better assessment

of players' fitness after the final His final 23 were due

to be revealed tomorrow. England prop, Joe Marler, says

he is seeing a sports psychologist to address his "lack

of professional control". The Harelquins forward,

who was recently punished following an altercation

with Wales forward Samson Lee, received another two week ban

for violent conduct last month. That's your sport for now. Plenty

more on the News Channel throughout the day, Victoria. Thank you very

much. More than 13,000 suspected

and convicted criminals facing charges including

murder, rape and child sex offences are on the run

after skipping court bail. Figures obtained by the BBC

show some police forces in England have over 1,000

outstanding arrest warrants. It means potentially violent

and dangerous criminals Our reporter Craig Lewis put

in the freedom of information What does the information that you

got back show? It shows that it is more than the 13,000 warrants

outstanding and they are for quite serious offences as well. Things

like murders, rapes, child sex offences. So it is not just the

petty crime that you might think it was. Also some of these date back

years and years and years to the 1980s, the oldest goes back to 1980,

that was in West Yorkshire where a police constable was assaulted. So

quite a serious offence there as well. And just to give you an idea

of some of the pressures the police face on this. One of the other cases

that we followed through saw a serial con man from Suffolk, he was

wanted by Essex Police, he absconded to Alicante where he committed more

offences out there and he ended up in a prison in Spain.

We can talk now to Tom Tailford - who was a victim of a crime

for which the man responsible didn't turn up to court.

Malcolm Richardson, the national chair of

Des Keenoy, a former Metropolitan Police Officer.

You had thousands of pounds of camera equipment stolen, how did it

affect you? It affected my business. This man was charged with fraud and

didn't turn up to the court for trial. Correct. How did that make

you feel? Really frustrated. The treatment from the police wasn't

that great through the duration of my ordeal. Yeah, it just added to

the frustration really. Malcolm, the figures show that 13500 court

warrants are still outstanding. What consequences are there if cases like

Tom's are repeated around the country? Well, victims like Tom

don't get justice. That's obviously the first, I would say that's the

most important point, but witnesses who are members of the public who

have no vested interest in the case, but are giving up their time to come

and do their civic duty and come and give evidence aren't able to give

evidence. And that I am sure means that they are less likely, if the

case is relisted, to want to give up more time to come... Because they

lose faith? Absolutely. And everyone knows that all of Government

services, but certainly the court service, is under severe budget

pressures and that means we have less time available in court to hear

matters and if we get all of the resources assembled to deal with the

case then the defendant doesn't show up then we are wasting those

resources. A complete waste of time and taxpayers money. Absolutely. Des

you are a former met police officer. People will be thinking why aren't

the police out there arresting these people on the run? It would be nice

to say they could. There has been a vast reduction in the number of

police officers available on the street in the last few years and

also the neighbourhood policing units that might of had the

availability to go out and pursue their local criminals who have not

turned up to court, they are under great pressure. It is not us saying

this is on the back burner, but basically, the idea of police

officers on patrol, and actively pursuing people in their locality,

other pressures take precedence over that and unfortunately, this maybe

and I can't say it is for certain, this may just be an outcome from all

the cuts we've had. We have lost a vast number of officers and a lot of

the officers we're left with are busy doing other things and directed

elsewhere to more urgent stuff. That's the basic situation. So if

there were more officers, there wouldn't be 13500 people on the run?

I would hope not because in the days when we did this, if there were

outstanding warrants on your beat or in your neighbourhood you would go

out and deal with them. It is a way of getting juniors officers to get

used to arresting people and dealing with them and arresting them and

getting them into the court system. It is likely that somebody arrested

on warrant would not be kept in custody until a court hearing

because the court hearing might take two or three months to set-up and

that's no fault of the officers doing the arresting and they might

be bailed and then abscond again. I'm really sorry, but you have to

look at the resources there and the basic line of resource for the

frontline officers has been cut. I meanks you have got to be pretty

bold not to turn up to court for your trial, but hearing what Des

said about, he is saying it is reduced because of a reduced number

of police officers, you might think well, no one is going to catch me

anyway? I'm not going to think myself into the mind of a defendant

in court, but absolutely, clearly, people could come to that conclusion

and these are orders of court and therefore, they ought to be

implemented. Yes? And if they're not, for whatever reason, whether it

is the reason the for what the police officer said or for other

reasons. The court has a right to know why they are not being

implemented. We have no feedback, we get a defendant in front of us or we

don'tment we don't know why they haven't turned up whether it is

because they have failed to respond or that the warrant has never been

executed. OK, thank you very much, all of you, thank you for coming on

the programme, thank you. Do you know what your Police

and Crime Commissioner does? They've been around since 2012,

if you live in England and Wales you could well have voted them in,

and they earn roughly between ?70,000 to ?100,000

a year, paid for by you, They are elected to ensure police

forces in England and Wales They replaced police authorities,

and are meant to bring The Government insists PCCs are not

there to run local police forces, Last Thursday, 40 PCCs were elected,

and there was a 67% increase in the number of voters

from the last elections in 2012, Today is the last day in the post

for the first batch of Police and Crime Commissioners who haven't

been re-elected, and tomorrow newly So we thought it would be

interesting to see what advice someone who's done the job

would have for someone who's We can speak now to Nick Alston,

Chair of the Association of Police It's his last day today as PCC

for Essex, after he didn't And in Lincoln, we have Marc Jones,

who starts his job as the Police and Crime Commissioner

for Lincolnshire on tomorrow. Well speak to Nick first of all

because we can't get through to Marc right this second. Nick, tell us

what it has been like. It has been a privilege really to do the job. It

has been three-and-a-half years of doing the job. A year of preparing

for it. So four-and-a-half really very busy years. A privilege to do

it because policing is really important. Everybody cares about it

and these are roles which can really make a huge difference so it has

been very busy. I'm not standing again. Largely for family reasons. I

have got my lovely grandchildren. I have had 42 years in full-time work

and these last three years, a real privilege, getting to know the

county, helping improve policing and really understanding what the

communities want from their police. Marc, are you nervous? I think there

is a healthy amount of anticipation, excitement and trepidation really,

but I'm just keen to get going now. Nick, what's the one thing you

perhaps haven't done in your role as a PCC that you would say to Marc

that he has to do? Oh, there are lots of things I'd like to have

done. There are so many important things that have to be done. It is

worth looking at those first. I would say really focus on the

overall plan, what are we trying to achieve, how do we make best use of

the money? Secondly and really importantly, how do the police do

their business? If you look around the country at the moment, look at

the scandal coming out of Northumbria and the problems in

North Yorkshire. How the police do their work is really, really

important and the police and crime commissioner can really shape that

and thirdly, the difficult piece is how do we get Local Government

working differently so we can make our communities safer? Nearly a

quarter of police time in Essex is spent dealing with people with

mental health problems. How do we join up police service and mental

health services and probation? All those things that make a difference

to community safety. So lots to look forward. I think the real challenges

are getting our local communities working and Local Government working

in a much more joined up way. That would be a great thing to achieve.

Marc, it is just worth being clear, you do not run the police force, you

have a Chief Constable to do that, you can sack your Chief Constable,

should you feel it appropriate. Is it just about strategy then and

culture? I don't think it is fair to say it is just about, but that's

obviously a very important part of it. I mean you are working with the

police as well as holding them to account on the way they deliver, but