09/06/2016 Victoria Derbyshire

Hello it's Thursday , it's 9 o'clock, I'm Joanna Gosling,

From Out to In - a senior Conservative MP has changed her mind

Hello it's Thursday , it's 9 o'clock, I'm Joanna Gosling,

on how to vote in the EU referendum, Sarah Woolaston leads the health

committee in Parliament and says that the Leave campaign's claims

Of course I understand that politicians are not allowed

to change their minds but real people do.

More than 1 million people from Commonwealth countries living in the

UK are eligible to vote. Held without charge

for more than 2 months, we'll talk to the husband

of the British Iranian woman who is in prison in Iran -

she is struggling to walk Failing to do enough to protect

against flooding. The Government is told it must do more.

The Government is told it must do more.

Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning.

Our political guru is in Northern Ireland

for us this morning, where two former Prime Ministers - John

Major and Tony Blair - will speak later to say

who backs Leave, has hit back and says their claims

A little later in the programme we'll

here from one man who wants to end his life through euthanasia -

it's legal where he lives in Belgium and he exclusively tells us that

depression connected to his sexuality and attraction

to younger men leave him no option but to end his life.

Do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning -

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Our top story this morning: A senior Conservative MP defects

from the Leave Campaign to join the Remain Camp and an influential

businessman comes out in favour of a Brexit.

With two weeks to go until the once-in-a-generation

referendum on EU membership, both campaigns are intensifying.

Sarah Wollaston, a GP and Conservative member for Totnes

says she was forced to switch sides because of misleading claims

from the Leave Campaign about NHS spending.

Meanwhile the chairman of JCB, Lord Bamford, has written to his UK

employees to explain why he favours a vote to leave the European Union.

He says he's "very confident that we can stand on our own two

Our Political guru Norman Smith is in Northern Ireland.

Norman, how significant is Sarah Wollaston's

She may not be a household name, but she does matter because she is not

your typical Tory. She is not someone who is identified as being

part of one Tory tribe. When she announced a couple of months ago

that she was throwing in her lot with Brexit, everybody went yes! She

is not one of the usual suspects, she is an independent Tory, free

thinking. When I first met her when she was thinking about becoming a

Tory MP, she was in her local GP surgery in a small village in Devon

and the reason she was getting into politics was because she was worried

about alcohol abuse. She is a very different sort of Tory and seen as a

bit of a weather vane. But she now feels, even though a couple of weeks

ago she said she agreed there were issues around immigration and around

the cost of being part of the EU and she did not like Project fear, she

pretty much signed on the dotted line for the Brexit camp, she now

feels the way they have presented their argument saying we had over

350 million quid to the EU is an acceptable. That figure has been

widely challenged and contested by the Treasury Select Committee, by

the National statistics authority, and she now says, if I cannot hand

out their leaflet saying we are paying 350 million quid, can I

really honestly campaign for them? She has on that basis decided to

switch camps. A lot in the Brexit camp are saying what is going on?

Only a couple of weeks ago you agree with us and now you disagree with

our PR strategy. But home move matters because it sends out a

signal that some independent minded MPs are beginning to think more

about their encounter. Lord Bamford has come out in support of Brexit, a

prominent businessman. How much of a boost does that give to the lead

campaign? We have had a succession of big businesses, we had the boss

of Hitachi, Unilever, BMW, British Aerospace, all writing to their

employees saying, do not leave the EU. The Brexit campaign will be

thinking, thank God we have got our own person saying the opposite which

is, relax, we are the fifth biggest country in the world and we can

manage our own affairs. I think they will be very glad to have a riposte

to that sort of succession of big business figures who seem to have

been penning letters to employees saying, be careful if you want to

leave. We will be speaking to Sarah Wollaston later. Let's catch up

The EU referendum could face a legal challenge after the deadline

for voter registration was extended until midnight tonight.

The decision to extend was taken after the official website crashed,

leaving tens of thousands of would-be voters

But now the millionaire and funder of the Leave EU campaign,

Arron Banks, says he's considering seeking

A British tourist, who'd been missing in Vietnam

since last Saturday, has been found dead.

Park rangers discovered the body of 22-year-old Aiden Webb

in Sin Chai village, in the north of the country.

The 22-year-old had set off to climb Vietnam's highest mountain alone.

Health inspectors have condemned a "chaotic" hospital emergency

department which they say is failing to keep patients safe.

The Care Quality Commission found long queues of ambulances outside

the Queen Alexandra Hospital in Portsmouth, while patients

with serious symptoms waited hours to be assessed.

The hospital where there have been serious concerns

Inspectors say the A unit at the Queen Alexandra in Portsmouth

In its report, the Care Quality Commission highlights

It said, in one day, a third of the local ambulance fleet

was forced to queue outside because it was too busy for patients

Inside, emergency patients waited in corridors,

unassessed and unsupervised, and others were forced to wait

The inspection was carried out at the hospital

In one of the worst instances, a patient with a potentially

life-threatening condition waited more than five hours to be assessed.

We have asked the trust to take urgent and swift action to improve

services for patients who come in for emergency care.

This is really action that the trust needs to take,

but they can't do this alone and will have to work

with their partners across the system, across health

and social care, across Portsmouth, to improve services for patients.

The trust says it is working hard to make improvements.

Portsmouth has been in the bottom four trusts in the country

Today, the latest NHS performance figures are published for England.

Last month again they showed record delays for patients.

Sophie Hutchinson, BBC News, Portsmouth.

Four people have been killed and six others wounded after two gunmen

The attack took place in a busy shopping area close

Police say the gunmen were Palestinians,

The two attackers had been sitting in a bar where they got up

and opened fire in this popular Tel Aviv hangout.

Terrified diners rushed from Sarrona Market.

There are families with small children.

Ambulances took the injured away to hospital.

This was one of the deadliest attacks in an upsurge in violence

Tel Aviv security has been heightened.

Israeli police say they have arrested two cousins,

The young men were from Yatta, close to Hebron,

The Israeli Prime Minister was quick to meet officials at the Defence

Afterwards, he went to the scene of the shooting, just nearby.

This is a savage crime of murder and terrorism in the heart of Tel

It was done by criminal terrorists who do not value human life

and are willing to murder innocent citizens who were sitting

In total, more than 30 Israelis have been killed in the recent violence.

About 200 Palestinians have been killed, most of whom,

the Israeli authorities said were carrying out attacks.

In the past few months, the wave of violence has subsided,

but the latest shooting will bring back a sense of anxiety

MPs are accusing the Government of failing to do enough to protect

The Commons Environmental Audit Committee says more money needs

to be spent on maintaining existing flood barriers, as well as

The Department for Environment says it continues to spend record

amounts, with more than ?2 billion set aside to bolster flood defences.

It seems that the government has a reactive approach to flood

defence spending, so cutting it and thinking it will be a painless cut,

and then when flooding hits, reinvesting the money.

That creates inefficiencies, because schemes are

paused, then restarted which is inefficient.

Then, the flood defence assets that are already in place

A replica of the Jules Rimet World Cup trophy,

owned by Brazilian footballing legend Pele, has been

The Brazilian legend won three World Cup medals -

Now he's selling off around 2,000 items

The buyer of the famous cup has asked to remain anonymous.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News, more at 9.30.

Do get in touch with us throughout the morning.

We are talking about the defection of Sarah Wollaston, the Conservative

MP on the EU referendum. She did want out, but now she wants to

remain. Here's some sport now with Jess

and the fall of Maria Sharapova. There's been strong reaction

to Maria Sharapova and her two-year She says she's going

to appeal the decision by the International Tennis

Federation. It's caused a lot of

discussion on social media. Tennis great Martina

Nav-ratilova tweeted: Yikes! It will be hard to

come back from this. And British player Heather Watson

has questioned whether Our tennis correspondent

Russell Fuller joins me, is this the end for Sharapova

after so long at the top Russell? She won Wimbledon as a 17-year-old

in 2004, and if her appeal is not successful, then the next grand slam

she will be able to play will be the French open in 2018 when she will be

31. For her, if unsuccessful when she challenges the verdict, to make

a return to the top level of the game is quite hard to imagine. She

has also had a history of injuries as well. But she will still believe

she can get this ban reduced. The damning verdict from the

International tennis Federation hearing will take some overturning.

But there is precedent for these bans to be cut. Victor Trotsky and

Marin Cilic in the last few years have had a four and six months taken

of their bans. That is the final step. Whatever the Court of

Arbitration in sport this site is binding. Do you think it is

surprising that her sponsors have decided to stay with her? They have

made a very big decision very quickly. Head have been incredibly

pro-Sharapova and they have very much taken the fight about whether

meldonium should be performing enhancing substance at all into the

public domain. They have been challenging the world doping agency,

saying their process is flawed. Nike distance themselves at the press

conference, but they now say she has not taken it intentionally and they

will stick by her. This is a very dangerous area for them. Yes, the

panel did decide that she had not deliberately taking a banned

substance and she was not aware it was on the banned list. But at the

same time they're very clearly said in their summit up that they can

only come to the conclusion that she took meldonium for the purpose of

enhancing her performance. Will this have any effect on her standing in

the tour, with the players? Will they look at her differently? Yes,

in never inevitably they will. She is not a popular player. She does

not make friends on tour and she keeps her private life and business

life separate. And that will count against her to start with. The other

issue is whether you think it is right to be able to take anything

that is performance enhancing. Where do you draw the line? Players do it,

players go into chambers to get hundred percent oxygen in their

bodies after matches. Others may say training at altitude is pushing it

too far. It comes down to what we think is acceptable and what we

think is morally dubious. On to cricket, and while England's

men prepare to face Sri Lanka at Lords today,

in the 3rd and final test, the wicketkeeper for the women's

team, Sarah Taylor, says she wants to shine a light on the issue

of mental health after admitting she suffers

from debilitating panic attacks. Taylor has made her name

as one of the world's best female cricketers,

but has had to walk away From my point of view, I don't want

any stigma attached to what I call a mental injury. Strategies are in

place to deal with this as there would be any physical injury. The

fact you know people are going through the same thing, it is OK and

it is normal, that has been the biggest insight for me and this is a

journey for me, but I want it to be learning for other people that it's

OK to go through something like this,

journey for me, but I want it to be learning

OK to go through something like this, but it's not OK to suffer in

silence. We wish her all the best in her recovery. Actor you, Joanna.

So both campaigns in the EU referendum have been boosted this

morning by their new recruits - the senior Conservative MP

Sarah Woolaston moving from Leave to Remain,

and the leading businessman Lord Bamford from JCB coming out

Exactly two weeks away from the referendum,

emotions on both sides of the battle are running higher than ever.

One of Margaret Thatcher's ministers John Nott

is reported to have suspended his membership of the Tory Party

in disgust at the way the prime minister has run the campaign.

Why? Listening to all the arguments during the course of the campaign

and because I chaired the health authority, people have been asking

me if the NHS will be better or worse off if we remain or leave the

EU. I have come to feel strongly, we are better off staying within the

EU. A lot of people watching this will have received their postal vote

and found themselves what is it going to feel like on the 24th of

June if I wake up and we have voted to leave. I realised in my case, it

wouldn't be a case of freedom or liberation, it would be a sense we

had lost something. I think it was important to be honest about that

decision and explain. You don't like the ?350 million figure that has

been touted by the leader-macro campaign? That is not true. I have

been telling voters leave this from the start. Right from the very

beginning I have said they should describe it as a gross figure and

they shouldn't be implying there would be an extra 350 million a week

particularly to go to the NHS if we leave, because it doesn't take

account of the rebate or the money that flows back from Europe in the

other direction. And from somebody who has campaigned ever since I

arrived in Parliament about honesty and data, I couldn't step on board a

battle bus lowing it had a misleading figure at the heart of

its campaign. The public deserve better from both sides. Has it been

a dishonest campaign? There is an attitude that the ends justifies the

means and it gets people talking about the figure. It is a big

figure, even if you use the true, net figure. But the public deserves

an honest articulation of the figures. The Remain company better?

No, I think the public deserve better information. That has been

the greatest, single core to me when I have been speaking to people, they

don't know who to believe. They want to have an honest and open data and

I don't think they have had enough of that. How would you describe this

campaign, this voter we are being told is the most important vote in a

generation. You are saying people are being told to make up their

minds on the basis of flawed evidence on both sides? On my

website, I have put links to the House of Commons live, and other

sources people can find balanced and background information. It is also a

hearts and minds debate. People have a variety of different things

pulling them. As the campaign crystallises, it seems to me into an

argument about the economy and immigration, I think the tone of

some of the commentary around immigration has been upsetting. One

thing that has upset me is the number of my constituents who are

from the EU who have been telling me how it feels to be on the end of

those comments. So has it been a floor debate on but basis, and what

do we take from whatever the result is? People wanted better quality

information and they should have had it from the start. A politician's

job is to be honest and clear about the data, but respect the result. I

would like to see politicians coming together to say they will promise

they will respect the decision. You are coming out late and putting this

out there, do you not have a duty to do this earlier. I have been doing

this from the start. But you didn't actually come out at the start and

say what you are saying now? Many factors have led to this decision.

Like a lot of people I feel the EU is an imperfect institution and

there were many things about the negotiation that disappointed me.

There are important issues to do with sovereignty. As the campaign

has gone on, listen to the weight of evidence, I have to ask myself,

particularly as a doctor and who chairs the committee, is our health

and health care system and the NHS going to be better off or worse if

we leave. I think we will be worse off outside the EU. David has

treated, we should respect all views, even if they change at the

11th hour, Cameron has done it. Another tweet has said, but he has

gone, this move will get her kicked out at the next election. Gavin has

said, she was never for out. Plan damage control from David Cameron.

Have you been lobbied by the remain side? Absolutely not. I explained my

position to colleagues on both sides over the last couple of days. You

have you spoken to? I have never sought a post or been offered one,

that is completely not true. I have spoken to people on both sides, I

have listened to the views of my constituents. I am only one vote out

of many millions. You are a big prize for the Remain camp. Once you

make a decision, it is right you explain it. I haven't been taking a

prominent role in campaigning for either side. I think because what I

would like to see is much clearer evidence presented to people to help

them make up their minds. The job of politicians is to make sure that

whatever the British people decide, we worked together constructively to

make it happen. That is our key role in this. Have you spoken to David

Cameron? I have, as a courtesy. I have spoken to Michael Gove and told

my colleagues and my senior colleagues I have changed my mind

and why. When did you speak to David Cameron? The day before yesterday,

to let him know I was going to change and I spoke to Michael Gove

yesterday. What did they say to you? They are private conversations, but

there is no question, I have neither sought all been offered a post. It

would be hugely disrespectful to people, to have anything that could

imply that. Being a select committee chair is one of the best jobs in

politics. Was David Cameron pleased to hear from you? I think, of

course. Everyone campaigning for Remain is please. People are

critical of politicians when they change their minds, but I think

people are fed up of politicians who are incapable of changing their

minds and don't listen to the arguments. Don't people have the

right to expect their politicians, before we get to the end stages of a

campaign as important as this one, to have listened to the fax and wake

them up sooner and be able to trust everything they hear from the

politicians at every stage? It is and -- and immensely complicated

decision. Many people are in the same decision. Many people have said

to me, I have got my postal vote and I don't know which box to put Mike

Ross into. People will be walking into the polling booths still

uncertain about which way to go. My plea is from both camps, we have

clear, honest data for people to help them make up their mind. Do you

think they have got it now? I am afraid they don't. Ultimately,...

People are making up their minds on false information? They deserve

better from both official campaigns. There are other sites they can get

the information. It is not just about the factual information, it is

a hearts and minds decision. It is a difficult decision. It is right

people take it seriously and many other people will find they started

in one place, then listening to the arguments, they find they are in a

different position at the end of it. That is what democracy is about,

that we have an important national debate. One thing I will say, if we

do vote to remain, what we have to do is reset our relationship with

Brussels. What hope of their is that once the vote has been had? In the

way we connect with our European politicians. I used to go to public

meetings and nobody could name a single MEP, certainly not their own

local MEP. Can they now? People are now thinking about the EU and if we

remain, engage with them. Will other MPs do what you have done, have you

spoken to any? Of course, but it is for them to make their decision. How

many? Have you spoken to many MPs who are thinking there public

position doesn't reflect their private position? I know there are

some MPs who will publicly state their position in the next few days.

It is up to them to make their points other than me to say it on

their behalf. It sounds staged managed? No, but many of my

colleagues are very surprised. Another trigger for me, my father

has just had a triple bypass, he is 81, he started working as a

clearance diver during the war. He was pleading with me all the way up

to the operating theatre doors to change my mind. A lot of us do take

very seriously, the views of our families and our colleagues. My

entire team, both in London and the constituency are voting to remain.

My son, a scientist is voting to remain. All these views and the

views of your constituents, built up over a campaign. If you are not

prepared to say, actually I am in a different place now, you shouldn't

be doing the job as a politician. Thank you for joining us. Let us

know what you think on that and everything else we are talking about

this morning. The British Iranian woman held

for more than two months we'll talk to her husband

about his fears for her health. And why Ed Sheeran is being sued

for $20 million over his hit Now a summary of today's news

from the BBC Newsroom. The Conservative MP,

Sarah Wollaston, who chairs the Commons Health Committee,

has switched to the Remain camp. The defection is in protest

against what she sees as "untrue" Leave claims about increases in NHS

spending in the event of a Brexit. The Tory MP, John Redwood,

who wants Britain to leave the EU, insists that money would be freed up

for the health service. The EU referendum could face a legal

challenge after the deadline for voter registration was extended

until midnight tonight. The decision to extend was taken

after the official website crashed, leaving tens of thousands

of would-be voters But now the millionaire and funder

of the Leave EU campaign, Arron Banks, says he's

considering seeking A British tourist who'd been missing

in Vietnam since last Saturday, Park rangers discovered the body

of 22-year-old Aiden Webb in Sin Chai village,

in the north of the country. The 22-year-old had set off to climb

Vietnam's highest mountain alone. MPs are accusing the government

of failing to do enough to protect The Commons Environmental Audit

Committee says more money needs to be spent on maintaining existing

flood barriers, as well as The Department for Environment says

it continues to spend record amounts, with more than ?2 billion

set aside to bolster flood defences. It seems that the government has

a reactive approach to flood defence spending, so cutting it and

thinking it will be a painless cut, and then when flooding hits,

reinvesting the money. That creates inefficiencies,

because schemes are paused, then restarted

which is inefficient. Then, the flood defence assets that

are already in place Health inspectors have condemned

a "chaotic" hospital emergency department which they say is failing

to keep patients safe. The Care Quality Commission found

long queues of ambulances outside the Queen Alexandra Hospital

in Portsmouth, while patients with serious symptoms waited

hours to be assessed. The hospital's trust says it's

working to make improvements. That's a summary of the latest BBC

News, we'll have more at 10.00. Maria Sharapova will appear her ban

for using a prohibited drug. England cricketer Sarah Taylor wants to

shine a light on mental health issues after revealing she suffers

from debilitating panic attacks which caused her to take a break

from the spot. Marcus Ratchford says his rise from Manchester United

debut to England striker does not seem real. The 18-year-old says he

was not even thinking about an international call-up. He played

senior football for the first time in February. Join us at ten when we

will have news of England's test against Australia.

We have had lots of reaction from you. Madge says, engineered or what?

Are there no depths that a politician would stoop to. The JCB

boss has come out in favour of Brexit and you have hardly mentioned

him. The nasty party are in disarray, so no wonder they have

members who do not know whether they are coming or going. Who is she and

who cares? Gordon has e-mailed and said part of the money could be used

to support the NHS. What a sad woman who changed her mind. Roy says, to

campaign to leave and then pulled this stunt is reprehensible. Gordon

says this was nothing more than a premeditated attempt to undermine

the Leave Campaign. She never intended to want to leave the EU and

should be ashamed of herself. Keep your thoughts coming in on that and

everything else we are talking about. Meanwhile, on the EU

referendum that voter registration has been extended until midnight the

night because of those technical issues ahead of the deadline

expiring. The lead campaign are saying that is on the cusp of

legality. And also more than a million people who are not British

citizens could have a say in the result. People from Commonwealth

countries living here are eligible to cast a ballot in the referendum,

even though they may only be We can speak to some of them now.

With result expected to be tight, every element of the voting will be

scrutinised. You will get a say, even though you are not British

citizens. I know you want to leave the EU, but would you say it is fair

to claim that Commonwealth voters will be voting with one voice? It is

fair because the Commonwealth has put a history with this country and

we have got a history of contribution from the Commonwealth

countries which has always been undervalued because of the European

Union. We never look at the Commonwealth. Commonwealth people

have fought for this moniker, laid their lives down for this country.

My father fought in the Second World War and was a Commonwealth citizen.

40,000 people have signed a petition to Parliament arguing that allowing

Commonwealth citizens to vote goodbye as the result and are

claiming that Commonwealth citizens will vote as a block. Commonwealth

citizens not living here? Commonwealth citizens living here.

They have got a right to vote. What do you think, Kylie? I think we

should be voting, we live here, we pay taxes, we contribute to society.

We have a long-standing history with England, so I do not see the

problem. You have not exercised your right to vote previously. You have

been here for six years and you could have voted in any election,

but you have not, but you want to vote for this but in my I feel quite

passionate for this. I want to remain. This will spur me to go

through the process of registering so I can have my say. Why do you

feel so strongly? We are all international citizens and I think

England and London is the best city in the world because of the rich

tapestry of culture and customs that make it up. I think leaving the EU

would be a very sad thing. Gary, you think we should leave, why is that?

We can never find out what is happening to the ?18 billion that we

pay to Brussels. I have lived here since 1985. I pay my taxes, I still

work hard. We never seem to be getting anything back. OK, I have

not made the decision to become a British citizen yet, but I have

still got the right to live here. On that point, why do you feel more

passionately about having a say in the referendum and the future

direction of this country than actually becoming a British citizen?

Well, it is a piece of paperwork really. I am from Canada, my heart

is in Canada even though I have lived here and worked here for the

better part of my working life. I feel some people are not actually

seeing what is really happening. I feel that there should be some

movement. The money that is going to Brussels and we do not know how much

we get back because the accounts are never signed off, if that money was

given to the 400 odd parishes and councils to help replenish housing

stock, to redevelop rural areas like where I live in Somerset, we need

some serious funding. With the funding being cut from central

Government, if that money was kicking around, it could help a lot

of people. Brad, you are astray on and on a spousal Visa. You are

voting, defend your right to vote. I pay taxes. One of the first things I

did when I got here was to register to vote. I come from a country where

it is compulsory to vote. Brits cannot vote in Australia. No, there

they cannot and there are huge inequities in the system. I would

like to vote leave out of spite because even though I am a member of

the Commonwealth, I do not have the same rights as a citizen of the EU

and that needs to be addressed. But in a longer term view, the thing

that is in the best interest of my children is to remain. Why do you

think that? Because I think what Europe brings to the UK is culture,

diversity, a different way of thinking, and I think United we can

help shape Europe into the potential that it has. If we remain on the

outside and all we do is pick and moan about what they do in Europe,

we will be ineffective. What do you think about the campaign? Have you

been able to make up your minds on solid fats? Sarah Wollaston earlier

has defected because she says she does not feel people have had the

chance to hear that the facts from politicians. What she said was like

a political stunt. In terms of whether you feel as a voter... What

I feel is I have been affected by Europe, I have been badly affected

by Europe, my housing is badly affected by Europe. Where I live in

a small village in Kent there was a three GP surgery for about ten years

and we have got 20,000 more people in this town and we have still got

three in the surgery. My question is if we cannot accommodate all this

influx of immigration, if you invite people to work here, how's them

properly. I want my kids to be in education... Immigration is the key

factor for you we have got millions of overcrowding. I want a handful of

chefs to work in this country, they have loved the Government for the

last 11 years, but we have got thousands of people coming from

Europe no problem. They have got no skill, but they want to be employed

in my business. How can I employ them in my business when they have

no skill? It is the fact that European people

have more rights? Australia has a system. Hold on two seconds. That is

a valid point, but voting to leave on that basis is like trying to

crack one with a sledgehammer. What we have is clearly a problem and

what we need is reform. For a small island we cannot accommodate

millions of people from everywhere. Our kids have to have a future.

Leaving Europe is the best for our kids. Gary, you were going to make a

point. It is the open borders system at the moment. If we leave the EU,

we can then control our own borders and we can control who comes into

the country. The Australian points system works perfectly for them and

I do not see why it could not be brought into the UK. I agree with

what you are saying and it is frustrating as the Commonwealth

citizen to have such strict sanctions, but I do not believe

leaving the EU will change that. Migration brings so much more

benefit than it detracts. From an economic perspective migrants

contribute more to taxes than they take away. I do not believe leaving

is the answer. Thank you all very much. Let us hear your thoughts on

Let us hear your thoughts on that as well.

Coming up, we will be talking to a man who struggle with his sexuality

means he You may remember that a few weeks

ago we spoke to Richard Ratcliffe, his wife is being held

without charge in prison in Iran. British Iranian Nazanin

Zaghari-Ratcliffe was returning home after visiting relatives

when she was detained more The couple have now spoken

on the phone three times and Richard has learned that his wife has

struggled to walk, frequently blacks Mrs Zaghari-Ratcliffe was travelling

with the couple's young daughter who is still with her grandparents

in Iran and has her second birthday There are thought to be

four British-Iranian Let's talk to Nazanin's

husband Richard Ratcliffe. We're also joined by Kamran Foroughi

whose father Kamal has been in prison in Iran

for more than five years. Richard, we met before. Your wife

had been held for a month at that stage and was in solitary

confinement. You have been able to speak to her. Firstly, I was able to

speak to her briefly and learn about the conditions she was in. She was

in solitary for 45 days and then came out of that. When she was in a

group set up I could speak to her for a couple of conversations. When

she came out, she was very weak and she was struggling to be able to

walk without blacking out and it took a few days of walking every

morning, exercise, to get her strength up. Since I revealed that,

I have had a petition which I have put updates on. Since I revealed the

conditions, she has been stopped from speaking to me and she has been

transferred again. She is no longer speaking to her family either. How

do you know she has been stopped? I cannot speak to her at all. She was

not able to call me. She has not been able to speak to her family

since Sunday, three days now. The last call she had on that Sunday she

said she thought she was going to be released and now it has all gone

quiet, so I am quite worried as to where she is at the moment. Tell us

more about the transfer you believe has happened. I do not know anything

at all. The previous pattern was that every day she was allowed to

call. She said on the last day, I am going to be released. Every day she

was talking to their parents? Yes, and that has stopped. That is either

a good sign or a bad sign. It is not clear at all what is happening. When

she was in isolation could she have contact with her parents? When she

was in solitary confinement, she would be taken out for interrogation

and at the end of the day when she had cooperated, she could make a

telephone call. When she came out and went into a joint cell, she was

able to call every day and she would queue up like the other prisoners

and after a couple of hours she would be able to speak. How

concerned are you now? Very worried. There is a lot of misinformation,

but her family are terrified. You have those three conversations

with her, are you any clearer about why she is being held? She wouldn't

talk at all about the case. The role she had to observe is she wasn't

allowed to discuss it. There are still no formal charges and she

still hasn't had access to a lawyer, to my best knowledge. So, still no

clearer. Who is she able to have contact with, is she being seen by

any medical staff? Past few days, no contact with anyone. To my best

knowledge, she had one family visit three weeks ago where she was taken

out of solitary confinement and met in a hotel with her family. Has she

seen a doctor, because it sounds quite serious health issues? She

told me over the phone, that is how I know that. I am not sure she has

seen a doctor. Cameron, you have an understanding of what Richard is

going through because your father has been held in Iran for several

years now. He has been held since 2011 and was sentenced to eight

years in prison for spying. Is there any justification for him being

imprisoned? No, we thought it was a big mistake from the beginning.

Total shock when my father was taken in five years, one month ago. There

has never been any evidence or explanation provided by the Iranian

authorities. They have never publicly said anything about my

father, zero paperwork. They have never mentioned his name in any

correspondence. They have admitted privately to others and the Foreign

Office they are holding him and that has basically been about it. Have

you had much contact with him? Richard's story is bringing back the

terrible memories. We had over three years of no contact. You have to

bear in mind, my dad's family live over here, my step mother, his wife,

two children, my sister and my two daughters all live in or near

London. We haven't seen him for over five years now. Non-others feel

confident to go back. We had three years from no contact with him

whatsoever. He was occasionally, perhaps once every month or so,

allowed to call a friend in Teheran, who would then call my stepmother to

reassure us. There was a six-month period where it all went completely

quiet. There have been a number of difficult periods we have had to

live through. That was probably one of the worst. Also, when the news

broke about the so-called trial in 2013, it was a total shock to all of

us. We were fooled by the lack of news before, my father was in charge

with anything for a year. He was then told he was charged, but wasn't

told what he was charged with. Natural justice, surely even with a

trial, they would realise there was a big mistake. That was the biggest

challenge in 2013. Are you two being a support for each other through

this? It has been good for me to have met him. What have you said to

Richard, what he could do differently, if anything? It is

always a matter of immediate family, we kept quiet about this for over

four years. That was on the advice from the Foreign Office? It was

initially on the advice of the Iranian side of family and friends.

The time my dad was taken and the news of his trial there was a

difficult political atmosphere between Iran, Greg written and many

other countries. It was old-style politics. We were told if the

Foreign Office gets involved it could be used as evidence against

him. At the time, there was no diplomatic contact between the UK

and around, it had been broken off after the British Embassy in Tehran

was stormed in 2011. It didn't seem getting the UK involved was

necessarily going to help. It is impossible, you are guessing. There

is no rule book, it is absolute guesswork. I approached the Foreign

Office soon after we heard about this trial. I was in total shock.

Totally stunned. We are all living in shock, every morning you wake up

and you cannot believe it has happened to your family. It makes no

sense. That is how you feel, Richard? It has been a crazy

experience. In terms of what to do, we have been doing lots of different

campaigning. I don't know if it works or not. Are you getting much

help from the Foreign Office? They have been a bit quiet recently,

which may mean they are working on something. I wouldn't be critical of

that. Certainly, going public was to try and raise the political profile

and get the government to do what it can. Do you think it was right to go

public? You cannot tell. When we went public she was brought out of

solitary confinement and she had a family visit. So that was important.

We will see what this next step means. In my guts, it felt like

keeping quiet wasn't doing anything. There is no way of knowing what the

right thing to do is. As things stand, you don't know if she has

been moved, you think she has. There is no contact for now, what is your

next move? Would you go to Iran? You said before you weren't sure whether

you would? Not at the moment, until it is clear what is happening. The

campaign is more affected with me here. The more I campaign, the more

dangerous it is to go. Your daughter, is soon to be two? We will

be celebrating at the weekend and we will have a party. That's right, at

some point I need to find a way to bring her home. Bring them both home

together. Will you be able to bring her home, cut her grandparents bring

her home? At the moment her passport is with the Iranian authorities. The

technical problem of getting every user to go over there. Under Iranian

law only her mother or father could travel with her. It is not simple

and also there is a risk of me being detained as well. Take it day by

day. And that is all you can do? We have been doing that from the start.

You try your best every day. What was the last contact you have with

your father? Since the summer of 2014, emotionally, things are

easier. We have had almost daily calls. I get the calls once a week

on a Sunday morning. My daughters and I get to speak to grandpa Kamal.

At one point we were told the conversations had to be in Iranian

and we didn't speak it. I used to speak it when I was very young, now

I need to keep it up. We lived in London and my dad was travelling, so

we forgot it. I think he's very proud now that my daughters have

learned about ten to 15 words, which they speak to him. He does speak

perfect English. It has been a real pleasure to have the contact again.

He is 76, how is the coping? He is the sort of person puts on brave

face about things and never complains. They talk about... They

are not allowed to talk about conditions all the calls. . So they

never talk about conditions. You hear things like your father is

going to be released in the next week. We have had our hopes raised

and then lowered so many times. So then you will speak to him and he

sounds down and depressed. He has had a medical a few weeks ago and he

is pleased about that. That has been a positive step. Richard, finally,

you described the impact on Nazanin physically, were you able to gauge

her mental state? That is the hardest thing. I think this point

she will do anything she can to get out. She said it is the hardest

thing she has ever been through and wants to get back. Thank you both

very much. Lots of you getting in touch on the defection of the

Conservative MP from the Leave to the Remain. Stuart has said, giving

her publicity. Richard has treated, she convinces no one. Someone has

said what a great lady she is, how fair and honest. Christopher has

e-mailed, what has changed her principled objections to remaining

in that must have underpinned her support for vote Leave. Louise has

e-mailed, another MP feathering her nest, strange and smiling. It is a

fix and she has betrayed her Brexit colleagues. What a loser. An e-mail

from John, a career politician too interested in her own political

advance and is. Gordon has e-mailed has she been upset by the spinning

of ?350 million? Amanda has treated, respect to Sarah Wollaston, it is

not a crime to change your mind. Keep your thoughts coming in.

What have you got for us today? On Tuesday we had flooding across

Brighton and southern England. Look at these victors from Birmingham

sent in by the viewer. Roads turning to rivers. I don't know if you

managed to dodge the downpours in London? No, completely drenched.

This was this morning, shows the other side of mother nature,

beautiful start to the day, they clip showing the sunrise. Red sky in

the morning, Shepherd's warning. Weather-wise, we are looking at a

fine start for some but others are starting with extensive cloud and

mist and fog patches. The cloud is beginning to break up and we're

starting to see the sunshine burned through. When the sunshine has come

out it will feel pleasantly warm. But you can see the extensive cloud

we did have. The sky running down the eastern side will be slow to

break up. So another few hours before the sun comes out here. Misty

Anne Burkett weather across a good part of Northern Ireland, so another

area slow to brighten up. Most of us will see some sunshine, but we will

see scattered showers around. This time the showers are more likely to

be across more northern part of the country, particularly over high

ground. Central, Northern Wales, showers over the hills, maybe if you

are the ones for the Cumbrian fells will stop over the Pennines,

Southern uplands and the high ground in Scotland, we could cease showers

but probably not too many through the belt. Where we do see the

sunshine it will feel pleasantly warm. Temperatures between 22 and 24

Celsius. We will see some change in the weather forecast over the next

24 hours or so. Overnight, quite a bit of cloud. Showers fade away, but

during the second part of the night, outbreaks of rain working into the

south-west of England. That is the first sign of a change in the

weather on the way. Temperatures in Manchester, falling no lower than 17

degrees. We have a bit of cloud tomorrow, areas of rain pushing

northwards and eastwards. Showery burst in the afternoon and probably

staying dry towards the south-east. Temperatures coming down a little

bit closer to normal for the time of year. Highs reaching 22 degrees.

That is your weather. Hello, I'm Joanna Gosling

in for for Victoria Derbyshire. Welcome to the programme

if you've just joined us. Two former Prime Ministers

will say leaving the EU together to back Remain

but the Northern Ireland Secretary, who backs leave, has hit

back saying their claims We speak to a man whose struggle

with his sexuality has left him feeling like he has no other option

than to end his life. And close to the summit of Everest,

Leslie Binns abandoned his climb We'll hear from him and from

the woman whose life he saved. Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

with a summary of today's news. The Conservative MP,

Sarah Wollaston, who chairs the Commons Health Committee,

has switched to the Remain camp. The defection is in protest

against what she sees as "untrue" Leave claims about increases in NHS

spending in the event of a Brexit. The Tory MP, John Redwood,

who wants Britain to leave the EU, insists that money would be freed up

for the health service. The EU referendum could face a legal

challenge after the deadline for voter registration was extended

until midnight tonight. The decision to extend was taken

after the official website crashed, leaving tens of thousands

of would-be voters But now the millionaire and funder

of the Leave EU campaign, Arron Banks, says he's

considering seeking A British tourist who'd been missing

in Vietnam since last Saturday, Park rangers discovered the body

of 22-year-old Aiden Webb in Sin Chai village,

in the north of the country. The 22-year-old had set off to climb

Vietnam's highest mountain alone. MPs are accusing the government

of failing to do enough to protect The Commons Environmental Audit

Committee says more money needs to be spent on maintaining existing

flood barriers, as well as The Department for Environment says

it continues to spend record amounts, with more than ?2 billion

set aside to bolster flood defences. It seems that the government has

a reactive approach to flood defence spending, so cutting it and

thinking it will be a painless cut, and then when flooding hits,

reinvesting the money. That creates inefficiencies,

because schemes are paused, then restarted

which is inefficient. Then, the flood defence assets that

are already in place Four people have been killed,

and six others wounded after two The attacks took place

at a popular open-air shopping area in the city centre,

close to Israel's defence ministry Police say the gunmen

were from a Palestinian village Health inspectors have condemned

a "chaotic" hospital emergency department which they say is failing

to keep patients safe. The Care Quality Commission found

long queues of ambulances outside the Queen Alexandra Hospital

in Portsmouth, while patients with serious symptoms waited

hours to be assessed. The hospital's trust says it's

working to make improvements. A replica of the Jules

Rimet World Cup trophy, owned by Brazilian footballing

legend Pele, has been The Brazilian legend won

three World Cup medals - Now he's selling off

around 2,000 items The buyer of the famous cup has

asked to remain anonymous. That's a summary of the latest BBC

News, more at 10.30. Coming up: Does the Government

failed to do enough to protect people's lives and businesses before

they are hit by flooding. We will talk to one MP who think so. And Ed

shearer is being sued for $20 million. We will have the latest on

Do get in touch with us throughout the morning.

Maria Sharapova will appeal her two-year ban from tennis

The five-time Grand Slam winner says the judgement by

the International Tennis Federation was "unfairly harsh".

Her sponsors have decided to continue to support her. The next

grand slam she will be able to play in will be at the age of 31 at the

French Open in 2018. For her, if unsuccessful when she challenges the

verdict, to make a return to the top level of the game is hard to

imagine. She has also had a history of injuries. But she will still

believe that she can get this ban reduced. The damning verdict from

the International tennis Federation's independent hearing

will take some overturning. England cricketer Sarah Taylor wants

to shine a light on mental health issues after revealing she suffers

from debilitating panic attacks, that have caused her to take

an indefinite break from the sport. She had made her name as one of the

world's Best female cricketers. From my point of view I do not want any

stigma attached from any anxiety, depression, mental health or, I call

it a mental injury, because the same strategies are in place to deal with

this as they would be for any physical injury. The fact you know

other people are going through the same thing and it is OK and normal,

that has been the biggest insight for me and it is a journey for me. I

want it to be a learning for other people that it is OK to go through

something like this, but it is not OK to suffer in silence. A big test

for the England team who begin their test against Australia on Saturday.

The team thrashed them at the World Cup in October. Our reporter is in

Brisbane. The England squad will be announced in the next few minutes.

Any surprises? There are some interesting calls as expected by the

coach Eddie Jones. At fly-half he has gone in for Owen Farrell and

George Ford has been left out. Luther Burrell gets the nod in the

number 12 shirt. A really big call on the wing where Jack Nowell has

been left out with Marlin Yard starting. Apart from that, their

pack is as expected, the same starting forward pack that played

against France in March. Rob Shaw, Haskel and Billy Vunipola are in the

back three. The England camp are being quite candid and saying this

match is a must win match. Thank you for the update. Back to you.

Our top story this morning - a senior Conservative MP defects

from the Leave Campaign to join the Remain Camp and an influential

businessman comes out in favour of a Brexit.

With two weeks to go until the once in a generation

referendum on EU membership - both campaigns are intensifying.

Sarah Wollaston, a GP and Conservative member for Totnes

says she was forced to switch sides because of misleading

claims from the Leave campaign about NHS spending.

Meanwhile the chairman of JCB, Lord Bamford has written to his UK

employees to explain why he favours a vote to leave the European Union.

He says he's "very confident that we can stand on our

Let's go to Norman Smith. How important are these interventions?

They matter because Sarah Wollaston is one of those MPs who is regarded

as not a typical Tory. She tends to make her own mind up, she is not

part of any particular Tory tribe, so when she threw in her lot with

the Brexit Brigade they were delighted. She is somebody who is

not associated with one of the usual suspects and she was on their team.

She seemed to sign up to all their basic arguments around sovereignty,

immigration, the cost of the EU. Now, however, she said she has

concerns. She is worried this argument which the Brexit brigade

are making that we send ?350 million a week to the EU, that is not true.

She says she cannot go out and campaign for them if she is having

to put out leaflets which she does not believe in. As for the JCB bass

writing saying, we can do fine outside the EU, I think relief on

the Brexit side. We have had a whole series of big business figures like

Hitachi, Unilever, British Aerospace, all going the other way

and writing to their employees and saying we have to be careful about

leaving the EU. Relief for the Brexit Brigade on that side and

disappointment on the other side. Meanwhile, this morning my colleague

Eleanor Ghani has been to the Leave Campaign team in London. We are in

Wembley at a Hindu temple where Priti Patel has been invited to come

along. I can ask personal questions. Sarah Wollaston, one of the

Conservative MPs who had been campaigning to leave the EU, is no

switching sides. That is hugely damaging for your side of the

campaign. I do not think it is. Sarah has a range of views and

opinions as a member of Parliament, but about the 350, we have been

crystal clear that that is the gross figure and that is money, that is UK

tax payers' money that is given to the European Union, it is money that

goes over to the EU which we have no control over. We have been making

the point during this campaign that we want to take back control of our

money and make sure it is spent on priorities, local priorities like

the NHS, education and our public services. It is not just the figures

she disagrees with, she said it is false, but there are other reasons

she wants now to stake in the EU. It is embarrassing for your campaign.

On the contrary, everyone has their own views and Sarah is entitled to

make up her own mind like the public. But the vote in this

referendum is about taking back control from the European Union,

from the institutions, controlling our borders, controlling immigration

and standing up for the United Kingdom, rather than being dictated

to by the institutions of the European Union and these are

fundamental issues that this referendum is about. We have got

Tony Blair and so John Major raising constitutional questions in Northern

Ireland about if we voted to leave the European Union are dangers that

would be for the peace process in Northern Ireland and wider

constitutional questions. That is a big thing for you to answer. Theresa

Villiers, the Secretary for Northern Ireland, has been clear that the

peace process in Northern Ireland is rock solid. I do not think the

assumption is that the former prime ministers are making our right ones.

Theresa Villiers has worked incredibly hard as Secretary of

State to ensure that. She is saying it is very solid and it is the wrong

assumption to make. If we voted to leave, we would have to put up

borders and they would have to be customs controls between the

Republic and Northern Ireland, so what would happen? Nothing would

change. Northern Ireland and the whole of the United Kingdom would be

stronger and more prosperous outside of the EU because we would be in

control of our decision-making, our borders and our finances as well.

That's my colleague talking to Priti Patel. I am in Northern Ireland this

morning for that joint speech with John Major and Tony Blair. There is

a slightly odd couple feel to it. It will be interesting to see what

happens there. Well we can talk now to the former

head of the British Chambers of Commerce John Longworth,

who's been busy campaigning He left his post after coming out

in favour of Brexit Thank you for joining us. Lord

Bamford has written to his employees in the UK to say why he favours a

bow to leave the European Union, is that a boost for your side? It is

great that he has chosen to do this as an individual. We have got over

500 entrepreneurs and business owners sign up who are supporting

the Leave Campaign and they are doing it as individuals. We are not

doing what the Remain Campaign is doing, which is writing to employees

and intimidating them and suggesting it would be bad for their jobs if

they do not remain. Do the businesses compete with the likes of

the business is coming out on the side of staying? BMW, BAE Systems, a

lengthy list of some of the biggest businesses in the country. There is

a whole bunch of businesses supporting our campaign, both large

and small. The biggest survey showed that the business opinions shifted

to our side. The British Chambers of commerce did a survey that looked at

businesses that exported only outside the European Union and those

only in the UK. The majority of those want to leave the European

Union and they make up 87% of the economy and 94% of businesses. The

British Chambers of commerce statistics say 54% of members

overall would vote remain, it is down from a previous figure which

was higher, but the British Chambers of commerce' point is it tends to be

the smaller firms with fewer than ten staff who are in favour Brexit.

There is a whole mix of visitors who voted to leave. The fact the survey

overall had a majority to remain is because it had a much higher

proportion of businesses who export to Europe in the survey done in the

economy as a whole. The business standing up for the Prime Minister's

campaign tend to be those who rely on Government contracts.

But they are companies bringing in investments and creating jobs. We

have heard from Hitachi saying because of except, economists could

hold back. There is no evidence that investment in the UK will be

falling. Like they said scrap the pound and joined the euro. They said

they would leave the UK and disinvest. But we went from strength

to strength. Hitachi is highly dependent on government contracts.

What is remarkable is how the Prime Minister has shown disregard for

ordinary working people, who are suffering because of membership

under the EU, public services put under pressure, wages fall. He is

siding with the European elites. Can you guarantee in the short-term jobs

wouldn't be lost as a result of a Brexit rush to mark we will have

safer jobs and a more prosperous economy by embracing the globe and

trading with the world. How long would it take to get, in your view,

to that situation? The head of the World Trade Organisation says there

would be uncertainty and uncertainty is always unhelpful for the economy.

The Federal Reserve is warning Britain leaving could have serious

repercussions. It is amazing how much political capital the Prime

Minister has used in persuading his friends around the world to back

him. I wonder what price we will have to pay for that in the future.

The Prime Minister has spent his time talking down Britain and

producing the uncertainty and stability happening at the moment.

The day after independent state the Prime Minister will have to reverse

everything he has said and admits Britain will have a great future

outside the EU. Do you think when you hear the head of the World Trade

Organisation saying, I would be uncertainty, it is a lie? A year

ago, the Chancellor of the Exchequer said the World Trade Organisation

cannot be relied upon because they get their forecasts wrong. Is it

true that there would be uncertainty in the event of a Brexit? There

would be... As the head of the Remain campaign said, Lord Rose,

said there would be a gradual and managed change if we leave the EU.

Nothing dramatic will happen. We have a long period of time in which

to decide what we do. We can withdraw from the European Union

gradually. So there will be some movement in the markets for a week

or two, then it will settle down because the real economy will go

from strength to strength. Which significant economists on the world

stage are backing that view? We had a massive report reduced by 25

leading economists, all saying if we were to leave the EU, and the Prime

Minister's adviser ran an organisation called Open Europe who

said if the UK adopted the right policies, we could have more growth

outside the EU. The WTO has a head who is being investigated for fraud

and a prior head who is being investigated for sexual misconduct.

What type of organisation is this. It is not clear what would happen,

even in a gradual leaving. Trade agreements, nothing would change,

but there is no actual certainty what you would want to see happen,

would happen? If you have maximum uncertainty and maximum risk, stay

in the European Union because only one of two things can happen. The EU

will consolidate and we will be left on the margins, paying the bills and

swallowing the regulations without any say. Or as Lord Mervyn King has

said, the euro zone will explode and you don't want to be in the same

room when that goes off because we will end up paying for it and

clearing up the mess. If you want uncertainty, then vote to remain,

but if you want certainty, let's leave and take control of our

affairs. You have been personal about figures involved in the

campaigning, overall, do you think voters have been well served about

what they have heard on both sides, are they getting clear facts? Does

it oil down to, that side is lying, that site is lying, in the end who

do you believe? It is difficult. One of the reasons I resigned is I was

appalled in which the wake of Prime Minister had decided to become a

campaigning organisation rather than putting both sides to the people and

started intimidating and frightening people. This campaign has been run

in an appalling fashion and issues now around voting slips being sent

out to people for whom it is illegal to vote. People from the European

Union who should not have had those voting slips. My view is this, and I

have said it in a newspaper article, people don't know what to do, I

don't live who to believe. I say, in those circumstances, judge a person

by the company he keeps. I keep the company of two former chancellors of

the exchequer, a Foreign Secretary and the former governor of the Bank

of England, who are beholding to nobody. The other side have a bunch

of people who are signed up to the European elite, funded by the EU or

dependent on government contracts. Thank you very much for joining us.

Let us know what you think on that and everything else we are talking

about. At the end of last year,

large parts of the north of England, Scotland and areas

of Northern Ireland were deluged Homes were destroyed

and livelihoods lost. In response the Government promised

?2.3 billion to help strengthen existing flood defences

and start the building of new ones. But six months on, how

are communities recovering and are people's homes

and and businesses any closer A new report by Members

of Parliament on the Environment Audit Committee claims

the government's failed in helping the people that need the most

and that the cash promised isn't Let's have a look back at some

of the destruction the storms caused In the studio is Mary Creagh

MP who is the Chair From Carlisle, are homeowner

Tom Armstrong who's home was badly damaged by flood waters

and still hasn't been repaired. And Phil King is from

Carlisle Football Club - their ground was also hit but is in

the process of being repaired. Mary Creagh, have people been let

down? We think so. The government tried to cut flood defences at the

start of the parliament and then only put it back in when a

devastating flood occurs, and this year when they put an extra 700

million into the budget after the winter floods. First of all we don't

build the flood defences we need, we don't get that value for money and

we don't look after the flood defences we have. What that means

is, communities in areas thing, we have these flood defences, we will

be OK. Those defences fail when there is a flood, as we saw in York.

It is an unacceptable risk. Your committee thinks the government is

playing politics with funding for flood defences? The Minister said

the extra money was put in as a political calculation. And it

wouldn't be spent according to the normal cost benefit analysis. It

runs the risk of tax payers money not being spent well, poor

decision-making and geographical unfairness, as the areas that shall

the loudest do the best out of the programme. All budgets, barring a

couple that have been ring fenced, have been cut. This budget obviously

is no different from those, but money has been found when required.

Are you saying the money for flooding should be completely ring

fenced and protected as some other departments have been? The reviews

after the flooding in 2007 said that funding needs to go up more than

inflation year on year. This government in 2010 cut the flood

defence budget by 30%. It meant critical flood assets were not

maintained to the correct standard. We think it is completely wrong.

There are other areas, the area of local authorities not planning for

flood risks. We found a third of local authorities did not have a

plan to present to the government to say, this is what we will do in the

event of a flood hitting our town or area. The final thing is critical

infrastructure. We see roads and bridges washed away, devastation on

the transport net work, substations going down. We want the government

to give the energy, transport and telephone companies to protect those

assets from flooding, so when we have a flood, we don't have radio

silence and the police, firefighters and ambulance cannot respond. Tom

Armstrong, your house in colli was badly damaged, tell us what the

extent of the damage has been? I was about chest deep in my house. The

house has been stripped out and dry but because of my loss adjuster,

there has been no decision as to the figure for reinstating. I am still

in a rental property, no further on than I was four months ago. Where

there are issues prior to the flooding where you live on flood

defences? Will it make any difference? In Carlisle they spent

around 30 million on flood defences and we were considered a low risk

area. Prior to this, we didn't believe there were problems. Do you

think anything could have been done differently, or is this a force of

nature? I think the flood defences could have been better, from what we

were told. The Environment Agency raised flood defences to the height

of the water of the last floods. This time it was worse and it

reached the barrier. I think the Environment Agency could have done

more. We are seeing pictures of your home as we talk to you. Yes.

Obviously it looks completely devastating, what has it been like

living through that? It has not been fantastic. The insurance company Axa

are making it very difficult. I am self-employed and I am being asked

to substantiate my contents list again. The first time, I understand.

The second time, I am not happy, but I have done it. Now I have had to do

it a fourth time. It is affecting my business, having to take time out

trying to find ways to substantiate it again, again and again. Mary, you

are nodding when you heard what was going on with the insurance company?

Wakefield, my constituency, was flooded in 2007. Some insurance

companies are great but others put a series of road box in front of the

householder. They increase the flooding premium and for people who

have to claim, they find their insurance premiums going up or

access is rising also we have from one business in the Calder Valley,

whose access on the flood premium had gone up from ?1000 to ?250,000.

Can you blame the insurance companies, they face a massive hit.

Somebody has to pay for this and is secure better than prevention?

Insurance plays an important part. The government has put in place a

new scheme for homeowners to get affordable insurance. Many people

who have been flooded once or twice find they can no longer afford the

insurance premiums. But that doesn't cover businesses. Carlisle United

Football Club, how have you been affected? It has had a massive

impact. We were able to move quite quickly in the early phase, in terms

of getting football back. We were forced to play three games, which

should have been home games, away at other clubs. We were keen to get

back in quickly, which we did on the 23rd of January. We were able to

make decisions on a day-to-day basis. But what has followed has

been a long, drawn-out process, which we are still going through and

will be for the next few months in terms of reinstating areas like

offices and revisiting some of the public areas, the changing rooms,

redoing the pitch. There is still a lot of work to do six months on and

there will be for the next few months. You have a chance to speak

directly to Mary Creagh MP about what potentially could be done in

future to make the lives of people where you are, easier.

The flood defences in this area were pretty devastating and people

thought we were comfortable and safe and the flood defences are at the

back of the park and they have stop water coming through in the last

nine or ten years, but it was a massive deluge. From our point of

view we are in a position like a homeowner were in the park is a big

facility, a big operation and it was a massive disruption on our season

and we are in a position to ask Will this happen again? Perhaps it could.

Let us know your thoughts on that. Lots of you getting in touch about

Sarah Wollaston's decision to switch sides in the EU referendum debate.

Jeff has tweeted, can you trust anyone who has no real conviction

and who can change opinion at the moment's notice? I do not. Someone

else has said, it is a shame she changed sides, Brexit is the only

way out. Stewart tweets, what crime has she committed? Another one is

sometimes it is good to see that politicians are in a different

place. Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

with a summary of today's news. The Conservative MP,

Sarah Wollaston, who chairs the Commons Health Committee,

has switched to the Remain camp. The defection is in protest

against what she sees as "untrue" Leave claims about increases in NHS

spending in the event of a Brexit. The Tory MP, John Redwood,

who wants Britain to leave the EU, insists that money would be freed up

for the health service. The EU referendum could face a legal

challenge after the deadline for voter registration was extended

until midnight tonight. The decision to extend was taken

after the official website crashed, leaving tens of thousands

of would-be voters But now the millionaire and funder

of the Leave EU campaign, Arron Banks, says he's

considering seeking A British tourist who'd been missing

in Vietnam since last Saturday, Park rangers discovered the body

of 22-year-old Aiden Webb in Sin Chai village,

in the north of the country. The 22-year-old had set off to climb

Vietnam's highest mountain alone. MPs are accusing the government

of failing to do enough to protect The Commons Environmental Audit

Committee says more money needs to be spent on maintaining existing

flood barriers, as well as The Department for Environment says

it continues to spend record amounts, with more than ?2 billion

set aside to bolster flood defences. Health inspectors have condemned

a "chaotic" hospital emergency department which they say is failing

to keep patients safe. The Care Quality Commission found

long queues of ambulances outside the Queen Alexandra Hospital

in Portsmouth, while patients with serious symptoms waited

hours to be assessed. The hospital's trust says it's

working to make improvements. A replica of the Jules

Rimet World Cup trophy, owned by Brazilian footballing

legend Pele, has been auctioned off The Brazilian legend won

three World Cup medals, Now he's selling off

around 2,000 items The buyer of the famous cup has

asked to remain anonymous. That's a summary of the latest news,

join me for BBC Newsroom We will be talking in a few moments

about the latest in the youth debate about whether people with mental

health issues should be able to have euthanasia in countries that allow

it. Stay with us for that discussion. First, let's catch up

with the sport. So here are the sport

headlines this morning. Maria Sharapova will appeal her two

year ban from tennis The five-time Grand Slam winner says

the judgement by the International Tennis Federation

was "unfairly harsh". England cricketer Sarah Taylor wants

to shine a light on mental health issues after revealing she suffers

from debilitating panic attacks, that have caused her to take

an indefinite break from the sport. Marcus Rashford says his rise

from Manchester United debut to England striker

doesn't seem real. The 18-year old says

he wasn't even thinking about an international call-up -

he only played senior football And George Ford will make way

for Owen Farrell at fly-half, for England's opening

Test against Australia That's the sport this morning,

back to you Joanna. A man in Belgium is trying

to end his life because he can't Sebastien - a name we're

using to protect his identify - wants to be granted euthanasia

on the grounds of extreme psychological suffering and he has

spoken exclusively to us He claims he is attracted to young

men but cannot accept he is gay. He has suffered from depression

and other mental health problems Euthanasia is legal in Belgium, but

cases for it being used in psychiatric rather than physical

suffering are rare. Jonathan Blake, who has spoken to him, is here. Why

does he want to end his life? PCs no other options. He has struggled with

depression and other psychological problems. He has had treatment,

therapy, counselling and medication. A couple of years ago he found out

it was possible to go through with euthanasia in Belgium where there is

a liberal law for psychiatric cases. He is pursuing that. It is by no

means certain, but he is determined to go through with it. He is

struggling with his sexuality and has been described before as a

paedophile because he says that is wrong because he is attracted to

adolescent boys of 15 and older and young men. He had a very difficult

childhood and that is only one part of his condition. You said it is not

certain if the euthanasia will go ahead, what is the legal right

around it? It has been illegal since 2002 to end someone's live to

relieve suffering. Two doctors must agree in the case of physical

illnesses, but in a psychiatric case, it must be three doctors. The

key phrase is that patients must be suffering constant and unbearable

physical or mental suffering. You have spoken to him. Yes, I will give

you an idea of how widely used the euthanasia law is. In 2013, there

were 1807 confirmed euthanasia cases. This is the most recent year

for which there are figures available. 80% of those were for

cases where people aged 60 years and older, so the vast majority of

elderly people suffering of physical, terminal illness, and the

most common is cancer. If we are talking about psychiatric problems,

it is a tiny minority. 4% of the total in 2013 of successful cases of

euthanasia were for psychiatric illnesses. And that is the small

group that Sebastien falls into. Let's hear from him now.

TRANSLATION: My whole life has led me to this really,

my mother had dementia, so I was not right mentally.

I'm talking about strange conversations, and then not

It was instilled in me, so I was extremely lonely,

extremely withdrawn, and very inhibited physically.

Scared to go out, scared of being seen.

Growing up, when I was 15, I met a boy and fell crazy

But I am relieved that I'm capable of falling in love with boys

who are out of adolescence, and despite everything,

it's unbearable for me, this sexual orientation.

Can you accept that you are homosexual?

Euthanasia is an extreme choice, what has driven new to this point?

TRANSLATION: I've always thought about death, looking back

on my earliest memories it's always been in my thoughts.

What really comes next, how to control your own death,

it's a permanent suffering like being in prison in my own body.

Not being able to go out, a constant sense of shame,

feeling tired, being attracted to people that

As though everything were the opposite of

And then, there are huge difficulties with relationships

because it is hugely difficult to communicate with

I discovered that euthanasia was available for psychiatric issues

two years ago so I tried to find out if it was an option for me,

How determined are you to pursue euthanasia?

TRANSLATION: If someone came up with something radically different

to everything I've done, then yes, I would try it.

Looking after myself is not about talking to psychologists,

So yes, if someone can give me some kind of miracle

You should also know that if the euthanasia committee denies

a request for euthanasia, there is an offer of follow-up care

for those who are in charge of euthanasia.

So there are things to be tried, like electric shocks, for example,

If you pass the assessments, have you thought about the final

stages of the process of euthanasia, and how it will happen.

TRANSLATION: It is not clear yet where it will take place

but I would like it to be done in a hospital.

The hardest thing now is telling my family, if I get a yes

that is what is going to be the most delicate.

I'm thinking most of all of my father because we are not in touch

But no, the moment when they put a drip in my arm?

For me, it's just anaesthetic, and you accept that you die.

That's all I think about and I'm at peace with that.

I'm more at peace with dying like this than having

to take my own life because there are no easy solutions.

That was Sebastien talking to you, Jonathan. A really powerful

interview. He is just 39, had two psychiatrists see this? There is

broad agreement among the medical community in Belgium about the law

on euthanasia. It is seen as efficient and there are very few

cases that are controversial. There is public support for it in the

country as well, but cases like this cause I debate. I spoke to a

practising psychiatrist who explained the level of debate among

the psychiatric community. We have meetings and debates

about it because it doesn't quite divide us, but not everybody has

the same advice about that. Some people say it is a good thing,

people must be free to choose and not to hurt themselves

with suicide and to end their life Other people say no,

never, we cannot do that, it is never finished and we are not

God and we cannot decide for the other and it is, how do

you say, unaccompanied suicide. Assisted suicide and we do

not want to do that. Doctors do not want to be

killers of the other. And some people are just in between,

OK, it is interesting, it is a good law for some people,

it is to diminish the suffering of the people who can

do it another way. But not for everybody,

not too easily, it must not be And so we have the three ways

of thinking and we discussed it and I think that no one is right

and no one is wrong. It is just a very difficult law

and it is a philosophical and ethical question

which is very deep. baby what is likely to happen from

here, Jonathan? Sebastian is at the start of a very long process. He has

had an initial decision from a doctor he can pursue it. Three. Us

will need to agree his case fits within the euthanasia law for him to

be able to go through it. As we heard from him, he is in a state of

permanent suffering and feels trapped in his own body. He remains

determined to pursue a euthanasia. Jonathan has e-mailed saying I hate

being gay. Without regular support I would have killed myself. I hate

myself most of the time. Ed Sheeran is being

sued for $20 million by the writers of a song released

by the former X Factor The writers of Cardle's single

'Amazing' allege that Sheeran copied their song

for his single Photograph. In a moment we'll talk

to our arts and music guru Chi Chi Izundu,

but first what do you think? How did you find me. Came out of

nowhere, like lightning. Kind of amazing how you found me, through

all the noise somehow. Chi Chi Izundu is here to talk

us through it. There is a huge amount of cash.

There is, the two song writers are saying they want the royalties from

photograph which sold 3.5 million copies last summer. They want a

credit so as it continues to sell they make some cash. It has been

licensed in a Hollywood film, Me Before You. They say if you listen

to the song, particularly the chorus, there are 39 identical note

between Ed Sheron's Photograph and the that Cardle are formed Amazing.

They said they wrote Amazing in 2010 so it recedes the date that Ed

Sheron released Photograph. Back came off his multiple platinum

selling album, Multiply. What has to be proven to win a case like this,

are they difficult to win? They are, they are incredibly complicated. I

spoke to somebody last month whose job is to look at cases like this,

it is the science of music. The judge has to decide whether or not

there is enough similarity for a case to go ahead in Los Angeles.

Then it goes to the jury. Then it is up to the jury to decide how much is

paid. The interesting part is I have employed the same lawyer that won

the Blurred Line case and he managed to get 3.5 million in that case and

it changed the landscape of music and copyright because the same

musicologist told me last year, the music world is paranoid. They are

quite worried everything sounds a little too similar. In the same

vein, people are thinking it sounds quite similar to what I did a few

years ago. Therefore I will take it to the courts. Really interesting,

keep us up today on what happens. Hours away from the summit

of the world's highest mountain, Leslie Binns turned back down

the mountain to save a stranger The ex-serviceman from

South Yorkshire even tried to rescue another climber who'd got

into trouble but sadly, It was on a week in which five

people were killed on Mount Everest. This week Leslie Binns arrived back

with his fiance Lindsey Empringham Also from India we've got

Sunita Hazra who's life Leslie Leslie, reading the account of what

you went through, your actions where heroin. Take us back to the moment

when you realised there was trouble ahead? I was approaching a part of a

mountain called the balcony which is around 8000 metres above sea level.

I was with my Sherpa. As we looked up we actually saw a bit of a

commotion. The next thing I knew, Sunita came sliding down the

mountain. She was clipped onto a safety line but she had either lost

her footing or, tried to get herself down and ended up slipping by me. I

had to rub the tackle her to stop her going further down the mountain.

What the conditions like? It was very cold. At that moment in time,

the conditions were quite good. You tackled her and you had Heather.

What was it like then? When I stopped her, she was in distress,

semiconscious and could hardly speak. She was upside down so we put

her right way up. The first thing I checked was her oxygen. I looked up

the regulator and she had no oxygen left. I knew she was in trouble.

Without oxygen at that height? Some people can climb that, but you have

to be superhuman. Normal climbers always use oxygen. If you haven't

got oxygen at that altitude, you have serious trouble. What I did, I

took my oxygen mask off to try to give her some oxygen and then try

and let her help herself down the mountain. I initially wanted to

carry on. She came around a bit, was strong enough to set off and started

climbing down. After 20 metres, she collapsed and I knew I had to cancel

my summit bid and go and help her. You effectively saved her life? Yes.

If somebody wasn't there to help her, she would have perished on the

mountain. Sunita, is here and can hear what you are saying. Thanks for

joining us. What do you say? Leslie is here, the man who saved your

life, what do you say to him? Hello. Hello, Sunita. How are you? I am

very good, it is nice to see a smile on your face. I will just explain,

Sunita is talking through a translator. I think if the

translator can hear? Can you ask Sunita how grateful she is to

Richard for saving her life? TRANSLATION: I am very grateful. She

is saying she is very grateful. Grateful from the bottom of her

heart that Leslie was there and he rescued her from that. She was

unconscious and she couldn't breathe because her oxygen cylinder was

finished. She wants to thank Leslie from all of her heart. She will

remain grateful for ever, but she is now spending time with her family.

It is only because of Leslie. Leslie was there.

TRANSLATION: She is saying she felt a very guilty that Leslie was just a

few metres away from the summit, 400 or 500 metres away from the summit.

At that time he had to give up his summit and she feels very guilty for

this. She wants that if Leslie can arrange another expedition next year

or the year after, she will be very happy if Leslie gets the chance to

fulfil his dream. Sunita, there is no need to feel guilty. Seeing you

with a smile on your face and knowing you are back with your

family, makes me feel very, very happy. Thank you.

TRANSLATION: She cannot hold her tears and she said the next day,

when the Sherpa came to take her to camp three, she lost her friend. He

was dead between the two camps. She thinks she would also not be alive

if Leslie was not there like God. Sunita, you are making me cry now. I

am so happy for you. I really am. TRANSLATION: She is saying she is

physically fit now. She is recovering fast. But her fingers are

not well. They might have an operation and she is tense about her

fingers. She is very happy she is alive. Sunita, it is great to hear

from you and see you like that. You are Leslie's fiance, it is moving to

hear that, you must feel incredibly proud? Extremely proud. It brings

back all of the emotions of actually getting in contact with them in the

hospital. It is overpowering. Will you go back washed and Mark we have