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Hello it's Thursday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

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Last night saw more tension in France at the European

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Championship - between English fans and French police in Lille,

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with tear gas, pepper spray and baton charges

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I'm Dan Brown, I'll be reporting live from Lille, where it is clear

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that French police last night simply lost patience with the behaviour of

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England fans, here. On the pitch this is finally the day

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everybody has been looking forward to, England play Wales. Northern

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Ireland face Ukraine in a match they simply cannot afford to lose.

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Also this morning, a special report on the hundreds of thousands

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of children in Romania whose parents have left them behind to seek work

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So this is a poster put up by Save The Children,

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and this means have you told the town hall who you've

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And it's because sometimes parents go

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overseas and they don't let the authorities know who's

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supposed to be looking after their children.

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And on the day that two health organisations call

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for the decriminalisation of drugs - a father who lost both his sons

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to ecstasy on the same night - says he agrees with them.

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Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning.

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I wonder if you're one of those who thinks the the Bank of England

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and the Treasury are quote - "peddling phoney forecasts" to scare

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people into voting to stay in the EU?

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That's what they're being accused of this morning.

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We'll have the details in just a moment.

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Plus on the EU ref - with a week to go -

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who's going to win - remain oe leave?

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If you're getting in touch use the hashtag Victoria

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Live and if you text, you will be charged

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Our top story today, 36 people have been arrested and 16 taken

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to hospital as French riot police clashed with England fans

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Supporters of England and Wales had been gathering there

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ahead of the crucial European Championship game

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A day of relatively passive policing by the French ended long

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They played a game of cat and mouse with England fans,

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trying to disperse them with teargas.

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A few hundred England supporters had spent the day drinking

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One by one they were closed, keeping the fans mobile.

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They said they had done nothing wrong.

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Nothing was getting thrown, nothing being said, we were just

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Then all of a sudden a bang went off, police started charging

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towards us, my reaction was to grab my mate,

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Police closed in from all sides, scattering supporters.

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It wasn't clear why the riot officers moved in, but it was clear

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that they'd had enough of some English fans' behaviour.

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It's about midnight now and the England fans

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are being followed around by French riot police.

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But they are coming at them from all different angles.

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We have a line of riot police here, another line

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there and they are trying to keep English fans on the move.

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Not a good night for English supporters here.

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It doesn't put them in a good light at all.

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The concern had been about clashes with Russian supporters,

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but the reality was England fans versus the police.

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The worry now is that there will be more of this today.

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Good morning. Morning, Victoria. Well, a depressing morning here in

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Lille for England in the sense that the fans who were here last night,

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it was clear from what we could see, they were getting increasingly drunk

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through the evening. Setting off flares, taunting the police,

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climbing up some of the road signs in the city centre, smashing glass

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around the bars here. In the end the French riot police who had been

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trying to contain the fans throughout the evening simply lost

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patience, it seems. I think there was a feeling perhaps the police in

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Marseille had lost can't roll and the police in Lille didn't want to

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be seen to be losing control. This was not an issue with Russian fans,

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this was really England fans who had been drinking too much. The England

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fans, some of them have said the police tactics were too

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heavy-handed, they did not need to go in with tear gas and pepper

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spray. The French police believed they wanted to restore order and

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that's what they did. Let's talk to England fans who have just arrived

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in Lille for the game today against Wales in Lens just down the road.

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You are all from Wolverhampton, I think. I know you were not here last

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night and you did not see what happened and you were not involved,

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but what is your reaction to the news that there were 36 arrests and

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16 people in hospital? I think England fans are very passionate. It

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is not good news, it does not reflect fairly on our country. We

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have got such great support, we like to come out. All these guys are

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enjoying it. It is not seen is that we really want to see. So it is a

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minority causing the trouble? I think if it was a majority, so many

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people would not be coming here, they would be trying to avoid this

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city. Certainly it is a minority. The atmosphere is getting up now,

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we've just got to enjoy it, looking forward to a fantastic day. A

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fantastic day, but overshadowed by the trouble last night again. From

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what we heard and saw, the police presence were antagonising fans,

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really. Sue you blame the police? It doesn't help, wearing a riot gear

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and shields. It might look a little more intimidating to England fans

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than it is, but that's not excusing the ones who have been arrested,

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we're not here to be apologists for them. We do not want circumstances

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of that. We are just here to enjoy it. England fans, Welsh fans mixed

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in amongst each other, cheering on our teens, that's what it's about

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and what we should be concentrating on. I believe today we can restore

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some pride in our country. There was an appeal from Roy Hodgson and Wayne

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Rooney for England fans to behave, and it is important that they do,

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especially inside the stadium. England and Wales playing each

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other, you have seen the atmosphere. A lot of love between the countries.

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I would be surprised to see trouble at the grounds with the home

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nations. And what do you think of the game today, Ayew confident of an

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England victory? Confident is a word thrown around a bit too much today.

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Do I want us to win? Absolutely, but will we? I hope so. Three England

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fans from Wolverhampton who will be watching the game. Already be in the

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fans and many Wales fans in Lille are drinking in the past. There are

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supposed to be severe restrictions on alcohol sales and jinking in

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Lille but they seem to be flouted. Shops and supermarkets still selling

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beer and alcohol in pretty large quantities from what we've seen. Yet

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we had that warning from Roy Hodgson and the England captain Wayne Rooney

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for England fans to behave. Certainly last night here in the

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city centre of Lille, not all of them behaved. Many were not really a

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credits to England. We will be hoping that it comes down to night

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after the game. But clearly there are a lot of fans here, a lot of

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England fans in Lille who do not have tickets for the game in Lens

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and will be watching in bars here. Police will be keeping a watch on

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them. Thanks for the moment. We will talk to plenty more England

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and Wales supporters throughout the morning. The brasserie behind Ben

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was open with fans their drinking, weren't there?

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Let's get the rest of the news so far this morning, here's Annita.

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With exactly a week to go until voters decide whether the UK

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should stay in the European Union, both sides have been

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The Labour leaders of ten big cities outside London are warning

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their local economies would be put at risk by a British exit.

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In the Leave camp, four senior Conservatives have accused

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the Treasury of "peddling phoney forecasts" to frighten people

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Our political guru Norman Smith is in Westminster for us and can

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give us all the details on today's campaigning.

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Just when you think the level of accusation and acrimony cannot be

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ramped up more, it is. We used to senior Tories taking lumps out of

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senior Tories, and there was more of that this morning, these four senior

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Conservatives attacking George Osborne for what they call ludicrous

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scaremongering. What will strike most people is the fact they also

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leading to the Bank of England, the Treasury, the civil service and

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other official sources. Let me give you a sense of the language they

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use, talking about "Startling dishonesty" "Woeful failure to

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produce a fair, balanced picture" and "Peddling phoney forecasts".

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Number ten have expressed concern that the sort of criticism risks

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undermining these organisations which are meant to be out of the

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political frame. I put that charge to Michael Howard this morning and

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this is what he said. I'm afraid that the responsibility

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for that lies with the Remain side of this argument, they have dragged

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the Treasury and the Bank of England and others into this debate in a way

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which I think should not have happened. Since the forecast made by

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these bodies are fundamentally flawed, I think we have a duty to

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point that out. Does not mean that after this referendum these bodies

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are inevitably tarnished, their credibility undermined? I think

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there is a danger of that. I hope they can recover. I think it would

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be much better if they had stood aside from the debate and been

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impartial and that hasn't happened. And I hope that in time they will

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recover their reputations. But I think that given the flawed

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forecasts that many of them had put out, there is, I'm afraid, a bit of

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a danger of that. Former Labour Chancellor Alistair

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Darling has accused the Leave side of trying to intimidate people like

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the governor of the Bank of England, to muzzle them, to make sure they

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don't make further criticisms of the case believing the EU. Whereas the

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Leave side say these guys have got it wrong before. But also this

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criticism chimes with their attempt to present this referendum is a

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tussle between the establishment and ordinary voters.

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We'll be answer your questions on the EU Referendum to give

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you the facts throughout the day with our BBC experts.

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If it's on the economy, immigration, or sovereignty we will answer them.

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The Conservative MP and former Chancellor Ken Clarke,

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who wants Britain to remain in the EU will also be

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answering your questions at 1130 here on the BBC News Channel.

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You can get in touch via Twitter using the hashtag BBC Ask This,

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Thousands of girls and boys have been left behind in Romania,

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by parents who are working abroad - many in the UK.

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Save the Children Romania says that 350,000 children there have

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at least one parent working abroad, while four in ten are living

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EU migration laws allow Romanian adults to travel

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Later in the programme, we'll have a special report on some

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of those children separated from their families.

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If you were to say something to your mum about her going? I'd tell her

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that I love her, and I want to see her more often. It's not easy.

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Two leading public health organisations are calling

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for the possession and personal use of all illegal drugs to be

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The Royal Society for Public Health, and the Faculty of Public Health,

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say the government's approach to drugs policy has failed.

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The Home Office has defended its record,

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saying drug abuse has fallen in the last ten years.

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And coming up later in this morning's programme,

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Victoria will be talking to a father whose two sons both died on the same

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Wreckage from the EgyptAir jet that crashed into the Mediterranean last

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month has been found, according to Egyptian officials.

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The A320 disappeared from radar screens during a flight from Paris

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to Cairo with 66 people on board, without sending out a distress call.

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Investigators have discovered fuselage using

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Police divers have found the body of a toddler

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who was killed by an alligator at Walt Disney World in Florida.

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The two-year-old boy has been named as Lane Graves.

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He was dragged into a lagoon as he played on the shore on Tuesday

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evening, despite his parents' attempts to save him.

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Trappers have caught and killed a number of alligators around

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That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9.30.

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There are many of us looking forward to England Wales

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game this afternoon, my sons are a bit discombobulated

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about being at school and not being able to watch it live -

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but loads of you are telling your children's schools

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Jannine Walker says - Our school is allowing kids in kit

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for the match in the afternoon and parents to join for the second

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Who will know?! The headteacher, the form to discover the parents!

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Everyone will know! Let me know what is happening where you work, have

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you been given permission to watch this afternoon? Just use the

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hashtag. Here's Sally in Paris

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with the sport. I couldn't agree more, everybody at

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home, put on the TV at two beyond, at work, at school, it is worth

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watching -- at 2pm. We are hoping the focus will be on the football

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today, a creature of day for the three home nations. The match many

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across Britain have been looking forward to since December, when the

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draw came out, we knew this would happen, 2pm, England against Wales

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in Lens. Our correspondent Hywel Griffith

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is there, and Hywel a real sense Yes, a lot of fans here already, as

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well as the classic British weather! The focus now hopefully is on what

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happens on the field and hearing from both camps yesterday on a bit

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of tension for England, with only one point going into the game so a

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win would make a difference. Wales, three points on the board, having

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beaten Slovakia, their feeling is a lot more relaxed giving giving into

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this game. Inevitably there has been some wind up in the build-up, Gareth

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Bale is talking about the Welsh players having more passion, that

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may having struck a nerve in the England camp, but this is a big

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occasion for Britain. Many people in England and Great

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Britain looking forward to this game. We certainly are, perhaps even

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around the world, the fact that it is a game between brothers, if you

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like, it adds spice to it, adds interest. It is something which I

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can only welcome, really. If anything, it heightens the occasion,

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rather than lessons it. Whatever is going on around England, and there

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is a lot going on, there is a lot of -- a lot expected of them because

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they have had great players down the years, there has been expectancy

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around England every time they coming to a tournament, there is a

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lot of pressure on England, and that is what I meant, we don't want to

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get caught up with that. As soon as this game was on the menu, we knew

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what was coming before it starts. Chris Coleman they're saying really

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the pressure is on England, however the pressure in the Welsh country

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comes with them having beaten Belgium to get into this

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competition. Wales are confident they can perform in the big game but

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England go in as favourites with the attacking threat of Fardy

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potentially starting, we are waiting for the team news, Roy Hodgson did

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not give anything away yesterday. For the Welsh team news, goalkeeper

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rain Hennessey is still an injury doubt, we won't know until close to

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kick-off whether or not he will start.

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And it looks like the rain is setting for the day. I think you go

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and get dry! It's a big day for

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Northern Ireland too. Defeat to Poland in Nice last

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weekend has given them an uphill struggle if they're to make

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the next stage. Based near Lyon, they play Ukraine

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there this afternoon and manager Michael O'Neill knows

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the pressure is on. Having lost the first game, I think

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there is a natural fear of, when do you go home? I think other countries

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will feel the same so we have to make sure that is the motivating

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factor, and I have no doubt it will be, we love our base, we want to

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stay there as long as we can! We want to make sure tomorrow night

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that we play like a cup final because we know the significance of

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three points. That is all from Paris, the final

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Match Of The Day sees Germany take on Poland at the start of France,

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just a few miles from here. It could be a lively evening.

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For a parent, losing a child is tragic.

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Losing both of your children together is unthinkable.

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But in November 2014, that's what happened to Ray Lakeman.

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His sons Jacques, who was 20, and Torin, who was 19,

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had met up to spend the weekend together and watch a football match.

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Two days later they were found dead, together, in the B

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Today, two high-profile health organisations,

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the Royal Society for Public Health and the Faculty of Public Health,

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are calling for the personal possession and use of all illegal

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They say the so-called 'war on drugs' has failed,

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although they say that dealers must still be prosecuted.

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It's a stance Ray Lakeman agrees with.

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Good morning to you, thank you for coming on to our programme. Tell us

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why you believe the use of drugs and personal possession should be

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decriminalised? It is quite clear to me that young people are taking

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drugs. It is part of their culture. They are dangerous, we know they are

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dangerous, but it isn't stopping them. The only way that we can stop

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deaths like my children is to regulate the drugs so that they know

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exactly what it is they are taking. And reduce the risk of accidental

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overdoses. You would go further than what the two health organisations

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are saying, they want decriminalisation of the use of

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illegal drugs but you are saying legalise all drugs? I'm happy with

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what they are saying, decriminalising it. I think part of

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the problem when it comes to debating drug usage is the fact that

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it is criminalised so people are not open and honest about what they are

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doing. If you want to educate children, talk to your children

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about what is going on, it is a lot easier if they can say, I'm taking

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this, I'm taking back, and they are not naming themselves as being

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criminals. You will never know, but could it have made a difference to

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your sons? We did talk to them about the dangers of drugs, obviously it

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didn't stop them doing it. I think that, had they known exactly what it

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was they were taking, they took a powdered form, had they known

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exactly how strong it was, what the quantity was, it was probably about

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15 doses, something like that, they would not have taken it. As far as

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we can see, they took this packet, divided it up in two and took half

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of the each, and that was enough to kill them. When did you find out

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what had happened? We knew on the Sunday, they went to the football on

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the Saturday, Torin was going back to Aberystwyth, where he was at

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university, and Jacques was staying with his grandmother in London, he

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had just got a job in London. He was due back at about 4:30pm, 5:30pm,

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and I rang my mother at 6:30pm as I did unusual and she said he had not

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come back but she was expecting him as they were going out that evening.

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Immediately I thought there was something wrong because being a

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teenager he is always likely to let me and his mother down but he would

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never let his grandmother down, so as soon as she said he hadn't turned

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up we knew something had gone wrong. Try to contact them on their mobile

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phones and got nothing, and the longer it went on the more concerned

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we became. It was about midnight I think, I finally got contacted by

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Manchester police, to see whether they had got arrested or something

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like that, that was the best we could hope for, or that they had had

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an accident and way hospital, but that was not the case so I reported

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them missing almost straightaway. It was not until 8pm on the Monday that

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we had confirmation what had happened. And they were together in

:23:30.:23:34.

the room they were staying in? They were not found until 2:30pm on the

:23:35.:23:41.

Monday. I don't know how you coped with that, Ray. It was very, very

:23:42.:23:46.

difficult. The whole day was difficult. After that, things were a

:23:47.:23:53.

bit of a blur. To be honest, we came to terms with it fairly quickly,

:23:54.:23:56.

about what had happened, although my wife still expected them to turn up

:23:57.:24:02.

at any minute. Expecting them to come through the door. Even though

:24:03.:24:10.

we know they are upstairs, their ashes are upstairs in little boxes.

:24:11.:24:17.

You said you had tried to talk to them about drugs, did you know that

:24:18.:24:21.

they dabbled or had tried them? We knew Jacques had... The older one?

:24:22.:24:29.

Yes, we tried to talk to him about it but he would categorically deny

:24:30.:24:33.

he had taken any drugs even though it was obvious by his behaviour that

:24:34.:24:38.

he had taken them. He did actually have a couple of incidents where he

:24:39.:24:42.

collapsed and we had to get an ambulance and taken to hospital.

:24:43.:24:49.

Torin was there to witness this, so we were fairly... He was quite angry

:24:50.:24:52.

with his brother, calling him all the names under the sun, stupid and

:24:53.:24:57.

things like that, so we were fairly confident that he would never go

:24:58.:25:01.

anywhere near drugs. I'm sure that his interest came when he went to

:25:02.:25:05.

university and he was with other students and things like that who

:25:06.:25:10.

were indulging and things like that, tried them aren't obviously enjoyed

:25:11.:25:16.

it. As many people do. Yes, and we have to accept, whether we like it

:25:17.:25:19.

or not, we have to accept that is the case, that is what is happening.

:25:20.:25:25.

People need to know that their children are probably indulging.

:25:26.:25:31.

This could happen to them. My boys were bright, intelligent, creative.

:25:32.:25:35.

They knew the risks, they knew it was dangerous. I would love to be

:25:36.:25:40.

able to turn around and say, drugs are dangerous, they can kill you,

:25:41.:25:44.

let's have them banned, and that. It. But it is not the case, they are

:25:45.:25:50.

banned and it has not stopped it. Let's just work through with you

:25:51.:25:53.

your view that legalising them would be better, they would be regulated,

:25:54.:25:59.

powder wouldn't be mixed up with goodness knows what, bleach and

:26:00.:26:05.

whatever else, and it would be, what, sold over-the-counter at

:26:06.:26:08.

chemists, on prescription, what? What are you thinking? I really

:26:09.:26:14.

haven't thought that much about it. I do think people in the medical

:26:15.:26:19.

profession would support this stance as well, it is difficult for them to

:26:20.:26:24.

say so. I would envisage probably across the counter as much of

:26:25.:26:30.

anything else, actually have regulated shops, things like that,

:26:31.:26:35.

go and get it from a chemist. So then you could have drugs and I

:26:36.:26:40.

could take drugs, and my kids, when they are 18, could take drugs, would

:26:41.:26:45.

that be all right? Well, if they want to, they are going to. Nobody

:26:46.:26:51.

is forcing them to take them, but they are taking them, and they are

:26:52.:26:54.

going to continue taking them regardless of the risks. All we can

:26:55.:26:58.

do is make it as safe as we possibly can, because I don't think... The

:26:59.:27:06.

war on drugs is lost. It would be lovely to say they are banned. It

:27:07.:27:10.

did not work with alcohol, why on earth do we persist in believing it

:27:11.:27:14.

is going to work with all of these other things? These health

:27:15.:27:19.

organisations today are saying we need to treat this as a health issue

:27:20.:27:23.

rather than a criminal issue, and treat people who take drugs, move

:27:24.:27:30.

the drugs strategy from the Home Office to the Department of Health,

:27:31.:27:35.

have drugs education universally in schools up and down the land. What

:27:36.:27:39.

do you think of that? People take drugs for various reasons, there are

:27:40.:27:44.

people who are self-medicating by doing this. They are being

:27:45.:27:51.

criminalised. If you are in that situation, I don't think you should

:27:52.:27:55.

be treated as a criminal. I do think you should be treated, I think it

:27:56.:28:01.

should be decriminalised, get help and support. Education is fine but

:28:02.:28:06.

there is already education, there are already messages out there that

:28:07.:28:11.

drugs are dangerous. As I said, it isn't stopping people. I wish it

:28:12.:28:17.

would, but it won't. What do you say to parents who might be watching

:28:18.:28:24.

now, and those younger who use drugs recreationally, what do you say to

:28:25.:28:28.

them about talking to teenagers, to their young adult children about

:28:29.:28:34.

drugs? By all means warm them, talk to them about the dangers, but be

:28:35.:28:39.

aware that, with the situation as it is, they may not be open with you.

:28:40.:28:45.

They might deny it, like Jacques did? I would say almost certainly.

:28:46.:28:50.

If we want to discuss it, if you want to discuss it with your

:28:51.:28:53.

children, even teachers in school, the children are not going to be

:28:54.:28:58.

open about what they are doing, saying, I'm taking this or that,

:28:59.:29:04.

what would happen if I took this? They leave themselves open to being

:29:05.:29:08.

criminalised, so they are not going to tell you what they are doing. It

:29:09.:29:11.

is also part of growing up, they want to keep things from their

:29:12.:29:19.

parents, and this kind of attitude response is part of being a

:29:20.:29:24.

teenager, part of growing up. As you say, Jacques went into hospital

:29:25.:29:29.

twice after drugs incidents so it was clear he was using them. I

:29:30.:29:34.

wonder why you think that wasn't enough to deter him from then

:29:35.:29:41.

continuing to use drugs? In his case it could well have been a coping

:29:42.:29:46.

mechanism for things that were going gone, but there was no doubt that he

:29:47.:29:53.

enjoyed the experience. Even though he was hospitalised, and obviously

:29:54.:29:56.

he knew that it was risky, he was told by the doctors and things like

:29:57.:30:02.

that the stuff that he was taking was dangerous. When this happened

:30:03.:30:06.

they put him in touch with drugs and alcohol people who talked to him,

:30:07.:30:09.

put him on a programme, this that and the other, but once again it was

:30:10.:30:15.

easy for him to turn around and say, I'm OK now, I'm over that. And then

:30:16.:30:19.

they would drop the programme, and then a while later he is back again.

:30:20.:30:27.

There is also the invincibility approach, we probably all have it

:30:28.:30:31.

when we are young, you think, it is not going to happen to me. I think

:30:32.:30:35.

what happened to my boys, people are turning round to say, it happened to

:30:36.:30:39.

them, it won't happen to me, the chances of it happening to me are

:30:40.:30:47.

very few, because it has happened... They are playing Russian roulette

:30:48.:30:50.

every time they are doing this. I just want to make it safer, I don't

:30:51.:30:54.

want anybody else to go through what I'm going through. Thank you very

:30:55.:30:56.

much for talking to us. We'll talk to England and Wales fans

:30:57.:30:59.

about the trouble in Lille last night and the football match due

:31:00.:31:05.

to take place in Lens And we have a special report

:31:06.:31:08.

from Romania on the hundreds of thousands of children there whose

:31:09.:31:12.

parents have left them Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

:31:13.:31:15.

with a summary of todays news. 36 people have been arrested and 16

:31:16.:31:28.

taken to hospital as French riot police clashed with England fans

:31:29.:31:33.

in the city of Lille last night. Supporters of England and Wales had

:31:34.:31:36.

been gathering there ahead of the crucial European Championship

:31:37.:31:39.

game between the teams With exactly a week to go

:31:40.:31:41.

until voters decide whether the UK should stay in the European Union,

:31:42.:31:48.

both sides are stepping up their campaigning

:31:49.:31:50.

around the country. Former prime minister Gordon Brown

:31:51.:31:55.

will campaign in Manchester later and the Labour leaders of ten big

:31:56.:31:59.

cities outside London are warning that their local economies would be

:32:00.:32:02.

put at risk by a British exit. In the Leave camp, four senior

:32:03.:32:05.

Conservatives have accused the Treasury of "peddling phoney

:32:06.:32:09.

forecasts" to frighten people Thousands of girls and boys have

:32:10.:32:11.

been left behind in Romania, by parents who are working abroad -

:32:12.:32:19.

many in the UK. Save the Children Romania says that

:32:20.:32:21.

350,000 children there have at least one parent working abroad,

:32:22.:32:24.

while four in ten are living EU migration laws allow Romanian

:32:25.:32:27.

adults to travel Later in the programme,

:32:28.:32:31.

we'll have a special report on some of those children separated

:32:32.:32:37.

from their families. Two leading public health

:32:38.:32:39.

organisations are calling for the possession and personal use

:32:40.:32:41.

of all illegal drugs to be The Royal Society for Public Health,

:32:42.:32:44.

and the Faculty of Public Health, say the government's approach

:32:45.:32:54.

to drugs policy has failed, and there should be more focus

:32:55.:32:56.

on treatment and education. The Home Office has

:32:57.:32:58.

defended its record, saying drug abuse has fallen

:32:59.:33:00.

in the last decade. Russia has been accused of trying

:33:01.:33:04.

to stop officials from carrying out The World Anti-Doping Agency says

:33:05.:33:07.

Russian security services have It comes as Russia is due to find

:33:08.:33:13.

out if it will be allowed to send That's a summary of the latest BBC

:33:14.:33:20.

News - more at 10.00 Couple of comments about the

:33:21.:33:37.

interview with Ray Lakeman. What a measured man, says Tom on Twitter.

:33:38.:33:42.

He'd have every right to hold the opposite view, losing both sons in

:33:43.:33:46.

such circumstances. And Mel says, it's so sad to listen to Ray talking

:33:47.:33:50.

about losing his sons to ecstasy, it's heartbreaking.

:33:51.:33:56.

Here's some sport now with Sally in Paris.

:33:57.:34:00.

It's the day a large proportion of the country have been waiting for,

:34:01.:34:06.

England against Wales in Lens. England cannot afford another

:34:07.:34:11.

slip-up after only drawing their opening match. Wales know they could

:34:12.:34:13.

qualify for the knockout phase with a win. Big day from Northern

:34:14.:34:18.

Ireland, they lost their opening match against Poland. They face

:34:19.:34:23.

Ukraine and cannot afford another defeat in Lyon. Kyle Edmonds notched

:34:24.:34:29.

up the best win of his career, beating French eighth seed Jill

:34:30.:34:33.

Simon at Queens yesterday. Another win today against Mathieu would see

:34:34.:34:41.

him face the winner of Andy Murray's match.

:34:42.:34:43.

As we've been hearing, there was more violence

:34:44.:34:45.

between football supporters on the streets of Lille last night

:34:46.:34:50.

after the Russia Slovakia game, and ahead of the England Wales game

:34:51.:34:53.

this afternoon just down the road in Lens.

:34:54.:34:54.

There were 36 were arrests and 16 people were taken to hospital.

:34:55.:34:57.

Our correspondent, Danny Savage, was there.

:34:58.:35:00.

Police are just following the English fans around.

:35:01.:35:02.

They're throwing some fire crackers but they just pushing supporters

:35:03.:35:05.

They're not actually detaining anyone.

:35:06.:35:09.

They're just following them around the city centre.

:35:10.:35:19.

French police played a game of cat and mouse with England fans,

:35:20.:35:21.

many of whom had spent the day drinking in bars.

:35:22.:35:26.

As the evening wore on the bars were closed, meaning the fans

:35:27.:35:29.

They insisted they hadn't done anything wrong.

:35:30.:35:34.

None of us were causing trouble, nothing was being thrown. Nothing

:35:35.:35:40.

was being said really. We were just having a drink at this bar. All of a

:35:41.:35:45.

sudden a bang went off, police started charging towards us. My

:35:46.:35:49.

reaction was, grab my mate and ran down this road. That's as far as I

:35:50.:35:54.

know. We heard a bang and the police started charging. What were the

:35:55.:35:57.

England fans doing, being boisterous? They were just singing

:35:58.:36:02.

here. Then there was an absolute wall of them with riot shields and

:36:03.:36:03.

they started charging. There were also Russian supporters

:36:04.:36:06.

causing trouble in Lille. The ex-England footballer,

:36:07.:36:08.

Stan Collymore, posted The ex-England footballer, Stan

:36:09.:36:10.

Collymore, posted a video online. Russian fans throwing things.

:36:11.:36:20.

Russian fans throwing bottles. Russian fans throwing things. Yes,

:36:21.:36:37.

him! Him! Throwing bottles. Journalist! You were throwing

:36:38.:36:42.

bottles! Yes! Lets talk to various England and

:36:43.:36:52.

Wales fans either out there or on their way at least. Billy Grant,

:36:53.:36:57.

let's start with you, where were you last night and what did you see?

:36:58.:37:02.

Last night I was in Lille, I got there yesterday afternoon at 1:30pm.

:37:03.:37:06.

Very chilled, nice, relaxed atmosphere when we arrived. Russia

:37:07.:37:10.

were playing Slovakia so most of the fans were in the stadium. But it was

:37:11.:37:16.

a very relaxed atmosphere. Very different to down south. Then

:37:17.:37:22.

afterwards, as time got on, as they came out of the stadium, I didn't

:37:23.:37:27.

go, but my colleague said he saw some activity. He saw some fights

:37:28.:37:33.

happening. He could tell there were tensions starting to rise. What I

:37:34.:37:38.

did yesterday to be honest, we headed out of it. We were in an area

:37:39.:37:41.

ten minutes walk from the main square, just round the corner. So it

:37:42.:37:47.

was easy to get away from it if you wanted to? Absolutely. Full of

:37:48.:37:51.

French and English where we were. No problems. To be honest you probably

:37:52.:37:57.

know more about what is going on in Lille than I do. It is all on social

:37:58.:38:01.

media so we can all catch up with what is happening. But I take your

:38:02.:38:06.

point, you could walk away and find perfectly friendly foreign

:38:07.:38:08.

supporters mingling together. Indeed. We filmed a documentary

:38:09.:38:17.

three months ago where we came out to Marseille and spoke to the

:38:18.:38:20.

Marseille culture is about England coming to Marseille for the first

:38:21.:38:24.

time since 98. Their point they said to us was, it was a long time ago,

:38:25.:38:31.

yes, but Marseille people never forget. Potentially a time for

:38:32.:38:35.

revenge. One personal point they said, they are very worried about

:38:36.:38:38.

this because the police are incompetent. Their way of policing

:38:39.:38:44.

us, they just ban us from matters. If we play PSG they won't let us go.

:38:45.:38:50.

If we go down to Lyon, we can't go there. That's their way of dealing

:38:51.:38:54.

with it, and they said it's rubbish, what will happen in the Euros, you

:38:55.:38:58.

cannot ban them. They believed they would not handle the fans. It is a

:38:59.:39:02.

pertinent issue, the way the police have been dealing with it,

:39:03.:39:07.

indiscriminately tear gas and people, putting people's backs up

:39:08.:39:10.

and stuff, there are people who may be doing other things but in general

:39:11.:39:15.

the travelling people are good, travelling people and the police do

:39:16.:39:19.

not deal with it in the same way our British police do. And that's the

:39:20.:39:23.

point some England supporters did make who were right in the centre of

:39:24.:39:28.

Lille. Thanks for the moment. Let's talk to some England fans who are

:39:29.:39:31.

travelling to watch their team hopefully win this afternoon. Louise

:39:32.:39:39.

is on a train from Paris. I am a Welsh van. I can see that, it is

:39:40.:39:44.

very clear. I am half English, half Welsh, but I have gone with Wales.

:39:45.:39:50.

OK, why? My grandfather played rugby for Wales. So we have always been

:39:51.:39:54.

told to support Wales. And what are your expectations for this

:39:55.:39:58.

afternoon? I went to the game in Bordeaux last week. So quite high

:39:59.:40:03.

now, I think we could do it. I wouldn't have said it before the

:40:04.:40:06.

tournament, but we played pretty well so we will definitely win. Or

:40:07.:40:12.

so we have got Ffion on a coachload of Welsh fans. Can you hear me or

:40:13.:40:18.

write? Hello, good morning. How are you feeling right now? Quite

:40:19.:40:26.

excited. On the bus from Paris to Lens, ten buses in convoy, excited.

:40:27.:40:32.

Are you happy Gareth Bale has wound up the England team and plenty of

:40:33.:40:36.

supporters by saying the Welsh players are more passionate than the

:40:37.:40:40.

English? Yeah, he's been great this week. He knows what to say. We are

:40:41.:40:45.

all very passionate fans. Couldn't agree more with him. Let me bring in

:40:46.:40:53.

Steve and Ian. You are both in Lille. What did you see last night?

:40:54.:40:58.

I got a completely different story from what everybody else has been

:40:59.:41:02.

saying for five or ten minutes. We were not in the centre of Lille, we

:41:03.:41:07.

were two or three Metro stops away, perhaps 20 minutes away I expect. We

:41:08.:41:11.

got a completely different atmosphere here. We were intending

:41:12.:41:17.

on staying in with a few drinks and watching the telly, but there were a

:41:18.:41:20.

couple of bars next door to us, great atmosphere and the locals were

:41:21.:41:26.

really good fun. We had a sing and dance afterwards outside. I managed

:41:27.:41:33.

to acquire some paraphernalia, got a French scarf here somewhere. Just

:41:34.:41:40.

really happy, fun atmosphere. You'd never know that violence was

:41:41.:41:44.

happening a couple of miles away in the centre. Ian, I wonder what you

:41:45.:41:48.

are expecting for this afternoon, then come in terms of the England

:41:49.:41:55.

and Wales fans getting together? England and Wales fans have already

:41:56.:41:58.

been together in the bars and there has been no trouble whatsoever. We

:41:59.:42:03.

are about a 15 minute walk away from the centre, watching the game last

:42:04.:42:07.

night and the atmosphere was fantastic. Full of French. No

:42:08.:42:17.

problems. Really good atmosphere. Lots of English and lots of

:42:18.:42:23.

different people, no trouble. Escorted from the railway station

:42:24.:42:26.

very quickly before we were back here at the hotel where we have been

:42:27.:42:31.

staying for the last four days. Steve, after the game is over,

:42:32.:42:37.

that's when people will carry on drinking and celebrating depending

:42:38.:42:43.

on what the outcome is, obviously. Do you think that it's going to stay

:42:44.:42:47.

friendly? Or does that depend on how the police behave? Bit of both, I.

:42:48.:42:54.

The English guys I've been speaking to the last couple of days, a couple

:42:55.:43:00.

last night as well, we just can't understand where the silence is

:43:01.:43:04.

coming from. I work with English people, I've got an English

:43:05.:43:07.

girlfriend, I don't see any animosity. We've just got that small

:43:08.:43:12.

element, wherever it is English Welsh, French Russian, who just want

:43:13.:43:18.

to have a bit of a fight. It is sad that it follows football around.

:43:19.:43:21.

Football is so big and they have attached themselves to it. The large

:43:22.:43:24.

majority of people will just have some friendly banter, Win, lose,

:43:25.:43:29.

whatever. But you will get that small element. And from what I've

:43:30.:43:31.

heard the French police have been quite heavy-handed. I can sympathise

:43:32.:43:37.

with them. They've got their city and country to look after. Perhaps

:43:38.:43:42.

with the terror threat as well. They've just had enough and want to

:43:43.:43:46.

be rid of us all. I think they lost patience a bit last night. Thank you

:43:47.:43:52.

all very much. Have a good time this afternoon. Thanks, we'll do. Thank

:43:53.:43:55.

you very much, all of you. The extraordinary account of one

:43:56.:44:02.

of the last surviving Second World War tank troop

:44:03.:44:05.

commanders - David Render tells us Next to Romania - walk into any

:44:06.:44:08.

school in that country and you're likely to find a fair few pupils

:44:09.:44:14.

whose parents are working abroad. Some schools even display posters

:44:15.:44:18.

urging adults to let the authorities know who will be looking

:44:19.:44:21.

after their children According to Save The Children,

:44:22.:44:23.

up to 350,000 children in Romania In around 40% of cases,

:44:24.:44:26.

both parents have left. EU migration laws allow Romanians

:44:27.:44:31.

to travel across Europe to find well-paid work - something that has

:44:32.:44:34.

become a big part of the debate Do any of you guys have mum or dad

:44:35.:44:37.

or both working overseas? One, two, three, four,

:44:38.:44:54.

five, six, seven, eight. Could you tell me where

:44:55.:45:01.

they are working? So this is the flight

:45:02.:45:02.

from London Luton to Becau Just about everyone works

:45:03.:45:16.

in the UK and is going back In terms of the difference

:45:17.:45:21.

between salaries and the life, it is at least three times better

:45:22.:45:30.

than back home. I got very used to the UK,

:45:31.:45:34.

so it is like my home now, so it is really when I am going back

:45:35.:45:43.

to Romania it feels like a holiday, In January 2014, Romanians gained

:45:44.:45:47.

the same rights to work in the UK Around 180,000 work in the UK

:45:48.:45:53.

at the moment and across the whole of the EU

:45:54.:45:58.

that is approximately 3 million. This part of Romania

:45:59.:46:08.

is the third-poorest region We are in north-east Romania now,

:46:09.:46:10.

the county of Vaslui. There is no industry, the roads

:46:11.:46:19.

and infrastructure is very poor. The authorities don't have enough

:46:20.:46:25.

money to invest, they have limited budget and on the other

:46:26.:46:35.

hand there is corruption They work on the land or build

:46:36.:46:37.

houses for those who earn enough Those that are qualified work

:46:38.:46:48.

elsewhere because here there are no We're heading to a town called

:46:49.:46:57.

Negresti, a town where much Around 200 have parents

:46:58.:47:05.

working overseas. Across Romania, Save The Children

:47:06.:47:23.

estimate there are 350,000 children They're usually left to live

:47:24.:47:26.

with the remaining parent or other So this is a poster put up

:47:27.:47:36.

by Save The Children and this means, "Have you told the town

:47:37.:47:44.

hall who you have left This is because sometimes parents go

:47:45.:47:47.

overseas and they don't let the authorities know who is supposed

:47:48.:47:51.

to be looking after So, how many people in here

:47:52.:47:53.

have a mum or dad working overseas? One, two, three, four,

:47:54.:47:59.

five, six, seven, eight. Can you tell me where

:48:00.:48:02.

they are working? It means I have to go home and do

:48:03.:48:05.

cleaning and cooking. You have to be

:48:06.:48:27.

a grown-up? What is the economic situation

:48:28.:48:29.

for people living here? In Negresti, for example,

:48:30.:48:41.

out of 7000 people only Because mainly

:48:42.:48:46.

salaries are very low. Wages are very low and if they have

:48:47.:49:03.

good qualifications they prefer to work abroad,

:49:04.:49:08.

where they are better paid and they have a better chance

:49:09.:49:13.

of supporting their families here. That means there are still 6000

:49:14.:49:17.

people here not working at all, Some of them are supported

:49:18.:49:20.

by the state and mainly most of them rely on the

:49:21.:49:24.

relatives working abroad. So what sort of problems do you see

:49:25.:49:28.

in the students whose The main problem is that some

:49:29.:49:31.

of them drop out of school, some of them get involved

:49:32.:49:39.

in all kinds of difficult situations for them,

:49:40.:49:42.

maybe drugs, prostitution. They become bullies

:49:43.:49:46.

because they lack their It is mainly the government's fault

:49:47.:49:52.

because they don't do enough I cannot judge the parents

:49:53.:50:03.

for going abroad, they are trying I'm not complaining,

:50:04.:50:12.

I'm just saying. I won't complain because if I do

:50:13.:50:24.

complain, nothing will change very soon, this is how things work

:50:25.:50:29.

in this part of the world. As long as the government doesn't do

:50:30.:50:34.

anything regarding the development of the area, nothing

:50:35.:50:39.

is going to change. He is not exaggerating,

:50:40.:50:44.

unemployment in this town is recorded at more than 80%,

:50:45.:50:53.

the population is around 7000. Over the last 20 years,

:50:54.:50:56.

around 3000 people left. This has become such an issue that

:50:57.:51:06.

Romania's Eurovision entry last year Because there are so many Romanian

:51:07.:51:08.

children with parents overseas, Save The Children have opened up 17

:51:09.:51:28.

centres like this one in schools across the country, and they offer

:51:29.:51:39.

things like help with homework and psychological support for people

:51:40.:51:43.

whose parents are not What sort of issues have

:51:44.:51:45.

you seen among the children? Starting with minor problems

:51:46.:51:52.

such as self-isolation, reluctance to communicate,

:51:53.:51:53.

to really severe psychological Unfortunately there are some tragic

:51:54.:51:57.

cases, fortunately just a few. People usually associate

:51:58.:52:01.

Save The Children's work with emergency work,

:52:02.:52:12.

children who are fleeing war This is just a missing parent,

:52:13.:52:13.

is it the same thing? Of course, it is very

:52:14.:52:19.

serious for these children. We have different crises from period

:52:20.:52:23.

to period, street children, economically exploited

:52:24.:52:25.

children, premature children. But this is a major crisis

:52:26.:52:30.

situation for these children. Do you miss your

:52:31.:52:35.

parents? The parents are away,

:52:36.:52:36.

we have a big gap. I have a better relationship

:52:37.:52:50.

with my mum who is overseas and now I am staying with my

:52:51.:52:57.

dad, it is just... Because I often argue with my dad,

:52:58.:53:01.

but that is OK, he loves me, Do you understand why

:53:02.:53:05.

they have to work overseas? Yes, because we need money

:53:06.:53:17.

and here we have no possibilities. If you were to say something

:53:18.:53:22.

to your mum about her going? I tell my mum that

:53:23.:53:27.

I love her and I want These are the critical

:53:28.:53:29.

years for normal, healthy They need that person,

:53:30.:54:06.

the closest person, which is the parent,

:54:07.:54:14.

to lean on and to communicate Emma is 18, both her parents

:54:15.:54:17.

and her brother live She says the only reason she has

:54:18.:54:36.

been able to stay in school in Romania is because her parents can

:54:37.:54:41.

support her with their British jobs. How is it having them

:54:42.:54:44.

work so far away? While we are speaking,

:54:45.:54:59.

Emma gets a call from her dad in Luton to tell her her mum has

:55:00.:55:02.

made her flight and she is coming Emma's mum Amelia has been in the UK

:55:03.:55:06.

for almost three years. She works

:55:07.:55:16.

for Amazon, her husband in a bakery. What does it feel like when you see

:55:17.:55:19.

your mum again for the first It is cool, you are matching,

:55:20.:55:22.

did you coordinate your outfits? How is it seeing each other

:55:23.:56:11.

after some time away? How much better was the wage

:56:12.:56:40.

you could get in Luton What I can get for one month,

:56:41.:56:56.

I have to work in Romania Do you understand that a lot

:56:57.:57:05.

of children left behind Do you feel any guilt

:57:06.:57:23.

for leaving her behind? I have motive, I do it

:57:24.:57:47.

for her to have good life. When she's finished school,

:57:48.:57:58.

Emma will join her family in Luton, where she will study

:57:59.:58:21.

to be a psychologist. And you can share that film

:58:22.:58:27.

by going to bbc.co.uk/victoria. Later in the programme we'll talk

:58:28.:58:32.

to one Romanian mum She's a window cleaner

:58:33.:58:35.

and her husband is a window fitter - both parents come to London to work

:58:36.:58:41.

for four to five months each year because they can earn

:58:42.:58:45.

much more money here than at home and they feel

:58:46.:58:47.

that they are providing a better The EU referendum vote

:58:48.:58:50.

is exactly ONE week away. Who's going to win -

:58:51.:59:01.

Remain or Leave? Once again we are looking at heavy

:59:02.:59:16.

showers, some of them will be torrential, thundery, slow-moving,

:59:17.:59:19.

and could lead to the risk of localised flooding. Mainly England

:59:20.:59:24.

and also Wales. In between the showers, there will be bright spells

:59:25.:59:28.

of sunshine. Showers across Northern Ireland, bright spells as well, and

:59:29.:59:32.

Scotland have rain or drizzle and a lot of cloud. For both Scotland and

:59:33.:59:37.

Northern Ireland it is a cool breeze so feel fresher, quite Mcgee keep

:59:38.:59:40.

you are stuck under one of those showers in England and Wales. If you

:59:41.:59:45.

are heading to Royal Ascot today, it is Ladies' Day, you may already be

:59:46.:59:50.

there, watching on the big screens, expect some showers, likely to be

:59:51.:59:54.

heavy and possibly country as well. That will continue through the

:59:55.:59:58.

evening but as we had overnight, lose the Thunder and lightning, some

:59:59.:00:02.

of the showers will fade, some rain still across eastern Scotland and

:00:03.:00:06.

North East England, it will not be particularly cold. That leads us

:00:07.:00:10.

into tomorrow, still wearing across eastern Scotland and North East

:00:11.:00:13.

England but more heavy, thunder showers in the South.

:00:14.:00:16.

Hello it's Thursday, it's 10 o clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

:00:17.:00:18.

At least 36 arrests and sixteen taken to hospital, as French police

:00:19.:00:23.

and English football fans clash in Lille.

:00:24.:00:30.

Riot police used tear gas and charged at hundreds of fans.

:00:31.:00:33.

England fans tell this programme that they want to try and restore

:00:34.:00:35.

We are just here just to enjoy it. So many people are here to enjoy it.

:00:36.:00:45.

England fans, Welsh fans, mixing amongst each other, cheering on our

:00:46.:00:50.

teams. That's what we should be concentrating on and hopefully

:00:51.:00:52.

today's the day we can restore some pride back in our country.

:00:53.:00:54.

A special report on the hundreds of thousands of children in Romania

:00:55.:00:57.

whose parents have left them behind to seek work abroad

:00:58.:01:00.

including here in the UK, we'll have reaction.

:01:01.:01:04.

How many people in here have a dad working overseas? OK, one, two,

:01:05.:01:12.

three, four, five, six, seven, eight. Can you tell me where they

:01:13.:01:15.

are working? Italy. England. Greece. It marked the beginning of the end

:01:16.:01:22.

of the Second World War - we hear from one of the last

:01:23.:01:25.

surviving British tank troop commanders to have taken part

:01:26.:01:28.

in the D-Day landings. We'll hear David's story

:01:29.:01:30.

after half ten this morning. Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

:01:31.:01:44.

with a summary of today's news. Some breaking news. Cliff Richard

:01:45.:01:57.

will not face charges over allegations of historic sex abuse,

:01:58.:02:00.

the Crown Prosecution Service has just announced. The CPS says it has

:02:01.:02:07.

carefully looked at claims relating to non-recent sexual cases. We will

:02:08.:02:13.

have more detail on that as it comes into us.

:02:14.:02:14.

36 people were arrested and 16 taken to hospital as French riot police

:02:15.:02:17.

clashed with England fans in the city of Lille last night.

:02:18.:02:20.

Supporters of England and Wales had been gathering there ahead

:02:21.:02:22.

of the crucial European Championship game between the teams

:02:23.:02:24.

this afternoon in the nearby town of Lens.

:02:25.:02:29.

The FA has called on England supporters to behave responsibly.

:02:30.:02:33.

With a week to go until voters decide whether the UK should stay

:02:34.:02:36.

in the European Union, both sides are focusing

:02:37.:02:39.

on the economy and migration as they hit the campaign trail today.

:02:40.:02:43.

Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell and former prime minister

:02:44.:02:47.

Gordon Brown will say that Labour could secure an extra ?35bn in EU

:02:48.:02:50.

Meanwhile, the Leave campaign is calling on David Cameron

:02:51.:02:56.

to promise that he would step in to stop Turkey from joining

:02:57.:02:59.

We'll be answering your questions on the EU Referendum to give

:03:00.:03:04.

you the facts throughout the day with our BBC experts.

:03:05.:03:06.

If you have a question on the economy, immigration,

:03:07.:03:08.

Chancellor Ken Clarke, who wants Britain to remain

:03:09.:03:14.

in the EU will also be answering your questions at 1130

:03:15.:03:17.

And at 17:30 today, The UKIP Leader, Nigel Farage who wants us

:03:18.:03:27.

to leave the EU will be taking your questions.

:03:28.:03:32.

You can get in touch via Twitter using the hashtag BBC Ask This,

:03:33.:03:35.

Thousands of children have been left behind in Romania,

:03:36.:03:39.

by parents who are working abroad - many in the UK.

:03:40.:03:44.

Save the Children Romania says that 350,000 young people there have

:03:45.:03:50.

at least one parent working abroad, while four in ten are living

:03:51.:03:53.

EU migration laws allow Romanian adults to travel

:03:54.:03:56.

The possession and personal use of illegal drugs should be

:03:57.:04:03.

decriminalised in the UK, according to two leading

:04:04.:04:05.

The Royal Society for Public Health, and the Faculty of Public Health,

:04:06.:04:11.

say the government's approach to drugs policy has failed,

:04:12.:04:13.

and there should be more focus on treatment and education.

:04:14.:04:16.

The Home Office has defended its record,

:04:17.:04:17.

saying drug abuse has fallen in the last decade.

:04:18.:04:21.

Russia has been accused of trying to stop officials from carrying out

:04:22.:04:24.

The World Anti-Doping Agency says Russian security services have

:04:25.:04:29.

Russia is due to find out tomorrow if it will be allowed to send

:04:30.:04:37.

competitors to international competitions, including

:04:38.:04:38.

People calling the 111 NHS patient helpline are waiting too

:04:39.:04:41.

long in some areas - and are even being put at risk -

:04:42.:04:44.

The Care Quality Commission found that patients who needed emergency

:04:45.:04:52.

care in the South West of England were being "consistently failed".

:04:53.:04:57.

We were concerned about the safety of the service, largely related to

:04:58.:05:07.

how long it was taking to respond to calls, and therefore calls might be

:05:08.:05:12.

abandoned. Echo some of those calls might genuinely be urgent calls and

:05:13.:05:16.

might therefore not be getting through to the right service

:05:17.:05:25.

entirely. The Met office is warning of flooding. Showers like this are

:05:26.:05:29.

expected in the south and west. That's a summary of the latest BBC

:05:30.:05:35.

News - more at 10.30. Just bringing you the breaking news

:05:36.:05:46.

to do with Cliff Richard. He will not face charges over allegations of

:05:47.:05:51.

historic sex abuse. That's just in from the Crown Prosecution Service.

:05:52.:05:55.

Cliff Richard who has spent two years under investigation will not

:05:56.:05:59.

face charges over allegations of historic sex abuse. The statement

:06:00.:06:05.

here is from the Chief Crown is a judo for Yorkshire and Humberside,

:06:06.:06:09.

Martin Goldman. He says the CPS has carefully reviewed evidence relating

:06:10.:06:11.

to claims of non-recent sexual offences dating between 1958 and

:06:12.:06:20.

1983 made by four men. We've decided that there is insufficient evidence

:06:21.:06:23.

to prosecute. This decision has been made in accordance with the code for

:06:24.:06:28.

Crown prosecutors and our guidance for prosecutors on cases of sexual

:06:29.:06:32.

offences. The CPS worked with police during the investigation. This has

:06:33.:06:36.

helped minimise the time needed to reach a decision once we received

:06:37.:06:41.

the complete file of evidence on the 10th of May. The complainants have

:06:42.:06:45.

been informed and provided with a full explanation in writing. The CPS

:06:46.:06:50.

saying they only got the full file of evidence from the police on the

:06:51.:06:54.

10th of May and weeks later they have made a decision that Cliff

:06:55.:06:58.

Richard will not be prosecuted for allegations of non-recent sexual

:06:59.:07:03.

abuse. Much more reaction to that to come in the next hour. Sport now

:07:04.:07:06.

with Sally in Paris. The day is finally here when the

:07:07.:07:15.

draw for this European Championship made was back in December, England

:07:16.:07:19.

against Wales in Lens was the one everybody noticed. Now we are here a

:07:20.:07:24.

couple of hours before kick-off and after a Welsh victory over Russia

:07:25.:07:28.

and England's disappointing draw, stakes could not be higher. Lots of

:07:29.:07:33.

talk before the game, now time for action. Many people in England and

:07:34.:07:37.

Great Britain certainly looking forward to this game. We certainly

:07:38.:07:42.

are and perhaps even around the world, the fact that it is a game

:07:43.:07:47.

between brothers, if you like. It adds spice to it, adds interest. And

:07:48.:07:53.

that's something which I can only welcome, really. If anything it

:07:54.:07:59.

heightens the occasion rather than lessons it. Whatever's going on

:08:00.:08:02.

around England and there's a lot going on around England, a lot

:08:03.:08:06.

expected of them because they've had great players down the years,

:08:07.:08:09.

there's been a lot of expectancy around England any time they come in

:08:10.:08:13.

to a tournament, there's expectancy, a lot of pressure on England. That's

:08:14.:08:19.

what I meant, we didn't want to get caught up with that. As soon as this

:08:20.:08:23.

game was on the menu, you know what is coming before the start. It's not

:08:24.:08:30.

all about England and Wales today, Northern Ireland have a crucial game

:08:31.:08:35.

against Ukraine in Lyon. Our correspondence Katie Cornel is

:08:36.:08:39.

there. After the Irish lost their opening match to Poland, this really

:08:40.:08:42.

is make or break for them. That's right. An awful lot riding on this

:08:43.:08:49.

for Northern Ireland's players. When they walk out of this tunnel later

:08:50.:08:54.

and into this impressive stadium in Lyon, they know their best hopes of

:08:55.:08:57.

progressing from the group rest on what happens out here on this pitch

:08:58.:09:02.

later against Ukraine. The teams coming to this having lost their

:09:03.:09:07.

opening matches. They know this is their best hope of getting some

:09:08.:09:12.

points on the board later. Speaking to Michael O'Neill, the Northern

:09:13.:09:15.

Ireland manager, about this, he described it as a cup final. He said

:09:16.:09:18.

his team are really enjoying their taste of the Euros, the first major

:09:19.:09:22.

tournament in 30 years, and says they are not ready to go home yet.

:09:23.:09:27.

Lost the first game, I think there is a natural fear of, when do you go

:09:28.:09:31.

home? I think other countries will feel the same. We have to make sure

:09:32.:09:36.

that our motivating factor and I've no doubt it will be. We love our

:09:37.:09:40.

base, we want to stay there as long as we can, so we do. We want to make

:09:41.:09:48.

sure that tomorrow night will be played like a cup final because we

:09:49.:09:54.

know the significance of three points. This is the dugout where

:09:55.:09:58.

Michael O'Neill will be watching later, and he will hope to see an

:09:59.:10:02.

improved performance from the one he saw against Poland. Northern Ireland

:10:03.:10:05.

did not manage a shot on target in that game. I think we can expect

:10:06.:10:10.

them to be on the front foot later against Poland to be more positive

:10:11.:10:13.

and come out of their shell of it. They face a tough task against

:10:14.:10:17.

Ukraine who lost their opening game to Germany, but only just. They ran

:10:18.:10:23.

the world champions close for about 90 minutes. Northern Ireland will

:10:24.:10:25.

need to match them physically out here and they will not be short of

:10:26.:10:30.

support. We are expecting 18,000 Northern Irish fans in this stadium.

:10:31.:10:35.

They have taken over Lyon. They know this is a match their team

:10:36.:10:38.

realistically cannot afford to lose. We wish them and you well. That is

:10:39.:10:43.

all the sport from Paris, now back to you, Victoria. More now on the

:10:44.:10:48.

news that Sir Cliff Richard has been told that he will not face any

:10:49.:10:54.

charges when it comes to non-historic sexual abuse. Let's

:10:55.:11:00.

bring in our home affairs correspondent Danny Shaw. Let's be

:11:01.:11:05.

clear what is happening. We had a statement from the Crown Prosecution

:11:06.:11:07.

Service and I will read the main points of the statement. It says

:11:08.:11:11.

that no further action will be taken against a 75-year-old man, we know

:11:12.:11:16.

that is Sir Cliff Richard, in relation to allegations of

:11:17.:11:21.

non-recent sexual abuse. The CPS has closely looked into claims of sexual

:11:22.:11:30.

abuse made by four men between 1975 and 1988, and decided there is no

:11:31.:11:35.

evidence to prosecute. The CPS has made the decision once it had the

:11:36.:11:38.

full file of evidence quite quickly. It received the full file at the

:11:39.:11:42.

beginning of May so the final decision has not taken long. But it

:11:43.:11:45.

has been working with the police for many months. The decision did not

:11:46.:11:49.

come to them cold, they knew what this investigation was about. I

:11:50.:11:54.

think there will now be some serious questions for the police in

:11:55.:11:57.

particular about why this has taken so long. Sir Cliff Richard's

:11:58.:12:02.

apartment in Berkshire was raided, searched by police back in August

:12:03.:12:07.

2000 14. That was some while after South Yorkshire Police were given

:12:08.:12:12.

this case to investigate. Almost two years. Two years. And for a decision

:12:13.:12:18.

to take that long, it is not unprecedented, but it is quite

:12:19.:12:22.

unusual. Having said that, these are complex matters because they relate

:12:23.:12:25.

to events that happened many, many years ago. Tracking down witnesses,

:12:26.:12:30.

trying to find documentary evidence that might prove or disprove the

:12:31.:12:34.

allegations, takes a long time. So these are cases that can't be dealt

:12:35.:12:40.

with speedily in a matter of weeks. Nevertheless there will be

:12:41.:12:42.

questioned as to how long it has taken. The allegations dated between

:12:43.:12:51.

1958 and 1983 made by four men. Do we know any more detail about the

:12:52.:12:54.

nature of the allegations those four were making? We don't other than the

:12:55.:12:57.

fact they were alleged sexual offences. But slightly confusingly

:12:58.:13:02.

is that at the time this all emerged two years ago, we were told one of

:13:03.:13:09.

the allegations concerned an alleged sexual assault at a religious event

:13:10.:13:15.

at the Bramall Lane stadium in 1985, that is not the time the Crown

:13:16.:13:21.

prosecution are looking at. Whether there has been a mistake or the

:13:22.:13:24.

recollection of a complainant has been wrong is something we will have

:13:25.:13:28.

to find out. But there is a slight difference in the timings of this. I

:13:29.:13:32.

think it's another important thing to say, this isn't necessarily the

:13:33.:13:36.

end of the matter. The Crown Prosecution Service makes that quite

:13:37.:13:40.

clear in its statement. It says CPS prosecutors must also keep every

:13:41.:13:45.

case under review. If appropriate the CPS may change the charges or

:13:46.:13:49.

stop a case. Clearly there have been no charges so far. But every

:13:50.:13:53.

complainant has the right to review the decision not to bring charges.

:13:54.:13:58.

That's a new procedure brought in by the Crown Prosecution Service within

:13:59.:14:02.

the last couple of years. If the complainants in this case wanted a

:14:03.:14:06.

review of the decision the CPS has made, they are entitled to that

:14:07.:14:11.

review. We do not have a statement yet from Cliff Richard nor his

:14:12.:14:16.

agent. One could imagine that he will presumably be feeling relief

:14:17.:14:18.

and a lot of anger? I would have thought so. He was very angry about

:14:19.:14:23.

the way the whole case unfolded, the publicity attached to it. The BBC

:14:24.:14:29.

was filming the raid as the police were carrying out the raid on his

:14:30.:14:33.

Berkshire apartment. Yes, the BBC sent a helicopter to film the raid,

:14:34.:14:37.

some of it was broadcast live on the BBC. I think there will now be

:14:38.:14:41.

serious questions for the BBC in terms of its coverage. No doubt they

:14:42.:14:45.

will justify that in saying this was a matter of public interest, there

:14:46.:14:49.

was an ongoing police investigation that led to a very compact enquiry

:14:50.:14:55.

and a file being passed to the CPS. The fact no charges were brought

:14:56.:14:59.

will now put scrutiny back on the BBC, I have no doubt about that.

:15:00.:15:04.

Thank you for the moment, Danny Shaw, our home affairs

:15:05.:15:06.

correspondent. More reaction throughout the programme.

:15:07.:15:08.

There's exactly one week to go before you decide whether Britain

:15:09.:15:11.

remains in or leaves the European Union.

:15:12.:15:13.

If you're one of the undecideds, you are probably the most important

:15:14.:15:18.

people in Britain right now because you could swing

:15:19.:15:20.

Here's a quick film, which does contain some strobing images.

:15:21.:15:30.

There's one week to go and we are heading to the moment of peak

:15:31.:15:38.

campaign. That down to. Airy fairy. What matters is. The United Kingdom.

:15:39.:15:40.

All of which is to remain. There are still people who are

:15:41.:15:54.

undecided. Lee's claim immigrants are a squeeze

:15:55.:16:11.

on public services like the NHS. Remain camp immigrants benefit the

:16:12.:16:14.

UK economy and pay more in taxes than they take out.

:16:15.:16:32.

There is so much information on so many topics, I don't know where to

:16:33.:16:39.

start. Have a look at the BBC News website,

:16:40.:16:42.

take a few minutes to read each topic and decide who you believe

:16:43.:16:47.

more. As an undecided voters you could

:16:48.:16:50.

swing the result is away. But you have to make your mind up, you have

:16:51.:16:51.

less than a week. Let's now talk to Political

:16:52.:17:04.

Scientist and Polling expert Professor John

:17:05.:17:06.

Curtice and Professor of Political Science

:17:07.:17:08.

at the London School Who do you think will win? 24 hours

:17:09.:17:18.

ago I would have said the balance of problem -- balance of probability

:17:19.:17:22.

was with Remain but it is increasingly moving in the direction

:17:23.:17:27.

of Leave. In the last hour or so we have had another poll released by

:17:28.:17:31.

its loss Morrie, done over the phone, and hitherto phone polls have

:17:32.:17:37.

been saying that Remain were ahead. There have been methodological

:17:38.:17:39.

changes which in part perhaps account for the result but only in

:17:40.:17:43.

part, but if Foss Morrie also saying that Leave are ahead by about 53% to

:17:44.:17:49.

47% and even if we now allow for the fact that maybe referendum opinion

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polls have a tendency to overestimate things, today's polls

:17:59.:18:06.

suggest there will not be the slingback at the end, but we may be

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getting close to a situation where the odds on either side winning are

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very close to 50%. I just want to be clear about what you are saying

:18:17.:18:19.

today, bearing in mind that latest poll that you have looked at. You

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saying the balance of probability is suggesting to you still that it is a

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Remain win? I'm saying the probabilities are sufficiently close

:18:32.:18:34.

to 50-50 and I don't think there are many people out there who will want

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to call it. We will get another poll at 12pm which may clarify things

:18:39.:18:42.

further but public opinion during the course of the last two or three

:18:43.:18:46.

weeks, having been extraordinarily stable throughout the course of the

:18:47.:18:50.

referendum campaign, has, according to both phone and Internet polls,

:18:51.:18:54.

swung fairly substantially to war three point at least in favour of

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Leave. Simon Hix, who do you believe will win next Thursday? The momentum

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is with the Leave campaign, it has had a successful week, the Remain

:19:06.:19:09.

campaign seems to have shot its guns and does not have much left. Scare

:19:10.:19:14.

tactics don't seem to be working, the Remain campaign has failed to

:19:15.:19:18.

explain how staying in the EU will allow immigration to come down or

:19:19.:19:23.

how they will address continued high-level for of immigration in

:19:24.:19:26.

terms of public services, and they have failed to articulated a clear

:19:27.:19:28.

vision of Britain taking a leadership role in the EU and a

:19:29.:19:33.

positive vision of Britain remaining in the EU. We have seen a turn in

:19:34.:19:37.

the campaign with Leave looking like they have a more positive vision of

:19:38.:19:41.

Britain's future outside the EU and Remain having not a very positive

:19:42.:19:46.

vision. John Curtice, bearing in mind how sceptical we are after the

:19:47.:19:50.

polls got it wrong at last year's general election, tell us what the

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phone and online polls are suggesting? If you take the average

:19:54.:19:58.

of all of the online polls since the 27th of May, since we were into

:19:59.:20:02.

powder, which seems to have been the crucial point... Just remind our

:20:03.:20:12.

audience what purdah means. I was going to! It is the point at which

:20:13.:20:17.

the Government has no longer access to the silver service machine to

:20:18.:20:20.

create paper such as that which claims who will be worse off by 2030

:20:21.:20:25.

is we vote to leave, since both sides have had to rely on their own

:20:26.:20:29.

campaigning resources, since then the Internet polls have, on average,

:20:30.:20:35.

across the range, about a dozen of them, put lead on 52, remain on 48,

:20:36.:20:46.

phone polls on the same period put similar, but the later we have gone

:20:47.:20:51.

it has got better the Leave and was full Remain. The crucial thing is,

:20:52.:20:56.

have we reached a point at which the movement. Or is it something that is

:20:57.:21:01.

going to continue further? If it continues further then Remain will

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be in serious trouble. If it stops maybe they can claw things back.

:21:06.:21:09.

Something that Simon has just said, I think what today's poll in

:21:10.:21:13.

particular underlines, it was evidenced in polls at the weekend,

:21:14.:21:17.

that the public frankly have decided they do not believe many of the

:21:18.:21:21.

claims made by the Remain side about what the consequences of leaving

:21:22.:21:25.

will be, in particular only around one in five said they believe we

:21:26.:21:33.

will be ?340,000 worth of by 2030 if we stay, and it may be that remain

:21:34.:21:37.

have cried wolf too often and have lost credibility in the eyes of the

:21:38.:21:42.

crucial section of the British electorate. Simon, if Leave win, and

:21:43.:21:53.

they get 51%, and Remain are on 49%, what will be Remain side do, ask for

:21:54.:21:58.

a recount? I think it will be seen as the public have made a decision,

:21:59.:22:02.

I think we have moved to a conception in British politics about

:22:03.:22:05.

popular will and popular sovereignty so the chat about Parliament

:22:06.:22:08.

overturning a result of the referendum, even though a majority

:22:09.:22:11.

of the House of Commons would probably like to stay in the EU, I

:22:12.:22:16.

think they would accept it as an outcome, and the big question is

:22:17.:22:22.

then what happens to David Cameron, the leaderships of the major

:22:23.:22:24.

parties... There would be some political chaos. If Leave win by a

:22:25.:22:31.

couple of percent, what do you predict will happen? The answer is

:22:32.:22:37.

we will be out of the European Union with it being negotiated by either

:22:38.:22:42.

Boris Johnson or Michael Gove, David Cameron will not survive very long,

:22:43.:22:45.

neither will the Chancellor, George Osborne. One of the difficulties he

:22:46.:22:49.

faced yesterday with his attempt to suggest that leaving would be

:22:50.:22:52.

disastrous when he said he would have an emergency budget in which he

:22:53.:22:59.

would have to raise taxes, 68 MP said, we would not back you, you

:23:00.:23:02.

would not get the budget through, and the reaction is that frankly,

:23:03.:23:06.

George, if the UK votes to leave, you will not be around to deliver

:23:07.:23:10.

any kind of budget at all. Thank you very much, John Curtice and Simon

:23:11.:23:15.

Hix, for coming on the programme. We have a statement from Sir Cliff

:23:16.:23:19.

Richard, who has learned this morning, alongside the media, that

:23:20.:23:23.

he will not face any charges for those allegations of historic sexual

:23:24.:23:29.

abuse. This is what Sir Cliff Richard has said: After almost two

:23:30.:23:34.

years under police investigation I learned today that they have finally

:23:35.:23:37.

closed their inquiries. I have always maintained by

:23:38.:23:41.

innocents, co-operated fully with the investigation, and cannot

:23:42.:23:43.

understand why it has taken so long to get to this point! Nevertheless,

:23:44.:23:49.

I am thrilled that the vile accusations and resulting

:23:50.:23:51.

investigation have finally been brought to a close. Ever since the

:23:52.:23:56.

highly publicised and BBC filmed raid on my home, I have chosen not

:23:57.:24:01.

to speak publicly, even though I was under pressure to speak out, other

:24:02.:24:05.

than to state my innocence, which was easy for me to do as I have

:24:06.:24:11.

never molested anyone in my life. I chose to remain sided despite the

:24:12.:24:15.

widely shared sense of injustice resulting from the high-profile

:24:16.:24:19.

fumbling of my case from day one. Other than in exceptional cases,

:24:20.:24:23.

people facing allegations should never be named publicly until

:24:24.:24:28.

charged. I was named before I was even interviewed, and, for me, it

:24:29.:24:32.

was like being hung out like live bait. It is obvious that such

:24:33.:24:39.

strategies simply increase the risk of attracting spurious claims which

:24:40.:24:43.

not only type of police resources and waste public funds but brother

:24:44.:24:46.

tarnish the reputation of innocent people.

:24:47.:24:51.

The statement goes on: There have been numerous occasions in recent

:24:52.:24:54.

years where this has occurred and I feel strongly that no innocent

:24:55.:24:57.

person should be treated this way. I know the truth and in some people's

:24:58.:25:01.

eyes the CPS announcement today does not go far enough because it does

:25:02.:25:05.

not expressly state that I am innocent, which, of course, I am,

:25:06.:25:10.

and therein lies the problem. My reputation will not be fully

:25:11.:25:14.

vindicated because the CPS' policy is to only say something general

:25:15.:25:17.

about insufficient evidence. How can there evidence for something

:25:18.:25:41.

that never took place? This is also a reason why people should never be

:25:42.:25:44.

named publicly until they are charged unless there are exceptional

:25:45.:25:46.

circumstances. To my fans and members of the public, to the press

:25:47.:25:49.

and media, all of whom have shown me such encouraging and wonderful

:25:50.:25:51.

support, I would like to say thank you. It would have been so much

:25:52.:25:53.

harder without you. A pretty furious statement from Sir

:25:54.:25:55.

Cliff Richard, he says he is thrilled that the vile accusations

:25:56.:25:57.

and investigation had been brought to a close, he states several times

:25:58.:26:00.

that he should never have been named and people should not be named

:26:01.:26:03.

unless and until charged, and he worries that his reputation will

:26:04.:26:06.

forever be tarnished. The former Prime Minister Gordon

:26:07.:26:09.

Brown and Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell are giving a speech this

:26:10.:26:13.

morning in Manchester on why staying in the European Union is better for

:26:14.:26:16.

Britain's biggest cities outside London. In a moment we will speak to

:26:17.:26:23.

Norman Smith but first let's have a. Exploited by a company employing

:26:24.:26:27.

foreign workers so that good workers are not undercut by the bad and just

:26:28.:26:32.

as the Dutch have got new laws so do the European Labour and Socialist

:26:33.:26:35.

groups want murals with minimum standards across Europe. Let's make

:26:36.:26:40.

sure that we say to people, if you go to Remain the Labour Party will

:26:41.:26:43.

campaign for minimum standards across Europe, the Tories will not

:26:44.:26:48.

protect 0-hours contract workers but fighting in Europe and let us tell

:26:49.:26:52.

them that we can and we will. And what is the objection of the Brexit

:26:53.:27:00.

people? What are they saying? Leave Europe, join the world. But does the

:27:01.:27:05.

world want us to leave Europe and join the world? America says, stay

:27:06.:27:11.

with Europe! Australia says, stay with Europe! The Commonwealth says,

:27:12.:27:16.

stay with Europe! Every country I know, Albania, Michael Gove mentions

:27:17.:27:20.

them of wanting us to join them, even the Prime Minister of Albania

:27:21.:27:25.

said, stay with Europe! Only Donald Trump, the only person selling it is

:27:26.:27:29.

better for us to leave Europe, of any of the International leaders I

:27:30.:27:42.

know, and there has been a poll in the United States of America as to

:27:43.:27:45.

what a trump presidency would mean for them, 70% said it would make

:27:46.:27:47.

them more insecure, 30% said it would make them Canadians! Trump was

:27:48.:27:50.

asked, who are the three greatest Americans in history, he said the

:27:51.:27:52.

other two are Abraham Lincoln and George Washington.

:27:53.:27:54.

You know what the Brexit people want? They want someone to blame, to

:27:55.:27:58.

blame Europe for problems they have caused themselves. I knew the

:27:59.:28:03.

president of Brazil, he said, when I was a shop steward and people told

:28:04.:28:08.

me and asked me what is wrong with Brazil, who is to blame? I said, the

:28:09.:28:13.

Government. Then I became trade union secretary, and I still said,

:28:14.:28:17.

the Government. Then I became Leader of the Opposition and I would still

:28:18.:28:21.

say, the Government. Then he said, I became the Government, and who did I

:28:22.:28:25.

blame? He said, America! Let's leave Gordon Brown there.

:28:26.:28:30.

Norman, you have been listening to the speech, he is very animated.

:28:31.:28:36.

Yes, the hope for the Remain camp is Gordon Brown can recapture energy

:28:37.:28:40.

among the Labour vote as he did in the Scottish independence referendum

:28:41.:28:43.

so he has been out a lot fronting up the Labour fightback today, in

:28:44.:28:48.

Manchester delay, important because he is a blog, Jeremy Corbyn, John

:28:49.:28:53.

McDonald is with him, there is a push by the Labour Party to rescue

:28:54.:28:56.

the vote in the northern heartlands because when you talk to Labour MPs

:28:57.:29:00.

they are in panic stations about what is going on in the northern

:29:01.:29:03.

constituencies, especially in the most loyal wards, where they say the

:29:04.:29:09.

response on the doorstep is pretty much, we are leaving, that is it.

:29:10.:29:15.

Why? The argument seems to be that all this talk about economic doom if

:29:16.:29:20.

we leave the EU, and a lot of Labour bug, not just immigration, but they

:29:21.:29:24.

take the view that they have endured years of austerity, pay cuts,

:29:25.:29:29.

benefits cut, spending squeezes, and they think, how much worse can it

:29:30.:29:33.

get? Labour MPs are finding it difficult to home the message

:29:34.:29:43.

through, which is why they have wheeled out Gordon Brown to try to

:29:44.:29:46.

make a more positive pitch, so his argument, he put it again and again

:29:47.:29:48.

in his speeches, is that Europe benefits ordinary folk in terms of

:29:49.:29:50.

creating jobs through the single market, in terms of employment

:29:51.:29:53.

rights, guaranteeing things that maternity pay, holiday leave, that

:29:54.:29:58.

sort of thing, and in terms of the future, too, he says with greater

:29:59.:30:02.

integration in the single market in areas like services and digital

:30:03.:30:06.

areas, whom areas for Britain, there would be more jobs here as a result

:30:07.:30:11.

of being part of the EU, so they are relying on Gordon Brown to rescue

:30:12.:30:14.

some of the Labour vote. Vote Leave today saying the Treasury

:30:15.:30:18.

and the Bank of England's forecast of Sony, which means they can,

:30:19.:30:22.

false, not telling the truth, a serious allegation?

:30:23.:30:28.

What is extraordinary about it, you might have expected the wild men of

:30:29.:30:36.

the Brexit campaign to run amok and accuse them of being part of a

:30:37.:30:40.

conspiracy, but these accusations are coming from pillars of the

:30:41.:30:44.

establishment. Nigel Lawson, Norman Lamont, Michael Howard. I mean, they

:30:45.:30:49.

are in effect accusing the governor of the Bank of England of being part

:30:50.:30:54.

of some sort of deliberate stitch up by the government. That is a hugely

:30:55.:31:01.

incendiary charge to make. And ready we've heard from Downing Street

:31:02.:31:06.

saying hang on a just hang on a sec, because these institutions, we are

:31:07.:31:09.

still going to need them after the referendum and they have to be above

:31:10.:31:14.

politics, the on politics, they have to be independent and impartial.

:31:15.:31:18.

There is a slight feeling of a scorched earth strategy, we are

:31:19.:31:24.

going to take out all our critics. The Leave say these guys have been

:31:25.:31:28.

wrong before. They are trying to pitch this referendum is the

:31:29.:31:32.

ordinary folk take on the establishment, the elite, such as

:31:33.:31:35.

the bank. Cheers, thank you very much. Breaking news in the last

:31:36.:31:40.

half-hour that Sir Cliff Richard will face no further action over

:31:41.:31:46.

allegations of historical sex abuse. He says he's thrilled. He says the

:31:47.:31:51.

accusations were vile. He's had an apology just in from South Yorkshire

:31:52.:31:56.

Police, not for the investigation, but South Yorkshire Police saying

:31:57.:32:00.

they are sorry, wholeheartedly, for the additional anxiety caused to Sir

:32:01.:32:04.

Cliff Richard by the Force's initial handling of the media interest of

:32:05.:32:09.

its investigation into the singer, clearly referring to the fact that

:32:10.:32:13.

the BBC knew that South Yorkshire Police were about to read Sir Cliff

:32:14.:32:19.

Richard's Berkshire apartment. South Yorkshire Police apologising

:32:20.:32:21.

wholeheartedly for the additional anxiety caused to Sir Cliff Richard

:32:22.:32:27.

by the force's initial handling of the media interest of its

:32:28.:32:29.

investigation into the singer. It was a night to forget for many

:32:30.:32:31.

England football fans In a moment we'll be

:32:32.:32:33.

asking what the FA's And, the extraordinary account

:32:34.:32:36.

of one of the last surviving Second World War tank troop

:32:37.:32:40.

commanders, David Render With the News here's Annita

:32:41.:32:42.

in the BBC Newsroom Thank you and good morning. Sir

:32:43.:33:01.

Cliff Richard says he's thrilled he will face no further action over

:33:02.:33:03.

allegations of historical sex abuse. The CPS says it has "carefully

:33:04.:33:11.

reviewed" evidence relating to claims of sexual offences

:33:12.:33:13.

between 1958 and 1983 In a statement, Sir Cliff Richard

:33:14.:33:16.

said he was "thrilled that the vile accusations had finally been

:33:17.:33:23.

brought to a close". South Yorkshire Police has

:33:24.:33:29.

apologised wholeheartedly for their handling of media interest in the

:33:30.:33:30.

enquiry. 36 people were arrested and 16 taken

:33:31.:33:32.

to hospital as French riot police clashed with England fans

:33:33.:33:35.

in the city of Lille last night. Supporters of England and Wales had

:33:36.:33:37.

been gathering there ahead of the European Championship game

:33:38.:33:40.

between the teams this afternoon The FA has called on England

:33:41.:33:42.

supporters to behave responsibly. With a week to go until voters

:33:43.:33:49.

decide whether the UK should stay in the European Union,

:33:50.:33:55.

both sides are focusing on the economy and migration

:33:56.:33:57.

on the campaign trail today. The former prime

:33:58.:34:00.

minister Gordon Brown - in a speech in Manchester -

:34:01.:34:02.

has warned that leaving the European Union risks pushing

:34:03.:34:04.

some of the UK's biggest cities Meanwhile, four senior Conservative

:34:05.:34:07.

figures have accused the Bank of England and the Treasury

:34:08.:34:10.

of "peddling phoney forecasts to frighten the electorate"

:34:11.:34:12.

into voting to stay in the EU. We'll be answering your questions

:34:13.:34:22.

on the EU Referendum to give you the facts throughout the day

:34:23.:34:25.

with our BBC experts. If you have a question

:34:26.:34:27.

on the economy, immigration, Chancellor Ken Clarke,

:34:28.:34:29.

who wants Britain to remain in the EU will also be

:34:30.:34:36.

answering your questions at 1130 And at Five thirty today,

:34:37.:34:38.

The UKIP Leader, Nigel Farage who wants us to leave the EU will be

:34:39.:34:42.

taking your questions. You can get in touch via Twitter

:34:43.:34:45.

using the hashtag BBC Ask This The possession and personal use

:34:46.:34:48.

of illegal drugs should be decriminalised in the UK,

:34:49.:34:55.

according to two leading The Royal Society for

:34:56.:34:57.

Public Health, and the Faculty of Public Health, say

:34:58.:35:05.

the government's approach to drugs policy has failed,

:35:06.:35:07.

and there should be more focus The Home Office has

:35:08.:35:10.

defended its record, saying drug abuse has fallen

:35:11.:35:12.

in the last decade. People calling the 111 NHS patient

:35:13.:35:14.

helpline are waiting too long in some areas -

:35:15.:35:17.

and are even being put at risk - The Care Quality Commission found

:35:18.:35:20.

that patients who needed emergency care in the South West

:35:21.:35:26.

of England were being The Met office warns of possible

:35:27.:35:38.

flash flooding in parts of the UK today. Fund re-heavy showers like

:35:39.:35:44.

this are expected in parts of the West and the South of England --

:35:45.:35:50.

thundery and heavy showers. They could be slow-moving although the

:35:51.:35:53.

wet weather will be localised. Hopefully you can stay dry.

:35:54.:35:55.

That's a summary of the latest news, join me for BBC Newsroom

:35:56.:35:58.

Good morning. It's the day a large proportion of the country have been

:35:59.:36:09.

waiting for, England against Wales in Lens kicks off at 2pm. England

:36:10.:36:15.

really can't afford another slip-up after only drawing their opening

:36:16.:36:19.

match. Wales know they can qualify for the knockout phase with a win.

:36:20.:36:24.

Big day for Northern Ireland. They lost their opening match against

:36:25.:36:29.

Poland. They face Ukraine in Lyon later and cannot afford another

:36:30.:36:34.

defeat. Last night hosts France made it into the last 16 with their

:36:35.:36:37.

second victory. They left it late, though. Injury time goals from

:36:38.:36:43.

Antoine Grisman and West Ham's Dimitri Payet gave them a 2-0

:36:44.:36:49.

victory over Albania. Eddie Jones has named his team for the second

:36:50.:36:53.

test with Australia in Melbourne on Saturday. George North returns as

:36:54.:36:58.

fly half with Farrell on the wing. And those are your sports headlines.

:36:59.:37:06.

Hundreds of thousands of children in Romania have parents working abroad.

:37:07.:37:13.

Some schools even display posters urging adults to let the authorities

:37:14.:37:16.

know who will be looking after their children

:37:17.:37:17.

According to Save The Children, up to 350,000 children in Romania

:37:18.:37:21.

In around 40% of cases, both parents have left.

:37:22.:37:24.

Earlier we brought you Catrin Nye's full report on the children left

:37:25.:37:27.

Before we talk to one mother who's in this situation,

:37:28.:37:31.

So how many people in here have a mum or dad working overseas? This

:37:32.:37:41.

school has 1200 pupils. Around 200 have parents working abroad. Across

:37:42.:37:46.

remain near Save the Children estimate that there are roughly

:37:47.:37:49.

hundred and 50,000 children with a parent overseas. 40% with both.

:37:50.:37:55.

Where are your parents working? Italy. We are in a town in eastern

:37:56.:38:01.

Romania. This is the third poorest region in the entire EU. What sort

:38:02.:38:06.

of problems do you see in students whose parents have gone overseas?

:38:07.:38:10.

The main problem is that some of them dropped out of school. Some of

:38:11.:38:16.

them get involved into all kinds of difficult situations for them. Maybe

:38:17.:38:21.

drugs, even prostitution. Some of them become violent. Violent? Yeah,

:38:22.:38:28.

violent. Wide? Because they lack their parents attention. Because

:38:29.:38:32.

there are so many Romanian children with parents overseas, save the

:38:33.:38:36.

children have opened up 17 centres like this one in schools across the

:38:37.:38:40.

country. They offer things like help with homework and psychological

:38:41.:38:42.

support for people whose parents are not around. Do you miss your

:38:43.:38:45.

parents? Very much. And you? If you were to say something

:38:46.:38:59.

to your mum about her going? I tell my mum that

:39:00.:39:03.

I love her and I want Emma is 18, both her parents

:39:04.:39:06.

and her brother live Emma's mum Amelia has been in the UK

:39:07.:39:15.

for almost three years. How much better was the wage

:39:16.:39:31.

you could get in Luton What I can take for one

:39:32.:39:33.

month, I take in Romania Do you feel any guilt

:39:34.:39:39.

for leaving her behind? For good life. For something good

:39:40.:39:45.

for her. When she's finished school,

:39:46.:39:58.

Emma will join her family in Luton, where she will study

:39:59.:40:01.

to be a psychologist. Andreea Radulescu and her husband

:40:02.:40:09.

travel from Romania to London to work for four to five months

:40:10.:40:12.

in a row, each year. They have a six-year-old daughter,

:40:13.:40:15.

Ariana Harriet, who stays behind Hello. I. Hello. Hello. Thank you

:40:16.:40:36.

for coming on our programme. Tell us what kind of work you and your

:40:37.:40:39.

husband come to London to do and why? I work as a cleaner and he is a

:40:40.:40:47.

window fitter. We come to make more money here. The wages are not that

:40:48.:40:54.

good. So it is about earning more money so you can have a better life

:40:55.:40:59.

for your family and daughter? Yeah, that's true. And as your little girl

:41:00.:41:03.

gets older, how does she cope with the fact her mum and dad are away

:41:04.:41:09.

for four to five months each year? It's not easy. And now because she's

:41:10.:41:13.

growing she's asking every time we talk to her, when we come back, when

:41:14.:41:20.

is the job finished. She doesn't understand yet what happens. And how

:41:21.:41:24.

is it for her living with her grandparents? She's fine. She loves

:41:25.:41:30.

them and they love her. They spoil her. It's not like money and daddy.

:41:31.:41:40.

And on Skype it's not easy, it's not like cuddling or a hug, can't kiss

:41:41.:41:45.

her on Skype. It's hard for us as well. But we hope she will

:41:46.:41:51.

appreciate when she will grow up. When you leave, how is it when you

:41:52.:41:57.

and your husband leave her for those months? To be honest we don't say

:41:58.:42:03.

anything to her before we leave. We just tell her when we are there,

:42:04.:42:09.

when we get to England. Because I don't want to see her crying or to

:42:10.:42:13.

be upset. Are you going to keep doing this? We are not sure if we

:42:14.:42:19.

can do it for long. Because it is difficult now. It was easy when she

:42:20.:42:26.

was little. But now she is growing, and she knows she needs us more.

:42:27.:42:30.

Yeah. So maybe this year might be the last time? I can't say yes

:42:31.:42:39.

because I don't know. But might be. OK. When you come home is it as

:42:40.:42:46.

though you've never been away or do you have to get to know each other

:42:47.:42:51.

all over again? Sorry, say that again. When you get back to Romania,

:42:52.:42:58.

do you feel you have to get to know your daughter again or is it as

:42:59.:43:03.

though you have never been away? Because we see her every time, every

:43:04.:43:14.

day, it's a bit different. Sorry. But I feel like I miss her for this

:43:15.:43:24.

period of that time. OK. What about missing those important things like

:43:25.:43:30.

birthdays and so on and so forth? That must be tough? We always are

:43:31.:43:36.

together on her birthday, we never miss her birthday. So we are trying

:43:37.:43:42.

to be here when it is her birthday, when she starts school, or when she

:43:43.:43:48.

finishes school. We are trying to work out as much as we can. She is

:43:49.:43:52.

doing a lot of activity. Ballet, dancing. She is having a lot of

:43:53.:44:02.

competition which we are missing. But we are recording her, and we see

:44:03.:44:08.

her. I understand. Thank you for talking to us, and thanks to Ariana

:44:09.:44:11.

as well, really appreciate your time, thank you. All the best.

:44:12.:44:20.

As we've been hearing, there was more violence involving

:44:21.:44:23.

football supporters on the streets of Lille last night

:44:24.:44:25.

after the Russia-Slovakia game, and ahead of the England-Wales game

:44:26.:44:27.

this afternoon just down the road in Lens.

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There were 36 arrests, and 16 people were

:44:30.:44:31.

Initial concerns were about England versus Russian fans.

:44:32.:44:34.

But last night it appeared to be about English supporters

:44:35.:44:36.

Our correspondent, Danny Savage, was there.

:44:37.:44:39.

The England fans are being followed around by the French riot police.

:44:40.:44:42.

But they're coming at them from several different angles.

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You've got a line of riot police here.

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They're trying to keep the English supporters on the move.

:44:55.:44:56.

Not a good night for English supporters here.

:44:57.:44:59.

It doesn't put them in a good light at all.

:45:00.:45:04.

Uefa has threatened to disqualify England

:45:05.:45:06.

from the European Championship if there's a repeat

:45:07.:45:08.

of the violence that was seen in Marseille on Saturday.

:45:09.:45:10.

Uefa has already given a Russia a suspended

:45:11.:45:12.

So how is European Football's governing body likely to respond

:45:13.:45:17.

Let's get more on this from Mark Palios, a former

:45:18.:45:20.

What do you think? I think there was a communique from Uefa would have

:45:21.:45:32.

not seen but heard about and I think they will probably stick to the

:45:33.:45:34.

stance that at this point in time they would only be taking

:45:35.:45:38.

disciplinary action as they would call it in the event of in stadium

:45:39.:45:45.

violence by fans. I think outside of the stadium they said that is

:45:46.:45:51.

outwith their juristic show and in 2004 we had this very issue,

:45:52.:46:00.

following riots at the 98 World Cup, there was a distinct possibility we

:46:01.:46:03.

would be excluded or kicked out of the championships, and we defined

:46:04.:46:11.

the lines then that we, the FA, could not be responsible for every

:46:12.:46:14.

Englishman abroad, responsible for the flans' behaviour in the stadium,

:46:15.:46:18.

and I think that is still the official line that Uefa will be

:46:19.:46:23.

taking today. So you would expect there would not be trouble inside

:46:24.:46:27.

the stadium for England- Wales, but I'm sure I saw a flyer in the rush-

:46:28.:46:33.

Sabatier game yesterday? I think I also heard that -- the Russia

:46:34.:46:39.

Slovakia game. There is an inquiry going on with the decision to take

:46:40.:46:43.

disciplinary proceedings against Webber set off the flare in that

:46:44.:46:46.

match and that will be taken into consideration. Uefa have very

:46:47.:46:51.

distinct responsibility in their eyes which relates to their

:46:52.:46:56.

disciplinary process as opposed to the line taken by French police

:46:57.:47:01.

outside the stadiums. Our audience is seeing live pictures from Lille,

:47:02.:47:08.

mostly England supporters, I think I can see a few Wales flags but I am

:47:09.:47:12.

short-sighted! Looks very happy, kicking of all around across the

:47:13.:47:18.

tops of them, it is being pushed around in a friendly, jovial way.

:47:19.:47:23.

You would like to think if Russia supporters stay out of the way it

:47:24.:47:27.

would be fine in Lille in the run-up to the game, do you think? This is

:47:28.:47:33.

one of the problems, the way the model was given to me in terms of

:47:34.:47:40.

English hooliganism was that the rank and file can go to bars, have

:47:41.:47:46.

drinks, and they were then marshalled by guys who were, if you

:47:47.:47:50.

like, the captains who organised the hooligan element. What has been

:47:51.:47:56.

successful has been the intelligence led approach, picking up and

:47:57.:48:00.

identifying these people then using a very un-British law excluding

:48:01.:48:08.

these people from organising and the dialogue with the German authorities

:48:09.:48:15.

and Portuguese authorities was if the English are in a bar and they

:48:16.:48:19.

are drinking, it may be loutish behaviour but it is far from a riot

:48:20.:48:25.

or unless something sparks it off. In the past, aggressive policing has

:48:26.:48:27.

been seen to spark it off, so we have advocated low profile policing.

:48:28.:48:33.

I'm going to pause you there, I appreciate your time, thank you.

:48:34.:48:37.

Mark Pelias, former FA chief executive.

:48:38.:48:41.

During the Second World War, on June 6th 1944, British troops

:48:42.:48:46.

invaded German-occupied France and faced near-certain death

:48:47.:48:48.

This decisive battle which lasted for about two months

:48:49.:48:51.

was key to bringing about the end of Hitler's dream

:48:52.:48:54.

It involved over 5000 ships, 11,000 planes,

:48:55.:48:59.

and over 150,000 service men from across the Allied forces.

:49:00.:49:05.

The average life expectancy of a new tank officer deployed

:49:06.:49:08.

And at one point during the war, the odds of people surviving

:49:09.:49:20.

But David Render, a fresh-faced 19-year-old at the time,

:49:21.:49:24.

He's now one of the very last surviving Second World War tank

:49:25.:49:28.

troop commanders to have taken part in the D-Day landings in that

:49:29.:49:31.

David, who's 91, is telling his story

:49:32.:49:41.

publicly for the first time, with a book,

:49:42.:49:43.

Tank Action: An Armoured Troop Commander's War 1944-45.

:49:44.:49:45.

Thank you for talking to others, welcome to our programme. By rights,

:49:46.:49:54.

you probably shouldn't be alive, should you? Certainly not! I must

:49:55.:50:00.

say that we were very fortunate to survive. In effect, it was basically

:50:01.:50:12.

due to our squadron leader, he was only 23 and he was a major in charge

:50:13.:50:18.

of A squadron, one of three squadrons in the armed Regiment, A,

:50:19.:50:27.

e-macro, and C, and he taught us, after he sorted out carefully how to

:50:28.:50:32.

fight the Germans, the German tanks were far run the way superior to

:50:33.:50:38.

ours. They had a gun, and 88 millimetre, that could lock is out

:50:39.:50:43.

in two miles range. Sometimes they fired at us with a little flash so

:50:44.:50:48.

we could not see where they had come from. As a tank commander, you were

:50:49.:50:53.

the one who had to stick your head out of the top with the binoculars

:50:54.:50:57.

and navigate, didn't you? Yes, indeed. So you were leading by

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example? Yes, and my men, unfortunately, were much older than

:51:07.:51:09.

me, they had been up and down the desert but two years, they did the

:51:10.:51:14.

landing on D-Day. I was 19, you cannot blame them, they resented me,

:51:15.:51:19.

as they knew I wasn't going to be around for very long anyway, so the

:51:20.:51:26.

fact was that I had really to fight two walls, one against my own men to

:51:27.:51:29.

get their confidence and the other one was the Germans. When you

:51:30.:51:35.

arrived, what did you see, what happened? I came over on a thing

:51:36.:51:42.

called a landing ship tank and I took 16 Cromwell tanks over and when

:51:43.:51:48.

we landed on the beach at about 4am, the noise was to reflect from the

:51:49.:51:56.

big battleships firing. They put the ramp down and the captain came over

:51:57.:52:02.

with some old-fashioned English words and told me to get my tank

:52:03.:52:08.

sorted quick. The first one went down the ramp and instead of hitting

:52:09.:52:13.

the beach in about eight foot of water it went on down, and it went

:52:14.:52:18.

down, and turned upside down, complete with the two men, normally

:52:19.:52:24.

a tank has five men but we only had two because we were reinforcements,

:52:25.:52:28.

and it turned upside down and disappeared. So you lost two

:52:29.:52:36.

colleagues immediately? Immediately, yes. The captain came over and gave

:52:37.:52:41.

me a touristic ticking off, and I didn't understand what had happened,

:52:42.:52:45.

but I found out 50 years afterwards that we had gone right on the edge

:52:46.:52:51.

of boss Paul in the beach -- right on the edge of a hole in the beach

:52:52.:52:56.

and the tank had fallen into it, so it wasn't really my fault at all.

:52:57.:52:59.

But I can tell you I would rather have been at home with mum than

:53:00.:53:05.

doing that. We were also being shot at by the German meshes met planes.

:53:06.:53:16.

It was not very comfortable. How afraid were you? I wasn't. Were you

:53:17.:53:26.

not? Know, there is too much going on. People ask me very often, word

:53:27.:53:31.

you afraid? The first thing that I had, as I said, to deal with was my

:53:32.:53:38.

men, and they resented me, so I decided the only thing to do was to

:53:39.:53:43.

show them that I wasn't afraid, and so I always led my Troop, which is

:53:44.:53:47.

the most dangerous thing you can do, of course, and as far as fighting is

:53:48.:53:55.

concerned you just have to take a chance on it. But the point was that

:53:56.:54:02.

we would fire at the Germans and then I would advance while we were

:54:03.:54:09.

still firing to the German line and then my Troop would come up with me

:54:10.:54:17.

afterwards and sort of kept their heads down, and that is how we won,

:54:18.:54:24.

and while I was acted that was how I won my spurs with the men because I

:54:25.:54:31.

kept coming back. I got called, The Inevitable Mr Render, in the end.

:54:32.:54:38.

What was the most dangerous time for you and your men? All of it was

:54:39.:54:43.

dangerous, to be honest with you, but there were occasions, like in a

:54:44.:54:51.

place called Cleves in Germany, there were houses on the left with

:54:52.:54:56.

gaps in between where Karadzic hadn't been built, and suddenly a

:54:57.:55:00.

tank in front of up to it in flames -- wet Garrard is -- to Rajs had not

:55:01.:55:11.

been built, and I was behind in a little though armoured car and all

:55:12.:55:21.

of us, there was a terrific bang and the inside of the car was

:55:22.:55:26.

illuminated with the bright light and I said, what was that?! I put my

:55:27.:55:31.

head out and looked and I was looking straight down the gun barrel

:55:32.:55:38.

of this huge gig German Panther, what we called a self-propelled gun,

:55:39.:55:44.

and it had just fired at me but because I had only got such a little

:55:45.:55:48.

vehicle he could not get his gun low enough so the bright light was

:55:49.:55:53.

actually the trace of the armour piercing shell weighing ?22.5-macro,

:55:54.:56:04.

travelling faster than the speed of sound, travelling inches over my

:56:05.:56:10.

head, and the trace was what illuminated the inside. That must

:56:11.:56:14.

have been one of the near squeaks. But I lost two tanks as well, I had

:56:15.:56:22.

one shot at and the other one we lost on minds, we went over a series

:56:23.:56:27.

of minds, blew the floor up and unfortunately killed our driver.

:56:28.:56:32.

That was in Germany. But I was in every action that took place. You

:56:33.:56:43.

eventually got back in 1947 without really physical injuries. What about

:56:44.:56:48.

in your mind? Well, that is the trouble, I must be a bore to my wife

:56:49.:56:53.

and a lot of people because I can't get it out, it is burned into my

:56:54.:56:59.

mind. If I am injured at all, it is in my mind. When I was running my

:57:00.:57:04.

company, when I came back I bought a bankrupt company and built it to a

:57:05.:57:07.

reasonable sized firm and everything, it was successful, and I

:57:08.:57:15.

had a very good right-hand man, and all I can say is that I didn't have

:57:16.:57:19.

time to think about it, I also drove racing cars, Formula 1 and so on,

:57:20.:57:26.

and all I can say is, at the end of the day, I didn't have time to think

:57:27.:57:32.

about it, but now I have not got the company, sold it and everything, and

:57:33.:57:36.

I do other things, and all I can say is that I have had more time to

:57:37.:57:40.

think about it, and just recently I'm absolutely flattered that a very

:57:41.:57:57.

important : -- a very important kernel has wanted to write a book

:57:58.:58:03.

about me and I'm flattered really that not only he but other people

:58:04.:58:07.

are interested in an old has-been like me! You are 91 and looking

:58:08.:58:14.

absolutely terrific, if you don't mind me saying so! Do you mind me

:58:15.:58:18.

asking this, how would you like to be remembered? I'd like to be

:58:19.:58:27.

remembered as a person who was to stand ordinary Joe who, when the

:58:28.:58:37.

time came, didn't run away from protecting my mum and dad and my

:58:38.:58:45.

beloved England, in principle. I am an Englishman, a British chap, it is

:58:46.:58:52.

the same as this medal here, I feel that it hasn't been really given to

:58:53.:58:57.

me only, it has been given to you, and to all the other people in

:58:58.:59:02.

Britain, because, let's face it, it is the French at acknowledging the

:59:03.:59:06.

fact that we stood by them as Britain when they were in deep

:59:07.:59:11.

trouble, and I think that is worth having. Thank you very much, David,

:59:12.:59:15.

a privilege to meet you, thank you for coming on the programme. Thank

:59:16.:59:18.

you for talking to me. Take care.

:59:19.:59:24.

David render. Have a good day, BBC newsroom live is next.

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