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Hello it's Thursday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire, | :00:08. | :00:09. | |
Last night saw more tension in France at the European | :00:10. | :00:22. | |
Championship - between English fans and French police in Lille, | :00:23. | :00:25. | |
with tear gas, pepper spray and baton charges | :00:26. | :00:27. | |
I'm Dan Brown, I'll be reporting live from Lille, where it is clear | :00:28. | :00:41. | |
that French police last night simply lost patience with the behaviour of | :00:42. | :00:43. | |
England fans, here. On the pitch this is finally the day | :00:44. | :00:52. | |
everybody has been looking forward to, England play Wales. Northern | :00:53. | :00:56. | |
Ireland face Ukraine in a match they simply cannot afford to lose. | :00:57. | :00:58. | |
Also this morning, a special report on the hundreds of thousands | :00:59. | :01:01. | |
of children in Romania whose parents have left them behind to seek work | :01:02. | :01:04. | |
So this is a poster put up by Save The Children, | :01:05. | :01:11. | |
and this means have you told the town hall who you've | :01:12. | :01:14. | |
And it's because sometimes parents go | :01:15. | :01:19. | |
overseas and they don't let the authorities know who's | :01:20. | :01:22. | |
supposed to be looking after their children. | :01:23. | :01:24. | |
And on the day that two health organisations call | :01:25. | :01:26. | |
for the decriminalisation of drugs - a father who lost both his sons | :01:27. | :01:31. | |
to ecstasy on the same night - says he agrees with them. | :01:32. | :01:34. | |
Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning. | :01:35. | :01:48. | |
I wonder if you're one of those who thinks the the Bank of England | :01:49. | :01:53. | |
and the Treasury are quote - "peddling phoney forecasts" to scare | :01:54. | :01:55. | |
people into voting to stay in the EU? | :01:56. | :01:57. | |
That's what they're being accused of this morning. | :01:58. | :01:59. | |
We'll have the details in just a moment. | :02:00. | :02:05. | |
Plus on the EU ref - with a week to go - | :02:06. | :02:08. | |
who's going to win - remain oe leave? | :02:09. | :02:11. | |
If you're getting in touch use the hashtag Victoria | :02:12. | :02:17. | |
Live and if you text, you will be charged | :02:18. | :02:19. | |
Our top story today, 36 people have been arrested and 16 taken | :02:20. | :02:24. | |
to hospital as French riot police clashed with England fans | :02:25. | :02:26. | |
Supporters of England and Wales had been gathering there | :02:27. | :02:30. | |
ahead of the crucial European Championship game | :02:31. | :02:32. | |
A day of relatively passive policing by the French ended long | :02:33. | :02:46. | |
They played a game of cat and mouse with England fans, | :02:47. | :02:50. | |
trying to disperse them with teargas. | :02:51. | :02:55. | |
A few hundred England supporters had spent the day drinking | :02:56. | :02:59. | |
One by one they were closed, keeping the fans mobile. | :03:00. | :03:07. | |
They said they had done nothing wrong. | :03:08. | :03:09. | |
Nothing was getting thrown, nothing being said, we were just | :03:10. | :03:13. | |
Then all of a sudden a bang went off, police started charging | :03:14. | :03:21. | |
towards us, my reaction was to grab my mate, | :03:22. | :03:24. | |
Police closed in from all sides, scattering supporters. | :03:25. | :03:30. | |
It wasn't clear why the riot officers moved in, but it was clear | :03:31. | :03:33. | |
that they'd had enough of some English fans' behaviour. | :03:34. | :03:39. | |
It's about midnight now and the England fans | :03:40. | :03:42. | |
are being followed around by French riot police. | :03:43. | :03:44. | |
But they are coming at them from all different angles. | :03:45. | :03:54. | |
We have a line of riot police here, another line | :03:55. | :03:57. | |
there and they are trying to keep English fans on the move. | :03:58. | :03:59. | |
Not a good night for English supporters here. | :04:00. | :04:01. | |
It doesn't put them in a good light at all. | :04:02. | :04:05. | |
The concern had been about clashes with Russian supporters, | :04:06. | :04:07. | |
but the reality was England fans versus the police. | :04:08. | :04:10. | |
The worry now is that there will be more of this today. | :04:11. | :04:13. | |
Good morning. Morning, Victoria. Well, a depressing morning here in | :04:14. | :04:32. | |
Lille for England in the sense that the fans who were here last night, | :04:33. | :04:37. | |
it was clear from what we could see, they were getting increasingly drunk | :04:38. | :04:40. | |
through the evening. Setting off flares, taunting the police, | :04:41. | :04:46. | |
climbing up some of the road signs in the city centre, smashing glass | :04:47. | :04:50. | |
around the bars here. In the end the French riot police who had been | :04:51. | :04:53. | |
trying to contain the fans throughout the evening simply lost | :04:54. | :04:58. | |
patience, it seems. I think there was a feeling perhaps the police in | :04:59. | :05:03. | |
Marseille had lost can't roll and the police in Lille didn't want to | :05:04. | :05:08. | |
be seen to be losing control. This was not an issue with Russian fans, | :05:09. | :05:11. | |
this was really England fans who had been drinking too much. The England | :05:12. | :05:16. | |
fans, some of them have said the police tactics were too | :05:17. | :05:19. | |
heavy-handed, they did not need to go in with tear gas and pepper | :05:20. | :05:24. | |
spray. The French police believed they wanted to restore order and | :05:25. | :05:27. | |
that's what they did. Let's talk to England fans who have just arrived | :05:28. | :05:32. | |
in Lille for the game today against Wales in Lens just down the road. | :05:33. | :05:36. | |
You are all from Wolverhampton, I think. I know you were not here last | :05:37. | :05:40. | |
night and you did not see what happened and you were not involved, | :05:41. | :05:44. | |
but what is your reaction to the news that there were 36 arrests and | :05:45. | :05:50. | |
16 people in hospital? I think England fans are very passionate. It | :05:51. | :05:54. | |
is not good news, it does not reflect fairly on our country. We | :05:55. | :06:00. | |
have got such great support, we like to come out. All these guys are | :06:01. | :06:04. | |
enjoying it. It is not seen is that we really want to see. So it is a | :06:05. | :06:09. | |
minority causing the trouble? I think if it was a majority, so many | :06:10. | :06:13. | |
people would not be coming here, they would be trying to avoid this | :06:14. | :06:18. | |
city. Certainly it is a minority. The atmosphere is getting up now, | :06:19. | :06:22. | |
we've just got to enjoy it, looking forward to a fantastic day. A | :06:23. | :06:26. | |
fantastic day, but overshadowed by the trouble last night again. From | :06:27. | :06:32. | |
what we heard and saw, the police presence were antagonising fans, | :06:33. | :06:41. | |
really. Sue you blame the police? It doesn't help, wearing a riot gear | :06:42. | :06:48. | |
and shields. It might look a little more intimidating to England fans | :06:49. | :06:51. | |
than it is, but that's not excusing the ones who have been arrested, | :06:52. | :06:56. | |
we're not here to be apologists for them. We do not want circumstances | :06:57. | :07:00. | |
of that. We are just here to enjoy it. England fans, Welsh fans mixed | :07:01. | :07:05. | |
in amongst each other, cheering on our teens, that's what it's about | :07:06. | :07:08. | |
and what we should be concentrating on. I believe today we can restore | :07:09. | :07:15. | |
some pride in our country. There was an appeal from Roy Hodgson and Wayne | :07:16. | :07:19. | |
Rooney for England fans to behave, and it is important that they do, | :07:20. | :07:23. | |
especially inside the stadium. England and Wales playing each | :07:24. | :07:26. | |
other, you have seen the atmosphere. A lot of love between the countries. | :07:27. | :07:31. | |
I would be surprised to see trouble at the grounds with the home | :07:32. | :07:36. | |
nations. And what do you think of the game today, Ayew confident of an | :07:37. | :07:41. | |
England victory? Confident is a word thrown around a bit too much today. | :07:42. | :07:46. | |
Do I want us to win? Absolutely, but will we? I hope so. Three England | :07:47. | :07:53. | |
fans from Wolverhampton who will be watching the game. Already be in the | :07:54. | :07:59. | |
fans and many Wales fans in Lille are drinking in the past. There are | :08:00. | :08:03. | |
supposed to be severe restrictions on alcohol sales and jinking in | :08:04. | :08:09. | |
Lille but they seem to be flouted. Shops and supermarkets still selling | :08:10. | :08:12. | |
beer and alcohol in pretty large quantities from what we've seen. Yet | :08:13. | :08:17. | |
we had that warning from Roy Hodgson and the England captain Wayne Rooney | :08:18. | :08:21. | |
for England fans to behave. Certainly last night here in the | :08:22. | :08:25. | |
city centre of Lille, not all of them behaved. Many were not really a | :08:26. | :08:31. | |
credits to England. We will be hoping that it comes down to night | :08:32. | :08:34. | |
after the game. But clearly there are a lot of fans here, a lot of | :08:35. | :08:38. | |
England fans in Lille who do not have tickets for the game in Lens | :08:39. | :08:44. | |
and will be watching in bars here. Police will be keeping a watch on | :08:45. | :08:46. | |
them. Thanks for the moment. We will talk to plenty more England | :08:47. | :08:54. | |
and Wales supporters throughout the morning. The brasserie behind Ben | :08:55. | :08:58. | |
was open with fans their drinking, weren't there? | :08:59. | :09:03. | |
Let's get the rest of the news so far this morning, here's Annita. | :09:04. | :09:06. | |
With exactly a week to go until voters decide whether the UK | :09:07. | :09:09. | |
should stay in the European Union, both sides have been | :09:10. | :09:11. | |
The Labour leaders of ten big cities outside London are warning | :09:12. | :09:17. | |
their local economies would be put at risk by a British exit. | :09:18. | :09:20. | |
In the Leave camp, four senior Conservatives have accused | :09:21. | :09:22. | |
the Treasury of "peddling phoney forecasts" to frighten people | :09:23. | :09:24. | |
Our political guru Norman Smith is in Westminster for us and can | :09:25. | :09:33. | |
give us all the details on today's campaigning. | :09:34. | :09:36. | |
Just when you think the level of accusation and acrimony cannot be | :09:37. | :09:43. | |
ramped up more, it is. We used to senior Tories taking lumps out of | :09:44. | :09:47. | |
senior Tories, and there was more of that this morning, these four senior | :09:48. | :09:53. | |
Conservatives attacking George Osborne for what they call ludicrous | :09:54. | :09:56. | |
scaremongering. What will strike most people is the fact they also | :09:57. | :10:01. | |
leading to the Bank of England, the Treasury, the civil service and | :10:02. | :10:03. | |
other official sources. Let me give you a sense of the language they | :10:04. | :10:09. | |
use, talking about "Startling dishonesty" "Woeful failure to | :10:10. | :10:17. | |
produce a fair, balanced picture" and "Peddling phoney forecasts". | :10:18. | :10:22. | |
Number ten have expressed concern that the sort of criticism risks | :10:23. | :10:25. | |
undermining these organisations which are meant to be out of the | :10:26. | :10:29. | |
political frame. I put that charge to Michael Howard this morning and | :10:30. | :10:30. | |
this is what he said. I'm afraid that the responsibility | :10:31. | :10:39. | |
for that lies with the Remain side of this argument, they have dragged | :10:40. | :10:42. | |
the Treasury and the Bank of England and others into this debate in a way | :10:43. | :10:45. | |
which I think should not have happened. Since the forecast made by | :10:46. | :10:50. | |
these bodies are fundamentally flawed, I think we have a duty to | :10:51. | :10:55. | |
point that out. Does not mean that after this referendum these bodies | :10:56. | :10:58. | |
are inevitably tarnished, their credibility undermined? I think | :10:59. | :11:03. | |
there is a danger of that. I hope they can recover. I think it would | :11:04. | :11:07. | |
be much better if they had stood aside from the debate and been | :11:08. | :11:11. | |
impartial and that hasn't happened. And I hope that in time they will | :11:12. | :11:16. | |
recover their reputations. But I think that given the flawed | :11:17. | :11:20. | |
forecasts that many of them had put out, there is, I'm afraid, a bit of | :11:21. | :11:22. | |
a danger of that. Former Labour Chancellor Alistair | :11:23. | :11:29. | |
Darling has accused the Leave side of trying to intimidate people like | :11:30. | :11:33. | |
the governor of the Bank of England, to muzzle them, to make sure they | :11:34. | :11:39. | |
don't make further criticisms of the case believing the EU. Whereas the | :11:40. | :11:43. | |
Leave side say these guys have got it wrong before. But also this | :11:44. | :11:48. | |
criticism chimes with their attempt to present this referendum is a | :11:49. | :11:50. | |
tussle between the establishment and ordinary voters. | :11:51. | :11:54. | |
We'll be answer your questions on the EU Referendum to give | :11:55. | :11:57. | |
you the facts throughout the day with our BBC experts. | :11:58. | :12:02. | |
If it's on the economy, immigration, or sovereignty we will answer them. | :12:03. | :12:08. | |
The Conservative MP and former Chancellor Ken Clarke, | :12:09. | :12:12. | |
who wants Britain to remain in the EU will also be | :12:13. | :12:15. | |
answering your questions at 1130 here on the BBC News Channel. | :12:16. | :12:18. | |
You can get in touch via Twitter using the hashtag BBC Ask This, | :12:19. | :12:21. | |
Thousands of girls and boys have been left behind in Romania, | :12:22. | :12:28. | |
by parents who are working abroad - many in the UK. | :12:29. | :12:31. | |
Save the Children Romania says that 350,000 children there have | :12:32. | :12:38. | |
at least one parent working abroad, while four in ten are living | :12:39. | :12:41. | |
EU migration laws allow Romanian adults to travel | :12:42. | :12:44. | |
Later in the programme, we'll have a special report on some | :12:45. | :12:49. | |
of those children separated from their families. | :12:50. | :12:54. | |
If you were to say something to your mum about her going? I'd tell her | :12:55. | :13:03. | |
that I love her, and I want to see her more often. It's not easy. | :13:04. | :13:12. | |
Two leading public health organisations are calling | :13:13. | :13:13. | |
for the possession and personal use of all illegal drugs to be | :13:14. | :13:16. | |
The Royal Society for Public Health, and the Faculty of Public Health, | :13:17. | :13:24. | |
say the government's approach to drugs policy has failed. | :13:25. | :13:26. | |
The Home Office has defended its record, | :13:27. | :13:30. | |
saying drug abuse has fallen in the last ten years. | :13:31. | :13:32. | |
And coming up later in this morning's programme, | :13:33. | :13:34. | |
Victoria will be talking to a father whose two sons both died on the same | :13:35. | :13:38. | |
Wreckage from the EgyptAir jet that crashed into the Mediterranean last | :13:39. | :13:43. | |
month has been found, according to Egyptian officials. | :13:44. | :13:45. | |
The A320 disappeared from radar screens during a flight from Paris | :13:46. | :13:48. | |
to Cairo with 66 people on board, without sending out a distress call. | :13:49. | :13:55. | |
Investigators have discovered fuselage using | :13:56. | :13:56. | |
Police divers have found the body of a toddler | :13:57. | :14:05. | |
who was killed by an alligator at Walt Disney World in Florida. | :14:06. | :14:08. | |
The two-year-old boy has been named as Lane Graves. | :14:09. | :14:10. | |
He was dragged into a lagoon as he played on the shore on Tuesday | :14:11. | :14:14. | |
evening, despite his parents' attempts to save him. | :14:15. | :14:16. | |
Trappers have caught and killed a number of alligators around | :14:17. | :14:18. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9.30. | :14:19. | :14:25. | |
There are many of us looking forward to England Wales | :14:26. | :14:28. | |
game this afternoon, my sons are a bit discombobulated | :14:29. | :14:31. | |
about being at school and not being able to watch it live - | :14:32. | :14:35. | |
but loads of you are telling your children's schools | :14:36. | :14:37. | |
Jannine Walker says - Our school is allowing kids in kit | :14:38. | :14:45. | |
for the match in the afternoon and parents to join for the second | :14:46. | :14:48. | |
Who will know?! The headteacher, the form to discover the parents! | :14:49. | :15:19. | |
Everyone will know! Let me know what is happening where you work, have | :15:20. | :15:25. | |
you been given permission to watch this afternoon? Just use the | :15:26. | :15:27. | |
hashtag. Here's Sally in Paris | :15:28. | :15:29. | |
with the sport. I couldn't agree more, everybody at | :15:30. | :15:37. | |
home, put on the TV at two beyond, at work, at school, it is worth | :15:38. | :15:42. | |
watching -- at 2pm. We are hoping the focus will be on the football | :15:43. | :15:45. | |
today, a creature of day for the three home nations. The match many | :15:46. | :15:50. | |
across Britain have been looking forward to since December, when the | :15:51. | :15:54. | |
draw came out, we knew this would happen, 2pm, England against Wales | :15:55. | :15:56. | |
in Lens. Our correspondent Hywel Griffith | :15:57. | :16:05. | |
is there, and Hywel a real sense Yes, a lot of fans here already, as | :16:06. | :16:17. | |
well as the classic British weather! The focus now hopefully is on what | :16:18. | :16:20. | |
happens on the field and hearing from both camps yesterday on a bit | :16:21. | :16:26. | |
of tension for England, with only one point going into the game so a | :16:27. | :16:29. | |
win would make a difference. Wales, three points on the board, having | :16:30. | :16:34. | |
beaten Slovakia, their feeling is a lot more relaxed giving giving into | :16:35. | :16:38. | |
this game. Inevitably there has been some wind up in the build-up, Gareth | :16:39. | :16:44. | |
Bale is talking about the Welsh players having more passion, that | :16:45. | :16:49. | |
may having struck a nerve in the England camp, but this is a big | :16:50. | :16:54. | |
occasion for Britain. Many people in England and Great | :16:55. | :16:57. | |
Britain looking forward to this game. We certainly are, perhaps even | :16:58. | :17:01. | |
around the world, the fact that it is a game between brothers, if you | :17:02. | :17:08. | |
like, it adds spice to it, adds interest. It is something which I | :17:09. | :17:15. | |
can only welcome, really. If anything, it heightens the occasion, | :17:16. | :17:19. | |
rather than lessons it. Whatever is going on around England, and there | :17:20. | :17:24. | |
is a lot going on, there is a lot of -- a lot expected of them because | :17:25. | :17:27. | |
they have had great players down the years, there has been expectancy | :17:28. | :17:30. | |
around England every time they coming to a tournament, there is a | :17:31. | :17:33. | |
lot of pressure on England, and that is what I meant, we don't want to | :17:34. | :17:40. | |
get caught up with that. As soon as this game was on the menu, we knew | :17:41. | :17:45. | |
what was coming before it starts. Chris Coleman they're saying really | :17:46. | :17:49. | |
the pressure is on England, however the pressure in the Welsh country | :17:50. | :17:52. | |
comes with them having beaten Belgium to get into this | :17:53. | :17:55. | |
competition. Wales are confident they can perform in the big game but | :17:56. | :17:59. | |
England go in as favourites with the attacking threat of Fardy | :18:00. | :18:07. | |
potentially starting, we are waiting for the team news, Roy Hodgson did | :18:08. | :18:10. | |
not give anything away yesterday. For the Welsh team news, goalkeeper | :18:11. | :18:15. | |
rain Hennessey is still an injury doubt, we won't know until close to | :18:16. | :18:19. | |
kick-off whether or not he will start. | :18:20. | :18:23. | |
And it looks like the rain is setting for the day. I think you go | :18:24. | :18:25. | |
and get dry! It's a big day for | :18:26. | :18:28. | |
Northern Ireland too. Defeat to Poland in Nice last | :18:29. | :18:30. | |
weekend has given them an uphill struggle if they're to make | :18:31. | :18:33. | |
the next stage. Based near Lyon, they play Ukraine | :18:34. | :18:35. | |
there this afternoon and manager Michael O'Neill knows | :18:36. | :18:37. | |
the pressure is on. Having lost the first game, I think | :18:38. | :18:47. | |
there is a natural fear of, when do you go home? I think other countries | :18:48. | :18:50. | |
will feel the same so we have to make sure that is the motivating | :18:51. | :18:55. | |
factor, and I have no doubt it will be, we love our base, we want to | :18:56. | :19:01. | |
stay there as long as we can! We want to make sure tomorrow night | :19:02. | :19:06. | |
that we play like a cup final because we know the significance of | :19:07. | :19:10. | |
three points. That is all from Paris, the final | :19:11. | :19:14. | |
Match Of The Day sees Germany take on Poland at the start of France, | :19:15. | :19:17. | |
just a few miles from here. It could be a lively evening. | :19:18. | :19:24. | |
For a parent, losing a child is tragic. | :19:25. | :19:27. | |
Losing both of your children together is unthinkable. | :19:28. | :19:30. | |
But in November 2014, that's what happened to Ray Lakeman. | :19:31. | :19:35. | |
His sons Jacques, who was 20, and Torin, who was 19, | :19:36. | :19:39. | |
had met up to spend the weekend together and watch a football match. | :19:40. | :19:42. | |
Two days later they were found dead, together, in the B | :19:43. | :19:45. | |
Today, two high-profile health organisations, | :19:46. | :19:53. | |
the Royal Society for Public Health and the Faculty of Public Health, | :19:54. | :19:57. | |
are calling for the personal possession and use of all illegal | :19:58. | :19:59. | |
They say the so-called 'war on drugs' has failed, | :20:00. | :20:06. | |
although they say that dealers must still be prosecuted. | :20:07. | :20:08. | |
It's a stance Ray Lakeman agrees with. | :20:09. | :20:14. | |
Good morning to you, thank you for coming on to our programme. Tell us | :20:15. | :20:21. | |
why you believe the use of drugs and personal possession should be | :20:22. | :20:24. | |
decriminalised? It is quite clear to me that young people are taking | :20:25. | :20:34. | |
drugs. It is part of their culture. They are dangerous, we know they are | :20:35. | :20:39. | |
dangerous, but it isn't stopping them. The only way that we can stop | :20:40. | :20:44. | |
deaths like my children is to regulate the drugs so that they know | :20:45. | :20:49. | |
exactly what it is they are taking. And reduce the risk of accidental | :20:50. | :20:55. | |
overdoses. You would go further than what the two health organisations | :20:56. | :20:58. | |
are saying, they want decriminalisation of the use of | :20:59. | :21:01. | |
illegal drugs but you are saying legalise all drugs? I'm happy with | :21:02. | :21:05. | |
what they are saying, decriminalising it. I think part of | :21:06. | :21:10. | |
the problem when it comes to debating drug usage is the fact that | :21:11. | :21:14. | |
it is criminalised so people are not open and honest about what they are | :21:15. | :21:18. | |
doing. If you want to educate children, talk to your children | :21:19. | :21:21. | |
about what is going on, it is a lot easier if they can say, I'm taking | :21:22. | :21:27. | |
this, I'm taking back, and they are not naming themselves as being | :21:28. | :21:32. | |
criminals. You will never know, but could it have made a difference to | :21:33. | :21:36. | |
your sons? We did talk to them about the dangers of drugs, obviously it | :21:37. | :21:43. | |
didn't stop them doing it. I think that, had they known exactly what it | :21:44. | :21:47. | |
was they were taking, they took a powdered form, had they known | :21:48. | :21:51. | |
exactly how strong it was, what the quantity was, it was probably about | :21:52. | :21:56. | |
15 doses, something like that, they would not have taken it. As far as | :21:57. | :22:01. | |
we can see, they took this packet, divided it up in two and took half | :22:02. | :22:05. | |
of the each, and that was enough to kill them. When did you find out | :22:06. | :22:11. | |
what had happened? We knew on the Sunday, they went to the football on | :22:12. | :22:16. | |
the Saturday, Torin was going back to Aberystwyth, where he was at | :22:17. | :22:20. | |
university, and Jacques was staying with his grandmother in London, he | :22:21. | :22:24. | |
had just got a job in London. He was due back at about 4:30pm, 5:30pm, | :22:25. | :22:32. | |
and I rang my mother at 6:30pm as I did unusual and she said he had not | :22:33. | :22:36. | |
come back but she was expecting him as they were going out that evening. | :22:37. | :22:40. | |
Immediately I thought there was something wrong because being a | :22:41. | :22:46. | |
teenager he is always likely to let me and his mother down but he would | :22:47. | :22:49. | |
never let his grandmother down, so as soon as she said he hadn't turned | :22:50. | :22:54. | |
up we knew something had gone wrong. Try to contact them on their mobile | :22:55. | :22:58. | |
phones and got nothing, and the longer it went on the more concerned | :22:59. | :23:06. | |
we became. It was about midnight I think, I finally got contacted by | :23:07. | :23:13. | |
Manchester police, to see whether they had got arrested or something | :23:14. | :23:16. | |
like that, that was the best we could hope for, or that they had had | :23:17. | :23:20. | |
an accident and way hospital, but that was not the case so I reported | :23:21. | :23:23. | |
them missing almost straightaway. It was not until 8pm on the Monday that | :23:24. | :23:29. | |
we had confirmation what had happened. And they were together in | :23:30. | :23:34. | |
the room they were staying in? They were not found until 2:30pm on the | :23:35. | :23:41. | |
Monday. I don't know how you coped with that, Ray. It was very, very | :23:42. | :23:46. | |
difficult. The whole day was difficult. After that, things were a | :23:47. | :23:53. | |
bit of a blur. To be honest, we came to terms with it fairly quickly, | :23:54. | :23:56. | |
about what had happened, although my wife still expected them to turn up | :23:57. | :24:02. | |
at any minute. Expecting them to come through the door. Even though | :24:03. | :24:10. | |
we know they are upstairs, their ashes are upstairs in little boxes. | :24:11. | :24:17. | |
You said you had tried to talk to them about drugs, did you know that | :24:18. | :24:21. | |
they dabbled or had tried them? We knew Jacques had... The older one? | :24:22. | :24:29. | |
Yes, we tried to talk to him about it but he would categorically deny | :24:30. | :24:33. | |
he had taken any drugs even though it was obvious by his behaviour that | :24:34. | :24:38. | |
he had taken them. He did actually have a couple of incidents where he | :24:39. | :24:42. | |
collapsed and we had to get an ambulance and taken to hospital. | :24:43. | :24:49. | |
Torin was there to witness this, so we were fairly... He was quite angry | :24:50. | :24:52. | |
with his brother, calling him all the names under the sun, stupid and | :24:53. | :24:57. | |
things like that, so we were fairly confident that he would never go | :24:58. | :25:01. | |
anywhere near drugs. I'm sure that his interest came when he went to | :25:02. | :25:05. | |
university and he was with other students and things like that who | :25:06. | :25:10. | |
were indulging and things like that, tried them aren't obviously enjoyed | :25:11. | :25:16. | |
it. As many people do. Yes, and we have to accept, whether we like it | :25:17. | :25:19. | |
or not, we have to accept that is the case, that is what is happening. | :25:20. | :25:25. | |
People need to know that their children are probably indulging. | :25:26. | :25:31. | |
This could happen to them. My boys were bright, intelligent, creative. | :25:32. | :25:35. | |
They knew the risks, they knew it was dangerous. I would love to be | :25:36. | :25:40. | |
able to turn around and say, drugs are dangerous, they can kill you, | :25:41. | :25:44. | |
let's have them banned, and that. It. But it is not the case, they are | :25:45. | :25:50. | |
banned and it has not stopped it. Let's just work through with you | :25:51. | :25:53. | |
your view that legalising them would be better, they would be regulated, | :25:54. | :25:59. | |
powder wouldn't be mixed up with goodness knows what, bleach and | :26:00. | :26:05. | |
whatever else, and it would be, what, sold over-the-counter at | :26:06. | :26:08. | |
chemists, on prescription, what? What are you thinking? I really | :26:09. | :26:14. | |
haven't thought that much about it. I do think people in the medical | :26:15. | :26:19. | |
profession would support this stance as well, it is difficult for them to | :26:20. | :26:24. | |
say so. I would envisage probably across the counter as much of | :26:25. | :26:30. | |
anything else, actually have regulated shops, things like that, | :26:31. | :26:35. | |
go and get it from a chemist. So then you could have drugs and I | :26:36. | :26:40. | |
could take drugs, and my kids, when they are 18, could take drugs, would | :26:41. | :26:45. | |
that be all right? Well, if they want to, they are going to. Nobody | :26:46. | :26:51. | |
is forcing them to take them, but they are taking them, and they are | :26:52. | :26:54. | |
going to continue taking them regardless of the risks. All we can | :26:55. | :26:58. | |
do is make it as safe as we possibly can, because I don't think... The | :26:59. | :27:06. | |
war on drugs is lost. It would be lovely to say they are banned. It | :27:07. | :27:10. | |
did not work with alcohol, why on earth do we persist in believing it | :27:11. | :27:14. | |
is going to work with all of these other things? These health | :27:15. | :27:19. | |
organisations today are saying we need to treat this as a health issue | :27:20. | :27:23. | |
rather than a criminal issue, and treat people who take drugs, move | :27:24. | :27:30. | |
the drugs strategy from the Home Office to the Department of Health, | :27:31. | :27:35. | |
have drugs education universally in schools up and down the land. What | :27:36. | :27:39. | |
do you think of that? People take drugs for various reasons, there are | :27:40. | :27:44. | |
people who are self-medicating by doing this. They are being | :27:45. | :27:51. | |
criminalised. If you are in that situation, I don't think you should | :27:52. | :27:55. | |
be treated as a criminal. I do think you should be treated, I think it | :27:56. | :28:01. | |
should be decriminalised, get help and support. Education is fine but | :28:02. | :28:06. | |
there is already education, there are already messages out there that | :28:07. | :28:11. | |
drugs are dangerous. As I said, it isn't stopping people. I wish it | :28:12. | :28:17. | |
would, but it won't. What do you say to parents who might be watching | :28:18. | :28:24. | |
now, and those younger who use drugs recreationally, what do you say to | :28:25. | :28:28. | |
them about talking to teenagers, to their young adult children about | :28:29. | :28:34. | |
drugs? By all means warm them, talk to them about the dangers, but be | :28:35. | :28:39. | |
aware that, with the situation as it is, they may not be open with you. | :28:40. | :28:45. | |
They might deny it, like Jacques did? I would say almost certainly. | :28:46. | :28:50. | |
If we want to discuss it, if you want to discuss it with your | :28:51. | :28:53. | |
children, even teachers in school, the children are not going to be | :28:54. | :28:58. | |
open about what they are doing, saying, I'm taking this or that, | :28:59. | :29:04. | |
what would happen if I took this? They leave themselves open to being | :29:05. | :29:08. | |
criminalised, so they are not going to tell you what they are doing. It | :29:09. | :29:11. | |
is also part of growing up, they want to keep things from their | :29:12. | :29:19. | |
parents, and this kind of attitude response is part of being a | :29:20. | :29:24. | |
teenager, part of growing up. As you say, Jacques went into hospital | :29:25. | :29:29. | |
twice after drugs incidents so it was clear he was using them. I | :29:30. | :29:34. | |
wonder why you think that wasn't enough to deter him from then | :29:35. | :29:41. | |
continuing to use drugs? In his case it could well have been a coping | :29:42. | :29:46. | |
mechanism for things that were going gone, but there was no doubt that he | :29:47. | :29:53. | |
enjoyed the experience. Even though he was hospitalised, and obviously | :29:54. | :29:56. | |
he knew that it was risky, he was told by the doctors and things like | :29:57. | :30:02. | |
that the stuff that he was taking was dangerous. When this happened | :30:03. | :30:06. | |
they put him in touch with drugs and alcohol people who talked to him, | :30:07. | :30:09. | |
put him on a programme, this that and the other, but once again it was | :30:10. | :30:15. | |
easy for him to turn around and say, I'm OK now, I'm over that. And then | :30:16. | :30:19. | |
they would drop the programme, and then a while later he is back again. | :30:20. | :30:27. | |
There is also the invincibility approach, we probably all have it | :30:28. | :30:31. | |
when we are young, you think, it is not going to happen to me. I think | :30:32. | :30:35. | |
what happened to my boys, people are turning round to say, it happened to | :30:36. | :30:39. | |
them, it won't happen to me, the chances of it happening to me are | :30:40. | :30:47. | |
very few, because it has happened... They are playing Russian roulette | :30:48. | :30:50. | |
every time they are doing this. I just want to make it safer, I don't | :30:51. | :30:54. | |
want anybody else to go through what I'm going through. Thank you very | :30:55. | :30:56. | |
much for talking to us. We'll talk to England and Wales fans | :30:57. | :30:59. | |
about the trouble in Lille last night and the football match due | :31:00. | :31:05. | |
to take place in Lens And we have a special report | :31:06. | :31:08. | |
from Romania on the hundreds of thousands of children there whose | :31:09. | :31:12. | |
parents have left them Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom | :31:13. | :31:15. | |
with a summary of todays news. 36 people have been arrested and 16 | :31:16. | :31:28. | |
taken to hospital as French riot police clashed with England fans | :31:29. | :31:33. | |
in the city of Lille last night. Supporters of England and Wales had | :31:34. | :31:36. | |
been gathering there ahead of the crucial European Championship | :31:37. | :31:39. | |
game between the teams With exactly a week to go | :31:40. | :31:41. | |
until voters decide whether the UK should stay in the European Union, | :31:42. | :31:48. | |
both sides are stepping up their campaigning | :31:49. | :31:50. | |
around the country. Former prime minister Gordon Brown | :31:51. | :31:55. | |
will campaign in Manchester later and the Labour leaders of ten big | :31:56. | :31:59. | |
cities outside London are warning that their local economies would be | :32:00. | :32:02. | |
put at risk by a British exit. In the Leave camp, four senior | :32:03. | :32:05. | |
Conservatives have accused the Treasury of "peddling phoney | :32:06. | :32:09. | |
forecasts" to frighten people Thousands of girls and boys have | :32:10. | :32:11. | |
been left behind in Romania, by parents who are working abroad - | :32:12. | :32:19. | |
many in the UK. Save the Children Romania says that | :32:20. | :32:21. | |
350,000 children there have at least one parent working abroad, | :32:22. | :32:24. | |
while four in ten are living EU migration laws allow Romanian | :32:25. | :32:27. | |
adults to travel Later in the programme, | :32:28. | :32:31. | |
we'll have a special report on some of those children separated | :32:32. | :32:37. | |
from their families. Two leading public health | :32:38. | :32:39. | |
organisations are calling for the possession and personal use | :32:40. | :32:41. | |
of all illegal drugs to be The Royal Society for Public Health, | :32:42. | :32:44. | |
and the Faculty of Public Health, say the government's approach | :32:45. | :32:54. | |
to drugs policy has failed, and there should be more focus | :32:55. | :32:56. | |
on treatment and education. The Home Office has | :32:57. | :32:58. | |
defended its record, saying drug abuse has fallen | :32:59. | :33:00. | |
in the last decade. Russia has been accused of trying | :33:01. | :33:04. | |
to stop officials from carrying out The World Anti-Doping Agency says | :33:05. | :33:07. | |
Russian security services have It comes as Russia is due to find | :33:08. | :33:13. | |
out if it will be allowed to send That's a summary of the latest BBC | :33:14. | :33:20. | |
News - more at 10.00 Couple of comments about the | :33:21. | :33:37. | |
interview with Ray Lakeman. What a measured man, says Tom on Twitter. | :33:38. | :33:42. | |
He'd have every right to hold the opposite view, losing both sons in | :33:43. | :33:46. | |
such circumstances. And Mel says, it's so sad to listen to Ray talking | :33:47. | :33:50. | |
about losing his sons to ecstasy, it's heartbreaking. | :33:51. | :33:56. | |
Here's some sport now with Sally in Paris. | :33:57. | :34:00. | |
It's the day a large proportion of the country have been waiting for, | :34:01. | :34:06. | |
England against Wales in Lens. England cannot afford another | :34:07. | :34:11. | |
slip-up after only drawing their opening match. Wales know they could | :34:12. | :34:13. | |
qualify for the knockout phase with a win. Big day from Northern | :34:14. | :34:18. | |
Ireland, they lost their opening match against Poland. They face | :34:19. | :34:23. | |
Ukraine and cannot afford another defeat in Lyon. Kyle Edmonds notched | :34:24. | :34:29. | |
up the best win of his career, beating French eighth seed Jill | :34:30. | :34:33. | |
Simon at Queens yesterday. Another win today against Mathieu would see | :34:34. | :34:41. | |
him face the winner of Andy Murray's match. | :34:42. | :34:43. | |
As we've been hearing, there was more violence | :34:44. | :34:45. | |
between football supporters on the streets of Lille last night | :34:46. | :34:50. | |
after the Russia Slovakia game, and ahead of the England Wales game | :34:51. | :34:53. | |
this afternoon just down the road in Lens. | :34:54. | :34:54. | |
There were 36 were arrests and 16 people were taken to hospital. | :34:55. | :34:57. | |
Our correspondent, Danny Savage, was there. | :34:58. | :35:00. | |
Police are just following the English fans around. | :35:01. | :35:02. | |
They're throwing some fire crackers but they just pushing supporters | :35:03. | :35:05. | |
They're not actually detaining anyone. | :35:06. | :35:09. | |
They're just following them around the city centre. | :35:10. | :35:19. | |
French police played a game of cat and mouse with England fans, | :35:20. | :35:21. | |
many of whom had spent the day drinking in bars. | :35:22. | :35:26. | |
As the evening wore on the bars were closed, meaning the fans | :35:27. | :35:29. | |
They insisted they hadn't done anything wrong. | :35:30. | :35:34. | |
None of us were causing trouble, nothing was being thrown. Nothing | :35:35. | :35:40. | |
was being said really. We were just having a drink at this bar. All of a | :35:41. | :35:45. | |
sudden a bang went off, police started charging towards us. My | :35:46. | :35:49. | |
reaction was, grab my mate and ran down this road. That's as far as I | :35:50. | :35:54. | |
know. We heard a bang and the police started charging. What were the | :35:55. | :35:57. | |
England fans doing, being boisterous? They were just singing | :35:58. | :36:02. | |
here. Then there was an absolute wall of them with riot shields and | :36:03. | :36:03. | |
they started charging. There were also Russian supporters | :36:04. | :36:06. | |
causing trouble in Lille. The ex-England footballer, | :36:07. | :36:08. | |
Stan Collymore, posted The ex-England footballer, Stan | :36:09. | :36:10. | |
Collymore, posted a video online. Russian fans throwing things. | :36:11. | :36:20. | |
Russian fans throwing bottles. Russian fans throwing things. Yes, | :36:21. | :36:37. | |
him! Him! Throwing bottles. Journalist! You were throwing | :36:38. | :36:42. | |
bottles! Yes! Lets talk to various England and | :36:43. | :36:52. | |
Wales fans either out there or on their way at least. Billy Grant, | :36:53. | :36:57. | |
let's start with you, where were you last night and what did you see? | :36:58. | :37:02. | |
Last night I was in Lille, I got there yesterday afternoon at 1:30pm. | :37:03. | :37:06. | |
Very chilled, nice, relaxed atmosphere when we arrived. Russia | :37:07. | :37:10. | |
were playing Slovakia so most of the fans were in the stadium. But it was | :37:11. | :37:16. | |
a very relaxed atmosphere. Very different to down south. Then | :37:17. | :37:22. | |
afterwards, as time got on, as they came out of the stadium, I didn't | :37:23. | :37:27. | |
go, but my colleague said he saw some activity. He saw some fights | :37:28. | :37:33. | |
happening. He could tell there were tensions starting to rise. What I | :37:34. | :37:38. | |
did yesterday to be honest, we headed out of it. We were in an area | :37:39. | :37:41. | |
ten minutes walk from the main square, just round the corner. So it | :37:42. | :37:47. | |
was easy to get away from it if you wanted to? Absolutely. Full of | :37:48. | :37:51. | |
French and English where we were. No problems. To be honest you probably | :37:52. | :37:57. | |
know more about what is going on in Lille than I do. It is all on social | :37:58. | :38:01. | |
media so we can all catch up with what is happening. But I take your | :38:02. | :38:06. | |
point, you could walk away and find perfectly friendly foreign | :38:07. | :38:08. | |
supporters mingling together. Indeed. We filmed a documentary | :38:09. | :38:17. | |
three months ago where we came out to Marseille and spoke to the | :38:18. | :38:20. | |
Marseille culture is about England coming to Marseille for the first | :38:21. | :38:24. | |
time since 98. Their point they said to us was, it was a long time ago, | :38:25. | :38:31. | |
yes, but Marseille people never forget. Potentially a time for | :38:32. | :38:35. | |
revenge. One personal point they said, they are very worried about | :38:36. | :38:38. | |
this because the police are incompetent. Their way of policing | :38:39. | :38:44. | |
us, they just ban us from matters. If we play PSG they won't let us go. | :38:45. | :38:50. | |
If we go down to Lyon, we can't go there. That's their way of dealing | :38:51. | :38:54. | |
with it, and they said it's rubbish, what will happen in the Euros, you | :38:55. | :38:58. | |
cannot ban them. They believed they would not handle the fans. It is a | :38:59. | :39:02. | |
pertinent issue, the way the police have been dealing with it, | :39:03. | :39:07. | |
indiscriminately tear gas and people, putting people's backs up | :39:08. | :39:10. | |
and stuff, there are people who may be doing other things but in general | :39:11. | :39:15. | |
the travelling people are good, travelling people and the police do | :39:16. | :39:19. | |
not deal with it in the same way our British police do. And that's the | :39:20. | :39:23. | |
point some England supporters did make who were right in the centre of | :39:24. | :39:28. | |
Lille. Thanks for the moment. Let's talk to some England fans who are | :39:29. | :39:31. | |
travelling to watch their team hopefully win this afternoon. Louise | :39:32. | :39:39. | |
is on a train from Paris. I am a Welsh van. I can see that, it is | :39:40. | :39:44. | |
very clear. I am half English, half Welsh, but I have gone with Wales. | :39:45. | :39:50. | |
OK, why? My grandfather played rugby for Wales. So we have always been | :39:51. | :39:54. | |
told to support Wales. And what are your expectations for this | :39:55. | :39:58. | |
afternoon? I went to the game in Bordeaux last week. So quite high | :39:59. | :40:03. | |
now, I think we could do it. I wouldn't have said it before the | :40:04. | :40:06. | |
tournament, but we played pretty well so we will definitely win. Or | :40:07. | :40:12. | |
so we have got Ffion on a coachload of Welsh fans. Can you hear me or | :40:13. | :40:18. | |
write? Hello, good morning. How are you feeling right now? Quite | :40:19. | :40:26. | |
excited. On the bus from Paris to Lens, ten buses in convoy, excited. | :40:27. | :40:32. | |
Are you happy Gareth Bale has wound up the England team and plenty of | :40:33. | :40:36. | |
supporters by saying the Welsh players are more passionate than the | :40:37. | :40:40. | |
English? Yeah, he's been great this week. He knows what to say. We are | :40:41. | :40:45. | |
all very passionate fans. Couldn't agree more with him. Let me bring in | :40:46. | :40:53. | |
Steve and Ian. You are both in Lille. What did you see last night? | :40:54. | :40:58. | |
I got a completely different story from what everybody else has been | :40:59. | :41:02. | |
saying for five or ten minutes. We were not in the centre of Lille, we | :41:03. | :41:07. | |
were two or three Metro stops away, perhaps 20 minutes away I expect. We | :41:08. | :41:11. | |
got a completely different atmosphere here. We were intending | :41:12. | :41:17. | |
on staying in with a few drinks and watching the telly, but there were a | :41:18. | :41:20. | |
couple of bars next door to us, great atmosphere and the locals were | :41:21. | :41:26. | |
really good fun. We had a sing and dance afterwards outside. I managed | :41:27. | :41:33. | |
to acquire some paraphernalia, got a French scarf here somewhere. Just | :41:34. | :41:40. | |
really happy, fun atmosphere. You'd never know that violence was | :41:41. | :41:44. | |
happening a couple of miles away in the centre. Ian, I wonder what you | :41:45. | :41:48. | |
are expecting for this afternoon, then come in terms of the England | :41:49. | :41:55. | |
and Wales fans getting together? England and Wales fans have already | :41:56. | :41:58. | |
been together in the bars and there has been no trouble whatsoever. We | :41:59. | :42:03. | |
are about a 15 minute walk away from the centre, watching the game last | :42:04. | :42:07. | |
night and the atmosphere was fantastic. Full of French. No | :42:08. | :42:17. | |
problems. Really good atmosphere. Lots of English and lots of | :42:18. | :42:23. | |
different people, no trouble. Escorted from the railway station | :42:24. | :42:26. | |
very quickly before we were back here at the hotel where we have been | :42:27. | :42:31. | |
staying for the last four days. Steve, after the game is over, | :42:32. | :42:37. | |
that's when people will carry on drinking and celebrating depending | :42:38. | :42:43. | |
on what the outcome is, obviously. Do you think that it's going to stay | :42:44. | :42:47. | |
friendly? Or does that depend on how the police behave? Bit of both, I. | :42:48. | :42:54. | |
The English guys I've been speaking to the last couple of days, a couple | :42:55. | :43:00. | |
last night as well, we just can't understand where the silence is | :43:01. | :43:04. | |
coming from. I work with English people, I've got an English | :43:05. | :43:07. | |
girlfriend, I don't see any animosity. We've just got that small | :43:08. | :43:12. | |
element, wherever it is English Welsh, French Russian, who just want | :43:13. | :43:18. | |
to have a bit of a fight. It is sad that it follows football around. | :43:19. | :43:21. | |
Football is so big and they have attached themselves to it. The large | :43:22. | :43:24. | |
majority of people will just have some friendly banter, Win, lose, | :43:25. | :43:29. | |
whatever. But you will get that small element. And from what I've | :43:30. | :43:31. | |
heard the French police have been quite heavy-handed. I can sympathise | :43:32. | :43:37. | |
with them. They've got their city and country to look after. Perhaps | :43:38. | :43:42. | |
with the terror threat as well. They've just had enough and want to | :43:43. | :43:46. | |
be rid of us all. I think they lost patience a bit last night. Thank you | :43:47. | :43:52. | |
all very much. Have a good time this afternoon. Thanks, we'll do. Thank | :43:53. | :43:55. | |
you very much, all of you. The extraordinary account of one | :43:56. | :44:02. | |
of the last surviving Second World War tank troop | :44:03. | :44:05. | |
commanders - David Render tells us Next to Romania - walk into any | :44:06. | :44:08. | |
school in that country and you're likely to find a fair few pupils | :44:09. | :44:14. | |
whose parents are working abroad. Some schools even display posters | :44:15. | :44:18. | |
urging adults to let the authorities know who will be looking | :44:19. | :44:21. | |
after their children According to Save The Children, | :44:22. | :44:23. | |
up to 350,000 children in Romania In around 40% of cases, | :44:24. | :44:26. | |
both parents have left. EU migration laws allow Romanians | :44:27. | :44:31. | |
to travel across Europe to find well-paid work - something that has | :44:32. | :44:34. | |
become a big part of the debate Do any of you guys have mum or dad | :44:35. | :44:37. | |
or both working overseas? One, two, three, four, | :44:38. | :44:54. | |
five, six, seven, eight. Could you tell me where | :44:55. | :45:01. | |
they are working? So this is the flight | :45:02. | :45:02. | |
from London Luton to Becau Just about everyone works | :45:03. | :45:16. | |
in the UK and is going back In terms of the difference | :45:17. | :45:21. | |
between salaries and the life, it is at least three times better | :45:22. | :45:30. | |
than back home. I got very used to the UK, | :45:31. | :45:34. | |
so it is like my home now, so it is really when I am going back | :45:35. | :45:43. | |
to Romania it feels like a holiday, In January 2014, Romanians gained | :45:44. | :45:47. | |
the same rights to work in the UK Around 180,000 work in the UK | :45:48. | :45:53. | |
at the moment and across the whole of the EU | :45:54. | :45:58. | |
that is approximately 3 million. This part of Romania | :45:59. | :46:08. | |
is the third-poorest region We are in north-east Romania now, | :46:09. | :46:10. | |
the county of Vaslui. There is no industry, the roads | :46:11. | :46:19. | |
and infrastructure is very poor. The authorities don't have enough | :46:20. | :46:25. | |
money to invest, they have limited budget and on the other | :46:26. | :46:35. | |
hand there is corruption They work on the land or build | :46:36. | :46:37. | |
houses for those who earn enough Those that are qualified work | :46:38. | :46:48. | |
elsewhere because here there are no We're heading to a town called | :46:49. | :46:57. | |
Negresti, a town where much Around 200 have parents | :46:58. | :47:05. | |
working overseas. Across Romania, Save The Children | :47:06. | :47:23. | |
estimate there are 350,000 children They're usually left to live | :47:24. | :47:26. | |
with the remaining parent or other So this is a poster put up | :47:27. | :47:36. | |
by Save The Children and this means, "Have you told the town | :47:37. | :47:44. | |
hall who you have left This is because sometimes parents go | :47:45. | :47:47. | |
overseas and they don't let the authorities know who is supposed | :47:48. | :47:51. | |
to be looking after So, how many people in here | :47:52. | :47:53. | |
have a mum or dad working overseas? One, two, three, four, | :47:54. | :47:59. | |
five, six, seven, eight. Can you tell me where | :48:00. | :48:02. | |
they are working? It means I have to go home and do | :48:03. | :48:05. | |
cleaning and cooking. You have to be | :48:06. | :48:27. | |
a grown-up? What is the economic situation | :48:28. | :48:29. | |
for people living here? In Negresti, for example, | :48:30. | :48:41. | |
out of 7000 people only Because mainly | :48:42. | :48:46. | |
salaries are very low. Wages are very low and if they have | :48:47. | :49:03. | |
good qualifications they prefer to work abroad, | :49:04. | :49:08. | |
where they are better paid and they have a better chance | :49:09. | :49:13. | |
of supporting their families here. That means there are still 6000 | :49:14. | :49:17. | |
people here not working at all, Some of them are supported | :49:18. | :49:20. | |
by the state and mainly most of them rely on the | :49:21. | :49:24. | |
relatives working abroad. So what sort of problems do you see | :49:25. | :49:28. | |
in the students whose The main problem is that some | :49:29. | :49:31. | |
of them drop out of school, some of them get involved | :49:32. | :49:39. | |
in all kinds of difficult situations for them, | :49:40. | :49:42. | |
maybe drugs, prostitution. They become bullies | :49:43. | :49:46. | |
because they lack their It is mainly the government's fault | :49:47. | :49:52. | |
because they don't do enough I cannot judge the parents | :49:53. | :50:03. | |
for going abroad, they are trying I'm not complaining, | :50:04. | :50:12. | |
I'm just saying. I won't complain because if I do | :50:13. | :50:24. | |
complain, nothing will change very soon, this is how things work | :50:25. | :50:29. | |
in this part of the world. As long as the government doesn't do | :50:30. | :50:34. | |
anything regarding the development of the area, nothing | :50:35. | :50:39. | |
is going to change. He is not exaggerating, | :50:40. | :50:44. | |
unemployment in this town is recorded at more than 80%, | :50:45. | :50:53. | |
the population is around 7000. Over the last 20 years, | :50:54. | :50:56. | |
around 3000 people left. This has become such an issue that | :50:57. | :51:06. | |
Romania's Eurovision entry last year Because there are so many Romanian | :51:07. | :51:08. | |
children with parents overseas, Save The Children have opened up 17 | :51:09. | :51:28. | |
centres like this one in schools across the country, and they offer | :51:29. | :51:39. | |
things like help with homework and psychological support for people | :51:40. | :51:43. | |
whose parents are not What sort of issues have | :51:44. | :51:45. | |
you seen among the children? Starting with minor problems | :51:46. | :51:52. | |
such as self-isolation, reluctance to communicate, | :51:53. | :51:53. | |
to really severe psychological Unfortunately there are some tragic | :51:54. | :51:57. | |
cases, fortunately just a few. People usually associate | :51:58. | :52:01. | |
Save The Children's work with emergency work, | :52:02. | :52:12. | |
children who are fleeing war This is just a missing parent, | :52:13. | :52:13. | |
is it the same thing? Of course, it is very | :52:14. | :52:19. | |
serious for these children. We have different crises from period | :52:20. | :52:23. | |
to period, street children, economically exploited | :52:24. | :52:25. | |
children, premature children. But this is a major crisis | :52:26. | :52:30. | |
situation for these children. Do you miss your | :52:31. | :52:35. | |
parents? The parents are away, | :52:36. | :52:36. | |
we have a big gap. I have a better relationship | :52:37. | :52:50. | |
with my mum who is overseas and now I am staying with my | :52:51. | :52:57. | |
dad, it is just... Because I often argue with my dad, | :52:58. | :53:01. | |
but that is OK, he loves me, Do you understand why | :53:02. | :53:05. | |
they have to work overseas? Yes, because we need money | :53:06. | :53:17. | |
and here we have no possibilities. If you were to say something | :53:18. | :53:22. | |
to your mum about her going? I tell my mum that | :53:23. | :53:27. | |
I love her and I want These are the critical | :53:28. | :53:29. | |
years for normal, healthy They need that person, | :53:30. | :54:06. | |
the closest person, which is the parent, | :54:07. | :54:14. | |
to lean on and to communicate Emma is 18, both her parents | :54:15. | :54:17. | |
and her brother live She says the only reason she has | :54:18. | :54:36. | |
been able to stay in school in Romania is because her parents can | :54:37. | :54:41. | |
support her with their British jobs. How is it having them | :54:42. | :54:44. | |
work so far away? While we are speaking, | :54:45. | :54:59. | |
Emma gets a call from her dad in Luton to tell her her mum has | :55:00. | :55:02. | |
made her flight and she is coming Emma's mum Amelia has been in the UK | :55:03. | :55:06. | |
for almost three years. She works | :55:07. | :55:16. | |
for Amazon, her husband in a bakery. What does it feel like when you see | :55:17. | :55:19. | |
your mum again for the first It is cool, you are matching, | :55:20. | :55:22. | |
did you coordinate your outfits? How is it seeing each other | :55:23. | :56:11. | |
after some time away? How much better was the wage | :56:12. | :56:40. | |
you could get in Luton What I can get for one month, | :56:41. | :56:56. | |
I have to work in Romania Do you understand that a lot | :56:57. | :57:05. | |
of children left behind Do you feel any guilt | :57:06. | :57:23. | |
for leaving her behind? I have motive, I do it | :57:24. | :57:47. | |
for her to have good life. When she's finished school, | :57:48. | :57:58. | |
Emma will join her family in Luton, where she will study | :57:59. | :58:21. | |
to be a psychologist. And you can share that film | :58:22. | :58:27. | |
by going to bbc.co.uk/victoria. Later in the programme we'll talk | :58:28. | :58:32. | |
to one Romanian mum She's a window cleaner | :58:33. | :58:35. | |
and her husband is a window fitter - both parents come to London to work | :58:36. | :58:41. | |
for four to five months each year because they can earn | :58:42. | :58:45. | |
much more money here than at home and they feel | :58:46. | :58:47. | |
that they are providing a better The EU referendum vote | :58:48. | :58:50. | |
is exactly ONE week away. Who's going to win - | :58:51. | :59:01. | |
Remain or Leave? Once again we are looking at heavy | :59:02. | :59:16. | |
showers, some of them will be torrential, thundery, slow-moving, | :59:17. | :59:19. | |
and could lead to the risk of localised flooding. Mainly England | :59:20. | :59:24. | |
and also Wales. In between the showers, there will be bright spells | :59:25. | :59:28. | |
of sunshine. Showers across Northern Ireland, bright spells as well, and | :59:29. | :59:32. | |
Scotland have rain or drizzle and a lot of cloud. For both Scotland and | :59:33. | :59:37. | |
Northern Ireland it is a cool breeze so feel fresher, quite Mcgee keep | :59:38. | :59:40. | |
you are stuck under one of those showers in England and Wales. If you | :59:41. | :59:45. | |
are heading to Royal Ascot today, it is Ladies' Day, you may already be | :59:46. | :59:50. | |
there, watching on the big screens, expect some showers, likely to be | :59:51. | :59:54. | |
heavy and possibly country as well. That will continue through the | :59:55. | :59:58. | |
evening but as we had overnight, lose the Thunder and lightning, some | :59:59. | :00:02. | |
of the showers will fade, some rain still across eastern Scotland and | :00:03. | :00:06. | |
North East England, it will not be particularly cold. That leads us | :00:07. | :00:10. | |
into tomorrow, still wearing across eastern Scotland and North East | :00:11. | :00:13. | |
England but more heavy, thunder showers in the South. | :00:14. | :00:16. | |
Hello it's Thursday, it's 10 o clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire, | :00:17. | :00:18. | |
At least 36 arrests and sixteen taken to hospital, as French police | :00:19. | :00:23. | |
and English football fans clash in Lille. | :00:24. | :00:30. | |
Riot police used tear gas and charged at hundreds of fans. | :00:31. | :00:33. | |
England fans tell this programme that they want to try and restore | :00:34. | :00:35. | |
We are just here just to enjoy it. So many people are here to enjoy it. | :00:36. | :00:45. | |
England fans, Welsh fans, mixing amongst each other, cheering on our | :00:46. | :00:50. | |
teams. That's what we should be concentrating on and hopefully | :00:51. | :00:52. | |
today's the day we can restore some pride back in our country. | :00:53. | :00:54. | |
A special report on the hundreds of thousands of children in Romania | :00:55. | :00:57. | |
whose parents have left them behind to seek work abroad | :00:58. | :01:00. | |
including here in the UK, we'll have reaction. | :01:01. | :01:04. | |
How many people in here have a dad working overseas? OK, one, two, | :01:05. | :01:12. | |
three, four, five, six, seven, eight. Can you tell me where they | :01:13. | :01:15. | |
are working? Italy. England. Greece. It marked the beginning of the end | :01:16. | :01:22. | |
of the Second World War - we hear from one of the last | :01:23. | :01:25. | |
surviving British tank troop commanders to have taken part | :01:26. | :01:28. | |
in the D-Day landings. We'll hear David's story | :01:29. | :01:30. | |
after half ten this morning. Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom | :01:31. | :01:44. | |
with a summary of today's news. Some breaking news. Cliff Richard | :01:45. | :01:57. | |
will not face charges over allegations of historic sex abuse, | :01:58. | :02:00. | |
the Crown Prosecution Service has just announced. The CPS says it has | :02:01. | :02:07. | |
carefully looked at claims relating to non-recent sexual cases. We will | :02:08. | :02:13. | |
have more detail on that as it comes into us. | :02:14. | :02:14. | |
36 people were arrested and 16 taken to hospital as French riot police | :02:15. | :02:17. | |
clashed with England fans in the city of Lille last night. | :02:18. | :02:20. | |
Supporters of England and Wales had been gathering there ahead | :02:21. | :02:22. | |
of the crucial European Championship game between the teams | :02:23. | :02:24. | |
this afternoon in the nearby town of Lens. | :02:25. | :02:29. | |
The FA has called on England supporters to behave responsibly. | :02:30. | :02:33. | |
With a week to go until voters decide whether the UK should stay | :02:34. | :02:36. | |
in the European Union, both sides are focusing | :02:37. | :02:39. | |
on the economy and migration as they hit the campaign trail today. | :02:40. | :02:43. | |
Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell and former prime minister | :02:44. | :02:47. | |
Gordon Brown will say that Labour could secure an extra ?35bn in EU | :02:48. | :02:50. | |
Meanwhile, the Leave campaign is calling on David Cameron | :02:51. | :02:56. | |
to promise that he would step in to stop Turkey from joining | :02:57. | :02:59. | |
We'll be answering your questions on the EU Referendum to give | :03:00. | :03:04. | |
you the facts throughout the day with our BBC experts. | :03:05. | :03:06. | |
If you have a question on the economy, immigration, | :03:07. | :03:08. | |
Chancellor Ken Clarke, who wants Britain to remain | :03:09. | :03:14. | |
in the EU will also be answering your questions at 1130 | :03:15. | :03:17. | |
And at 17:30 today, The UKIP Leader, Nigel Farage who wants us | :03:18. | :03:27. | |
to leave the EU will be taking your questions. | :03:28. | :03:32. | |
You can get in touch via Twitter using the hashtag BBC Ask This, | :03:33. | :03:35. | |
Thousands of children have been left behind in Romania, | :03:36. | :03:39. | |
by parents who are working abroad - many in the UK. | :03:40. | :03:44. | |
Save the Children Romania says that 350,000 young people there have | :03:45. | :03:50. | |
at least one parent working abroad, while four in ten are living | :03:51. | :03:53. | |
EU migration laws allow Romanian adults to travel | :03:54. | :03:56. | |
The possession and personal use of illegal drugs should be | :03:57. | :04:03. | |
decriminalised in the UK, according to two leading | :04:04. | :04:05. | |
The Royal Society for Public Health, and the Faculty of Public Health, | :04:06. | :04:11. | |
say the government's approach to drugs policy has failed, | :04:12. | :04:13. | |
and there should be more focus on treatment and education. | :04:14. | :04:16. | |
The Home Office has defended its record, | :04:17. | :04:17. | |
saying drug abuse has fallen in the last decade. | :04:18. | :04:21. | |
Russia has been accused of trying to stop officials from carrying out | :04:22. | :04:24. | |
The World Anti-Doping Agency says Russian security services have | :04:25. | :04:29. | |
Russia is due to find out tomorrow if it will be allowed to send | :04:30. | :04:37. | |
competitors to international competitions, including | :04:38. | :04:38. | |
People calling the 111 NHS patient helpline are waiting too | :04:39. | :04:41. | |
long in some areas - and are even being put at risk - | :04:42. | :04:44. | |
The Care Quality Commission found that patients who needed emergency | :04:45. | :04:52. | |
care in the South West of England were being "consistently failed". | :04:53. | :04:57. | |
We were concerned about the safety of the service, largely related to | :04:58. | :05:07. | |
how long it was taking to respond to calls, and therefore calls might be | :05:08. | :05:12. | |
abandoned. Echo some of those calls might genuinely be urgent calls and | :05:13. | :05:16. | |
might therefore not be getting through to the right service | :05:17. | :05:25. | |
entirely. The Met office is warning of flooding. Showers like this are | :05:26. | :05:29. | |
expected in the south and west. That's a summary of the latest BBC | :05:30. | :05:35. | |
News - more at 10.30. Just bringing you the breaking news | :05:36. | :05:46. | |
to do with Cliff Richard. He will not face charges over allegations of | :05:47. | :05:51. | |
historic sex abuse. That's just in from the Crown Prosecution Service. | :05:52. | :05:55. | |
Cliff Richard who has spent two years under investigation will not | :05:56. | :05:59. | |
face charges over allegations of historic sex abuse. The statement | :06:00. | :06:05. | |
here is from the Chief Crown is a judo for Yorkshire and Humberside, | :06:06. | :06:09. | |
Martin Goldman. He says the CPS has carefully reviewed evidence relating | :06:10. | :06:11. | |
to claims of non-recent sexual offences dating between 1958 and | :06:12. | :06:20. | |
1983 made by four men. We've decided that there is insufficient evidence | :06:21. | :06:23. | |
to prosecute. This decision has been made in accordance with the code for | :06:24. | :06:28. | |
Crown prosecutors and our guidance for prosecutors on cases of sexual | :06:29. | :06:32. | |
offences. The CPS worked with police during the investigation. This has | :06:33. | :06:36. | |
helped minimise the time needed to reach a decision once we received | :06:37. | :06:41. | |
the complete file of evidence on the 10th of May. The complainants have | :06:42. | :06:45. | |
been informed and provided with a full explanation in writing. The CPS | :06:46. | :06:50. | |
saying they only got the full file of evidence from the police on the | :06:51. | :06:54. | |
10th of May and weeks later they have made a decision that Cliff | :06:55. | :06:58. | |
Richard will not be prosecuted for allegations of non-recent sexual | :06:59. | :07:03. | |
abuse. Much more reaction to that to come in the next hour. Sport now | :07:04. | :07:06. | |
with Sally in Paris. The day is finally here when the | :07:07. | :07:15. | |
draw for this European Championship made was back in December, England | :07:16. | :07:19. | |
against Wales in Lens was the one everybody noticed. Now we are here a | :07:20. | :07:24. | |
couple of hours before kick-off and after a Welsh victory over Russia | :07:25. | :07:28. | |
and England's disappointing draw, stakes could not be higher. Lots of | :07:29. | :07:33. | |
talk before the game, now time for action. Many people in England and | :07:34. | :07:37. | |
Great Britain certainly looking forward to this game. We certainly | :07:38. | :07:42. | |
are and perhaps even around the world, the fact that it is a game | :07:43. | :07:47. | |
between brothers, if you like. It adds spice to it, adds interest. And | :07:48. | :07:53. | |
that's something which I can only welcome, really. If anything it | :07:54. | :07:59. | |
heightens the occasion rather than lessons it. Whatever's going on | :08:00. | :08:02. | |
around England and there's a lot going on around England, a lot | :08:03. | :08:06. | |
expected of them because they've had great players down the years, | :08:07. | :08:09. | |
there's been a lot of expectancy around England any time they come in | :08:10. | :08:13. | |
to a tournament, there's expectancy, a lot of pressure on England. That's | :08:14. | :08:19. | |
what I meant, we didn't want to get caught up with that. As soon as this | :08:20. | :08:23. | |
game was on the menu, you know what is coming before the start. It's not | :08:24. | :08:30. | |
all about England and Wales today, Northern Ireland have a crucial game | :08:31. | :08:35. | |
against Ukraine in Lyon. Our correspondence Katie Cornel is | :08:36. | :08:39. | |
there. After the Irish lost their opening match to Poland, this really | :08:40. | :08:42. | |
is make or break for them. That's right. An awful lot riding on this | :08:43. | :08:49. | |
for Northern Ireland's players. When they walk out of this tunnel later | :08:50. | :08:54. | |
and into this impressive stadium in Lyon, they know their best hopes of | :08:55. | :08:57. | |
progressing from the group rest on what happens out here on this pitch | :08:58. | :09:02. | |
later against Ukraine. The teams coming to this having lost their | :09:03. | :09:07. | |
opening matches. They know this is their best hope of getting some | :09:08. | :09:12. | |
points on the board later. Speaking to Michael O'Neill, the Northern | :09:13. | :09:15. | |
Ireland manager, about this, he described it as a cup final. He said | :09:16. | :09:18. | |
his team are really enjoying their taste of the Euros, the first major | :09:19. | :09:22. | |
tournament in 30 years, and says they are not ready to go home yet. | :09:23. | :09:27. | |
Lost the first game, I think there is a natural fear of, when do you go | :09:28. | :09:31. | |
home? I think other countries will feel the same. We have to make sure | :09:32. | :09:36. | |
that our motivating factor and I've no doubt it will be. We love our | :09:37. | :09:40. | |
base, we want to stay there as long as we can, so we do. We want to make | :09:41. | :09:48. | |
sure that tomorrow night will be played like a cup final because we | :09:49. | :09:54. | |
know the significance of three points. This is the dugout where | :09:55. | :09:58. | |
Michael O'Neill will be watching later, and he will hope to see an | :09:59. | :10:02. | |
improved performance from the one he saw against Poland. Northern Ireland | :10:03. | :10:05. | |
did not manage a shot on target in that game. I think we can expect | :10:06. | :10:10. | |
them to be on the front foot later against Poland to be more positive | :10:11. | :10:13. | |
and come out of their shell of it. They face a tough task against | :10:14. | :10:17. | |
Ukraine who lost their opening game to Germany, but only just. They ran | :10:18. | :10:23. | |
the world champions close for about 90 minutes. Northern Ireland will | :10:24. | :10:25. | |
need to match them physically out here and they will not be short of | :10:26. | :10:30. | |
support. We are expecting 18,000 Northern Irish fans in this stadium. | :10:31. | :10:35. | |
They have taken over Lyon. They know this is a match their team | :10:36. | :10:38. | |
realistically cannot afford to lose. We wish them and you well. That is | :10:39. | :10:43. | |
all the sport from Paris, now back to you, Victoria. More now on the | :10:44. | :10:48. | |
news that Sir Cliff Richard has been told that he will not face any | :10:49. | :10:54. | |
charges when it comes to non-historic sexual abuse. Let's | :10:55. | :11:00. | |
bring in our home affairs correspondent Danny Shaw. Let's be | :11:01. | :11:05. | |
clear what is happening. We had a statement from the Crown Prosecution | :11:06. | :11:07. | |
Service and I will read the main points of the statement. It says | :11:08. | :11:11. | |
that no further action will be taken against a 75-year-old man, we know | :11:12. | :11:16. | |
that is Sir Cliff Richard, in relation to allegations of | :11:17. | :11:21. | |
non-recent sexual abuse. The CPS has closely looked into claims of sexual | :11:22. | :11:30. | |
abuse made by four men between 1975 and 1988, and decided there is no | :11:31. | :11:35. | |
evidence to prosecute. The CPS has made the decision once it had the | :11:36. | :11:38. | |
full file of evidence quite quickly. It received the full file at the | :11:39. | :11:42. | |
beginning of May so the final decision has not taken long. But it | :11:43. | :11:45. | |
has been working with the police for many months. The decision did not | :11:46. | :11:49. | |
come to them cold, they knew what this investigation was about. I | :11:50. | :11:54. | |
think there will now be some serious questions for the police in | :11:55. | :11:57. | |
particular about why this has taken so long. Sir Cliff Richard's | :11:58. | :12:02. | |
apartment in Berkshire was raided, searched by police back in August | :12:03. | :12:07. | |
2000 14. That was some while after South Yorkshire Police were given | :12:08. | :12:12. | |
this case to investigate. Almost two years. Two years. And for a decision | :12:13. | :12:18. | |
to take that long, it is not unprecedented, but it is quite | :12:19. | :12:22. | |
unusual. Having said that, these are complex matters because they relate | :12:23. | :12:25. | |
to events that happened many, many years ago. Tracking down witnesses, | :12:26. | :12:30. | |
trying to find documentary evidence that might prove or disprove the | :12:31. | :12:34. | |
allegations, takes a long time. So these are cases that can't be dealt | :12:35. | :12:40. | |
with speedily in a matter of weeks. Nevertheless there will be | :12:41. | :12:42. | |
questioned as to how long it has taken. The allegations dated between | :12:43. | :12:51. | |
1958 and 1983 made by four men. Do we know any more detail about the | :12:52. | :12:54. | |
nature of the allegations those four were making? We don't other than the | :12:55. | :12:57. | |
fact they were alleged sexual offences. But slightly confusingly | :12:58. | :13:02. | |
is that at the time this all emerged two years ago, we were told one of | :13:03. | :13:09. | |
the allegations concerned an alleged sexual assault at a religious event | :13:10. | :13:15. | |
at the Bramall Lane stadium in 1985, that is not the time the Crown | :13:16. | :13:21. | |
prosecution are looking at. Whether there has been a mistake or the | :13:22. | :13:24. | |
recollection of a complainant has been wrong is something we will have | :13:25. | :13:28. | |
to find out. But there is a slight difference in the timings of this. I | :13:29. | :13:32. | |
think it's another important thing to say, this isn't necessarily the | :13:33. | :13:36. | |
end of the matter. The Crown Prosecution Service makes that quite | :13:37. | :13:40. | |
clear in its statement. It says CPS prosecutors must also keep every | :13:41. | :13:45. | |
case under review. If appropriate the CPS may change the charges or | :13:46. | :13:49. | |
stop a case. Clearly there have been no charges so far. But every | :13:50. | :13:53. | |
complainant has the right to review the decision not to bring charges. | :13:54. | :13:58. | |
That's a new procedure brought in by the Crown Prosecution Service within | :13:59. | :14:02. | |
the last couple of years. If the complainants in this case wanted a | :14:03. | :14:06. | |
review of the decision the CPS has made, they are entitled to that | :14:07. | :14:11. | |
review. We do not have a statement yet from Cliff Richard nor his | :14:12. | :14:16. | |
agent. One could imagine that he will presumably be feeling relief | :14:17. | :14:18. | |
and a lot of anger? I would have thought so. He was very angry about | :14:19. | :14:23. | |
the way the whole case unfolded, the publicity attached to it. The BBC | :14:24. | :14:29. | |
was filming the raid as the police were carrying out the raid on his | :14:30. | :14:33. | |
Berkshire apartment. Yes, the BBC sent a helicopter to film the raid, | :14:34. | :14:37. | |
some of it was broadcast live on the BBC. I think there will now be | :14:38. | :14:41. | |
serious questions for the BBC in terms of its coverage. No doubt they | :14:42. | :14:45. | |
will justify that in saying this was a matter of public interest, there | :14:46. | :14:49. | |
was an ongoing police investigation that led to a very compact enquiry | :14:50. | :14:55. | |
and a file being passed to the CPS. The fact no charges were brought | :14:56. | :14:59. | |
will now put scrutiny back on the BBC, I have no doubt about that. | :15:00. | :15:04. | |
Thank you for the moment, Danny Shaw, our home affairs | :15:05. | :15:06. | |
correspondent. More reaction throughout the programme. | :15:07. | :15:08. | |
There's exactly one week to go before you decide whether Britain | :15:09. | :15:11. | |
remains in or leaves the European Union. | :15:12. | :15:13. | |
If you're one of the undecideds, you are probably the most important | :15:14. | :15:18. | |
people in Britain right now because you could swing | :15:19. | :15:20. | |
Here's a quick film, which does contain some strobing images. | :15:21. | :15:30. | |
There's one week to go and we are heading to the moment of peak | :15:31. | :15:38. | |
campaign. That down to. Airy fairy. What matters is. The United Kingdom. | :15:39. | :15:40. | |
All of which is to remain. There are still people who are | :15:41. | :15:54. | |
undecided. Lee's claim immigrants are a squeeze | :15:55. | :16:11. | |
on public services like the NHS. Remain camp immigrants benefit the | :16:12. | :16:14. | |
UK economy and pay more in taxes than they take out. | :16:15. | :16:32. | |
There is so much information on so many topics, I don't know where to | :16:33. | :16:39. | |
start. Have a look at the BBC News website, | :16:40. | :16:42. | |
take a few minutes to read each topic and decide who you believe | :16:43. | :16:47. | |
more. As an undecided voters you could | :16:48. | :16:50. | |
swing the result is away. But you have to make your mind up, you have | :16:51. | :16:51. | |
less than a week. Let's now talk to Political | :16:52. | :17:04. | |
Scientist and Polling expert Professor John | :17:05. | :17:06. | |
Curtice and Professor of Political Science | :17:07. | :17:08. | |
at the London School Who do you think will win? 24 hours | :17:09. | :17:18. | |
ago I would have said the balance of problem -- balance of probability | :17:19. | :17:22. | |
was with Remain but it is increasingly moving in the direction | :17:23. | :17:27. | |
of Leave. In the last hour or so we have had another poll released by | :17:28. | :17:31. | |
its loss Morrie, done over the phone, and hitherto phone polls have | :17:32. | :17:37. | |
been saying that Remain were ahead. There have been methodological | :17:38. | :17:39. | |
changes which in part perhaps account for the result but only in | :17:40. | :17:43. | |
part, but if Foss Morrie also saying that Leave are ahead by about 53% to | :17:44. | :17:49. | |
47% and even if we now allow for the fact that maybe referendum opinion | :17:50. | :17:58. | |
polls have a tendency to overestimate things, today's polls | :17:59. | :18:06. | |
suggest there will not be the slingback at the end, but we may be | :18:07. | :18:10. | |
getting close to a situation where the odds on either side winning are | :18:11. | :18:16. | |
very close to 50%. I just want to be clear about what you are saying | :18:17. | :18:19. | |
today, bearing in mind that latest poll that you have looked at. You | :18:20. | :18:23. | |
saying the balance of probability is suggesting to you still that it is a | :18:24. | :18:31. | |
Remain win? I'm saying the probabilities are sufficiently close | :18:32. | :18:34. | |
to 50-50 and I don't think there are many people out there who will want | :18:35. | :18:38. | |
to call it. We will get another poll at 12pm which may clarify things | :18:39. | :18:42. | |
further but public opinion during the course of the last two or three | :18:43. | :18:46. | |
weeks, having been extraordinarily stable throughout the course of the | :18:47. | :18:50. | |
referendum campaign, has, according to both phone and Internet polls, | :18:51. | :18:54. | |
swung fairly substantially to war three point at least in favour of | :18:55. | :19:01. | |
Leave. Simon Hix, who do you believe will win next Thursday? The momentum | :19:02. | :19:05. | |
is with the Leave campaign, it has had a successful week, the Remain | :19:06. | :19:09. | |
campaign seems to have shot its guns and does not have much left. Scare | :19:10. | :19:14. | |
tactics don't seem to be working, the Remain campaign has failed to | :19:15. | :19:18. | |
explain how staying in the EU will allow immigration to come down or | :19:19. | :19:23. | |
how they will address continued high-level for of immigration in | :19:24. | :19:26. | |
terms of public services, and they have failed to articulated a clear | :19:27. | :19:28. | |
vision of Britain taking a leadership role in the EU and a | :19:29. | :19:33. | |
positive vision of Britain remaining in the EU. We have seen a turn in | :19:34. | :19:37. | |
the campaign with Leave looking like they have a more positive vision of | :19:38. | :19:41. | |
Britain's future outside the EU and Remain having not a very positive | :19:42. | :19:46. | |
vision. John Curtice, bearing in mind how sceptical we are after the | :19:47. | :19:50. | |
polls got it wrong at last year's general election, tell us what the | :19:51. | :19:53. | |
phone and online polls are suggesting? If you take the average | :19:54. | :19:58. | |
of all of the online polls since the 27th of May, since we were into | :19:59. | :20:02. | |
powder, which seems to have been the crucial point... Just remind our | :20:03. | :20:12. | |
audience what purdah means. I was going to! It is the point at which | :20:13. | :20:17. | |
the Government has no longer access to the silver service machine to | :20:18. | :20:20. | |
create paper such as that which claims who will be worse off by 2030 | :20:21. | :20:25. | |
is we vote to leave, since both sides have had to rely on their own | :20:26. | :20:29. | |
campaigning resources, since then the Internet polls have, on average, | :20:30. | :20:35. | |
across the range, about a dozen of them, put lead on 52, remain on 48, | :20:36. | :20:46. | |
phone polls on the same period put similar, but the later we have gone | :20:47. | :20:51. | |
it has got better the Leave and was full Remain. The crucial thing is, | :20:52. | :20:56. | |
have we reached a point at which the movement. Or is it something that is | :20:57. | :21:01. | |
going to continue further? If it continues further then Remain will | :21:02. | :21:05. | |
be in serious trouble. If it stops maybe they can claw things back. | :21:06. | :21:09. | |
Something that Simon has just said, I think what today's poll in | :21:10. | :21:13. | |
particular underlines, it was evidenced in polls at the weekend, | :21:14. | :21:17. | |
that the public frankly have decided they do not believe many of the | :21:18. | :21:21. | |
claims made by the Remain side about what the consequences of leaving | :21:22. | :21:25. | |
will be, in particular only around one in five said they believe we | :21:26. | :21:33. | |
will be ?340,000 worth of by 2030 if we stay, and it may be that remain | :21:34. | :21:37. | |
have cried wolf too often and have lost credibility in the eyes of the | :21:38. | :21:42. | |
crucial section of the British electorate. Simon, if Leave win, and | :21:43. | :21:53. | |
they get 51%, and Remain are on 49%, what will be Remain side do, ask for | :21:54. | :21:58. | |
a recount? I think it will be seen as the public have made a decision, | :21:59. | :22:02. | |
I think we have moved to a conception in British politics about | :22:03. | :22:05. | |
popular will and popular sovereignty so the chat about Parliament | :22:06. | :22:08. | |
overturning a result of the referendum, even though a majority | :22:09. | :22:11. | |
of the House of Commons would probably like to stay in the EU, I | :22:12. | :22:16. | |
think they would accept it as an outcome, and the big question is | :22:17. | :22:22. | |
then what happens to David Cameron, the leaderships of the major | :22:23. | :22:24. | |
parties... There would be some political chaos. If Leave win by a | :22:25. | :22:31. | |
couple of percent, what do you predict will happen? The answer is | :22:32. | :22:37. | |
we will be out of the European Union with it being negotiated by either | :22:38. | :22:42. | |
Boris Johnson or Michael Gove, David Cameron will not survive very long, | :22:43. | :22:45. | |
neither will the Chancellor, George Osborne. One of the difficulties he | :22:46. | :22:49. | |
faced yesterday with his attempt to suggest that leaving would be | :22:50. | :22:52. | |
disastrous when he said he would have an emergency budget in which he | :22:53. | :22:59. | |
would have to raise taxes, 68 MP said, we would not back you, you | :23:00. | :23:02. | |
would not get the budget through, and the reaction is that frankly, | :23:03. | :23:06. | |
George, if the UK votes to leave, you will not be around to deliver | :23:07. | :23:10. | |
any kind of budget at all. Thank you very much, John Curtice and Simon | :23:11. | :23:15. | |
Hix, for coming on the programme. We have a statement from Sir Cliff | :23:16. | :23:19. | |
Richard, who has learned this morning, alongside the media, that | :23:20. | :23:23. | |
he will not face any charges for those allegations of historic sexual | :23:24. | :23:29. | |
abuse. This is what Sir Cliff Richard has said: After almost two | :23:30. | :23:34. | |
years under police investigation I learned today that they have finally | :23:35. | :23:37. | |
closed their inquiries. I have always maintained by | :23:38. | :23:41. | |
innocents, co-operated fully with the investigation, and cannot | :23:42. | :23:43. | |
understand why it has taken so long to get to this point! Nevertheless, | :23:44. | :23:49. | |
I am thrilled that the vile accusations and resulting | :23:50. | :23:51. | |
investigation have finally been brought to a close. Ever since the | :23:52. | :23:56. | |
highly publicised and BBC filmed raid on my home, I have chosen not | :23:57. | :24:01. | |
to speak publicly, even though I was under pressure to speak out, other | :24:02. | :24:05. | |
than to state my innocence, which was easy for me to do as I have | :24:06. | :24:11. | |
never molested anyone in my life. I chose to remain sided despite the | :24:12. | :24:15. | |
widely shared sense of injustice resulting from the high-profile | :24:16. | :24:19. | |
fumbling of my case from day one. Other than in exceptional cases, | :24:20. | :24:23. | |
people facing allegations should never be named publicly until | :24:24. | :24:28. | |
charged. I was named before I was even interviewed, and, for me, it | :24:29. | :24:32. | |
was like being hung out like live bait. It is obvious that such | :24:33. | :24:39. | |
strategies simply increase the risk of attracting spurious claims which | :24:40. | :24:43. | |
not only type of police resources and waste public funds but brother | :24:44. | :24:46. | |
tarnish the reputation of innocent people. | :24:47. | :24:51. | |
The statement goes on: There have been numerous occasions in recent | :24:52. | :24:54. | |
years where this has occurred and I feel strongly that no innocent | :24:55. | :24:57. | |
person should be treated this way. I know the truth and in some people's | :24:58. | :25:01. | |
eyes the CPS announcement today does not go far enough because it does | :25:02. | :25:05. | |
not expressly state that I am innocent, which, of course, I am, | :25:06. | :25:10. | |
and therein lies the problem. My reputation will not be fully | :25:11. | :25:14. | |
vindicated because the CPS' policy is to only say something general | :25:15. | :25:17. | |
about insufficient evidence. How can there evidence for something | :25:18. | :25:41. | |
that never took place? This is also a reason why people should never be | :25:42. | :25:44. | |
named publicly until they are charged unless there are exceptional | :25:45. | :25:46. | |
circumstances. To my fans and members of the public, to the press | :25:47. | :25:49. | |
and media, all of whom have shown me such encouraging and wonderful | :25:50. | :25:51. | |
support, I would like to say thank you. It would have been so much | :25:52. | :25:53. | |
harder without you. A pretty furious statement from Sir | :25:54. | :25:55. | |
Cliff Richard, he says he is thrilled that the vile accusations | :25:56. | :25:57. | |
and investigation had been brought to a close, he states several times | :25:58. | :26:00. | |
that he should never have been named and people should not be named | :26:01. | :26:03. | |
unless and until charged, and he worries that his reputation will | :26:04. | :26:06. | |
forever be tarnished. The former Prime Minister Gordon | :26:07. | :26:09. | |
Brown and Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell are giving a speech this | :26:10. | :26:13. | |
morning in Manchester on why staying in the European Union is better for | :26:14. | :26:16. | |
Britain's biggest cities outside London. In a moment we will speak to | :26:17. | :26:23. | |
Norman Smith but first let's have a. Exploited by a company employing | :26:24. | :26:27. | |
foreign workers so that good workers are not undercut by the bad and just | :26:28. | :26:32. | |
as the Dutch have got new laws so do the European Labour and Socialist | :26:33. | :26:35. | |
groups want murals with minimum standards across Europe. Let's make | :26:36. | :26:40. | |
sure that we say to people, if you go to Remain the Labour Party will | :26:41. | :26:43. | |
campaign for minimum standards across Europe, the Tories will not | :26:44. | :26:48. | |
protect 0-hours contract workers but fighting in Europe and let us tell | :26:49. | :26:52. | |
them that we can and we will. And what is the objection of the Brexit | :26:53. | :27:00. | |
people? What are they saying? Leave Europe, join the world. But does the | :27:01. | :27:05. | |
world want us to leave Europe and join the world? America says, stay | :27:06. | :27:11. | |
with Europe! Australia says, stay with Europe! The Commonwealth says, | :27:12. | :27:16. | |
stay with Europe! Every country I know, Albania, Michael Gove mentions | :27:17. | :27:20. | |
them of wanting us to join them, even the Prime Minister of Albania | :27:21. | :27:25. | |
said, stay with Europe! Only Donald Trump, the only person selling it is | :27:26. | :27:29. | |
better for us to leave Europe, of any of the International leaders I | :27:30. | :27:42. | |
know, and there has been a poll in the United States of America as to | :27:43. | :27:45. | |
what a trump presidency would mean for them, 70% said it would make | :27:46. | :27:47. | |
them more insecure, 30% said it would make them Canadians! Trump was | :27:48. | :27:50. | |
asked, who are the three greatest Americans in history, he said the | :27:51. | :27:52. | |
other two are Abraham Lincoln and George Washington. | :27:53. | :27:54. | |
You know what the Brexit people want? They want someone to blame, to | :27:55. | :27:58. | |
blame Europe for problems they have caused themselves. I knew the | :27:59. | :28:03. | |
president of Brazil, he said, when I was a shop steward and people told | :28:04. | :28:08. | |
me and asked me what is wrong with Brazil, who is to blame? I said, the | :28:09. | :28:13. | |
Government. Then I became trade union secretary, and I still said, | :28:14. | :28:17. | |
the Government. Then I became Leader of the Opposition and I would still | :28:18. | :28:21. | |
say, the Government. Then he said, I became the Government, and who did I | :28:22. | :28:25. | |
blame? He said, America! Let's leave Gordon Brown there. | :28:26. | :28:30. | |
Norman, you have been listening to the speech, he is very animated. | :28:31. | :28:36. | |
Yes, the hope for the Remain camp is Gordon Brown can recapture energy | :28:37. | :28:40. | |
among the Labour vote as he did in the Scottish independence referendum | :28:41. | :28:43. | |
so he has been out a lot fronting up the Labour fightback today, in | :28:44. | :28:48. | |
Manchester delay, important because he is a blog, Jeremy Corbyn, John | :28:49. | :28:53. | |
McDonald is with him, there is a push by the Labour Party to rescue | :28:54. | :28:56. | |
the vote in the northern heartlands because when you talk to Labour MPs | :28:57. | :29:00. | |
they are in panic stations about what is going on in the northern | :29:01. | :29:03. | |
constituencies, especially in the most loyal wards, where they say the | :29:04. | :29:09. | |
response on the doorstep is pretty much, we are leaving, that is it. | :29:10. | :29:15. | |
Why? The argument seems to be that all this talk about economic doom if | :29:16. | :29:20. | |
we leave the EU, and a lot of Labour bug, not just immigration, but they | :29:21. | :29:24. | |
take the view that they have endured years of austerity, pay cuts, | :29:25. | :29:29. | |
benefits cut, spending squeezes, and they think, how much worse can it | :29:30. | :29:33. | |
get? Labour MPs are finding it difficult to home the message | :29:34. | :29:43. | |
through, which is why they have wheeled out Gordon Brown to try to | :29:44. | :29:46. | |
make a more positive pitch, so his argument, he put it again and again | :29:47. | :29:48. | |
in his speeches, is that Europe benefits ordinary folk in terms of | :29:49. | :29:50. | |
creating jobs through the single market, in terms of employment | :29:51. | :29:53. | |
rights, guaranteeing things that maternity pay, holiday leave, that | :29:54. | :29:58. | |
sort of thing, and in terms of the future, too, he says with greater | :29:59. | :30:02. | |
integration in the single market in areas like services and digital | :30:03. | :30:06. | |
areas, whom areas for Britain, there would be more jobs here as a result | :30:07. | :30:11. | |
of being part of the EU, so they are relying on Gordon Brown to rescue | :30:12. | :30:14. | |
some of the Labour vote. Vote Leave today saying the Treasury | :30:15. | :30:18. | |
and the Bank of England's forecast of Sony, which means they can, | :30:19. | :30:22. | |
false, not telling the truth, a serious allegation? | :30:23. | :30:28. | |
What is extraordinary about it, you might have expected the wild men of | :30:29. | :30:36. | |
the Brexit campaign to run amok and accuse them of being part of a | :30:37. | :30:40. | |
conspiracy, but these accusations are coming from pillars of the | :30:41. | :30:44. | |
establishment. Nigel Lawson, Norman Lamont, Michael Howard. I mean, they | :30:45. | :30:49. | |
are in effect accusing the governor of the Bank of England of being part | :30:50. | :30:54. | |
of some sort of deliberate stitch up by the government. That is a hugely | :30:55. | :31:01. | |
incendiary charge to make. And ready we've heard from Downing Street | :31:02. | :31:06. | |
saying hang on a just hang on a sec, because these institutions, we are | :31:07. | :31:09. | |
still going to need them after the referendum and they have to be above | :31:10. | :31:14. | |
politics, the on politics, they have to be independent and impartial. | :31:15. | :31:18. | |
There is a slight feeling of a scorched earth strategy, we are | :31:19. | :31:24. | |
going to take out all our critics. The Leave say these guys have been | :31:25. | :31:28. | |
wrong before. They are trying to pitch this referendum is the | :31:29. | :31:32. | |
ordinary folk take on the establishment, the elite, such as | :31:33. | :31:35. | |
the bank. Cheers, thank you very much. Breaking news in the last | :31:36. | :31:40. | |
half-hour that Sir Cliff Richard will face no further action over | :31:41. | :31:46. | |
allegations of historical sex abuse. He says he's thrilled. He says the | :31:47. | :31:51. | |
accusations were vile. He's had an apology just in from South Yorkshire | :31:52. | :31:56. | |
Police, not for the investigation, but South Yorkshire Police saying | :31:57. | :32:00. | |
they are sorry, wholeheartedly, for the additional anxiety caused to Sir | :32:01. | :32:04. | |
Cliff Richard by the Force's initial handling of the media interest of | :32:05. | :32:09. | |
its investigation into the singer, clearly referring to the fact that | :32:10. | :32:13. | |
the BBC knew that South Yorkshire Police were about to read Sir Cliff | :32:14. | :32:19. | |
Richard's Berkshire apartment. South Yorkshire Police apologising | :32:20. | :32:21. | |
wholeheartedly for the additional anxiety caused to Sir Cliff Richard | :32:22. | :32:27. | |
by the force's initial handling of the media interest of its | :32:28. | :32:29. | |
investigation into the singer. It was a night to forget for many | :32:30. | :32:31. | |
England football fans In a moment we'll be | :32:32. | :32:33. | |
asking what the FA's And, the extraordinary account | :32:34. | :32:36. | |
of one of the last surviving Second World War tank troop | :32:37. | :32:40. | |
commanders, David Render With the News here's Annita | :32:41. | :32:42. | |
in the BBC Newsroom Thank you and good morning. Sir | :32:43. | :33:01. | |
Cliff Richard says he's thrilled he will face no further action over | :33:02. | :33:03. | |
allegations of historical sex abuse. The CPS says it has "carefully | :33:04. | :33:11. | |
reviewed" evidence relating to claims of sexual offences | :33:12. | :33:13. | |
between 1958 and 1983 In a statement, Sir Cliff Richard | :33:14. | :33:16. | |
said he was "thrilled that the vile accusations had finally been | :33:17. | :33:23. | |
brought to a close". South Yorkshire Police has | :33:24. | :33:29. | |
apologised wholeheartedly for their handling of media interest in the | :33:30. | :33:30. | |
enquiry. 36 people were arrested and 16 taken | :33:31. | :33:32. | |
to hospital as French riot police clashed with England fans | :33:33. | :33:35. | |
in the city of Lille last night. Supporters of England and Wales had | :33:36. | :33:37. | |
been gathering there ahead of the European Championship game | :33:38. | :33:40. | |
between the teams this afternoon The FA has called on England | :33:41. | :33:42. | |
supporters to behave responsibly. With a week to go until voters | :33:43. | :33:49. | |
decide whether the UK should stay in the European Union, | :33:50. | :33:55. | |
both sides are focusing on the economy and migration | :33:56. | :33:57. | |
on the campaign trail today. The former prime | :33:58. | :34:00. | |
minister Gordon Brown - in a speech in Manchester - | :34:01. | :34:02. | |
has warned that leaving the European Union risks pushing | :34:03. | :34:04. | |
some of the UK's biggest cities Meanwhile, four senior Conservative | :34:05. | :34:07. | |
figures have accused the Bank of England and the Treasury | :34:08. | :34:10. | |
of "peddling phoney forecasts to frighten the electorate" | :34:11. | :34:12. | |
into voting to stay in the EU. We'll be answering your questions | :34:13. | :34:22. | |
on the EU Referendum to give you the facts throughout the day | :34:23. | :34:25. | |
with our BBC experts. If you have a question | :34:26. | :34:27. | |
on the economy, immigration, Chancellor Ken Clarke, | :34:28. | :34:29. | |
who wants Britain to remain in the EU will also be | :34:30. | :34:36. | |
answering your questions at 1130 And at Five thirty today, | :34:37. | :34:38. | |
The UKIP Leader, Nigel Farage who wants us to leave the EU will be | :34:39. | :34:42. | |
taking your questions. You can get in touch via Twitter | :34:43. | :34:45. | |
using the hashtag BBC Ask This The possession and personal use | :34:46. | :34:48. | |
of illegal drugs should be decriminalised in the UK, | :34:49. | :34:55. | |
according to two leading The Royal Society for | :34:56. | :34:57. | |
Public Health, and the Faculty of Public Health, say | :34:58. | :35:05. | |
the government's approach to drugs policy has failed, | :35:06. | :35:07. | |
and there should be more focus The Home Office has | :35:08. | :35:10. | |
defended its record, saying drug abuse has fallen | :35:11. | :35:12. | |
in the last decade. People calling the 111 NHS patient | :35:13. | :35:14. | |
helpline are waiting too long in some areas - | :35:15. | :35:17. | |
and are even being put at risk - The Care Quality Commission found | :35:18. | :35:20. | |
that patients who needed emergency care in the South West | :35:21. | :35:26. | |
of England were being The Met office warns of possible | :35:27. | :35:38. | |
flash flooding in parts of the UK today. Fund re-heavy showers like | :35:39. | :35:44. | |
this are expected in parts of the West and the South of England -- | :35:45. | :35:50. | |
thundery and heavy showers. They could be slow-moving although the | :35:51. | :35:53. | |
wet weather will be localised. Hopefully you can stay dry. | :35:54. | :35:55. | |
That's a summary of the latest news, join me for BBC Newsroom | :35:56. | :35:58. | |
Good morning. It's the day a large proportion of the country have been | :35:59. | :36:09. | |
waiting for, England against Wales in Lens kicks off at 2pm. England | :36:10. | :36:15. | |
really can't afford another slip-up after only drawing their opening | :36:16. | :36:19. | |
match. Wales know they can qualify for the knockout phase with a win. | :36:20. | :36:24. | |
Big day for Northern Ireland. They lost their opening match against | :36:25. | :36:29. | |
Poland. They face Ukraine in Lyon later and cannot afford another | :36:30. | :36:34. | |
defeat. Last night hosts France made it into the last 16 with their | :36:35. | :36:37. | |
second victory. They left it late, though. Injury time goals from | :36:38. | :36:43. | |
Antoine Grisman and West Ham's Dimitri Payet gave them a 2-0 | :36:44. | :36:49. | |
victory over Albania. Eddie Jones has named his team for the second | :36:50. | :36:53. | |
test with Australia in Melbourne on Saturday. George North returns as | :36:54. | :36:58. | |
fly half with Farrell on the wing. And those are your sports headlines. | :36:59. | :37:06. | |
Hundreds of thousands of children in Romania have parents working abroad. | :37:07. | :37:13. | |
Some schools even display posters urging adults to let the authorities | :37:14. | :37:16. | |
know who will be looking after their children | :37:17. | :37:17. | |
According to Save The Children, up to 350,000 children in Romania | :37:18. | :37:21. | |
In around 40% of cases, both parents have left. | :37:22. | :37:24. | |
Earlier we brought you Catrin Nye's full report on the children left | :37:25. | :37:27. | |
Before we talk to one mother who's in this situation, | :37:28. | :37:31. | |
So how many people in here have a mum or dad working overseas? This | :37:32. | :37:41. | |
school has 1200 pupils. Around 200 have parents working abroad. Across | :37:42. | :37:46. | |
remain near Save the Children estimate that there are roughly | :37:47. | :37:49. | |
hundred and 50,000 children with a parent overseas. 40% with both. | :37:50. | :37:55. | |
Where are your parents working? Italy. We are in a town in eastern | :37:56. | :38:01. | |
Romania. This is the third poorest region in the entire EU. What sort | :38:02. | :38:06. | |
of problems do you see in students whose parents have gone overseas? | :38:07. | :38:10. | |
The main problem is that some of them dropped out of school. Some of | :38:11. | :38:16. | |
them get involved into all kinds of difficult situations for them. Maybe | :38:17. | :38:21. | |
drugs, even prostitution. Some of them become violent. Violent? Yeah, | :38:22. | :38:28. | |
violent. Wide? Because they lack their parents attention. Because | :38:29. | :38:32. | |
there are so many Romanian children with parents overseas, save the | :38:33. | :38:36. | |
children have opened up 17 centres like this one in schools across the | :38:37. | :38:40. | |
country. They offer things like help with homework and psychological | :38:41. | :38:42. | |
support for people whose parents are not around. Do you miss your | :38:43. | :38:45. | |
parents? Very much. And you? If you were to say something | :38:46. | :38:59. | |
to your mum about her going? I tell my mum that | :39:00. | :39:03. | |
I love her and I want Emma is 18, both her parents | :39:04. | :39:06. | |
and her brother live Emma's mum Amelia has been in the UK | :39:07. | :39:15. | |
for almost three years. How much better was the wage | :39:16. | :39:31. | |
you could get in Luton What I can take for one | :39:32. | :39:33. | |
month, I take in Romania Do you feel any guilt | :39:34. | :39:39. | |
for leaving her behind? For good life. For something good | :39:40. | :39:45. | |
for her. When she's finished school, | :39:46. | :39:58. | |
Emma will join her family in Luton, where she will study | :39:59. | :40:01. | |
to be a psychologist. Andreea Radulescu and her husband | :40:02. | :40:09. | |
travel from Romania to London to work for four to five months | :40:10. | :40:12. | |
in a row, each year. They have a six-year-old daughter, | :40:13. | :40:15. | |
Ariana Harriet, who stays behind Hello. I. Hello. Hello. Thank you | :40:16. | :40:36. | |
for coming on our programme. Tell us what kind of work you and your | :40:37. | :40:39. | |
husband come to London to do and why? I work as a cleaner and he is a | :40:40. | :40:47. | |
window fitter. We come to make more money here. The wages are not that | :40:48. | :40:54. | |
good. So it is about earning more money so you can have a better life | :40:55. | :40:59. | |
for your family and daughter? Yeah, that's true. And as your little girl | :41:00. | :41:03. | |
gets older, how does she cope with the fact her mum and dad are away | :41:04. | :41:09. | |
for four to five months each year? It's not easy. And now because she's | :41:10. | :41:13. | |
growing she's asking every time we talk to her, when we come back, when | :41:14. | :41:20. | |
is the job finished. She doesn't understand yet what happens. And how | :41:21. | :41:24. | |
is it for her living with her grandparents? She's fine. She loves | :41:25. | :41:30. | |
them and they love her. They spoil her. It's not like money and daddy. | :41:31. | :41:40. | |
And on Skype it's not easy, it's not like cuddling or a hug, can't kiss | :41:41. | :41:45. | |
her on Skype. It's hard for us as well. But we hope she will | :41:46. | :41:51. | |
appreciate when she will grow up. When you leave, how is it when you | :41:52. | :41:57. | |
and your husband leave her for those months? To be honest we don't say | :41:58. | :42:03. | |
anything to her before we leave. We just tell her when we are there, | :42:04. | :42:09. | |
when we get to England. Because I don't want to see her crying or to | :42:10. | :42:13. | |
be upset. Are you going to keep doing this? We are not sure if we | :42:14. | :42:19. | |
can do it for long. Because it is difficult now. It was easy when she | :42:20. | :42:26. | |
was little. But now she is growing, and she knows she needs us more. | :42:27. | :42:30. | |
Yeah. So maybe this year might be the last time? I can't say yes | :42:31. | :42:39. | |
because I don't know. But might be. OK. When you come home is it as | :42:40. | :42:46. | |
though you've never been away or do you have to get to know each other | :42:47. | :42:51. | |
all over again? Sorry, say that again. When you get back to Romania, | :42:52. | :42:58. | |
do you feel you have to get to know your daughter again or is it as | :42:59. | :43:03. | |
though you have never been away? Because we see her every time, every | :43:04. | :43:14. | |
day, it's a bit different. Sorry. But I feel like I miss her for this | :43:15. | :43:24. | |
period of that time. OK. What about missing those important things like | :43:25. | :43:30. | |
birthdays and so on and so forth? That must be tough? We always are | :43:31. | :43:36. | |
together on her birthday, we never miss her birthday. So we are trying | :43:37. | :43:42. | |
to be here when it is her birthday, when she starts school, or when she | :43:43. | :43:48. | |
finishes school. We are trying to work out as much as we can. She is | :43:49. | :43:52. | |
doing a lot of activity. Ballet, dancing. She is having a lot of | :43:53. | :44:02. | |
competition which we are missing. But we are recording her, and we see | :44:03. | :44:08. | |
her. I understand. Thank you for talking to us, and thanks to Ariana | :44:09. | :44:11. | |
as well, really appreciate your time, thank you. All the best. | :44:12. | :44:20. | |
As we've been hearing, there was more violence involving | :44:21. | :44:23. | |
football supporters on the streets of Lille last night | :44:24. | :44:25. | |
after the Russia-Slovakia game, and ahead of the England-Wales game | :44:26. | :44:27. | |
this afternoon just down the road in Lens. | :44:28. | :44:29. | |
There were 36 arrests, and 16 people were | :44:30. | :44:31. | |
Initial concerns were about England versus Russian fans. | :44:32. | :44:34. | |
But last night it appeared to be about English supporters | :44:35. | :44:36. | |
Our correspondent, Danny Savage, was there. | :44:37. | :44:39. | |
The England fans are being followed around by the French riot police. | :44:40. | :44:42. | |
But they're coming at them from several different angles. | :44:43. | :44:50. | |
You've got a line of riot police here. | :44:51. | :44:54. | |
They're trying to keep the English supporters on the move. | :44:55. | :44:56. | |
Not a good night for English supporters here. | :44:57. | :44:59. | |
It doesn't put them in a good light at all. | :45:00. | :45:04. | |
Uefa has threatened to disqualify England | :45:05. | :45:06. | |
from the European Championship if there's a repeat | :45:07. | :45:08. | |
of the violence that was seen in Marseille on Saturday. | :45:09. | :45:10. | |
Uefa has already given a Russia a suspended | :45:11. | :45:12. | |
So how is European Football's governing body likely to respond | :45:13. | :45:17. | |
Let's get more on this from Mark Palios, a former | :45:18. | :45:20. | |
What do you think? I think there was a communique from Uefa would have | :45:21. | :45:32. | |
not seen but heard about and I think they will probably stick to the | :45:33. | :45:34. | |
stance that at this point in time they would only be taking | :45:35. | :45:38. | |
disciplinary action as they would call it in the event of in stadium | :45:39. | :45:45. | |
violence by fans. I think outside of the stadium they said that is | :45:46. | :45:51. | |
outwith their juristic show and in 2004 we had this very issue, | :45:52. | :46:00. | |
following riots at the 98 World Cup, there was a distinct possibility we | :46:01. | :46:03. | |
would be excluded or kicked out of the championships, and we defined | :46:04. | :46:11. | |
the lines then that we, the FA, could not be responsible for every | :46:12. | :46:14. | |
Englishman abroad, responsible for the flans' behaviour in the stadium, | :46:15. | :46:18. | |
and I think that is still the official line that Uefa will be | :46:19. | :46:23. | |
taking today. So you would expect there would not be trouble inside | :46:24. | :46:27. | |
the stadium for England- Wales, but I'm sure I saw a flyer in the rush- | :46:28. | :46:33. | |
Sabatier game yesterday? I think I also heard that -- the Russia | :46:34. | :46:39. | |
Slovakia game. There is an inquiry going on with the decision to take | :46:40. | :46:43. | |
disciplinary proceedings against Webber set off the flare in that | :46:44. | :46:46. | |
match and that will be taken into consideration. Uefa have very | :46:47. | :46:51. | |
distinct responsibility in their eyes which relates to their | :46:52. | :46:56. | |
disciplinary process as opposed to the line taken by French police | :46:57. | :47:01. | |
outside the stadiums. Our audience is seeing live pictures from Lille, | :47:02. | :47:08. | |
mostly England supporters, I think I can see a few Wales flags but I am | :47:09. | :47:12. | |
short-sighted! Looks very happy, kicking of all around across the | :47:13. | :47:18. | |
tops of them, it is being pushed around in a friendly, jovial way. | :47:19. | :47:23. | |
You would like to think if Russia supporters stay out of the way it | :47:24. | :47:27. | |
would be fine in Lille in the run-up to the game, do you think? This is | :47:28. | :47:33. | |
one of the problems, the way the model was given to me in terms of | :47:34. | :47:40. | |
English hooliganism was that the rank and file can go to bars, have | :47:41. | :47:46. | |
drinks, and they were then marshalled by guys who were, if you | :47:47. | :47:50. | |
like, the captains who organised the hooligan element. What has been | :47:51. | :47:56. | |
successful has been the intelligence led approach, picking up and | :47:57. | :48:00. | |
identifying these people then using a very un-British law excluding | :48:01. | :48:08. | |
these people from organising and the dialogue with the German authorities | :48:09. | :48:15. | |
and Portuguese authorities was if the English are in a bar and they | :48:16. | :48:19. | |
are drinking, it may be loutish behaviour but it is far from a riot | :48:20. | :48:25. | |
or unless something sparks it off. In the past, aggressive policing has | :48:26. | :48:27. | |
been seen to spark it off, so we have advocated low profile policing. | :48:28. | :48:33. | |
I'm going to pause you there, I appreciate your time, thank you. | :48:34. | :48:37. | |
Mark Pelias, former FA chief executive. | :48:38. | :48:41. | |
During the Second World War, on June 6th 1944, British troops | :48:42. | :48:46. | |
invaded German-occupied France and faced near-certain death | :48:47. | :48:48. | |
This decisive battle which lasted for about two months | :48:49. | :48:51. | |
was key to bringing about the end of Hitler's dream | :48:52. | :48:54. | |
It involved over 5000 ships, 11,000 planes, | :48:55. | :48:59. | |
and over 150,000 service men from across the Allied forces. | :49:00. | :49:05. | |
The average life expectancy of a new tank officer deployed | :49:06. | :49:08. | |
And at one point during the war, the odds of people surviving | :49:09. | :49:20. | |
But David Render, a fresh-faced 19-year-old at the time, | :49:21. | :49:24. | |
He's now one of the very last surviving Second World War tank | :49:25. | :49:28. | |
troop commanders to have taken part in the D-Day landings in that | :49:29. | :49:31. | |
David, who's 91, is telling his story | :49:32. | :49:41. | |
publicly for the first time, with a book, | :49:42. | :49:43. | |
Tank Action: An Armoured Troop Commander's War 1944-45. | :49:44. | :49:45. | |
Thank you for talking to others, welcome to our programme. By rights, | :49:46. | :49:54. | |
you probably shouldn't be alive, should you? Certainly not! I must | :49:55. | :50:00. | |
say that we were very fortunate to survive. In effect, it was basically | :50:01. | :50:12. | |
due to our squadron leader, he was only 23 and he was a major in charge | :50:13. | :50:18. | |
of A squadron, one of three squadrons in the armed Regiment, A, | :50:19. | :50:27. | |
e-macro, and C, and he taught us, after he sorted out carefully how to | :50:28. | :50:32. | |
fight the Germans, the German tanks were far run the way superior to | :50:33. | :50:38. | |
ours. They had a gun, and 88 millimetre, that could lock is out | :50:39. | :50:43. | |
in two miles range. Sometimes they fired at us with a little flash so | :50:44. | :50:48. | |
we could not see where they had come from. As a tank commander, you were | :50:49. | :50:53. | |
the one who had to stick your head out of the top with the binoculars | :50:54. | :50:57. | |
and navigate, didn't you? Yes, indeed. So you were leading by | :50:58. | :51:06. | |
example? Yes, and my men, unfortunately, were much older than | :51:07. | :51:09. | |
me, they had been up and down the desert but two years, they did the | :51:10. | :51:14. | |
landing on D-Day. I was 19, you cannot blame them, they resented me, | :51:15. | :51:19. | |
as they knew I wasn't going to be around for very long anyway, so the | :51:20. | :51:26. | |
fact was that I had really to fight two walls, one against my own men to | :51:27. | :51:29. | |
get their confidence and the other one was the Germans. When you | :51:30. | :51:35. | |
arrived, what did you see, what happened? I came over on a thing | :51:36. | :51:42. | |
called a landing ship tank and I took 16 Cromwell tanks over and when | :51:43. | :51:48. | |
we landed on the beach at about 4am, the noise was to reflect from the | :51:49. | :51:56. | |
big battleships firing. They put the ramp down and the captain came over | :51:57. | :52:02. | |
with some old-fashioned English words and told me to get my tank | :52:03. | :52:08. | |
sorted quick. The first one went down the ramp and instead of hitting | :52:09. | :52:13. | |
the beach in about eight foot of water it went on down, and it went | :52:14. | :52:18. | |
down, and turned upside down, complete with the two men, normally | :52:19. | :52:24. | |
a tank has five men but we only had two because we were reinforcements, | :52:25. | :52:28. | |
and it turned upside down and disappeared. So you lost two | :52:29. | :52:36. | |
colleagues immediately? Immediately, yes. The captain came over and gave | :52:37. | :52:41. | |
me a touristic ticking off, and I didn't understand what had happened, | :52:42. | :52:45. | |
but I found out 50 years afterwards that we had gone right on the edge | :52:46. | :52:51. | |
of boss Paul in the beach -- right on the edge of a hole in the beach | :52:52. | :52:56. | |
and the tank had fallen into it, so it wasn't really my fault at all. | :52:57. | :52:59. | |
But I can tell you I would rather have been at home with mum than | :53:00. | :53:05. | |
doing that. We were also being shot at by the German meshes met planes. | :53:06. | :53:16. | |
It was not very comfortable. How afraid were you? I wasn't. Were you | :53:17. | :53:26. | |
not? Know, there is too much going on. People ask me very often, word | :53:27. | :53:31. | |
you afraid? The first thing that I had, as I said, to deal with was my | :53:32. | :53:38. | |
men, and they resented me, so I decided the only thing to do was to | :53:39. | :53:43. | |
show them that I wasn't afraid, and so I always led my Troop, which is | :53:44. | :53:47. | |
the most dangerous thing you can do, of course, and as far as fighting is | :53:48. | :53:55. | |
concerned you just have to take a chance on it. But the point was that | :53:56. | :54:02. | |
we would fire at the Germans and then I would advance while we were | :54:03. | :54:09. | |
still firing to the German line and then my Troop would come up with me | :54:10. | :54:17. | |
afterwards and sort of kept their heads down, and that is how we won, | :54:18. | :54:24. | |
and while I was acted that was how I won my spurs with the men because I | :54:25. | :54:31. | |
kept coming back. I got called, The Inevitable Mr Render, in the end. | :54:32. | :54:38. | |
What was the most dangerous time for you and your men? All of it was | :54:39. | :54:43. | |
dangerous, to be honest with you, but there were occasions, like in a | :54:44. | :54:51. | |
place called Cleves in Germany, there were houses on the left with | :54:52. | :54:56. | |
gaps in between where Karadzic hadn't been built, and suddenly a | :54:57. | :55:00. | |
tank in front of up to it in flames -- wet Garrard is -- to Rajs had not | :55:01. | :55:11. | |
been built, and I was behind in a little though armoured car and all | :55:12. | :55:21. | |
of us, there was a terrific bang and the inside of the car was | :55:22. | :55:26. | |
illuminated with the bright light and I said, what was that?! I put my | :55:27. | :55:31. | |
head out and looked and I was looking straight down the gun barrel | :55:32. | :55:38. | |
of this huge gig German Panther, what we called a self-propelled gun, | :55:39. | :55:44. | |
and it had just fired at me but because I had only got such a little | :55:45. | :55:48. | |
vehicle he could not get his gun low enough so the bright light was | :55:49. | :55:53. | |
actually the trace of the armour piercing shell weighing ?22.5-macro, | :55:54. | :56:04. | |
travelling faster than the speed of sound, travelling inches over my | :56:05. | :56:10. | |
head, and the trace was what illuminated the inside. That must | :56:11. | :56:14. | |
have been one of the near squeaks. But I lost two tanks as well, I had | :56:15. | :56:22. | |
one shot at and the other one we lost on minds, we went over a series | :56:23. | :56:27. | |
of minds, blew the floor up and unfortunately killed our driver. | :56:28. | :56:32. | |
That was in Germany. But I was in every action that took place. You | :56:33. | :56:43. | |
eventually got back in 1947 without really physical injuries. What about | :56:44. | :56:48. | |
in your mind? Well, that is the trouble, I must be a bore to my wife | :56:49. | :56:53. | |
and a lot of people because I can't get it out, it is burned into my | :56:54. | :56:59. | |
mind. If I am injured at all, it is in my mind. When I was running my | :57:00. | :57:04. | |
company, when I came back I bought a bankrupt company and built it to a | :57:05. | :57:07. | |
reasonable sized firm and everything, it was successful, and I | :57:08. | :57:15. | |
had a very good right-hand man, and all I can say is that I didn't have | :57:16. | :57:19. | |
time to think about it, I also drove racing cars, Formula 1 and so on, | :57:20. | :57:26. | |
and all I can say is, at the end of the day, I didn't have time to think | :57:27. | :57:32. | |
about it, but now I have not got the company, sold it and everything, and | :57:33. | :57:36. | |
I do other things, and all I can say is that I have had more time to | :57:37. | :57:40. | |
think about it, and just recently I'm absolutely flattered that a very | :57:41. | :57:57. | |
important : -- a very important kernel has wanted to write a book | :57:58. | :58:03. | |
about me and I'm flattered really that not only he but other people | :58:04. | :58:07. | |
are interested in an old has-been like me! You are 91 and looking | :58:08. | :58:14. | |
absolutely terrific, if you don't mind me saying so! Do you mind me | :58:15. | :58:18. | |
asking this, how would you like to be remembered? I'd like to be | :58:19. | :58:27. | |
remembered as a person who was to stand ordinary Joe who, when the | :58:28. | :58:37. | |
time came, didn't run away from protecting my mum and dad and my | :58:38. | :58:45. | |
beloved England, in principle. I am an Englishman, a British chap, it is | :58:46. | :58:52. | |
the same as this medal here, I feel that it hasn't been really given to | :58:53. | :58:57. | |
me only, it has been given to you, and to all the other people in | :58:58. | :59:02. | |
Britain, because, let's face it, it is the French at acknowledging the | :59:03. | :59:06. | |
fact that we stood by them as Britain when they were in deep | :59:07. | :59:11. | |
trouble, and I think that is worth having. Thank you very much, David, | :59:12. | :59:15. | |
a privilege to meet you, thank you for coming on the programme. Thank | :59:16. | :59:18. | |
you for talking to me. Take care. | :59:19. | :59:24. | |
David render. Have a good day, BBC newsroom live is next. | :59:25. | :59:31. | |
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