18/07/2016 Victoria Derbyshire

Good morning. I'm Victoria Derbyshire, welcome to the

programme. Should Britain spent billions of pounds replacing four

submarines that carry Trident missiles? Theresa May says it would

be grossly irresponsible not to but Labour MPs are divided over the

issue. We'll have all the details. One minute's silence will be held

across France in memory of the 84 people killed in Nice. We will have

a report on those most affected. They say you can grieve for three

days, the first two days are very important to be around with your

families. It is still shocked, still terrible and we asked a very sad but

eventually we will be OK. And I will be live in Nice with the latest on

those attacks that killed over 80 people. Also, can be Rio Olympics

and Paralympics, less than three weeks away, match the success of

London 2012? We'll be looking ahead to the games are the group of

Olympians. How did winning gold Welcome to the programme,

we're live until 11 this morning. Also on the programme today,

we'll speak to people living in Turkey, where a staggering 6

thousand people have now been arrested following

Friday's takeover attempt. Plus the latest from Baton Rouge

where three police officers have been shot dead -

the latest casualties of America's Do get in touch on all the stories

we're talking about this morning - use the hashtag Victoria Live

and If you text, you will be charged The top story today. MPs vote on

whether to renew the Trident nuclear weapons programme. Theresa May will

tell them it would be grossly irresponsible not to do so. The

issue divides the Labour Party with leader Jeremy Corbyn promising to

vote against but leadership contenders Angela Eagle and Owen

Smith backing renewal. Chris Mason has more.

Expensive, controversial, but the Prime Minister will argue

Theresa May wants the four submarines that carry nuclear

?31 billion over 20 years is the government's guess.

The subs are based at Faslane on the Clyde, the Scottish

Having exited Europe there are a lot of uncertainties in the world,

I think the British people would expect us to retain security

in the way they've understood for half a century.

Now is not the time to gamble with our defence interests.

But his boss, Jeremy Corbyn, and others in the party disagree.

I think that in the coming months and years I think we will eventually

win the argument and I think we will eventually win the vote

in parliament, both in terms of moral consequences of nuclear war

but also the fact that also the system we're going

for isn't particularly effective and in addition

Government sources admit tonight's vote is not technically necessary

but they say it is important that Parliament has a say.

Ministers are highly likely to get their way and secure backing

Lets talk to Norman Smith in Westminster. Hi, Norman, how will

the vote go? Almost certain to be a huge majority to press ahead with

Trident. The funny thing is, we don't actually have to have a vote,

because Parliament has already agreed we will spend the cash, we

are pressing ahead with building these submarines. Although there is

a kind of fear that we haven't had a formal vote on it since 2007 and it

is bluntly, all about politics. Theresa May wants to send out a

message of the new Prime Minister getting on with the job, doing the

heavy lifting of government and she wants to have a vote on something

that the Tories can agree on after the divisions of the Brexit vote and

she wants to cause Labour maximum grief because she knows of the

profound and huge tensions within the ranks over the issues because

they face a 3-way split with Jeremy Corbyn piffling renewal, some of the

Shadow Cabinet abstaining and some in favour, although Michael Fallon

insisted today that it was not about politics. We have postponed this

vote for several months because of the referendum and the elections

before it. There will be a large and above of MPs, MPs from all sides of

the House or not always supported a nuclear deterrent and will support

it tonight. We don't see this as a party issue. I hope we will get the

largest majority from Parliament. Awkward for Labour because the

official party policy from the last election is to support the renewal

of Trident, we know there is a review going on and we know that Mr

Corbyn would dearly like the party to oppose nuclear weapons although

no sign of a fixed policy imaging any time soon. Today the Shadow

Foreign Secretary Emily Thornberry had to resort to saying that this

was all game playing by the Tories. Theresa May talks about it being

reckless for us not to vote today. I think it is reckless to plough on

ahead with the most expensive of all the options and there are step

dancer can take. I think it's about heart of the Labour philosophy that

we support multilateralism. There's a tradition that goes back to Harold

Wilson and Margaret Beckett and this government is making no effort on

the multilateral front at all. One thing that matters is that the SNP

is opposed to the renewal of Trident, it reflects the growing

divide between Scotland and the rest of the UK and it also matters

because the Trident fleet is based in Scotland, where the SNP say that

if they were independent they would ask

With the rest of today's News, Joanna Gosling in the newsroom. Good

morning. President Obama has urged Americans to stay calm after the

fatal shooting of three policemen in Louisiana. Three other officers were

wounded, one critically, in the attack by a gunman at a petrol

station in Baton Rouge. The gunman was shot dead at the scene. One

minute's silence will be held across France at 11am today in memory of

the 84 people killed in the lorry attack in Nice on Thursday. Former

French President Nicolas Sarkozy has accused the country's government of

failing to do enough to protect the country. 12,000 police observers

have been called up to boost security in the wake of the

killings. EU foreign ministers meeting in Brussels today are

expected to call upon the Turkish president resident bird organ to

respect the rule of law and human rights. As he deals with those who

organised the failed coup against an -- president the dog. Utter

president bird gun. Over the weekend coming acted

swiftly against those he accuses of being part of, or backing the plot.

The present be are under arrest including top military aides and

thousands of members of the judiciary -- 6000 people are under

arrest. Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson is at the meeting of Foreign

Minister is and has added his voice to those calling for restraint. He

is having talks on UK plans to leave the EU and said progress was already

being made. Really do message I will be taking to our friends is that we

will be taking steps to leave the European Union but that does not

mean that we will be leaving Europe, we will not abandon our leading role

in European participation and co-operation of all kinds. I had a

good conversation to that effect last night with the high

representative and she agreed very much that there was a role that

Britain should continue to play. People aged under 35 are set to

become the first generation to earn less than their predecessors

suggests research. The Resolution Foundation found that the generation

who reached adulthood in the year 2000 and ?8,000 less in their 20s

than the previous generation X. If their pay rises at the same rate as

those who went before them the average career earnings of the

course of their working lives will be less than their predecessors.

Taylor Woodrow's high-profile social media spat with canny arrest and Kim

Kardashian continues. She is accusing the couple of character

assassination -- tailor Swift. It began when she complained about a

lyric about her in the song Famous, that was followed by Kim Kardashian

posting a series of videos appearing to show her husband talking to the

singer about the track, claiming that the footage proved that Taylor

Swift had approved the controversial words. She stands by her

allegations. She had not approved them because she had not been told

what was in the lyrics! More about that later.

In a moment we will be in Nice talking to some of the families

affected by the attack on Friday. We will have a report from our

correspondent who has spent the last three days there. This, the sport

with Jessica, and incredible and to The Open at Royal Troon, for those

who do not follow the golf, why was it so stunning? It was incredible.

Henrik Stenson, the world under six, there is so much talk about the top

three in the world going into this and yet Henrik Stenson dominated it.

What a we to claim his first major. He broke records on his way to

clinching The Open and why would the crowds with an exciting final round

battle with Phil Mickelson. Henrik Stenson carded an eight under par 63

final round, and joint record, too good for Phil Mickelson to win by

three shots. Henrik Stenson played the golf of his life. Just look at

this putt. His score of 20 under par is a record for The Open, beating

the score by Tiger Woods in 2000, so he's in good company. He lifts the

claret jug for the first time in 12 attempts. I felt I had not much to

lose, I have been second, been third, only one thing matters,

winning. I knew I had to play as good as I can, more or less, to come

out on top. I'm very happy that I did that. Serve extends and becomes

the first Scandinavian man to win a major. Tyrrell Hatton and Rory

McIlroy were the highest placed British finishers, 16 shots behind.

Somehow influence in the success of an extensive, his caddie comes from

Coventry! The whole weekend, we had the best seat in the house. You are

trying to help your boys as best you can but it was fantastic, to be

around those two, they are great competitors, great to play with, and

it was nice to beat them, if I'm honest! England cricket captain

Alastair Cook blames naive batting for their loss to Pakistan in the

first test. England were chasing runs on the fourth day that stomach

the Pakistan bowlers were in great form. That final wicket was taken by

Mohammad Amir who has just returned to cricket after a spot fixing ban.

Pakistan won by 75 runs and still have the energy to celebrate in

style! We had a side capable of beating Pakistan if we played to our

potential. We left a few things out there which are frustrating, Trevor

and I are discussing it, and players will be disappointed because they

know they are better than that. The beauty of a four Test series is that

you've got a chance to turn it around. Great Britain minus Andy

Murray are into the semifinals of the Davis Cup after beating Serbia.

Kyle Edmund won his match in straight sets to give Great Britain

and unassailable 3-1 lead. Britain now play Argentina at home in

September. Andy Murray, fresh from his Wimbledon rogues, was watching

in Belgrade. Chris Froome has kept his lead in the Tour de France after

coming through one of the hardest mountain stages. On the 15th stage,

he saw off the threat of his nearest challengers to maintain his hold on

the yellow jersey. He is leading by one minute and 47 seconds as he goes

for his third Tour de France victory. If he does win the tour

he'll be the first British cyclist to win 3Com incredible. My headlines

at 930. In just under two hours,

people across France will fall silent to remember the 84 people

brutally killed in the The tragedy has inevitably prompted

a political response, with people being urged to join

the army reserve force, and demands for foreign nationals with links

to radical Islam to be But for many in Nice itself,

the fallout from the attack remains intensely personal,

with funerals taking place, and 18 people, including a child,

still in a critical condition. James, tell us what it has been like

over the last few days? As you can imagine, it has been very, very

subdued. This is Midsummer, they should be tourists everywhere,

enjoying the weather. We were out last night and there were very few

people on the streets. There's still a very large presence here. People

are trying to get back to normal, trying to go out and do things they

would normally do. If you go to Promenade Des Anglais, where the

attack place, runners were out today, people walking their dogs,

although they are reminded of what happened by the memorials that still

litter the main strip. Small piles of flowers and candles, it is very

much in people's consciousness. People still in hospital and only 35

of the dead identified. So many families are still waiting for

answers and there is still a lot of suffering.

they been saying to you? Shock and sadness and something that really

strikes me and we spoke when I was in Paris in November during the

attacks there, this has really been an attack on families. So many

families have been hit by this. So many children and I spent the last

couple of days speaking to some of the people who have been affected

and seeing how they plan to get on with the rest of their lives.

Now memorials to the dead lie on its most famous road.

Private tributes to their very public deaths.

But for one community, prayer and song help.

At the Victor Christian Centre, almost everyone has been affected.

She'd been at the celebrations with her family when the truck came.

Seeing it approach, her husband Thiago had to make

He grabbed his wife and child and jumped off the seafront

Two-year-old Jonathan's playful smile is a hopeful sign he may not

be aware of the carnage he escaped or the injuries he suffered.

Ca va, Jonathan?

His parents have made the whole experience a game,

Apres on a tous saute comme ca.

He didn't see anything because when I jumped,

I had him against my body and his head was against my body.

The rocks on the edge, after, they are like

I was afraid if I hit my head I probably could be dead

Yolande's torment was more public than most.

When her friend lost her baby on the seafront, she put out

an appeal on Facebook and thousands shared it.

I had one mission - find the baby.

And describe to me when you knew he was safe.

I was so relieved I was crying with joy.

Rebecca Boulanger is the church pastor who helped share the post.

We really believe that together we are stronger but we can be

together in the good times, like we celebrated her sister's

baptism a couple of weeks ago, which is when we met the baby

and the family obviously, but we also really need to be

It's easy to be around people when everything is fun and it's

a party, but it's when it gets hard, that's when you see who your friends

are, and who will stand with you and pray with you and believe

and even go out onto the field like she did to look for the baby.

It may not look like much but this little church hidden away

in the centre of Nice is doing what it can

So many people in their congregation were affected in last week's

attacks, and it's a community in need of healing.

In the hills overlooking Nice, another family is grieving.

Fatima Charrihi was a mother of seven, out enjoying the summer

A devout Muslim, she was one of the first to die.

Her sister is joined in prayerful song.

Friends, neighbours, cousins, all come to pay their respects.

Ahmed's pain at his wife's loss is clear.

He was with her minutes before she died.

"I feel all the hate in the world," he tells me.

"And now we have to bury her and I have to deal with all that.

It's important that I have my family around me.

I have to end my days with them now."

Surrounded by relatives, but missing the woman he loved.

He tried in vain to revive his mother.

"And my father in the distance, crouched over my mother.

I ran towards them and I saw a woman performing CPR.

Amina is Fatima's niece, in from Amsterdam to

We are Muslims and our religion says you can grieve for three days.

The first two days are very important to be around your family

It's terrible and we are still very, very sad, but eventually

Faith, it looms large once more in the debate that has

But for some of its survivors, the comfort it provides is crucial.

Well, as I said in that report, the spotlight has once again been thrown

on the role of Islam in France. We should make clear that Mohamed

Bouhlel had no actual links to Isis that have been found by the

authorities. They have made that clear, although Isis has claimed

responsibility, but nevertheless, it does raise questions about the role

of Islam in France and to that end we're joined by two guests this

morning. First, you run a mosque, a newly opened mosque in Nice and a

student from Morocco who is here visiting, we will speaking to you in

a minute. First of all, imam and for our viewers at home, the imam

doesn't speak English. I will be speaking to him in French and I will

let you know what he says. I've asked him what the Muslim

community is telling him at the moment about how they're feeling?

The Muslim community is really, really, really hurt by what happened

by this act committed by this monster.

SPEAKS IN FRENCH He says that the killer didn't choose any of his

victims particularly and actually one of the first to be hit by the

truck as I said in my report, was a Muslim woman.

SPEAKS IN FRENCH He said at least 20 Muslims were

killed in the attacks and her son, who was there on the night, who we

spoke to, is an active member of the community.

SPEAKS IN FRENCH So we shouldn't make comparisons between this

horrific act and the foundation of Islam.

SPEAKS IN FRENCH The story of Islam is one of love, it doesn't matter

about one's religion, a believer or unbeliever. This is abblutly nothing

to do with Islam. -- absolutely nothing to do with

Islam. SPEAKS

IN FRENCH I'm asking him what he believes that should be done to

better integrate Muslims because even if it wasn't Mohamed Bouhlel,

there are serious issues over integration of Muslims in this city.

SPEAKS IN FRENCH He says you shouldn't generalise.

Islam is a real part of French society and these acts are singular

and it is really important to make sure that people come together

during times like these and don't draw distinctions. I'd like to move

on to my next guest. Thank you for joining us. You are a student

visiting from Morocco and you were there on the night. Can you tell us

what happened? Well, in the very beginning I was with my friend at

his apartment. We heard the fireworks so we went to check them

out. We saw the show. When it ended, we started taking pictures and

videos and the promenade was super crowded, there was lots of kids,

children and old people. We were taking pictures and videos until we

hear the people screaming in the back and we looked and we saw them

running and pushing each other. It was very difficult to run because it

was super crowded. So I was shocked at what I saw because I saw the

truck hitting people in the front of me. I didn't understand at the

beginning. I was really shocked and I froze in my place for around five

seconds until I realised I had to run. So I ran towards the beach and

I got separated from my friend. What were you feeling in that moment that

you got separated? Well, to be honest I was really, really scared.

I didn't know what was going to happen to my friend or to me. I went

running to the beach side and there was a bench blocking me from running

so I had to jump over it. I fell on a lady there. You fell on a lady who

was already behind the bench? Yes, she was trying to run too. She was

on the floor. The truck was really close to me. So moments after

jumping around three seconds, I just closed my eyes and then I heard the

bench getting smashed and the lights and everything. So it just passed

right next to me. How are you feeling right now? I'm feeling

really lucky to survive. I'm really lucky. I thank God, I'm so grateful.

And you're on holiday. Yes. Is it going to stop you coming back? To be

honest no, I will come back, I love the city, but it is not safe

anywhere in the world now. Not safe anywhere in the world now. Thank you

for joining us. That's a sentiment I've heard time and time again this

weekend and you've heard from two individuals here who can speak

perhaps on behalf of themselves, but on behalf of the Muslim community.

This is an attack that has hit all kinds of people from all kinds of

backgrounds and all kinds of religions.

STUDIO: Thank you very much, James. James Long Man our reporter in Nice.

Still to come, two days after that attempted takeover

of the government in Turkey, tensions remain high.

We are discussing how the country got to this point?

With three weeks to go, we look ahead to the Rio Olympics

Can the Rio Games match the success of London 2012?

Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

MPs are set to vote tonight on whether to replace the four

submarines that carry the UK's Trident nuclear missiles.

It's not a binding vote but is expected to highlight

Jeremy Corbyn and his supporters are against renewal but others

including Deputy Leader Tom Watson will back it.

The Prime Minister Theresa May says it would be irresponsible for the UK

President Obama has urged Americans to stay calm

following the fatal shooting of three policemen in Louisiana.

Three other officers were wounded, one critically,

in the attack by a gunman at a petrol station in Baton Rouge.

The gunman was shot dead at the scene.

A minute's silence will be observed across France at 11am

this morning, in memory of the 84 people

killed in the lorry attack in Nice on Thursday.

The former French President, Nicholas Sarkozy,

has accused the country's government of failing to do enough

12,000 police reservists have been called up to boost security

European Union foreign ministers meeting in Brussels today

are expected to call on the Turkish president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan,

to respect the rule of law and human rights.

As he deals with those who organised the failed coup against him.

Over the weekend, Mr Erdogan acted swiftly against those

he accuses of being part of or backing the plot.

6,000 people are under arrest, including the President's

top military aide and thousands of members of the judiciary.

The Foreign Secretary, Boris Johnson, is at that meeting

of foreign ministers and has added his voice to those

While in Brussels, he's also having talks on the Uk's

Mr Johnson said progress was already being made.

Clearly the message I will be taking to our friends is that we

have to do the will of the people and will be taking steps to leave

mean that we will be leaving Europe, we will not abandon our leading role

in European participation and co-operation of all kinds.

That is a summary of the news. No other sport with Jessica.

Henrik Stenson broke records on his way to becoming the first

Scandinavian man to win a major comic he clinched the victory at The

Open at Royal Troon by three shots ahead of American Phil Mickelson.

Pakistan beat England by 75 runs in the first test at Lord's, the final

wicket taken by Mohammad Amir, just back in cricket after a spot fixing

ban. Pakistan celebrated in some style! England captain Alastair Cook

blamed the loss on naive batting. Great Britain and into the

semifinals of the Davis Cup after beating Serbia, Kyle Edmund beat his

opponent in straight sets to give Britain and unassailable 3-1 lead.

Andy Murray fresh from his Wimbledon triumph was watching in Belgrade.

Great Britain now play Argentina at home in September. On the 15th stage

of the Tour de France Chris Froome saw off his nearest challengers to

maintain his hold on the yellow jersey. He is leading by one minute

and 47 seconds as he goes for his third Tour de France victory. I will

see you at ten o'clock. Thank you. In just under three weeks the 2016

Olympic Games will start in Rio. This year's Olympics and Paralympics

come at a time of security concerns, the Zika virus and the Russian

athletics doping scandal. We will find out this week

if Russian track and field athletes who have never failed a drugs test

will be allowed to compete. Today a report on allegations

of cheating by Russia in the Sochi Winter Games 2014

Olympics will be published. UK Sport have set Team GB the target

of making Rio the most successful overseas Olympics

by winning 48 medals, So, four years on from

the London games - to take place in the middle

of the night for people watching from the UK -

how excited are you about We have seven Olympic and Paralympic

gold and silver medal winners here to tell us how it

changed their lives and tell us which athletes we should be watching

out for in these games. But first here's one of our spine

tingling films which will give you goosebumps looking back to those

heady days in London, # Don't tell the gods I left a mess,

I cannot do what's been and done, let's run for cover #.

More than seven years after London was

announced as the Olympic venue, the eyes of the world will once

Thousands of competitors are here to take part in

Millions of people around the globe are preparing to tune in to follow

In the next two weeks, we will show all what has

made London one of the greatest cities in the world.

For the athletes gathered here on the eve of

this great endeavour, I say that to you is

given something precious and

To run faster, to jump higher, to be stronger.

It's a golden triumph for Andy Murray.

There is a truth to sport, a

This is what I've dreamt of my entire

In every Olympic sport there is all that matters in life.

And one day we will tell our children and

our grandchildren that when our time came, we did it right.

We have some of Britain's greatest Olympic and Paralympic

Colin Jackson who won silver in the 110m hurdles in his first

won boxing gold in Sydney 16 years ago

MARK HUNTER and ZAC PURCHASE - together won rowing gold in Beijing

Tessa Sanderson-White who's competed at 6 Olympic Games

MICHAEL JAMIESON who won silver in the 200m breaststroke in London 2012

and RICHARD WHITEHEAD - won gold in the T42 200m

Welcome, everyone, so nice to get this collection of people around the

table! I will start with a sombre note, if you don't mind. We know

that world events lately have been pretty horrific and pretty divisive.

And for international harmony the Olympics and Paralympics do unite

people in a way that perhaps not many other sporting events do. Is

that fair? Yeah, I would agree 100%. I think sport has that unique

ability to do that, to galvanise nations in a friendly manner. We

have all experienced, when we go to the Olympics and sit in restaurants

and your parents of athletes who will compete talk to each other,

although they are bitter rivals in the sporting arena but as soon as

you come together you have that general lovely feeling that sport

can truly bring. Tessa? Absolutely. I think the Olympic games is the

greatest sporting show on Earth, it really is. It brings together a

combination of people, you make new friends from it, win, lose, draw

come if you win, fantastic, you enjoy the euphoria, but you can

celebrate with the people who have not done so well. It's just a

sporting show that is unique. A unique window. It was the best

pathway I could ever have chosen, going through sport and going to an

Olympics. Richard, its unite people. -- it unites people. Yes, definitely

in 2012 we saw the effect that the Olympics and the Paralympics have

socially. It broke down barriers. At the time we are at the moment we

need people to come together and support each other, and for me that

is important and the power of sport definitely does that, things

together people from lots of social backgrounds, breaks down a lot of

barriers and it is a tough time at the moment. I think sport is unique.

It has that ability to bring people together, with the Olympics coming

and the world watching, it brings the opportunity for people to have a

bit of peace we put the differences aside, what is happening around the

world, it's such a big occasion, it will draw people from their

situation to unite the nation, you are going to follow your country,

follow the individuals, it's the perfect time. You saw from Euro 2016

how people came together, they've had their atrocities yet all the

countries came together for the championships. Hopefully the

Olympics will do that worldwide. I will ask you all how winning your

medals have changed your lives. You have different stories. Before that

I want to talk about Russia, the fact that we have a report today

from the World Anti-Doping Agency which will shed more light on these

allegations of state-sponsored doping during the Sochi Winter

games. Should clean up Russian athletes be banned from competing in

the Olympics and Paralympics in Rio? I don't mind who starts. Mark? It's

a really difficult question, because you have athletes who are going to

be clean but then you have this kind of government funded programme where

athletes are being made to take these supplements. I think it's

quite harsh. We don't have that in the UK. We portray ourselves as

having clean sport. We had it in rowing with the Russian team, the

actual governing body got banned, the coaches were fired and they had

to bring in new coaches that were supposedly clean. But has apparently

been OK since 2006, that is just one sport. Other sports have that

problem is, we had that problem in 2006. You shook your head when he

said that they were supposedly clean. Look at the results, they

didn't have a single finalist since 2006. We'll have to see what

happens. The only way they will get back to the top is returned to their

old ways. Think the government of sport needs to work from the same

playing field. It needs to be clean. The athletes need to know that they

are going into the games knowing it is about how much training you have

done, and going out and performing. Imagine you are a Russian swim and

you are clean. Imagine if you were banned, a Russian swimmer. Imagine

if you are banned because it is a state-sponsored doping programme.

What would you think? You cannot deny it is a huge decision. I

certainly don't envy the person has to make that final call but there

has to be a line drawn at some stage. If you look at this latest

supplement we've seen in the news lately, Maria Sharapova, and Russian

females, an meldonium, there has been involvement in other Russian

sports. The most important thing we can do now is educate the public

because it's very unfortunate side to spot but we need to acknowledge

it is there because so long we've tried to sweep at the rug, and we

need to look at the positive results which I completely understand but

for me, now looking at, for example, athletes like Tyson gave failing the

test for testosterone which is undeniable it performing enhancing

drug, that's not the same as Alan Baxter, the British skier who failed

the taking code and influenza remedies. And the implication that

that failed test had, not only on his career accent on sport, is

sport, the funding that the UK generated from that sport. The

legacy from that failed test is still there. Colin, should the clean

athletes be banned, should the Russian athletes not be in Rio? If

you are an athlete going to the Olympics the very first thing you

want to feel is that you are representing your country. So if you

are going there and not representing your country, what's the reason for

going? If you win and the flag is raised what flag with a raise feel?

It's that emotion climbing onto the rostrum and seeing your achievements

recognised in the right manner which is representing your country.

Anything of that magnitude. I feel really sorry for the athletes who

have worked really hard for years and years and years to get into a

position, who are clean, to be able to go and compete, and suddenly you

pulled away from it. It seems like you are punished twice, because the

first thing is, you're punished for not going, and then you are punished

because you could achieve what you want because the drug cheats are in

front of you. So for the clean athletes, it's huge. I want a

definitive yes or No, should the clean ones be banned? Yes. Banned.

Because it is a state grant programme, it's on those like you

have to get rid of everyone because you don't know who this cheating so

everyone is guilty by association. It is terrible... You've got to draw

the line somewhere. Because the Russians have proved that are doing

now, the laboratory, it's more like a drug feed, giving them to the

athletes to make them better. If you are going to say to you and you will

be banned, but not you... The evidence is there. Me, I just think

there should be a total ban on everybody. Set that example, said

that standard, because you've got to do that, how else will you abolish

this? Rio The bad thing for these athletes

is these drugs are actually really bad for you, long-term. Yes,

absolutely. Long-term they are destroying their bodies taking this

to get this unfair advantage and I don't understand the logic of that.

I want to ask you about the Zika virus, Mark you're going out to

commentate, I think your wife may have raised an issue or two you

about you going there. Congratulations. So you've taken the

decision to go, the world's top four golfers said no, what do we think?

It is a question, should golf be there? If it is not the pinnacle of

your sport why would you introduce a new sport and one has said he

wouldn't be bothered watching it because it doesn't mean anything to

him. He could have kept his mouth shut? He was fed-up with the same

question. So it is convenient for them to use that as an excuse. I've

done loads of research myself because if you read things in the

paper or online you get so many different things come out and you

don't know what to believe and one of the stats I pulled out that I've

used to convince my wife, there is more chance of me walking down the

street being in a pedestrian accident with a car than me catching

Zika so I've done pretty well up to now. It is frightening because you

know, you don't know what to believe and you think about any Olympic

Games, there is always something that come out in the media that is

ramped up to the max to kind of put people off. The chance may not come

again. It is not that you won't, but if you don't take it right now

because we know what it is like, you trained for so many years and the

Games comes and it is there in front of you, a chance to get a medal and

do well and up your game and you say no. Tell me what you think about the

fact that golf shouldn't be in the Olympics, maybe Zika came along and

it is convenient for some golfers? It was introduced to help the

Olympics reach a greater audience. The IOC is a business and the

Olympic Games, the revenue associate with that is billions of dollars so

I can understand why they've done it. I don't agree with it. In terms

of the Zika virus I think unfortunately, I think, you know,

the golfers in particular have just, they haven't done themselves any

favours with the statements they've made in the media, but I think the

only kind of fear left surrounding the virus is they don't have as far

as I'm aware, a closer treatment or a vaccine to combat it. It time

Richard to put the Paralympics and the Olympics together as one huge

sporting event? Do you prefer it still being separate? I think when

you talk to the athletes and the people that have been involved in

the Olympic and Paralympic movement they all are definitely different in

respect to the values and I think it needs to be separate in the fact

that there is lots of events with the Paralympics and if you put those

with the Olympic programme it would be too big an event and also, the

public wouldn't be able to recognise what which event goes with which

because there are so many events in the Paralympic programme. I feel

show casing an event within the Olympic programme would be better to

highlighting the inclusion of sport. I enjoy the Paralympics, the same as

my fellow Olympians do, their event, and I just don't think it actually

fits together. What sand duning, Zac? I agree. It is an amazing

celebration of Paralympic sport to keep it as its own environment gives

it more focus and more awareness around the world. Keep it separate

and really enjoy the celebration there. I want to ask all of you

about how winning the medals that you have won has changed your life,

if it has changed your life. Tessa, out of everybody here, I think you

won the first medal, LA, in 1984... LAUGHTER

Stop it, you weren't even born, I'm 60!

You look 20 years younger. That's true, Tessa, it's true. It totally

changed my life. I worked until I won the Olympic Games. I had to hold

a full-time job and duck in and out of training and a couple of weeks

after that, I came home with a gold medal and I lost my job. Well, the

company I worked for were liquid dated and I had no sponsorship, I

had to turn the whole thing around and really put myself out there to

find work. There was no Lottery funding and things like that to help

me. So it is it has changed me in the sense that I have had the medal

now, I have had to make it work for me. Without that medal, I think it

would have still been very, very difficult. You know, it has worked

in my favour, it is one of the best achievements I could ever, ever have

done in my life, but you have to really sort of know how o to use it

and when to use T I do a lot of things with schools and I go and do

those and you know, motivational things, they give me a lot of

confidence, I ad hoc speak to people and people ask me to come to their

dinners and talk, it is my living doing those. Audley, you won gold in

2000. How has it changed your life? I went to Sydney, spouting off

telling everything I was going to win a gold and there was a lot

riding on it. At that time bobbing wasn't a lottery funded sport. We

set up the boxing union. We won the Commonwealth Games with four golds.

If we could go to Sydney and win golds, we would become a lottery

funded sport. A lot was riding on it. I knew I was ready to go there

and shine and winning a gold and when I came back, everything changed

from everybody, I came back a household name with the power of the

BBC and I was able to conclude my own television deal, I was able to

turn professional and the beautiful thing where boxing is today is that

everybody knew who I was. You want to be celebrated for who you are and

what you won because it was on the BBC, and because it was a gold, I

had a career with everybody following me as a professional and

boxing the next generation they had the Lottery funding so you see the

story, we have got 12 boxers qualified for Rio. In Sydney we only

had two. Funding, we're in the top three of sporting for boxing. In

2000, we weren't... Now the got people like Nicola Adams hoping to

retain her title in Rio. That's an amazing story. Let me bring in Zac

and Mark, Beijing, gold, London 2012, silver, Mark we were doing a

radio programme with an audience with mums and dads of athletes,

Olympians, kids, people who were inspired by the Team GB athletes and

you told the audience that day that you felt you had let them down by

winning silver and an eight-year-old boy said to you, actually contrary

to what you just said, you've inspired me. It was really, really

moving. Are you reconciled to winning silver in 2012 or not? I

don't think I will ever be satisfied with coming second. It depends on

the expectation of what you're going out to do. If you're going out to

win a bronze or silver, but we were going out to win gold because that's

what we experienced previous to do anything other than that, we failed.

We felt like we let everybody down because we were going interest there

to win. That young boy, I remember that day, it brought back some

memories, but I have had that a lot when you go and speak to kids when

they say, that inspired me. You prepare mentally and physically, the

emotional side you have no control over and when we didn't get to win,

the emotional side just took over and we kind of fell apart on the

podium. Zac, are you reconciled to it? No.

Really? If we look back at 2008... I want to fix this for you. I don't

like this! I know. I know. We had the dream season in 2008. We won

every race and we came back with three World Cup gold medals and

Olympic record and all those wonderful things and fast forward

four years to 2012 and we had the worst season we ever had, we ca last

in the World Cups, our training wasn't as good as it could have

been. The Olympics let us rescue the season with a gold medal and we were

0.7 second off it. When we got to the Games, we weren't on paper going

to make the final. Not everybody outside the sport knew that, but we

knew we had to turn it around. During the Olympic Games you will

try and move on every round, but each race felt like a final because

we were trying to prove to ourselves that we still had it. The fact we

won the heat was a miracle! Now, you should be proud of what you've done.

Let's contrast that feeling of silver with your silver Colin and

yours when a number of swimmers did not perform as expected. Presumably

you have different feelings about the silvers you won? I'm in between

to be honest. I can relate to what Mark and Jack are saying. I went in

under the radar a little bit because 2011 I had an injury so I was only

fifth at World Championships, I didn't have a great deal of pressure

going into London, the reaction from the public was what an amazing

medal. It has been a great performance, but you know, I think

as time went on, for so long, I held on to that seven 100ths as a margin,

that was the difference between success and failure because for us,

Olympic gold is the pinnacle of sport. And you know to be separated

by fractions of a second after putting at least a decade of work

into it and to preparing for it, it's also why we love sport, though,

isn't it? That's what sport is about. For me, my silver medal came,

I was a bronze medallist the year before. Going on to the Olympic

Games which was going to be my very first Olympic Games with these

megastars, Tessa was there as an Olympic champion and being able to

rub shoulders with the likes of these was really inspirational for

me. The next stepping stone was a medal at an Olympic Games at the age

of 21 going on to the blocks, really nervous, but excited about getting

on to the rostrum and I was projecting myself to four years

further on when I would be more experienced and hopefully world

number one. So it was a real stepping stone for me in a very

positive manner. Yeah, Richard, a gold for you at London 2012? I came

from a marathon background so I had to change events completely from

26.2 miles to 200 meters! That's crazy! Unfortunately, I went to the

IPC and tried to get the marathon put into the programme which it

wasn't. Took them to the court of arbitration of sport so it was a

massive journey just to get to London. I remember sitting down with

my coach at the time a bronze medallist in the Commonwealth and

the marathon herself and we were talking about how I was going to get

on the team never mind win. So 18 months after, I changed from

marathon to 200 meters... That's like some bad joke. It really is.

Put in a programme, a really intense programme and get lots of weight on,

a marathon runner is a bit skinny and just get on the team really and

everything happened. I was in great shape, best shape of my life. The

atmosphere of the Paralympics, I embraced that, but the gold medal

wasn't the pinnacle for me, that was about being able to open doors for

me and since then I've run Land's End to John o' Groats for my patron

charity which is what I really wanted to do in sport. The gold

medal hasn't really changed who I am as a person, but changed the

opportunities I got from it. I want one name from each of you, somebody

to look out for, it doesn't have to be a British athlete, it would be

nice if it was, who should we be looking out for in these Games?

Elaine Thompson, 200, she could win the double. A heavyweight young kid,

Acoli he is a heavyweight, but really coming on leaps and bounds

and he could be, I have got a few medallists, but he could be a

surprise Gold Medallist. Mark and Jack have been conferring. I don't

think we have any new youngsters. It doesn't have to be new? Anybody.

They have been winning that event, the men's four. I'm going to pick an

event, it could be the last time we see the lightweight four. It might

be canned in January. In terms of an event, it is a great one to watch

and it could be the last time we see it. Tessa? Young Dean Asher Smith is

like a gazelle and may not get a medal, but looking four years ahead.

She is a fantastic sprinter. James Guy, 200 and 400 mighter and Siobhan

O'Connor. The two of them have come on leaps and bounds and Siobhan, she

was in London as a 15-year-old, so the both of them are going to take

the bull by the horns I think in Rio and we could see medal from them. A

Nottingham lad, so I'll pick somebody from Nottingham, Olly Hind.

He won gold in London, but he is going for three golds in Rio. Very

mature athlete and showed great form this year and hopefully, he

performs, I'm going for the double myself, the 100 and 200.

Thank you all very much, appreciate your coming from the programme.

Coverage on BBC One, BBC Two, and five live. Time for the latest

weather. We've got a heatwave, a short Tom

Heap wave but we will see the best temperatures of the euro, lots of

sunshine in the southern UK, not the case in Scotland and Northern

Ireland thanks to these weather fronts which will bring outbreaks of

rain. This area of high pressure coming into the country, bringing

the hot humid air from the continent will drive hot weather for the next

few days. Mist and fog through the morning, England and Wales, plenty

of sunshine, this is where we will see temperatures soaring, close to

31 Celsius in London this afternoon, cool along the coast, hot anywhere.

We could see them to be showers across North and East England

although they will be well isolated and most places will be dry, some

sunshine across Northern Ireland, turning warmer, for Scotland

generally cloudy away from the central belt, and Alex frame, top

ten richest 22 degrees. -- outbreaks of rain. It looks like a warm night

to come, England and Wales, warm and muggy, no relief from the heat of

the day, particularly Irish Sea coastal parts. On Tuesday the peak

of the heat will be here, even across Scotland and Northern

Ireland, unbroken sunshine and pretty much across-the-board. We

could see Tim pitches rising into the low- mid 30s as this hot and

humid air comes from the near continent and brings his impressive

values -- temperatures rising. Maybe 34 Celsius, possibly 35 in the

south-east, 32 for northern England, 28 or 29 for Scotland and Northern

Ireland. No release into Tuesday night, those temperatures. Be high,

very warm and muggy to come, so there's every of low pressure will

move in, bringing in showers and thunderstorms to Wales, parts of

Northern Ireland, Scotland. Some could be very intense. Frequent

lightning, locally torrential downpours bringing flash flooding,

on Wednesday it looks like the north of the UK will be battered by

Intel's thunderstorms. Another hot day in the South East, -- intense

thunderstorms. On Thursday and Friday it looks like all areas will

be cooler and fresher with warm spells of sunshine and also a few

scattered showers. Hello, it's just after 10 o'clock,

I'm Victoria Derbyshire, welcome to the programme if you've

just joined us. MPs will decide today whether four

submarines should be replaced, carrying nuclear missiles. Labour

politicians are divided, yet the government says they are essential

to security. We'll get the latest from Westminster.

A minute's silence will be held across France this morning in memory

We have been hearing from those caught up in the attack. I was

really scared. I did not know what would happen to my friend or me. The

truck was really close to me. Moments after jumping, around three

seconds, I closed my eyes and then I heard the bench getting smashed. CD

full interview on our website. -- you can see the full interview. With

less than three weeks to go a group of Paralympic and is and Olympians

have been getting us in the mood for the Olympics. I think the Olympic

games and the Paralympics is the greatest show on Earth because it

brings together a combination of people, you make friends from it,

Win, lose, or draw, if you win, fantastic, you'll enjoy the

euphoria, and you can celebrate with the biblical haven't done so well.

It's becoming a bitter war of words between three of the world's

Taylor Swift, Kanye West and Kim Kardashian.

The latest on the celebrity spat in the next hour.

Here's a summary of the latest news with Joanna. MPs will vote today on

whether to replace the four submarines that carry Trident

nuclear missiles. Not a binding vote although it will be expected to

highlight the Labour Party is bit on the issue. Jeremy Corbyn and his

supporters are against renewal although others including the deputy

leader Tom Watson will back it. Theresa May says it would be

irresponsible to the UK to abandon its nuclear weapons.

It's emerged that the gunman who killed three US police officers

in the American city of Baton Rouge, had posted video messages

complaining about the treatment of African Americans at the hands

One of Gavin Long's videos stresses he is not

linked to any group but is "affiliated with justice".

Three other officers were wounded - one critically -

in the attack at a petrol station in Baton Rouge.

The gunman was shot dead at the scene.

France is to put soldiers outside schools, deploy troops to protect

large gatherings and use reservists at tourist landmarks,

as part of its response to the Nice terror attack.

A minute's silence will be observed across the country in the next hour,

The French interior minister spoke in the last hour about

TRANSLATION: The activity of the cells in national territory and

Europe could lead and make certain places vulnerable. France has never

been faced with such a threat to the same level that we are facing now.

European Union foreign ministers meeting in Brussels today

are expected to call on the Turkish president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan,

to respect the rule of law and human rights

as he deals with those who organised the failed coup against him.

Mr Erdogan acted swiftly against those he accuses of being

Six thousand people are under arrest, including the President's

top military aide and thousands of members of the judiciary.

The Foreign Secretary, Boris Johnson, is at that meeting

of foreign ministers - and has added his voice to those

While in Brussels, he's also having talks on the UK's

Mr Johnson said progress was already being made.

have to give effect to the will of the people and will be taking

steps to leave the European Union but that does not

mean that we will be leaving Europe, we will not abandon our leading role

in European participation and co-operation of all kinds.

I had a very good conversation to that effect

last night with High Representative Mogherini and she agreed very

much that was a role that Britain should continue to play.

One of Britain's most important technology firms is to be bought by

a Japanese company for ?24 billion. Shareholders in ARM Holdings based

in Cambridge are expected to approve the deal with Softbank from Japan.

The firm makes microchips including those used in most smartphones

including the Apple and Samsung phones. Philip Hammond has welcomed

the deal. This company is a great success story and the fact that a

Japanese country just weeks after the referendum is prepared to make

this kind of commitment to the UK and prepared to grow that business

in the UK is a resounding endorsement of the resilience of the

British economy and the attractiveness of Britain as a place

for international companies to do business.

People aged under 35 are set to become the first

generation to earn less than their predecessors,

The Resolution Foundation found that the 'millenials

generation' who reached adulthood in the year 2000 earned

?8,000 less in their twenties than the previous

If their pay rises at the same rate as those who went before them,

their average career earnings over the course

of their working lives will be less than their predecessors.

Singer Taylor Swift's high profile social media spat with Kanye West

and Kim Kardashian continues - and she's accusing the couple

It began when Swift complained about a lyric

about her in the Kanye West song Famous.

That was followed by Kardashian posting a series of videos appearing

to show her husband talking to the singer about the track,

claiming the footage proves Taylor had approved

But Taylor Swift is standing by her allegations.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.30.

Thank you very much. A few comments from our viewers, having watched our

discussion with the Olympians and Paralympic and Steve says, great

seeing the discussion, they make us all proud. And this tweet from

Charlie, I told Mark Hunter he had inspired me, I've just furnished my

first rowing and I love it. Smack of just finished my first rowing

season. Do get in touch with us

throughout the morning - use the hashtag Victoria LIVE

and If you text, you will be charged Templemore sport. I noticed you've

got some Olympians, I have some with me, the British tennis players, some

Walker and Liam. 18 days to go until Rio, what will you be doing in those

days to prepare? We will be travelling out to a holding camp

next Tuesday, so we've got a few days before them and we will be in

Sheffield practising altogether with the team. Just about getting ready,

getting the small things ready and then getting on the plane, and just

getting into the atmosphere, soaked up, and getting ready to compete.

Exciting? Very. Liam, you competed at London 2012 so you had host

nation plays, Rio commute qualified by right, the first time a British

and has done that in 20 years. Impressive! Thank you. After London,

I told myself, I really want to qualify in my own right. It was

touch and go at some points, waiting to hear the news about the ranking,

but we got there in the end. It was an amazing feeling to be there. Sam,

first Olympics, has he given you any tips because he's done this before!

Not yet, I'm hoping he will when we get there! It's a new experience for

him as well, since the last one was the home games and now it is his

first away games as well. All really excited to get going. Competing in

our first Olympics, what does it mean to you? Everyone asks and I'm

not sure I can put it into words. It is like that feeling, when I started

playing table tennis, the Olympics is the pinnacle of table tennis, and

the dream is to get medals there. So it's the first step, isn't it, to

qualify, and then get there and try to win the medals. Liam you won

bronze at the 2014 Commonwealth Games in the singles, how much of

the step up with the Olympics be? In Commonwealth week we go there with

more of an expectation to win medals, India and Singapore are the

strongest countries. My aim was to win a medal. I got there and I was

the first English player to win singles out a Commonwealth Games so

that gave me confidence. Now I think we stepped up another level, all

three of us in the team, we won bronze in the World Championships in

March, and now we are going into this Olympics with a lot of

confidence that we can go there and compete, I don't want to say it, but

may be, win a medal! Final question, medals a possibility? Yeah. Anything

can happen! There's always a chance. Thank you so much for coming in,

pleasure to talk to you. They you are, Victoria, 19 days until the

table tennis, edition starts, if you want to cheer them on. Good luck to

me and Sam. Nice to hear from them. Welcome to the programme. It is 13

minutes past ten o'clock on a Monday morning.

The man who killed three policemen in the American city of Baton Rouge,

posted video messages complaining about the treatment

of African-Americans by police, before he carried out the attack.

Gavin Long, a former US marine, was shot dead

after an exchange of gunfire with law enforcement officials.

President Obama has called for unity across the country.

It is so important that everyone, regardless of race or political

party or profession, regardless of what organisations who are a part

of, everyone right now, focus on words and actions that can unite

this country rather than divide it further. We don't need inflammatory

rhetoric. We don't need careless accusations thrown around to score

little points or advance an agenda. We need to temper our words and open

our hearts, all of us. We need what we saw in Dallas this week. As a

community came together to restore order and deeper unity and

understanding. We need the kind of efforts we saw this week in meetings

between community leaders and police, some of which I participated

in when I saw people of goodwill pledged to work together to redo is

violence throughout all of our communities. That is what is needed

right now. And it is up to all of us to make sure we part of the solution

and not part of the problem. Baton ruing is in pain once more.

Police responded to calls that an armed man was on the hideway, he

turn his gun on them. Three police officers were killed.

Three others wounded. One of them critically. A heinous attack on law

enforcement claimed the lives of two police officers. One sheriff's

deputy and injured three others, one of hom today, right now as we speak

is fighting for his life. It is unjustified and it is unjustifiable.

The violence, the hatred just has to stop. The gunman who was shot dead

at the scene has been identified as Gavin Long. It was his 29th

birthday. His motive was unclear, but he said that only violence could

stop the people he called bullies. We have to be loud and clear that

nothing justifies violence against law enforcement. Attacks on police

are an attack on all of us and the rule of law that makes society

possible. This has been a city divided dins Alton Sterling was shot

by police two weeks ago. This violent video started a call for

justice and years of tension between officers and the black community

erupted on to the streets in days of demonstrations. Then came this, a

lone black gunman took aim at police in Dallas killing five officers. It

prompted one of the officers killed to write this on social media.

"These are trying times. Please don't let tate hate infect your

heart." Jackson became a father for the first time only four months ago.

The two other police officers who died were also family men. The call

in this city is for peace. But right now, it seems so very far away.

The two Labour leadership rivals Owen Smith and Angela Eagle

will face-off tonight for the right to challenge the current

Two days after that attempted takeover of the government

290 people lost their lives on Friday night.

The government has now arrested 6,000 people including

thousands of military personnel and judges after the President

Tayyip Erdogan called for a clear-out, a purge

of the "virus" that caused the attempted coup.

Some are accused of being loyal to a moderate cleric

called Fethullah Gulen, who lives in the United States,

once a close ally of the President and helped him to come to power,

but the president has now accused of masterminding the takeover.

Turkey has had four military takeovers since 1960.

The army sees itself as the protector of Turkey's democracy

That means the state shouldn't impose a religion,

Historically the military has stepped in when those values

Recently there have been tensions between the Turkish army

and President Erdogan over his brand of Islamism, and some

A lack of public support is one reason.

President Erdogan has the backing of more than half

There simply weren't enough soldiers involved in the coup attempt

and to take over a country you also need the backing of

President Erdogan has now detained thousands of judges to prevent that.

Perhaps the biggest issue was there was no international

President Erdogan was democratically elected by the people.

It seems a contradiction that the plotters were talking

about upholding democracy, while bombing Parliament.

It's not yet clear who ordered the attempted take-over.

The government has blamed Fethullah Gulen, so who is he?

He leads the Hizmet movement which is followed by

It promotes education and acting for the welfare of others.

Mr Gulen was a friend, an ally of President Erdogan.

They fell out over a corruption scandal in 2013.

Fethullah Gulen now lives in exile in the US and denies being involved

Turkey has called for him to be sent back from the States to face trial.

Let's get the perspective of people who live in Turkey who witnessed

Nader Fekri is British, and a visiting professor living

in Istanbul with his wife and two children, he was there

Erol Temir is a Turkish businessman from Istanbul who took part

in patriotic celebrations over the weekend in support for President

And from the capital Ankara, we have 26-year-old student

Can Demir who believes President Erdogan staged a fake

Lastly, Mehmet Onur Yilmaz is the editor of a local newspaper

in Ankara and is worried about the future of his country.

Welcome all of you. In terms of what the president is doing now,

arresting thousands of people, some military personnel, some judges,

what is that about? The president has for a long time delivered a

narrative is what a parallel State for a fifth Colm operating in Turkey

in the military and the judiciary and the police force and amongst

other parts of the State. These people are supporters of Mr Gulen,

who is an exiled cleric. Mr Gulen says that they are just his

followers, they read his works, he doesn't have any control over them

and they are devoted to a different way of running the country.

President Erdogan was initially an ally of Mr Gulen, however they are

fell out sparly a few years ago and now the Government is hell bent on

rooting out on what they say and see as a threat to the State. So many of

these people who have been arrested are accused of being part of a

moflt, but it must be stressed there is no structure, there is no

organisation. . So we will see what happens. Roll, you were Er out to

the small hours on Saturday night in Istanbul's square in a show of

support for the Turkish Government, for the president, why was that

important to you? Hello. Hi,er roll, can you hear me? Yes, I hear you,

but not just here, but all of Turkey. Tell me why it was important

for you to be out showing support? Because this is not the problem. Mr

Gulen began about 40 years ago and like everywhere in the world, we

help people. He was helping for the good people. He didn't like any time

poor people and poor students. So we didn't know his plan after 30 years

later. That's why he was very good with President Erdogan, but his plan

I think he will be king of Turkey, so I can't explain what I'm

thinking, my English, my opening, but in Turkey now, not all Turkey,

not all Turkish people, so last 13 years we he learn about democracy

from President Erdogan. You are in the capital. Things, I mean are

things back to normal would you say or not really? Not quite really

normal. We still see big trucks protecting the state buildings and

many other buildings. People cannot go through there. Something is

happening which we don't really know what's going on. Right. What do you

think about all the arrests? People from different parts of Turkey were

arrested. Nobody knows who they are. We really don't know how this number

of people could be lifted in this short time. They are suspicious

about new torture cases and hundreds of soldiers without any degree is

detained in sports facilities. Nobody really can explain what is

going on. Members of the constitutional court are detained.

If a Government will not follow its own rules so I don't understand what

is the difference between a soldier, a military coup and the Government.

So it is really, the major problem is nobody feels well and nobody

feels safe in Turkey. Can, do you feel safe? Can, can you hear me?

Yes, I can hear you. Do you feel safe? Yeah, I feel safe. Everything

is normal in Turkey now. That's not what our other guest was saying in

Ankara, tell me why you believe this whole attempted takeover was

actually a stunt by your president? Yes, I think because everything is

controversial made by him, but now, we only talk about the fake coup.

There is nothing controversial for him. I don't understand. Everything

he made was an aringment in Turkey. Yes. Before this coup. Before last

Friday night, but now we are all happy with him. I see what you mean.

I understand. He is powerful again. He was losing his power. He was

losing his popularity. He was becoming weak. But now, he is really

powerful again. Everybody supports him. Even his opposition parties.

Yeah, I understand, yeah. Do you buy that? I think it would be very, very

difficult. I understand conspiracy theories, I understand why everybody

thinks that he is involved somewhere, but the reality of it on

Friday night, we have to remember that President Erdogan initially

Prime Minister Erdogan has won elections over the past dozen years,

four elections as leader of the Government and now as president. He

does have massive support within the country, but also and more

importantly for democracy, when the attempted coup was taking place, all

of the major political parties, the Republican People's Party and the

Nationalist Movement and the ADP came out in support of the

Government and against the coup. And so, you know, you can argue whether

it was a half-hearted attempt, you can argue that it wasn't terribly

well planned or executed, now is not the time to go into that, but the

reality of it is when the president called the people to go out on the

streets, which I must admit at the time, living here, and hearing the

gunshots and hearing the explosions and jets and helicopters flying

overhead, very Carey time, people did heed that call, you know. I

thought tfsz foolhardy, I wouldn't have done it personally, but tens of

thousands across Istanbul, across Ankara, all over people came out

and, you know, we have to see this as a positive thing for democracy.

That people came and supported their elected Government. So I understand

what people are saying about this was a conspiracy, this was something

that if you like a black flag operation by the president, but

there is nothing to indicate it, there is nothing to indicate the

president's charge that this was somehow foreign inspired.

All right, thank you very much all of you, I appreciate you giving your

time this morning, thank you. I know, it is a bit difficult to hear

a couple of our guests, we do like to try, I hope you were able to bear

with us. MPs will decide whether to spend

billions to carry Trident submarines. The Government says the

submarines are essential to our security. We will get the latest

from Westminster. The bit per war of words playing out on social media.

We have got the latest on the celebrity spat between Taylor Swift

and Kayne West and Kim car dashin. With the news, here's Joanna

in the BBC Newsroom. Theresa May will be making her first

overseas visit as Prime Minister this week. She will met Angela

Merkel in Berlin on Wednesday and President Hollande in Paris on

Thursday. Downing Street has said the separate talks will include how

the UK can work with Germany and France as Britain prepares to leave

the EU. Mrs May is expected to discuss counter-terrorism

co-operation after Thursday's attack in Nice which killed 84 people.

MPs are set to vote tonight on whether to renew Britain's nuclear

weapons programme. The renewal would cost ?31 billion. Theresa May says

it will be a gross irresponsibility in the UK to abandon its nuclear

weapons. France is to deploy soldiers outside schools as part of

its response to the news terrorist attack. One minute's silence will be

observed at 11am in memory of the 84 who died. The interview minister

spoke in the last hour about those who died. TRANSLATION: The activity

of the cells on the national territory and in Europe, which could

make our countries vulnerable and encourage others to strike. This

threat, France has never been faced with such a threat to the level that

we are facing now. It has emerged that the Turkish authorities have

detained almost 8000 police officers as they investigate the failed coup

on Friday. European Union foreign ministers meeting in Brussels today

are expected to call on President Erdogan to respect the rule of law

and human rights as he deals with suspects. He has acted swiftly

against those he accuses of being part of the plot backing the plot

with many members of the judiciary among those arrested. Foreign

Secretary Boris Johnson is that the meeting of foreign ministers and has

added his voice to those calling for restraint in Turkey. He's also

having talks on the UK's plans to leave the European Union. He said

progress was already being made. It has emerged that the gunman who

killed three US police officers in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, had posted

video messages complaining about the treatment of African Americans at

the hands of police. When a video made by Gavin Long stresses that he

is not linked to any group but is affiliated with justice. As well as

the three dead officers, three others were wounded, one critically

in the attack at the petrol station in Baton Rouge. The gunman was shot

dead at the scene. That's of the latest news, join me at 11am. Never

sports headlines with Jessica. Henrik Stenson broke records on his

way to becoming the first Scandinavian man to win a major. A

record score of 20 under par clinched the win at Royal Troon by

three shots ahead of American Phil Mickelson. Pakistan beat England by

75 runs in the first test at Lord's. The last wicket was taken by

Mohammad Amir was just come back to cricket after a spot fixing band.

Pakistan celebrated in style. England captain Alastair Cook blamed

the loss on my batting. Great Britain into the semifinals of the

Davis Cup after beating Syria. Kyle -- Serbia. Kyle Edmund won his match

to give Great Britain and unassailable 3-1 lead. Andy Murray

was watching from Belgrade. Britain will now play Argentina at home in

September. In the 15th stage of the Tour de France Chris Froome

maintained his hold on the yellow jersey. Is leading by one minute and

47 seconds as he goes for his third Tour de France victory. That's all

the sports today. But you live in a them people across

France will fall silent in memory of the aid for people killed in Nice. I

spoke to 2-mac about the attack. We are still in shock, we are still in

a time of grief because many of us have friends or relatives who have

been affected by this. At the same time we have to be, as an

organisation, professional and address the reality of the backlash

following these terrorist attacks in terms of Islamophobic hate crimes,

and threats against Muslim communities. That is where we are at

the moment. We are learning a little more each day about the man who did

this, Mohamed Bouhlel, originally from Tunisia. Can you give an

insight into why some immigrants to France from north African

communities are so disaffected? At this time at a political level there

is an attempt to blame this case on migration, or his religion, it has

something to do with his background or religion as much as it has to do

with lorries. That being said, what you are referring to is that there

is a disenfranchised youth in France, in our suburbs and ghettos,

we have created social and economic places where people are banned,

literally, the word banlieue in French means the place we ban

people. But this does not excuse anything, although we do have

structural problems in terms of exclusion and discrimination, this

does not give a permit to fall into radicalisation or petty criminality,

or violence. It will not be efficient in addressing terrorist

threats and we don't also face structural problems we have in

France and that is what you basically mention. What should

politicians do, then? We have several levels of intervention.

First in the short-term on the security front, we are monitoring,

watching so many people and suspecting so many innocent families

just because they are Muslims. And if you look at the European level,

the risk indicators, we are not looking for probable terrorists, but

probable Muslims, so just the fact that people are going to the mosque

regularly and growing a beard and being involved in religious

activities is in itself perceived as a terrorist act. So shifting from

the political motion of terrorism into an objective vision of

security, this is going to help us focus our intelligence services on a

much smaller number of cases but with higher chances of finding real

bad guys and not innocent families. That's not the one. Number two, we

must be able to define what it is to be French, to be British, to be

German, in inclusive terms. If we are dividing our societies into

ghettos, or ethnicities, specific cultures and religions, we are

falling exactly into the trap that Daesh once we us, in their

literature, in their reviews, that is what they want, they say that

basically we want to antagonise European society so that Muslim

committees locally will be persecuted which will make life

easier when we recruit them. So we need to be courageous politically

enough to unite and bring people together, irrespective of their

ethnic and cultural or religious belonging. And finally, we mentioned

it, in the long term we need to address these structural problems.

We need to understand that that is not a causal link between living in

the ghetto and falling into violence but there is not a causal link

between living in the ghetto and falling into violence but there's a

sociological reality which creates the possibility of a terrorist

recruitment, and the more deprived communities are left on their side,

the easier it is for desperate people to go and seek support from

them. Lets get more on the news that Theresa May is going to Berlin.

Norman is at Westminster. We've learned that Theresa May will be

having her first diplomatic encounter with Angela Merkel on

Wednesday in Berlin. What a fascinating encounter! Two women, so

evenly matched in their own ways, both very sober, serious, cautious,

hard-working politicians, people that Kenneth Clarke would no doubt

refer to as "A bloody difficult women". Fascinating meeting, it

follows the meeting between Theresa May and Nicola Sturgeon. All around

we are seeing women in positions of power. The other thing that strikes

me about it is that although David Davis is meant to be in charge of

the Brexit negotiations it's pretty clear that Theresa May will be the

one who at the end of the day runs the show when it comes to Brexit.

Not only is she having the face-to-face talks with Angela

Merkel, the next evening she is off to Paris to see Francois Hollande,

she's put herself in charge of the Cabinet subcommittee on Brexit so

that David Davis and Liam Fox will be sitting around the table, but who

will be at the top of the table, she will! And she has placed one of the

key backers next to breast Johnson in the Foreign Office. Sir Alan

Duncan, an experienced old hand, she's made absolutely sure she's got

her person alongside Boris Johnson. It tells us that Theresa May wants

to make absolutely sure that she's got a grip of what is happening with

Brexiteer. Very interesting. Tell us about this boat regarding Trident.

But write this vote. It's our nuclear deterrent, submarines with

missiles on board, Theresa May says they are essential to protecting the

security of families in Britain. Not what quite a lot of Labour MPs

think, although many do. That is true, although all the indications

are that when MPs vote on this tonight it will be overwhelmingly

passed. Pity much every government since Tony Blair has given approval

for the Trident nuclear submarine fleet to go ahead. So the

expectation is, this is what will happen overnight. There is a lot of

politics around this. In part you think the vote is so that Mrs may

has something she can rally her party around after the divisive

Brexit. It's also going to cause Labour maximum grief because it is

divided over this although today Michael Fallon insisted this was not

the reason the government was doing it. Navin Taylor with postponed this

vote for several months because of the election. I know MPs from all

sides of the house who have supported a nuclear deterrent and I

will vote was poured it tonight so we don't see this as a party

political issue. I hope we get the largest possible majority from

Parliament. But the divisions in the Labour ranks are extraordinary.

Jeremy Corbyn Woolford against the renewal of Trident in defiance of

his party policy which is to support it, his Shadow Defence Secretary and

Shadow Foreign Secretary say we're going to abstain because it's a

political gimmick, and we've got the leadership contenders Owen Smith and

Angela Eagle saying they will back it. The expectation is that half the

Labour Party will back it. So Labour is involved in a 3-way split on this

issue. Thank you, Norman, cheers. Let's speak to three Labour

voters who support each Kismet Meyon's preferred

candidate is the current Jack Scotcher is interested

in what Owen Smith offers, and Anne-Marie Swift is a life-long

Labour voter in Salford. And she prefers Angela Eagle. None

of them are party members, at the moment, so none of them could vote

in this Labour leadership content. -- contest. Let's hear why they

prefer the people and they do prefer. Kismet, why are you in

favour of Jeremy Corbyn even though you don't agree with everything he

does? As a politician he doesn't come across as the norm. He is the

voice of the people, he is more relatable. The way the media have

covered him, the way he dresses and stuff, think it's very unfair,

because of the end of the day it is not like he's wearing jeans to

Parliament, he's still wearing a blazer and a shirt which is quite

smart. He doesn't look like your average politician but what he has

done, not even a year, he's been leader, is a lot. And a massive

turnout rate. 600,000 registered voters now. He's done quite a lot of

Labour. He has been there for 33 years. What has he done becoming

leader? Since being leader everything he's done is first, be a

voice, he has taken public questions into Parliament which I think is a

really big thing because he's genuinely being voiced the us,

forcing our questions, not rewarding them. -- keys being a force for us.

Let me speak to Anne-Marie. The voice of the people although not

feel? No, I want a strong opposition to the Tory government. Someone who

can lead the party to a potential win in the next election. I cannot

see Jeremy Corbyn being that person. Why is Angela Eagle that person as

far as you are concerned? She's got a proven track record in the House

of Commons, held her own against people like the Chancellor which it

was Business Secretary, she's been a lifelong MP. She is a good northern

woman. And it is time we had a woman leader of the Labour Party.

Jack? I mean who could possibly disagree with that? But I would say

this is not a case of going from one extreme to the other which I think

we could see with the sorry, with Angela Eagle becoming leader of the

Labour Party. That's too much of a short from Corbyn to someone who is

essentially Blairite and I think Corbyn has come about because of

that steadfast commitment to social justice and that movement. But I

don't think we see a commitment to the Parliamentary Labour Party from

Corbyn and I think that compromise lies in the vote for Owen Smith who

I believe is a, yeah, is a good compromise between the two. Could he

win an election against Theresa May in the country? Well, I think, the

Corbyn leadership, he hasn't gained... No, Owen Smith, could Owen

Smith? Yes, so he would get the support back from Old Labour voters

who have gone to the Conservatives and Ukip, and I think that's where

the strategy is required that's lacking in the Corbyn leadership.

OK. So I said at the beginning, you're voters, you are not members,

are you going to pay the ?25 to vote in the Labour leadership? So I'm

socially housed by the YMCA, I'm working two jobs and I'm making it

difficult to make ends meet and ?25 is too much for me, that's a week's

food shop. It is a tricky situation. What about you? I think... Are you

going to pay the 25 quid to vote? I haven't ever considered becoming a

member before so I think we're all, I think we all feel the same. We

will share the same view on that, I don't feel ready to do that

straightaway. OK, what about you Ann-Marie? I have got a real issue

with the ?25 thing. It just feels like if you can afford to pay to

become a member of the Labour Party it gives you the right to vote. Even

though I'm supporting Angela Eagle, I'm opposed to that. Right. OK.

That's really interesting. A number of people have said it is just too

much for people to pay that amount... Especially going from ?3

to ?25, that's a huge jump and it is quite unfair for the working class

because it is a large amount of money, you know. It is a large

amount of money for anybody, it is not just the working class actually.

No, in general, I mean, obviously to come people, it is less and more. I

think the issue is why ?25 now at this crucial time that members

supposedly have a say in who the leader of the Labour Party... That's

a good question. I think it is because there has been

a surge in support for the Labour Party from those who have not

necessarily been committed to the Parliamentary Labour Party

throughout. Right? And I think it is a strategic decision made by the NEC

to make sure that although we have seen a lot of support for Corbyn

that doesn't necessarily reflect the overall views of the country. Ann

May radio is it right there is a leadership contest in the Labour

Party at all at this period of time? Right now? Unfortunately I think it

is. It is right. Do you? I can't see Jeremy Corbyn being able to put

together a viable opposition and a party that can really contest a

general election should Theresa May decide to have a general election

sooner rather than later which I suspect she might given that she is

very cleverly positioned herself in the centre now. She is saying the

things that the majority of the electorate want to hear and it

bothers me that we don't have anybody standing up and positioning

themselves as a real true opposition to her right now. I mean, Mr Corbyn

does have the support of hundreds of thousands of people who voted for

him just nine months ago. We hear anecdotally from MPs that some of

those members have apparently changed their mind about Mr Corbyn,

nevertheless, he won an overwhelming mandate nine months ago. But there

are nine million voters out there who are not members of the Labour

Party like myself and I think our voices need to be heard as well and

that's the whole question about the ?25 to become a member of the Labour

Party. It is somehow wrong and it is disrepresentative. OK, thank you

very much. A bitter war of words between three

of the world's biggest celebrities. Taylor Swift is accusing Kanye West

and his wife Kim Kardashian of "character assassination"

in a row over one of Kanye's songs. We can't play you a lot

of his song "Famous" - the video and lyrics are too

explicit for this I should warn you now that we will

be talking about words you may find offensive, but here's a little

of what we can show. # Man I can understand how it can be

hard to love a girl like me. # I don't blame you much for wanting

to be free. # I just wanted you to know if...

... #

In the video Kanye calls Taylor a "bitch."

Last night Kim posted videos apparently showing that Kanye called

In a moment, we'll talk to our arts and music guru Jimmy Blake,

but first let's have a listen to a recording of that

So it's a complicated story and Jimmy Blake

Where do we start? This is a feud that's been going on for a while. In

twine, Kanye West said I'm going to let you finish, but Beyonce had a

better video. Since then the two had a bit of beef as it were. So this

song he has kind of related to that and said that I made her famous, and

that we might still have sex in a weird kind of quay. Way. He said I

made her famous. Has Taylor Swift released a statement? I can't

believe I'm asking that question! Of course, she has! In this case, she

has replied. She has said, you know, I have seen the video,tive heard the

phone call and she acknowledged that that phone call happened, but the

thing that she really has an issue with is the fact that he claims that

he made her famous. She says that she approved the kind of, you know,

we might still have sex, she understands it is not something

that's very nice, but she does see where he is coming from and in that

phone call, she says thanks for calling me, but the bit she has a

problem with is when he says I made you famous and that's the problem,

the thing she had a problem with. At the Grammys when she won album of

the year, she made a speech saying to young girls out there, you're

always going to get someone who tries to cut down your success and

cuts down your ambition and that was seen as a reference to Famous which

had been played at that point. And so in response West slash Kim

Kardashian, what are they saying now? Back again. There hasn't been

another one yet. There hasn't been a second sort of piece from them. At

the moment, all there is this piece on Kim Kardashian's Snapchat of the

full conversation, but Taylor does go full in-depth in her response in

saying it is character assassination that she wasn't given the full song

before it was released and she never gave full approval. Yes, she had a

phone call from Kanye, but was never played the full song. Right, OK. In

terms of Taylor Swift fans, what are they saying? I mean, whenever this

kind of thing happens, Taylor Swift fans are supportive of her. Last

week cal vil Harris had a go at her on Twitter and said, "You're trying

to throw me under the bus." She claimed she had written one of the

songs on his new album. He said, "You're trying to throw me under the

bus." Her fans got behind her and supported her and saying this is

Kanye trying to do one over on Taylor, Calvin tried do it again.