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This morning, an exclusive report on the Isle of Wight Five.

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A group of men convicted of smuggling ?53 million

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But could new evidence suggest they're innocent?

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This chart would have been really important to the jury in reaching a

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conviction because what it purports to show is the fishing vessel coming

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across the track of the container vessel as it moved up the English

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Channel, and that, the police insisted, showed that it was

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possible for drugs to have been transferred from the container

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vessel onto the fishing vessel. We'll bring you that full report

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in the next few minutes. Plus, an exclusive interview

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with a 45-year-old father of two from Yorkshire who's banned

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from having sex unless he gives This has been devastating for people

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around me. The first thing that happened was my children won't speak

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to me now. They've deleted me from Facebook, they don't live in the UK.

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John O'Neill has had a sexual risk order imposed on him.

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He tells us he's not a dangerous man.

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We'll bring you that first and in-depth interview just

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And state-sponsored doping on an unprecedented scale.

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The Moscow laboratory operated for the protection of doped Russian

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athletes within a state directed system.

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The International Olympic Committee is meeting today to decide

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whether the entire Russian team should be banned from

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We'll talk to athletes who say they absolutely should be banned.

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Throughout the programme we'll bring you the latest breaking news

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and developing stories and, as always, really keen to hear

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from you on all the stories we're talking about.

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Do get in touch in the usual ways -

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If you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate.

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MPs have overwhelmingly approved the renewal of the Trident

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in favour - due in no small part to the fact that more

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than half of Labour MPs voted for the deterrent, and

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From Westminster, our political correspondent Tom Bateman

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A vote on the future of Britain's nuclear fleet.

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The result was never really in question.

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A decisive win for the government, backing a new generation of nuclear

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People put politics aside and marched to the lobbies in

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Defence is the first job of government.

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But the vote exposed deep divisions within the Labour Party.

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140 of its MPs voted with the government.

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Their leader Jeremy Corbyn, a lifelong campaigner for

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nuclear disarmament, opposed the motion.

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The plan to replace this ageing nuclear

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fleet was also opposed by the

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Scottish National Party, who say its continuing stationing

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on the River Clyde could speed moves towards

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MPs have been filing out of here after a decisive vote

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What it has also done is expose the deep divisions currently

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That is convenient for a brand-new Prime Minister trying to

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demonstrate unity in her party after the turmoil

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The Prime Minister will hold her first cabinet meeting this morning.

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Last night's Commons win is likely to give her a boost, but many

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Our political guru Norman Smith is in Westminster.

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Another illustration of the deep divisions within Labour. How

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damaging is this one? Extraordinary because in normal times you would

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think if you are a labour leader and more than half of your MPs vote

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against you, this morning you will be scrabbling around picking up the

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pieces, calling emergency meetings, getting on the blower to Rebels,

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desperately trying to shore up your position. That is not what is

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happening. Anything, Mr Corbyn's team seem pretty relaxed. You

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scratch your head and think, why is this? The answer is that they take

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the view that Mr Corbyn's opposition to nuclear weapons is actually

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hugely popular amongst many ordinary Labour Party members. They say

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that's why you got his huge mandate in the first place to become Labour

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leader but they also calculate that in the looming contest to choose a

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new Labour leader, not only does it differentiate himself from his

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potential challengers, Owen Smith and Angela Eagle, who backed

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Trident, but more than that it plays to his narrative as being the dye

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who is going to stand up to the old fusty establishment Parliamentary

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party, the true radical, the grassroots favourite. In other

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words, the vote last night, although it was a huge setback, you would

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think, on the face of it, actually Mr Corbyn's people think it will

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play extraordinarily well for him in the forthcoming leadership contest.

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Thank you, Norman, for the moment. Now over to the BBC

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Newsroom for a summary Thank you and good morning.

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A hand-painted flag of so-called Islamic State has been found at the

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home of the 17-year-old Afghan refugee who attacked several people

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with an axe and a knife on a train in Germany. The teenager was shot

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dead by police in the attack near the southern city of word spoke. Two

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those injured are in a critical condition. The teenager who claimed

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asylum after travelling to Germany as an unaccompanied Minor had been

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living with a foster family. The Russian Olympic committee has

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issued a statement in the last hour saying it stands against doping -

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and the fate of honest athletes shouldn't depend

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on unproven accusations. It comes as the International

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Olympic Committee prepares to decide whether or not to ban all Russian

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athletes from the Games in Rio. Russia is accused of operating

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a state-sponsored doping programme for four years across the "vast

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majority" of summer The country's track-and-field

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team is already banned It's been a raucous start

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to the Republican convention that will confirm Donald Trump

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as the party's There were rowdy scenes when a group

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of delegates were refused permission to register their

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opposition to Mr Trump. Later a series of his supporters,

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including former Mayor of New York Rudy Guiliani,

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made speeches on the theme of the convention,

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Make America Safe Again. Mr Trump introduced a speech

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by his wife, Melania. If you want someone to fight for you

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and your country, I can assure you, he's at the guy. He will never ever

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give up and, most importantly, he will never ever let you down.

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A legal charity says there's evidence of a miscarriage of justice

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in the drug-smuggling convictions of a group of fishermen

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In an exclusive report, our programme investigates

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who were sentenced to up to 24 years in jail for a plot involving nearly

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We've found changed stories and damaged evidence.

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A man who has to give police 24 hours' notice before having sex

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with a woman for the first time has told this programme

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45-year-old John O'Neill has been placed on a sexual risk order

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after being found not guilty of rape.

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But North Yorkshire Police applied for the order after the court

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was told he had a fascination with rape fantasies and was

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You can hear that exclusive interview with us later in the show.

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Los Angeles police are investigating after a Playboy model publicly

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shared a photograph of another woman naked in a gym changing room.

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Captioned "if I can't unsee this then you can't either", Dani Mathers

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posted the image beside one of herself covering her

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She later apologised, saying she thought the Snapchat post

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It's illegal in California to share a person's naked image

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She's also come in for a major social media backlash.

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Later in the programme we'll bring you that exclusive interview

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with a man who has been ordered to give police 24 hour

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notice before any sexual activity with a new partner.

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He says that includes even kissing. That is just after 9:30am.

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We will start with an update on the vacant England manager post it up in

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the last few minutes, the BBC can confirm that the Hull manager Steve

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Bruce had an interview for the position with the FA panel

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yesterday. Sunderland manager Sam Allardyce also held talks last week.

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More on that throughout the day as we get it.

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Chris Froome can enjoy today's rest day at the Tour de France,

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with his lead of nearly two minutes still intact.

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Peter Sagan won yesterday's stage in the Swiss capital Berne,

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but two-time winner Froome crossed the line in 13th to maintain his

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There are now four days of racing before the final stage

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Froome is the race favourite, but isn't taking

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Other teams have said they're going to attack next week in the Alps, at

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this week in the Alps, sorry. And I expect they will do. So to say that

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the two's won, and I don't have any rivals, that's rubbish.

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James Anderson, Ben Stokes and Adil Rashid have all been added

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to the England squad for the second test against Pakistan,

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Anderson missed the opening test defeat at Lord's

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because he was injured, but is expected to return at Old Trafford -

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The Lancashire bowler's recall comes after he was knocked off the top

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of the test bowling rankings by Yasir Shah - what a game

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he had in the first match, taking ten wickets.

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Fresh from his Wimbledon heroics just nine days ago,

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Andy Murray has decided not to defend his Rogers Cup title

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Murray has not played since beating Milos Raonic to clinch the title

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for the second time, and watched as Great Britain

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won their Davis Cup tie against Serbia in

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Murray will train in Majorca before defending his Olympic

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Now, despite failing to make a single appearance at Euro 2016,

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Northern Ireland striker Will Grigg has earned his place among the best

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He's even received as many votes as France midfielder

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Not taking anything away from his footballing ability but it may have

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had more to do with a song sung by fans throughout the tournament.

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The Will Grigg's On Fire song was sung by all fans,

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Will Greg Others on fire. Sonny your defence is terrified Sonny will

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Greg's on fire. No thank you. I've heard enough of

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it. It was one of the most

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audacious drugs smuggling ?53 million worth of cocaine

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was dropped off the side of a giant container ship

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in the English Channel and apparently picked up on a stormy

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night by a group of fishermen They were convicted and given stiff

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sentences, up to 24 years Now a new legal charity that

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specialises in miscarriage of justice cases thinks it's

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uncovered new evidence that proves the men could not have

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committed the crime. Our reporter Jim Reed has been

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following their story. Now here's the shipping forecast

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issued by the Met Office at 0015 today, Saturday, the 29th of May. 24

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years in prison? What? ! What do we do now? The area forecasts for the

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next 24 hours... Humber, Thames, Dover... 24 years as a lifetime. How

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do you expect Jamie's children to get their head around a centre

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fightback? The sentence their father was given was longer than the lives

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that they'd lived. A group of fishermen from the Isle of Wight,

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all now serving long sentences for one of the largest, most audacious

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drug plots in British history. The case against them, a quarter of a

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tonne of cocaine was hit in an acute container ship once way to Holland.

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The drugs were dumped in the English Channel for the men to pick up in

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their fishing boats in the middle of the night. They sailed back to these

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cliffs and tied the sacks to a boy to collect later or for someone else

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to pick up. Hello. Hello, darling. You all right? Yes, good, good,

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good, we're OK. The men involved have left behind wives and

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girlfriends, sons and daughters. Speak to you in a bit. Love you.

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Hello. Jonathan, convicted of organising the plot, is serving 24

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years in a high security prison. They literally came to the door in

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the morning, asked me and the children to stay here said, "We need

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to speak to your husband," took him into the front room and asked a

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range of questions and they said we needed my husband to answer

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questions in connection with a serious crime. "Yeah, OK, whatever,

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this is mad. Are we awake? " When you found out what he was being

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accused of an charged with, what was your reaction? Oh, it's ridiculous.

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What? ! It's just a stupid mistake and he'll be home, which they told

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Flynn. "Don't cry, be brave, that will be home tonight". They even

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told John went he emptied his pockets to keep ?40 in its pocket so

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he could get home that might. But he didn't come home? Didn't come home,

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hasn't been home since January 2011. The facts of this case are murky to

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say the least. Stories have changed, evidence has been damaged. The five

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men have always said they were innocent. That new defence team is

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now planning a fresh appeal. We've spent six months looking in detail

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at the evidence, obtaining exclusive footage, never shown in public

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before. A Bank Holiday weekend six years

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ago, in mid-afternoon a fishing boat, the Galwad, left on what the

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crew claim was a routine trip. When he went out on the 29th, it was

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rough weather. Jamie always fished mid-channel. A lot of the smaller in

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shore boats couldn't get out that deep so obviously it was a good area

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because it wasn't over fished. Nikki Green is the sister of Jamie Green.

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45 years old with three children and no serious criminal record, he was

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the man in charge, the skipper of the boat. Why would he go out in

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conditions like that? Jamie, the weather was forecast to blow until

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about midnight, midnight 1am in the morning and then it would have

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dropped off. That time would have been his travelling time to where he

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would work. So the fact that it was particularly bad weather at that

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point wouldn't have bothered him too much because he would have been out

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on-the-spot when the weather improved and been able to get

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straight to work. So it wasn't unusual then for him to go out in

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those conditions? No. No. No. Not at all. That night, a major drug search

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was taking place in the channel. The full details of Operation Disorient

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have never been made public, but it involves surveillance planes, a

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patrol ship and police look-outs along the coast. Intelligence came

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in that cocaine was being smuggled on huge container ships from South

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America. It appears this vessel, was one of a number being watched that

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night. At some point, both cargo ship and fishing boats came close

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together. The Galwad continued, sailing past fresh water bay. The

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next day, a member of the public spotted 11 water proof sacks tangled

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around a buoy in the same bay. Each packed with a pure form of cocaine.

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Today, the Galwad is rusting away in a boat yard in Cowes, the police

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said the drugs were picked up by this fishing boat and dropped off in

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the bay to be collected later. What we're looking for on board today is

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just anything that might have been missed when the police searched the

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vessel... For years the lawyer Emily Bolton had been living in the US

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working with inmates on Death Row. I'm looking at documents and I'm

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taking photographs of what remains of the electrical equipment on

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board. Now she set up the first charity of its kind in Britain

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specialising in miscarriage of justice investigations. I think the

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police really thought the drugs were down that hole there. What is what?

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That's the tank. If you would like to peer over the edge, you will see

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that that is full of water. It is used to keep lobsters alive before

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they make their way to your plate of the Fire Brigade came into Yarmouth

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Harbour and stuck pumps down there and someone was brave enough to

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climb down the ladder and start looking for signs of drugs being

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stored down there and they found absolutely nothing. Presumably if

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the drugs were stored in watertight bags, which in this case they were,

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it is not surprising they found no trace of the actual cocaine itself?

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You say that the drugs were packed in watertight bags. Actually they

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weren't because several of the bags when they opened them, they then

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ripped open the plastic containers and got into the cocaine, the

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cocaine was damp. You could expect on any vessel that this had carried

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the bags some leakage, some weak cocaine soup and that's why they

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went over the boat with a fine tooth comb, in this case an itemiser, a

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device that detects traces of drugs. It is not that they were just

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looking for a big pile of cocaine, they were looking for a trace and so

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they used the itemiser to see if they could find that cocaine soup

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and they didn't find any. At the time the Galwad was in the channel a

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series of calls were made to the satellite phone on the boat. The

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prosecution said these were evidence that someone on shore was

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co-ordinating the drugs drop. The defence said the timing was a

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coincidence and someone was checking on the health of one of the

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fishermen, a migrant from Eastern Europe. 38-year-old Daniel Payne was

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one of the men on board the fishing boat that night. Is serving 18 years

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in Surrey. It is not in his nature to do that sort of thing. He has no

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need to do that sort of thing. He was happy with his partner. He was

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happy doing his fishing. He had a job. In the building industry and so

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on. And when that sort of tailed off a bit, he went on odd jobs with the

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skipper of the boat and that's what it was. It was just a one off

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fishing trip. Just to get some money. And when you think the last

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time his position coming back through there would have been that

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night, I guess? Yeah. The last time he came in, yeah. Daniel's family

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say he was visited by officers from the Serious Organised Crime Agency,

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and offered a deal to stay out of prison. Two officers came into the

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remand prison where he was and basically offered him immunity if he

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implicated the skipper of the boat in this case if you like. Of course,

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Daniel couldn't do that because there was nothing to implicate him

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with. He couldn't take up the offer. No, he couldn't take up the offer

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because there was nothing to give. Emily Bolton meanwhile has been

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trying to unpick the case against the men. At her charity's office in

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London, she has new evidence which, she says, is their best hope of

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getting an appeal. Well, this chart would have been really important to

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the jury in reaching a conviction because what it purports to show

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here is the fishing vessel coming across the track of the container

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vessel as it moved up the English Channel and that, the police

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insisted, showed that it was possible for drugs to have been

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transferred from the container vessel on to the fishing vessel.

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The case against the fishing boat was based in large part on this

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navigational data. The container ship, was travelling from Brazil to

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the Netherlands and she arrived in the English Channel, the fishing

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boat was just setting off from its home Port of Yarmouth. It made its

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way around the Needles heading south. We've plotted the exact

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course of both ships using navigational data from their on

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board computers. By midnight, the fishing boat was in deep water in

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the middle of the channel. At the same time, the container ship, was

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moving at 19 knots towards the European mainland. Then the key

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moment in the prosecution's case, the container ships moves east and

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the Galwad across her wake. They took photographs of the...

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Emily has commissioned an expert review. She says it shows the

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prosecution got it wrong, leaving out key plot points and using

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damaged data. The prosecution just drew a line between two points and

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asserted that's where the container ship was, what we've got now is the

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GPS digital data from the fishing vessel and the underlying digital

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data for the container ship and we've had an expert look at those

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and draw a far more precise map of what actually happened that night.

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If true, it would mean the paths of the boats were never closer than 100

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meters from each other. The container ship was actually heading

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further south than was presented to the jury at trial. That blows the

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prosecution case right out of the water. 100 meters isn't that far.

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Would it not have been possible for the drugs to be thrown off the side

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and then float towards, float 100 meters towards the fishing boat?

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That's the question we had and we took that question to Plymouth

:23:54.:24:01.

Marine Lab and they worked out any objects jet zaned into the sea. As

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for the cargo boat, it sailed on to the Netherlands, a few days later,

:24:08.:24:11.

it did dock in the UK and was searched. No trace of drugs was

:24:12.:24:18.

found as no one on the Orian was ever arrested. The fishing boat

:24:19.:24:29.

meanwhile took 18 hours to sail back to the Isle of Wight, it was never

:24:30.:24:34.

stopped or boarded. It scired around the south of the island fishing near

:24:35.:24:40.

fresh water bay. The area along the coast where it came back into would

:24:41.:24:43.

have been off his normal route. Not unusual. As I understand it, I think

:24:44.:24:47.

they decided to do some mackerel fishing on the way in. By the time

:24:48.:24:51.

the Galwad returned to its home port, it was being watched. This

:24:52.:24:55.

surveillance footage shows it sailing into the harbour and this,

:24:56.:24:59.

taken by officers on the ground, shows the men coming ashore. The

:25:00.:25:03.

skipper, Jamie Green drives off in the white van. The men went their

:25:04.:25:07.

separate ways, but returned to Yarmouth that evening. It was at

:25:08.:25:13.

this point, three were arrested, all for conspiracy to import cocaine. I

:25:14.:25:18.

was working in the restaurant here where we are now. Somebody told me

:25:19.:25:23.

there was a kerfuffle on the quay involving Jamie and then somebody

:25:24.:25:25.

came in and told me that he been arrested and taken to the mainland

:25:26.:25:30.

later that evening. What was your reaction? A mistake. You know, the

:25:31.:25:38.

police would realise they made a mistake and everything would be OK.

:25:39.:25:44.

The next morning a member of the public spotted 11 sports bags

:25:45.:25:48.

tangled round a buoy in fresh water bay. He called the police. This is

:25:49.:25:57.

number two. Written on the bottom on the bag is Montana Wind. Each sack

:25:58.:26:03.

was packed with high purity cocaine. It is here we get to a key piece of

:26:04.:26:08.

evidence against the five men. Crucial to the convictions. It is

:26:09.:26:11.

the only piece of direct evidence against the men, but the problem

:26:12.:26:16.

with it is it keeps changing. As the fishing boat, the Galwad, was

:26:17.:26:20.

sailing back along the bay, two Hampshire Police officers were

:26:21.:26:24.

stationed on the cliffs keeping look-out as part of Operation

:26:25.:26:28.

Disorient. In the original police log, they recorded someone through

:26:29.:26:33.

six or seven items over board at intervals from the boat. The

:26:34.:26:37.

fishermen say they may have chucked away bags full of old bait around

:26:38.:26:41.

this time. The next day after the drugs were found, those look-outs

:26:42.:26:45.

changed the official log as they are allowed to do. In the new version,

:26:46.:26:50.

there were ten to 12 items, the size of a hold-all tied together in a

:26:51.:26:53.

leub followed by a red floating buoy. But isn't it the case that if

:26:54.:26:58.

you're witnessing something like this, people might not get the

:26:59.:27:01.

details right every single time? Well, these are officers who are

:27:02.:27:05.

trained goat the details right every single time and we are not talking

:27:06.:27:09.

about small details, we are talking about big changes, about the

:27:10.:27:11.

descriptions of what they saw and also where they saw it from. If you

:27:12.:27:16.

look at the surveillance footage, the aerial surveillance where they

:27:17.:27:20.

had a plane up here looking down on the drugs, the first thing you will

:27:21.:27:25.

see is there a long, windy, white rope floating on the surface of the

:27:26.:27:29.

sea here and the sea is a dark grey colour and that rope really stands

:27:30.:27:34.

out. If these two Hampshire officers were up here on the cliff looking

:27:35.:27:37.

out, the first thing they would have described was the rope and they

:27:38.:27:42.

don't mention it. So what possible reason, if any, could the look-outs

:27:43.:27:47.

have to change what they saw? The new defence team can only speculate.

:27:48.:27:52.

One claim, the men were in custody at that point and more time was

:27:53.:27:56.

needed to question them. They needed something to hold them while they

:27:57.:27:59.

continued their investigation because up until that point they

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found no evidence. They continued to find no evidence and that left them

:28:04.:28:08.

in a pickle, but I think that the reason they embellished that

:28:09.:28:11.

evidence was to extend the custody time limits and continue their

:28:12.:28:15.

investigation. The two police look-outs later gave different

:28:16.:28:18.

details of what happened that day. But both were adamant they had seen

:28:19.:28:22.

ten to 12 sax thrown off the fishing boat along with a buoy. They said

:28:23.:28:28.

after they called in the first log entry they had seen extra bags

:28:29.:28:32.

thrown off the boat so the second version was the full picture. The

:28:33.:28:36.

independent Police Watchdog looked into the case and though it found

:28:37.:28:41.

inconsistencies in their evidence, there was not enough to show they

:28:42.:28:46.

fabricated the account. Hampshire Police say they have no on going

:28:47.:28:50.

complaints related to this investigation. At trial, the five

:28:51.:28:57.

men were convicted by majority verdict and sentenced to a total of

:28:58.:29:04.

104 years in prison. The Serious Organised Crime Agency said the

:29:05.:29:06.

operation had stopped a huge amount of cocaine from reaching the streets

:29:07.:29:12.

of the UK. For some people, are just going to think it is too much of a

:29:13.:29:17.

coinsquence that this fishing boat was in the wrong place at the wrong

:29:18.:29:23.

time, twice over. Your question assumes two things, one of which is

:29:24.:29:26.

there were drugs on the Orian, that's never been proven. It appears

:29:27.:29:31.

to us that Operation Disorient really needed to get a result and

:29:32.:29:34.

they started focussing on the fishing boat and from then on

:29:35.:29:37.

interpreted all the evidence that came before them as pointing to

:29:38.:29:42.

guilt. And meanwhile they ignored or didn't even seek other evidence that

:29:43.:29:47.

points in the opposite direction. The new evidence shown in the film

:29:48.:29:52.

has been passed to the Criminal Cases Review Commission who will now

:29:53.:29:56.

decide if the five men can launch a fresh appeal. The National Crime

:29:57.:30:00.

Agency says it can not comment while that investigation is ongoing.

:30:01.:30:05.

And if you want to share that film you can find it on our programme

:30:06.:30:09.

After 10.30am, we'll speak to the daughter of one

:30:10.:30:12.

of the men convicted in that drug smuggling plot.

:30:13.:30:22.

Still to come... This man has to give police 24 hours' notice before

:30:23.:30:28.

having sex with a new partner because he is subject to a sexual

:30:29.:30:33.

risk order. We'll bring you an exclusive interview with John

:30:34.:30:37.

O'Neill in the next few minutes. And should this woman have

:30:38.:30:41.

co-presented Channel 4 News during coverage of the niece Laurie attack?

:30:42.:30:49.

-- the niece Laurie attack. Son columnist Kelvin MacKenzie says she

:30:50.:30:56.

shouldn't have. Here is Annita McVeigh in the BBC

:30:57.:30:59.

newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:31:00.:31:04.

MPs voted overwhelmingly overnight to approve a renewal of the nuclear

:31:05.:31:10.

weapons system. More than half of Labour MPs voted for the deterrent

:31:11.:31:13.

and against their leader, Jeremy Corbyn.

:31:14.:31:22.

A hand-painted flag of the terror group so-called

:31:23.:31:23.

at the home of a 17-year-old Afghan refugee who attacked several

:31:24.:31:27.

people with an axe and a knife on a train in Germany.

:31:28.:31:30.

The teenager was shot dead by police during the attack near the southern

:31:31.:31:33.

Two of those injured are in a critical condition.

:31:34.:31:36.

The teenager, who had claimed asylum after travelling to Germany

:31:37.:31:39.

as an unaccompanied minor, had been living with a foster family.

:31:40.:31:43.

Theresa May is holding her first cabinet meeting as Prime Minister

:31:44.:31:48.

this morning. The members of her new team began arriving at ten Downing

:31:49.:31:52.

St about half an hour ago. Misses me is expected to set out her

:31:53.:31:55.

priorities, including leaving the EU, during the meeting, head of

:31:56.:31:59.

visits to Germany and France later in the week. -- Mrs May.

:32:00.:32:04.

It's been a raucous start to the Republican convention that

:32:05.:32:07.

will confirm Donald Trump as the party's

:32:08.:32:08.

There were rowdy scenes when a group of delegates were refused permission

:32:09.:32:12.

to register their opposition to Mr Trump.

:32:13.:32:14.

Later Mr Trump introduced his wife, Melania, and through the night

:32:15.:32:16.

a series of his supporters, including former Mayor

:32:17.:32:18.

of New York Rudy Guiliani, who made tub-thumping speeches

:32:19.:32:21.

The Russian Olympic committee has declared this morning that

:32:22.:32:26.

it stands against doping - but that the fate of honest

:32:27.:32:28.

athletes shouldn't depend on unproven accusations.

:32:29.:32:30.

It comes as the International Olympic Committee prepares to decide

:32:31.:32:32.

whether or not to ban all Russian athletes from the Games in Rio.

:32:33.:32:36.

Russia is accused of operating a state-sponsored doping programme

:32:37.:32:39.

for four years across the "vast majority" of summer

:32:40.:32:42.

The country's track-and-field team is already banned

:32:43.:32:47.

Los Angeles police are investigating after a Playboy model publicly

:32:48.:32:57.

shared a photograph of another woman naked in a gym changing room.

:32:58.:33:00.

Captioned "if I can't unsee this then you can't either", Dani Mathers

:33:01.:33:03.

posted the image beside one of herself covering her

:33:04.:33:06.

She later apologised, saying she thought the Snapchat post

:33:07.:33:10.

It's illegal in California to share a person's naked image

:33:11.:33:15.

She's also come in for a major social media backlash.

:33:16.:33:21.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at ten.

:33:22.:33:25.

Jessica has the sport headlines now.

:33:26.:33:28.

The BBC's had it confirmed in the last half an hour that Hull

:33:29.:33:31.

boss Steve Bruce had an interview for the vacant England

:33:32.:33:34.

Sunderland boss Sam Allardyce also held talks last week.

:33:35.:33:47.

Peter Sadam won yesterday's Tour de France stage in the Swiss capital,

:33:48.:33:54.

but Chris Froome crossed the line in 13th to minting his grip on the

:33:55.:33:57.

yellow jersey. He has a lead of nearly two minutes.

:33:58.:34:03.

James Anderson, Ben Stokes and Adil Rashid have all been added

:34:04.:34:05.

to the England squad for the second test against Pakistan,

:34:06.:34:08.

Anderson missed the opening test defeat at Lord's

:34:09.:34:11.

because he was injured, but is expected to return at Old Trafford -

:34:12.:34:14.

Andy Murray has decided not to defend his Rogers Cup title

:34:15.:34:17.

The world number two has not played since beating Milos Raonic

:34:18.:34:21.

for the second time, and watched as Great Britain

:34:22.:34:25.

won their Davis Cup tie against Serbia in

:34:26.:34:26.

Murray will train in Majorca before defending his Olympic

:34:27.:34:30.

More sport at ten o'clock. Thank you very much. Norman is in

:34:31.:34:36.

Downing Street, where Theresa May is holding her first Cabinet meeting of

:34:37.:34:43.

senior government ministers. They have all be on their best

:34:44.:34:46.

behaviour this morning. They all arrived well ahead of 9:30am, they

:34:47.:34:51.

all trooped in, didn't really say anything. Even Boris Johnson didn't

:34:52.:34:54.

pose too much on the doorstep, so they all piled on and I guess they

:34:55.:34:57.

now have to scramble to see where they are around that big table,

:34:58.:35:01.

because that will tell them what the pecking order is, where they are in

:35:02.:35:06.

the new May government, how close they are to Mrs Mayall whether

:35:07.:35:09.

they've been booted down to the end of the table. As for business, we

:35:10.:35:16.

are told Mrs May wants to say to her ministers, we can't allow this

:35:17.:35:19.

government to be totally defined by the issue of Brexit. She wants

:35:20.:35:23.

social justice, she says, to be a part of the government agenda.

:35:24.:35:28.

Remember when she was on the steps of Downing Street after becoming

:35:29.:35:30.

Prime Minister, she talked a lot about how it was going to be a

:35:31.:35:34.

government for working people, not the privileged few, so that will be

:35:35.:35:37.

her message this morning. But there's no getting away from it,

:35:38.:35:43.

Brexit is the big deal. I don't know if you can cast your eyes down

:35:44.:35:46.

towards the end of Downing Street. There is a big building, which is

:35:47.:35:51.

number nine Downing St. That is going to be the new Brexit

:35:52.:35:55.

department, so that is where David Davis, the new Brexit minister is

:35:56.:35:59.

going to be based and that's where civil servants are going to be and

:36:00.:36:01.

that's where all the hard graft is going to have to be done about

:36:02.:36:06.

getting us out of the EU. There had been a view that he would be bobbed

:36:07.:36:10.

off to the old department for energy and climate change down the road

:36:11.:36:16.

along Whitehall. The fact that he's in Downing Street suggests to me

:36:17.:36:19.

that Brexit is absolutely going to be at the heart of this government

:36:20.:36:22.

but is it also an indication that Mrs May wants to keep tabs on what

:36:23.:36:28.

is going on, so the David Davis is within easy hailing distance? One

:36:29.:36:33.

other thing to support that theory, she's appointed one of her key

:36:34.:36:39.

allies, Alan Duncan, a experienced Conservative MP, as Boris Johnson's

:36:40.:36:43.

number two in the Foreign Office, basically as the minister for Boris,

:36:44.:36:47.

to keep an eye on him, to make sure he behaves. So you get the sense

:36:48.:36:51.

that Mrs May is just trying to make sure she's got an absolute grip on

:36:52.:36:55.

everything and in particular on Brexit. And I wonder, Norman, how

:36:56.:36:59.

seriously you think Theresa May as Prime Minister is going to take the

:37:00.:37:03.

input of the Cabinet. Tony Blair became famous for his discussions

:37:04.:37:08.

with his closest aides on the sofa, David Cameron had his trusted former

:37:09.:37:12.

school pals and Notting Hill colleagues, didn't he? I think it is

:37:13.:37:15.

going to be read different because as we know, she's pretty much

:37:16.:37:21.

disbanded the old Cameroon Notting Hill set. They've been cast to the

:37:22.:37:24.

winds. Oliver Letwin, one of those key figures, today announced he

:37:25.:37:28.

wouldn't be standing at the next election. You think they've gone

:37:29.:37:31.

back to their cafes and Notting Hill and think it is game over because

:37:32.:37:33.

Theresa May seems to be planning a very different style of government.

:37:34.:37:38.

In terms of listening and involving other departments, I suspect the

:37:39.:37:41.

concern of other departments might be not so much whether she is in

:37:42.:37:45.

listening mode but that she might be fingers in Piedt mode because she's

:37:46.:37:49.

one of those politicians who likes to get involved in the nitty-gritty,

:37:50.:37:58.

to have a complete grasp of what's going on, so I suspect there may be

:37:59.:38:01.

some nervousness that Mrs May as Prime Minister might be quite

:38:02.:38:03.

interventionist in what other departments are doing and, above

:38:04.:38:05.

all, what is going on in those Brexit departments. Thank you very

:38:06.:38:06.

much, Norman. This morning, an exclusive interview

:38:07.:38:15.

with a man who has to give police 24 hours' notice before

:38:16.:38:18.

having sex with a woman 45-year-old John O'Neill has been

:38:19.:38:20.

placed on a sexual risk order after being found

:38:21.:38:24.

not guilty of rape. After being cleared,

:38:25.:38:25.

the judge took the unusual step of describing him

:38:26.:38:27.

as "a very dangerous individual". During his trial a fascination

:38:28.:38:29.

with sado-masochism was raised, It prompted North Yorkshire Police

:38:30.:38:32.

to apply for the order, which means he has to tell police the name,

:38:33.:38:37.

address and date of birth of any woman he wants to have any form

:38:38.:38:41.

of sexual activity with - including kissing -

:38:42.:38:43.

24 hours in advance. Mr O'Neill, an IT consultant,

:38:44.:38:48.

describes it as a "living hell". He's due back in court next month

:38:49.:38:53.

to learn if the restriction on his sex life will be dropped

:38:54.:38:55.

or made into a full order He's been speaking exclusively

:38:56.:38:59.

to us this morning. First of all, thank you very much

:39:00.:39:20.

for talking to us. We really appreciate your time. Why have you

:39:21.:39:24.

had this sexual risk order served upon you? This is the mystery that

:39:25.:39:30.

me and my lawyers have been trying to figure out. We were amazed that

:39:31.:39:40.

the police maybe application after a unanimous acquittal of the only

:39:41.:39:45.

crime I've ever been accused of. We think it is sour grapes. They lost

:39:46.:39:49.

in court. They didn't just lose, they were humiliated in court for

:39:50.:39:57.

having utterly failed to do any detective work. But it must have

:39:58.:40:00.

been explained to you when it was served upon you why. What did they

:40:01.:40:08.

tell you? The reasons are... To get an SRO, you need an act of a sexual

:40:09.:40:15.

nature which necessitates the risk order. The act on which they rely

:40:16.:40:22.

are scratching and biting during sex. Consensual sex? Yes. If that

:40:23.:40:29.

necessitates a sexual risk order, they're going to have to be writing

:40:30.:40:34.

an awful lot of sexual risk orders. I would suspect the majority of the

:40:35.:40:37.

population is going to be subject to a sexual risk order. The real reason

:40:38.:40:44.

is, they lost the trial and they're misusing this new set of laws to

:40:45.:40:50.

effectively put me on a retrial for rape after an acquittal, because it

:40:51.:40:57.

is the same evidence, it is the same witnesses, it is just a retrial in

:40:58.:41:01.

miniature. Have you had sex with anyone since this order was imposed

:41:02.:41:06.

upon you? No. If you break the order, breach the order, by having

:41:07.:41:10.

sex with someone without telling the police first, what could happen to

:41:11.:41:15.

you? If I breach any part of the order, not just the 24 hour notice

:41:16.:41:21.

part, I will potentially go to prison for five years and,

:41:22.:41:26.

regardless of what the breaches, I am actually accused of a breach, but

:41:27.:41:32.

regardless of what the breach is, I become a convicted sex offender,

:41:33.:41:36.

even if the breach wasn't a sexual act. So, for instance, the breach

:41:37.:41:40.

I'm accused of is refusing to hand over my PIN number to my iPhone.

:41:41.:41:50.

That act will get me five years in jail and makes me a convicted sex

:41:51.:41:54.

offender. It's obscene, it's ridiculous. First of all, SROs can't

:41:55.:42:01.

have obligations. By prohibitive orders. I've been obliged unlawfully

:42:02.:42:06.

by this order to provide information to the police. I sought legal advice

:42:07.:42:14.

with my lawyers, who checked with other lawyers, we made absolutely

:42:15.:42:17.

sure this wouldn't be a breach and after I got back advice, I'm

:42:18.:42:22.

accused. I was thrown in jail, charged and on the 19th of August, I

:42:23.:42:28.

will have a trial and if I lose, for that act, I become a convicted sex

:42:29.:42:34.

offender. It is utterly ridiculous. If you were to disclose to the

:42:35.:42:37.

police that you were going to have sex with someone 24 hours later,

:42:38.:42:40.

what information would you have to give them? I have to give name,

:42:41.:42:48.

address and date of birth. Of? Of any woman that I intend to have any

:42:49.:42:52.

sexual contact with. It is broader than just having sex. What does it

:42:53.:42:58.

include? It's ridiculous. Sexual conversation would be included.

:42:59.:43:03.

Kissing is included. It is so sweeping, it's ridiculous. It is so

:43:04.:43:09.

badly worded. I could breach this order by accident. How? If I have a

:43:10.:43:15.

sexual conversation, the police could come along and say, "Right,

:43:16.:43:21.

that's sexual contact". And with the PIN number, me and my lawyers had

:43:22.:43:27.

100% consensus that this wasn't a breach. I was arrested anyway. You

:43:28.:43:31.

can get arrested by accident with these orders. Except part of the

:43:32.:43:36.

restrictions are on mobile phone use and internet use. And that's the

:43:37.:43:45.

most damaging part of this. You have reported the 24 hour at sex

:43:46.:43:48.

noticed... That headline grabbing part I understand that is what the

:43:49.:43:51.

bill want to read about but that's not the most damaging part from my

:43:52.:43:54.

point of view. The most damaging part is the making available on

:43:55.:44:03.

request clause any communications device that I use. Effectively that

:44:04.:44:07.

means, if I don't own the device and carry it with me 24 hours a day, I

:44:08.:44:12.

can't use it. You can see how you would breach the order by not giving

:44:13.:44:15.

the police your mobile phone PIN number because they need to be able

:44:16.:44:19.

to access it. At SROs are only supposed to be prohibitive, they are

:44:20.:44:24.

not allowed to require me to do anything. But if there are

:44:25.:44:27.

conditions attached, you know what the conditions are and it's up to

:44:28.:44:30.

you whether to breach them not. That's one of the conditions, mobile

:44:31.:44:34.

phone restrictions. They didn't actually say that at the time of the

:44:35.:44:37.

breach, the wedding was changed thereafter. At the time of the

:44:38.:44:41.

alleged breach, it didn't say I had to provide that. It does now but as

:44:42.:44:47.

I say, it is an obligation, which is unlawful. You are not supposed to be

:44:48.:44:51.

able to do this with an SRO. If you were to provide the police with a

:44:52.:44:54.

woman's name, address and date of birth, what would they do with that

:44:55.:44:59.

information? In theory, there is a disclosure document and what they do

:45:00.:45:05.

is, they will go around and say," this person is subject to something

:45:06.:45:09.

called a sexual risk order, he is considered to be potentially

:45:10.:45:14.

dangerous," and then they ask that want to sign a form and leave and

:45:15.:45:18.

that's it. So can you imagine the horror of that? You've just met

:45:19.:45:23.

someone and you are at the point where you are deciding whether to

:45:24.:45:26.

date and then that happens. Convicted criminals don't get these

:45:27.:45:29.

types of orders. It's obscene. The reason that the police may tell

:45:30.:45:38.

a potential partner of yours that you are dangerous because the judge

:45:39.:45:43.

at the end of your second trial when you were acquitted said although

:45:44.:45:48.

this has has been acquitted, it is my judgment that he is a very

:45:49.:45:51.

dangerous man? Two things, we don't know what he was referring to. It

:45:52.:45:56.

was clear during the trial that he, like a lot of people, just didn't

:45:57.:46:02.

understand S and M at all. Tell us about the nature of the

:46:03.:46:07.

conversations you had with medical professionals, conversations which

:46:08.:46:10.

emerged during your trial? Yeah, I told one of my GPs about a partner

:46:11.:46:20.

that I had and she completely misunderstood. The medical

:46:21.:46:26.

professional? Yes. In what way? She didn't contextualise any of the acts

:46:27.:46:32.

as S and M or in anyway consensual and she missed out large portions of

:46:33.:46:39.

what I'd said. So you had talked about consensual sexual activity and

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talked about safe words? I made that crystal clear. Had you also talked

:46:43.:46:48.

about rape fantasies? Yeah, exactly and I said this was role-play rape.

:46:49.:46:55.

She just wrote down rape. She didn't say anything about role-play and

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initially didn't say anything about safe words. Just explain to our

:46:59.:47:02.

audience what safe words are about? If you don't know what a safe word

:47:03.:47:07.

is, OK, if you're engaging in some kind of S and M activity you use a

:47:08.:47:13.

safe word which is a neutral word to indicate that you want your partner

:47:14.:47:18.

to stop. So green for instance would be a common safe word. And that

:47:19.:47:22.

means stop because obviously if you are enacting a role-play rape, no

:47:23.:47:26.

doesn't mean no. Stop doesn't mean stop. So you need this neutral word

:47:27.:47:35.

or sometimes it is a snap fingers for instance if you're gagged or

:47:36.:47:39.

hooded or something. So safe word isn't always a word. So those

:47:40.:47:43.

conversations emerged during your trial and you believe that may have

:47:44.:47:48.

led the judge in part to describe you as a dangerous man despite the

:47:49.:47:52.

acquittal? I can only assume that. We don't know because the judge was

:47:53.:47:56.

not specific at all about what he meant. We don't know what the judge

:47:57.:48:02.

meant, but we do know because of the original trial that nobody that read

:48:03.:48:06.

those medical notes thought it was S and M, not one person read that

:48:07.:48:11.

document and thought there was anything consensual because there

:48:12.:48:15.

was not a single shred of context in that document. It simply said,

:48:16.:48:21.

"Rape." Are you a dangerous man? No. In no respect, no. I have been

:48:22.:48:27.

accused of precisely one crime in my entire 45 years and I was

:48:28.:48:32.

unanimously acquitted. Last Thursday, your identity was

:48:33.:48:37.

revealed. What impact has that had upon you? Well, this has been

:48:38.:48:44.

devastating for people around me. The first thing that happened was

:48:45.:48:54.

my... My children won't speak to me now. They've deleted me from

:48:55.:49:03.

Facebook. One of my friends has been threatened with being fired just

:49:04.:49:09.

because she knows me. We've had journalists offering money to female

:49:10.:49:14.

friends to say that I've done something to them and the worse the

:49:15.:49:21.

claim they make, the more money they're offered. It's, on a personal

:49:22.:49:29.

level, it is devastating, absolutely devastating. Have you tried to get

:49:30.:49:35.

in touch with your children? I spoke to their mother and we think the

:49:36.:49:41.

best thing to do is just let the shock die down for a while. Why do

:49:42.:49:45.

you think they have deleted you on Facebook? How horrific must this be?

:49:46.:49:49.

Seeing your father and his sexual orientations

:49:50.:50:06.

spread across the internet, awful. Awful. You mentioned the further

:50:07.:50:13.

hearing in August which will decide whether the sexual risk order will

:50:14.:50:16.

be dropped or extended for a period of time. How do you try and get one

:50:17.:50:20.

of these orders overturned? Well, the interim orders are very, very

:50:21.:50:25.

easy to get. So the standard evidence... The standard order that

:50:26.:50:30.

you're on? The standard of evidence is very low, you have a chat with a

:50:31.:50:33.

magistrate and if there is any scary comments at all, they issue the

:50:34.:50:37.

order. But you are supposed to have the full hearing within a few weeks

:50:38.:50:41.

thereafter, that has not happened in my case. It will happen in August.

:50:42.:50:46.

It will happen in August. How do you get that order removed? Effectively,

:50:47.:50:50.

we are going to have the rape trial in miniature again. In a

:50:51.:50:56.

Magistrates' Court again? In a Magistrates' Court, it is the same

:50:57.:51:00.

witnesses, it is a repeat of the rape trial. So how will you try and

:51:01.:51:06.

get it overturned? We're in a position now there is no presumed

:51:07.:51:11.

innocence, I have to prove my innocence. It is that ridiculous.

:51:12.:51:16.

After I have already been acquitted, I still effectively stand accused of

:51:17.:51:21.

exactly the same thing, but in a Magistrates' Court which does not

:51:22.:51:23.

afford you the same opportunity for a defence. It was half day. If that.

:51:24.:51:29.

Whereas trial took five days to unpick. It is a very complicated

:51:30.:51:34.

case. So what could you do, promise to be sell bait for the rest of your

:51:35.:51:41.

life? Well, that presumes some kind of guilt. Why should I make that

:51:42.:51:45.

promise, that presumes some manner of gill. The only time you have a

:51:46.:51:50.

presumption of innocence if there is a jury. The system does not presume

:51:51.:51:54.

innocence, the system presumes guilt. The system, the courts, they

:51:55.:51:59.

all presume guilt, but the new laws are effectively allowing the lower

:52:00.:52:03.

courts and the maj straights court to try very serious crimes by

:52:04.:52:10.

pretending that it is not a retrial. These laws are dangerous, extremely

:52:11.:52:13.

dangerous and they allow the police to ignore a verdict. Thank you very

:52:14.:52:17.

much for talking to us. Thank you. Thank you for your time. You're

:52:18.:52:19.

welcome. We will talk to an ex-lawyer and

:52:20.:52:32.

Police and Crime Commissioner for Northumbria about sexual risk

:52:33.:52:38.

orders. Grace says even if he can't tell people his fannies, women

:52:39.:52:41.

interacting should be made aware. He will suffer more if he ends up in

:52:42.:52:46.

prison because he loses control. This tweet, "If you are innocent

:52:47.:52:53.

then a sexual risk order is an affront to civil liberties." Jeremy

:52:54.:52:59.

says, "I'm gobsmacked by this 24-hour sex notice case. It is craze

:53:00.:53:07.

crisis." Leo says SRO s are just one of the laws our so-called safe pair

:53:08.:53:15.

of hands Prime Minister, oh bonkers, sexual risk orders are one of the

:53:16.:53:19.

bonkers law our Prime Minister has brought in as the Home Secretary."

:53:20.:53:22.

Ann says, "This sounds like the police state. Britain." A couple

:53:23.:53:30.

more as well. Ian, "I could understand the restrictions if he

:53:31.:53:34.

was a convicted sex offender, but he was found not guilty. It doesn't

:53:35.:53:39.

make sense." Ann says, "If he was that dangerous, why wasn't he locked

:53:40.:53:43.

up? The order doesn't seem to make sense." We will discuss that more in

:53:44.:53:45.

the next hour of the programme. The International Olympic

:53:46.:53:49.

Committee is meeting today to decide whether the entire

:53:50.:53:51.

Russian team should be banned from the upcoming

:53:52.:53:53.

Olympic Games next month. We'll talk to athletes who say

:53:54.:53:55.

they should be banned Let's get the latest weather

:53:56.:53:58.

update with Stav Danaos. Are we officially in a heatwave? The

:53:59.:54:13.

official definition of a heatwave is four or five consecutive days of

:54:14.:54:18.

heat and consecutive hot nights. No reprice from the heat which prompts

:54:19.:54:22.

authorities to issue the heat warning. So we have got a brief

:54:23.:54:27.

heatwave at the moment and today we are seeing the peak of the heat as

:54:28.:54:30.

things will be cooling down afterwards. Lots of gorgeous Weather

:54:31.:54:36.

Watcher pictures coming in of that beautiful blue sky. The reason for

:54:37.:54:40.

it, the heat, source has been across Spain and France and this area of

:54:41.:54:44.

high pressure has been pumping it northwards across the UK and it is

:54:45.:54:48.

today like I mentioned we will see a pack of this short-lived heatwave.

:54:49.:54:52.

Temperatures maybe the mid- maybe higher, 35 Celsius across parts of

:54:53.:54:56.

the Midlands. So a very hot afternoon in store, seeing

:54:57.:54:59.

temperatures around the mid-20 Celsius across the South East.

:55:00.:55:03.

Through the afternoon, the high 20s, the low 30s, widely, we could see

:55:04.:55:12.

34, 35 Celsius between London and in towards the Perthshire area. Maybe

:55:13.:55:16.

30 Celsius across Scottish Borders and in the south. Hot and sunny for

:55:17.:55:19.

Northern Ireland and the heat pumping north in towards Northern

:55:20.:55:23.

Scotland. We could see 20 Celsius for Lerwick. A hot and sunny

:55:24.:55:26.

afternoon and humid too. But that means one thing as we head on in

:55:27.:55:30.

towards this evening and overnight, an area of low pressure means we

:55:31.:55:34.

will see thunderstorms developing. Northern and West Wales and Northern

:55:35.:55:39.

Ireland and severe ones, north-west England in towards Scotland by the

:55:40.:55:46.

end of the night. Large hail. Temperatures will be very hot and

:55:47.:55:51.

sticky. A very uncomfortable night to come. Wednesday, a thundery start

:55:52.:55:55.

to the day across Northern Ireland and parts of north-west Wales,

:55:56.:55:59.

north-west eng gln and Southern Scotland, severe thunderstorms

:56:00.:56:02.

possible, frequent lightening, torrential rain. Then we see another

:56:03.:56:12.

cluster of thunderstorms develop. Elsewhere, there will be sunshine

:56:13.:56:15.

around. A cooler fresher feel to Scotland and Northern Ireland. Still

:56:16.:56:18.

warm for England and Wales, but the heatwave, the second day of the

:56:19.:56:22.

heatwave continues in towards East Anglia and the South East of

:56:23.:56:25.

England. By Thursday though, the hot air would have been pushed off into

:56:26.:56:33.

the near Continent and we start to see the Atlantic air pushing in.

:56:34.:56:36.

Temperatures returning to near normal I should say for the time of

:56:37.:56:40.

year. Temperatures in the north and the west the high teens Celsius and

:56:41.:56:44.

the low 20 Celsius across the south and the east and with it will come a

:56:45.:56:48.

few showers, but some sunshine. After this brief, very hot snap, it

:56:49.:56:53.

looks like temperatures returning to near normal by the end of the week.

:56:54.:56:58.

Good morning. It is Tuesday. It is just before 10am. This morning, an

:56:59.:57:06.

exclusive report on the Isle of Wight five. A group of fishermen

:57:07.:57:10.

convicted of smuggling ?53 million worth of cocaine. But could new

:57:11.:57:15.

evidence suggest they're innocent? Well, this chart would have been

:57:16.:57:19.

really report to the jury in reaching a conviction. What it

:57:20.:57:24.

purports to show is the fishing vessel coming across the track of

:57:25.:57:27.

the container vessel as it moved up the English Channel and that the

:57:28.:57:30.

police insisted showed that it was possible for drugs to have been

:57:31.:57:33.

transferred from the container vessel on to the fishing vessel.

:57:34.:57:37.

We will talk to the daughter of one of the men convicted and to the

:57:38.:57:41.

lawyer you saw there representing them. Plus, in the last hour, we

:57:42.:57:45.

brought you an exclusive interview with a 45-year-old father of two

:57:46.:57:49.

from Yorkshire who is banned from having sex unless he gives the

:57:50.:57:53.

police 24 hours notice. Are you a dangerous man? No. In no respect,

:57:54.:58:00.

no. I have been accused of precisely one crime in my entire 45 years and

:58:01.:58:04.

I was unanimously acquitted. Before 11am, we will find out more about

:58:05.:58:09.

the sexual risk orders. So many of you getting in touch about the

:58:10.:58:15.

interview. This comment on whatsapp, "Bravo for the interview with John

:58:16.:58:20.

O'Neill. Hopefully this goes some way to repairing his life and

:58:21.:58:25.

reputation. Sad to see an innocent man treated worse than a criminal."

:58:26.:58:31.

Good morning. Welcome to the programme. It is time for the news

:58:32.:58:36.

and here with a summary is Anita. Good morning. MPs have voted to

:58:37.:58:43.

approve the renewal of the Trident nuclear weapon system. There was a

:58:44.:58:48.

majority of 355 in favour after more than half of Labour voters voted for

:58:49.:58:52.

the deterrent and against their leader Jeremy Corbyn. During the

:58:53.:58:58.

debate one Labour MP called his stance jewel Nile. A hand painted

:58:59.:59:04.

flag of Islamic State has been found at the home of a 17-year-old Afghan

:59:05.:59:08.

refugee who attacked several people with an axe and a knife on a train

:59:09.:59:12.

in Germany. The teengeary was shot dead by police during the attack.

:59:13.:59:17.

Two of those injured are in a critical condition. The teenager who

:59:18.:59:21.

had claimed asylum after travelling to Germany had been living with a

:59:22.:59:26.

foster family. IS is claiming it was behind the attack.

:59:27.:59:31.

Theresa May is holding her first Cabinet meeting as Prime Minister.

:59:32.:59:34.

Mrs May is expected to set out her priorities including leaving the EU

:59:35.:59:37.

during the meeting ahead of visits it Germany and France later in the

:59:38.:59:40.

week. It has been a raucous start to the

:59:41.:59:44.

Republican Convention that will confirm Donald Trump as the party's

:59:45.:59:47.

presidential candidate. There were rowdy scenes when a group of

:59:48.:59:52.

delegates were refused permission to register their opposition to Mr

:59:53.:59:54.

Trumpment later, he inte viewed his wife and through the night a series

:59:55.:00:00.

of his supporters including former Mayor of New York, made speeches on

:00:01.:00:01.

safety and security. It's time to make

:00:02.:00:03.

America safe again. What happened to "There's no

:00:04.:00:05.

black America, there's no white America,

:00:06.:00:20.

there is just America"? A legal charity says there's

:00:21.:00:25.

evidence of a miscarriage of justice in the drug-smuggling convictions

:00:26.:00:35.

of a group of fishermen In an exclusive report,

:00:36.:00:37.

this programme investigates who were sentenced to up to 24 years

:00:38.:00:40.

in jail for a plot involving nearly We've found changed stories

:00:41.:00:45.

and damaged evidence. A man who has to give police 24

:00:46.:00:50.

hours' notice before having sex with a woman for the first time

:00:51.:00:53.

has told this programme 45-year-old John O'Neill has been

:00:54.:00:56.

placed on a sexual risk order after being found

:00:57.:01:00.

not guilty of rape. But North Yorkshire Police applied

:01:01.:01:03.

for the order after the court was told he had a fascination

:01:04.:01:06.

with rape fantasies and was "a very He's given this programme

:01:07.:01:10.

an exclusive interview. I have to give name, address and

:01:11.:01:24.

date of birth. Of? Of any woman that I intend to have any sexual contact

:01:25.:01:28.

with, it's broader than just having sex. What does it include? It's

:01:29.:01:33.

ridiculous. Sexual conversation would be included. Kissing is

:01:34.:01:40.

included. It's so sweeping, it's ridiculous. It's so badly worded, I

:01:41.:01:43.

could breach this order by accident. Los Angeles police are investigating

:01:44.:01:46.

after a Playboy model publicly shared a photograph of another woman

:01:47.:01:49.

naked in a gym changing room. Captioned "if I can't unsee this

:01:50.:01:51.

then you can't either", Dani Mathers posted the image beside one

:01:52.:01:55.

of herself covering her She later apologised,

:01:56.:01:57.

saying she thought the Snapchat post It's illegal in California to share

:01:58.:02:01.

a person's naked image She's also come in for a major

:02:02.:02:07.

social media backlash. That's a summary of the latest BBC

:02:08.:02:13.

News - more at 10.30. Do get in touch with us

:02:14.:02:18.

throughout the morning - If you text, you will be charged

:02:19.:02:20.

at the standard network rate. The BBC's had it confirmed

:02:21.:02:25.

in the last hour that Hull boss Steve Bruce had an interview

:02:26.:02:31.

for the vacant England Sunderland boss Sam Allardyce also

:02:32.:02:34.

held talks last week. More on that throughout

:02:35.:02:43.

the day as we get it. Chris Froome can enjoy today's rest

:02:44.:02:46.

day at the Tour de France, with his lead of nearly two

:02:47.:02:49.

minutes still intact. Peter Sagan won yesterday's stage

:02:50.:02:52.

in the Swiss capital Berne, but two-time winner Froome crossed

:02:53.:02:55.

the line in 13th to maintain his There are now four days of racing

:02:56.:02:58.

before the final stage Froome is the race favourite,

:02:59.:03:03.

but isn't taking Other teams have said

:03:04.:03:07.

they're going to attack next week in the Alps,

:03:08.:03:15.

this week in the Alps, sorry. So to say that the Tour's won,

:03:16.:03:19.

and I don't have any James Anderson, Ben Stokes

:03:20.:03:30.

and Adil Rashid have all been added to the England squad for the second

:03:31.:03:34.

test against Pakistan, Anderson missed the opening

:03:35.:03:36.

test defeat at Lord's because he was injured, but is

:03:37.:03:41.

expected to return at Old Trafford - The Lancashire bowler's recall comes

:03:42.:03:44.

after he was knocked off the top of the test bowling rankings

:03:45.:03:52.

by Yasir Shah - what a game he had in the first match,

:03:53.:03:55.

taking ten wickets. Fresh from his Wimbledon

:03:56.:04:00.

heroics just nine days ago, Andy Murray has decided not

:04:01.:04:02.

to defend his Rogers Cup title Murray has not played since beating

:04:03.:04:04.

Milos Raonic to clinch the title for the second time,

:04:05.:04:12.

and watched as Great Britain won their Davis Cup tie

:04:13.:04:14.

against Serbia in Murray will train in Majorca before

:04:15.:04:16.

defending his Olympic What about Northern Ireland

:04:17.:04:20.

striker Will Grigg? He's earned his place among

:04:21.:04:27.

the best players in Europe. And did it without making a single

:04:28.:04:30.

appearance at Euro 2016! In a vote by journalists,

:04:31.:04:35.

he received as many votes as France's famed

:04:36.:04:37.

midfielder Paul Pogba. Not taking anything away

:04:38.:04:41.

from Grigg's ability, but maybe it had more to do

:04:42.:04:45.

with a song that was sung in his honour by fans

:04:46.:04:48.

throughout the tournament. It's called Will Grigg's On Fire,

:04:49.:04:50.

and even his team mates had a go. # Will Grigg's on fire

:04:51.:05:03.

# Your defences terrified # Will Grigg's on fire

:05:04.:05:09.

# Your defence is terrified # Will Grigg's on fire

:05:10.:05:22.

# Your defence is terrified #. No, thank you. I've heard enough of

:05:23.:05:29.

it. You can see why they are professional footballers and not

:05:30.:05:30.

professional singers! Welcome to the programme. So many of

:05:31.:05:40.

you are getting in touch about the man who has had a sexual risk order

:05:41.:05:46.

imposed on him after he was acquitted of rape. He described the

:05:47.:05:50.

devastating impact this has had on his life, including the fact that

:05:51.:05:53.

his two children now don't speak to him. They live abroad and have

:05:54.:05:58.

deleted from Facebook. This tweet from Mark, "I am trying to work out

:05:59.:06:02.

how such a court order is even police double". A very good

:06:03.:06:06.

question, which we will ask a Police and Crime Commissioner. This tweet

:06:07.:06:10.

from Mary, "Regardless of what this man may do in the future, if he was

:06:11.:06:15.

found not guilty, why put in place this order? Also his identity should

:06:16.:06:19.

be protected". Janet says, "I cannot believe what is happening to this

:06:20.:06:25.

man". Steve says, "This is a joke. A bloke into S has to tell the

:06:26.:06:29.

police when he is going to have sex? It's like a police state". Amy says,

:06:30.:06:34.

"I agree with the order that been imposed. The end of his trial said

:06:35.:06:40.

he was dangerous". And this tweet, "The fact that this man is having to

:06:41.:06:43.

defend himself on national TV is amazing". More on that later. We'll

:06:44.:06:48.

talk to a Police and Crime Commissioner for Northumbria. , also

:06:49.:06:55.

a former lawyer. Next on the programme, state-sponsored doping on

:06:56.:07:00.

an unprecedented scale. -- scale. The IOC is meeting today to discuss

:07:01.:07:04.

whether the entire Russian team should be banned from the games next

:07:05.:07:11.

month. It is after Russia was found to have planned doping across 30

:07:12.:07:15.

sports from late 2011, including the build-up to London 2012 and white

:07:16.:07:19.

through the Saatchi 2014 winter games. Here's how they did it.

:07:20.:07:24.

It was a huge and audacious programme of deception, involving

:07:25.:07:28.

everyone from Russia's sports ministry to the FSB security

:07:29.:07:31.

service, formerly known as the KGB. The goal was to make you samples

:07:32.:07:36.

that tested positive for drugs disappear. From late 2011 to 2015.

:07:37.:07:45.

It was in order to improve Russia's sporting performance to drop the man

:07:46.:07:48.

involved in Wada's investigation called this the disappearing

:07:49.:07:53.

positive methodology but when that wasn't enough to hide doping, such

:07:54.:08:00.

as at the Olympics in Sochi, a more elaborate plan was carried out.

:08:01.:08:03.

Before competing at the games, athletes would give clean you're in

:08:04.:08:08.

samples, when performance enhancing drugs were not a system. These

:08:09.:08:13.

samples would be stored in the freezer by Russian authorities,

:08:14.:08:15.

allowing athletes to resume doping in the run-up to the games. While at

:08:16.:08:20.

the games, the Russian competitors would give you running samples in

:08:21.:08:24.

the usual way, watched by an independent doping control officer.

:08:25.:08:29.

Those samples were then smuggled out of the laboratory at night through

:08:30.:08:35.

mouse holes between rooms, literally a hollow. They were taken away by

:08:36.:08:40.

agents working for the FSB who were disguised as sewer engineers. The

:08:41.:08:46.

samples were removed in a manner which didn't break the seal,

:08:47.:08:50.

allowing the contaminated sample of you're in to be replaced with the

:08:51.:08:56.

previously frozen clean sample which, in one final piece of

:08:57.:09:01.

espionage was passed back to the lab to be tested. The report found 580

:09:02.:09:06.

positive tests were covered up across 30 different sports, but that

:09:07.:09:10.

it is probable Professor McLaren had only skimmed the surface of doping

:09:11.:09:17.

cases. The Russian ministry of sport directed, controlled and oversaw the

:09:18.:09:22.

manipulation of athletes' results, through sample swapping and the act

:09:23.:09:27.

of participation and assistance of the FSB, CSP and both Moscow and

:09:28.:09:37.

Sochi laboratories. I think that athletes going to the Olympics and

:09:38.:09:40.

number of sports, they need to know they are competing on a level

:09:41.:09:43.

playing field so if they were competing against somebody in a

:09:44.:09:46.

Russian Olympic best, there was always going to be that shadow of a

:09:47.:09:49.

doubt, whether they are competing cleanly. So I think the IOC does

:09:50.:09:55.

need to stand very firm on this. There are few nations to have won

:09:56.:10:03.

more medals than Russia. The IOC's decision later today will determine

:10:04.:10:06.

whether it can add to the tally in Rio. So should all Russian athletes

:10:07.:10:11.

automatically be banned from Rio? Regardless of whether they were

:10:12.:10:13.

known to dive bomber? Yesterday we had some of Britain's's greatest

:10:14.:10:17.

Olympic and Paralympic athletes on the programme. This is what they

:10:18.:10:21.

told... It is a huge decision. I don't envy the man that has to make

:10:22.:10:25.

that final call but there has to be a line drawn at some stage. Should

:10:26.:10:30.

the clean ones be banned? Yeah, ban them. They're tainted by the state

:10:31.:10:37.

programme, so it's almost like you have to get rid of everybody because

:10:38.:10:41.

you don't know who is not cheating so everyone is guilty by

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association. You've got to draw the line somewhere and I think because

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the Russians have proved what they are doing now, they that Chile

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proved that the laboratories and things like that, and it's like a

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drug feed. I think if you are going to just tap in and say, you are

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going to be banned but not you, I think it is there now. The evidence

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is there and I just think there should be a total ban in the sense

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of everybody and set that example, set that standard, because you've

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got to do that because how else are you going to try? It's so many

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different sports. We have a couple of boxes who also failed. The bad

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thing for these athletes, what they don't realise, is that these drugs

:11:23.:11:28.

are really bad for you long-term. They're really destroying their

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bodies, taking it, to get this unfair advantage. I don't understand

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the logic at all. Let's speak to John Brewer, a professor of sports

:11:37.:11:40.

science at Saint Mary's University and also a board member of UK

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Anti-Doping. He is talking to us today in a personal capacity. Good

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morning to you. Your reaction to the Canadian lawyer report yesterday? I

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think it is a very sad day for sport and it shows that there are real

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issues within Russia that need to be addressed and there are some very

:11:56.:11:58.

tough and difficult decisions that the authorities will need to take

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with regard to Russia's observation in the other big games. Before we

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talk about that immense decision that they have to take, what struck

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you most about the scale and depth of the cheating going on in Russia?

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It is shock as much as anything. For some time we've had an indication

:12:17.:12:20.

that there was fairly systemic doping going on within Russia that

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clearly has caused major issues and we've been addressing the issues

:12:25.:12:28.

with regard to the athletes. I think what it also shows is that

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regardless of the outcome of this decision, there is a real need now

:12:32.:12:35.

to work with the Russians on the Russian authorities to rehabilitate

:12:36.:12:41.

them and to install a system within Russia that is one that all of us

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involved in sport throughout the world want to see because if we just

:12:45.:12:48.

ostracise them and kick them into touch altogether, things will only

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get worse, so there is now a really big job of work to do, which is to

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work with the Russians, with the athletes, the coaches and the

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authorities to make sure going forward we have a system that is

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clean within Russia and the rest of the world. Is there any

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responsibility on Wada, the world anti-doping agency, on whose watch

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this was going on? In some ways very some encouragement that this has

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been exposed so I think there will be some retrospective looking at

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decisions that were taken. I was the governing body of British skiing and

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snowboarding during the Sochi Olympics, where a lot of the

:13:24.:13:26.

evidence is suggesting that there were adverse practices going on. We

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had athletes who were deprived of medals or deprived of medal winning

:13:32.:13:33.

opportunities because retrospectively we see that they may

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well have been Russians involved and ( as is. So I think the most

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important thing is that we have to protect the right for athletes to

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compete clean. At our university we have around 12 athletes associated

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with the University who will be competing at the Rio Olympics and

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they want to know that when they line up on the start line or the

:13:54.:13:56.

swimming pool that they are competing against others who are

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clean. And people watching around the world want to know that. What

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about clean Russian athletes? Should they be allowed to compete or at

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least to be able to show to the IOC, here are all my you're in samples,

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there is no issue here. There is evidence to suggest they are clean

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but we have seen a precedent where we've seen relay teams where there

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has been four athletes competing in the relay, one athlete has tested

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positive and unfortunately for the other three they've been stripped of

:14:31.:14:32.

their medals and it may well be that there is a tough price to pay for

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those within the Russian system, athletes who we know our band, who

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are unable to compete in the London external of wrongdoing of others. If

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the IOC do come to that decision and may not be today, it may be after

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they've allowed any potentially clean athletes to put evidence

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forward, would that be the right decision, if they ban all Russian

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athletes from competing at Rio? I would emphasise again that I is

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speaking personally. My view is that the evidence suggests that because I

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know as a scientist you've taken drugs, you still have a long-term

:15:09.:15:11.

benefit from those drugs, so even if you've stopped now and you go out

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and compete in a few weeks, I would not be surprised if the whole of the

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Russian squad were banned and I suspect that for the long-term

:15:19.:15:21.

integrity of sport, that may well be the correct decision to take. You

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will note that President Putin and the Kremlin are saying that this is

:15:28.:15:33.

about politics, this is political interference, and they've issued a

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statement this morning, "We stand against doping".

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It is easy to say the words, the evidence maybe something different

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and I will come back to the point I made earlier, we have to protect the

:15:45.:15:47.

right of our athletes to compete in a clean environment and I have seen

:15:48.:15:50.

the dedication and hard work that so many of our athletes across a range

:15:51.:15:54.

of sports put into compete at the highest level for their country at

:15:55.:15:58.

an Olympic Games. And they have to have the assurance that they are in

:15:59.:16:01.

an environment that is as clean as possible. I think it would be naive

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to say that it will be totally clean, but when we see evidence that

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would suggest they are in an environment where athletes they are

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up against may have previously doped and reaped the benefits of that or

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perhaps have been doping up until recently then I think we have to

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take tough and indeed difficult decisions. This tweet, "Russian

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doping is a disgrace and zero tolerance should be the attitude."

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Davis says, "Continued contempt from the Russians, not just in sport, but

:16:32.:16:35.

in its general attitude towards rules. We need it make an example of

:16:36.:16:42.

them." Bruce says, "Russia should be permanently removed from the IOC, if

:16:43.:16:46.

Russian athletes aren't good enough, they should be under a different

:16:47.:16:53.

flag." Another one from Sandra, "We love bashing the Russians, it is not

:16:54.:17:01.

as if we don't have drug cheats in our own back yard." We need to make

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sure that we work with them to put the right practises and the right

:17:07.:17:11.

regime in place. Do you think if it was a life ban, that would be the

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ultimate deterrent? I think you are talking about a life ban for

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individual athletes of the tweet there was suggesting that the

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Russians should be banned for a long period of time. I think we have

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moved a long way to the extension of the ban for an athlete who tests

:17:26.:17:29.

positive to make it four years and lifetime for a second offence,

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that's a positive step. Most importantly, as a sports scientist,

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I am encouraged about the advances in science that enable us to test

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samples, eight, tense years afterwards. It is amazing, but even

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with the advances in science, the cheats are always a step ahead?

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That's why we need too to keep investing in the science. If we

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throw our hands up and say we will never win, things are only going to

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get worse. It is important we fund the anti doping agencies and fund

:18:00.:18:03.

the scientific research. Despite their failures? Or the fact that we

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are picking up cheats I would suggest is in a sense a positive

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news and we are, I think, in a situation now where anybody who win

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as medal, who has in the past cheated and taken a banned substance

:18:16.:18:21.

cannot sleep lightly and can always look over their shoulder and suspect

:18:22.:18:26.

they might get a test that strips that medal from them five or ten

:18:27.:18:29.

years down the line. I am encouraged about the world we are moving into.

:18:30.:18:37.

Thank you. This 45-year-old father of two is

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banned from having sex unless he gives the police 24 hours notice.

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Those are the terms of a sexual risk order imposed on him.

:18:49.:18:53.

MPs have voted by a margin of four to one to renew the Trident

:18:54.:18:56.

60% of Labour MPs voted in favour of Trident

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We'll look at what this means for Labour in just a moment,

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Trident is the name of the UK's nuclear weapons system. The system

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is made up of four sur Marines, 58 Trident nuclear missiles and a

:19:20.:19:23.

stockpile of over 200 nuclear warheads. Trident miss iletion

:19:24.:19:26.

carried on the submarines are 18 times more powerful than the bomb

:19:27.:19:34.

than drop on Hiroshima. The submarines were built between 1986

:19:35.:19:40.

and 1999. They are old and need replacing. Doing that will cost ?31

:19:41.:19:46.

billion over 35 years. That's about 0.2% of total Government spending.

:19:47.:19:53.

Protesters argue keeping nuclear weapons costs too much money.

:19:54.:19:58.

Keeping nuclear warheads could lead to accidents and they say it makes

:19:59.:20:04.

the UK more unsafe. Those in favour of Trident think it

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makes us safer because it is a deterrent.

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Nine countries have nuclear weapons including Russia, Pakistan, and

:20:15.:20:15.

North Korea. We can talk now to Ryan Ramsey

:20:16.:20:26.

a former Submarine Commander in the Navy's attack fleet

:20:27.:20:29.

who trained others to captain the Trident submarines

:20:30.:20:33.

and Rear Admiral John Gower, a former assistant chief of defence

:20:34.:20:35.

staff for nuclear deployment. Welcome both of you. Ryan Ramsay,

:20:36.:20:46.

you completed underwater training missions on Trident submarines.

:20:47.:20:50.

Describe for our audience the submarine? It is a huge vessel. It

:20:51.:20:56.

is impressive technology wise. And it is impressive piece of equipment

:20:57.:21:02.

that's taken out to sea providing the deterrents that the UK needs.

:21:03.:21:06.

More importantly as the crews that operate it, so keeping that going

:21:07.:21:13.

24/7, 365 requires highly skilled operators, people who can make

:21:14.:21:16.

decisions and people who can lead and people who can follow and they

:21:17.:21:19.

do that effectively. Tell us about the responsibility you feel on

:21:20.:21:23.

taking a nuclear powered submarine to sea? It is a huge responsibility

:21:24.:21:27.

of taking any warship or submarine to sea. It is about achieving

:21:28.:21:33.

political effect. It is about achieving strategic effect, but

:21:34.:21:35.

importantly, it is about bringing your crews home safely as well. So

:21:36.:21:39.

taking your crews off in the nobbling that you might go to war --

:21:40.:21:44.

knowledge that you might go to war is a huge responsibility, but it is

:21:45.:21:47.

a prif leubleg and one I enjoyed. Much of the time though, life must

:21:48.:21:53.

ablittle mundane on a submarine? I describe it as 60% of boredom,

:21:54.:21:59.

mundane, day-to-day stuff and then 40% of adrenalin rush and actually

:22:00.:22:04.

managing it your team to be able to do that on a ballistic missile

:22:05.:22:09.

submarine for up to 90 to 100 days is a huge challenge and for some of

:22:10.:22:15.

the attack submarines that go on deployments of 300 days that's a

:22:16.:22:19.

huge challenge for the leadership team. I think you spent nearly a yor

:22:20.:22:23.

at one stage under the ocean. How do you deal with that? Days roll into

:22:24.:22:29.

days, but the tasking that attack submarines have varies a lot so

:22:30.:22:33.

there is always a new challenge. By focussing on the near term with a

:22:34.:22:37.

longer term focus on making sure you bring the submarine back after 386

:22:38.:22:45.

days away that keeps you focussed. We think nine countries have nuclear

:22:46.:22:50.

weapons. As a deterrent, does Trident work? Yes, I mean the

:22:51.:23:02.

deterrent worked fielded by ourselves, France and United States,

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we haven't had a nuclear weapon used in anger since 9th August 1945. And

:23:09.:23:14.

so to say that the deterrent doesn't work isn't correct, it works every

:23:15.:23:19.

day. Sorry, yes? I have messages from viewers saying what use is

:23:20.:23:23.

Trident when we have lorries being used as weapons these days? Well,

:23:24.:23:31.

Trident has never and is never meant to deter terrorism or other threats

:23:32.:23:37.

that are not nuclear. Trident is there to assure and guarantee the

:23:38.:23:40.

security of the United Kingdom and her allies through the Nato alliance

:23:41.:23:44.

against the most extreme of threats. Either direct attack with nuclear

:23:45.:23:48.

weapons or the use of nuclear weapons to coerce and certainly the

:23:49.:23:57.

behaviour of Russia over Ukraine and her blatant nuclear saibor rattling

:23:58.:24:00.

over the last two years has shown that this threat is not some relic

:24:01.:24:07.

of a bygone era. This is here today, but there is no case made for

:24:08.:24:12.

Trident to prevent against terrorism and therefore, to say it doesn't

:24:13.:24:18.

prevent against terrorism to get rid of it is fa she shoulds. Trident did

:24:19.:24:25.

not stop Russia going into Ukraine? No, but that was not a nuclear

:24:26.:24:32.

threat. It is not panacea against all things, but it is a panacea

:24:33.:24:38.

against Russia using nuclear weapons. Ryan Ramsay you were

:24:39.:24:43.

captain of a number of attacked submarines. What is the difference

:24:44.:24:46.

between those and the Trident programme? I was the captain of one

:24:47.:24:50.

nuclear attack sub marred rern. The difference is the size. The

:24:51.:24:55.

ballistic missile submarine is five times larger than the attack

:24:56.:24:58.

submarine. The tasking is different as well. So the attack submarine is

:24:59.:25:03.

about intelligence gathering, almost a first line of defence for the

:25:04.:25:10.

United Kingdom and using tomorrow owe hawk missiles when required.

:25:11.:25:22.

Adding to the first line by deterrence itself. Ryan Ramsay and

:25:23.:25:28.

you heard from Rather Admiral John Gower.

:25:29.:25:32.

A hand-painted flag of so-called Islamic State has been found

:25:33.:25:35.

in the room of a teenage Afghan asylum seeker who attacked

:25:36.:25:37.

passengers on a train in Germany with an axe.

:25:38.:25:39.

Our correspondent Damien McGuinness is in Berlin.

:25:40.:25:43.

Tell us more about what happened last night. Well, it was quite a

:25:44.:25:51.

horrific attack for those on the train Victoria. Apparently what

:25:52.:25:55.

happened is the young man was-weeks-olding an axe and a knife

:25:56.:26:02.

-- wielding an axe and a knife and started attacking passengers

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viciously particularly a Chinese family who were travelling on the

:26:05.:26:08.

train. He attacked people in the stomach and on the head with the axe

:26:09.:26:11.

and then one of the passengers pull the emergency chord, the train

:26:12.:26:17.

ground to a halt and the attacker fled the scene as it happens, there

:26:18.:26:23.

was a special Commando armed unit of German police nearby. They chased

:26:24.:26:27.

after the perpetrator. They tracked him down. In the conflict that

:26:28.:26:35.

ensued the attacker tried to attack the police officers who then shot

:26:36.:26:39.

him dead. So the situation right now is that five people in total were

:26:40.:26:44.

injured. Four of them seriously and two of them are still in a critical

:26:45.:26:48.

condition. So it is a very serious attack, indeed, but the real

:26:49.:26:52.

question is what's the motivation behind the attack because this young

:26:53.:26:57.

man was a 17-year-old Afghan who had come here as an asylum seeker two

:26:58.:27:02.

years ago to Germany, what his motivation was is going to have a

:27:03.:27:05.

big impact as to what that means for wider society as a whole here in

:27:06.:27:08.

Germany. Now that the flag has been found, what are people saying about

:27:09.:27:14.

that? Well, of course, now police are investigating whether this is in

:27:15.:27:18.

fact an Islamist extremist attack and so-called Islamic State has

:27:19.:27:21.

claimed responsibility for the attack. They say that this young man

:27:22.:27:27.

was in fact one of their followers. Police are treating all of this with

:27:28.:27:33.

some caution including claims by one eyewitness that the man shouted out,

:27:34.:27:39.

"Allah is great." In Arabic as he carried out the attack. Police can't

:27:40.:27:43.

confirm that's true, but they are treating it now as a potential

:27:44.:27:51.

Islamist extremist attack and the reason why problematic, it will

:27:52.:27:56.

increase fears about potential lone wolf attacks and particularly in

:27:57.:27:59.

neighbouring France we have had a couple of extreme terror attacks

:28:00.:28:03.

over the past year. Germany is already nervous that something

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similar could happen. It is problem attic because of the migrant crisis.

:28:07.:28:12.

In 2015 Germany took in more than one million migrants and refugees

:28:13.:28:17.

that was very controversial. Many people here supported Angela

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Merkel's stance on refugees, but many people objected to it. It

:28:21.:28:23.

really divided the country. Since the beginning of the year, numbers

:28:24.:28:26.

have gone down. So that has meant that actually that debate seems to

:28:27.:28:31.

have calmed somewhat, but the attack last night has really sparked off

:28:32.:28:36.

that debate and shown that the division in society over Angela

:28:37.:28:39.

Merkel's stance on refugees is still very much there.

:28:40.:28:43.

Thank you very much, Damien McGuinness in Berlin.

:28:44.:28:46.

A group of fishermen and colleagues

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convicted of smuggling ?53 million worth of cocaine.

:28:50.:28:51.

Could new evidence suggest they're innocent?

:28:52.:28:53.

We'll talk to the daughter of one of the men convicted

:28:54.:28:55.

This father of two is banned from having sex unless he gives the

:28:56.:29:08.

police 24 hours notice because of a sexual risk order that has been

:29:09.:29:12.

imposed upon him. We'll talk about the orders in much more detail and

:29:13.:29:16.

whether they have a role to play in protecting people. This e-mail from

:29:17.:29:20.

Michael, "What has become of our justice system when a guy acquitted

:29:21.:29:24.

of rape is open to further punishment for a crime at the didn't

:29:25.:29:29.

commit and is now on TV having his entire personal private sexual life

:29:30.:29:33.

opened up. The rule is ridiculous. The man is innocent. He should be

:29:34.:29:38.

able to live his life freely without this attention." This tweet, "This

:29:39.:29:43.

is fascinating. I had no idea things like this could happen in this

:29:44.:29:47.

country." Susan said, "I disagreed with this order at first, but he

:29:48.:29:52.

openly admits rape fantasies so prevention is sensible." Jan says,

:29:53.:29:59.

"Just because he is into S and M, it doesn't make him a rapist. He is

:30:00.:30:03.

guilty of enjoying sexual pleasure like 99% of all human beings."

:30:04.:30:07.

Graham says, "The judge surely wouldn't describe him as a dangerous

:30:08.:30:11.

man if it were not a fair assessment of his character based on the

:30:12.:30:17.

evidence put before the court." This text says, "I'm disgusted by the way

:30:18.:30:20.

this man has been treated. We truly are living in a police state. Have

:30:21.:30:25.

the police got nothing better to do ie catching criminals?"

:30:26.:30:28.

Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:30:29.:30:32.

A hand-painted flag of the terror group so-called

:30:33.:30:36.

at the home of a 17-year-old Afghan refugee who attacked several

:30:37.:30:40.

people with an axe and a knife on a train in Germany.

:30:41.:30:43.

The teenager was shot dead by police during the attack near the southern

:30:44.:30:46.

Two of those injured are in a critical condition.

:30:47.:30:49.

The teenager, who had claimed asylum after travelling to Germany

:30:50.:30:52.

as an unaccompanied minor, had been living with a foster family.

:30:53.:30:54.

IS is now claiming it was behind the attack.

:30:55.:31:02.

MPs have voted overwhelmingly to approve a renewal of the Trident

:31:03.:31:05.

There was a majority of 355 in favour, after more

:31:06.:31:08.

than half of Labour MPs voted for the deterrent and against their

:31:09.:31:11.

During the debate, one Labour MP called his stance "juvenile

:31:12.:31:15.

Theresa May is holding her first cabinet meeting

:31:16.:31:21.

Mrs May is expected to set out her priorities,

:31:22.:31:25.

including leaving the EU, during the meeting, ahead

:31:26.:31:28.

of visits to Germany and France later in the week.

:31:29.:31:31.

It's been a raucous start to the Republican convention that

:31:32.:31:34.

will confirm Donald Trump as the party's

:31:35.:31:35.

There were claims that part of a keynote speech by Donald Trump's

:31:36.:31:47.

wife Melania was strikingly similar to Michelle Obama was both speech

:31:48.:31:51.

eight years ago. Mrs Trump, who was born in Slovenia, said she has as

:31:52.:31:55.

little help as possible to write the speech, which stressed family

:31:56.:31:57.

values. A legal charity says there's

:31:58.:32:19.

evidence of a miscarriage of justice in the drug-smuggling convictions

:32:20.:32:21.

of a group of fishermen In an exclusive report our programme

:32:22.:32:24.

investigates the case of the men, who were sentenced to up to 24 years

:32:25.:32:28.

in jail for a plot involving nearly We've found changed stories -

:32:29.:32:31.

and damaged evidence. The Russian Olympic committee has

:32:32.:32:35.

declared this morning that it stands against doping -

:32:36.:32:37.

but that the fate of honest athletes shouldn't depend

:32:38.:32:40.

on unproven accusations. It comes as the International

:32:41.:32:41.

Olympic Committee prepares to decide whether or not to ban ALL Russian

:32:42.:32:44.

athletes from the games in Rio. Russia is accused of operating

:32:45.:32:47.

a state-sponsored doping programme for four years across the "vast

:32:48.:32:49.

majority" of summer The country's track-and-field

:32:50.:32:51.

team is already banned Join me for BBC Newsroom

:32:52.:32:54.

Live at 11 o'clock. Jessica has the morning's

:32:55.:32:59.

sport headlines now. The BBC's had it confirmed

:33:00.:33:00.

this morning that Hull boss Steve Bruce had an interview

:33:01.:33:03.

for the vacant England Sunderland boss Sam Allardyce also

:33:04.:33:05.

held talks last week. More on that as we have a. Hi have

:33:06.:33:09.

it. Peter Sagan won yesterday's

:33:10.:33:16.

Tour de France stage But two-time winner Chris Froome

:33:17.:33:18.

crossed the line in 13th to maintain his grip on the leader's

:33:19.:33:21.

yellow jersey, and has a lead James Anderson, Ben Stokes

:33:22.:33:24.

and Adil Rashid have all been added to the England squad for the second

:33:25.:33:28.

test against Pakistan, Anderson missed the opening

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test defeat at Lord's because he was injured, but is

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expected to return at Old Trafford - Andy Murray has decided not

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to defend his Rogers Cup title The world number two hasn't played

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since beating Milos Raonic to win the Wimbledon title

:33:43.:33:46.

for the second time. Murray will train in Majorca before

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defending his Olympic Updates on all those stories

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throughout the morning on the BBC News Channel.

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Five years ago, a group of family men from the Isle of Wight

:34:01.:34:03.

were given a combined prison sentence of 104 years

:34:04.:34:06.

for masterminding a ?53 million cocaine smuggling operation.

:34:07.:34:09.

But this programme has obtained new evidence which suggests

:34:10.:34:13.

Our reporter Jim Reed has spent six months following the story.

:34:14.:34:18.

We bought you his full report an hour ago - here's

:34:19.:34:20.

A bad recovered and brought the police station. It was one of the

:34:21.:34:36.

largest drug plots of the decade. In 2010, a quarter of a tonne of

:34:37.:34:41.

cocaine was found in the sea off the Isle of white. The police said it

:34:42.:34:44.

had been left there, wrapped around a boy, by a fishing boat which had

:34:45.:34:51.

picked it up from a container ship in the English Channel. The only

:34:52.:34:54.

thing of interest we could see were a couple of canisters floating in

:34:55.:34:58.

the water. At the bags were spotted by a member of the public and these

:34:59.:35:02.

five men were arrested and convicted. Hello, darling. Most were

:35:03.:35:10.

local fishermen with families and most serious criminal records. Sue's

:35:11.:35:15.

husband Jonathan was said to be the organiser of the plot. He is now

:35:16.:35:20.

serving 24 years in a high security prison in the Midlands. When you

:35:21.:35:24.

find out what he was being accused of and charged with, what was your

:35:25.:35:29.

reaction? It was ridiculous. What? It's just a stupid mistake and he'll

:35:30.:35:37.

be home. But he never came home? Hasn't been home since the 18th of

:35:38.:35:43.

January 2011. A hi-tech search of the men's boat after they were

:35:44.:35:47.

arrested could find no trace of the cocaine. All five still maintain

:35:48.:35:50.

they are innocent, five years after their trial. I wanted to tell you

:35:51.:35:56.

where I've got to... They are now being represented by the first

:35:57.:36:00.

charity of its kind in Britain, specialising in miscarriage of

:36:01.:36:03.

Justice investigations. This chart would have been really important to

:36:04.:36:06.

the jury in reaching a conviction because what liberal ports to show

:36:07.:36:11.

is the kissing vessel -- fishing vessel coming across the track. The

:36:12.:36:17.

police insisted that showed it was possible for drugs to have been

:36:18.:36:20.

transferred from the container vessel onto the fishing vessel. At

:36:21.:36:26.

the charity has now commissioned expert review of this data. Emily

:36:27.:36:30.

Bolton claims it shows the prosecution got it wrong, leaving

:36:31.:36:34.

out key plot points and using faulty information. If true, it would mean

:36:35.:36:37.

the pass of the boats were never closer than 100 metres from each

:36:38.:36:41.

other. A container ship was actually heading further south. The fishing

:36:42.:36:47.

vessel never intercepted with the trap of the container ship and there

:36:48.:36:50.

for good not have collected the drugs from the sea in the way that

:36:51.:36:53.

the police insisted they must've done. The charity claims its work

:36:54.:36:58.

also proves the drugs could not have been dropped off by the fishing boat

:36:59.:37:02.

in the bay, as the water there is too shallow and the tide would have

:37:03.:37:04.

taken the drugs in the opposite direction. That new evidence has

:37:05.:37:11.

formed part of a submission to the criminal cases review commission,

:37:12.:37:14.

which must now decide if the men will get a new appeal. The National

:37:15.:37:18.

Crime Agency, which led the drugs operation in the channel, said it

:37:19.:37:21.

can't comment while less investigation is ongoing.

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Let's speak now to Maisy Green, whose father Jamie Green

:37:25.:37:27.

was convicted of conspiracy to import cocaine and sentenced

:37:28.:37:29.

And also to Emily Bolton, who you saw in the film and who has taken

:37:30.:37:37.

on the case and runs the Centre for Criminal Appeals.

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Good morning, both of you. Thank you for coming on the programme. Emily

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Bolton, why are you convinced that the prosecution got the plot points

:37:50.:37:52.

of both the fishing boat and the container ship ran? They got the

:37:53.:37:56.

plot points of the container ship wrong by misinterpreting a piece of

:37:57.:38:01.

data and by missing out... It's join the dots exercise. So really simple?

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Very basic. They got that wrong and they didn't disclose the information

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that would have enabled the defence at trial to work out that it was

:38:12.:38:16.

wrong. And the GPS data that you have, that you say shows the correct

:38:17.:38:21.

route of the fishing boat in particular, why is that 100%

:38:22.:38:25.

accurate? The reason that's accurate is that it's a very sophisticated

:38:26.:38:30.

device used for fishermen to be able to do their work, go about their

:38:31.:38:33.

business in the sea, know where they are and come back to their pots and

:38:34.:38:37.

retrieve them, so it's a very accurately circuit,

:38:38.:38:40.

state-of-the-art, and exactly what's needed for lobster fishing, which is

:38:41.:38:45.

how Jamie Green has made living. The two capture police officers that saw

:38:46.:38:49.

someone on a boat throwing stuff off, maybe six or seven items, we

:38:50.:38:54.

now know there were 11 bags of cocaine at that freshwater Bay area,

:38:55.:38:59.

does that really matter whether they saw six or seven or whether it was

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12? I think more what matters there is the detail that they missed.

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They're not describing the drugs as they were found and they changed

:39:08.:39:10.

their descriptions to make them match what was actually found. But

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it doesn't mean, does it, that the five men could have been the ones

:39:17.:39:19.

throwing stuff off the side of the boat which could have been cocaine?

:39:20.:39:23.

It does because if you combine that evidence with the evidence from the

:39:24.:39:27.

mid-channel, we now know that the two boats didn't intersect and they

:39:28.:39:30.

basically could not have picked up the bags at the time the police

:39:31.:39:33.

theorised they were dropped and this is not evidence the jury were able

:39:34.:39:36.

to hear at trial and it's not evidence that has been heard by the

:39:37.:39:39.

Court of Appeal and we want to chance to get this evidence in front

:39:40.:39:44.

of a court as a matter of urgency. Are there any other possible

:39:45.:39:49.

explanations how, if the boats didn't cross paths, that cocaine

:39:50.:39:52.

could have ended up on the five men's fishing boat? We checked the

:39:53.:39:58.

issue of drift and in Jim's PCC bit of information about that. We check

:39:59.:40:01.

whether the banks could have drifted. We have modelling software

:40:02.:40:05.

that enables you to look into these things and that also doesn't work.

:40:06.:40:09.

The bags would have drifted away from the boat, not towards it. There

:40:10.:40:14.

is no way that your GPS digital tracking could have missed about

:40:15.:40:17.

going towards the bags of cocaine to pick them up? The GPS digital track

:40:18.:40:21.

and we have a sour boat, it shows where our boat was and it was not in

:40:22.:40:28.

the place where it would need to be. Where is this case up to in terms of

:40:29.:40:32.

you wanting a Court of Appeal hearing? This case is an emergency.

:40:33.:40:38.

These five men have been imprisoned since 2010 and it is in front of the

:40:39.:40:41.

Kiro cases review commission, the body set up to investigate suspected

:40:42.:40:48.

miscarriages of justice. -- criminal cases review commission. But that

:40:49.:40:52.

body is so underfunded that the cases been an icky of 18 months. We

:40:53.:40:55.

see our charity as being the ambulance, we go out and pick up the

:40:56.:40:59.

casualties of justice and we watch them to hospital but when they get

:41:00.:41:03.

to the Court of Appeal, or the commission can actually do something

:41:04.:41:06.

about their condition, they are told to wait in a queue. It is like these

:41:07.:41:10.

cases, these casualties of justice, are bleeding out on a stretcher in a

:41:11.:41:13.

queue waiting for the urgent treatment they need and that can't

:41:14.:41:18.

persist and if Theresa May is serious about investigating issues

:41:19.:41:20.

with police accountability and with our criminal justice system, we need

:41:21.:41:24.

to see more funding for the institutions that run our appeals

:41:25.:41:27.

process, the commission and the Court of Appeal. Sydney on Facebook,

:41:28.:41:32.

and this is representative of a number of comments, says, the

:41:33.:41:38.

evidence seems... It's just such a coincidence, you know? How are you

:41:39.:41:43.

so clear that these men are innocent? Once you look at the

:41:44.:41:46.

evidence in detail, and the fresh evidence that no court has looked at

:41:47.:41:51.

before that no jury has ever heard, I think Sydney would have his

:41:52.:41:54.

questions answered. It is almost too much detail to go into here but the

:41:55.:41:58.

fresh evidence makes absolutely clear that they could not have

:41:59.:42:02.

picked up those drugs at sea. Maisie, your father was convicted of

:42:03.:42:06.

conspiracy to import drugs and sentenced to 24 years in jail. It

:42:07.:42:11.

was your dad who owned and skippered the boat. Why do you think is

:42:12.:42:19.

innocent? My dad has been a fisherman all his life, it's what

:42:20.:42:22.

he's done, it's what he's always wanted to do, he's never done

:42:23.:42:30.

anything differently. So that's all he's done and why would he do

:42:31.:42:33.

something like this? Why would it happen now? Why, 47 years down the

:42:34.:42:41.

line, why all of a sudden? It's just crazy. It's ridiculous. Because it's

:42:42.:42:48.

a chance to earn a lot of money, potentially, if you don't get

:42:49.:42:53.

caught. My dad's a simple fisherman from the island. We are a close

:42:54.:43:02.

family. We've worked hard together. My grandparents have a seafood

:43:03.:43:06.

restaurant. That is our family life and it is just ridiculous to assume

:43:07.:43:09.

that my dad would do something like this. He's got three kids, me being

:43:10.:43:14.

one of them. His wife was terminally ill. Why would he do something like

:43:15.:43:21.

this, and cause the devastation and impact that it's caused our family?

:43:22.:43:25.

You went to visit him last Saturday in jail. Between the three of you,

:43:26.:43:31.

you go once a week, I think. What would you say your father's state of

:43:32.:43:36.

mind is? He's very frustrated. Obviously, the last year has been a

:43:37.:43:40.

lot worse than previous years with the passing of my mother at the end

:43:41.:43:47.

of last year. He's had, as you can imagine, for anyone to be put in

:43:48.:43:51.

prison, let alone to be put there when he hasn't done anything wrong,

:43:52.:43:58.

for the ongoing suffering of my mum, obviously now she's passed away...

:43:59.:44:01.

It's bad enough for us so I can't imagine what it's like for him in

:44:02.:44:08.

there. Me and my sister have seen a downward spiral in him in the last

:44:09.:44:20.

six months, since my mum's died. We think he is in a more mindful sense

:44:21.:44:24.

with the passing and slowly getting over that with my mum, obviously

:44:25.:44:32.

it's difficult. But I'm not in that position. It is difficult enough for

:44:33.:44:36.

us so I can't imagine what it's like for him. And just countable through

:44:37.:44:40.

moment, I'm coming back to a second. I just want to bring our audience

:44:41.:44:44.

this news from Lincolnshire Police. They say that three people have been

:44:45.:44:49.

killed in a shooting in Spalding. The police statement is as

:44:50.:44:51.

follows... We can confirm that there has been a firearms incident on a

:44:52.:44:57.

road in Spalding in Lincolnshire, in the vicinity of the Castle swimming

:44:58.:45:02.

pool, in which three people have been fatally wounded, including the

:45:03.:45:06.

suspected offender. There is an ongoing police investigation and

:45:07.:45:08.

operation. At this stage we are not looking for anyone else in

:45:09.:45:12.

connection with this. There is no indication that this is a terrorist

:45:13.:45:15.

related incident. Mailshots have been fired by the police. We urge

:45:16.:45:19.

members of the public to stay away from the area at the moment. Any

:45:20.:45:23.

witnesses to the incident you haven't already spoken to officers

:45:24.:45:30.

at the scene are asked to call 101, quoting number 92 of the 19th of

:45:31.:45:33.

July. So Lincolnshire Police say that three people have been killed

:45:34.:45:39.

in a shooting in Spalding, including the suspected offender. Clearly

:45:40.:45:42.

there is an ongoing police operation in the castle swimming pool area.

:45:43.:45:49.

Police say, at this stage, there is no indication to suggest that this

:45:50.:45:52.

is a terrorist related incident. More on this in the next few minutes

:45:53.:45:54.

of the programme. Let's continue our conversation with

:45:55.:46:06.

Maisie Green whose father is in jail. Was your father able to see

:46:07.:46:13.

your mum before she died? He was. He attended the hospice which was on

:46:14.:46:17.

the Isle of Wight a few weeks before my mum passed away. He was supposed

:46:18.:46:22.

to attend for the day. There was some sort of problem with the prison

:46:23.:46:28.

that couldn't book the ferry in time and usual problems with the system

:46:29.:46:37.

so he only got a few hours which was disappointing. We were hoping he

:46:38.:46:42.

would get the day there. He three hours and he had to be taken away.

:46:43.:46:49.

How hopeful are you that this case will be overturned at some point in

:46:50.:46:54.

the future? I am very hopeful and so are the rest of the family with the

:46:55.:47:00.

hard work from Emily and the work that my auntie put into the case. As

:47:01.:47:05.

every month passes it is more hopeful, we are all more hopeful and

:47:06.:47:12.

kind of working towards getting a result from the appeal board and

:47:13.:47:18.

hopefully going from there. I mean, we, as a family, without my mum,

:47:19.:47:22.

could really do with him being out so... As a lawyer, you have seen a

:47:23.:47:26.

lot of cases. Is this a miscarriage of justice? I think this is clearly

:47:27.:47:31.

a miscarriage of justice and what made it doubly so is the delay in

:47:32.:47:37.

getting in rectified. This young woman's father had to give the ulogy

:47:38.:47:51.

at his wife's funeral shackled by a prison guard. The evidence is

:47:52.:47:56.

already there that proves these men are the victim of a miscarriage of

:47:57.:48:00.

justice. The system failed them and is holding them in a queue and

:48:01.:48:06.

keeping the lives of the family members and robbed Jamie of the

:48:07.:48:12.

chance to be with her in her last days.

:48:13.:48:13.

Thank you. Hampshire Police told us it wouldn't

:48:14.:48:16.

be appropriate to comment because the investigation

:48:17.:48:19.

was led by the Serious Organised They did, however, confirm

:48:20.:48:21.

that they have no ongoing complaints The NCA, or National Crime Agency,

:48:22.:48:25.

also told us it wasn't appropriate to comment while the case

:48:26.:48:31.

is before the Criminal If you want to watch

:48:32.:48:33.

the full film or share it, you can find it on our programme

:48:34.:48:40.

page: bbc.co.uk/victoria Hundreds of people have complained

:48:41.:48:45.

to the press regulator about an article by Sun columnist

:48:46.:48:48.

Kelvin Mackenzie who suggested a Channel 4 presenter should not

:48:49.:48:50.

have been allowed to present a report of last week's

:48:51.:48:55.

mass killings in Nice because she is a Muslim

:48:56.:48:58.

who wears the hijab. The reporter is Fatima Manji who has

:48:59.:49:02.

worked at Channel 4 for four years. Good afternoon. At least 84 people

:49:03.:49:16.

have died and dozens are hurt in France after a truck drove through

:49:17.:49:20.

crowds along Nice's packed waterfront. Ten children are among

:49:21.:49:25.

the dead after the driver hit people celebrating Bastille Day along the

:49:26.:49:30.

famous promenade. 15 more children are being treated this hospital.

:49:31.:49:33.

Some with life threatening injuries. Witnesses say the driver swerved

:49:34.:49:38.

from side to side for as much as one mile to kill as many people as

:49:39.:49:39.

possible. Here's an extract from

:49:40.:49:42.

Kelvin Mackenzie's column, Was it appropriate for her to be

:49:43.:49:44.

on camera when there had been yet another shocking

:49:45.:49:49.

slaughter by a Muslim? Was it done to stick one in the eye

:49:50.:49:52.

of the ordinary viewer who looks at the hijab as a sign

:49:53.:49:55.

of the slavery of Muslim women by a male-dominated

:49:56.:49:58.

and clearly violent religion?" We wanted to speak to Kelvin

:49:59.:50:07.

MacKenzie this morning, but he has not returned any of our calls. We

:50:08.:50:11.

wanted to talk to the Sun management, but they said they

:50:12.:50:14.

weren't commenting. Channel 4 said Mr MacKenzie's remarks are offensive

:50:15.:50:16.

and completely unacceptable. You might expect controversy

:50:17.:50:21.

from Donald Trump at the Republican national convention but probably not

:50:22.:50:25.

from his wife Melania. Parts of the her keynote

:50:26.:50:29.

speech were found to bear a striking similarity

:50:30.:50:33.

to the text delivered by Michelle Obama when her husband

:50:34.:50:43.

won the Democratic Party's The passages in question focused

:50:44.:50:45.

on lessons that Melania Trump learned from her parents

:50:46.:50:49.

and her experience as a mother. From my young age my parents

:50:50.:51:01.

impressed on me the same values. You work hard, that your work is your

:51:02.:51:06.

bond. Your word is your bond and you say what you're going to do. You

:51:07.:51:12.

treat people with respect. With dignity and respect. The height of

:51:13.:51:20.

your achievements is the reach of your dreams and your willingness to

:51:21.:51:21.

work hard for them. In an exclusive interview, a man

:51:22.:51:25.

who has to tell police 24 hours in advance of having sex has told

:51:26.:51:28.

this programme his life John O'Neill was cleared of rape

:51:29.:51:31.

last year, but the judge said his fascination with S meant

:51:32.:51:40.

he was still a danger to women and police put him

:51:41.:51:44.

on a sexual risk order. In his first interview,

:51:45.:51:46.

he's been telling us I asked him why he's had this sexual

:51:47.:51:48.

risk order imposed upon him. This is the mystery that me and my

:51:49.:52:04.

lawyers have been trying to figure out. We were amazed that the police

:52:05.:52:12.

had made the application after an acquittal, a unanimous acquittal of

:52:13.:52:16.

the only crime that I have ever been accused of. We think it is sour

:52:17.:52:20.

grapes. They lost in court. They didn't just lose, they were

:52:21.:52:27.

humiliated in court for having utterly failed to do any detective

:52:28.:52:31.

work apparently. But it must have been explained to you when it was

:52:32.:52:35.

served upon you? They had their reasons, but the reasons are to get

:52:36.:52:46.

an SRO you need an act of a sexual nature which necessitates the risk

:52:47.:52:52.

order. Now, the act on which they rely are scratching and biting

:52:53.:52:59.

during sex. Consensual sex? Yes. Now, if that necessitates a sexual

:53:00.:53:04.

risk order they're going to have to be writing an awful lot of sexual

:53:05.:53:08.

risk orders. I would suspect the majority of the population is going

:53:09.:53:11.

to be subject to a sexual risk order. The real reason is they lost

:53:12.:53:19.

at trial and they're using misusing this new set of laws to effectively

:53:20.:53:25.

put me on retrial for rape after an acquittal because it is the same

:53:26.:53:29.

evidence. It is the same witnesses. It is just a retrial in miniature

:53:30.:53:36.

and on the 19th August, I will have a trial, if I lose, for that act, I

:53:37.:53:42.

become a convicted sex offender. It is utterly ridiculous. If you were

:53:43.:53:46.

to disclose to the police that you were going to have sex with someone

:53:47.:53:49.

24 hours later, what information would you have to give them? I have

:53:50.:53:56.

to give name, address, and date of birth. Of... Of any woman that I

:53:57.:54:00.

intend to have any sexual contact with. It is broader than just having

:54:01.:54:07.

sex. What does it include? Oh, it is ridiculous, sexual conversation

:54:08.:54:11.

would be included. Kissing is included. It's so sweeping. It is

:54:12.:54:19.

ridiculous. It is so badly worded I could breach this order by accident

:54:20.:54:22.

and in fact... How? That's effectively. Well, if I have a

:54:23.:54:25.

sexual conversation, the police can come along and say, "Right, that's

:54:26.:54:30.

sexual contact. Jail." Are you a dangerous man? No. In no respect,

:54:31.:54:36.

no. I have been accused of precisely one crime in my entire 45 years and

:54:37.:54:39.

I was unanimously acquitted. Sexual risk orders were introduced

:54:40.:54:56.

in 2014 under the anti-social behaviour crime and policing Act.

:54:57.:55:07.

Northumbria Police Commissioner Vera Baird has been familiar with them

:55:08.:55:11.

since they were introduced and believes they do have a role

:55:12.:55:14.

to play in protecting potential victims.

:55:15.:55:15.

She's a former lawyer, and ex Labour MP and solicitor-general.

:55:16.:55:18.

He has not been convicted. He has not gone to prison. It is a

:55:19.:55:23.

different thing. The judge said that he was a very dangerous man. He

:55:24.:55:27.

clearly has a different point of view. Possibly, we should park his

:55:28.:55:31.

case because there are two sides to every one and consider the position.

:55:32.:55:36.

It is only if it is necessary to make an order to protect some member

:55:37.:55:40.

of the public or the public generally from sexual harm when

:55:41.:55:45.

somebody has already done something of a sexual nature that such an

:55:46.:55:49.

order can be made. That order has to be proven on evidence to a court and

:55:50.:55:54.

it is pre-emptive. A classically, it is likely to be were somebody

:55:55.:55:58.

perhaps, I mean, a typical way of sexually abusing young women is if

:55:59.:56:04.

youngsters are hanging around on the street outside a coughy shop or a

:56:05.:56:09.

take-away or a bar, they can be befriended and they might be taken

:56:10.:56:13.

to parties where there are older men and loads of drink. If something

:56:14.:56:18.

stops, which looks like the inevitable conclusion, sex to follow

:56:19.:56:21.

with underage girl, if something stops t the girls get taken away and

:56:22.:56:25.

put into care, a police raid, whatever, nonetheless, the court

:56:26.:56:29.

might well think it is necessary not to just wait for the next set of

:56:30.:56:34.

girls that are not so lucky, but to make a pre-emptive order stopping

:56:35.:56:38.

men there from doing that stuff again. That's the intention. It is

:56:39.:56:48.

to protect against serious serious sexual harm. It is interesting we

:56:49.:56:52.

had to park the John O'Neill case and you used that example. There is

:56:53.:56:55.

a role for them, briefly, there is a role for them, in this country, when

:56:56.:57:01.

it comes to trying to stop potential crimes? There is a pre-emptive role

:57:02.:57:06.

for them. It has got to be done on evidence. It is a new provision, but

:57:07.:57:10.

it is one in a long line of orders of this kind that can stop people

:57:11.:57:16.

who there is in the court's mind a necessity to stop from taking steps.

:57:17.:57:20.

The police don't have to stand by and wait until the crime is

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committed if they can prove to the court it is necessary to protect

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somebody to prevent those steps being taken. Clearly, we don't have

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a full picture there, are Will have been a contested hearing in court.

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One, the judge said he was very dangerous, two, he says it was just

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sour grapes from the police, he can appeal against it if that was the

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situation. If you park that and consider the consider obviously, it

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is helpful for the police to manage such people and helpful for us not

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to have vulnerable people put at risk because no crime has been

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committed even though somebody may have been two-thirds of the way

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towards T More on the breaking news that three people have been shot

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this Lincolnshire. Richard Galpin tell us what you know? The police

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are saying three people have been killed. Firearms used. The gunman

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apparently was one of those who has been killed. This was in Spald in

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Lincolnshire. Near a swimming pool there. One of the key things is that

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the police are saying that they, there is no indication at the moment

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that this was a terrorist relatedence dent. And the police

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themselves did not actually open fire. They're urging members of the

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public to stay away for the time being. Thank you very much, Richard

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Galpin reporting. More, of course, throughout the day on BBC News.

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I'm still worried that, in the time you've been away,

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you've never resolved that anger, that...

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that chaos inside you, that need for destruction.

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