20/07/2016 Victoria Derbyshire

Our top story today, three dead following a disturbance

You don't see things like this around here now,

contrary to what people think, it is actually a quiet place now

of like wanting to know who it is and what's happened.

Calm down dear, listen to the doctor. There is one very big

difference. I lead my party. He follows his!

Of course he hates higher standards. Of course he hates opportunity. He

is socialist. It is a long time since we had a

tantrum from the Prime Minister. the House of Commons in her first

ever Prime Ministers Questions, what some political leaders have

described as the most nerve-wracking We'll talk to some of those whose

job has been to prepare leaders And are Uber drivers

self-employed or employees? That's the key question

in an employment tribunal Through the morning, we'll bring

you the latest breaking news The latest unemployment figures

are due out at around 9.30am. We'll bring you those and talk

for the first time to the new Work and Pensions Secretary,

Damian Green. Also send us a picture

of the unusual places where you're trying

to grab a bit of sun. Stav will have a full weather

forecast for you just before 10am. Two men and a woman have died

during a disturbance Police are investigating

whether one of the men fell The emergency services were called

to reports of a disturbance at this high-rise flat in the Tillydrone

area of Aberdeen at Police Scotland said three people

had been found with serious injuries, but later confirmed

that all three had died. Neighbours described

a heavy police presence One eyewitness said they saw

a man fall to the ground Lots of panic.

Police all scuttling about. The whole thing was cordoned off,

the front of the building What's been the reaction

from friends and people around here? Panic because you don't

see things around here, contrary to what people think

Tillydrone is a quiet place now. So everybody is wanting to know

who it is and what happened. Police say the investigation

is in the early stages but they aren't looking

for any other person Residents here in Tillydrone

have expressed their Police Scotland say the incident

appears to be contained. Annita is in the BBC Newsroom

with the rest of the day's news. Theresa May will make her first

overseas trip as Prime Minister later today when she travels

to Berlin for talks with the German The two leaders will discuss

the time frame for the UK's withdrawal from the European Union

and future trade relations. Tomorrow, Mrs May will travel

to Paris for talks with President Before she leaves

the UK this afternoon she'll take part in her first

Prime Minister's Questions The body of a 16-year-old boy has

been recovered from the water in Manchester. There are no suspicious

circumstances surrounding his death. A police officer was stabbed

when a water fight in London's Hyde Park turned

violent last night. Another officer was hit

with a bottle and two other people All four are being treated

in hospital, and no arrests Donald Trump has been formally

nominated as the Republican Party's candidate for the US presidential

election. A state-by-state vote at the party's

convention in Ohio confirmed that Mr Trump had the support

of the majority of delegates. He will accept the nomination

in a speech tomorrow as our North America correspondent

James Cook reports from Cleveland. When Donald Trump announced

he was running for president, many people dismissed his

candidacy as a joke. Confirmation that he'd secured

enough votes to become the nominee came from his home state

and his own son. And it's my honour to be able

to throw Donald Trump over the top in the delegate count tonight

with 89 delegates! Over the past year this property

developer has turned American politics upside down with a potent

mix of populist rhetoric. We're going to rebuild our depleted

military and take care On the streets of Cleveland,

in the country at large, Donald Trump attracts both

support and disgust. Well, these protests have been going

on for a couple of days here now. They're likely to continue

for the rest of the week and far beyond because the United States

shows no signs of reconciling Nonetheless, Mr Trump

is the Republican nominee and he will take on the former

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in November in an election

like no other. Finding affordable childcare may

be a struggle for many families this summer,

according to the Family A survey by the charity found none

of the councils in Wales and the east of England that

responded to it had enough places The average price of one week's

full-time holiday childcare now The British Medical Association has

criticised plans to remove patients in England from GP surgery lists

if they haven't had contact The intention behind the plans

is to find out whether patients no longer require services,

have moved house, left But the medical union says it

could be disruptive for patients The company behind the taxi app,

Uber, is being taken The action centres

on whether drivers should be treated as employees,

with rights to holiday pay, sick pay and the national

minimum wage, or whether, as Uber insists,

they're self-employed. The Turkish president,

Recep Tayyip Erdogan, is to use an emergency meeting

of his Security Council and Cabinet today to lay out plans to stabilise

the country in the wake of last An estimated 50,000 people

have been rounded up, sacked or suspended from their jobs

since the revolt was quashed. That's a summary of

the latest BBC News. Do get in touch with us

throughout the morning - We will be asking if you tell a lie

on an insurance firm whether you should get a pay-out. A decision is

being made in the Supreme Court and it could affect all of us.

Should the entire Russia team be banned from the Olympic Games

as punishment for state-sponsored doping?

Jessica Ennis-Hill's coach believes not.

The IOC is exploring its legal options before making a decision

and Tony Minichello says they should look at alternatives,

while making sure guilty individuals are penalised.

The whole thing about sport and anti-doping is about making sure the

sport is clean and protected clean athletes. So by giving the medals to

the clean athletes then that's the first thing. The second thing after

that, if you truly believe that a nation is not capable of hosting

major championships then maybe there is a period of time where you don't

allow that country to bid for any major championships, whatever that

maybe. Mark Cavendish has pulled out

of the Tour de France to concentrate The Manxman has won four stages this

year and there are just five to go but Rio will be his third

Olympic Games and he's yet He said staying on the Tour

could disrupt his bid to win gold For the first time in his career,

Tiger Woods will miss all four Majors in one year,

after withdrawing from next week's The 14-time major winner is now

ranked number 628 in the world and he hasn't played

a tournament for almost a year. He underwent two operations

last autumn to try to cure a back problem and his agent has confirmed

that he won't play for the rest of the season as he's still not

ready for "competitive golf". Now, to the vacant England

football manager's job. The FA have already spoken

to Sunderland boss Sam Allardyce and Bournemouth manager Eddie Howe

and USA coach Jurgen Klinsmann have Most recently, they've had "informal

discussions" with Hull City boss Steve Bruce, although the club says

no official approach has been made. For Bruce's part, he said

he put his case across and hoped it Scottish champions Celtic need

to get over the embarrassment of losing to the Gibraltan part-timers

Lincoln Red Imps last week. They're 1-0 down going

into tonight's home leg Last night Welsh league champions

the New Saints were knocked out in the second qualifying round,

losing 3-nil to Apoel Northern Ireland's Crusaders

were beaten 9-0 on aggregate Well, Chesterfield have

apologised to fans after apparently faking the winner

of a club competition. Supporters paid ?20 to enter

a raffle, the prize to join the team A winner was announced but the club

said he was too ill to travel, before admitting the entry

was not legitimate. Only four supporters

entered the competition! So Chesterfield fans not

happy at all! We will have more sport later

in the hour and after 10am and we will hear from England

Cricketer Jonny Bairstow after the disappointing defeat

to Pakistan at the weekend. Thank you very much, Hugh.

Are they new glasses or have I missed them? They're not new, but I

don't wear them all the time so you might have missed them. You don't

actually need them? I do need them. I wear contact lenses the rest of

the time! Looking good! Looking good!

Let's go to Westminster and Norman? The Labour leadership contest is

kicking off in earnest today and although it only just started, all

the signs are it is going to be a fairly bruising affair with some of

the Owen Smith's, the challengers remarks, which he made ten years,

coming back to haunt him. This is when he was working for Pfizer and

there were some quotes in which he appears to suggest that he was in

favour of a bigger role for the private sector in the NHS and all

the indications are that maybe some in the Corbyn camp are quite happy

for those remarks to come back and haunt him. As I say, all the

indications are it could be pretty tough. So, you know, it will be a

bruising affair, but Owen Smith's joining me now. Let me just ask you

a few questions about your leadership contest. First of all,

I'm curious, you're challenging Mr Corbyn because you have gone out of

your way to praise him. You said he is a radical. The party owes a lot

to him, why not just leave him there? Because I don't think he is a

leader Norman. I don't think he can win the trust and the respect of the

British people to get Labour elected. Jeremy has got great Labour

values, and great Labour principles and he has been someone who got

Labour to understand our radical roots and reneed radicalism, but I

don't think we can win an election for us, and without power and

without the principles to put that into practise, it is all hot air.

The Tory Government has been riding roughshod over working people in

this country for six years and we need a powerful, Labour opposition,

that really takes them on and exposes their failings and

crucially, we need a Labour Government in waiting and that's

what I'm determined to lead. So are you then just a more plausible, a

more media savvy Jeremy Corbyn? , no I'm Owen Smith. I'm my own man. I'm

somebody who understands Labour values, I've grown up in the Labour

movement. I understand what we are for and what we have always been

for, we want a fair society. We want everybody to have opportunities. But

we have got to have concrete ideas to do that. Jeremy has been great at

slogans, what we need to be great is solutionsment yes, we are

anti-austerity, but what does it mean, we have got to be propos

perity for everybody. It means we need to invest in this country.

Let's have a British new deal, a ?200 billion fund to invest in

schools, hospitals, our young people, social care, housing, we

should be building 300,000 houses a year. Jeremy talks about it. Let's

have principled ideas to do it. You say you don't want slogans, let me

put it ?200 billion to build 300,000 sounds like a slogan, A, where is

the money coming from and are you talking about a massive council

house programme? We should be building council housing and

allowing our local councils... ?300,000 a year. Absolutely. So this

is going back to the old estates? No, we need to build decent housing.

We are going back to what Nye Bevan did. He managed 260,000 houses a

year. The Tories in the 1950s were building 300,000 housesment we

should be building that much and we should be using Government debt,

long dated quilts, borrowing in order to build that. It is not

whether we can afford to do it, Norman, we can't afford not to do

it. Britain is falling behind. Let me ask you another of the charges

made against you which is you are a flip-flopper. You are a, you were an

old Blairite and now you're repackaging yourself as a left of

centre politician, you said Jeremy Corbyn was going to lead the party

into the next election and now you're challenging himment you

flip-flop over the place? No, I don't. I have been a conviction

politician for the period when I have been a politician. I grew up in

South Wales in the town I represent, my political awakening if you like

Norman was the Miners' Strike in 1984, 1985 when I marched alongside

friends and family who were out of work in that period, marched back

with them and I'm someone who has been on the left of the Labour Party

and understood our traditions all of my life, but I'm also someone who

knows you need to modernise those traditions. You need to, as John

Prescott used to say, put them in a modern setting and that's what I'm

determined to do. are a I'm going to try to bring

Victoria in but let me ask you a few questions. Let me ask you a few

quick once so people can get a sense of who you are. The steel industry,

are you in favour of nationalising it? I'm in favour of state -- saving

the steel industry whatever way possible and if that requires

nationalisation, that is an thing we should be prepared to do and that's

why the Tories are doing it. It's a disaster to allow Britain to become

a country without the capacity to make steel. We can't be a serious

country and a serious industrial power if we don't have steel.

Private schools? Would you end their charitable status? I would look at

that very serious leak, we have a two tier school system in Britain

and it's not worked for this country for a long time. We have two narrow

inequalities. That is one of the things that should be looked at.

Would you give the go-ahead to Hinkley Point, nuclear power? Yes,

we should have a varied means of producing power. We should be

looking at renewables much harder but nuclear is necessary and I would

invest in it. Women only carriages on the tube railways? I think that

-- that's a silly idea, a return to some daft Victorian notion of the

gap between the genders. We are in favour of equality and that would

not be my idea of it. We will leave it there. Thank you for joining us.

If there is something you want to ask maybe you ask me and I can ask

him but we have not got his earpiece sorted out. I wanted to know if he

regrets describing himself as a normal family man in contrast to his

former rival Angela Eagle, who is a gay woman without children. How is

that different from what Andrea Leadsom said about Theresa May? I

did not describe myself as normal! I was on the Eamonn Homs show three

days ago and he went to a chap from the Daily Mail, and he said what do

you think of this Alyn Smith blow? He said they don't know much about

him but he sees zero -- seems normal. I said I was normal but I

was no way -- in their web like that anyone with a different lifestyle to

me is anything other than normal. It is a gross and silly exaggeration of

what was a throwaway comment, not even by me but by another

journalist. If you look at the camera, hopefully you can hear

Victoria. Just about. Good morning. You said this morning it was a

mistake when you were a BBC producer, you rang 999 to get a

comment from the police on a particular story. You said it was

embarrassing. I just wonder what that says about your judgment,

though? Let me be clear about this. It was over 20, perhaps 25 years ago

and I was a cub reporter on a BBC radio show. I didn't ring 999 but I

did do something pretty stupid, ringing a police hotline, having

been pressured, if you like, to try to get a comment from the police on

a story. I confess I don't even remember what the story was but it

was clearly a really stupid and embarrassing thing to do. I was

embarrassed about it at the time and I am now but I think my judgment is

not called into question by this. It was a foolish mistake by a young

man. You were a grown-up. No, look, I said it was a silly thing to do,

it was a mistake. I was a new researcher in the BBC. I obviously

think it was a stupid thing to do. People have made bigger mistake than

that in their lives, I think. I am honest enough to say it was a

mistake and I regret doing it but I don't think anyone lost their life

over the issue and I think it is something we should move on. I've

certainly moved on and I hope others can. I want to play you a clip from

the GMB this morning, when you were being asked a question there about a

former job you had. We are going to play it for the audience. I'm like a

deer Selponi, I'm going to take them on and win. Didn't you have detest

all the products adviser? That is for me and Mrs Smith the know.

Really? I would have thought the straight answer would be no, you

would not have do does the products. That's called a joke. It was just a

joke. Having opened the door to the doubt, have you ever tried Viagra?

No, I haven't. LAUGHTER That was the answer. I haven't

needed it! What do you think about being asked if you had taken Viagra?

As I said Norman and minute ago, it has been a whirlwind, so far, in the

space of 20 minutes, I have been asked if I would press the nuclear

button and have I tried Viagra? These are the kind of things I'm

going to have to deal with. I will take them in my stride. The fact you

are standing is a kick in the teeth for the Labour members, isn't it? I

didn't quite hear that. The fact you are standing at all is a kick in the

teeth for Labour members. No, the Labour members are hugely important,

they are at the centre of the party and I greatly welcome the fact that

Jeremy is exceeded in bringing in thousands and thousands of new

members. So don't stand, then. But I say to those members that I want a

Labour government, not just a protest movement. I want us to be

standing here as a credible radical government in waiting. I am just as

radical as Jeremy Corbyn but I think I am able to turn slogans into

solutions. I think I am able to say that in new generation of Labour men

and women, a new generation of Democratic Socialists need to

provide answers for this country. The country is crying out for a

Labour government, standing ready to invest in them and the future of

Britain. We can't cut our way to grow. Anyone like me who has worked

in business knows that. We need a government that is prepared to be

courageous and have convictions and take it forward. That means

investing, which is why I've talked about a British new Deal and the

Labour Party recommitting itself to be unequivocally a party that will

tackle the scourge of inequality in this country. That is why I want new

constraints on the British governance when it comes to taking

the country to war. That is why I want us to redouble our efforts to

deal with climate change and I want greater party democracy. I want to

set up a Senate, Shadow Cabinet of party members to advise me as leader

of the Labour Party. I want new ways in which we retrain greater contact

between the members and the leadership of the party in

Westminster. -- retain greater contact. Members are right that they

have been treated shabbily by previous leaderships. We should be

investing in our members. Michael Gove said the other day years sick

of experts. I'm not. I want experts in the Labour Party, experts in our

values, to inform me as leader as to what they think Labour should be

doing. I will do that if I am the leader. Is there any evidence you

have actually achieved anything politically? Yes, so, the two big

things I think Labour has won in the last few months has been the reverse

of the tax credits cuts will stop I led that campaign on the front bench

for Labour, as the Shadow DWP secretary. In conjunction with some

Tories as well. I was the leader, the second big thing I'm incredibly

proud of having achieved is the reversal of the cuts to personal

independence payments for disabled people in this country. I thought

that tooth and nail and forced the Tories to turn tail on it. -- I've

bought that. I full them into a U-turn and I'd like to think I've

played a little part in winning those battles, in getting rid of

Iain Duncan Smith, who I think many Labour Party supporters thought was

a scourge in this country and I'm pleased that he went on my watch.

Those are tangible achievement and I will do a lot more if I get to be

leader. Jeremy Corbyn would say he had a lot to do with both of those

things as well. I was working for him and I didn't get a lot of

guidance from him. Do you need it? Matt Kirby we spoke about it after

I'd achieve them but I will tell you straight, it was me who drove it

forward in the Labour Party and I will drive us forward in future. Do

you need it? I thought you wanted the top job. Of course you need

guidance, anyone in a top job in any walk of life should never be so

arrogant as to assume they've got all the answers. That's why I have

said it is not enough for us to just have guidance around the Shadow

Cabinet table from members who are MPs. I will create an additional

Shadow Cabinet, if you like, of members of the party, drawn from

across the country, to give me grass-roots advice on how Labour

leader should be approaching the problems of the day in government

and in opposition. Jess Phillips, a colleague of yours and Labour MP for

Birmingham said last night on the news that Labour has a problem with

women. Do you agree? I think we've had a massive problem recently with

misogyny and intolerance in the party, anti-Semitism, racism and the

awful way in which women in the labour movement have been treated.

It has been appalling to witness this. What have you seen? I think we

have two stamp it out. What have you witnessed? Jeremy Coney truce, as

spoken a lot about it but we need to be more vigorous. -- Jeremy, it's

true. You said what you witnessed is not good. What have you witnessed?

All of us, I was subject to death threats just yesterday on social

media. But some of the women in the Labour Party, some of our great,

brave Labour women been subject to appalling abuse, absolutely

disgraceful, outrageous abuse online. It is utterly unacceptable.

These are quite often, I think, criminal acts, utterly reprehensible

and they have to be treated with zero tolerance in labour. We are the

Labour Party, for goodness sakes, the party of equality, tolerance and

fairness. We can't put up with this. If we don't set an example to the

rest of the country come if we can't set an example ourselves, what good

are we to people? Jeremy Schneider have stamped on this a lot harder.

He's let it run, some people think he has even encouraged it. I don't

know that but I know it's got to be stamped out. Do using key has

encouraged it? I don't know but I don't he's been strong enough. -- do

you think he has encouraged it? He's not recognised the depth of the

problem. Lots of women in the Labour Party are horrified he's allowed

this to continue and has not been anything like as strong as he should

be in stamping it out. It's utterly unacceptable for any abuse to be

visited on anybody but absolutely utterly unacceptable for women in

the Labour Party, women who are standing up for their communities,

fighting for their values, to be subject to this. I will never put up

with that. I will call it out and stamp it out if I'm given the

chance. If Jeremy Corbyn beats you, and many say that is likely to

happen, you could be potentially responsible for spreading the Labour

Party. What I put to Jeremy is, my fear is, if he wins, he will be the

man who split the Labour Party. I don't think the members will see it

like that. A path to a split in the Labour Party, some across the party

have become fatalistic about that and it will be a disaster for

working people if Labour were to split. We would be destroyed.

Working people would no longer have a people's party standing on their

side, standing up for them. Jeremy has got to realise that. That's why

I have asked him to compromise, become the president of labour, use

his values to speak for the labour movement, to induce people, --

induce people, to get get them to join the party but allowed the party

Westminster to be led by the people in the vanguard of taking the fight

to the Tories, some they can place their trust in, some on the country

can look at and say, this man or woman might be some who they feel is

a credible future leader of the country. Now we have got lots of

people who can be that. Angela Eagle would be a brilliant leader of the

Labour Party but I am proud that my colleagues in Westminster chose me

to try to save the Labour Party and unite us, to bring us back together

as a labour movement and to make us once more into a powerful opposition

and then, in time, a credible government in waiting. We have lost

peoples respect in this country. The Party has been laughed at in some

quarters. That can't continue. I'm determined to make us a credible

government in waiting. How likely is a split? If we carry on this

trajectory, it will split. That's why I'm standing. I went to see

Jeremy on three occasions. I told to me had to realise the party is

teetering on the brink of extension. If we split, we will be destroyed.

That is why we need to heal the Labour Party and need a change in

leadership at the top. That is why we need me to lead Labour and bring

us back together. We have always been a coalition of different

perspectives across the Labour movement but when we are strong is

when we are united. At the moment we are divided and divided parties

don't get elected. Divided parties are not trusted by the British

public which is why Jeremy needs to move aside and given that he has

refused to do that, he has to be challenged. I will challenge him

respectfully and debate the issues with him. I want him to debate with

me right across Britain. I'm a bit worried we are only having three

head-to-head hustings in the party. I want 300, not three, to be in

every room and every village hall, the length and breadth of Britain

alongside Jeremy, putting my case for a radical, credible,

next-generation Labour offer and I'm convinced if I do that, I can

persuade the members I will be just as radical and I can hopefully

deliver a Labour government in time. Let me read you some comments from

people watching you speak. Robert says, "Owen Smith believes in

democracy but only when it suits MPs". Clive says, "It is a kick in

the teeth because we voted for Jeremy Corbyn. You are a traitor to

Labour". I don't believe that. Of course you don't but that is what

members are saying. For me, it is the Labour Party or nothing. But I

say to those party members, if they are members, that we have got to be

more than a protest party. We have got to be a party that is a credible

government in waiting. That means, I fear, moving on. Jeremy is to be

thanked because he has helped Labour rediscover its radical roots which

is why so many people have joined the party. They want a radical

Labour Party but they also want a party that can win. If I win, if I

get to lead a labour opposition and a Labour government, I say to those

members that I will be radical, I am on the left of the Labour Party and

I will provide radical solutions for the challenges Britain is facing. I

have heard that now. Investing in manufacture, building housing we

need in this country, investing in and education and skills. I will be

a radical Labour leader. The leader this country needs.

Caroline says, "Owen Smith comes across with great passion."

Strategic Rail Authority tweets, "Owen Smith is hysterical. More

politicians need a sense of humour like him." Ails says, "Watching you

on the Vic toria Derbyshire, I decided that Owen Smith is David

Cameron with spectacles." Well, David Cameron walked past me in the

lobby in the House of Commons and I was told by another journalist that

Cameron pointed at me and said, "What's going on?" For the first

time ever I knew more than him! The key thing is people have lost a bit

of trust and respect in Labour. The worst thing that happened to me

recently, Victoria, I went to the local pub with my wife to watch the

Wales versus Belgium game and a mate of mine, somebody I've known since I

was a toddler said, "I heard you want to be the leader of the Labour

Party. What on earth for?" That's the most damning hurtful thing that

anybody could say. But it is a measure of how low we've fallen in

public he is seem. We have got to win it back and look like serious

conviction and serious politicians and I am that and Labour is full of

people that believe in Labour values. They come into politics to

serve this country. We need to be given a chance to do that and with

Jeremy as leader, we fear we won't be given a chance to did that and

this generation of good hearted, solid Labour men and women might not

be given a chance to lead this country with conviction as we want

to. I'm saying give us a chance to do that. I'm saying to the members

give me a chance to hue night and heal our party. Thank you very much

for your time. For thauking to Norman and us. This news just in.

Unemployment fell by 54,000 to 1.65 million people. That's between March

and May. Official figures just out from the ONS show.

We will talk to the man whose brief covers employment and unemployment,

he is Damian Green. We will talk to him in 20 minutes time.

Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

Two men and a woman have died during a disturbance

Police are investigating whether one of the men fell from a balcony

of the 19-storey Donside Court, in the Tillydrone area of the city.

Police Scotland said it believed the incident was contained

and there was not a threat to the wider community.

Lots of panic, um, police all scuttling about.

The whole thing was cordoned off, front of the building

What has been the reaction of your friends

Panic, because you don't see things like this around here now.

Tillydrone's actually a quiet place now.

So everybody's sort of, like, wanting to know

who it is and what happened and if it's anybody

Theresa May will take part in her first session of Prime Minister's

After her appearance in the Commons at noon,

Mrs May will then travel to Germany for talks with the German

The two leaders will discuss the time frame for the UK's

withdrawal from the European Union and future trade relations.

Tomorrow, Mrs May will travel to Paris for talks

We are hearing that Theresa May has told the President of the European

Council Donald Tusk that the UK will give up its six month presidency of

the European Council. That was due to come in next year. It is a

rotating six month presidency. The UK is going to relinquish that.

Theresa May has told Donald Tusk. The body of a 16-year-old boy has

been recovered from a river Police say the teenager had been

in the water in Hyde with a group of friends,

and there are no suspicious A police officer was stabbed

when a water fight in London's Hyde Park turned

violent last night. Another officer was hit

with a bottle and two other people All four are being treated

in hospital and no arrests The company behind the taxi app,

Uber, is being taken to The action centres

on whether drivers should be treated as employees,

with rights to holiday pay, sick pay and the national

minimum wage, or whether, as Uber insists,

they're self-employed. That's a summary of

the latest BBC News. Thank you very much. Mez on Twitter

says, "Owen Smith came across as a man of conviction. He gets my vote.

Not all members are Corbyn Is tas." Would you prefer Owen Smith or

Jeremy Corbyn if you are a Labour supporter. Deborah sent us a

photograph of her dog, marly, cooling off. I was going to show you

it right now, but I messed up the technical. I'm sorry. I promise I

will show you a picture of marly cooling off before long!

But I've, spare a thought for my dog, Gracie, a black cocker spaniel

who when I take her out for a walk is like this. She can't wait to get

home. I look forward to the dog pictures because I know you're going

to flood me with them. The International Olympic Committee

is exploring its "legal options" before deciding whether to ban

the entire Russia team Track and field athletes are already

suspended but confirmation of state-endorsed doping means

the IOC may impose Mark Cavendish has pulled out

of the tour de France and switched his focus

to the Olympics. Rio will be his third Games and he's

never won a medal. Tiger Woods won't be playing in next

week's US PGA Championship, meaning he'll miss all four Majors

in a year for the first Woods has plummeted

to number 628 in the world. And Steve Bruce says he's

flattered to be considered The Hull City boss had "informal

discussions" with the FA. He says he put his case

across and hoped it That's all the sport for now. I will

be back after 10am. Good morning.

Let's bring you the latest on the unemployment figures. Theo Leggett

fill us in. The employment rate is 74.4% or was during the period from

March to the end of May. That's the highest since comparable records

began in 1971. And the unemployment rate was 4.9%, that's down from 5.6%

a year earlier and the last time that was lower was for July to

September 2005. Although we have had a period of uncertainty during the

first part of the year, the trend of increasing employment and reducing

unemployment seems to have continued. And these are figures for

which months? This is before the vote to leave the referendum? It is

before the referendum, it is March to May which encompasses a period

when people were wondering what the result of the referendum would be

and there were thoughts that economic activity might have been

subdued because of that, but obviously, the actual results of the

referendum weren't known during that period. Thank you for the moment,

thank you. We will talk to the Work and

Pensions Secretary Damian Green shortly.

An infantry soldier in the rivals regiment died while on a training

exercise in the Brecon areas of Wales, that's just in from the

Ministry of Defence. An infantry soldier in the Rivals regiment died

while on a training exercise in the Brecon area of Wales. Clearly high

temperatures across the country yesterday, but a soldier has died

after a training exercise in Brecon and that happened yesterday. He was

in the Rifles regiment. Food and water in short supply,

no electricity or access to health care and life constantly at risk

from either violent and extreme so-called Islamic state militants

or government shelling. Life for people who live

in Fallujah, a town in Iraq which has been

under IS control for longer Since the siege of Fallujah began,

we've been bringing you regular updates on what's happening

to the families who live there. Last month the Iraqi government

managed to retake control 85,000 people have now fled

the fighting in Falluja and one of the aid workers

there has kept a video diary, for this programme, to show

the impact the last two years has Dr Bernardita Gaspar has been

working with the tens of thousands of people who have been forced

to leave their homes he was heading with

his mum to get medication when a

shell fell down and exploded. Really moving footage, there. She

will continue to update us and you on how things go for those who fled

to the refugee camps, trying to escape horrific fighting and

shelling in Falluja. One of the cities in Iraq that IS had taken

over from 2014, but the Iraqi governor and now say they have

retaken. Unemployment fell by 54,000, to 1.65

million people between March and May, official figures just out show.

Let's talk to the new Work and Pensions Secretary, Damian green.

Good morning. Congratulations on your new job.

How do you respond to today's figures? I'm delighted, they are

excellent figures, not just the headline figures which means that

the unemployment rate is below 5% for the first time in more than a

decade, but if you drill down into them a bit, you will find that we

have more women at work than ever before, we have got 18-24

-year-olds' unemployment down to levels we have not seen for a long

time. Employment has gone up in every part of the country. It is not

just a London and south-east phenomenon. This is employment going

all around the country which is great news for thousands and

millions of people all around the country. I think I am right in

saying that unemployment is at its lowest rate in a decade. I wonder if

that is going to change now in your view, that we have voted for Brexit?

That is clearly the big challenge we have coming up. There's a lot of

uncertainty surrounding Britain and our place in the world and that is

why, I think there are two points to make in response to that. Firstly,

today's figures clearly show we have got the strongest possible platform

to go into this new world and secondly, this is why, for example,

the Prime Minister is flying off to see Angela Merkel later today. She

is cracking on with the job of trying to restore certainty so that

we can have a successful Brexit negotiation which will mean that we

can build on this very strong economic platform we have had, to

make Britain open to the whole world, including what will be our

former partners in the EU. That is clearly a vital task ahead in our

government. You wanted Britain to stay in the EU and you issued

warnings in the run-up to the referendum. I want to check if you

stand by them now we have voted to leave. On May the 24th, you said,

"We will have lower economic growth. That means jobs will be under

threat, prices would rise and funding for local schools and

hospitals would fall". Of course, I stand by what I said, and therefore,

that is why it is so important. We have had the referendum and my side

lost. We have got to get on with the new reality. The British people have

spoken and one of the key tasks for the new government is precisely to

look at what could go wrong and stop it happening and make sure that we

do everything we can, both in terms of the Brexit negotiations but also

in terms of signing new trade deals with the rest of the world and in

other ways, making Britain an attractive place for people to

continue to come and create jobs. One of the things we have been very

good at in recent years is attracting inward investment. We

need to keep doing that. I think that is a key task. You are a former

Home Office minister. Where are the Conservatives now on your manifesto

pledge to bring down net migration to the tens of thousands? Well, we

are precisely there. We have said that... Indeed, the new Home

Secretary, Amber Rudd said yesterday, she wanted to bring

immigration down to sustainable levels. Yes, that's why I was

asking, do sustainable levels still mean in the tens of thousands? Yes

it does. Clearly, it is going to be a long and difficult task. We have

seen what is happened because we are such an attractive country to work

in, you know, with 90% of the workforce being UK nationals but

other people come here to work as well. Actually, making sure we have

got the right balance and that we do get net immigration down to the tens

of thousands is a long task. Clearly, that is one of the key

elements of the negotiations we will be having with the other countries

in the EU, to make sure that we have our immigration system in balance as

well as all the economic negotiations we will have to have.

You will know the Foreign Secretary said we should not have a target at

all because it will only lead to "Disappointing people". We said what

we said in the manifesto and we will stick to that. The use of the word

sustainable is the same thing. We have said that is the kind of

sustainable level, not only in terms of our economy, but also in terms of

the wider social elements. I always said when I was Immigration Minister

years ago that it is a numbers game to some extent and if things change

too fast, if people's neighbourhoods change too quickly, that is when

they feel insecure and that is when you get the risk of social tensions.

Obviously, we want to avoid anything like that. Final question, in your

time in a Home Office, you brought in what are called sexual risk

orders and yesterday, I spoke to a father from Yorkshire, John O'Neill,

who has had one of these orders imposed on him and what it means is

that he is banned from having sex with any new partner unless he gives

the police 24 hours notice. This is what he said yesterday.

I have to give... name, address and date of birth.

Of any woman that I intend to have any sexual contact with.

What does it include? Oh, it's ridiculous.

Sexual conversation would be included.

What would they do with that information?

OK, in theory, there's a disclosure document.

And what they do is, they'll go around and say

"Mr O'Neill is subject to something called a Sexual Risk Order.

He is considered to be potentially dangerous".

Then they ask that woman to sign a form and leave, and that's it.

So can you imagine the horror of that?

You've just met someone and you're at the point where

you're deciding whether to date, and then that happens.

Convicted criminals don't get these types of orders.

I'm not going to ask you about the individual case, clearly but I want

to ask you about the principle. How can it be fair to impose this on

someone who has done nothing wrong in the eyes of the law, who is not a

Bremen, who is an innocent man? It is all about protecting women and in

particular, children. -- not a criminal. That is the purpose of

these orders. Again, I can't comment on the individual case. But the

principle is how is this fair? The orders are granted by a court. They

are not done by the police. I know, a magistrate court, how can it be

fair to impose someone on someone who has done nothing wrong? -- to

impose one. If it serves to protect, innocent women, and particularly,

children, they are granted by the courts if they perceive a risk and

therefore, we are protecting women. I think many people would think,

given what we have discovered over recent years, that measures that can

protect women are well worth while having as part of the armoury for

the courts. Thank you for joining us. Damian Green, the new Work and

Pensions Secretary. As summer holidays get

As summer holidays get underway - there are fears that a new wave

of girls from the UK will be taken abroad by their parents to undergo

FGM involves cutting off the female genitalia,

either partially or totally, and is sometimes also

There are around 137,000 women and girls affected by FGM

living in Britain - with the highest prevalence in

And on top of that, it's estimated that 60,000 women and girls

illegal to take someone abroad to have the procedure carried out.

Though so far there have been no convictions in the UK.

If a professional like a doctor, nurse or social worker suspects

a girl under 18 has been through FGM they are required to report it

And now for the first time the UN has labelled the practice

Our Global Health correspondent Tulip Mazumdar has been looking

at what's being done here and abroad to combat it.

Her report contains upsetting and graphic details

about the practice so you will want to make sure you do not have

In front of you is the girls school, ready to recite a poem.

Most of these girls ran away from home because they were about to be

In some tribes, the tradition where parts of a girl's genitals

are removed marks the point the child becomes a woman.

She was later told she was now a woman and that she had to marry

They do that act, in a small corner, so they call the girl.

"So you sit, if you are not a coward, girl".

Yes, if you are not a coward, just sit there.

And after that act, you will be given a prize.

What was the prize? What did you get?

You feel like you are going to faint.

All of these girls risked their lives by running away

They are no longer at risk of being mutilated and crucially,

these girls won't go on to harm their own daughters.

Agnes, who runs the rescue centre and school, is trying to stamp out

the brutal custom in her ancient Masai community.

She introduced me to women in a nearby village,

including a former cutter, who did a demonstration

So you scrape the side of it and take off the clitoris, here.

It emerged the cutting used to happen right where we stood.

It is difficult to imagine how terrifying this experience

Kenya banned female genital mutilation in 2011.

The UN's Agency for Children says young girls are far less likely

TRANSLATION: This is a tradition that is very important

Otherwise, the girls would want sex all the time.

We are not allowed to do it any more.

Otherwise I would cut my seven-year-old daughter

These attitudes are not just found in remote,

traditional parts of sub-Saharan Africa.

Girls who live in some communities in the UK are also being cut.

That is why Operation Limelight is underway at London's

Have you ever heard about FGM, female genital mutilation?

It's just raising awareness with people...

Border police are patrolling departure lounges, trying to raise

awareness about the practice, and telling people that female

genital mutilation is illegal, including if you take a child out

We are educating them about female genital mutilation but we are also

looking at passengers that may have been of interest to us

Become either a victim of female genital mutilation and we might talk

to them when they come back into the country

This woman is travelling to Iran with her three children.

She has given police several different stories about why

she is taking her girls out of school early.

After taking their details, the family is allowed

It is very challenging because also, you don't want to assume that

everybody is taking their child out for female genital mutilation.

Some people are genuinely going on holiday and some people

are just going abroad to see family members.

So it is very, very challenging but we have to make sure

Officers hope that by arming people with all the facts about female

genital mutilation and how harmful it is, families will choose not

Back in Kenya, in these deeply traditional, patriarchal

communities away from the big, cosmopolitan cities,

many men still demand that women are cut.

We are on our way to meet a traditional Masai tribe

who are fighting against female genital mutilation is

They are refusing to marry any girl who has been cut.

These young men travel all around the country with one clear message:

We use it as a way to bring the youth together, to bring

the community together and spread the messages,

and tell them that female genital mutilation is not that important.

In the dormitories, Jane is feeling hopeful about her future.

What do you want to do with your life?

I want to study well now and I want also to go to the National School

and also I want to go to a big university in Kenya.

So, I say, I like to study, study hard, so that one day,

one time, I will stand for these girls and I will fight

There are still many hurdles ahead but also,

high hopes that young girls in Kenya today will become the first

generation to be spared the brutal cut.

Here is the weather. Sheer is Stav. What a scorcher yesterday. These

were the highest temperatures across the UK. Cardiff saw a 32 Celsius.

Making it the hottest day of the year for many places, but had to

end. It has gone off with a bang across northern and western areas.

You can see a first line of thunderstorms which produced the

lightening strike through the night. This batch of thunder and lightening

and torrential rain has been moving up through the Irish Sea, through

Wales and north-west England and in towards central and Southern

Scotland. It produced atrocious driving conditions and hail, gusty

winds and frequent lightening. This is going to continue through the

course of the day. Mainly across northern England and ins towards

Scotland. Thunder and lightening and later through the afternoon some

thunderstorms, isolated, developing through the Midlands and towards

south-east England. Generally speaking, cooling down trend across

northern and western areas. Certainly Scotland and Northern

Ireland, but another day of height wave conditions a-- heatwave

conditions. The showers and thunderstorms across eastern areas

continue for a while this evening and become more located and

overnight, most places dry and clear. A bit cool and fresher than

it was last night, but muggy across England and Wales. For Thursday,

Friday, turning cooler for all. The Labour Party will split if

Jeremy Corbyn stays on as leader. That claim biowent Smith. If we

carry on the trajectory we have been on, it will split. I went to see

Jeremy on three occasions and said you have got to realise this party

is teetering on the brink of extinction. We will ask Labour MPs

if they agree. Calm down, dear. Calm down.

Listen... Listen to the doctor! I know there is one very big

difference. I lead my party, he follows his!

Of course, he hates higher standards. Of course, he hates

opportunity. He's socialist. It is a long time since we had quite

a tantrum from the Prime Minister. It is Theresa May's turn to face the

House of Commons in for the first time as Prime Minister.

Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

The Labour leadership challenger Owen Smith has told this programme

that the party is "teetering on the brink of extinction".

Mr Smith said if the party continued

with the trajectory it was on, he believed that it would split -

If we split, we will be destroyed. That's why we need to heal the

Labour Party. That's why we need a change in leadership at the top.

That's why we need me to lead Labour and bring us all back together. We

have always been a coalition, Victoria, different prospectives

across the Labour movement, but when we are strong, it is when we are

united and at the moment, we are divided and divided parties do not

get elected. Divided parties are not trusted by the British public and

that is why Jeremy needs to move aside and given that he has refused

to do that, he has to be challenged. Theresa May will take part in her

first session of Prime Minister's After her appearance

in the Commons at noon - Mrs May will then travel to Germany

for talks with the German The two leaders will discuss

the time frame for the UK's withdrawal from the European Union

and future trade relations. Tomorrow, Mrs May will

travel to Paris for talks Meanwhile Downing Street says the UK

will relinquish its upcoming six-month presidency

of the European Council The presidency

of the council rotates among Theresa May confirmed the decision

during a conversation with the council president Donald

Tusk. Mr Tusk told the Prime Minister

he will help make the UK's exit from the EU to happen

"as smoothly as possible". A soldier has died while

on a training exercise yesterday The Ministry

of Defence said the soldier Earlier this year, the MOD

was censured over the deaths of three Army reservists

in the Brecon Beacons, Live to Cardiff and our

correspondent Hywel Griffiths. We can't escape the parallels, can we,

yesterday the hottest day of the year. Is there any suggestion at

this stage that the soldier's death was linked to the hot conditions?

All we know from the MoD at the moment is they have said one soldier

did die yesterday on manoeuvres on the Brecon Beacons. The soldier

hasn't been identified. We know only that he is from the infantry

training centre in Catterick. He was on a precourse training. So not

actually on a full selection test. But preparing for, a course on the

Brecon Beacons. Now, it was the hottest day of the year on the

Brecon Beacons yesterday and that has echoes of what happened three

years ago when three Army Reservists died while on a similar training

manoeuvre, what is known locally as the fan dance where people walk for

several hours carrying heavy packs. The MoD said that it made changes to

the way people are trained, the checks that are in place including

what happens when the weather temperature rises. However, we wait

to hear from the MoD what was the cause of death from this soldier and

whether it was heat related. Hywel, thank you.

More at 10.30am, back to you Victoria.

Thank you for your pictures. I'm not sure I asked for as many as the ones

you sent me, but thank you! One owner didn't leave their name sent

this picture of her dog, Phoebe. So how is she staying cool? She is

staying in a chair with a bib on. I don't know how that would make her

cool. Wendy and her cat. This is Lendy. This is like YouTube! I said

animals that were cooling down! David and his dog Lexie.

That's a dog who has been to the vets! I feel sorry that we've shown

that poor dog on national television!

Thank you. Thank you. Finally, finally, a dog that's cool under a

brolly, thank you for those. Get in touch throughout the morning.

Well it was a disappointing end to a thrilling Investec Test Match

last Sunday as Pakistan beat England by 75 runs at Lord's.

Their talisman was the spinner Yasir Shah who took ten wickets

but there are some shoots of optimism for England,

including batsman Jonny Bairstow and his great form this year.

I spoke to him earlier to look ahead of the Second Test on Friday.

We're going into the next two days of training, really excited. We know

there is a lot of hard work to be done and we have seen the skills on

show from Pakistan. So we know the assets they have got. We have got to

counter act them and we have got to work hard, but it is an exciting

time for English cricket. Over the last 18 months we have done a lot of

exciting things and come back from losses previously. So yeah, going

into the Old Trafford test the crowd will be fantastic, very different to

Lords. And it is an exciting place to come and play. You've got the

return of James Anderson, Ben Stokes and Rasheed what, do you think they

will bring to the line-up if they are in the starting 11? Yeah, I

mean, it shows the massive strength and depth with English cricket to

have those guys missing from the first Test and it is fantastic to

have them back fit now and in the squad to be selected from for the

next Test match. Jimmy, obviously, the world's, well England's highest

ever wicket taker and Stokes, the skills that he shows with ball on

bat and I'm delighted for my team-mate to come back and it is

fantastic for Yorkshire and fantastic for him. On to you, when

the match ended on Sunday, you scored 225 more runs in Test cricket

than anyone else this year. Do you feel that you finally become a

mature Test cricketer? I think there is still a long way to go, but I'm

pleased with the way things are going at the moment. You only have

to rewind perhaps well, less than 12 months and I wasn't in the test

set-up. So after having those 18 months away from the test side, you

go away and you learn your trade and you learn your cricket and put the

hard graft in. It is never nice being dropped from a side. When you

come back, you want to make the most of the opportunities. Keep working

hard and keep striving to be better and not take anything for granted.

Yeah, I'm pleased with the way the form is at the moment, but at the

flick of a hat, form can change. So it is not to be taken for granted

and everything happens if you keep working hard and keep doing the

basics and the simple things well. Well, it is shaping up to be a

fantastic series, there is full coverage from Old Trafford on BBC

Radio 5 Live extra. You can follow the highlights on the BBC Sport

website. I will be back with more sport

later. Many of you tell us that the way

politicians behave at Prime Minister's Questions can be a turn

off to be honest, Punch and Judy politics combined with posturing and

showing off. For the people taking part, it can be one of the

nerve-wracking occasions of their career. The lead are of the

opposition forgets I have been in this job for five days. I think...

Don't ask me... There is one very big difference. I lead my party, he

follows his! This grammar school boy is not going

to take any lessons from that public schoolboy! Calm down, dear. Calm

down. Listen... ..Our hard-won credibility,

which we wouldn't have if we listened to the muttering

idiot sitting opposite me. Of course he hates choice,

of course he hates higher standards, It's a long time since he had quite

such a tantrum from the Prime Minister

at Prime Minister's Questions. And we not only saved the world -

er, saved the banks... it's about time he told

the Deputy Prime Minister Look, I know the honourable lady

is extremely frustrated about, um... Maybe I should start

all over again. Order, I say to the Children's

Minister, try to calm down If you can't, if it's beyond you,

leave the chamber. Many told me that they thought

Prime Minister's Question Time was too theatrical, that Parliament

was out of touch and too theatrical, and they wanted

things done differently. But above all, they wanted

their voice heard in Parliament. the Prime Minister's remarkable

transformation in the last few weeks It might be in my party's interest

for him to sit there. So I would say, for

heaven's sake, man, go! and already, the Prime Minister

is asking me the questions. This approach is stuck in the past,

and I want to talk about the future. Nothing is really impossible

if you put your mind to it. After all, as I once said,

I was the future once. It is still the arena that sets

the heart beating a little faster, and if it is, on occasions,

the place of low skulduggery, it is more often the place

for the pursuit of noble causes. I wish everyone, friend or foe,

well, and that is that. Some really quite moving moments and

a reminder of how being the leader of a party can really a Jew!

Prime Ministers and Leaders of the Opposition have teams

of people preparing them for the big day, writing gags and

So what will be going through Theresa May's head

As former leader of the Liberal Democrats, Lord Campbell

was often at the dispatch box and says it was the worst part

Also with us is Ayesha Hazarika whose full-time job for six years

was preparing former Labour leader Ed Miliband and former interim

leader Harriet Harman for PMQs, and Sean Worth, a former Downing St

advisor who helped prepare David Cameron for PMQs.

Why did you hate it so much as Jamaat good morning. Particularly

because if you are leader of the third party, by the time the Leader

of the Opposition has asked six questions, as he is entitled to,

there's not much left for the third party to do. It is a bear garden,

that is no doubt. Do people think it is the worst thing they've ever had

to do in politics? Yes. I remember, David Cameron myself and Tony Blair

are waiting to go out to the Senate and lay a proper macro was a pretty

nerve wracking experience but -- lay a putted was pretty nerve wracking

but nothing was as bad as prime and esters questions. -- lay a wreath.

Also, if you are the official opposition or the government, about

half the houses with you but if you are the third party, about five or

is -- five sixths of the house is against you. The atmosphere has laid

because when I went into the House of Commons first, it was twice a

week for 15 minutes. As a result, there was less opportunity for the

kind of bon mot and put-down you have just demonstrated in that clip.

The other thing was, those were the days of Mrs Badger, who was

imperious, as we saw. We were looking at cricket a moment or two

ago and she just hit every ball for six that was produced. No doubt she

commanded the House of Commons. When it came to Tony Blair, he was much

more subtle but he was a great performer. Remember when he was at

school, he was a keen amateur actor. Some of those qualities enabled him

to perform so well at PMQs. It is a performance, as well as having the

knowledge, trying to prepare the leader for questions that are going

to come up because you don't know them in advance. You can make a

decent guess, though. How do you prepare the leader a very long

process and most leaders dedicate a long time to it and have a team that

will dedicate a whole week to preparing for all of the kind of

things that are happening. It is different when you are in opposition

to when you are in government. When I was working with Ed Miliband and

Harriet Harman in opposition, even though it seems like less work

because you don't have to prepare for everything, you just asked the

question is, you get judged a lot on the questions you asked and then the

Prime Minister can come back at you on your record or something that

someone from your party has said. You need to do two things. You need

to prepare policies and statistics and an argument but then the

finishing touches, the flourishes, you need to have prepared, a good

line, anticipating an attack someone is going to make a new. What was the

best line you came up with for Ed Miliband Harriet Harman? Harriet got

photographed in her constituency wearing stab vest 48 hours before

her first PMQs against William Hague, who was known for being witty

and funny so we pre-empted he would mention something about it. We

prepared a line saying, when it comes to advice on what to wear,

we're not going to take advice from the man in the baseball cap. It

really worked! A bit like in the clip we just saw, Michael Howard

saying that the grammar schoolboy was not going to take advice from a

public schoolboy. In terms of helping David Cameron, what kind of

preparation did you do? I was not in the leader 's office doing the

theatre or the rehearsals. I was a policy guide. I was doing the more

boring bits, the areas of attack. The more important bits, really,

that affect people's lives. What do we think Labour will attack us on

what is our best response and put-down? But actually, the longer a

Prime Minister stays in post, the more they just have it in their head

anyway and the less they rely on you. It becomes more... I think

Cameron was brilliant towards the end, as you saw. At the beginning,

more dependent on some of the briefing. But it gets to the point

where you need a good gag aura put-down. That gets the chamber

going. And potentially what will be shown on the six o'clock news, ten

seconds. You are clearly aware of that as you prepare the leaders.

Were you aware that you might get 12 seconds on the six o'clock news or

was it not in your mind? I had a real go at Blair on Iraq and about

the fact we had instituted a debate in the House of Commons on Iraq and

he was not going to take part in it. I obviously ruffled him up a bit and

he came back with quite a sort of aggressive answer. I had a response

for that. I can tell you, I had not correct it. Sometimes if you have

the confidence, and I built up my confidence over a period, if you

have got the confidence to do something off-the-cuff, it can be

naturally more effective than something you have prepared for two

and a half hours. These two are both nodding. You agree? Exactly right. I

think the best lines are when you can see you can't possibly prepare

for it. I think Theresa May, actually, people see her as quite a

drive figure and she has come from the Home Office which is a very

serious brief. But if you see her at events, like awards ceremonies and

stuff, she is quite funny and witty. I think that side of her will come

out more in this role. I will ask you all about Theresa May in a

second but I want to show a couple of your... I thought we would come

to this! Here they are. better asked of the right

honourable gentleman. The Prime Minister will remember

that six years ago, the then Secretary of State for Work

and Pensions, now the Transport

Secretary, told the House accurate and complete

information about pensions. OK, we heard off-camera, noises off,

someone saying "Declare your interests". What was going on? That

was Eric Forth who was standing on the other side of the gangway to me.

I used to have what I was going to say written down in very large type.

He looked and he knew what was coming. The irony was, he is only

about a year younger than me! If anyone had an interest in pensions,

it was probably him just as much as anyone else. But that kind of

intervention, if you are not expecting it, can be absolute leader

stating. I think the other thing that is important is people said,

let sanitised Jeremy Corbyn or Puncheon Judy politics but at the

end of the day, I know PMQs is tough for anyone but it's a really

important to be dropped the democracy. Nowhere else in the world

does the Prime Minister have to be held to account in this way. I think

it is quite an important part of British culture because debating is

really a board. Yes, it gets a bit rowdy but if you want to lead the

country and the party, you have to show you can cut it in the chamber.

Yes, I don't think many would disagree with that and I know from

Mike 's period on the radio and on this programme, what people get

irritated about, what voters get irritated about is the fact that

people don't answer questions. -- my experience. It's so frustrating and

it might be a legitimate question and whoever is being asked it does

not answer it a lot of the time. Do you tell them not to answer

questions? Sometimes yes, because in a way, your boss is very exposed.

It's a bit like coming on to do the Today programme or an interview like

this, if there's a really difficult question, I'm afraid people will

give an answer which does not leave them completely vulnerable. That is

a about politics. There is an issue about this, one former minister said

at one occasion when he was in the Treasury, he was asked a question to

which the truthful answer might have had an enormous impact on the

markets and in particular on the value of the pound. His dilemma was

to answer it truthfully and have this extraordinary impact or try to

avoid answering it altogether. That is what he did. Otherwise, the

consequences of the question and the answer could have been very

disastrous. Fair enough. Thank you for joining us. And thanks for your

patience this morning. If you tell a lie on

an insurance claim - That's what the Supreme Court has

been looking at this morning and in the last half hour, they've

made a ruling that's expected to change the law relating

to fraudulent claims. The case they've been looking

at is very specific. It's about a flooded

engine room on a ship. But the court's decision will change

the way all insurance claims work. Our legal eagle Clive Coleman

is at the Supreme Court. Clive, firstly, tell us about the

specific case to do with this big ship that had flooded engine room.

Absolutely, this was a dredging ship. There was a flooded engine

room. A number of different causes for why it got flooded. An insurance

claim was put in and on behalf of the owners, a lie was told

essentially to speed up the claim. But the lie was irrelevant to the

cause of the damage. The claim itself -- and the claim itself. If

you like, the lie was dishonest but the claim was not. The significance

is this. What the Supreme Court have done this morning in a landmark

judgment is to change a principle of insurance law which had allowed

insurance companies to point to what is known as a collateral lie, so, a

lie made in support of an honest and valid claim and said because of that

one lie, they are going to reject the entire claim. What the court

have said today is that in those circumstances, the insurers can't

reject the claim. As I said, if the claim is valid and honest but the

lie is dishonest, that does not now entitled the insurers to reject the

claim. I should add that this does not affect what are genuinely

fraudulent claims, so take the example of a stolen computer, if you

put in a claim saying your computer has been stolen and it hasn't, that

is fraudulent and will be rejected. If you claim that two computers have

been stolen when only one has, that is fraudulent and will be rejected.

We are talking about valid claims where people tell a lie or fabricate

or perhaps produce a receipt in order to get the claim dealt with.

I'm joined with Nigel Turner, a solicitor and expert in insurance

law and also Kevin Trapp from money supermarket. This is a victory for

the consumer? Yes, fascinating stuff and it's not often you can say that

about insurance. It's a victory for the consumer is more valid claims

get paid. But I think it is important to state, this is not a

blank check for fraudsters. As you say, if you commit fraud, the

insurance company will try to find it and it won't pay. But if you say,

as you say, if you may be fabricate a receipt because you want to push

the claim through faster, there's a good chance the insurance Company

won't be able to throw it out and it will be paid. How have insurance

company 's been behaving? We are no -- we know they are keen to clamp

down on fraud and they always quote the figure of about ?1.3 billion at

the annual amount of fraud they uncover in the UK each year. Have

they been pouncing on these collateral lies, the full is receipt

that supports a genuine claim, to reject claims? --. Receipt. They

have formed an organisation which shares claims on fraudulent claims

made in the past anyone who has made a claim which is fraudulent, their

name will set lights flashing and they won't be offered insurance.

Fraudulent claims, there's 2000 week. The aborted thing to recognise

if it adds about ?50 per year to everyone's orange red and maybe ?20

per year to home insurance so it's bad for everyone. We know a lot of

claims are rejected, one in five household insurance claims, one in

ten travel insurance claims. Some of those, one would assume, are being

rejected because of these gilding the lily. Inevitably, people in all

innocence are doing what they can to push a valid claim through. It has

been found out by the insurance company and they have taken the

opportunity to throw the claim out. That won't happen any more, thanks

to what happened today. Nigel Turner, this is a significant change

in insurance law. Mark O'Brien it's an important case for the industry,

that's correct. It's got a far-reaching impact. Insurers, in my

experience, take a very strong view in relation to fraud. Obviously,

this case will have a bearing on that. They are going to have to be a

bit more liberal, they are going to have to look at... If they think a

receipt or something is dodgy, if it is essentially irrelevant to the

value of a valid claim, they have to ignore it. If it is a valid claim,

the ruling today said that if it is a valid claim and something has been

produced to support that, then it does not have to be relied upon. If

I'm a household and I've had a claim rejected on the basis of the fact

that I have gilding the lily, perhaps provided some documentation

that was. But my claim is valid, how do I resolved that with the insurer?

You would have to take that up with a lawyer. Like myself! Wanting work

to come your way? Instruct them to look into the background and

potentially there is the ombudsman to investigate as well. There you

have it. This is quite a significant change in insurance law. Anyone who

is putting in a claim, I suppose the first piece of advice is don't gild

the lily or make up the receipt, if you can possibly avoid it but if

that has happened, and your insurer has said they are not going to pay

out on the claim, you now have the legal ammunition to go back and say

that the Supreme Court has said if the claim is honest and valid, even

if you have told a lie, produced some. The meditation, you have --

the insurer has to pay out. -- some. Documentation.

The Labour Party will split if Jeremy Corbyn

stays on as leader - that dramatic claim

to us from Owen Smith - the man challenging him

With the news here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom.

The Labour leader mplgt ship challenger

The Labour leadership challenger Owen Smith has told this programme

that the party is "teetering on the brink of extinction".

Mr Smith said if the party continued with the trajectory it was on,

he believed that it would split and that was why he was standing.

That's why we need to heal the Labour Party.

That's why we need a change in leadership at the top.

That's why we need me to lead Labour and bring us all back together.

We've always been a coalition, Victoria, different prospectives

across the Labour movement, but when we are strong,

it is when we are united and at the moment, we are divided

and divided parties do not get elected.

Divided parties are not trusted by the British public

and that is why Jeremy needs to move aside and given that he has refused

Theresa May will take part in her first session of Prime Minister's

After her appearance in the Commons at noon.

Mrs May will then travel to Berlin for talks with the German

The two leaders will discuss the time frame for the UK's

withdrawal from the European Union and future trade relations.

Tomorrow, Mrs May will travel to Paris for talks

Downing Street says the UK will relinquish its upcoming

six-month presidency of the European Council

The presidency of the council rotates among the EU member states.

Theresa May confirmed the decision during a conversation

with the council president Donald Tusk.

Mr Tusk told the Prime Minister he will help make the UK's exit

from the EU to happen "as smoothly as possible".

A soldier has died while on a training exercise yesterday

The Ministry of Defence said the soldier was from

Earlier this year, the MOD was censured over the deaths

of three Army reservists in the Brecon Beacons,

Unemployment fell to its lowest level for eight years,

according to the latest figures for the second quarter of 2016.

There were 1.65 million people out of work and seeking a job

in the period between March and May this year - that's 54,000 fewer

It's the lowest figure since 2008 and the lowest jobless percentage

Join me for BBC Newsroom Live at 11 o'clock.

We asked you to send in your pictures of how your animals are

staying cool in the hot weather. I'm never going to do this againment

we've got Deborah's dog, Marly again. Let's try Marly first. Have

we got Marly? Marly is a dude. Look at that. Shades and a hat. Deane's

two cats, nice and in the shadement Andrew's dog, Bruno. Definitely

cool. You see, that's what black dogs need to do, find a river, a

stream anything like that. Irene's dogs Benson and Bridie, I think

Irene should not be putting those caps on you! This is from Joe G, can

you see this? This is Zilly enjoying an ice cream. Can you see that?

Can you give dogs ice cream? You can now! Thank you very much for those.

Keep them coming in. I'm going to bring you this news if I may. Jeremy

Corbyn has won his bid to personally fight a legal action aimed at

overturning the Labour Party's decision to guarantee him a place on

the leadership ballot. Goodness me! There are more twists and turns in

the Labour leadership contest. Jeremy Corbyn won his bid to fight a

legal action aimed at overturning the Labour Party's decision to

guarantee him a place on the leadership ballot. So he has got a

legal battle going on and he has got a leadership contest going on.

The International Olympic Committee is exploring its "legal options"

before deciding whether to ban the entire Russia team

Track and field athletes are already suspended but confirmation

of state-endorsed doping means the IOC may impose

Mark Cavendish has pulled out of the Tour de France

and switched his focus to the Olympics.

Rio will be his third Games and he's never won a medal.

Tiger Woods won't be playing in next week's US PGA Championship,

meaning he'll miss all four Majors in a year for the first

Woods has plummeted to number 628 in the world.

Steve Bruce says he's flattered to be considered

The Hull City boss had "informal discussions" with the FA.

He says he put his case across and hoped it

And we will have more sport on BBC News throughout the day.

As summer holidays get underway - there are fears that a new wave

of girls from the UK will be taken abroad by their parents to undergo

There are around 137,000 women and girls affected by FGM

living in Britain - with the highest prevalence in

And on top of that, it's estimated that 60,000 women and girls

Our Global Health correspondent Tulip Mazumdar has been looking

at what's being done here and abroad to combat it.

Jane was later told she was now a woman and she had to marry a man in

his 60s. They do that act. So you sit if you are not a coward girl. If

you are not a coward? You just sit there for everyone to see you and

after that act you will be given a prize. A prize? What was the prize,

what did you get? A bull. A bull? Yeah. How did you feel afterwards?

It was so difficult. You feel like you are going to faint, you want to

cry, even running out of that home. Let's talk more about this

with Hibo Wardere, the only FGM advisor employed by a local council

in the UK. She is also the author of Cut:

One Woman's Fight Against FGM in Britain Today which talks

about her experience of FGM when she Also with us Alima Dimonekene

who campaigns against FGM founder of Project Ace which supports women

and girls affected by FGM. She has also advised

the government on FGM issues. Why is FGM still so common? It's a

cultural practise that has been in our generation for thousands of

years especially when I speak from my side of the community. It has

been there for more than 3,000 years. So it is very much set on

heart and minds of our people. Right. In the last year, how many

cases do you think you've dealt with in your job? Since I have been in my

role in Waltham Forest I think we have seen more than 60 cases where

mothers were given emotional and psychological support. Some were

given advice on how not to commit this crime. They were given all

kinds of information that's necessary for them to have in hand

and we have seen many women who struggle with language and they

didn't even understand this was illegal and it is hard for them to

understand this is classed as child abuse which we were telling them it

is classed as child abuse, in this country, it is classed as child

abuse and it is affecting your health. It does affect your health.

Your emotional well-being and your physical side, everything is

affected by it. It is all about educating them and making them

understand this can't be happening in the UK. Summer holidays, is a key

time for obvious reasons, a long period of time when children are off

school, that's when parents can take their children away for longer

periods. It is important to point out that, yes, it is illegal in the

k, it is illegal to take your child abroad for it? It is illegal to take

your child away from the United Kingdom and also, there are many

countries outside of the United Kingdom, a lot of countries in

Africa, who have existing laws and in the US, Canada, all these

countries have laws against FGM. But I think often communities that

practise FGM don't know this information. So I think the campaign

that the Government has got right now including the work of the

police, social workers, sending the message out into communities, and

also practitioners taking the lead in bringing the right information to

families. Although, there are no convictions here in the UK? It is

what it is, but I think we have komt a long way and a lot of good work

has gone into preventing FGM, it is a matter of time. As campaigners we

said you will not have a child going into a police station to report

their parent as an abuser. In that case, sorry to interrupt. How do you

let a girl of primary school age know that FGM is wrong, it should

not be happening to her, it is against the law of this country?

When I go to the schools, in secondary school, we are very blunt.

We are very out there telling them what FGM, but when you go to primary

school, this is young kids, the language has to change, we can't say

like cut. We make them body aware. For me primary school is teaching

them how to be body conscious. So what do you say? Tell me some of the

phrases? Some of the things that I say to them, this is your body. Do

you believe that anybody should do anything to do it? They are very

vocal. Even at six years old, do you believe anybody should be touching

any part of your body? They will say no, unless I say yes. I tell them

sometimes if you go to the toilet, would you like to be helped and they

say yes, I would like to be helped. I let them understand what kind of

help they need. Should anything be happening to your body? Maybe if I'm

sick the doctor is allowed to do something to my body. But what about

the parents? We slowly build up to coming to the parents and we say

what can your parents do? What do you think it is wrong of your parent

to do? Some are vocal and saying I don't like my parent helping me to

go to the toilet and doing my parents doing this and that. It is

about making them own their own body and say this is your body and I

think that's not something that should be happening to them and they

understand that. How important are men in this conversation? Very

important. In a lot of communities where this practise exists, it is

built on a system of misogyny and it is getting men to get engaged in

talking about what their wives, their daughters and their mothers

even sometimes express because they see sometimes women in pain during

childbirth or having men tral pain for example so it is important and

the powers shift that men bring to the conversation also help and so we

have seen areas that in countries like Kenya, Tanzania, where men have

been vocal, you would see a drop in the prevalence of FGM because again,

it is often said that this practise is done for men, but women are

saying it is not in my name or I don't condone this practise, we

often see the practise diminishing and it does in such a quick way

which is why from us as a community level, and activists and campaigners

are calling for the fathers, brothers, uncles, those who are in

leading positions in the community to speak up about domestic violence.

FGM falls within that category. It is violence against women and girls

and we are happy that the Government's strategy is helping

practitioners around the country to reinforce that message and I think

is making sure that we all work collectively in addressing the

issue. You said everyone knows the damage

to a woman, to a girl, in terms of their physical health and their

emotional health. I'm not sure everybody does and I wonder if you

could tell people in frank terms, in candid terms what it can do to

somebody? FGM comes in many different forms. One thing we have

in common is first of all you have constant infections in your life.

The whole again tale is gone which meant even after they have removed

that, they have stitched you up and left you with a tiny hole. When you

go to the toilet, your wee-wee is coming out of drop lets, you

sometimes develop cysts, you have flashbacks, every time you are

pregnant you are experience trauma, your men tral is a problem, they can

cause pelvic problems which can lead to infertility. Emotional problems

are there. Always you have betrayal issues with you. There is a lot of

horrific things that come with this procedure that happens in half an

hour, mainly one hour, but have a catastrophic impact on your life for

life and psychologically you have flashbacks, when you're having a

baby, you have problems of bleeding or tears. There is a lot, a lot

comes with FGM. Yeah. Thank you both very much for coming

on the programme. Thank you very much for your patience today, I

really appreciate it. The Labour Party will split if

Jeremy Corbyn stays on as its leader. That dramatic claim comes

from the man who wants to be its leader, MP Owen Smith.

If we carry on in the trajectory we have been doing, it will split.

I went to see Jeremy on three occasions and said,

"You've got to realise that this party is teetering

That is why we need to heal the Labour Party, that is why

we need to change the leadership at the top.

It is why we need me to lead Labour and to bring us all back together.

So how inevitable is a split? Let's talk to three Labour MPs, all of

whom back Owen Smith but they have different ideas over whether their

party will split or not. With me is Nick Thomas-Symonds,

MP for Torfaen, Catherine McKinnell, Newcastle North MP,

and Alison McGovern, Thank you for joining us. Firstly,

is Owen Smith right? He blames it on Jeremy Corbyn and if Jeremy Corbyn

does not stand down, the party will split. I think there is an enormous

risk of that happening. So Owen Smith could stand down and then the